Before watching the video. In the 2000s, it'd probably be Wolverine, but nowadays, the impact of the MCU is undeniable, and Iron Man is the face of it.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bfWonder Woman? Anywhere iron man isn’t known I guarantee you Wonder Woman probably isn’t either. Wonder Woman is NOT the 4th pick and it’s by a long shot
@@zvii7z Ironman is not known in countries where hollywood doesn't premiers ww does, Ironman is not known among elderly people ww does,Ironman is not cosplayed every halloween,ww does.
Cap,Wonder Woman,Flash,Sonic,TMNT,Ben 10,Anakin Skywalker(Jedi Anakin only,obviously) are all good choices for the fourth spot. And yes Ik TMNT is a team of heroes and not an individual one but I don’t think that really matters
@@Ocelot835that’s because captain marvel was one of their earliest characters and superman and Batman had barely been established. Batman was created in 1945, he literally didn’t have the time to be established on par with captain marvel.
@@zzodysseuszz The hell are you talking about? First issue of Batman was published in 1939 and one year later we already had introduction of Robin, many of the iconic characters from his rogue gallery (Joker, Hugo Strange, Catwoman and etc), “no kill rule” and etc. During the WW2 Batman was so popular that they made movie about him in 1943, same goes with Superman that beyond that had his own highly successful radio play count in thousands of episodes and high-budget animated film series! Not to say that Captain Marvel was created only two years after Superman (and year after Batman), so the time of big duo popularity HE WAS THE ONE that have been barely established!
This was a great watch, Got me nostalgic seeing who got to run each generation again & enjoyed your personal breakdowns. And the last character you chose I can dig it haha Awesome work on the vid.
id say wolverine is grouped into the X-Men and to me the 4th spot is either given to Captain America or X-Men. either way you cant go wrong but to me Cap is the easy answer
Never liked marvel besides spiderman, but I did know and like Wolverine since I was super young. I recognized him more than even Ironman and Captain America. Thought he was super cool so I gotta agree but it's probably only cuz that. Only Wolverine and Wonder Woman makes sense to me
Exactly I mean he put Black Panther in there that debuted in FF... putting the Thing or the Human Torch as a FF representative was an easy 4th or 3rd pick.
I have 3 heroes for my 4th member of mount rushmore. First Wonder Woman. She was the first female superhero and paved the way for other female superheroes and continues to be a world-wide recognizable force. Second Wolverine. He is by far the most popular X-men and he was still very popular in the 2000's. Third Iron Man. He started the MCU and after that became one of the most popular characters. And he truly had a good character arc.
U could make an argument for flash and hulk as well. The word speed is synonymous with flash. And and how many rage monsters have we seen thanks to the hulk
@@hungryalmighty7156 True but the problem with Hulk and Flash is that they only had 1 movie. And Hulk's was already not that popular. And in recent years the raging monster Hulk has taken a backseat. And as for Flash i guess you could make that argument but with the CW show quitting and the movie having the worst CGI in history he isn't as popular as the people i just mentioned. Plus he is being used alot more like comic relief than an actual superhero. I love Flash but he just isn't as popular as Iron man, WW and wolverine.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf I'm not sure the popularity of the MCU kinda started because of Iron Man. And the popularity of Marvel was brought by the X-men and Spider-Man. And Wolverine is the most popular X-men so yeah.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf @Neericks.-bp6fc Your entire claim more popular anyone beside the big is based on unproven and nonanecdotal claims about Halloween costumes and her being big countries that do not present Hollywood even those same countries who do not show hollywood liek china or south korea marginalize the position of women yet ww is huge there lol or your claims about elders who dont watch tv when many of them do with grandchildren and chidleren elders would know ironman hulk and wolverine but i guess you did consider this. Your people are a joke you cannot even counter critically why wonderwoman if she is so popular has less success in almost mediums than ironman, hulk or wolverine based sheer data and numbers. this not just movies and box office with her movies except ww 2017 being fails that underperformed , her comic sells less she cant carry 2 titles she does any solo animated series or video games to her name. Compare to wolverine/xmen or hulk who had abundance of video games animated series movies and biggest movie franchise in world in mcu there no comparison. even ironman being face of mcu the biggest brand in hollywood that global reach in most countries and popularized the superhero genre from obscurity has more impact than wonderwoman in last 15 years. Its sad fact you need accept that male heroes dominate in popularity in a industry that is targeted towards men as main consumer base not women.
Hmmm. This is definitely one in case in which... Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and... Wonder Woman, for me. She absolutely paved the way for female super heroes and continues to be a world-wide recognizable force.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518 Circe, Ares, Hercules count? For Wonder Woman, while she may not have the Rogues Gallery as some of the others, I think that's at least in part due to her initially being a WW II Hero, followed by a television series that, much like the Incredible Hulk's, didn't focus upon supervillains but rather "real life" encounters and villainy. I'm just saying that Iron Man to me represents recency bias.
@@brentwerley6762 My point is, she just dosnt sell. Even at the height of her popularity(T.V) the books weren't selling. She's not a powerhouse even though she's marketed as one. I feel like giving someone a spot just because she did a representation would sully the spot. People know her sure, but if you went outside and asked a normal person "what would be the rushmore?", it would be batman,superman,spiderman, and the fourth sport would be Ironman,Captain America or Wolverine. Wonder woman is usually an afterthought. She's Aquaman or Green Lanturn grade.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518 I definitely get your points. It'd be interesting to do such a poll. I just look at all the examples of the Rushmore spots given in different categories, and I see a lot of men, let alone white men. I was in a training the other day and we were asked to name all of these famous geniuses and that's all we could come come up with. I'm not suggesting anything other than taking a second look as to why this dynamic may be so commonplace. I am NOT suggesting going in the other direction as the M-SHE-U has done!
@@brentwerley6762 the reason why it's all white men is because comics were created by white men and white men are the main demographic. Might not be who they want their target demographic to be anymore, but it's still who reads the most comics. Women think comics are too nerdy and the rest rather watch the movies and play the games, sure there's exceptions, it's still looked at as a white man's hobby. We're always going to pick who resonates with us the most, and surprise, it's usually the ones who look like us. Not that there's not great minority or female heroes, there are, but nomatter how much you want to try to get rid of it, humans will always have a bias twords themselves. When I say that, I'm not talking about a racial collective, I'm saying you will always have a bias twords you.
That fourth slot has to be either wolverine or Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman because she is the embodiment of female empowerment in comics, there is no female heroes without her. She’s basically the Superman of female heroes. And than you have wolverine the 2nd most popular marvel hero and the most popular x-men member
Female empowerment is not a quality same as spider-man being teenage boy empowerment is not a quality. Wonder woman sucks as a character anyways. She’s very sexist in the comics and it was even worse in the early comics, she’s also kinda a worse superman and she never takes the unbiased side of a conflict even tho she’s supposed to represent law and justice. She-hulk is a better Wonder Woman than Wonder Woman is. She represents law and justice in a better way, she was actually likeable in the comics and she was a very strong and intelligent and witty female character in almost all of her comics. Wonder Woman doesn’t compare. Wonder Woman just isn’t a good example and was never as possible as Wolverine neither.
it should be the hulk, tbh. he became internationally famous after the 70s TV show, and then the animated series came. there was literally no kid who weren't a fan of the hulk, everyone liked him. from the 70s to 2012, the hulk was one of the three faces of marvel. his comics were incredibly sold, just look at planet hulk and world war hulk. immortal hulk was literally the only thing from the all new all different era which people liked and cared to read lol.
That guy was everywhere to. Even on 1 of the old attractions in Australia before Ironman was well known. The 2 characters on the billboard was Spiderman and Hulk. Enough said.
@@ppgod6989you could argue the DCEU versions of Batman and Superman weren’t very faithful to their characters either but the movies didn’t stop them from being iconic superheroes.
The thing is about the first three is you rarely have to tell them their origin story. Everyone knows krypton blew up, everyone knows uncle Ben died, everyone knows that Batman’s parents were shot in an alley. So that’s what makes them easy to put up there but hard for everyone else
most people dont know ww is a amazon or the daughter zeus or made from clay. more can hulk exposed to radiation or ironman man a suit then facts about ww
It's easily Wonder Woman imo. Characters like Wolverine and The Hulk are massive, but Wonder Woman is still a top 5 iconic Superhero simply by her name alone. She paved the way for female heroes in the genre and she is quite frankly a contender for the single most iconic female fictional character of all time. She may not be insanely popular nowadays, but she still is popular and iconic. Easily fits the spot the best imo.
Wtf 😂 I've never met anyone who said wonder woman is their favourite super hero ! She only got popular because she always hangs out with Superman and Batman ! Her solo runs aren't as successful !
DoctorMinjinx being the most iconic female fictional charcter lol barbie is bigger than wonderwoman paving for female heroes is only reason anyone put her she does have media coverage to match ironman hulk or wolverine
not really barbie is bigger than wonderwoman being the first female superheroes you can biggest female and still not entire not entire the top 5 or even 10 quiet a margin outside of gender she no merits to actually be on the list especially when factoring success and popularity.
there is very good reason there no wonderwoman movies before 2017 if such huge ip hollywood and dc would have given her a movie right out of gate instead batman had 8 movies and superman 6 movies before wonderwoman would given her get cinematic debut,this tells everything about her importance to dc and her lack of fan following and lack demand for ww media compared to her peers
I’d lean on Hulk too because then it gives Marvel 2 iconic characters to go along with DC’s 2 icons. That and the Hulk was probably Marvel’s most famous character for decades next to Spider-Man (before the MCU too)
HARD disagree about the Fantastic Four not having a stand out member. Human Torch and Thing stand far above the other two characters in terms of popularity. Demand for a Human Torch solo series was so high during that era that he took over Strange Tales for a few years. The Thing has also just always stood above the rest of the team in terms of popularity and that's reflected in the book as he begins to get more screen time the deeper in you go. I think there's a case for one of them to be on the Silver Age Mt. Rushmore over Hulk since Hulk wasn't an instant success but The FF just is the silver age incarnate. The early Hulk installments struggled to find an audience and his status quo varied from issue to issue as Lee and Kirby struggled to find something that worked. Hulk really gained popularity more in the bronze age. That's just like my opinion though.
