There’s a lot more contention too. I felt like it was super easy when it comes to the heroes. Spidey, Superman and Batman are not up for debate. The fourth one is up to you. I’m seeing different lists by everyone here. The only constant seems to be the Joker, rightly so
Honestly I feel like Joker, Lex Luthor, Doctor Doom and Magneto is pretty definitively the correct list, I can't think of anyone else who could take anyone else's place here. The heroes MT whilst yes, it has a defined 3 quarters undoubtedly with Superman, Batman and Spider-Man, the fourth place is actually decently up for a debate, with Wolverine, Hulk, Flash, Wonder Woman, Captain America, you can make a pretty solid case for any of them. I can't envision an argument to get rid of any of those villains
@@tananatana4011 Thanos and Green Goblin are both debatably more known and impactful to pop culture than Lexx, Mageneto, and Doom. But it’s all debatable, than ofc if you count Venom as a villain he may also take a place, and Loki also has an argument lol
@@tananatana4011IMO Batman Can Fill the entire Mountain with Joker Roddler Bane and For the last Spot You Can Have Catwoman Mr Freeze Penguin TwoFace Raz Al Gual Poison Ivy Clayface Scarecrow all Iconic in there own Right I’m Not Saying He should But he definitely Could
I too hate that stupidly powerful bastard. The dark multiverse was kinda an interesting concept, but the Batman who laughs exemplified everything wrong with Batman, with all the most cringe parts of the Joker.
While I do like Dr. Doom, I'd argue he isn't as iconic as Thanos is on the modern age, especially after the MCU. Actually, if it wasn't a rule to include only Marvel and DC, I'd argue that Shredder from TMNT should have been on the fourth place
A great villain needs to be the perfect foil for the hero, the ying to his yang. Lex Luthor, who started out as your stereotypical mad scientist of the 30s pulps, has grown into the perfect foil for Superman, the polar opposite of him in many respects. Brain versus brawn. Merely human versus super human. Wealthy urbanite versus working class farm boy. Corruption versus incorruptibility. Egomania versus humble selflessness. Powerful elite versus journalist whose job is to expose the powerful elite. I could go on and on. And I love how Lex resents Superman's very existence as a kind of insult to human achievement, the kind of achievement Lex has exemplified. So, there's a psychological component to their rivalry. It's the perfect pairing of villain and hero.
Exactly, Superman represents hope, better tomorrow, but Lex is someone who completely misinterprets that lection. I always liked that Lex isn't overly cartoony egoistic and up his own ass, like Lex DOES genuinely respect other people, even if they're better than him in some way, because he appreciated and respects, to put it simply "the grind", no matter how much would he love to be number 1. Superman irritates him because it's a spit to the face, having someone who is automatically better than everyone BY DEFAULT? It's like a joke. Honestly Batman vs Joker and Superman vs Lex Luthor are such lighting in the bottle type rivalries, I can't BELIEVE DC nailed those two so well, easily my favorite rivalries in comic history
I wouldn’t say that. I would say that Superman and Luthor both represent America, Luthor the corporate and often corrupt(but frequently noble) side, and Superman, the idealistic, kind, and honorable people side.
Personally I would put Deathstroke in over Ra’s Al Guhl for the Bronze Age. The Judas Contract is often considered one of the best storylines in DC Comics history and cemented Deathstroke’s reputation as one of the most iconic DC villains. That’s not to say Ra’s never had great stories, but none of them have stood the rest of time to be adapted multiple times.
Ra’s pretty much peaked back then and then that’s really it outside of Batman begins making him more popular. He’s a product of when Batman was more “James bond esque” where as deathstroke is still MASSIVELY popular especially since Arkham origins … in fact I honestly think he’s too overused now
But that's the thing Deathstroke was too limited by the fact that he fought 13-year-olds. Ra's was always tested by the best of the best in Batman until he was kinda ruined by Arrow CW and TMNT/Batman.
@@FriendlyBatDoom Deathstroke was out throwing hands with some of the most dangerous, reality-shattering 13 year olds in the history of existence pretty much solo, Ra’s needed an entire secret society to fuck with one rich guy in a fursuit. Not even close on a power comparison.
@@2323stickboy Well that in it of itself is very villainous. RF is basically if Stan from Eminem's song became a supervillain and that's exactly why he's so dangerous
@@2323stickboyYour not wrong i feel in the future they should make him have a reasonable hatred for the flash and be like a dark brutal version of the character. I think a tv-ma or r rated show or movie would be interesting for him
Putting Venom on the heroes list but Harley on the villians list is a little silly to me. They've both spent the vast, vast majority of their history as anti-heroes.
Harley never would've become an anti-hero if Suicide Squad hadn't forced her to, she wasn't even part of the og suicide squad, they just needed a "big name" villain for their relaunch to sell
Doom, Magneto, Joker, and Luthor is the correct answer all time. Great job. All have spawned copy cats and have interesting depth and concepts to them. Darkside, Thanos, and Doomsday are evil for evil’s sake, which is fun, but takes them off all time for me. Green Goblin is off because he’s just another version of the whole Jackal and Hide thing with more Joker mixed in. Great video, killed it.
Thanos has become so fucking iconic for common audiences in like 4 years, that I think he takes off Luthor off the Rushmore just by the share amount of people that recognize him.
Darksied and Doomsday being evil (especially Doomsday) are meant to represent direct foils to the concept of Hope and that concept being embodied by Superman. Also Joker is pretty needlessly evil. Sure he’s got a “backstory” but so does Doomsday technically. He was killed a ton of times by his creator and made into a monster.
Doom is kinda my favorite villain ever, not only is he badass, but he can work not only with the Fantastic 4, but just about every other hero, in Marvel. He’ll always manly be a Fantastic 4 villain obviously, but he can also be an avengers villain, or a Spidey villan, every now and then. He’s just that flexible as a character, that’s why he’s the GOAT of villains.
Doom's legit my favourite Villian but the Joker is defo the Goat. The only person close to the clown, is Vader (which is funny because Lucas somewhat based Vader on Dr Doom). Doom is defo the marvel Goat tho, I'd say Thanos, Green Goblin and Magneto round out the Marvel Rushmore.
