Cheap 2-Stroke Oil Better? Let's find out! Amsoil vs SuperTech 2-Cycle Oil.
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2020
- Is low cost SuperTech 2 stroke oil better than Amsoil Synthetic Dominator Racing 2-stroke oil? 2-cycle oil performance tested using two brand new 2-stroke generators. Additional testing includes engine carbon buildup, oil flash point, and corrosion resistance. Oil also sent to an independent oil testing lab for analysis.
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I could use your help in the future. If you'd like to help me decide on which products to test, please consider subscribing to the channel. I occasionally ask viewers to vote on which products to test and RUclips only informs those subscribed to the channel that there's an opportunity to vote. ruclips.net/channel/UC2rzsm1Qi6N1X-wuOg_p0Ng You'll also need to select the "bell" to get the notification. Thank you very much and look forward to many more product test reviews. Todd
Can you try the test on dirtbikes?
Do a comparison between
Honda hp2, Yamalube, Castor 927, and klotz benol 2 stroke oils
Now compare to Amsoil Saber two stoke oil. A lot less $ and maybe even better ??
I sure would like to see tribodyn 2 stroke oil vs the rest along with pennzoil 2 cycle premium plus that be great
I would like to see internal cylinder photographs of say an echo 2 stroke compared to any chinese built 2 stroke. I am shopping for a new weedeater or possibly a multi tool. I would like to know what to expect for my money
Respect to the amount of work he puts into making these videos.
Thank you very much! This one definitely took a lot of effort.
The best customer parts shop ever had. I can imagine the store clerk like ''Hey look, it's the headgaskets guy, right on the clock. I bet he gets at least five this time''
It realy is amazing.
@@ProjectFarm could you test already premixed 2 stroke fuel to see which brand is best? ( i.e Husqvarna vs stihl vs VP)
He deserves every subscriber and more
Small engines tremble when this man walks into the store.
lol Thanks for watching.
@@ProjectFarm Will you ever do a Motul 800 off road/Stihl HP ultra? They seem to be considered the best of the high end 2 stroke oils. It would be interesting to see how they compared to these other oils. They have a lot of detergency and their make-up is different with higher flashpoint and full esters.
I literally burst out laughing hard after reading that (trembling engines) LOL
They start their life testing things like oil and spark plugs, and eventually they get things like bananas in place of motor oil
@@em4703 stihl hp is biodegradable junk. It lubricates fine but it burns so dirty
This man is my favorite RUclipsr. Mainly because he doesn’t do it for views, fame or subscribers like many others do. He does this to give millions of us information on what the best products are or solutions to a problem are and to show us what not to buy. He goes above and beyond to bring us informing content. Keep up the great work man, you are a true inspiration to us! :)
Thanks and you are welcome!
Amsoil to the left of me, Super Tech to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you...
Another Project Farm classic! 👍 Thanks, brother
You are welcome!
Good 1
Can we all just come here and appreciate how much this man spends just for us. He uses new gloves when working with agents, new seals and gaskets when working with anything that could alter the end result, new spark plugs and different spark plugs and oils and literally everything and even more to buy the more expensive products. The most dedicated RUclipsd by far. The most realistic and truthful, one man that I can come to when I need to see which products work and which don’t. Huge thanks from me 🙏🙏🙌🙌
Thanks so much!
Amen when I need true raw answers this is the channel to go to! My whole family loves the channel! Awesome stuff!
Completely agree
Everything I want to see done to an engine he's done including running an engine on WD-40
so you think he does this for charity?
I can picture Todd just walking into the parts store and the person at the counter saying, "The usual?" He nods, "Here's your 40 sparkplugs and head gaskets sir"
renyn21 the factory have to run late nights to keep up with the amount of head gaskets is demanded
And then proceeds to test each one before leaving the store.
lol Thanks for watching.
Bahahaha bro
Project Farm : where head gaskets and spark plugs go to die
It would be nice to see an update of this with more common 2 cycle oils, like the tsc, Oregon, stihl, and similar brands.
Thanks for the suggestion.
That’s what I want to know.
@@ProjectFarm how about ashless vs. Low ash oils. Can an ashless oil be run in a chainsaw, without damage? Lets findout.... Some 2 cycle oils are tc-w3 "multi purpose"⁵
I always use shihl oil and never blow any saws
You can’t buy Amsoil anywhere around here!
I’m not sure if anyone suggested testing the universal two-stroke oil against a marine two-stroke oil. I’d like to see that on the lubricity tester. You do great work I really enjoy it and recommended all my friends :)
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Ya. I would love to see this.
In theory the difference between marine and land 2t oil is heat.
The challenge in a watercooled outboards is the oil needs to burn at the lower temperature and the challenge in air cooled bike is the oil needs to lubricate at high temperatures
Snowmobile oil too!
I've always wondered that too about Maine two stroke oil. I've always thought that they would breakdown in water easier.
Most youtubers: “let’s build a car!!!” One week later “we have a car” Project Farm: “Lets test paint” ten years later “ so here is how the paint has faired and the weather report on average of the conditions in a year by year lineup. If that is not enough I will add spectacular commentary on top!!!” So much dedication. I applaud you.
Thanks for watching.
project farm has an exceptional video quality. Thx for the afford.
i only wondered why there was no 3m cubitron @grinding disc/flapdisc test.
I highly recommend another bit test concerning hex bits wearing out bolt heads @Nm (Wera product very best;)
@@ProjectFarm a slight video idea. is more oil better? or is less oil better? can an engine be destroyed from adding too much oil?