Could be I was the right age at the right time, but I had a MASSIVE admiration for the Thing. For me he represented all the awkward, ugly guys finally getting their chance to shine. Ben's fight against the Champion was one of very few times any work of literature got my eyes watery. The Thing *has* to be on the mountain.
I'd have Wolverine as the forth. For me it would have to be one of the X-men and Wolverine is the most popular. We had the explosion of X-Men comics in the 80's followed by the cartoon that changed the way superhero cartoons were made if not cartoons in general. And then it was X-men that really started the comic book movie boom of the 2000's. All the movie studios have said that X-men was the movie that made them believe in comic book movies mainly because of the effects. You had guys flying, shooting ice and fire, running through walls and people saw that and thought that cinema was finally ready to have all the heroes on the big screen. And that ushered in a new generation of comic book readers. So for me it's Wolverine.
Just putting it out there: Batman the animated series is both better, had a stronger impact, and holds up better to this day across the board. X-Men the animated had a big effect also, but NGL, there's a a lot of talking down that just comes from the X-Men franchise and from the show runners specifically that keeps it back and that Batman the animated series and subsequent DCAU shows just didn't have as consistently. Also, the last season of X-Men shifting production to the Philippines and the weird visual drop.
@@SonnyK248 Who cares about mainstream?She has more influence than any marvel hero,is most profitable female superhero in superhero history, people from isolated countries where there's not even electricity knows her, she's been cosplayed every Halloween and most importantly elderly people who doesn't watch mainstream also knows her, none of mainstream superhero have these traits except Superman and Batman.
Wolverine or the Hulk I grew up on the early 00’s marvel movies & my dad was telling me everything about the X-men & the Hulk as much as Spiderman Fantastic 4 & Superman & Batman
It's 100% Wonder Woman. I honestly didn't even have to think about it. Diana is one of the most influential fictional women ever, and is a role-model for countless feminists across the world. There's no way we could have an all-time superhero Mount Rushmore without including at least one superheroine. Every-day people refer to women as their "Wonder Woman" for being their hero the same exact way someone would say: "You're my Superman!" I'll give you a perfect example on why it's undoubtedly Wonder Woman-When was the last time you heard anyone singing "the Wolverine theme song?" Or "the Iron Man theme song" (although I have to admit the 60s Iron Man theme song is an underrated gem)? If we could put entire teams on here, the X-Men and Avengers would be up there, no question, but I wouldn't say a single member of those teams is as monumental as Wonder Woman. And for a "Mount Rushmore," the term "monumental" is key. Think of it this way-The Superhero Mount Rushmore could easily just be the most recognizable individual superhero theme intros, and it would be the Superman 40s intro, the Batman 60s intro, the Spider-Man 60s intro, and the Wonder Woman 70s intro. It's Wonder Woman, guys. She was so insanely ahead of her time.
Because everyone let's be real with it, we cannot act like Spider-Man and Batman do not carry their universe without these two. DC and marvel would not be profitable and it's just facts
Oh, Marvel would definately be profitable without Spider-Man. Or are you forgetting about the MCU? And, hell, if they actually tried, DC could be profitable without Batman. Just look how popular the Arrowverse got, without the need for Batman.
@@herowither12354 arrowverse is declining HARD,and i think he meant in the old days💀obviously now they can but back in the 40's-60's _From __#PureTuber_
@@herowither12354 The companies likely would've gone under at multiple points in history without Spiderman or Batman. Even today, while the MCU is wildly profitable, if you average out the MCU's total earnings you get about $912mil, whereas Spider-Man films (post 2000s) average ~$1bil. Similarly, the DCEU average is ~$480mil, while Batman (live action) movies average ~$562mil. Even with possibly the largest profits these companies have ever seen (via their cinematic universes), their #1 hero's, Spiderman & Batman, outperform the entire rest of the company. So while these companies would probably be profitable in the current day without Spidey and Bats (unsure however, as they merged into Disney and Discovery respectively), the fact still remains that those 2 carry their universes
I feel bad for Kamala Khan, her 2014-2015 comic run was genuinely a good read and had pretty decent sales but ever since the Secret Invasion 2015 event put their titles on hold, being overexposed and the disaster that was Civil War II, Marvel is struggling to make the character come close to the success she had early on.
@nothingisitchingme5874 There were enough who liked her to make her 2014-2015 series decent sales for a brand new character, it was only after Marvel overexposed her post Secret Wars 2015 and her out of character moments outside her title hurt the character appeals, which I already pointed in my previous comment. Not my fault you can’t read.
I wonder how the landscape would look like if Wonder Woman got an animated show like Batman and Superman did. That aside, it really has to be Wolverine over Ironman.
@@unaxthorizedJoker is a safe pick, and Green Goblin too. The question is who gets one of the other two spots? From Sup’s gallery we have Lex, Zod, Doomsday and Braniac, but Lex is by far the biggest enemy of Supes. Not gonna even talk about Wonder Woman’s enemies, or any other JL member really. Other contenders from Batman are Scarecrow, Ras al Ghoul, Deathstroke and Penguin, but the second stands out the most. Besides that we have Magneto or Apocalypse from X men. If we go deeper into Spidey we have Sandman, Doc Ock and Venom, which are all top contenders. The only other two that are remarkable are Darkside and Thanos. I would say that number 3 spot goes to Thanos, simply because of his popularity from Infinity war, which got its foundation from the Infinity gauntlet comic run. The 4th spot is for me a toss up between Lex or Darkside, as both are very impactful, but in very different ways. Darkside hasn’t received a lot of love recently, but every scene he is in he dominates ridiculously. Lex on the other hand is always a signal that something long and outstanding will happen over time and that he will always create an interesting plot point or twist. I think I will go with Lex as he has had more scenes and more exposure to the overall media as Darkseid, and he is a way more interesting foil to Superman than Darkside, which has overlapping elements with Thanos. I think it fits quite well like this, we have a genius who is the complete opposite to Superman in body and mind and has to make up with his human intellect and resources. Similarly we have Green goblin who is just as mad as intelligent, but also on the same level as Spider-Man. Joker needs no explanation and Thanos, who has a super mad and utilitarian plan to bring order, while also simultaneously being in love with death.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf keep telling without faulty logic when wolverine more and better exposure almost forms of media xmen outsell wb in comics movies video games and merch
@@hungryalmighty7156 yes mcu is biggest franchise world and impact popular culture more than or wonderwoman or flash or even hulk today ironman is a legitimate candite you cant mcu recent mcu been thing 15 years in 15 more impact cinema popular culture and superheroes in mainstream anything else and ironman is face and linchpin of that franchise
Love it love it I really do, but out of pure curiosity do you pick one turtle or do you just paint the mask in all of their colors, do you also add yellow for the fifth turtle or do you let the people vote on which turtle they should put up? Sorry to come at you with 1000 questions.
Damn, literally right off the bat that was exactly how I made my mount Rushmore. Dc Superman, Marvel Spider-Man, Image comics spawn, and Dark horse Hellboy
I think Invincible has overtaken Spawn by now. Plus Invincible’s suit is pretty much a mascot for Image because it makes the letter “i” which also represents Invincible and iconic which is what he asked for.
@@Drifter1989 I don’t know man? Trust me I like Mark more than I like spawn, but spawn was like one of the founding fathers of image. If there was any discussion about who should take up the spot, there are too many candidates to take over like savage dragon, Youngblood, witchblade, Shadowhawk and more and more but I wouldn’t be mad if Mark took over, but that’s got to be up for a vote or something
it's wonder woman people are thinking who is currently more popular rather than who has had the most impact on not just the industry but pop culture as a whole like Superman/Batman/Spiderman while iron man is the face of the MCU, his popularity is declining due to being out of the MCU for over half a decade now. He doesn't really have relevancy on the level of Superman/Batman/Spiderman outside the MCU. also it's not about "being even" or saying DC is better than Marvel or Marvel is better than DC. Some people are only choosing Ironman or Captain America because they want 2 marvel characters and to make it "even", but the reality is that they were not big characters until the last decade. Superman/Batman/Spiderman have always been popular, relevant and icons even outside the comic medium Wonder Woman has been the leading lady in comics since her inception, she is know by you own grandmother and she is the first character people think when you say "female superhero". She will probably always hold that status for as long as comics exist too and I don't see that changing.
user-iohj91p2d your argument is so flawed . When thinking critically your using feminism and leading lady as your main arguments ww being only leading due copyright issues not because hugely popular , who cares ,last decade even last decade since 1990s and since 1970s hulk and wolverine respectively bigger ww ever was both had movies ww multiple solo animated shows longer last tv shows and video games. you cannot dismissing the impact franchise in world is reason most people like superheroes for that ironman cap wolverine hulk are all bigger than ww as far general public are concerned . When ww has a few more movies under belt as well as multiple video games , merch sales and solo animated projects we can talk . The fact even before hulk and wolverine were bigger than ww and after films last decade cap ironman and thor made more of a cultural dent through movies and ensemble movies. Where wonder woman who's only relevant media one successful film every other film she been apart has been a disaster critically and finically.
@@Neericks.-bp6fc and wonderwoman more popular how so? wolverine center of 10 + xmen movies has been center 4 xmen cartoons and wolverine moving soon with deadpool had video gaems more comic ties you accept wonderwoman bigger only 1 successful 1 film and tv show from 50 years lol
Superhero Mt. Rushmore is 100% Superman, Batman, Spiderman, and the Hulk. It’s not even a question, think about pop culture from years before the MCU even started. Hulk was everywhere and was easily marvels second most popular character
@@tevincollins2869 Wolverine only got super popular in the 90’s and Early 2000’s while hulk has been popular since his creation. With a whole ass 5 season tv series in the late 70’s, a time when making a show about a dude transforming into a green monster giant was lunacy, but hulk was popular enough to warrant the venture. To me it’s not even a contest on who belongs up there with the big 3
I feel like it used to be Wonder Woman but ever since around 2011 or 2012 it’s been Iron Man. As Iron Man’s cultural impact ever since 2008 goes outside of superhero movies or even superheros in general, the character changed cinema.