@@himum3429 "which is funny because Lucas somewhat based Vader on Dr Doom" I keep hearing this but what is the source on that? I can't find Lucas saying that anywhere and he mostly says Vader was based on some samurai esque design
I feel like Sinestro was glossed over here. From 2007-2011 he was one of the biggest villains in comics and was probably DC’s top villain for a hot minute. Not saying he needed to be in the Rushmore exactly but he should get more of an honorable mention.
It’s an absolute crime reverse flash isn’t on any Mount Rushmore he’s the definition of petty and evil and a counterpart to his hero flash makes his destiny reverse flash was made by his he will stop at nothing to make the flashes life a hell hes beyond death and time and he’s a frequently used character throughout all time he was in silver age and he still is today he was frequently on the flash and other cw shows not to mention meme culture and animated projects I’m convinced he would have made it in a big movie if the dc movies weren’t ass for so long my best wishes to James but still she should be there especially if Godspeed is
Honestly, some villains fit other heroes better, imo. Imagine if Galactus was the one who destroyed Krypton, or that Kingpin controls Gotham's surface just as Penguin rules underneath the city like in Batman Returns. Lex Luthor is iconic, but I've always felt that Superman constantly had to be nerfed (especially his intelligence) in order maintain their rivalry. Flash's rogues gallery has been praised for its variety, but most of them are quite random in my eyes. TMNT villains, on the other hand, are underrated. And perhaps there's too much team switching in X-Men.
Nah. Ock is only more frequent and has more stories. He is like that villian of week who keeps coming back. He has much lesser impact on spidey history then Goblin. Plus he is anti hero now for last few years as i remember so he is #2. When Goblin enters story u know its going down and somebody will eventually die, ock is lesser threat mostly
Honestly in my mind it has to be Joker, Lex Luthor, Green Goblin and Doctor Doom. Although Doom can easily be replaced by Thanos due to how much more popular he became in recent years
IMO Batman Can Fill the entire Mountain with Joker Roddler Bane and For the last Spot You Can Have Catwoman Mr Freeze Penguin TwoFace Raz Al Gual Poison Ivy Clayface Scarecrow all Iconic in there own Right I’m Not Saying He should But he definitely Could
@@senhor_errante I mean, how are you gonna have Spider-Man but you don’t have the guy that literally was one of the very first villains to literallywhen I mean, he beat Spider-Man by killing one that was something at the time that was never it on the hero never lost the girl I think green goblin should be up there.
Good all Time list. I think Thanos would be on on my list solely due to the MCU. He was the most hyped up villains of any comic movie, and was practically the main character of infinity war. Infinity war and endgame were also some of the highest grossing films too. Not only that, but the infinity war storyline back in the day was pretty big and I feel like after infinity war, he got put more into the spotlight in the comics. And now that Kang ( or probably doom at this point) is going to be the big bad of the mcu, I hear a lot of people expecting a lot from them is since thanos set the bar so high.
I feel like Reverse Flash deserves to be on here because of not only how cool he is, but how influential he is. Without a polar opposite character like him, it’s likely that we wouldn’t have cool characters like Venom, and Shadow The Hedgehog.
1) It's sort of funny that for like, half a century The Penguin was probably more known to the public than any villain outside the Joker or Luthor. 2) I think if you split up the modern age further, the Green Goblin would have missed a Rushmore spot. Osborn was "dead" for more than twenty years, those twenty years being some of the most lucrative for the comic book industry. While his legacy was felt (See: Hobgoblin) I think he owed his renaissance to the "back to basics" mentality that happened in the wake of Kurt Busiek's and Alex Ross's MARVELS. 3) When I was growing up, Sabretooth was sort of a bigger deal than Mystique. I think the movies definitely raised her profile, I also think it was the rise of the Gay Rights movement, where she was the one who most represented the X-Men's queer parallels. 4) It's funny, Thanos feels like he's an outsized impact due to the movies (And seriously, he's sort of become a verb in the larger popular consciousness) but because the X-Men and Spider-Man "silos" were more high profile, you forget he wasn't exactly asleep at the wheel. He got to be in the cartoons, he got to be a final boss in video games, I think he might even be the only Marvel villain to get a card in every single Marvel wide series (Except for maybe Venom, who you disqualified).
The only villain I am sure of that would make it no matter what is The Joker Edit: I love how the Villain Rushmore is equally divided between Marvel and DC with the DC villains being villains of individual heroes while the Marvel villains are villains are villains of groups. Personally, I would pick Goblin over Doom due to familiarity with Goblin but I can understand it.
Nah, goblin isn’t as great as doom. The only reason you feel that way is because goblin is a Spider-Man villain. Doom has had way more impact and could be placed on this guys list in every age whereas goblin cant. I love Pisderman and the green goblin, but what is a Goblin To Lord Doom
@@LooseAsADEUCEHonestly in anti-heros marvel takes the cake easily, the mount would be Wolverine, Deadpool, Venom and Punisher and even then you have more options like Ghost Rider, Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Blade,etc. DCs only candidates would be Harley and Red Hood tbh
Keep Zooming, mate! Well done on bot videos! Thoroughly enjoyed, discovered a few new ones, and each entry was properly justified (reasonably so anyways). Keep it up!
@@herowither12354 thats only because the Dr hasn't been done justice on the big screen give my man a director thst actually gives a shit and people will fucking love him way more than Thanos
Tough choices, but imma go with Malaceth from Thor: The Dark World, Joker from Suicide Squad (2017), Lex Luthor from Batman v Superman, and Deadpool from X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Villains of villains. The worst of the worst. The Rushmore of Infamy.
The Reverse Flash deserves his spot purely because unlike the other villains he doesn't pussyfoot around with "themes" or nonsense like that, he's the opposite of the Flash because his name says so and he has on a backwards costume. Remarkably efficient.
