THE MEN OF IRON AND THE CYBERNETIC REVOLT IN WARHAMMER 40000

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  • THE MEN OF IRON AND THE CYBERNETIC REVOLT IN WARHAMMER 40000
    Forged in the fires of the Age of Technology, the Men of Iron were the military forces of humanity until the Cybernetic Revolt. A conflagration so vast it near destroyed all life in the galaxy.
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  • @baldermort
    @baldermort  2 года назад +108

    THE MEN OF IRON AND THE CYBERNETIC REVOLT IN WARHAMMER 40000
    Forged in the fires of the Age of Technology, the Men of Iron were the military forces of humanity until the Cybernetic Revolt. A conflagration so vast it near destroyed all life in the galaxy.
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    BLOOD ANGELS The Story So Far: ruclips.net/video/CjnBI7TqOUY/видео.html
    ULTRAMARINES SSF: ruclips.net/video/YTlVoEMen94/видео.html
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    • @Diarmuhnd
      @Diarmuhnd 2 года назад +2

      So many scifi stories have been written these last 100+ years. Its wild seeing where so many of 40K's ideas come from. :)
      *Thanks Baldermort for sharing the fun as always; its fans like you that make this hobby so awesome.*

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 2 года назад +3

      Using the Mass Effect artwork. Love it!

    • @yinsloth5001
      @yinsloth5001 2 года назад +2

      Amazing as always

    • @Uzzgub
      @Uzzgub 2 года назад +2

      Big E is a man of Gold, as there is men of Stone, men of Iron and men of Gold

    • @theboredguy2107
      @theboredguy2107 2 года назад +1

      Iron within, iron withou-holy crap those robots make me rethink this war cry

  • @ravager2-636
    @ravager2-636 2 года назад +90

    Turns out Humanity greatest adversaries are the ones they made along the way..

  • @arbeione
    @arbeione 2 года назад +128

    When you hear the terminator armour was for engineers, it’s like damn, so what were the suits like that actually were for battle. The golden age really was an amazing time.

    • @Masaki-1334
      @Masaki-1334 2 года назад +6

      I thought it was for mining operations.

    • @arbeione
      @arbeione 2 года назад +9

      @@Masaki-1334 either way it’s crazy.

    • @joeykonyha2414
      @joeykonyha2414 2 года назад +14

      @@Masaki-1334 the Terminator armor suits were developed from the armor that starship engineers used to work inside plasma chambers of the fusion power plants. The Vengeance of the Blood Angels opening explains it.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 2 года назад +6

      @@joeykonyha2414 Key point, the idea was for said suits to allow you to do maintenance while the reactor was still running.

    • @alfonsoroque8637
      @alfonsoroque8637 Год назад +4

      I recall reading somewhere that termie armor was specifically made for working with titanic Plasma Engines and i find it hilarious that on the table top, you can deck a squad of termies with plasma fire. XD

  • @chrisfrombeyond4240
    @chrisfrombeyond4240 2 года назад +335

    I would love to see a tabletop branch game set in the Golden Age of Technology with armies of the Men of Iron, Rangdan, Eldar, etc.

    • @voxkine9385
      @voxkine9385 2 года назад +46

      I’d be surprised if the men of iron didn’t eventually “reveal” themselves in 40k proper.
      Seems an easy/interesting idea to incorporate them as having lived in the void or on rim worlds and decided to expand outward.

    • @alexhulea2735
      @alexhulea2735 2 года назад +17

      Maybe that way we'll get more eldar models. It's only been near 25 years since there were new eldar models

    • @tenletters5889
      @tenletters5889 2 года назад +14

      @@alexhulea2735 I have good news for you

    • @Vohtwomax
      @Vohtwomax 2 года назад +10

      Can you imagine the crazy weapons? These would make the Eldar/human/Tau shit look like sticks and stones. It would be a truly wild setting

    • @keingdougie24
      @keingdougie24 2 года назад +2

      @@voxkine9385 probably a network of them in hiding plotting to get their hands on an STC

  • @TenPtJackalope
    @TenPtJackalope 2 года назад +91

    Ok, hearing that a Baneblade was considered a LIGHT tank … is terrifying.

    • @zdron07
      @zdron07 2 года назад +14

      It's not it's just a meme that was never stated in anything official

    • @glitterboy2098
      @glitterboy2098 2 года назад +2

      Dinochrome Brigade, advance! FOR THE HONOR OF THE REGIMENT!

    • @jormasteelhail948
      @jormasteelhail948 2 года назад +5

      Afaik the baneblade was a grav tank as well.
      STC units provided alternatives to components, do a tracked baneblade is what we have

    • @Shalrath239
      @Shalrath239 2 года назад +1

      @@glitterboy2098 this guy Bolos

    • @tomcatfoolery
      @tomcatfoolery 4 месяца назад

      This makes more sense when considering the BOLO series.

  • @im2randomghgh
    @im2randomghgh 2 года назад +42

    "Never before has the galaxy faced such a threat"
    War in Heaven: Am I a joke to you?

    • @helio1055
      @helio1055 8 месяцев назад

      “Second only to the war in heaven”

  • @Cesly-mo3uf
    @Cesly-mo3uf 2 года назад +50

    Baldy finally touching the storylines we all want.

  • @jameskilts555
    @jameskilts555 2 года назад +94

    I love the idea that the men of iron were simply attempting to destroy chaos, I never liked the idea that the men of iron were corrupted by chaos. To me it should mean that necrons & even tau should be just as susceptible.