Depends what your running it in and what your looking for. Slightly less oil in a motor especially one with a wet clutch can give you an ever so slight advantage due to less drag from the oil and less weight on the internal parts that are spinning around in there. This obviously has its disadvantages such as how fast the oil breaks down and becoming diluted faster from the fuel. Going extreme on the other side with too much oil can cause it to blow by into the cylinder or worse become hydro-locked or worse. i personally like to run mine right at the full mark because all engines burn/leak oil to some degree and i want to plan for it.
Exactly lol. This man is getting it done
My favorite part is when he reads a claim and says "We're gonn test that".
That should be on a t-shirt
Great suggestion!
I am sorry, where’s the potion?
@@ProjectFarm yeah you should sell some shirts. like a picture a beat to shit lawn mower in the middle, on the top it says project farm and on the bottom "we're gonna test that"
I want one
I am glad you work as hard as you do to make these videos. I usually check your channel before buying stuff to see if you have tested it first. Thanks ma.
I'm a big fan of this guy for the big effort and unbiased reviews of everything he does just to give us which one is better and cost effective products. I give all my respect and thanks for this awesome reviews.
Thanks so much!
This man is single-handedly keeping the head gasket factory in business.
lol Thanks for watching.
I think he is the reason why are they so cheap
(For small cc engines)
He is haha
Which sawzall blade is the best value for the money?
@@MidwestJunkyardRacing he did that one.
Good god, he depleted the supply of used lawnmowers in his tri-state area and had to resort to using old pressure washers.
This man is a monster.
Geno,
maybe, though he gets us lots of information, useful information.
I refuse to believe that the supply of flathead briggs motors will run out
@@isaakwelch3451 There's a supply of them alright. Just dig around in the graveyard behind his workshop that stretches beyond the horizon and I'm sure you could cobble a few together.
tri-state area? doctor dofensmerts is that you?
I love coming across your videos. Even when I'm not looking for what your video is about. I still find myself watching it right then and there. As usual. Great testing.
Thanks!
Wow I just found this page and I have to say it’s amazing the amount of work into these projects are mind blowing good job man !
Thanks!
If you would of been one of my high school teachers I would of chosen a better path in life.
Awesome information and video as always.
Wow, thank you!
would have
Same
Just seeing the quick shot of the SuperTech bearing on the lubricity tester, I was fulling expecting to hear "Wow, that's a lot of damage!"
lol. Nice!
lotta damage as phil swift would say
Excellent test procedures !
Great evaluation process, with what appears to be accurate, and telling results !
I am an Amsoil dealer, and often asked if the less expensive 2 stroke oils are just as good !
I will absolutely be using this test video in the future !
And will absolutely be referring a number of my skeptical customers your video !
You have given decisive proof of what I have been saying for a number of years !
Thank you again for your careful testing procedures, it gives legitimacy to your test results, and in many cases, justify spending the extra money for a Superior product !
And, of course, in some cases, show the less expensive product might actually be the better value !
Your videos are definitely appreciated !
Thanks again !
Thanks and you are welcome!
Love your channel. You're fast yet clear and understandable speech is appreciated. Your testing is very thorough, and you get right to work without a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Thank you sir.
Not easy to speak that fast and clearly for our short attention span! Iol
Seriously one of the best channels on RUclips and no sponsors! A channel truly unlike any other
Thank you very much!
Project farm doesn’t even beg us to subscribe
Edit: thanks for all the likes
Thanks for watching.
He never will, same with him never becoming a sponsor. PF is credible because he us
Is not a sell out. This mans approach at videos, and how many followers he has is proof you don't need to be a sellout to be successful here, you just need to be honest, and genuine. Thank you PF!
Subs willingly without any begging needed 👍👍👍
He doesn't need to. No one is doing what he's doing. And if there are, no one is doing it better. And because he doesn't have some stupid intro with techno music or 2 minutes spent telling us to support him and subscribe to every single thing, he is ahead of all the competition that will not do what he does. Plus he likes doing things that the commenters suggest that keeps people engaged. So, I don't want to be a nut swinger here, but this dude is smart. Not only technically but psychologically.
PF sells himself with great quality. PF and one other channel is all I watch now because everyone else is sell outs and 2 minute wasted intro time. Get to the meat and potatoes. Thanks PF
Thanks for the unbiased testing.
Personally, I use the Super Tech as an additive for our ‘86 6.9 IDI Diesel engine.
1 once per gallon of diesel to lubricate the inject pump.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
I use atf at the same ratio in my 02 power stroke to clean injectors.
I use it in all my gasoline vehicles . Been doing it for years. Run great you can’t feel the vehicles at idle.
Diesel already lubricates as is, no need for additional oil
@@eugenecrabs3954 Highly debatable topic but, the older engines like my 1986 were designed for the older fuel composition.
They have reduced the sulfur in which, another highly debatable topic, lubricates the inject pumps on these older pumps. New engines have different pump design and delivery systems.
People have told me their 80’s pumps going out when they made the diesel fuel with less sulfur.
I don’t drive this daily and I’m not going to think by adding a little oil to my fuel is going to melt the ice caps.
And just because you’ve provided no proof of your statement, it’s not going to make me stop.
Love these! You do an excellent job of breaking things down to simplicity.thorough and informative.
Thanks!
I'd love to hear the story about how you decided to make a real go at RUclips
Thanks for the suggestion.
agreed!
@@ProjectFarm please make a video sorta about your personal attraction and steps with RUclips!