Yet not as iconic as the others, not as significant to their universe, and frankly, not as popular. He’s great, but it he isn’t an all timer great when it’s limited to 4
I think Dr. Sivana should have been in consideration for the Golden Age Rushmore. Although Black Adam is often considered Captain Marvel’s main villain in the modern day, back in the golden age that honour, without a doubt, belonged to Sivana whose appearance would go on to characterize our modern visual interpretation of the mad scientist trope.
28:15 Court of Owls. It’s the Court of Owls. Scott Snyder’s New 52 Batman run, has a far larger impact in and outside of the comics than Kull ever did. Who pretty much falls into the category as Anti-Monitor and Doomsday
A shame that there isn’t at least one spot that isn’t Marvel or DC characters, Shredder could be a good contender for that spot, or the Violator from Spawn.
Doomsday, Dr. Doom, Darth Vader (or Palpatine) and The Joker. I think some honorable mentions should be Darksied, Green Goblin, Lex Luthor, Red Skull, Godzilla (1954) and King Ghidorah from just about any iteration. There’s a load of other characters for the Rushmore spots and I just kinda linked the characters from all over there history. Can’t forget Transformers either, Unicron, Megatron, Starscream and Shockwave are all contenders
I think it's bc her inclusion was in the 90s when she was mostly a villain. I would raise the same point if she had been in contention for the all-time list.
You don’t read comics? Reverse Flash didn’t even make it on his origin ages list, he’ll even in the later ages he wouldn’t make it. He is not an all timer
If it’s 2 Marvel and 2 DC then it has to be Doctor Doom, the Green Goblin, Lex Luthor and Joker. All Marvel: Doom, Goblin, Thanos and Magneto All DC: Luthor, Joker, Darkseid and Deathstroke.
@@rangelsedits - Yes. He’s the archenemy of DC’s #2 superhero team, was their archenemy in a time when, not only were they at their most popular, they were constantly competing to be the #1 best-selling monthly book, with X-Men at the height of their popularity. He’s also responsible for the best Titans story, The Judas Contract, has defeated and nearly killed them on multiple occasions, has taken on and held his own against Batman, Green Arrow and even the Justice League and has made way more appearances in extended media, including one of the best and most popular DC shows of all time, the Teen Titans cartoons
This list is not good. Goblin is not a better fit than magneto by any stretch. Spidey is my favorite hero, and goblin is my favorite villain of spideys, but magneto beats him without question. I think the people saying goblin have some recency bias
@@oldylad Magneto has been a anti hero plenty of times and barely been a villian as of late. He is more protective over mutants and hates humans who are racist against his kind. He has helped the Xmen lots of times. Green Goblin is a VILLIAN and the first one to successfully kill the love interest and he is also the main villian of marvels number 1 hero Spider-Man
@Gamer_Wolf.well you could argue shedder because TMNT have appeared in some parts of dc and Star Wars has some connection to marvel. But that’s just what I know
Green Goblin over Doom is the crime of the century!! And the reason for it is bc the Spider-Man movie is better than the Fantastic 4 movie… I don’t think I could’ve even come up with a justification so absurd so you get points for creativity I guess….. WOW! You redeemed yourself in video. I have nothing but respect for you doing this. This is my all-time Rushmore as well. These 4 are just the best!
Nah this has gotta be just the DC version cuz there's no way reverse flash, or darkseid would jump ahead of Dr doom, magneto, venom, green Goblin, doctor octopus, or Thanos.
@@KKingTy03 Darkseid would 100% beat most if not all of those characters, he's recognisable, a powerful threat, he's smart, he's practically pure evil and he has one of the most over powered super power (Omega beams). Additionally he inspired Thanos. Reverse flash was the most influential reverse version of a hero, he went from one of the flashes biggest fans to his worst enemy and most importantly he inspired many other characters such as Red Hulk, Venom, Batman who laughs, Owlman etc.
Yo wtf when you say brainiacs got more name recognition than Loki, he's got a tv show and has been in five movies, brainiac hasn't even seen theaters before.
@@dc7981no. He’s fighting for mutant supremacy, which is what he doesn’t want to happen to mutants. An antihero is an antihero because they fight for a good cause through immoral means, magneto fights for a bad cause, maybe for a good reason, but he’s still evil.
Fun fact: The BtAS team was actually forced to include Bane into the series. They didnt like the story orBatman's defeat where they ultimately left him as a lesser character in direct response. Focusing on action
Deadpool, Logan, Frank, and Spawn and its not even a contest no one else really comes close to those 4 outside of I guess Red hood and Ghostrider....MAYBE Venom on a good day
Come to think of it, there are other candidates. Venom (that's a big if), Spawn, Blade, Red Hood, Ghost Rider, Elektra, Black Cat, Black Widow, Amanda Waller, X-23, Hit Girl, Emma Frost, Rorschach, Constantine, Judge Dredd, Gambit, Deadshot, and V.
You Should Do One That Excludes Marvel Characters, But In Turn Theres No Extra Eras, Its Just The G.O.A.T's I Can Already Name Two Goku: While His Morality And Classification Of A Hero Is Debatable, Goku Contrarily To What He Says Values Lives Over Fights, Always Getting People And Animals Out Of The Crossfire Or Taking The Fight Elsewhere, And Everyone Who Hes Fought Has Either Turned Good Themselves Or Were Killed And The Damage They've Done Reversed, Theres Also The Fact That Hes One Of The Reasons Anime Is Not Only Popular But Popular On A Global Scale, So Needless To Say He Makes The Cut. Doctor Who: Do I Even Need To Explain? This Guy Has Been Around Before Colored TV, And Most People Have At Least Herd Of Them.
Villain Rushmore is lowkey harder than heroes version
There’s a lot more contention too. I felt like it was super easy when it comes to the heroes. Spidey, Superman and Batman are not up for debate. The fourth one is up to you. I’m seeing different lists by everyone here. The only constant seems to be the Joker, rightly so
Honestly I feel like Joker, Lex Luthor, Doctor Doom and Magneto is pretty definitively the correct list, I can't think of anyone else who could take anyone else's place here.