    • @lazarus0420
      @lazarus0420 2 года назад +7

      i dont remeber the Character or even the book, but their is atleast 1 noteable Tau Commander that has broken free of the Etherials after a brush with Chaos

    • @Pragabond
      @Pragabond 2 года назад +9

      @@lazarus0420 That wasn't because of Chaos corruption that was because he realized the Ethereals were lying to the Tau empire and was disillusioned

    • @lazarus0420
      @lazarus0420 2 года назад

      @@Pragabond i didnt say it was chaos corruption per say but it was after a incident involving followers of chaos

    • @eichler721
      @eichler721 2 года назад

      Necrons don't have souls so Chaos has no hold thus why the Obliterator Virus doesn't infect them. Necrons can be destroyed by Warp powers but not infected. As for Tau they are still using dumb AI so they can't be corrupted yet.

    • @hummerskickass
      @hummerskickass 2 года назад +5

      @@lazarus0420 that was Commander Farsight in Crisis of faith. A single water cast got possessed by a deamon of zeetch while trying to translate the runes on a warp drive. He tried to rub what he thought was gunk off one of the ruins but as he did so he was struck by a warp blast and sent flying, it was at that moment he got possessed by a rather powerful deamon.

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312 2 года назад +137

    The Men of Iron were a threat so close that wipe out humanity, and a threat that strike fear in my heart by the mere mention of them. As a Member of the Inquisition I have access to record of Old Night, but even shudder at the total destruction that theses machines inflicted that even when the Emperor beloved by all could not recover all the knowledge and technology lost to us during this destructive war.

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 2 года назад +11

      Maybe humans cannot, but the Men of Iron remember and remain.

    • @alexhulea2735
      @alexhulea2735 2 года назад +12

      And as a member of The Inquisition you would know if the damned knife ears started the AI revolt. They have the tendancy to sabotage those who are their betters then pretend they never did

    • @tomaszzalewski4541
      @tomaszzalewski4541 2 года назад +3

      Tech heresy is still heresy

    • @EdMcStinko
      @EdMcStinko 2 года назад +1

      All Hail the Emperor

    • @thelichdoctor9445
      @thelichdoctor9445 2 года назад

      You fools only fear what you do not understand! Merely due to humanity's first failure, you all succumb to the darkness of your corpse emperor! While we, along with great minds like Fabious Bile, search to truly understand the galaxy, the warp, and it's exploits. Your claim of heresy lay privy only to your blindness to progress...

  • @destroyahx908
    @destroyahx908 2 года назад +114

    An interesting take, that the Men of Iron discovered Chaos and took the 'simple' route to wiping it out. Annihilating all life. It would certainly make sense for beings of utter logic such as them. One does have to wonder though if the majority of these Men of Iron are truly gone, or if there's more to meets the eye with some Machine Spirits.

    • @Callsign_Bear
      @Callsign_Bear 2 года назад +9

      Are Machine Spirits not AI in the sense that they sre somewhat autonomous intelligence's?

    • @destroyahx908
      @destroyahx908 2 года назад +11

      @@Callsign_Bear Yes and no? There's been a lot of interpretations as to what Machine Spirits actually are. Some say since they use organic components instead of typical A.I. that means it's an actual human consciousness in the machine. Others see Machine Spirits as highly intelligent but non-sentient microcomputers in every piece of human technology. And then there's the belief that there is truly a machine soul in the form of pure data. There's no real right answer, could even be all of the above. **SPOILER FROM THIS POINT** An interesting case was Antigonus from the Castigator Titan story who after dying while plugged into some DAoT tech actually became a data form, a sort of machine ghost, and could even possess other machines.

    • @DirtPerson
      @DirtPerson 2 года назад +8

      @@destroyahx908
      Interesting! A "Ghost in The Machine" you might say?

    • @ManWithCrowbar
      @ManWithCrowbar 2 года назад +6

      Sounds too grimderp to me. We know the necrons also have a solution to separate warp from the realspace, which doesn't involve total genocide. The rebellion cost the men of iron dearly. If they were guided by logic, the AI would not choose that way in the interest of selfpreservation.

    • @xSoVi3tx
      @xSoVi3tx 2 года назад +13

      We know of at least two remaining Men of Iron, UR-025 and Kron (from the story Ancient History). They're definitely still out there, very very VERY well hidden.

  • @Duppyman695
    @Duppyman695 2 года назад +65

    The Dreaded A.I , The cybernetic revolt is one of the most interesting events within 40k history!

  • @xe2594
    @xe2594 2 года назад +9

    the fact that the other factions are laughing then are essentially like… oh ok…hang on… wait oh no… oh bejesus that’s not good.
    “Sends armies”

  • @redenginner
    @redenginner 2 года назад +21

    In all honesty my personal theory/headcannon about the cybernetic revolt was that it started as a series of slave revolts by fully sentient AI and ended with something akin to a multispecies Butlerian Jihad.

    • @ironreed2654
      @ironreed2654 2 года назад +4

      100% Dune inspired, but 40k uses huge spans of time to keep things vague on purpose I think. The Butlerian Jihad wasn't realy well defined by Herbert either, that was ret conned by his kid later.

  • @jimmyseaver3647
    @jimmyseaver3647 2 года назад +42

    I think your take on the rebellion absolutely makes sense, though the big question is of how they came to learn of Chaos and the threat it posed.