A Project farm backstory would be a good episode.
Agreed!
Here is a test idea: Does running diesel engines on vegetable oil as it's fuel for a extended period of time damage the engine? Amazing channel, you saved me a bunch of money
It will ruin the engine quickly, especially the fuel pump and injectors
The original diesal motor was made to run on vegetable oil and not fuel oil. It was the oil industry that forced that
@@darmah1959 only if it s a new engine a 1950s should run better on it but still be ruined after a while
@@darmah1959 not if it's set up for up. Just like gas can be converted to propane, diesal can run on new or used vegetable oil. One just has to be filtered and such. Mr diesal never intended his engine to run on petroleum and waste oil
@@darmah1959 how is it going to ruin anything? it has more than enough lubricity, more than real diesel. I don't see a problem unless you have some electronic crap that's going to get confused
Great videos, you have a scientific approach when performing these tests, which I appreciate.
Here is what I've found, in my experience:
I've mixed my own 2 stroke gas for years, used many different types and mixed them precisely.
Trimmers and chainsaws always gave off a fair amount of smoke with any brand, so I would lean out the oil/gas ratio, minutely,, incrementally...didn't make much difference.
Weed trimmer lasts me 3 yrs tops, hard to start, run etc.
Had to replace lines on the saw, ethanol rotted the lines..
After that, I started using pre-mixed ethanol free, it's expensive but the results were: smoke was reduced 80-90 percent.
Starting improved dramatically
and it just ran so much better, seemed as if it had a noticeable increase in power.
Plus, no more ethanol to rot those hard to fish thru fuel lines.
The saw, after 6 years will fire on 1st pull, 2nd or 3rd if she's cold, like winter cold...I'm sticking with pre-mix. .
Again, no criticism aimed at anyone, just relaying my experience with pre mix..
Thanks for all the great videos!
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Newly returned after a couple of years it is evident the quality of testing & professionalism are much improved. It doesn't go unnoticed the time effort given to this task. 👌 you deserve respect for your efforts kind regards from Australia.
Welcome back! Thanks!
Glad to see I haven’t been wasting my money on AMSOil dominator in my KTM for the past 10 years
Glad to hear too! Thanks for watching.
I use Amsoil Saber on my KTM 250. Will never use anything else.
Bad Santa not at all. The video shows that it runs the engine at lower temperature, protects better against corrosion and does better at lubricating. So it's not a waste of money. A bit of carbon is the trade off.
@Bad Santa it's not just marketing hey, it really actually has been tested by third party ASTM methods as well.
AMSOIL really does their homework to make the best oils they can. They use the best components which are often costlier, to formulate their oils to preform as best as possible, hence they cost more to buy. Kinda comes down to the old adage, you get what you pay for... Ya know
TailGator 2 stroke generators:
"Ahhh , relaxing in my box, looking forward to a a nice easy life sitting at the back of someone's garage - Life's good!"
***Order fulfilled - delivery address - Project Farm****
...O.O
lol Thanks for watching.
Since Stihl highly promotes their HP Ultra 2-stroke oil, but I’ve found VP Racing 2-stroke oil to be better performing… I would like to see them put to the test. Throw the widely loved Red Armor into the mix and you’d have a Battle Royal!
Keep up the great work. Nobody makes better comparison videos! 👍🏼
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the video idea.
Stihl doesn't make the oil it's Castrol 2stroke. Says right on the Stihl bottle
Think Phillips makes the red armor. So it really comes down to the additives in it.
Dear Project Farm would you please test the other types of Two-Stroke oils out there and talk about the effect that an FD rated oil would have vs FB rated oil and so on. Oils like red armor, husky, stihl, castrol and so on. Keep up the great work you are doing an amazing job.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Yes! Would love to see Red Armour, Husky XP +, Stihl Ultra (boooooo!), Amsoil Saber compete with Schaeffer 7000 (TCW3 boat oil) in a side by side comparison at 40:1 and 50:1 in chain saws, blowers, string trimmers etc. Lots of varying opinions on 2 stroke oil. They need to be put to the test and see who rates as very impressive!
Agreed. Also like to see Echo added to the list
I'd like to add klotz also to the list please
@@ProjectFarm also add echo red armor to your tests, it has worked very well for me
Yessss finally a 2 stroke oil video for us 2 stroke nerds!
More to come!
@@ProjectFarm awesome! Looking forward to them!
Do sthil 2 stroke oil and others vs the ams oil 2 stroke oil.
So you stroke it? Lol jk
@@ProjectFarm all sthill vs all Husqvarna 2 cycle
Never once have I seen a boring or bad project farm movie ! Love them
Thanks so much!
More entertaining than most real movies these days.
Love these videos! This'll certainly help me keep my sled running a little longer!
Great video!! I switched to amsoil years ago because there was way less smoke using my chainsaw along with non ethanol gas. Thanks for your time!!
The spark plug looked really dirty though. Do you change the spark plugs frecvently or you found another solution for this issue?
Omg you did it! The video I suggested!!!
Many of us recommended this haha fellow 2 stroke nerd here
Thank you all for recommending this one and sorry it took so long
@@averagecarguy420 oh yeah I guess it wasn't only me xD
Me too! Yes, finally!
@@ProjectFarm bro the wait for your videos are almost always worth it
Nothing like having your "new" generator engine having a scored cylinder right out of the box!
Thanks for watching.
Look at that crap porting on the cylinders and scoring
The difference is that he checks. Every other consumer just never checks...
