Not really an araki forgot, but how come Poor Tom didn’t turn into a stone during his fight with Josuk8 once he had the Rokakaka branch if his stand is automatic? Not accusing araki of forgetting, just wanted some clarification on that scene
Mollof Part 10 will be about an alternate universe, mirroring everything from part 1 to part 6, but everyone is a horse. Jonahorse Joehorse, Horso Brando, Horsewagon, Jostallion, Ceastallion, Jotahorse Kujorse... even stands are horses: Horse platinum, The horse, silver horse, emerald horse, golden horse, zipper horse...
@@deadbush2812 bruh I'm speaking about the invisible baby. Heard somewhere that she eventually painted a Star on the base of her neck cuz she was raised by the joestars ┐( ∵ )┌
As an artist who drastically changes some designs later so he doesn't have to repeatedly handle the tedious parts, I can see this being 100% the reason.
I can confirm that the "Joseph son of Jonathan" is a mistake in the English translation of Araki's book. I have the Italian edition and there is written "nipote", which means "grandson".
Regarding Dio's ear birthmarks, interestingly enough the anime actually shows the ear marks all the way through the anime, which kind retroactively fixes the "Araki forgot" issue.
same with the Joestar birthmark. In the manga, the birthmark was introduced in Part 3 and was never seen before but the anime fixes it and we see both Jonathan's and Joseph's birthmarks
@@poemirtizaI read the manga for parts one and two then switched to the anime for part three and just kinda gaslit myself into believing the marks had been a thing before 😂
Bruno: "Giorno! You created a spare hand ahead of time so you wouldn't lose your powers!" GioGio: "What? No I just wanted to start growing it as soon as possible... Does your stand work that way?" Trish: "ARE YOU TELLING ME I RISKED MY LIFE OVER A HAND THAT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER?!"
Polnareff thinking Avdol had fricking died because of him and met his depressed father only to find out the other Crusaders were trolling him about Avdol being dead and he'd been feeling sad for all that time for nothing: *_"Am I a joke to you?"_*
I guess a headcanon way to explain this sudden limitation is that Giorno might be too weakened at that moment to do much of anything. Slicing off your own hands in a very messy way would knock the golden wind out of anyone and reattaching fresh hands infused with some leftover life energy would help get him back up to full strength. The new hands took a lot longer to form than other Gold Experience creations
@@mrreyes5004 To be fair, Polnareff would have blabbered about Avdol surviving if he was not left out of the loop, so DIO probably would have sent someone to go finish Avdol off.
@@CherryPixelBun we also never see him use his healing ability specifically with his legs. I think it could be explained that his legs are less precise than his hands, and as such, aren’t able to heal body parts, even though they can make complete creatures.
@@CherryPixelBun That would only make sense if Giorno passed out and needed medical treatment. If he was strong enough to use his stand normally, he should be able to make anything just like normal
What about Star Finger: the World? I dreamed about it once when I was drunk and it was never used again, damn Araki forgetting things
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I remember that from a shitpost. DIO remembering Jotaro's 'same type of stand' comment and him copying The World's time stop, then deducing he could copy Star Finger. Although I am not sure if he even knew of Star Finger.
I think Dio's breath wasn't actually a mistake. Or rather, it's easy to explain away. It was the last of his breath leaving his lungs after becoming a vampire.
@@JojoTheVulture That's irrelevant when considering this line of logic makes it consistent with P2 while not doing any mental gymnastics. He was quite literally killed then and there, then we never see his breath again.
@@JojoTheVulture idk, a lot of vampire media makes special note of breath, and the lack there of. It seems like an extraordinarily simple detail as far as horror motifs.
You know about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Steel Ball Run, right? There is this part on the manga where Stephen Steel introduces some miniature horses marching and explains that they are the mascots of the Steel Ball Race, now I am totally ok with making horses the mascots of a horse race, it totally makes sense, BUT WHY THE HELL ARE THEY TINY? MAKING THE HORSES TINY DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THE STORY, IT JUST RAISES MORE QUESTIONS! ARE TINY HORSES LIKE A COMMON PET FOR THE HOUSE LIKE DOGS AND CATS IN THIS UNIVERSE? WHY NOT MAKE THE PRESIDENTS HORSE THE MASCOT HORSE FOR THE RACE, HE DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO HAVE A HORSE, JUST MAKE UP SOME BULLSHIT LIKE "WELL HE NEVER ACTUALLY HAD A HORSE, WE JUST SAID THAT TO HAVE A MASCOT", THIS STUFF IS NOT HARD TO COME UP WITH GODDAMNIT! WHAT ARE EVEN THEY, ARE THEY LIKE A TOY TRAIN BUT WITH HORSES? ARE THEY BIO ENGINEERED MINIATURE HORSES? ARE THEY HOLOGRAMS OR SOMETHING? ARE WE LIVING IN THE FUCKING STAR WARS UNIVERSE NOW? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE! YOU ARE INTRODUCING SOMETHING STRANGE, HAVE THE DECENCY TO EXPLAIN IT GODDAMNIT! IT PISSES ME OFF!