Ironman is great but ww is more famous than him, she's famous in the parts of planet where hollywood doesn't exist, she's been cosplayed every halloween and most importantly elderly people knew who she is unlike Ironman.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf even the oldest elderly people definitely know about Iron Man by now and I feel the MCU has the same global reach as say Star Wars where anyone no matter where knows someone about the series
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf mcu has a large global reach in all countries the only like central how ww has larger pull your only argument cosplays which plenty characters have and elderly people your assuming elderly people dont watch movies which outright false. You feet stand on about ww being more known popular or famous than ironman or wolverine or hulk especially when you look at wider commercially success those characters way than ww has. Like or not marvel is bigger dc worldwide not just first world in most countries know movies and cinema is , you accept ww is known dont electricity or water it most ludicrous claim i ever ever head.
I think it should be Wonder Woman. While I love Wolverine Wonderwoman was a major influence on not just comic books but pop culture she’s one of the first woman superheroes and did “strong female character” before it was cool. While Captain America was a great influence on WW2 not only did Wonder Woman influence ww2 woman front atleast to my knowledge but it also inspired many female comic book reader and is so legendary she is considered the big three in dc comics with Superman and Batman.
again wonderwoman simply not popular enough as a hero being the first woman superheroe argument and anyone through her favor . when has been successful in her solo comics ? when has successful exposure of solo video games or animated series even her films outside 2017 wonderwoman were disasters , if claim to fame for wonderwoman she is a woman deserves spot that does account the legacy of media and cultural impact beyond gender
Yeah, I feel like it's gotta be Iron Man. Wolverine and Wonder Woman are so iconic that it's hard to leave them out, but Iron Man represents the MCU. And the MCU is not only the biggest superhero thing of all-time, but the biggest movie franchise of all-time. And the gap between it and anything else is MASSIVE
If it has to specifically be a comic HERO, then I think you're right. But if we were to make the 4th slot accessible to any comic book character, then the answer is easy, it's The Joker.
Someone I'm shocked actually doesn't show up is Jessica Cruz from DC for the Post-Modern Era, outside of Hal Jordan due to being Evergreen, she's started to become DC's go to Green Lantern, for what, 11 years of service since her first appearance, she's appeared as a main character in her own comic run, at least two animated movies, and a popular member of the DC Super Girls show, which really out competes say Silk for the fourth spot. Also, Evergreen, that is really the term you've been looking for towards the end, Transformers fans coined it to being the eternal version of that character, and yeah, that describes how all we're getting now is rehashing of the same names and stories as they're the money makers.
@@Savage-nv6wrJessica Cruz is the 6th human to be inducted into the GLC as a recurring character. She got PTSD after witnessing her friends be gunned down by the mob and still deals with anxiety. Despite her constant fear she always steps up to any challenge, even defying Darkseid when she was out of power once, proving that just because we are scared that doesn't mean we can't stand up and fight. She embodies the ideals of the GLC through her constant determination to face her fears and represents those who struggle with what one might call invisible wounds or scars, mental health issues, and shows the strength they truly have despite their trauma or other issues. She actually had the power ring from Earth 3 at first due to her anxiety and though she no longer is controlled by it it is still present just as her trauma no longer controls her but is still present. love all things Green Lantern and she is easily top 10 members of GLC with Hal taking the top spot for me.
I agree with most comments saying Wonder Woman. She’s definitely pretty up there with them in popularity and when someone thinks of a woman superhero, immediately Wonder Woman pops up in mind. Though Wolverine is a pretty close though honestly.
again how is wonderwoman popularity up both her movies made less billon she anywhere same amount animated shows video games or comic sales as big guns ? rgkong8783?
Idk how so many people don't think its wonder woman cuz I really do feel she is literally incredibly well known by every generation. Wolverine is fair but I have always felt like Wonder Woman is way more popular somehow. It wouldn't be Iron Man tho cuz majority of those fans only come from the MCU specifically rather than any fans that were focused on the comics.
I was gonna get mad about Batman Beyond losing to Jessica Jones, but then you clarified they were made for the TV Shows, not the comics... So okay, reasonable.
Jessica Jones started in comics long before the Netflix show came about. She was introduced in November of 2001 in a series called Alias, which had the misfortune of having the same name as a TV series that came about at the same time.
@@crazyJman80 Ah, right I see what you mean now. To me, it makes sense to include super hero/villain characters that originate in other media on lists like these, so long as they stick around after being introduced into the comics. By the logic used to exclude Terry's Batman and X23, a Mount Rushmore of female superheroes couldn't include the Barbara Gordon version of Batgirl, who was created at the request of the people making the '60s show with Adam West.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf impactful famous how ? most like wolverine hulk ironman , thor or cap outperform ww every metric movies tv shows video games merch ww being known in third world countries that don't have Hollywood is few and far between. Those 'elderly people' dont films or tv is again far and few between your blatantly ignoring the exposure of mcu or any films tv shows elderly dont watch yet they know ww. Even then most countries have access to Hollywood even third ones and the presence of mcu overshadows any dc in those countries. You claim ww is famous in countries oppress and marginalize women is ludicrous and makes you extremely ignorant of the world
People saying anyone but Wolverine is wrong, pre MCU he was being glazed in the foX Men and post MCU he got 3 solo movies (Origins Wolverine 2013 and Logan. And if you still disagree…Deadpool AND Wolverine.
Superman, Batman, Spiderman and Hulk. Reason I say Hulk is because he was very well known since Lou Ferringo, had movies during the early 2000s and starred in other Marvel characters movies multiple times after. He was too popular. Without those 4. I'd say. Womder Woman, Wolverine, Flash and Ironman
I'm pretty sure a supermans flight actually came from the Golden Age, 1940s Superman cartoon as a way for animators to easly have superman travel from point A to B rather than just leaping and running to places
I heavily disagree with the choice of Shazam over Captain America in the Golden Age mountain. The effect of WW2 on the comic industry alone should have put him on the mountain.
probably wolverine, or a single generic ninja turtle representing all 4, although those became mostly popular due to cartoon and movies mostly, the thing would be funny due to being rocks
Wolverine is the namesake of the Wolverine Publicity trope for a reason. Marvel was literally putting him on covers of comics he doesn’t appear on or has a small cameo in. No way is Iron man over him on the Rushmore.
again using gender your only argument just she is a woman does not her entitle to be in top 4 if had same success in media (games, cartoons movies and tv shows) then could yes otherwise nope
can you do one of these but for supervillains because a I think it would be interesting and just like the saying by Chadwick Boseman said, "A superhero movie is only as great as its villains".
@@olharebelde Nah, Venom is too popular of a character to not be included. The list is really Joker, Venom, and then two others who aren't nearly as popular.
I was born in 2005 so I didn't have much time before the post modern superhero media explosion, but from my memory as a young kid before the mcu and similar stuff really shot up, Hulk and Wolverine were insanely popular, definitely 2nd and 3rd of marvel's characters before the MCU put the spotlight on Iron Man and Cap (all of them behind spiderman of course)
@harryrao4296 I can't say since I've personally always been more of a marvel fan than DC and I was really young at the time. Wonderwoman is definitely the most popular female superhero of all time, so there's a good chance she was more popular. From my personal memory I'd say they were all around the same level, being just below superman, batman, and spiderman
@@Desmond_Video_Discussions again you still suggesting wonderwoman number 4 in today day and age ? wonderwoman being most popular female does not bigger hulk or wolverine 2000s let ask this what media did wonderwoman have back then? wolverine 3 movies xmen and mutiple cartoons hulk 2003 movie and smash video apart starring supporting character on jla what was there in 2000s for ww?
@@Desmond_Video_Discussions there no way wonderwoman bigger either hulk wolverine or ironman in late 2000s and early 2010s. All these characters multiple movies tv shows cartoons what did wonderwoman in this time? one animated movie in 2009 thats all being biggest female does not she more popular any those males when more success in wider media
@@Desmond_Video_Discussions why would wonderwoman pre be huge sure she is biggest female but in medium targeted strongly at young boys and men those male heroes like hulk wolverine and ironman in late 2000s were all more popular and had more successful media.
I think you’ve forgotten to mention that Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel’s first Volume had to be reprinted 7 times due to its popularity. 7 reprints are real big boy numbers, and usually only happens for X-Men or Spider-Man comics
....Shouldn't "The Shadow" be considered as the final member of the "Superhero Mount Rushmore"? The Shadow was THE #1 most popular superhero of the 1930's to 1950's and his popularity left a massive impact on all no power superheroes that came afterwards (Batman even plagiarized a The Shadow story for his first appearance comic and started out as being nothing more than a ripoff of The Shadow). EX: The Shadow's nickname was "The Knight of Darkness", The Shadow used Yellow Bat shaped boomerangs, The Shadow used duo guns (Batman as well in his early comics), The Shadow had a villain called "The Grim Joker" who was a clown themed mafia guy that killed people with toxic laughing gas, etc The Shadow was a superhero every 50 year old adult to 100 something year old knew and loved.
@@Chckster The only reason why that's the case was The Shadow stopped getting shows/movies by the 1950's and had to solely rely on his pulps/comics to maintain an audience. Popularity is fleeting. Most people don't even remember the names of popular actors from the 1930's. If Batman stopped getting Movies/shows/games, his fanbase would die out too in 60-80 years. Making him a forgotten "has been" no one gives a shit about because they don't read books. Hell in the 1980's before the 1st Tim Burton Batman film, even Moon Knight was selling better than Batman comics. Nobody really gave a shit about Batman until that Tim Burton film. Most people saw him as a "bad movie" joke character thanks to the Adam West series.
@@RamsTheNameCom All this, yet you still haven't denied him being better remembered as Batman's inspiration. No matter what you say it is a fact he is remembered as Batman's inspiration, nothing you say can change that fact. Likewise, I think, a character who is best remembered as an inspiration (By those who even remember him) doesn't belong on any rushmore.