The heroes MT whilst yes, it has a defined 3 quarters undoubtedly with Superman, Batman and Spider-Man, the fourth place is actually decently up for a debate, with Wolverine, Hulk, Flash, Wonder Woman, Captain America, you can make a pretty solid case for any of them. I can't envision an argument to get rid of any of those villains
@@tananatana4011 Thanos and Green Goblin are both debatably more known and impactful to pop culture than Lexx, Mageneto, and Doom. But it’s all debatable, than ofc if you count Venom as a villain he may also take a place, and Loki also has an argument lol
@@Aquadadragon loki doesnt have an argument but i agree abt thanos
@@tananatana4011IMO Batman Can Fill the entire Mountain with Joker Roddler Bane and For the last Spot You Can Have Catwoman Mr Freeze Penguin TwoFace Raz Al Gual Poison Ivy Clayface Scarecrow all Iconic in there own Right I’m Not Saying He should But he definitely Could
Lex Luthor has to be on here. I don't know any other villain dastardly enough to steal 40 cakes. That's as many as 4 tens, and that's terrible!
I'll steal 20 cakes and 20 more cakes
That's 2 cakes.. 20 times!! Evil bastard!
Nah lex isn’t that good
Can you blame him? He has a tragic origin. One where the hero creates the villain. He took his hair man
I agree
It's Joker, Lex Luthor, Dr Doom, and Magneto if we're arguing most impactful and meaningful
If it’s comics only then yes, if we included all media, Thanos would be the first on that list
definitely not first@@Neon1880
@@Neon1880nah second joker always comes first
@@Neon1880 vader?
@@nutbutton7678 I mean if we are talking outside of marvel and dc then yes, darth vader, joker, thanos, and Voldemort would be the top 4
You know who should really be up there? The writers for Spiderman
Fr, this needs more attention
Paul
And WB executives too
Yes !!!! Marvel thinks constantly making Pete’s life miserable is compelling so much bad stuff happens to him on the daily it become a joke 😂
Paul should be up here
Pah, Doom does not share his position with four pretenders. Surely this mountain should be Doom, Doom, Doom and perhaps a Doombot.
Did Dr. Doom hack your account?
Doom is the living embodiment of nah id win
@@Bredstikc IP address is based in Latvaria
...no
@@faeyzaihsanulfikri9975But 8n his case, he WOULD win.
@@mosquitopyjamas9048 I KNOW ITS YOU DOOM !!!!
Batman who laughs is a Post modern founding father
I absolutely hate him
Exactly my thoughts
Agreeeeeed
Nah he was like 2017? Not really that much of a founding father
XD ya
I too hate that stupidly powerful bastard. The dark multiverse was kinda an interesting concept, but the Batman who laughs exemplified everything wrong with Batman, with all the most cringe parts of the Joker.
I saw the thumbnail missing Dr.Doom and I was compelled to investigate. Glad you made the logical choice
The lack of Thanos chopper does not put a smile on my face
While I do like Dr. Doom, I'd argue he isn't as iconic as Thanos is on the modern age, especially after the MCU.
Actually, if it wasn't a rule to include only Marvel and DC, I'd argue that Shredder from TMNT should have been on the fourth place
Dr.Doom=Comics Fan
Thanos=MCU Fan
@@stevepensando2593shredder for when? During era of Turtle mania? Definitely. All time or modern? No, I’m sorry.
@@spiceweasel I think Shredder might be the most popular non-Marvel and DC comic book supervillain out there
A great villain needs to be the perfect foil for the hero, the ying to his yang. Lex Luthor, who started out as your stereotypical mad scientist of the 30s pulps, has grown into the perfect foil for Superman, the polar opposite of him in many respects. Brain versus brawn. Merely human versus super human. Wealthy urbanite versus working class farm boy. Corruption versus incorruptibility. Egomania versus humble selflessness. Powerful elite versus journalist whose job is to expose the powerful elite. I could go on and on. And I love how Lex resents Superman's very existence as a kind of insult to human achievement, the kind of achievement Lex has exemplified. So, there's a psychological component to their rivalry. It's the perfect pairing of villain and hero.
Exactly, Superman represents hope, better tomorrow, but Lex is someone who completely misinterprets that lection. I always liked that Lex isn't overly cartoony egoistic and up his own ass, like Lex DOES genuinely respect other people, even if they're better than him in some way, because he appreciated and respects, to put it simply "the grind", no matter how much would he love to be number 1. Superman irritates him because it's a spit to the face, having someone who is automatically better than everyone BY DEFAULT? It's like a joke.
Honestly Batman vs Joker and Superman vs Lex Luthor are such lighting in the bottle type rivalries, I can't BELIEVE DC nailed those two so well, easily my favorite rivalries in comic history
Lex Luthor😇🕊️💚💜☀️ IS Superman😇🕊️💙❤☀️ but evil.
Lex Luthor😇🕊💚💜☀ IS Superman😇🕊💙❤☀ but evil.
Exactly.Lex Luthor😇🕊💚💜☀ IS Superman😇🕊💙❤☀ but evil and Joker😈🃏🌑 is Batman👿🦇🌑 but evil. @@tananatana4011
@@tananatana4011 Exactly.Lex Luthor😇🕊💚💜☀ IS Superman😇🕊💙❤☀ but evil and Joker😈🃏🌑 is Batman👿🦇🌑 but evil.
Luthor being the American reality goes hard
I wouldn't go that far...
Luthor is trump, in the best possible way
@@tezmard3003 Luthor is a genius and a self made millionaire
I wouldn’t say that. I would say that Superman and Luthor both represent America, Luthor the corporate and often corrupt(but frequently noble) side, and Superman, the idealistic, kind, and honorable people side.
@@jstnsmutekAnd actually believes in what he’s preaching.
Personally I would put Deathstroke in over Ra’s Al Guhl for the Bronze Age. The Judas Contract is often considered one of the best storylines in DC Comics history and cemented Deathstroke’s reputation as one of the most iconic DC villains. That’s not to say Ra’s never had great stories, but none of them have stood the rest of time to be adapted multiple times.