China!
They run them for a few minutes for QC
Thank you. You are successful b/c you are completely unbiased. And you don't sell yourself out to advertisers like many others here in RUclips. Keep it up! I'll keep watching.
You are welcome!
I love watching your videos. I use your comparisons to make every purchase I make that i don't know ahead of time. On that note, it's strange to see that you haven't compared all the major 2 cycle oil brands. Red armor, stihl, echo power blend, Husqvarna, sta-bil, etc. ? Thank you for the paint brand comparison video I used most recently. 👍🖖
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
I would like to see a 2-stroke marine oil shootout. Quicksilver, yamalube, walmart brand, and highend brands
Great recommendation!
Yamaha lube..never ever use cheap oil in any outboard or dirt bike etc or $$$$$$
I would love to see that also! Water cooled engines run a little differently. Also, foot/lower unit oil probably gets the harshest use since folks dont change it often. I wonder how some of those preform.
KLOTZ.
The smell alone.
Smells like racing.
@@stinkbait9853 we are talking about oil you mix with gas. The lower unit uses extremely thick oil that is stanky.
U got to give him some love he legit bought 2 engines just for a vid lol.
Thanks for watching!
his income from this video will pay for those many times over. Obviously.
@@Mach141 The point is he doesn't cheap out. Don't steal the thunder unless you can do better.
speding that youtube money 🔥🔥🔥
"If for any reason you are not satisfied with an item purchased from Harbor Freight Tools, you may return the product within 90 days for a full refund or replacement, whichever you prefer."
Sunday morning , watching Project Farm !!! Best time to watch the video s !!!!
Great video as always.. Id love to see a wider range of 2 stroke oils tested.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
it amazes me the distance you go to do these tests. one of the reasons I actually use them to pick stuff I use.
Thank you very much!
I would like to see paint quality. Such as UV degradation, how well it adheres, etc. also the best way to prep rusty/non rusty metals for painting.
By the way, if you ever need something UV tested, hit me up. West Texas. Very hot and lots of uv. We garden under 50% shade cloth
UVC lights will get the best way to test it
metal paint subjected to heavy UV plus salt water plus occasonaly freezing ice in the cracks: That would be good test
Whenever i need to get a lube for a certain application im thankful you usually have a video on the subject.
Thanks for sharing.
Excellent video! Thanks for taking the time!
Thanks and you are welcome!
G'day,
Yay Team !
I had a few of those Gennys, the first one died early (after a month) and I returned it under Warranty, the second one I logged 4,200 Hours on, and the 3rd one was another dud like the first.
The Design has a curious quirk, in that because Engine Speed is governed at 3,000 RPM for the 50 Cycle AC (here in Oz), that means the Cooling-Fan is ALWAYS delivering enough Airflow to provide sufficient Cooling Effect when the Unit is at Maximum Continuous Output (on a hot day)..., because such conditions must be catered for way, back at the Design-stage.
However, this provision for hot-day full-power Cooling..., means that under ANY other conditions at all..., the Fan succeeds in profoundly Overcooling the Machine (!).
The Exhaust Cannister and Engine-Pipe, in particular, suffer from this ; because the Unburned Oil in the Red-Hot Exhaust Gas condenses into Droplets on the inside of the relatively Cool Metal - and then the passing Red Hot Gas progressively carbonises the resulting Droplets of condensed unburned Oil...
And, therefore, in the Operator's Manual it clearly suggests that complete disassembly and cleaning of the Exhaust System should be performed after every 100 Hours of operation..., using a 50:1 Fuel/Oil mix.
I found that in my case, about every 150 to 180 Hours was a goodly interval, when using Penrite TSR-2...; for a very messy couple of hours, involving soaking the disassembled bits in Petrol, flushing, & poking around their insides with a ground-down Hacksaw-Blade and length of Fencewire - to break up interior encrustations.
My guess is that most of these Generators provide about 5 hours of Power per day for 30 days of Vacations or Holidays - which takes longer than their 1-Year Warranty to achieve..., and then when they become hard to start and won't run a 300 Watt Hand-Drill, that's when they're,
"declared to be dead"
and replaced.
Because almost nobody read the Manual to the end, and after a year they can't find it for consultation.
Thus, somewhere the Factory is kept in busyness, churning them out, each for a brief little career of making Electrickitiez, before going straight on into Landfill.
Also, their Exhaust will literally drip with Oildrops, and if you title-search my Videos for,
"Refining Used 2-Stroke Oil...!"
You should pull up some videos of how I cobbled up a Rig which permitted me to corner the Global Supply of Used 2-Stroke Oil...(!).
I used the stuff for "Curiosity" Xmas Presents, in tiny little Bottles, for Petrolheaded friends within the Ultralight Hairygoplane fraternity.
If offered one of those not-functioning Gennys for free, accept it, clean out the Exhaust ; and it will then probably be quite reliable..., but if it still won't go then it's probably not worth fighting with.
Such is Life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
I'd like to see Marine 2-stroke engine oils go to this test.
Me as well, I have been running quicksilver gallons from Wally world on my dirt bike for years and would love to know if it is just as good or better than overpriced cycle shops oil like golden spectro, maxima, amsoil, etc. Etc.
Thanks for the video idea.
Wow what an instant response with the likes and comments. I personally was wanting to know what Marine 2 smoke oil would help reduce the carbon buildup in my 20 year old outboard.
Marine oil burns hotter and shouldn’t be used in chainsaws etc.