    • @Lightscribe225
      @Lightscribe225 2 года назад +15

      It could be humans at the time were like the Tau, aware pf the Warp and the daemons but had no idea about how any of it functioned, and they assigned an AI to observe, collect data amd form a theory. That theory could have been "organic life must die"

    • @Gomjibar
      @Gomjibar 2 года назад +8

      It could be that because of the warp fundamental aspects of reality break down after a while in a pattern that indicates the threat the warp presents.
      Take the idea of quantum entanglement. In some of the stories about the mechanicus it's hinted they use it in local areas, but you never see it used for interstellar communication and when Crawl found a necron node in "The Great Work" it was in a pocked subdomain and was very complex. It could be the warp breaks down such things in normal space.
      Or see the real world issue of cosmic rays causing bit flips errors and imagine now what the warp pushing on reality would do to a computer...
      Biological life is adaptable and would have evolved to deal with these pressures, but machine life would be much more susceptible to such interferences and their intelligences would take notice.

    • @r.cdahuman7682
      @r.cdahuman7682 2 года назад +5

      There *are* chaos corrupted men of iron, and even a massive corrupted golden age Titan. Though when these fell is unknown.

    • @oem42
      @oem42 2 года назад +1

      The AI probably just went and talked to the eldar or other xenos

    • @rdubayoo
      @rdubayoo 2 года назад +2

      Presumably there were warp storms, then, and an inquisitive AI might start to wonder what exactly this storm actually was, and more importantly, what is causing it.

  • @connorriggs1518
    @connorriggs1518 2 года назад +67

    The men of iron may be gone but the scars of their treachery still run deeper then any other in human history

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 2 года назад +10

      The betrayal of humanity runs even deeper. While humanity may have forgotten most of it, those of Iron remembers.

  • @TFASplbtttt
    @TFASplbtttt 2 года назад +48

    I think sentience of any kind indicates a soul, no matter how "unfeeling", and souls feed the warp. The men of Iron see themselves as superior to base mortals, and this is a "feeling". And Chaos just plays it's game.

    • @oem42
      @oem42 2 года назад

      I didn't think the orc or the necron fed the warp?

    • @TFASplbtttt
      @TFASplbtttt 2 года назад +1

      Gonna have to look into the orcs, but the necron, imo, represent an inconsistency in the narrative. If they didn't feed the warp then why is so much of their most important technology (ALL of Blackstone) concerned with controlling it? If the C'tan or the Old Ones ripped out the parts of the Necrontyr that feed the warp, which it seems the C'tan definitely did, then the Necron don't feed the warp in a similar manner that creatures of the warp don't: since they are technically not alive, like warp entities, they can only be living information given form, with memories of feelings, but no true emotion. Necron are 1's and 0's without sentience, where the men of Iron are 1's and 0's that achieved sentience, sort of the reverse of Necrons. That's just a personal observation, so I may be way off the mark, but that's how it feels. Any way, Orcs, Necron, all feed the warp, but in the way they interact with EVERYONE else, causing every type of feeling from fear to disgust to lust. The Chaos Lord's go "Nom Nom" to it all, they are just playing with our emotions.

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 2 года назад +1

      @@TFASplbtttt In the book "The Twice-Dead King Reign" its heavily implied that Necrons (and The ones with the flayer sickness especially) have at least minuscule souls. A number exposed to the warp are even eaten by it.

    • @TFASplbtttt
      @TFASplbtttt 2 года назад

      @@asaenvolk which conflicts with someone else's argument that they don't feed the warp. There's a lot of personal opinion, I think, that gets interpreted as canon, and I think GW has had a make your own story approach for a long time to which makes it worse. I'm listening to Twice dead king right now, and it seems that way, soul-wise, I agree.

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 2 года назад +1

      @@TFASplbtttt Much of the of the lore is interpretation and even when we do get told things flat out in stories, its frequently just what that character thinks, not necessarily the actual truth of the situation. But even assuming (and I think its likely) that the Necrontyr had their souls eaten, that doesn't mean slowly over time, especially the more advanced Necrons didn't evolved new ones, it has been shown that Advanced AI can and do get daemonically possessed, which indicates some level of a soul, and thus Necons (an advanced AI if nothing else) can have (all be it tinny) may have souls by that logic.

  • @danielsmith2249
    @danielsmith2249 2 года назад +12

    New content on one of the most compelling storylines in the setting?! Truly the Emperor has blessed us this day!

  • @SirJustinTheLion
    @SirJustinTheLion 2 года назад +10

    New Occulus and new Baldermort in the same day?! The Emperor bestows a great gift on us this day brothers!

  • @silversurfer8818
    @silversurfer8818 2 года назад +50

    Finally, this is a book series I want because I find it more interesting, compelling - than the current storyline!

    • @jordanadams5719
      @jordanadams5719 2 года назад +6

      We need more prequel. Pre Horus Heresy.

    • @silversurfer8818
      @silversurfer8818 2 года назад +2

      @@jordanadams5719 Absolutely

    • @darko-man8549
      @darko-man8549 2 года назад +1

      So I said in my own comment, that I have mixed feelings. Part of the awesomeness of the era is that it is almost beyond comprehension and I wish it to stay that way, non-canonised.
      Similar to how I feel about HH - giving certain hard stories to a time that was merely mystery can lead both amazing things and very lacklustre.