Ra’s pretty much peaked back then and then that’s really it outside of Batman begins making him more popular. He’s a product of when Batman was more “James bond esque” where as deathstroke is still MASSIVELY popular especially since Arkham origins … in fact I honestly think he’s too overused now
But that's the thing Deathstroke was too limited by the fact that he fought 13-year-olds. Ra's was always tested by the best of the best in Batman until he was kinda ruined by Arrow CW and TMNT/Batman.
Ra's Al Ghul, The Head of The Demon👿🗡️🦇🖤💚🌑. He is such a cool supervillain@@billyboleson2830
@@billyboleson2830 Ra's Al Ghul, The Head of The Demon👿🗡🦇🖤💚🌑. He is such a cool supervillain
@@FriendlyBatDoom Deathstroke was out throwing hands with some of the most dangerous, reality-shattering 13 year olds in the history of existence pretty much solo, Ra’s needed an entire secret society to fuck with one rich guy in a fursuit. Not even close on a power comparison.
Nobody can match the hater energy of The Reverse Flash
Eternal pettiness
Yeah but that’s the thing, RF isn’t so much a villain as he is a petulant child, throwing tantrum after tantrum.
@@2323stickboy Well that in it of itself is very villainous. RF is basically if Stan from Eminem's song became a supervillain and that's exactly why he's so dangerous
@@2323stickboyYour not wrong i feel in the future they should make him have a reasonable hatred for the flash and be like a dark brutal version of the character. I think a tv-ma or r rated show or movie would be interesting for him
Putting Venom on the heroes list but Harley on the villians list is a little silly to me. They've both spent the vast, vast majority of their history as anti-heroes.
Venom has been an antihero in the comics since Eddie brock, Harley has only been an antihero since The Suicide Squad
Harley never would've become an anti-hero if Suicide Squad hadn't forced her to, she wasn't even part of the og suicide squad, they just needed a "big name" villain for their relaunch to sell
Harley is a criminal and a villian
That’s fucking stupid I was about to comment venom he’s one of the most iconic villains idc what anyone sees
Venom's time as a villian was trash. He looked cool but did nothing memorable other than show up. @@chrisville004
4:00 “with 2 of the most recognisable out of the way”
Joker being a clown
And lex literally JUST BEING A BALD GUY
Or Shredder
@@epicevanhogan6489Dark Vader omg He Could Have Put Darth Vader ( Kill Me I Called Him Dark Vader Crucified I Should)
@@Terrible.Animations.Studio Said only marvel and DC at the start of the video. Otherwise he would be a no brainer
@@Terrible.Animations.StudioI actually used to call him dark Vader like 8 years ago
Evil comes in two distinct flavors
you forgot the wall, the greatest spider-man villain to ever grace the page of a comic book
Thank you for not even bothering using The Batman Who Chokes on his Laughter and Dies in spite of him being literally everywhere for about 4 years
Doom, Magneto, Joker, and Luthor is the correct answer all time. Great job. All have spawned copy cats and have interesting depth and concepts to them. Darkside, Thanos, and Doomsday are evil for evil’s sake, which is fun, but takes them off all time for me. Green Goblin is off because he’s just another version of the whole Jackal and Hide thing with more Joker mixed in. Great video, killed it.
Thanos has become so fucking iconic for common audiences in like 4 years, that I think he takes off Luthor off the Rushmore just by the share amount of people that recognize him.
Darksied and Doomsday being evil (especially Doomsday) are meant to represent direct foils to the concept of Hope and that concept being embodied by Superman. Also Joker is pretty needlessly evil. Sure he’s got a “backstory” but so does Doomsday technically. He was killed a ton of times by his creator and made into a monster.
Red Skull?
I feel you should had included alcohol and drugs in the bronze age rushmore
Magneto is hands down one my favourite anti-villains
I completely agree with you.
Fr
Lex, the Jonkler, Gobbie, and Magnet Man.
There is the MT. Rushmore.
Doctor Doom?
How dare you exclude the magnificent DOOM. Only a fool would rank him at the same level as the others. Let alone be below. Pathetic.
Jonkler? Keep that Zoomer brainrot shit to a low thankya.
Doom is kinda my favorite villain ever, not only is he badass, but he can work not only with the Fantastic 4, but just about every other hero, in Marvel. He’ll always manly be a Fantastic 4 villain obviously, but he can also be an avengers villain, or a Spidey villan, every now and then. He’s just that flexible as a character, that’s why he’s the GOAT of villains.
Doom's legit my favourite Villian but the Joker is defo the Goat. The only person close to the clown, is Vader (which is funny because Lucas somewhat based Vader on Dr Doom).
Doom is defo the marvel Goat tho, I'd say Thanos, Green Goblin and Magneto round out the Marvel Rushmore.
@@himum3429 "which is funny because Lucas somewhat based Vader on Dr Doom"
I keep hearing this but what is the source on that? I can't find Lucas saying that anywhere and he mostly says Vader was based on some samurai esque design
Thank you
This video is cursed, hasn't this been like the third re-up of it
i asked him about it. RUclips decided to tell him it wasnt monitizable because of copyright after he uploaded the other two.
Dang that sucks
More shall happen
I feel like Sinestro was glossed over here. From 2007-2011 he was one of the biggest villains in comics and was probably DC’s top villain for a hot minute.
Not saying he needed to be in the Rushmore exactly but he should get more of an honorable mention.
Not even being included in the final roster for the silver age was crazy
@@wesbone5187 When I saw Atrocious getting on Rushmore, I was like, something’s not right here
I watched all 3 versions of this. I'm glad you fixed the audio. This video rocks harder than the hero mt. rushmore
I actually adapted the entire God Butcher saga and Court of Owls and Knull stories into motion comic movies
I watched the Court of owls video you made it was really good. If anyone here hasn't seen it you should.