Me to. I want to see amazon basic 2 stroke and a super expensive 2 stroke oil go head to head that are are marine. I have two jet skis that at oil injected and want to know what the difference is like
Always outstanding testing. Very thorough!
Good Demo. I recently filled 2 year Husqvarna 129 weed cutter hypoid gearbox with straight 2 stroke engine oil because it was noisy, now it is quiet!
I had a Husqvarna 132 RJ for about 15 years, no problems with oil filled gearbox. Manufacturer fills with grease
Thanks for sharing.
FINALLY I can get some real info instead of their claims for my tools
Thank you!!
I ran Amsoil in my 1954 Ford flathead V-8. Not the two-stroke version, of course, but the car sure had a lot of get up and go despite being super heavy by today's standards. I rebuilt the engine myself in 1979. Sold the car in 1985 due to having to be assigned to Japan by the USAF.
@@ProjectFarm why not compare super tech synthetic to the amsoil?
Here’s a link to Amsoil’s small engine 2 stroke oil! www.amsoil.com/p/saber-professional-synthetic-2-stroke-oil-atp/?code=ATPQT-EA?zo=5876374
I’d like to see a gasoline emissions comparison between “California gas” and non-CA gas. As a Californian, we pay almost 40% more money for gasoline compared to other states because of it’s lower emissions ratings. Is the gas actually cleaner? Does it reduce engine performance?
This sounds like an awesome idea and I don't even live in Commiefornia. ...I think he's a bit far away though.
Most northern states have a summer formula and winter formula gas, where the winter has more off-gassing than the summer formula since the cooler temperatures will reduce that. I also heard somewhere that California's winter mix is closer to a normal state's summer mix.
Having visited California I literally noticed that the air smells and feels immensely cleaner than most other places. As a car-enthusiast all their regulations would certainly be annoying (and expensive), but as an asthmatic I feel like overall it's worth it. I want to go back.
@@fisqual The air smells like that because the entire state is constantly swept with an ocean wind. On the west side of the sierra's the ocean fog helps clean the air. But, spend any amount of time between San Fransisco and Los Angeles and you will smell the smog in the air (not always, but you will). The "cleaner" fuel doesn't help. Most of their environmental programs don't have a full scientific analysis. Some hippies just think it sounds cool and since the hippies are now old enough to be the state reps the laws pass. A sincere look into their water and energy management plans would reveal what I'm talking about. They aren't interested in the better ways, just more control and more money, and if they can get a PR person to make it sound like they love the earth while collecting those two things, they'll do it.
Thanks for the video idea.
@@ProjectFarm This would be a great video idea PF! As a Californiain, I would like to know as well, thanks for all the great content!
40% more compared to other states... means still 50% cheaper than a liter/gallon fuel in a west European country 🤣
You are so awesome! At last I have found a man who can do competent evaluations for the products I have been trying
Holy ! You are so efficient. You are so good at this, I have been doing it for a while now and I have been trying to find a quality point of view. Dude! Thank you for the information! You ROCK!!!
Thanks!
Excellent video and thanks for taking the time to run such thorough tests. I was surprised at the deposits left by Amsoil and then I remembered reading somewhere that the Amsoil Dominator 2 stroke oil was made for high temp, all out racing conditions. The article stated it was best not to use Amsoil Dominator for easy going trail use (ATV application) and recommended using one of their other 2 stoke oils. It would be interesting to see if the Amsoil Interceptor 2 stroke oil would leave less deposits. Looks like it's worth spending the extra money for Amsoil.
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
I used to run 1:5 scale RC cars with 30cc 2stroke engines. I always preferred Amsoil Saber oil. I ran it 1:100 with camp fuel vs gasoline. Never had any carbon build-up anywhere. Cant say if that was because of the camp fuel vs gasoline or Saber vs whatever.
Someone above mentioned not finding fault in supertech as a logger and that's probably true enough. In every test I have ever seen, Amsoil was proven out the best and here I dont think is any exception. The best isn't always necessary though and good enough is good enough. I think we forget that too often. We ran our RC engines up to the edge of destruction so you appreciate that little extra margin that the "best" provides. Stihl makes excellent chainsaws and have earned their great reputation. They are designed to last and except for those lumberjack competitions, chainsaws are dialed way back from the edge where good enough is good enough and the best isn't worth the extra money.
I'd love to see this test again with Dominator vs Interceptor vs Saber :) Maybe even throw in a couple of the shelf branded synthetics. OHHH and Coleman fuel vs Gasoline :)
I agree with some of the other comments, you put an amazing amount of time into your test, very much appreciated!
Thank you!
I worked at a motorcycle shop years ago, back when two-stroke engines were popular. We had different results with different brands of two-stroke oil. A good rule to live by: If it works for you, stick with it. I had a two stroke, two cylinder motorcycle which I rode hard, even touring half the United States. If a motorcycle manufacturer recommends a certain two stroke oil, stick with it. If you have oil injection, don't let the oil tank go dry. Currently I ride a four stroke four cylinder. Good test, Todd.
Thanks for sharing.
Love me a 2-stroke dirt bike. That’s some good times there.
I've been running amsoil dominator 2 stroke oil in my 1972 Suzuki GT750J 3 cylinder 2 stroke street bike which I owned since 2006...after a total engine rebuild in 2013, including new crank seals..Only smokes when it's cold ..I think it has a bad check valve in one of the banjo injector lines, but otherwise holding up great so far......for the Sunday rides...