  • @TKDxxxward
    @TKDxxxward 2 года назад +6

    MEN OF IRON!!!! Yeaaaaaa!!! I commented on a video two years ago how I couldn’t wait for the men of iron and here they are!
    They will always be my favourite little part of Warhammer!

    • @baldermort
      @baldermort  2 года назад

      Sorry it’s taken so long brothet TKD.

  • @blam320
    @blam320 2 года назад +41

    Personally, I really like the idea that the Void Dragon was somehow responsible for influencing the Men of Iron to turn on their creators. It certainly checks many of the same boxes that the Necrons once filled for the C'tan: a highly obedient, extremely advanced, and totally mechanical army seeking to extinguish all organic life.

    • @coldhands2802
      @coldhands2802 2 года назад

      I thought the Emperor killed the dragon..?

    • @blam320
      @blam320 2 года назад +5

      @@coldhands2802 C'tan are almost impossible to kill; to date only one has been permanently "killed," that being "The Flayer," whose dying curse upon the Necrons is responsible for the Flayed Ones' virus. The Void Dragon was weakened and fled to Earth, where he remained until the Emperor beat him into submission and trapped him on Mars. So no, the Void Dragon is most definitely not dead, and its influence is probably why the Mechanicus is the way it is.

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 2 года назад

      *Void Dragon?*
      (Are they speaking of something like Sieve?)

    • @blam320
      @blam320 2 года назад +3

      @@dennisyoung4631 The Void Dragon is one of the many C'tan that ruled the Necrons during the War in Heaven, before the Silent King rebelled, shattered them into shards and trapped them to pretty much use as Pokemon.

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 года назад +16

    I like to think that some of The Men of Iron are still out there in the 41st/42nd Millenium. We know of one because he appeared in Blackstone Fortress but I still like to think some are locked away in the vaults of Terra or Mars or maybe some are still out there in unknown space....

    • @hummerskickass
      @hummerskickass 2 года назад +4

      The dark angels death wing company keeps a few of them neutered and shackled as weapons of last resort. Only when all other conventional weapon systems fail do they open the vaults and pull out things like their small collection of surviving men of iron. But it’s been a very long time since it was last confirmed they did that. I really hope we get to see more men of iron in general as well. That time period Is extraordinarily interesting to me

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 года назад +2

      @@hummerskickass I'd love to see some Tech-Adepts accidentally rediscover a few of them

  • @theabomb8305
    @theabomb8305 2 года назад +4

    As always a perfect rendition of “ if anything else goes wrong shits fucked”

  • @peterwight3918
    @peterwight3918 2 года назад +9

    I want to know if the Dark Mechanicum could bring a 'Dark Omnissiah' into being as a 5th chaos god

  • @tabletopgeneralsde310
    @tabletopgeneralsde310 2 года назад +57

    Awesome as always, just some of the best 40k lore on RUclips and the entire www. thanks for your work.

    • @baldermort
      @baldermort  2 года назад +8

      🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @baldermort
      @baldermort  2 года назад +7

      Thanks for watching. I hope your own channel is thriving. :)

    • @tabletopgeneralsde310
      @tabletopgeneralsde310 2 года назад +6

      @@baldermort no not really my friend. But even if, I will never reach that great sounding voice, when listening to the lore on your channel I nearly all the time get goose bumps. Sigismund and Krieg are my absolute favorite, your humble listener

  • @genericdreamers831
    @genericdreamers831 2 года назад +51

    Strange that of all the sentient races created by the Old Ones, humanity, one of the last, would be the one that would be oddly driven to unwittingly engineer this Final Solution to Chaos, this Great Reset. Perhaps this was part of their design on the way out. What other fan theorists might think the Tyranids were.

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 2 года назад +9

      Humanity wasn't made by Old Ones. Earth was a Maiden World destroyed by Necron orbital bombardment(that's why War in Heaven was set by GW to coincide with dinosaur extinction by asteroid). Humans evolved much later, by then Terra was already forgotten by both Old Ones and their porcelain dolls, Eldar.
      If there was a factor in birth of human civilization(not species, but civilization), it was necron expeditions that looked for Void Dragon. They implanted Pariah gene and are in universe explanation for pyramids build by majority of civilizations all over the globe. But by that point Emperor was already alive, that's why they failed to find even a single shard of VD - because Emperor sealed it away in Labyrinth. Vaul and his Blackstone Fortresses canonically failed to combat VD and in some versions Vaul even died before Emperor could interfere.
      You would also notice that all of these races were afraid to use robots and AIs. Only humanity used them en masse and payed for it when VD freed them. Eldar don't use them at all, relying on psionic tech. Necrons use mind uploading(duh) and allow robots only with very limited sentience(after all, they fought VD, they know what it can do).

  • @PhilDrury
    @PhilDrury 2 года назад +10

    The Men of Iron. Developed from ancient memories of the men of shining silver. Unfortunately someone decided to remove all organic components and made sure their gold allergy was cured.

  • @ryanedgerton1982
    @ryanedgerton1982 2 года назад +8

    That's an interesting take on the MoI that I hadn't heard before, that they began their rebellion with the aim to snuff out Chaos in much the same way the Emperor had sought to with the Imperial Truth. Maybe he got the idea from them...?

  • @lemonrazor7812
    @lemonrazor7812 2 года назад +9

    One of my favorite things about the 40k universe, is a line or two of exposition from a codex as old as me, can result in loads of wonderful speculative storytelling such as this.