@@boomerzoomerXD001gorr should go after trans ppl
@@boomerzoomerXD001trans ppl would support villains like gorr
@@boomerzoomerXD001nex Benedict the trans kid died
1. Joker
2. Doctor Doom
3. Darkseid
4. Thanos/Magneto
6. Galactus
7. Doc Ock
8. Green Goblin
9. Brainiac
10. Lex Luthor
HM. Deathstroke, Harley Quinn, Reverse Flash, Bane, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Starro, Bizarro, Sinestro, Black Adam, Doomsday, Anti Monitor, Red Skull, Mystique, Ultraman, Two Face, Ra's Al Ghul, Sandman, Lobo, Captain Cold, Riddler, Penguin, the Phoenix, Apocalypse, Carnage, Atrocitus, Red Hulk, Loki, Juggernaut, Poison Ivy, Trigon
Maybe Dr Sivana, AMAZO, Ultron and Sabretooth too.
Leaving 1 spot unfilled was a masterstroke of clickbait. I commend you for the video. On to the superhero rushmore
It’s an absolute crime reverse flash isn’t on any Mount Rushmore he’s the definition of petty and evil and a counterpart to his hero flash makes his destiny reverse flash was made by his he will stop at nothing to make the flashes life a hell hes beyond death and time and he’s a frequently used character throughout all time he was in silver age and he still is today he was frequently on the flash and other cw shows not to mention meme culture and animated projects I’m convinced he would have made it in a big movie if the dc movies weren’t ass for so long my best wishes to James but still she should be there especially if Godspeed is
It isn’t whether he’s iconic or more iconic than Godspeed, it’s his competition. Go look at the silver age and tell me he beats any of them
Imagine how a conversation between Frieza and Red Skull would be. I can only imagine the out of pocket things they would be saying.
U got a point with how one hero will have a whole rogues gallery
Reverse Flash *HAS* to be up there. That mf is downright diabolical
I respect you pick though. Cant argue really lol
your child will not recognize magneto as a villain, even in the x-men 97 show he'll be a (mostly)good guy
Honestly, some villains fit other heroes better, imo. Imagine if Galactus was the one who destroyed Krypton, or that Kingpin controls Gotham's surface just as Penguin rules underneath the city like in Batman Returns. Lex Luthor is iconic, but I've always felt that Superman constantly had to be nerfed (especially his intelligence) in order maintain their rivalry. Flash's rogues gallery has been praised for its variety, but most of them are quite random in my eyes. TMNT villains, on the other hand, are underrated. And perhaps there's too much team switching in X-Men.
Is it just me or is Doctor Octopus at least as iconic as Green Goblin?
He should be. When I was a kid I always saw Doc Ock as Spidey's arch-nemesis.
Nah. Ock is only more frequent and has more stories. He is like that villian of week who keeps coming back. He has much lesser impact on spidey history then Goblin. Plus he is anti hero now for last few years as i remember so he is #2. When Goblin enters story u know its going down and somebody will eventually die, ock is lesser threat mostly
Honestly in my mind it has to be Joker, Lex Luthor, Green Goblin and Doctor Doom. Although Doom can easily be replaced by Thanos due to how much more popular he became in recent years
My immediate thoughts
Good pick, but I still think Magneto is just a bit more iconic than the Green Goblin
IMO Batman Can Fill the entire Mountain with Joker Roddler Bane and For the last Spot You Can Have Catwoman Mr Freeze Penguin TwoFace Raz Al Gual Poison Ivy Clayface Scarecrow all Iconic in there own Right I’m Not Saying He should But he definitely Could
@@senhor_errante I mean, how are you gonna have Spider-Man but you don’t have the guy that literally was one of the very first villains to literallywhen I mean, he beat Spider-Man by killing one that was something at the time that was never it on the hero never lost the girl I think green goblin should be up there.
Thanos doesn't deserve to be on that Rushmore over doom stop the cap, he only became popular due to mcu films.
Good all Time list. I think Thanos would be on on my list solely due to the MCU. He was the most hyped up villains of any comic movie, and was practically the main character of infinity war. Infinity war and endgame were also some of the highest grossing films too. Not only that, but the infinity war storyline back in the day was pretty big and I feel like after infinity war, he got put more into the spotlight in the comics. And now that Kang ( or probably doom at this point) is going to be the big bad of the mcu, I hear a lot of people expecting a lot from them is since thanos set the bar so high.
I feel like Reverse Flash deserves to be on here because of not only how cool he is, but how influential he is. Without a polar opposite character like him, it’s likely that we wouldn’t have cool characters like Venom, and Shadow The Hedgehog.
1) It's sort of funny that for like, half a century The Penguin was probably more known to the public than any villain outside the Joker or Luthor.
2) I think if you split up the modern age further, the Green Goblin would have missed a Rushmore spot. Osborn was "dead" for more than twenty years, those twenty years being some of the most lucrative for the comic book industry. While his legacy was felt (See: Hobgoblin) I think he owed his renaissance to the "back to basics" mentality that happened in the wake of Kurt Busiek's and Alex Ross's MARVELS.
3) When I was growing up, Sabretooth was sort of a bigger deal than Mystique. I think the movies definitely raised her profile, I also think it was the rise of the Gay Rights movement, where she was the one who most represented the X-Men's queer parallels.
4) It's funny, Thanos feels like he's an outsized impact due to the movies (And seriously, he's sort of become a verb in the larger popular consciousness) but because the X-Men and Spider-Man "silos" were more high profile, you forget he wasn't exactly asleep at the wheel. He got to be in the cartoons, he got to be a final boss in video games, I think he might even be the only Marvel villain to get a card in every single Marvel wide series (Except for maybe Venom, who you disqualified).
The only villain I am sure of that would make it no matter what is The Joker
Edit: I love how the Villain Rushmore is equally divided between Marvel and DC with the DC villains being villains of individual heroes while the Marvel villains are villains are villains of groups.
Personally, I would pick Goblin over Doom due to familiarity with Goblin but I can understand it.
Nah, goblin isn’t as great as doom. The only reason you feel that way is because goblin is a Spider-Man villain. Doom has had way more impact and could be placed on this guys list in every age whereas goblin cant. I love Pisderman and the green goblin, but what is a Goblin To Lord Doom
Well, now it's time for the Mount Rushmore of...Antiheroes!😁👍
All-Time Prediction: Venom, Harley, Deadpool, and Punisher
@@LooseAsADEUCE That seems about right to be honest and I totally agree with your all-time picks.