@@Chckster Isn't Mount Rushmore a tribute to "The Founding Fathers"? Shouldn't "The Founding Fathers of Comics" be the characters that had the biggest impact in inspiring the foundation for superheroes as a whole? Stuff like Will Eisner's "The Spirit" who revolutionized the way comic books were drawn/written. He's known as "The Citizen Kane" of comic book heroes, because all future comic books took heavy inspiration from how Will Eisner wrote/drew those comics. They even named the comic book awards after Will Eisner. The Shadow was the #1 first popular mainstream superhero. Before him, superheroes weren't widely known to the public. Only comic readers knew about them. I think that's the definition of "A Founding Father".
The fourth hero on the post-modern Rushmore would probably be Moon Girl really, her animated series just premiered its second season earlier this month and not only has that show been praised to death by critics but those Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur books do insanely well with younger crowds cause of those Scholastic book fairs.
I think you really missed the mark on Jon Kent. You praise Dwayne McDuffie for being the change he wanted to see in the world but then criticize when DC did the same with Jon Kent? Yeah, the stories haven't been great but you can say that about so many "non-woke" characters as well. The issue is with a lack of creativity, not an increase in diversity. Comics just aren't super popular in general because most of the tropes have been done to death and there is more money to be made in other forms of media.
@@Snavels Wonder Woman is popular lmfao. She’s popular with more than 1 generation. Miles morales and other marvel characters today are only popular with a certain generation. WW stands the test of time like Spider-Man,Batman and Superman.
@@keeferkifflom360 Just because she is *a* popular character does not mean she automatically gets a spot on that list. You know who else is popular? Captain America, Hulk, Thor, and Iron Man, and even then I still wouldn't say they deserve the spot. That Undoubtedly goes to Wolverine: Featuring in the highest selling comic of all time (X-man #1). Hell, 'Logan' was more successful as a movie than both Wonder Woman (2017) and 1984 combined.
@@Snavelswolverine is a bit overrated in my opinion. He’s great and definitely deserves many spots but the greatest spot? We’re gonna need to see more.
It’s Wonder Woman. She is just as iconic as the other 3 and people should start giving her that respect. She’s the only one I can think of that can go on here and people not be angry at it.
Gotta be Ben Grimm. The Thing embodies the legacy of Stan and Jack perfectly, while reflecting the weird beauty of the silver age and Marvel's history. Also he's already made of rocks
@@2kx62 uhh no? Tf? He isn’t as iconic to the 4. When was the last time you seen merchandise from flash that was on the hulks leave when he first had his movie. Exactly.
@@nobodyviews flash is far more iconic than hulk, Barry literally saved the entire multiverse while also making the ultimate sacrifice in the process. No body now days is saying hulk is there favorite superhero, flash has a wayyy bigger fan base than hulk.
@ Iron Man was still severely dwarfed by the Hulk. He only grew in prominence during the Civil War era. Hulk and X men were always the best sellers. Hulk had a cartoon and show was was seen by university students as one of the most influential characters of all time
I don’t even think that is it debatable whether or not Flash is the best legacy hero, he is. Starting off with Jay Garrick and then Barry Allen creating the silver age. Barry’s sacrifice in Crisis on Infinite Earths and Wally taking up the mantle for 30 years. For most people Wally WAS and STILL is the Flash. I think Robin would be a really close second.
Before watching the video.
In the 2000s, it'd probably be Wolverine, but nowadays, the impact of the MCU is undeniable, and Iron Man is the face of it.
Nope Ironman is not known in countries where hollywood doesn't premiere and elderly people doesn't know who he is, wonder woman will be in that place.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bfWonder Woman? Anywhere iron man isn’t known I guarantee you Wonder Woman probably isn’t either. Wonder Woman is NOT the 4th pick and it’s by a long shot
Actually
Nah it probably is
@@zvii7z Ironman is not known in countries where hollywood doesn't premiers ww does, Ironman is not known among elderly people ww does,Ironman is not cosplayed every halloween,ww does.
I actually thought about it the other day. And yeah no matter who we'll choose we can all agree Sups, Batman and Spider-Man are the big trio
We need one more marvel person to balance out Spider-Man’s scale
Cap,Wonder Woman,Flash,Sonic,TMNT,Ben 10,Anakin Skywalker(Jedi Anakin only,obviously) are all good choices for the fourth spot. And yes Ik TMNT is a team of heroes and not an individual one but I don’t think that really matters
@@darkarrow3683 Anyone not from DC or Marvel can't be on the list by default. Anakin and sonic are also not superheroes at all.
@@Bane520 But they are in their own universes
@@darkarrow3683they aren’t superheroes bro more like space cops
It's Wolverine, I just remembered how much that man was trending in the 2000's it's no competition
And Captain Marvel/Shazam was far more popular than Superman or Batman in 40's yet almost no one talks about him nowadays...
@@Ocelot835that’s because captain marvel was one of their earliest characters and superman and Batman had barely been established. Batman was created in 1945, he literally didn’t have the time to be established on par with captain marvel.
@@zzodysseuszz The hell are you talking about? First issue of Batman was published in 1939 and one year later we already had introduction of Robin, many of the iconic characters from his rogue gallery (Joker, Hugo Strange, Catwoman and etc), “no kill rule” and etc. During the WW2 Batman was so popular that they made movie about him in 1943, same goes with Superman that beyond that had his own highly successful radio play count in thousands of episodes and high-budget animated film series! Not to say that Captain Marvel was created only two years after Superman (and year after Batman), so the time of big duo popularity HE WAS THE ONE that have been barely established!
it’s not a popularity thing. invincible is the one. he’s iconic, popular, and we need rep for more indie comics
then by that logic mario and sonic should be on the list too@@bullymaguire7693
I like how batman, superman and spiderman arent even a question, everyone and their grandma knows them
This was a great watch, Got me nostalgic seeing who got to run each generation again & enjoyed your personal breakdowns.
And the last character you chose I can dig it haha Awesome work on the vid.
If you had to pick... which would be your 4th pick?
Didn't want to say Wonder Woman bc there's already 2 DC characters up there, but I honestly can't think of a better choice. It is what it is.
Wolverine since he’s the most popular x-men.
Agreed she deserves it
@Taitosalad wonder women is so iconic tho and solely original, i fw with wolverine/deadpool being up there
@@scumpergumpershe’s not as famous nor as popular as Wolverine or spider-man.
@@zzodysseuszz I think its more because shes more important to them.
Makes it hard not to include her.
Also hard to not include Wolverine.
Its gotta be Wolverine
My favorite Marvel character.
id say wolverine is grouped into the X-Men and to me the 4th spot is either given to Captain America or X-Men. either way you cant go wrong but to me Cap is the easy answer
Never liked marvel besides spiderman, but I did know and like Wolverine since I was super young. I recognized him more than even Ironman and Captain America. Thought he was super cool so I gotta agree but it's probably only cuz that. Only Wolverine and Wonder Woman makes sense to me
Him or Hulk
Nah I'd say cap should be up there more
Not including the FF in the silver age is a crime
F4 was my immediate first thought too!
F4 is a team not character
Which one of the four
Bro did not watch the video
Exactly I mean he put Black Panther in there that debuted in FF... putting the Thing or the Human Torch as a FF representative was an easy 4th or 3rd pick.
Superman, Batman, Spider-Man and Wolverine
All-Marvel: Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk and Iron Man
All-DC: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Flash
I'd argue Robin is more popular lol
I would argue Captain America over Hulk, but your picks are pretty danm good.
@@aaronlaughter6471id argue cap over ironman
Which Flash ?
@@Deadpool-mcu2024 obv Barry Allen.
I have 3 heroes for my 4th member of mount rushmore.
First Wonder Woman. She was the first female superhero and paved the way for other female superheroes and continues to be a world-wide recognizable force.
Second Wolverine. He is by far the most popular X-men and he was still very popular in the 2000's.
Third Iron Man. He started the MCU and after that became one of the most popular characters. And he truly had a good character arc.
U could make an argument for flash and hulk as well. The word speed is synonymous with flash. And and how many rage monsters have we seen thanks to the hulk
Ww clearly wins by a mile
@@hungryalmighty7156 True but the problem with Hulk and Flash is that they only had 1 movie. And Hulk's was already not that popular. And in recent years the raging monster Hulk has taken a backseat. And as for Flash i guess you could make that argument but with the CW show quitting and the movie having the worst CGI in history he isn't as popular as the people i just mentioned. Plus he is being used alot more like comic relief than an actual superhero. I love Flash but he just isn't as popular as Iron man, WW and wolverine.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf I'm not sure the popularity of the MCU kinda started because of Iron Man. And the popularity of Marvel was brought by the X-men and Spider-Man. And Wolverine is the most popular X-men so yeah.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf @Neericks.-bp6fc
Your entire claim more popular anyone beside the big is based on unproven and nonanecdotal claims about Halloween costumes and her being big countries that do not present Hollywood even those same countries who do not show hollywood liek china or south korea marginalize the position of women yet ww is huge there lol or your claims about elders who dont watch tv when many of them do with grandchildren and chidleren elders would know ironman hulk and wolverine but i guess you did consider this.
Your people are a joke you cannot even counter critically why wonderwoman if she is so popular has less success in almost mediums than ironman, hulk or wolverine based sheer data and numbers.
this not just movies and box office with her movies except ww 2017 being fails that underperformed , her comic sells less she cant carry 2 titles she does any solo animated series or video games to her name. Compare to wolverine/xmen or hulk who had abundance of video games animated series movies and biggest movie franchise in world in mcu there no comparison. even ironman being face of mcu the biggest brand in hollywood that global reach in most countries and popularized the superhero genre from obscurity has more impact than wonderwoman in last 15 years. Its sad fact you need accept that male heroes dominate in popularity in a industry that is targeted towards men as main consumer base not women.
Hmmm. This is definitely one in case in which... Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and... Wonder Woman, for me. She absolutely paved the way for female super heroes and continues to be a world-wide recognizable force.
Quick, name 3 of her villians besides Cheetah and gigantia
@@oldmanbiscuit7518 Circe, Ares, Hercules count? For Wonder Woman, while she may not have the Rogues Gallery as some of the others, I think that's at least in part due to her initially being a WW II Hero, followed by a television series that, much like the Incredible Hulk's, didn't focus upon supervillains but rather "real life" encounters and villainy. I'm just saying that Iron Man to me represents recency bias.