Great video. I run AMSOIL and always appreciate observing independent testing. And I have to say you are quite a bit more trustworthy than a lot of "testing"
Thanks!
If you are using it on small engine two strokes I would look at the Amsoil Saber instead of the Dominator. It will run even cleaner in that application.
That Super Tech spark plug looks much cleaner to me. I’ve been using it in my Husky chain saw and weed trimmer (price between the two are irrelevant, maybe 2 qts/year) for years on the original spark plug and I don’t even have to clean the plug. Keep up the great comps.!
Thanks, will do!
Well, I live in rusia, every oil here is expensive and bad :(
Also, your videos are more interesting than most TV shows and movies.
Thank you!
Russia < America , come live with us bro
There is nothing good on TV today. The only thing i will watch is "American Pickers" and motorsports(not Nascar) and hockey.
Come to Canada it’s cold and beautiful like Russia !
@@bobchipeska6488 shut up
THE BEST CONSUMER PRODUCT REVIEWS EVER!! Love this channel! Thanks for these great videos
Glad you like them!
You are doing fantastic testing. Thank you so much for all your efforts.
Thank you!
You're a freaking superhero, thanks again for such a clear, fair comparison! I was looking to see if I could get a less-smelly snow blower by using better oil and the answer is clearly yes from these tests! Thanks!
You are welcome!
I can always expect nothing less than a quality video from Project Farm
Thank you very much! I definitely do my best to deliver!
Be great to have a comparison with marine 2 stroke oils. The range of brands. Amazing video! Great work!
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Id like to see that as well
You just watched it
I would like to see chainsaw oil comparison, like Stihl and Jonsereds oil, and other saws.
@Keith Rowe no, no we didn't. Marine oils burn at lower temps since water-coolee motors dont run as hot as air-cooled
One of the best channels on RUclips, by far. Been watching for years 👍
Thanks so much!
Belray
Multiple familes and businesses have been helped greatly by what you do! Your videos have also helped our family to make it through some very tough times. Some of the girls are not as happy to see the videos as the boys lol. We have 8 children with 9th on the way.
Wondering if you could do a more diverse 2 stroke oil test. Specifically for chainsaws, as there is as always a lot of difference of opinion. Your motor oil shootout was very informative, yet confirmed our use of Amsoil. for 2 stroke oil, some companies have multiple formulations, such as Stihl. I have read in forum of someone getting lower temps significantly using 50:1 vs 40:1. Who knows what mix oil. They were probably assuming more oil, more lube, lower temps. Too lean of mix and bottom end of chainsaw engine gets dry and causes problems. Saws will preform differently not being retuned carb wise, but thats getting to a whole nother level of testing I don't want to imagine. I remember doing testing on multiple driver bits for screws, then a year or so later you did the ultimate, as I was just testing fit in screws(big difference). So I appreciate all the thought and effort. I was just talking with a friend, what we would have to do to test the various mix levels of amsoil Saber Oil that is rated at 100:1. Some use 100:1, some use it at 70:1 or 80:1 and some at 50:1. I had used at under 100:1, then went to more oil, then over the years went back towards 100:1. Now after buying my first new pro level saw, I am spending a lot more time on maintenance than my old stuff. My questions would be how does the Echo Red Armor that so many rave about compares to the Amsoil Saber. Is there a temp difference using regular mix oil at 40:1 vs 50:1 worth noting, and also In Amsoil. And what about the other big competitors? For me I would only consider using the Amsoil as I have account and it's actually cheaper, or the Red Armor. The main issue with 2 strokes is running them intermittently, not at full power and not long enough to heat up. I have a backpack blower that would get intermittent throttle and short use, and now I have some issues. Long Idles (less airflow to cool) could also be an issue I have heard but I am a carpenter and firewood cutter, so I still have lots to learn.
Again, words could not express how much you are doing! YOU and your family are blessing others. Excellence in our work is how we Shine the light of Messiah. Excellence is missing, and I appreciate your commitment to excellence. One of my favs is George Washington Carver. He used his gifts to the fullest to help countless people. It's not often talked about his relationship with the Creator and his prayer walks. Excellence in our callings is second only to having a personal relationship with our creator, through His Son Yahshua(commonly Jesus). I am not overlooking our calling towards excellence with our families. Easy to maintain an engine and miss our spouses and children.... long winded multi subject thank you!!!!!
Gabriel and the DeLappsville crew
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Ahhh I’m so glad you decided to do this! I know I mentioned doing this a while back, maybe a bunch of other people too 😁. Great video, I appreciate all the work you put into these videos. So scientific and consistent testing. Thank you!
Thanks for suggesting it too!
@@ProjectFarm The one question I have on the rusting test is "how do you maintain the consistency of the spray". You do such a tremendous job of maintaining the scientific method and removing any human variation from so many of your tests but the velocity, angle, and amount of spray will vary significantly in your rusting spray test. (not that it matters in this instance, given the huge difference in rust) but I thought I'd mention it in the spirit of constructive feedback.
Would love to see how Stihl HP Ultra holds up...I'll send u a bottle.
You have to send a generator, too.
I want to see this
I agree
I would like to see tthat and the lucas stuff too
I'd like to see the maxima brand agnst the competition.
Another amazing video. Thanks for taking the time to be so thorough.👍
Thanks and you are welcome!
Love your oil videos, in fact i love all your videos! Id love to see this one expanded to feature a few different brands including Klotz and maybe cold pour tests specifically targeted towards snowmobiling.
Thank you! Thanks for the suggestion.