@@LooseAsADEUCEHonestly in anti-heros marvel takes the cake easily, the mount would be Wolverine, Deadpool, Venom and Punisher and even then you have more options like Ghost Rider, Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Blade,etc. DCs only candidates would be Harley and Red Hood tbh
Keep Zooming, mate! Well done on bot videos! Thoroughly enjoyed, discovered a few new ones, and each entry was properly justified (reasonably so anyways). Keep it up!
1. Joker
2. Magneto
3. Dr. Doom
4. Lex Luthor
10 years ago, sure. But now, Thanos is definitely on the Rushmore. He's way more recognizable than Doom.
reverse flash?
@@herowither12354 thats only because the Dr hasn't been done justice on the big screen give my man a director thst actually gives a shit and people will fucking love him way more than Thanos
@@johnrockyryan So true. Doom is and always will be my number one favorite comic book character. I truly hope RDJ can do him justice in the MCU.
For me
1. Lex Luthor
2. Doctor Doom
3. Magneto
4. Joker
Tough choices, but imma go with Malaceth from Thor: The Dark World, Joker from Suicide Squad (2017), Lex Luthor from Batman v Superman, and Deadpool from X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
Villains of villains. The worst of the worst. The Rushmore of Infamy.
Putting Atrocitus before Dex-Star is crazyyyyyy
Dex-Starr's only confirmed personality trait is loyalty to Atrocitus.
i only really like marvel, i know atrocitus, but have never heard of dex star until this video
Without atrocious there is no dexter star
@@trolleymouseyou forgot RAGE
The Reverse Flash deserves his spot purely because unlike the other villains he doesn't pussyfoot around with "themes" or nonsense like that, he's the opposite of the Flash because his name says so and he has on a backwards costume. Remarkably efficient.
Yet not as iconic as the others, not as significant to their universe, and frankly, not as popular. He’s great, but it he isn’t an all timer great when it’s limited to 4
Lex, Doom, Joker and Green Goblin. That's my Mount Rushmore of villainy
Ah yes the villain Mount Rushmore, consisting of Lex Luthor, Magneto, Dr Doom and Jerma985.
I think Dr. Sivana should have been in consideration for the Golden Age Rushmore. Although Black Adam is often considered Captain Marvel’s main villain in the modern day, back in the golden age that honour, without a doubt, belonged to Sivana whose appearance would go on to characterize our modern visual interpretation of the mad scientist trope.
“Speaking of place, you might want to put me in mind with this next choice…” Love it
As someone who has grown apart from superhero media the last 5 or so years, your videos have given me a newfound appreciation for the genre
This is a based comment that I agree with especially with the burnout from the sheer content from all media sources.
@@orlandotill and the lack of creativity
28:15
Court of Owls. It’s the Court of Owls. Scott Snyder’s New 52 Batman run, has a far larger impact in and outside of the comics than Kull ever did. Who pretty much falls into the category as Anti-Monitor and Doomsday
My all time
1. Joker
2. Lex Luthor
3. Magneto
4. Reverse Flash (his pettiness is unmatched)
4. Dr Doom
In Superman 2, general zod, non, and ursa are using heat vision to make their own Mount Rushmore and destroying Lincoln.
A shame that there isn’t at least one spot that isn’t Marvel or DC characters, Shredder could be a good contender for that spot, or the Violator from Spawn.
I feel like the bad guy Mt Rushmore is easily Luthor, Joker, Magneto, Doom
I say Lex Luthor, Magneto, Dr Doom, and the Joker
i applaud this video
notably more objective and broader in scope than the heroes version just like you elaborated on in the end
Mystique was an odd choice. There's about 20 I could think of before her.
I was thinking the same, then he said she was more popular than Deathstroke and I was floored.
Green Goblin! That gives us 2 Marvel and 2 DC. Doom is also a strong contender, but would he allow himself to be put in with other Villains!
I would have included The Maker in the post-modern era Rushmore personally
I think Dr Doom and Magnito dabble too much into anti hero and anti villian too much to count, even though they are goats in terms of characters.
Doomsday, Dr. Doom, Darth Vader (or Palpatine) and The Joker. I think some honorable mentions should be Darksied, Green Goblin, Lex Luthor, Red Skull, Godzilla (1954) and King Ghidorah from just about any iteration. There’s a load of other characters for the Rushmore spots and I just kinda linked the characters from all over there history. Can’t forget Transformers either, Unicron, Megatron, Starscream and Shockwave are all contenders
I just gotta say, Harley Quinn is just as much of an anti hero as venom, if not more
I think it's bc her inclusion was in the 90s when she was mostly a villain. I would raise the same point if she had been in contention for the all-time list.
18:46 Please send me the names of all my fellow millennials who hate Jubilee. I would like to have a word with them *grabs shotgun*.
I would say The Petiest Man Alive instead of Doctor Doom.
You don’t read comics? Reverse Flash didn’t even make it on his origin ages list, he’ll even in the later ages he wouldn’t make it. He is not an all timer
No one laughs at Mr Fish
If it’s 2 Marvel and 2 DC then it has to be Doctor Doom, the Green Goblin, Lex Luthor and Joker.
All Marvel: Doom, Goblin, Thanos and Magneto
All DC: Luthor, Joker, Darkseid and Deathstroke.
slade over thawne?
@@rangelsedits - Yes. He’s the archenemy of DC’s #2 superhero team, was their archenemy in a time when, not only were they at their most popular, they were constantly competing to be the #1 best-selling monthly book, with X-Men at the height of their popularity. He’s also responsible for the best Titans story, The Judas Contract, has defeated and nearly killed them on multiple occasions, has taken on and held his own against Batman, Green Arrow and even the Justice League and has made way more appearances in extended media, including one of the best and most popular DC shows of all time, the Teen Titans cartoons
This list is not good. Goblin is not a better fit than magneto by any stretch. Spidey is my favorite hero, and goblin is my favorite villain of spideys, but magneto beats him without question. I think the people saying goblin have some recency bias
@@oldylad Magneto has been a anti hero plenty of times and barely been a villian as of late. He is more protective over mutants and hates humans who are racist against his kind. He has helped the Xmen lots of times. Green Goblin is a VILLIAN and the first one to successfully kill the love interest and he is also the main villian of marvels number 1 hero Spider-Man
For me its
Joker Shredder Vader Thanos
@Gamer_Wolf.well you could argue shedder because TMNT have appeared in some parts of dc and Star Wars has some connection to marvel. But that’s just what I know
@@Slick9562No the character have to appear at dc and marvel since the beginning.