@@brentwerley6762 My point is, she just dosnt sell. Even at the height of her popularity(T.V) the books weren't selling. She's not a powerhouse even though she's marketed as one. I feel like giving someone a spot just because she did a representation would sully the spot. People know her sure, but if you went outside and asked a normal person "what would be the rushmore?", it would be batman,superman,spiderman, and the fourth sport would be Ironman,Captain America or Wolverine. Wonder woman is usually an afterthought. She's Aquaman or Green Lanturn grade.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518 I definitely get your points. It'd be interesting to do such a poll. I just look at all the examples of the Rushmore spots given in different categories, and I see a lot of men, let alone white men. I was in a training the other day and we were asked to name all of these famous geniuses and that's all we could come come up with. I'm not suggesting anything other than taking a second look as to why this dynamic may be so commonplace. I am NOT suggesting going in the other direction as the M-SHE-U has done!
@@brentwerley6762 the reason why it's all white men is because comics were created by white men and white men are the main demographic. Might not be who they want their target demographic to be anymore, but it's still who reads the most comics. Women think comics are too nerdy and the rest rather watch the movies and play the games, sure there's exceptions, it's still looked at as a white man's hobby. We're always going to pick who resonates with us the most, and surprise, it's usually the ones who look like us. Not that there's not great minority or female heroes, there are, but nomatter how much you want to try to get rid of it, humans will always have a bias twords themselves. When I say that, I'm not talking about a racial collective, I'm saying you will always have a bias twords you.
That fourth slot has to be either wolverine or Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman because she is the embodiment of female empowerment in comics, there is no female heroes without her. She’s basically the Superman of female heroes. And than you have wolverine the 2nd most popular marvel hero and the most popular x-men member
Female empowerment is not a quality same as spider-man being teenage boy empowerment is not a quality. Wonder woman sucks as a character anyways. She’s very sexist in the comics and it was even worse in the early comics, she’s also kinda a worse superman and she never takes the unbiased side of a conflict even tho she’s supposed to represent law and justice. She-hulk is a better Wonder Woman than Wonder Woman is. She represents law and justice in a better way, she was actually likeable in the comics and she was a very strong and intelligent and witty female character in almost all of her comics. Wonder Woman doesn’t compare. Wonder Woman just isn’t a good example and was never as possible as Wolverine neither.
@@zzodysseuszzproved you don’t know what your talking about💀💀just straight up lying😭
@@zzodysseuszz Buddy what
@@zzodysseuszz
Drop your Wonder Woman reading list mf
Agreed
it should be the hulk, tbh. he became internationally famous after the 70s TV show, and then the animated series came. there was literally no kid who weren't a fan of the hulk, everyone liked him. from the 70s to 2012, the hulk was one of the three faces of marvel. his comics were incredibly sold, just look at planet hulk and world war hulk. immortal hulk was literally the only thing from the all new all different era which people liked and cared to read lol.
That guy was everywhere to. Even on 1 of the old attractions in Australia before Ironman was well known. The 2 characters on the billboard was Spiderman and Hulk. Enough said.
i love him so much but its sad af what they did to him in the mcu
@@ppgod6989you could argue the DCEU versions of Batman and Superman weren’t very faithful to their characters either but the movies didn’t stop them from being iconic superheroes.
Immortal turned into political garbage though.
true, personally Id say hulk is 4th after Wonder Woman. Then Wolverine after Hulk
The thing is about the first three is you rarely have to tell them their origin story. Everyone knows krypton blew up, everyone knows uncle Ben died, everyone knows that Batman’s parents were shot in an alley. So that’s what makes them easy to put up there but hard for everyone else
most people dont know ww is a amazon or the daughter zeus or made from clay. more can hulk exposed to radiation or ironman man a suit then facts about ww
Everyone knows Captain america is a ww2 soldier
The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles origin story is known by pretty much everyone
@@harryrao4296 actually boths origins are pretty obscure. I'm more in favor of Captain America
@@katleangottago6421still ca
P box office and merch sales put him ahead of ww same with wolverine hulk ironman
It's easily Wonder Woman imo. Characters like Wolverine and The Hulk are massive, but Wonder Woman is still a top 5 iconic Superhero simply by her name alone. She paved the way for female heroes in the genre and she is quite frankly a contender for the single most iconic female fictional character of all time. She may not be insanely popular nowadays, but she still is popular and iconic. Easily fits the spot the best imo.
Wtf 😂 I've never met anyone who said wonder woman is their favourite super hero ! She only got popular because she always hangs out with Superman and Batman ! Her solo runs aren't as successful !
DoctorMinjinx being the most iconic female fictional charcter lol barbie is bigger than wonderwoman paving for female heroes is only reason anyone put her she does have media coverage to match ironman hulk or wolverine
not really barbie is bigger than wonderwoman being the first female superheroes you can biggest female and still not entire not entire the top 5 or even 10 quiet a margin outside of gender she no merits to actually be on the list especially when factoring success and popularity.
there is very good reason there no wonderwoman movies before 2017 if such huge ip hollywood and dc would have given her a movie right out of gate instead batman had 8 movies and superman 6 movies before wonderwoman would given her get cinematic debut,this tells everything about her importance to dc and her lack of fan following and lack demand for ww media compared to her peers
@@Savage-nv6wrshe doesn’t have to be a favorite to be an icon to be fair. Ask your grandma to list heroes and she’ll say wonder woman
I wonder what the Mount Rushmore of just female superheroes look like ? Besides, obviously Wonder woman
Wonder woman, catwoman, black cat and she hulk maybe?
Wonder-Woman, Storm, Jean Grey, and Lois Lane.
Wonder Woman, Black Canary, Hawkwoman, Storm, Jean Grey, Elektra and now Harley Quinn.
Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Black Widow, and Invisible Woman.
Wonder Woman, Storm, Black Widow, Catwoman/Black Canary
The first 3 are obvious. The 4th one is probably the Hulk or Wonder Woman, but I lean more in favour of the Hulk.
I’d lean on Hulk too because then it gives Marvel 2 iconic characters to go along with DC’s 2 icons. That and the Hulk was probably Marvel’s most famous character for decades next to Spider-Man (before the MCU too)
@@AkiraLionPilot Yeah. Both Wonder Woman and the Hulk were aided by their 1970’s tv shows, but the Hulks was longer lasting.
Its ww clearly
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf Not really. The Hulk is a valid choice.
I'd go Wonder Woman. Hulk just misses for me. Diana gets it IMO as she's a female role model.
HARD disagree about the Fantastic Four not having a stand out member. Human Torch and Thing stand far above the other two characters in terms of popularity. Demand for a Human Torch solo series was so high during that era that he took over Strange Tales for a few years. The Thing has also just always stood above the rest of the team in terms of popularity and that's reflected in the book as he begins to get more screen time the deeper in you go. I think there's a case for one of them to be on the Silver Age Mt. Rushmore over Hulk since Hulk wasn't an instant success but The FF just is the silver age incarnate. The early Hulk installments struggled to find an audience and his status quo varied from issue to issue as Lee and Kirby struggled to find something that worked. Hulk really gained popularity more in the bronze age.
That's just like my opinion though.
The channel gave a wonky history to a few different eras and books... I'd go with Thing personally...
If F4 are so popular why are their movies considered failures !
@@Savage-nv6wrBecause their movies weren't good. Superheroes aren't only their movies.
Could be I was the right age at the right time, but I had a MASSIVE admiration for the Thing. For me he represented all the awkward, ugly guys finally getting their chance to shine. Ben's fight against the Champion was one of very few times any work of literature got my eyes watery. The Thing *has* to be on the mountain.
Biased take as expected. Nobody gives a f about fantastic 4 individual characters
The big 3 are givens. Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man. That last one i would give to either Wonder Woman or Wolverine.
Batman superman wonderwoman and spiderman😊
The Wolverine disrespect.
womp womp
gwenpool got it pretty bad too
@@Stuffed_Trigger ROFL
@@JonO387 dunno what’s there to laugh about, gwenpool is pretty beloved on about any comic book forum you can go on
@@elidelorchan8965vir gin
I'd have Wolverine as the forth. For me it would have to be one of the X-men and Wolverine is the most popular. We had the explosion of X-Men comics in the 80's followed by the cartoon that changed the way superhero cartoons were made if not cartoons in general. And then it was X-men that really started the comic book movie boom of the 2000's. All the movie studios have said that X-men was the movie that made them believe in comic book movies mainly because of the effects. You had guys flying, shooting ice and fire, running through walls and people saw that and thought that cinema was finally ready to have all the heroes on the big screen. And that ushered in a new generation of comic book readers. So for me it's Wolverine.
Also Wolverine effect. When he become so popular that he was featured in every comic run.
Just putting it out there: Batman the animated series is both better, had a stronger impact, and holds up better to this day across the board. X-Men the animated had a big effect also, but NGL, there's a a lot of talking down that just comes from the X-Men franchise and from the show runners specifically that keeps it back and that Batman the animated series and subsequent DCAU shows just didn't have as consistently. Also, the last season of X-Men shifting production to the Philippines and the weird visual drop.
Ww is clearly wins
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf she clearly doesn’t win 🤦♂️😂 the mainstream didn’t even know her name was Diana until that terrible movie came out 😂
@@SonnyK248 Who cares about mainstream?She has more influence than any marvel hero,is most profitable female superhero in superhero history, people from isolated countries where there's not even electricity knows her, she's been cosplayed every Halloween and most importantly elderly people who doesn't watch mainstream also knows her, none of mainstream superhero have these traits except Superman and Batman.
Wolverine or the Hulk
I grew up on the early 00’s marvel movies & my dad was telling me everything about the X-men & the Hulk as much as Spiderman Fantastic 4 & Superman & Batman
I think the 4th one is Wonder Woman.
Nah
@@gangofheroescare to explain now?
@@weedies.sh1tIn recent years she’s not really that prominent
@@weedies.sh1t she isn't bootlegged to death by sweatshops enough nor were in the 90s and 2000's
If we’re making it even it’s either Iron-Man or Daredevil
It's 100% Wonder Woman. I honestly didn't even have to think about it. Diana is one of the most influential fictional women ever, and is a role-model for countless feminists across the world. There's no way we could have an all-time superhero Mount Rushmore without including at least one superheroine. Every-day people refer to women as their "Wonder Woman" for being their hero the same exact way someone would say: "You're my Superman!"