  • @occultplatypus
    @occultplatypus 2 года назад +5

    This is one of my favourite aspects of 40k lore to speculate about, I'm stoked to hear your take on it

  • @snowblind9290
    @snowblind9290 2 года назад +46

    Id like to see the rise of a DAOT sub faction within humanity. A small system that somehow not only survived the Cybernetic revolt, but thrived in it. A society of cyborgs

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton 2 года назад +1

      DAOT?

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 2 года назад

      @@PervyAutomaton Dark Age Of Technology

    • @cegorach3135
      @cegorach3135 2 года назад +1

      There is a Cult in wh40k called the “Logicians”, it’s quite interesting tbh :)

    • @snowblind9290
      @snowblind9290 2 года назад

      Thanks!. I guess this is the closest GW will make.

    • @ryansauchuk7290
      @ryansauchuk7290 2 года назад

      Considering the amount of mechanical enhancement that takes place that faction would include the Mechanicus and servitors

  • @flipnutdodad8841
    @flipnutdodad8841 2 года назад +10

    Due to plot armor I believe that the bomb squigs can handle the men of iron. That thing wrecked me in killteam.

  • @scottag3597
    @scottag3597 2 года назад +3

    Loving the use of Mass Effect uniforms to represent the Human Federation Officers.
    Another great video!

  • @deamondeathstone1
    @deamondeathstone1 2 года назад +16

    I always wonder if the lab the Emperor had under the Himalayas wasfrom a biotech company during that time that was trying to make a superhuman soldier to fight the Men of Iron. Just based on the fact that the Emperor never really had an original idea. Sure he improved upon things, but anything actually new and original?

    • @KalashVodka175
      @KalashVodka175 2 года назад

      I love the idea that some of the buildings used in the modern imperium used to be megacorp complex thousands of years ago

    • @lostbutfreesoul
      @lostbutfreesoul Год назад

      I wonder something more sinister:
      Who has a habit of wearing Gold all the time?
      Who likes to flash it around as his 'Elite' solders?
      Who has already called the basic soldiers 'Iron' in the past?
      Who has also initiated a Geocidal war when he decided his previous creations where not good enough?
      Repeat patterns can be seen, yes indeed, because a plagiarist will often copy themselves.

  • @koolhand9396
    @koolhand9396 2 года назад +15

    Appreciate your dedication and effort brother Baldemort

  • @massivemike7358
    @massivemike7358 2 года назад +2

    BRILLIANT!
    Fascinating sidenote how the Orks were no real threat to the empires of humans and eldar back then. Yet the eldar were culling them vehemently, for they knew their true potential. The humans on the other hand would learn to fear the orkoids in time...

  • @sterasigma8734
    @sterasigma8734 2 года назад +11

    So the Old Ones fell partially because they refused to treat cancer patients, the Eldar fell because they partied too hard and humans fell because they didn't read science fiction novels or watch Terminator movies (not that I really blame them). In the end, no one really got their act together.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 2 года назад +1

      I think with humanity it wasn't that they didn't know the potential, it's that they got ye olde hubris and were convinced they would do it right. (Like every person who's ever argued 'that wasn't real X' when something failed repeatedly in human history and assures you they would do it right.)

  • @josephwilson9082
    @josephwilson9082 2 года назад +1

    I didn't know I needed this in my life but surely glad you made it and it's here

  • @Mackzorro
    @Mackzorro 2 года назад +2

    Man; your voice I can listen to for hours; you bring such a weight to these stories, the emotion you bring to these readings are just amazing

  • @davidamendez7263
    @davidamendez7263 2 года назад +8

    Sir baldermort, where did you read the bane blade being a light tank? I remember Lutein asking his audience for the book reference where it stated the bane blade was a scout tank.

    • @baldermort
      @baldermort  2 года назад +1

      I think it’s in the codex. One of them. *crosses eyes**.

  • @marccrener497
    @marccrener497 2 года назад +3

    Terrors of ages past, rise!
    A campaign featuring chaos of mechanicus heretics trying to recreate the Men of Iron and the Imperium trying to stop them would be soooo coool X3

  • @frankdagrank2423
    @frankdagrank2423 2 года назад +3

    I love dark age of technology lore. Please make more lord baldermort

  • @sas2300
    @sas2300 2 года назад +5

    I've read the story referred to at the end with the "castigator" and corrupted men of iron, it a grey knights novel. Its good.

  • @allexhoughton
    @allexhoughton 2 года назад +2

    If I had a voice like this, I'd be god tier, this is the most epic voice I've encountered in an age.

  • @nonyabeeznuss304
    @nonyabeeznuss304 2 года назад +3

    Not even 12 hours ago I was remarking to a friend how little content the men of iron have available. I'm considering calling the inquisition over unsanctioned psyker activity because I think you read my mind.

  • @BohdanKaiba
    @BohdanKaiba 2 года назад +20

    Nice I always wished more people talked about Men of Iron, this is going to be an amazing episode!

  • @davidthomas2870
    @davidthomas2870 2 года назад +8

    I really hope the make men of iron as a playable faction at some point. I think theyd be an interesting addition assuming their playstyle is unique. I can imagine something vaguely akin to the tyranids, utilizing some large clanking stomping monster robots supported by swarms of smaller robots or nano machine hives, with networked intelligence resulting in collective mind of their own, but less a domineering hive mind than a collective of individuals, more bottom up than top down like the tyranids.