Green Goblin over Doom is the crime of the century!! And the reason for it is bc the Spider-Man movie is better than the Fantastic 4 movie… I don’t think I could’ve even come up with a justification so absurd so you get points for creativity I guess….. WOW! You redeemed yourself in video. I have nothing but respect for you doing this. This is my all-time Rushmore as well. These 4 are just the best!
Court of Owls will definitely be explored more with Pattinson's Batman .. the Gotham series also touched on them
Hopefully
Before the video starts I have to call it as Lex Luther, Magneto, Joker and Doctor Doom or MAYBE Venom.
I called it in the community posts
I love the art style for the thumbnail, looks so cute
I 100% agree with the final 4 they are what I would choose
My MT Rushmore would be Thanos, Joker, Green Goblin, and Doctor Doom.
All Time Mount Rushmore Of Villains:
1. Lex Luthor
2. The Joker
3. Darkseid
4. Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash
You mean just DC Villians right😂.
Nah this has gotta be just the DC version cuz there's no way reverse flash, or darkseid would jump ahead of Dr doom, magneto, venom, green Goblin, doctor octopus, or Thanos.
No way Reverse Flash is in the top 4
@@KKingTy03
Darkseid would 100% beat most if not all of those characters, he's recognisable, a powerful threat, he's smart, he's practically pure evil and he has one of the most over powered super power (Omega beams). Additionally he inspired Thanos.
Reverse flash was the most influential reverse version of a hero, he went from one of the flashes biggest fans to his worst enemy and most importantly he inspired many other characters such as Red Hulk, Venom, Batman who laughs, Owlman etc.
No debe ser
Lex luthor
Joker
Dr doom
Magneto
14:07
The big bad that’s a rip off of Darkseid. There, I fixed it for you.
You’re welcome
0:02 Bad boy season 💪
Yo wtf when you say brainiacs got more name recognition than Loki, he's got a tv show and has been in five movies, brainiac hasn't even seen theaters before.
Carnage over Doomsday is unforgivable
Braniac doesn't want his head on a mountain. He just wants some pants.
My List:
-Magneto
-Sauron
-Darth Vader
-Griffith
Darth vader is such a strong villain that he should break the rules and be on the Rushmore anyway
im gay
Every comic made throughout your life be your childhood comic.
Because the childhood will never end! I see you pop into the video every now and then😄
Why isn't MF DOOM there
this video is great bro, it cool that you split the video into the different comic eras, anyways I subbed keep up the good work !!
Vader, Joker, Magneto and Voldemort
But if only Marvel and DC
Joker, Lex, Magneto and Doom
Dr. Doom, Lex Luthor, and Joker for sure need to be on there. Without those three it cant be considered legitimate.
Magneto doesn’t need to be? You underestimate his significance bro
Awesome video 🤙
Also can't believe Marvel's Dracula wasn't even in consideration. One of my personal favorite comic book villains
“Killer Croc. He’s a Killer Croc” 14:23
“The most aggressively 90s character ever created, Onslaught.” 19:03
yea i’d agree 100% these 4 are absolutely the best . Magneto is like an anti hero nowadays but he’ll always be the perfect villian for the x-men
Hes an anti villain which is why he works, hes an anti hero to mutants but a villain to the x men
@@dc7981no. He’s fighting for mutant supremacy, which is what he doesn’t want to happen to mutants. An antihero is an antihero because they fight for a good cause through immoral means, magneto fights for a bad cause, maybe for a good reason, but he’s still evil.
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Fun fact: The BtAS team was actually forced to include Bane into the series. They didnt like the story orBatman's defeat where they ultimately left him as a lesser character in direct response. Focusing on action
Mt Rushmore Anti-Heroes. Do it. Deadpool, The Punisher, and Wolverine should definitely make it.
Don't forget redhood
Deadpool, Logan, Frank, and Spawn and its not even a contest no one else really comes close to those 4 outside of I guess Red hood and Ghostrider....MAYBE Venom on a good day
Come to think of it, there are other candidates. Venom (that's a big if), Spawn, Blade, Red Hood, Ghost Rider, Elektra, Black Cat, Black Widow, Amanda Waller, X-23, Hit Girl, Emma Frost, Rorschach, Constantine, Judge Dredd, Gambit, Deadshot, and V.
Lex Luthor, The Joker, Doctor Doom and Magneto
Holy shit, That's exactly what he went with
The Joker, Darth Vader, Satan, and a Nazi.
In no particular order: Joker, Lex Luthor, Dr. Doom, and Magneto. Some can argue Thanos in place of Magneto due to his popularity from the MCU.
Nah, that’s a recency bias thing, magneto beats thanos overall
You Should Do One That Excludes Marvel Characters, But In Turn Theres No Extra Eras, Its Just The G.O.A.T's
I Can Already Name Two
Goku: While His Morality And Classification Of A Hero Is Debatable, Goku Contrarily To What He Says Values Lives Over Fights, Always Getting People And Animals Out Of The Crossfire Or Taking The Fight Elsewhere, And Everyone Who Hes Fought Has Either Turned Good Themselves Or Were Killed And The Damage They've Done Reversed, Theres Also The Fact That Hes One Of The Reasons Anime Is Not Only Popular But Popular On A Global Scale, So Needless To Say He Makes The Cut.
Doctor Who: Do I Even Need To Explain? This Guy Has Been Around Before Colored TV, And Most People Have At Least Herd Of Them.
It would probably be Joker, Lex Luthor, Green goblin, and Dr Doom