I'll give you a perfect example on why it's undoubtedly Wonder Woman-When was the last time you heard anyone singing "the Wolverine theme song?" Or "the Iron Man theme song" (although I have to admit the 60s Iron Man theme song is an underrated gem)? If we could put entire teams on here, the X-Men and Avengers would be up there, no question, but I wouldn't say a single member of those teams is as monumental as Wonder Woman. And for a "Mount Rushmore," the term "monumental" is key.
Think of it this way-The Superhero Mount Rushmore could easily just be the most recognizable individual superhero theme intros, and it would be the Superman 40s intro, the Batman 60s intro, the Spider-Man 60s intro, and the Wonder Woman 70s intro. It's Wonder Woman, guys. She was so insanely ahead of her time.
Because everyone let's be real with it, we cannot act like Spider-Man and Batman do not carry their universe without these two. DC and marvel would not be profitable and it's just facts
Oh, Marvel would definately be profitable without Spider-Man. Or are you forgetting about the MCU?
And, hell, if they actually tried, DC could be profitable without Batman. Just look how popular the Arrowverse got, without the need for Batman.
@@herowither12354 arrowverse is declining HARD,and i think he meant in the old days💀obviously now they can but back in the 40's-60's
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@@herowither12354 The companies likely would've gone under at multiple points in history without Spiderman or Batman.
Even today, while the MCU is wildly profitable, if you average out the MCU's total earnings you get about $912mil, whereas Spider-Man films (post 2000s) average ~$1bil.
Similarly, the DCEU average is ~$480mil, while Batman (live action) movies average ~$562mil.
Even with possibly the largest profits these companies have ever seen (via their cinematic universes), their #1 hero's, Spiderman & Batman, outperform the entire rest of the company.
So while these companies would probably be profitable in the current day without Spidey and Bats (unsure however, as they merged into Disney and Discovery respectively), the fact still remains that those 2 carry their universes
Editors Note:
The Spiderman movies I used were Maguire's, Garfield's and Hollands.
The Batman ones were Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney's, Bale's, Pattinson's.
I'm lowkey surprised this channel isn't larger with this quality content
Nah this list is ass
I feel bad for Kamala Khan, her 2014-2015 comic run was genuinely a good read and had pretty decent sales but ever since the Secret Invasion 2015 event put their titles on hold, being overexposed and the disaster that was Civil War II, Marvel is struggling to make the character come close to the success she had early on.
😂😂😂😂😂are you serious? That character absolutely sucks, nobody likes Ms.Marvel hahahahah 😂😂 haha good one!
@nothingisitchingme5874 There were enough who liked her to make her 2014-2015 series decent sales for a brand new character, it was only after Marvel overexposed her post Secret Wars 2015 and her out of character moments outside her title hurt the character appeals, which I already pointed in my previous comment. Not my fault you can’t read.
I wonder how the landscape would look like if Wonder Woman got an animated show like Batman and Superman did. That aside, it really has to be Wolverine over Ironman.
Everyone in the comments is saying it should be either Wonder Woman or Wolverine, when in fact it should be Mermaid Man.
Ngl, I’d love to see a version of this but for villains instead
most likely going to just be spider-man and batman's rogues gallery
@@unaxthorizedJoker is a safe pick, and Green Goblin too. The question is who gets one of the other two spots? From Sup’s gallery we have Lex, Zod, Doomsday and Braniac, but Lex is by far the biggest enemy of Supes. Not gonna even talk about Wonder Woman’s enemies, or any other JL member really. Other contenders from Batman are Scarecrow, Ras al Ghoul, Deathstroke and Penguin, but the second stands out the most. Besides that we have Magneto or Apocalypse from X men. If we go deeper into Spidey we have Sandman, Doc Ock and Venom, which are all top contenders. The only other two that are remarkable are Darkside and Thanos.
I would say that number 3 spot goes to Thanos, simply because of his popularity from Infinity war, which got its foundation from the Infinity gauntlet comic run. The 4th spot is for me a toss up between Lex or Darkside, as both are very impactful, but in very different ways. Darkside hasn’t received a lot of love recently, but every scene he is in he dominates ridiculously. Lex on the other hand is always a signal that something long and outstanding will happen over time and that he will always create an interesting plot point or twist.
I think I will go with Lex as he has had more scenes and more exposure to the overall media as Darkseid, and he is a way more interesting foil to Superman than Darkside, which has overlapping elements with Thanos.
I think it fits quite well like this, we have a genius who is the complete opposite to Superman in body and mind and has to make up with his human intellect and resources. Similarly we have Green goblin who is just as mad as intelligent, but also on the same level as Spider-Man. Joker needs no explanation and Thanos, who has a super mad and utilitarian plan to bring order, while also simultaneously being in love with death.
if we base if on the four most popular villains it would be Magneto, Dr. Doom, the Joker and Lex Luthor
I'd say Green Goblin, Joker, Thanos and Magneto
villains in general? vader is definitely up there
I love the thumbnail spiderman, batman, mystery character and fred jones
Fred Jones was put there to find out who the 3rd person is
I would say… Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, and Wolverine… solely on popularity
The 4th slot can be argued between Wonder Woman, wolverine, hulk, or flash. I don’t wanna say iron man cause solely for the reason of mcu recent bias
It's ww clearly not wolverine
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf keep telling without faulty logic when wolverine more and better exposure almost forms of media xmen outsell wb in comics movies video games and merch
Ironman was famous in the silver age bruh but nr.4 is definitely captain america @@hungryalmighty7156
@@hungryalmighty7156 yes mcu is biggest franchise world and impact popular culture more than or wonderwoman or flash or even hulk today ironman is a legitimate candite you cant mcu recent mcu been thing 15 years in 15 more impact cinema popular culture and superheroes in mainstream anything else and ironman is face and linchpin of that franchise
Feel like the Rushmore should resemble comic companies as we have them, Spiderman for Marvel, Batman for DC, Hellboy for dark horse, TMNT for IDW.
Love it love it I really do, but out of pure curiosity do you pick one turtle or do you just paint the mask in all of their colors, do you also add yellow for the fifth turtle or do you let the people vote on which turtle they should put up? Sorry to come at you with 1000 questions.
Its rock so it could be any they arent painted @sammysamiam5219
We're not including Image Comics?
@@zsmoove3108 it’s tough, but they are the turtles🤷♂️
@@jacobharper9236 but then how can you tell who’s who’s 🤷♂️
29 minutes just to not address the obvious answer: Wolverine
My first thought was “It’s obviously Iron Man”, lol.
You were right btw
hot take: Luke Skywalker
Hes not a superhero
Love how the thumbnail is like “yeah we all know Batman Superman and Spider-Man are here it’s just a question of the fourth fella
Ofc
Disqualifying Aquaman for existing is wild. He would for sure make most people’s Golden Era Rushmore. That’s so silly.
Iron Man really does make the most sense. His character on the monument easily represents the impact of superhero movies.
Except its barely a decade old. Shit doesnt work that way. Nobody gave a f before that
@@blackvalio4060 It was 16 years ago
You know, as much as I think it should be Wonder Woman this is a fair point.
@blackvalio4060 it was 16 years ago and his movie kicked off the mcu. You know? The thing every studio is trying to copy!?
@@Morallyimmoral1 so? we are ranking characters not a new movie. These guys have DECADES of history. iron man doesnt.vyou have no argument
respect to putting static in the modern rushmore. rest in paradise dwayne 🙏🏽
"Both masculine, and Canadian" that got you a like.
Damn, literally right off the bat that was exactly how I made my mount Rushmore. Dc Superman, Marvel Spider-Man, Image comics spawn, and Dark horse Hellboy
I think Invincible has overtaken Spawn by now. Plus Invincible’s suit is pretty much a mascot for Image because it makes the letter “i” which also represents Invincible and iconic which is what he asked for.
@@Drifter1989 I don’t know man? Trust me I like Mark more than I like spawn, but spawn was like one of the founding fathers of image. If there was any discussion about who should take up the spot, there are too many candidates to take over like savage dragon, Youngblood, witchblade, Shadowhawk and more and more but I wouldn’t be mad if Mark took over, but that’s got to be up for a vote or something
it's wonder woman
people are thinking who is currently more popular rather than who has had the most impact on not just the industry but pop culture as a whole like Superman/Batman/Spiderman
while iron man is the face of the MCU, his popularity is declining due to being out of the MCU for over half a decade now. He doesn't really have relevancy on the level of Superman/Batman/Spiderman outside the MCU.
also it's not about "being even" or saying DC is better than Marvel or Marvel is better than DC. Some people are only choosing Ironman or Captain America because they want 2 marvel characters and to make it "even", but the reality is that they were not big characters until the last decade. Superman/Batman/Spiderman have always been popular, relevant and icons even outside the comic medium
Wonder Woman has been the leading lady in comics since her inception, she is know by you own grandmother and she is the first character people think when you say "female superhero". She will probably always hold that status for as long as comics exist too and I don't see that changing.
user-iohj91p2d your argument is so flawed . When thinking critically your using feminism and leading lady as your main arguments ww being only leading due copyright issues not because hugely popular , who cares ,last decade even last decade since 1990s and since 1970s hulk and wolverine respectively bigger ww ever was both had movies ww multiple solo animated shows longer last tv shows and video games. you cannot dismissing the impact franchise in world is reason most people like superheroes for that ironman cap wolverine hulk are all bigger than ww as far general public are concerned . When ww has a few more movies under belt as well as multiple video games , merch sales and solo animated projects we can talk . The fact even before hulk and wolverine were bigger than ww and after films last decade cap ironman and thor made more of a cultural dent through movies and ensemble movies. Where wonder woman who's only relevant media one successful film every other film she been apart has been a disaster critically and finically.
i would you argue with me on this i bet youy cant
@@harryrao4296 dude hulk and wolverine aren't that popular compared to wonder woman..lol 😅
Especially wolverine
@@Neericks.-bp6fc and wonderwoman more popular how so? wolverine center of 10 + xmen movies has been center 4 xmen cartoons and wolverine moving soon with deadpool had video gaems more comic ties you accept wonderwoman bigger only 1 successful 1 film and tv show from 50 years lol
You’ve chosen wisely
Yo u got 1M
Holy Sh!t King Keto
No
Really smart of you to hide the bigotry at the end of the video
Superhero Mt. Rushmore is 100% Superman, Batman, Spiderman, and the Hulk. It’s not even a question, think about pop culture from years before the MCU even started. Hulk was everywhere and was easily marvels second most popular character
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Wolverine has a strong argument he has the same run as the hulk just doesn’t have the tv show lol so o give you the edge
@@tevincollins2869 Wolverine only got super popular in the 90’s and Early 2000’s while hulk has been popular since his creation. With a whole ass 5 season tv series in the late 70’s, a time when making a show about a dude transforming into a green monster giant was lunacy, but hulk was popular enough to warrant the venture. To me it’s not even a contest on who belongs up there with the big 3
Its ww clearly
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf if your delusional maybe
That was a pretty fun video. Keep up the good work
I feel like it used to be Wonder Woman but ever since around 2011 or 2012 it’s been Iron Man. As Iron Man’s cultural impact ever since 2008 goes outside of superhero movies or even superheros in general, the character changed cinema.