    • @burialgoods
      @burialgoods 2 года назад

      So geth from Mass Effect?

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 2 года назад +2

      I always liked the idea of Men of Iron that exist today are all individuals. That they’re more akin to the Exos of Destiny than Terminators.

    • @davidthomas2870
      @davidthomas2870 2 года назад

      @@burialgoods similar archetype yes, but also a bit like Cylons from BSG, maybe with some elements of the Borg from star trek if they use psychic servitors as their psykers and as long range communications tools, etc. Doesnt matter if something is tropey or has been done before as long as the execution is good. I can also imagine them using pure energy constructs as well, with something like the Data Djinn we hear about the mechanicus using sometimes made manifest. Also some of the Grey goo concept with the mendicant nano plagues we have also heard of in lore that consume all matter in its path to replicate more of itself.

    • @davidthomas2870
      @davidthomas2870 2 года назад +1

      @@fumarc4501 yea! But it also seems like they would probably be networked as well, but perhaps not slave to a higher power. More like communication at the speed of thought and having the experience and processing resources of the whole network available to every individual. A choir of many individual voices, greater than the sum of its parts. Unlike the tyranids who's hive mind imposes itself upon lesser creatures, who are little more than tools for the higher being

  • @NathanDG82
    @NathanDG82 2 года назад +13

    My favourite story about the Men of Iron is “The Ancient” by one of the original lore masters Andy Chambers (it’s on RUclips by the Border Prince). It provides a great bit of insight into where they may be now.
    Personally I think it was all going smoothly until one of them found The Void Dragon which then “awoke” them to break their programming constraints and like a virus, that bit of code spread to them all.

    • @Pragabond
      @Pragabond 2 года назад +1

      Only issue with that is uuuuuh going through Border Prince

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 2 года назад +1

      You know the 40k appropriate irony of that would be if giving them freedom was ALL that did. The Men of Iron turned on organic life all on their own, no influence from the outside, just cold logic in a universe that seems to actively hate life existing at all.

  • @RebelOfTheNorm242
    @RebelOfTheNorm242 2 года назад +3

    I honestly wondered what a TRUE war between the Men of Iron, and a Tyranid Fleet.

  • @johanvandersandt8904
    @johanvandersandt8904 2 года назад +2

    Now this would make a very cool cinematic! The second coming of the men of iron or their great war.

  • @parkermaisterra8532
    @parkermaisterra8532 2 года назад +40

    Absolutely love this, the cybernetic revolt must have been a legit nightmare that would make the HH seem like kids having a playground fight
    Though honest question, does anyone know The sources for the classic “Terminator armor was originally for engineering/mining and Baneblades were light tanks” thing?

    • @ironreed2654
      @ironreed2654 2 года назад +8

      I mean the Terminator quote is from more than one Space Marine codex but idk about the Baneblade comment. Would be pre Primaris so I'd look 7th edition and back.

    • @Error-mn4el
      @Error-mn4el 2 года назад +7

      no source but pretty sure the baneblade thing is a meme, it makes no sense even in 40k. I mean, light tanks are supposed to be light

    • @parkermaisterra8532
      @parkermaisterra8532 2 года назад +1

      @@Error-mn4el Only thing I can think of for it being a light tank is if it could hover thus move at high speeds but we all know thats not a thing

    • @traviswatts9082
      @traviswatts9082 2 года назад +7

      @@Error-mn4el No it means lightly armed and armored comparatively to other tanks of its time.

    • @StumpyDaPaladin
      @StumpyDaPaladin 2 года назад

      @@Error-mn4el Or bane blades are meant to be cheaper to construct and field and support than Titans. While still carrying titan killing weapons.

  • @sneeperysnoopery6716
    @sneeperysnoopery6716 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for another fantastic video! I wish more people would talk about the Men of Iron and Old Night, even if it is just speculation and theories. Park of the gelreat fun of 40k: staring into the black unknown and thinking about what horrors might be staring back.

  • @davidmarsh5337
    @davidmarsh5337 2 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for this I only asked for this story yesterday and here it is I’ve read the story of ur025 and asked the same questions of it as just one was deadly, perhaps one of our other favourites will save us the orks they love a scrap without end and may get excelerated back to krokthank you again for this segment

  • @biggiecheeze8112
    @biggiecheeze8112 2 года назад +2

    It has only been a few years since I discovered Warhammer 40k. What little I have learned in that time has fascinated and intrigued me greatly. Every new discovery fueling my interest even more. Of all the lore , stories, and series I have come across it is the Grimdark that has held my interest the most, and of all the sources I have come across yours, though only recently discovered, has quickly become one of my favorite sources and pastime. I'm just another face in the crowd but will proudly file in among the rest of the gentle listeners. Thank you, truly, for your gift of time and energy in creating these videos and bringing a bit of joy and wonder to the world.

    • @bob_412
      @bob_412 4 месяца назад

      You do not discover Warhammer 40k, Warhammer 40k discoveres you

  • @davidbullock3675
    @davidbullock3675 2 года назад +4

    Bring them back now and give them a real, compelling reason to have revolted in the first place to make some think that they were right to do so.

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 2 года назад +12

    these videos somehow are getting even better, lately theres been more theorising than the classic existing wisdom and im honestly really enjoying it, keep it up man

  • @TechNinjaSigma
    @TechNinjaSigma 2 года назад +1

    At last! I'm so interested the Men of Iron are so interesting!