I would have loved to see more oils tested like echos synthetic or stihls synthetic two stroke oils. I run my own lawn care business and have noticed that when running echos red max after a cheaper 2 stroke oil a lot of oily residue will come out the muffler for a few tanks. Is there something in the echo oil that causes deposits to break down?
Thanks for the great videos and keep it up!
That is so interesting! What is your mix ratio?
I run 50:1, I use mostly Echo equipment.
Kevin Wilcox Echo is really high quality. I bought an Echo saw from a guy a few years ago, who’d never used it. I’ve had to replace chains and bars, but the saw still cranks up on the first pull. I just got one of their trimmers, and it’s a beast!
Try the Amsoil “Saber” 2 stroke oil. Mix ratio is 100:1. I’ve had the same Echo leaf blower and string trimmer for 14 years. 10 of those were using them commercially. I still use the leaf blower to do a parking lot in the fall, once a week. No smoke or smell from that oil.
@@5roundsrapid263 I wish I bought an echo chainsaw, luckily I don't use it often. Hopefully it keeps serving you well.
I've had very little issues with the three I own and one is from 2010 and starts on the second pull. I'm a huge fan of the 2620t it's been three years without any issues aside from new filters and plugs.
The one thing Project Farm never tests;
The durability of pull start cords.
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"The one thing Project Farm always tests;" - Fixed it. ;)
I don’t think Todd wants to do that one.
Easy.. Just rip off your pull start assembly and use a drill to start em from now on, much easier lol
Very impressive testing and analysis. Thanks for all your effort.
Thanks and you are welcome!
thanks for all your hard work doing all this for our benefit
You are welcome!
Video released 42 seconds ago. I don't think it's possible to be any earlier.
Hi David, Thank you very much and hope you enjoy the video! Have a great week
Because it only takes about .5 seconds to respond that would mean there are 84 opportunities before you to respond
@@truckcampertraveler7369 they aren't discrete 0.5 second opportunities though. You don't have to wait till 0.5s to post, you could go crazy and post after 0.4763992s. so really you've got infinite opportunities. Or just avoid that quagmire, and point out that it is possible to reply earlier.
@@benholroyd5221 😆
Wow you responded to a video you didn't watch first. Wow amazing
Try amsoil intercepter vs dominator to see if the “race“ oil is any different
It's a good idea. Having used both, I generally prefer Interceptor as it seems to burn much cleaner. Dominator is tempting to use though because its darker color makes it easier to see how much fuel is left in my semi-transparent dirt bike fuel tank.
I use interceptor as its advertised more for being used with valved engines.My 96 seadoo xp is known to get gummed up rave valves. Might show cleaner burning than dominator.
@@imadecoy. so I the battle of the 'race' oils you're going for the darker one? I'll be all unwoke and go for the Aryan Interceptor then.
PS why do they both sound like dildos???
Perhaps a secondary use is to apply to said dildos???
Brings a whole new meaning to '2 stroke'... And 'engine'.
The darkness of the dominator is that way to be seen once it is mixed with gas. It is also formulated to be used in high rpm race engines as per amsoil rep.
Yeah try that @Project Farm
You're dedication to results is MOST impressive.
Thanks!
This is a very thorough test and had really well done results. There is an aspect of the two oils that needs to be addressed, and that is the flash points. The oils here are engineered for different purposes although it is applicable for air cooled 2 cycle engines. Lets use the examples of a chainsaw and a racing 2 stroke bike. During use, the engines are subjected to different heat cycles and torque moments. A chainsaw is MOSTLY used in a short burst then idle, short burst then Idle. Like when limbing a trunk. A racing moto bike is usually pegged at max rpm throuought the race. This is two different applications. The reason the high flashpoint racing oil stays "oily" and you can see the slick deposits is to provide lubrication during the extended high rpm time. In the chainsaw application, the same racing mix would allow the oil to be sent through the exhaust without being burned. The higher flash point oils are engineered for racing/extended top rpm usage and the lower flash point oils are for short bursts of WOT like limbing a tree trunk. If you are milling lumber from a trunk and running the saw at WOT down the trunk, then use a higher flashpoint oil for lubricity, but if you are mainly limbing or cutting regular size firewood then use the lower flashpoint oil. The difference is created ash during combustion. The lower flashpoint oil will ash and burn off the piston where the higher flashpoint oil will remain "oily" on the piston crown. When the piston goes through heat cycles it will turn the oil to carbon. During future heat cycles the carbon will flake off and get trapped between the rings and cylinder walls and this is where the scratches come from. These vertical striated scratches will allow more oil past the rings and compounds the carbon issue. You may need to match the oil in your mix to the usage. For example, if milling lumber with a saw, then use a stiff mixture of high flash point oil for long high rpm runs through the log, then, after several planks are milled, put 1/2 tank of lower flashpoint mix to "burn off" the excess oil in the combustion process and help clean the piston top of carbon. When this is empty then run a few more tanks of the stiff oil mix. Its true the oil is the life of your 2 stroke engine, but knowing the flashpoints and proper mix ratio will do a long way to maintaining a long and trouble free 2 stroke engine lifein whatever power equipment you are running.
Thanks for sharing.
I rode multiple 2 stroke mopeds as a kid. I'm telling you I could feel a difference and always went royal purple or amsoil. Glad I did
Thanks for sharing.
In your mind you have to justify throwing money away.
I have a rebuilt 1996 rm125 and I can feel no tangible difference between super tech, yamalube, and amsoil. The only difference being the super tech has a negligible difference in spooge.