Ironman is great but ww is more famous than him, she's famous in the parts of planet where hollywood doesn't exist, she's been cosplayed every halloween and most importantly elderly people knew who she is unlike Ironman.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf even the oldest elderly people definitely know about Iron Man by now and I feel the MCU has the same global reach as say Star Wars where anyone no matter where knows someone about the series
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf mcu has a large global reach in all countries the only like central how ww has larger pull your only argument cosplays which plenty characters have and elderly people your assuming elderly people dont watch movies which outright false. You feet stand on about ww being more known popular or famous than ironman or wolverine or hulk especially when you look at wider commercially success those characters way than ww has. Like or not marvel is bigger dc worldwide not just first world in most countries know movies and cinema is , you accept ww is known dont electricity or water it most ludicrous claim i ever ever head.
even before the mcu wolverine bigger than ww in 1990s and 2000s when xmen dominated sales box office and cartoons
@@emperorofthecosmos4640 No my 90 year old grandpa and his elderly friends dont know about Ironman but knows who wonder women is
That was such a random rant during the Jonathan Kent segment. Bro really put emphasis on the boomer part of the nam
I think it should be Wonder Woman. While I love Wolverine Wonderwoman was a major influence on not just comic books but pop culture she’s one of the first woman superheroes and did “strong female character” before it was cool. While Captain America was a great influence on WW2 not only did Wonder Woman influence ww2 woman front atleast to my knowledge but it also inspired many female comic book reader and is so legendary she is considered the big three in dc comics with Superman and Batman.
again wonderwoman simply not popular enough as a hero being the first woman superheroe argument and anyone through her favor . when has been successful in her solo comics ? when has successful exposure of solo video games or animated series even her films outside 2017 wonderwoman were disasters , if claim to fame for wonderwoman she is a woman deserves spot that does account the legacy of media and cultural impact beyond gender
Yeah, I feel like it's gotta be Iron Man. Wolverine and Wonder Woman are so iconic that it's hard to leave them out, but Iron Man represents the MCU. And the MCU is not only the biggest superhero thing of all-time, but the biggest movie franchise of all-time. And the gap between it and anything else is MASSIVE
My choices would be:
1 Wonder Woman
2 the Hulk
3 Wolverine
I've never met anyone who said wonder woman is their favourite super hero 😂
hate break to ww is nowhere as popular as think she is Malisto925
right now hulk wolverine ironman all bigger than ww were living in 1970s anymore
Batman
Superman
Spiderman
Wolverine
WW over wolvie
If it has to specifically be a comic HERO, then I think you're right.
But if we were to make the 4th slot accessible to any comic book character, then the answer is easy, it's The Joker.
Someone I'm shocked actually doesn't show up is Jessica Cruz from DC for the Post-Modern Era, outside of Hal Jordan due to being Evergreen, she's started to become DC's go to Green Lantern, for what, 11 years of service since her first appearance, she's appeared as a main character in her own comic run, at least two animated movies, and a popular member of the DC Super Girls show, which really out competes say Silk for the fourth spot.
Also, Evergreen, that is really the term you've been looking for towards the end, Transformers fans coined it to being the eternal version of that character, and yeah, that describes how all we're getting now is rehashing of the same names and stories as they're the money makers.
Who tf is that 😂😂😂
@@Savage-nv6wrJessica Cruz is the 6th human to be inducted into the GLC as a recurring character. She got PTSD after witnessing her friends be gunned down by the mob and still deals with anxiety. Despite her constant fear she always steps up to any challenge, even defying Darkseid when she was out of power once, proving that just because we are scared that doesn't mean we can't stand up and fight. She embodies the ideals of the GLC through her constant determination to face her fears and represents those who struggle with what one might call invisible wounds or scars, mental health issues, and shows the strength they truly have despite their trauma or other issues. She actually had the power ring from Earth 3 at first due to her anxiety and though she no longer is controlled by it it is still present just as her trauma no longer controls her but is still present. love all things Green Lantern and she is easily top 10 members of GLC with Hal taking the top spot for me.
Who? I've seriously never heard of her before
@@mayro5741 I have a long comment explaining who she is from 10 days ago, just read it
I pick wolverine as the 4th spot hulk is not a bad pick
I agree with most comments saying Wonder Woman. She’s definitely pretty up there with them in popularity and when someone thinks of a woman superhero, immediately Wonder Woman pops up in mind. Though Wolverine is a pretty close though honestly.
again how is wonderwoman popularity up both her movies made less billon she anywhere same amount animated shows video games or comic sales as big guns ? rgkong8783?
most comments dont say wonderwoman
@@harryrao4296 bro do u just go around hating on ww or what it seems like all ur doing in these comments tbh💀
Wonder Woman doesn't have the animated shows or games. She's isn't as in demand compared to iron man and hulk.
Great Video! Pretty much agreed with you on every point. Even on the final pick. But to me, Hulk will always be the 4th member in my Rushmore.
Idk how so many people don't think its wonder woman cuz I really do feel she is literally incredibly well known by every generation. Wolverine is fair but I have always felt like Wonder Woman is way more popular somehow. It wouldn't be Iron Man tho cuz majority of those fans only come from the MCU specifically rather than any fans that were focused on the comics.
I love when small channels have a video go significantly viral to their old stuff
I was gonna get mad about Batman Beyond losing to Jessica Jones, but then you clarified they were made for the TV Shows, not the comics... So okay, reasonable.
Jessica Jones started in comics long before the Netflix show came about. She was introduced in November of 2001 in a series called Alias, which had the misfortune of having the same name as a TV series that came about at the same time.
@@gregbasore2108 21:01 we're in agreement. Batman Beyond and X23 were what this was in reference to. Not the Netflix show.
@@crazyJman80 Ah, right I see what you mean now.
To me, it makes sense to include super hero/villain characters that originate in other media on lists like these, so long as they stick around after being introduced into the comics.
By the logic used to exclude Terry's Batman and X23, a Mount Rushmore of female superheroes couldn't include the Barbara Gordon version of Batgirl, who was created at the request of the people making the '60s show with Adam West.
For jon kent I'd say they're doing him pretty well currently with these new comics of him
The fourth one is easily flash. Every kid wants to be fast as the flash.
Hulk and Wolverine have a case as well. I remember pretending to be either one of these back during the playground years
Ww is more famous and impactful than flash so its her.
Flash isnt big three in his own series. It's Wonder Woman, Hulk or Wolverine.
@@yashJoshi-hn6bf impactful famous how ? most like wolverine hulk ironman , thor or cap outperform ww every metric movies tv shows video games merch ww being known in third world countries that don't have Hollywood is few and far between. Those 'elderly people' dont films or tv is again far and few between your blatantly ignoring the exposure of mcu or any films tv shows elderly dont watch yet they know ww.
Even then most countries have access to Hollywood even third ones and the presence of mcu overshadows any dc in those countries. You claim ww is famous in countries oppress and marginalize women is ludicrous and makes you extremely ignorant of the world
@@gyronutz3043 its hulk wolverine ironman i have done a survey on this wonderwoman below all three them ironman especially in modern overtaken her
People saying anyone but Wolverine is wrong, pre MCU he was being glazed in the foX Men and post MCU he got 3 solo movies (Origins Wolverine 2013 and Logan. And if you still disagree…Deadpool AND Wolverine.
Mount Rushmore isn't showing the most popular presidents though. It shows the most influential ones who best represent American values.
Thank you for putting static shock in there love seeing Virgil get respect
Iron man. Without him mcu wouldn't exist
Not putting Wally West nor Jason Todd in the modern age as even an option kinda hurts
Damn you're right I completely forgot about them. My Bad
Wally is silver age. He was created in 59 as kid flash.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518 true but his popularity skyrocketed during the bronze and modern age
@@redwing6174 I get it, wally is my favorite flash, but was he more popular then the others? He definitely should have mentioned them.
@@oldmanbiscuit7518considering he was the flash of the DCAU its probably not that big of a stretch to say he may have been popular.
Superman, Batman, Spiderman and Hulk.
Reason I say Hulk is because he was very well known since Lou Ferringo, had movies during the early 2000s and starred in other Marvel characters movies multiple times after.
He was too popular.
Without those 4. I'd say.
Womder Woman, Wolverine, Flash and Ironman
wolverine and ironman are ahead of wonderwoman and flash again especially in 2024
user-e-1yb4jz1b wolverine definitely more now than wonder woman or flash same ironman they 5 and 6 respectively
@@harryrao4296 That's in no particular order.
@@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M realisticially hulk wolverine ironman cause mcu way bigger deals than ww or flash
Captain america > all of them
I'm pretty sure a supermans flight actually came from the Golden Age, 1940s Superman cartoon as a way for animators to easly have superman travel from point A to B rather than just leaping and running to places
I heavily disagree with the choice of Shazam over Captain America in the Golden Age mountain. The effect of WW2 on the comic industry alone should have put him on the mountain.