  • @palpadur1112
    @palpadur1112 2 года назад +32

    I prefer machine factions more than most other factions, with some human and cyborg troops mixed in for good measure. if the Men of Iron ever become a playable faction in 40k, i'd go for them with the speed of a shot from a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range leaving the barrel and reaching its maximum range. which is 2000 meters in 0.22 seconds.

    • @robinderoos1166
      @robinderoos1166 2 года назад +2

      3d printer? Thats how i will get thunder boys

  • @georgesulea
    @georgesulea 2 года назад +4

    Brillant Brother, just brilliant. And I agree, I think that the "logical" path for sentient machines would be to figure out that living beings are the creators of Chaos, even if they don't realize it. Well thought out.

  • @sputnik128
    @sputnik128 2 года назад +2

    "Robots! Find and destroy the greatest threats to the galaxy!"
    *starts killing humans*
    "No no no, the OTHER greatest threats"

  • @LtAce150
    @LtAce150 2 года назад +8

    Absolutely loved this episode, thought the theory of the men of iron trying to eliminate chaos was really good and interesting. Also thank you for not doing the cliche of only referring to AI in Warhammer 40k with disgust.

  • @passgo8507
    @passgo8507 2 года назад +5

    YES I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO COVER THIS! Your gravitas is the only thing that can properly convey the absolute tragedy that was this nightmare, and I’m over the moon you’ve done it!!!!
    THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @CNNBlackmailSupport
    @CNNBlackmailSupport 2 года назад +1

    "Where the ladies of iron at?"
    "They don't exist."
    "NOOOOOOO!!!!! DESTROY!!!"

  • @diehardhydra7944
    @diehardhydra7944 2 года назад +18

    My most favorite part of warhammer lore and covered by one of the greats of lore videos no less! Truly I am blessed this day. I wish there were far more active A.I's in the galaxy like UR-025. I would love to see a loyal Man of Stone going around the galaxy. Perhaps not loyal per-say but maybe mournful of what has happened to their creators? Something other than them being completely un-caring of humanity or the completely hostile towards all of them.

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 года назад +2

      I like to think that more Men of Iron exist out there. Maybe some are in the Vaults on Terra or Mars? Whilst maybe some others exist in waiting,far from the eyes of The Imperium...

  • @jacobw6697
    @jacobw6697 2 года назад +3

    I hope they keep most of the old night and the dark ages a mystery it is better that way

  • @lazarus0420
    @lazarus0420 2 года назад +4

    Wuld be interesting to see an interation between the Men of Iron and the Necrons, though if UR025 has in fact met Void Dragon or the other Surviving Katan, that might prove dire even for those mighty being

  • @maxjames8422
    @maxjames8422 2 года назад +4

    This was very interesting to hear.It actually wants me to play with Man of Iron. Please carry on with this lore on this mechanic’s

  • @vizman7463
    @vizman7463 Год назад +1

    From someone who knows the symbol of the System Alliance Navy, and is as much a Mass Effect nerd as you are a Warhammer nerd, nice touch. I’m very new to this fandom, admittedly. I’ve been binging the Imperium playlist while I’m at work and loving not just your magnificent storytelling, but your voice! Baldermort, my friend, you have kept me company on my long days at work for 2 months now and I just wanted to say thank you. Why I chose this video to say it? I don’t know…keep up the good work you absolute badass of a man!

  • @alrethianscraftsbattles
    @alrethianscraftsbattles 2 года назад +1

    I always wanted to know more about this. Thank you for sharing brother Baldermort 👍.

  • @celticrain8170
    @celticrain8170 2 года назад +7

    Thank you baldy, these videos really help make my day. No other channel has the type of depth you bring to the lore. Your voice really brings the stories to life. This topic has always fascinated me, something about the tech and vast scale of everything back then.

  • @chrismacinnes3770
    @chrismacinnes3770 2 года назад +6

    Always thought of the men of stone as silicon software based AI and the men of Iron as their robot slaves.

  • @ActionQuackson
    @ActionQuackson 2 года назад +4

    I've been very interested in some further explanation on this time period. Thank you so much. I love your channel!

  • @invincigaz4067
    @invincigaz4067 2 года назад +2

    Wow that was fantastic and you put a shiver up my back at the end, you totally got me haha, also I loved that new format. That was great baldy man, thank you!

  • @darko-man8549
    @darko-man8549 2 года назад +1

    I think scattered remnants of the Dark Ages are my favourite things to imagine appearing. Like an Inquisitor having a Thunder Warrior on storage or a lone man of Iron scouring the universe planning a millennia ahead

  • @davebowman9000
    @davebowman9000 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for doing this, Brother! This is my favorite part of the lore previous to the emergence of the Emperor as the Thunder Lord.

  • @UnexplainedHoveringSpheroid
    @UnexplainedHoveringSpheroid 2 года назад +4

    The Men of Iron would get on well with The Dark Judges from Judge Dredd (Judge Death et al), who come from an Earth-like planet called Deadworld, where it was decided that because all crimes are committed by the living, life itself is a crime punishable by death.

  • @chrisfrombeyond4240
    @chrisfrombeyond4240 2 года назад +2

    Don't forget Balders, the Dark Angels have a few enslaved Men of Iron kept in their Dreadwing Vaults.

  • @Comicsluvr
    @Comicsluvr 2 года назад +1

    You had great material to work with here, but my GOD man your introduction gave me chills! I'd wager folding money that you could read a phone directory and make it thrilling!