When the oil costs more than the small engine it's going in, go SuperTech.
Thanks for the feedback.
I’ve been logging for forty years. I use motor oil as a mixing oil for my chainsaws. I use Stihl chainsaws. The two I have now are 12 years old. They are used for limbing large trees, trimming truckloads and some felling. I’ve never had any issues with either chainsaw. My weed eater and blower get the same treatment. Mind you, mixing oil is colored so it’s easier to know that you are using mixed gas but I handle the gas mixing and I only have one gas container.
@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk Are you talking about single grade like 30w or something like 10w30?
@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk wait really? What kind of motor oil, and what ratio
@@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk I am intrigued! Am I correct that you mean 4 stroke oil? Do you use a certain brand and viscosity? What is you mix ratio?
Great video!! You should a two stroke oil campus like you did for car oil! Loved that series and learned a lot from it
Thanks!
Thanks for the great content. I have seen a couple of tests on youtube including yours that uses the Amsoil Dominator but I am told that it is purposely designed for racing applications and can in fact leave more deposits than is desirable in more "normal" applications. If you do some future tests I would love to see the "Interceptor" oil from Amsoil to see if deposit levels are better.
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Id really like to see more test with 2 strokes
Great feedback. Thank you
This
I agree !
Here’s another test! www.amsoil.com/p/saber-professional-synthetic-2-stroke-oil-atp/?code=ATPQT-EA?zo=5876374
WOW, look at the ports in those engines. What were those cut with a hammer?
Fast China factory
Mike D yes, by a 5 year old in China.
$125 and it actually works. I have clothing that cost more than that 🤭
Chinese junk!
I've seen neater holes from thrown rods.
Great test. I would love to see another video with other 2 stroke oil brands. Thanks for the video.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
One more suggestion, it might be interesting to see a 50/50 blend of the two oils gives some of the beneficial properties of each at lesser per unit cost than the Amsoil. Thanks again.
I commend you for the effort you put forth to make these informative videos.
Thanks!
I appreciate the amount of work you put into this. From a fellow youtuber, video editing takes a lot of time and I can't imagine how much work you put into the testing, not including the editing. I use SuperTech in my old boat, but switched to a synthetic Pennzoil 2 stroke oil a couple years ago for lower smoke. Great video.
Thank you.
Every now and again I throw some 2 cycle oil in the gas tanks of my cars, give it a 16:1 ratio and get the tailgaters back a little. Just kidding but I have driven all the way home and not bought gas and have to dump the old chainsaw gas in and honestly it doesn’t smoke even at 16:1. Honestly I swapped plugs late after doing that 4-5 times and the plugs were fine.
I've been recommended this video for a couple of months and I finally got tied of seeing it, so I watched it! Great video and that generator test is the worst case scenario because you cannot give the cylinder a wash with the throttle like you do on power equipment.
I swear by Amsoil and began using it about a decade ago in my Yamaha Superjet 700. The cylinders are pristine and ride solo, never have fouled the ski out once!
Then I began running in my chainsaws and my dad began loving it in his Stihl too! It never fouls, ever! Started his 029 saw with an oversized cylinder from 25:1, 32:1, 40:1 and jumped up to 60:1 to test it! Back in the 90's, you could never get the parts easily and the saw shop modified his saw with a larger cylinder from another, larger Stihl to get it back to work. Settled it into around 46:1 to 50:1 and it keeps on keeping on with a Stihl that calls for 25:1 to 32:1 premix.
Same cylinder with the same darn piston and it's been 20 years... It looks like fogged glass with zero marring.
I've been reconditioning/rebuilding and recovering old saws lately, the Amsoil always works without fail on saws that used to throw a fit with fouling!
Thanks so much!
Great test! You visualise what the lab confirms in the "dry" language of numbers - this is WOW!
Some diesel drivers use 1:100 or 1:200 ratio 2stroke oil in their fuel in order to reduce injection pump & injectors' wear & tear. Ever tried to see whether it makes a difference plain diesel vs. mixture w.r.t. the scoring and what impact it has on emmisions, engine sludge, etc.?
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Thank you for helping the blue collar man save money
You are very appreciative
I love watching your vids
They are very interesting
Thank you!
I just stumbled on your page today, and I have watched your videos for the last six and a half hours. I love the amount of detail you put into your experiments and the explanations of why you do the experiments the way you are doing them. I have shared your page to as many of my friends as I can. Absolutely love your work!
Awesome! Thank you!
This was my idea that I gave you like a year ago! I'm so glad that you did it. Thank you! I use a ton of 2 stroke oil with my business and always wondered about this.
Thanks for giving me the idea!
What 2 stroke oil do you like the most? I started using Amsoil saber mixed at 100 to 1 and I like it so far but I really haven't used it too much.
Would love to see more 2 stroke oil testing 👍👍
Thanks for the suggestion.
You rock Project Farm! Thank you for the quality information and videos! Have a great New Year.
Thanks! Happy New Year!
Maybe a video idea would be testing different car wash soaps. Thanks for the fair and 100% accurate tests!
Great video idea! Thank you
The transfer and exhaust ports on the engines are absolutely terrible
Thanks for the feedback.
They're Chinese made, so go figure.
@@darthgamer6080 Also EPA hate performance they rather put so much regulations so much that the engine has to lose power to meet with regulations.
Big Smoke, you are absolutely right!
Nothing a Dremel won't fix
I love this guy brutally honest and thorough😊
Thanks!