Spider-man batman superman and hulk
Those were he main four before 2008 and the mcu
probably wolverine, or a single generic ninja turtle representing all 4, although those became mostly popular due to cartoon and movies mostly, the thing would be funny due to being rocks
Bro fr said "alphabet people" 💀
Wolverine by a mile, many of us as children surely put either pencils or rulers between our fingers pretending we had his claws.
Wolverine is the namesake of the Wolverine Publicity trope for a reason. Marvel was literally putting him on covers of comics he doesn’t appear on or has a small cameo in. No way is Iron man over him on the Rushmore.
no way wonderwoman is above either ironman or wolverine
remember people when you look at wolverines helmet you see two batmans kissing
Screw it, just put Stan Lee up there.
Iron Man has always had that impact, it's just felt more thanks to the MCU, and since that's the case, i 100% think Wolverine got robbed here.
i gotta give it to wonder woman, she may not be the most popular but she was the first female superhero and inspired many female characters after her
again using gender your only argument just she is a woman does not her entitle to be in top 4 if had same success in media (games, cartoons movies and tv shows) then could yes otherwise nope
can you do one of these but for supervillains because a I think it would be interesting and just like the saying by Chadwick Boseman said, "A superhero movie is only as great as its villains".
It's probably Joker, Venom, Green Goblin, Luthor
Joker. Lex Luthor. Green Goblin. Magneto.
@@whathappenswhenimboredMagneto, Loki, Doc Ock and Doom are stronger contenders than Venom to me. Venom is too similar to Spiderman....
@@olharebelde Nah, Venom is too popular of a character to not be included. The list is really Joker, Venom, and then two others who aren't nearly as popular.
Joker, Dr. Doom, Magneto, Darkseid
I was born in 2005 so I didn't have much time before the post modern superhero media explosion, but from my memory as a young kid before the mcu and similar stuff really shot up, Hulk and Wolverine were insanely popular, definitely 2nd and 3rd of marvel's characters before the MCU put the spotlight on Iron Man and Cap (all of them behind spiderman of course)
in 2000s was hulk wolverine bigger than wonderwoman @FlamingFrostbite244?
@harryrao4296 I can't say since I've personally always been more of a marvel fan than DC and I was really young at the time. Wonderwoman is definitely the most popular female superhero of all time, so there's a good chance she was more popular. From my personal memory I'd say they were all around the same level, being just below superman, batman, and spiderman
@@Desmond_Video_Discussions again you still suggesting wonderwoman number 4 in today day and age ? wonderwoman being most popular female does not bigger hulk or wolverine 2000s let ask this what media did wonderwoman have back then? wolverine 3 movies xmen and mutiple cartoons hulk 2003 movie and smash video apart starring supporting character on jla what was there in 2000s for ww?
@@Desmond_Video_Discussions there no way wonderwoman bigger either hulk wolverine or ironman in late 2000s and early 2010s. All these characters multiple movies tv shows cartoons what did wonderwoman in this time? one animated movie in 2009 thats all being biggest female does not she more popular any those males when more success in wider media
@@Desmond_Video_Discussions why would wonderwoman pre be huge sure she is biggest female but in medium targeted strongly at young boys and men those male heroes like hulk wolverine and ironman in late 2000s were all more popular and had more successful media.
honestly 4th should be the hulk literally everyone knows who he is hell even my grandma knows him
This thumbnail is brilliant. It communicates so well what the video is about.
I think you’ve forgotten to mention that Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel’s first Volume had to be reprinted 7 times due to its popularity. 7 reprints are real big boy numbers, and usually only happens for X-Men or Spider-Man comics
Stop it
@@budgiecat9039 what
....Shouldn't "The Shadow" be considered as the final member of the "Superhero Mount Rushmore"?
The Shadow was THE #1 most popular superhero of the 1930's to 1950's and his popularity left a massive impact on all no power superheroes that came afterwards (Batman even plagiarized a The Shadow story for his first appearance comic and started out as being nothing more than a ripoff of The Shadow).
EX: The Shadow's nickname was "The Knight of Darkness", The Shadow used Yellow Bat shaped boomerangs, The Shadow used duo guns (Batman as well in his early comics), The Shadow had a villain called "The Grim Joker" who was a clown themed mafia guy that killed people with toxic laughing gas, etc
The Shadow was a superhero every 50 year old adult to 100 something year old knew and loved.
Theres a reason this character is best well known as the thing that inspired Batman
@@Chckster The only reason why that's the case was The Shadow stopped getting shows/movies by the 1950's and had to solely rely on his pulps/comics to maintain an audience.
Popularity is fleeting. Most people don't even remember the names of popular actors from the 1930's.
If Batman stopped getting Movies/shows/games, his fanbase would die out too in 60-80 years.
Making him a forgotten "has been" no one gives a shit about because they don't read books.
Hell in the 1980's before the 1st Tim Burton Batman film, even Moon Knight was selling better than Batman comics. Nobody really gave a shit about Batman until that Tim Burton film.
Most people saw him as a "bad movie" joke character thanks to the Adam West series.
@@RamsTheNameCom All this, yet you still haven't denied him being better remembered as Batman's inspiration.
No matter what you say it is a fact he is remembered as Batman's inspiration, nothing you say can change that fact. Likewise, I think, a character who is best remembered as an inspiration (By those who even remember him) doesn't belong on any rushmore.
@@Chckster Isn't Mount Rushmore a tribute to "The Founding Fathers"?
Shouldn't "The Founding Fathers of Comics" be the characters that had the biggest impact in inspiring the foundation for superheroes as a whole?
Stuff like Will Eisner's "The Spirit" who revolutionized the way comic books were drawn/written.
He's known as "The Citizen Kane" of comic book heroes, because all future comic books took heavy inspiration from how Will Eisner wrote/drew those comics.
They even named the comic book awards after Will Eisner.
The Shadow was the #1 first popular mainstream superhero.
Before him, superheroes weren't widely known to the public. Only comic readers knew about them.
I think that's the definition of "A Founding Father".
Bro ur like a channel that has like 100k i was so surprised when i saw you only had 521 im definitely subbing
Its wonderwomen, obviously
nice try and give aside she is a woman and we gender equality not because successful in popular media
The fourth hero on the post-modern Rushmore would probably be Moon Girl really, her animated series just premiered its second season earlier this month and not only has that show been praised to death by critics but those Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur books do insanely well with younger crowds cause of those Scholastic book fairs.
"Wolverine, a man that is forced to confront his grayest inconsistencies, being both masculine and Canadian." - Chef's kiss 👍
I'd say Iron Man. Now bro I ain't no mcu fanboy but you can't deny his impact.
Just his popularity within the short amount of time compared to the others up there shows how much impact he had. Ppl just looks at the longevity
Captain america had more impact
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Bp ww hulk and flash are greater
I think you really missed the mark on Jon Kent. You praise Dwayne McDuffie for being the change he wanted to see in the world but then criticize when DC did the same with Jon Kent? Yeah, the stories haven't been great but you can say that about so many "non-woke" characters as well. The issue is with a lack of creativity, not an increase in diversity. Comics just aren't super popular in general because most of the tropes have been done to death and there is more money to be made in other forms of media.
The fourth one is Wonder Woman
Saw this discussed in another comment thread, I just don't see it
@@Snavels
Wonder Woman is popular lmfao.
She’s popular with more than 1 generation.
Miles morales and other marvel characters today are only popular with a certain generation.
WW stands the test of time like Spider-Man,Batman and Superman.
@@keeferkifflom360 Just because she is *a* popular character does not mean she automatically gets a spot on that list. You know who else is popular? Captain America, Hulk, Thor, and Iron Man, and even then I still wouldn't say they deserve the spot. That Undoubtedly goes to Wolverine: Featuring in the highest selling comic of all time (X-man #1). Hell, 'Logan' was more successful as a movie than both Wonder Woman (2017) and 1984 combined.
I agree with him wolvie or hulk is the only correct answer
@@Snavelswolverine is a bit overrated in my opinion. He’s great and definitely deserves many spots but the greatest spot? We’re gonna need to see more.
All I'm going to say is Captain America punching Stache man in the face is more iconic than anything Captain Marvel did during the golden age.
I love these questions because it’s not about who’s your favorite, it’s about who’s the best.
It’s Wonder Woman. She is just as iconic as the other 3 and people should start giving her that respect. She’s the only one I can think of that can go on here and people not be angry at it.
i mean sure but uh... shes a woman
'iconic' is not creteria you consider media success name a time when wonderwoman even same league popularity as the other three?
Gotta be Ben Grimm. The Thing embodies the legacy of Stan and Jack perfectly, while reflecting the weird beauty of the silver age and Marvel's history.
Also he's already made of rocks
It should be Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, and HULK
was thinking the same thing bro
Flash*
@@2kx62 uhh no? Tf? He isn’t as iconic to the 4. When was the last time you seen merchandise from flash that was on the hulks leave when he first had his movie. Exactly.
@@nobodyviews flash is far more iconic than hulk, Barry literally saved the entire multiverse while also making the ultimate sacrifice in the process. No body now days is saying hulk is there favorite superhero, flash has a wayyy bigger fan base than hulk.
@@2kx62 hulk was popular first. Give my man his respect. If not hulk than wolverine. Literally spidey hulk and logan CARRIED marvel before anyone
You went crazy on this🔥💯
It’s always been the Hulk. Everyone knows the Hulk
Everybody know iron man too. And hulk and wolverine couldn’t make impact which iron man made for last 15-20 years
@ Iron Man was still severely dwarfed by the Hulk. He only grew in prominence during the Civil War era.
Hulk and X men were always the best sellers. Hulk had a cartoon and show was was seen by university students as one of the most influential characters of all time
I don’t even think that is it debatable whether or not Flash is the best legacy hero, he is. Starting off with Jay Garrick and then Barry Allen creating the silver age. Barry’s sacrifice in Crisis on Infinite Earths and Wally taking up the mantle for 30 years. For most people Wally WAS and STILL is the Flash. I think Robin would be a really close second.