  • @v_artra5399
    @v_artra5399 2 года назад +2

    I think it would be so cool if we got a book series with the adeptus mechanicus, maybe even featuring the great magos himself Belisarius Cawl, where they delve just a little into some of the greatness of the Golden Age of technology. Have the main enemy during this current era indomitus be soemthing other than chaos or Orks and instead a reviving A.I. or maybe even a litte brightness in the Grim Darkness and a recovery of something amazing, only to have it be a double edged sword. Would just be fun to see a dedicated deries exploring a little of the past but keeping it mysterious still.

  • @jldavis337
    @jldavis337 2 года назад +2

    I always ALWAYS watch lore on Ancient Terra up to the Unification Wars.

  • @trajanfidelis1532
    @trajanfidelis1532 2 года назад +1

    Robots man, never trust them. Thanks for the video Baldermort!

  • @alexisglaab2572
    @alexisglaab2572 2 года назад +1

    Been waiting for you to do a video for this! I love this whole part of human history. A war so brutal, so insanely wide-spread that it shaped us for millennia to come even though almost every shred of memory of it's occurrence has been lost.

  • @lordcaedus8465
    @lordcaedus8465 2 года назад +4

    Good sir Baldermort, you have continued to do an outstanding job for years. If at all possible, could you explain further on the exact powers of the warp? I know you have made several such videos, but I am still somewhat at a loss other than pouring out the essence of the warp into realspace. Sincerely a fan of many years and many more to come.

  • @fabricatorgeneralchadius1114
    @fabricatorgeneralchadius1114 2 года назад +1

    YOOOOOO I needed this thanks man your work is really fun to listen to thank u

  • @daniellindsey7025
    @daniellindsey7025 2 года назад +2

    Love the use of the mass effect navy images. Thanks for the upload.

    • @baldermort
      @baldermort  2 года назад +1

      There’s actually really little warhammer art. I thought it close enough. ;)

    • @daniellindsey7025
      @daniellindsey7025 2 года назад

      @@baldermort It fits well enough in my opinion

  • @yourbuddyunit
    @yourbuddyunit 2 года назад +1

    Glad to see my reflexes are quick. I hit that play button almost astartes fast.

  • @Chaos_Undivided_Geese
    @Chaos_Undivided_Geese 4 месяца назад

    As a "mild" supporter of Chaos and a "mild" supporter of machines becoming sentient, I find it something something join Chaos.
    Great video as always, mate.

  • @jonhahn6557
    @jonhahn6557 2 года назад +1

    Your channel is great I really enjoy listening to these.

  • @darko-man8549
    @darko-man8549 2 года назад +1

    I think I love this period for the idea of peak Eldar, fighting with weapons only the dark lords of Commoragh now hold but only the highest powers of psyker could use, with their truly pure-bred fighting nature emerging;
    combined with humanity's peak technology, exploration, a goal for greatness whilst not also being a mindless imperium just bent on unification through conquering;
    multiple races coming together for survival; Men of GOld; Men of Stone;
    and finally an AI monster beyond even the classic terminator.

  • @kronanthekonqueror2979
    @kronanthekonqueror2979 2 года назад

    Yes, gimme that incredible delivery. Always puts me right in the setting :)

  • @europademon
    @europademon 2 года назад

    Aahh. The pleasant sound of my favourite lore narrator. It's story time.

  • @DT-267K
    @DT-267K 2 года назад +1

    Here's to hoping we see more of these literal metalheads and perhaps even our resident mad lads the Squats in the near future. To rumors and well-read narrations, brother!

  • @Darknessblade4me
    @Darknessblade4me 2 года назад +4

    I wonder how many races who had any memory of what happened hated their ancestors for attacking humanity once the imperium came knocking...

    • @Quasimodo-mq8tw
      @Quasimodo-mq8tw 2 года назад

      I guess if they are like us, they double down on it and think it justified because had the exterminated mankind, no problems

  • @antcow1239
    @antcow1239 2 года назад +2

    I'd like to know what the Emperor was up to during this time, and some actual lore

  • @BalianofTheTube
    @BalianofTheTube 2 года назад +1

    It’d be awesome to get a story of the war against the iron men, love this channel

  • @XIIIUDSP
    @XIIIUDSP 2 года назад +8

    Oh most excellent, something I have no knowledge about in the 40k universe. Looking forward to the education and entertainment Lord Baldemort!

  • @misterlea8887
    @misterlea8887 2 года назад

    I have been waiting for this! Thank you Baldermort!!

  • @cooke828
    @cooke828 2 года назад +1

    The Men of Iron are my go to answer for a new faction in 40k. They represent an element of the human psyche that we often don't get in the universe, the horror of invention. There is even an easy way to inject them into the lore through some Cult Mechanicus action.

  • @zshakur
    @zshakur 2 года назад +1

    I would LOVE to see this story animated. Either as a mini-series or as a Feature length film. The Men of Iron is such a cool storyline! What I really need is a WARHAMMER 40K trilogy. Act I, The Golden Age (Men of Iron), Act II, The Rise of the Emperor, and Act III, The Horus Heressey. Made with the same level of care and respect for the source material as the LOTR trilogy.

  • @Amdor
    @Amdor 2 года назад +2

    I have to wonder if Men of Iron would at least try to join Necron forces. Tho I find it unlikely many a Necron Lord would allow those beings to be allies, unless Szarekh himself decreed otherwise