Imagine being that much of a Chad that you recognize your mistake and make a written apology, AND then change it in future releases. Araki truly is a good guy
The first point - Sorry, but you can't see cold breath when it's cold outside. You see hot breath when it's cold outside. Araki wasn't wrong. Dio had cold breath when the weather was hot. Straits had cold breath when it's cold. One of these two things doesn't make condensation
I feel like nobody can deny the fact that Araki forgot to age. Look at a picture of him in the 90s. And then compare it to a picture of him from 2020 the man does not age
That whole thing with Polnareff's fingers always bothered me. Besides him mysteriously growing them back (although, it could have been possible he got them reattached after the end of part 3), it would have been so simple to have him not have those fingers if his left arm was the one lost in his battle with Diavolo. It's such a simple yet irritating mistake.
Dr. GroovyDude my theory (which I came up with just now) medical tech is pretty ok, it’s totally possible that in this universe he could have gotten prosthetic fingers that match his skin tone.
Dr. GroovyDude I don’t think that’s a big problem like who the fuck cares about polnareffs fingers 70% of the people reading and watching part 5 probably didn’t even notice because dis nigga died in like 5 minutes of screentime
@@dasschnecke3025 never said it was a big problem. I just said it was something I personally found kind of irritating. And again, he's a turtle now, so the state of his OG body doesn't really matter anymore.
It's funny how the actual mistakes are barely ever mentioned, like out of all things in this video the only one I've seen mentioned before is Dio's three moles.
tbh even I forgot about them until now. Strange how he actually did remember them for a while. They could've been a trait of Dio's family lineage like the Joestar, so Giorno and his sons from part 6 could've had them together with the star... but nope.
@@yoursonisold8743 Even if it requires some mental gymnastics, a good explanation for this was that he didn't explicitly tell Bruno that he could use any part of his body to give life, and so Bruno basically assumed it was just his hands. Giorno probably realized this at some point and thus made the brooch so as to keep team morale from dropping. Additionally, during the fight Giorno passed out from losing his hands.
I remember first watching this well before I started reading Part 7 and because I wasn’t really paying attention to the ending, I left the video genuinely thinking that the mini horses were some huge plotpoint from the early chapters of Part 7 that Araki dropped without explanation. Then I actually read Part 7 and realized that they literally only appear in like one panel.
I paused this video the moment part 7 was mentioned because I didn't want to get spoiled, I just finished part 6. All I heard was "biggest araki forgot" and I just couldn't wait and finished part 7 as soon as possible because I REALLY wanted to know what the biggest araki forgot was I don't even remember the damn mini horses and I just finished the manga 30 mins ago
"Times when Araki actually forgot" - So, he's not a perfect writer *Those are only minor details that don't affect the plot in any way* - HE'S IMMORTAL, UNKILLABLE, UNMATCHED
@@gustavogodoy9626 To be fair, if you really wanted to scrape at the bottom of the barrel, you could say that Bucciarati just assumed that Gold Experience could only heal via its fists since it's the same sort of stand as Sticky Fingers. Giorno himself never stated that he needed his hands to heal.
they're more consistent than his stand when fighting enyaba, can skewer fire, can't cut fog, can cut through anything by warping space, can't cut through a wall to get away from zombies.
@@heek8964 it's okay for stand powers to be a bit inconsistent, they depend on the users psychology after all, I bet SP punches harder when Jotaro is more pissed off. But the main thing is they (in most cases) don't act on their own, the user controls them. So if the user is as goofy as young Polnareff it makes perfect sense he wouldn't always use the powers perfectly.
On the subject of Straits' breath not fogging while Dio's did, Dio had just become a vampire, while Straits would have been a vampire for a few days by that point. Dio's body was still warm when we saw his breath fog.
Well, since dio does the same thing in the final battle of part one, idk if body heat can last that long. So its a possibility that vampires in jojo do breath but have an unnaturally cold breath, so if they breathe in room temperature like dio it will be foggy but in an environment with low temperature it won't. And as proof of this, not once has any other character's breath been visible in scenes where Dio's breath is .
The 9 Egyptian Gods are also a pretty weird plothole in numerous ways. For starters, when they're first introduced, they're shown as 9 adult sized humans. And yet, one is a child, one is a sword, and one is a literal bird. They're also said to be a fair mix of men and women, however there is only 1 female of the 9. Confirmed, Araki was on crack.
@@Cat18364 pet shop probably did not have (or need) a birdkeeper, he was shown to be by DIO's side( and on DIO's shoulder) as early as episode 4 of stardust crusaders
I like to think that the vampire breath thing isn't a contradiction. Remember that breath from Dio was immediately after his transformation, it's possible that it was his "last breath" left over from his human body.
He modeled them after people in older western fighting movies but eventually they became kinda hard to draw all the time so he decided to draw less buff characters.
late ik, but that would also kinda ruin his character, his character is supposed to be a joke, and he is like Schrödinger's cat, in this case he might be a stand user, but he could also be an actual alien
@@hanakoisbestgirl4752 maybe a alien that is on the planet where that meteorite came from so he has a stand but because he's an alien,can't see human stands
according to this one quaro post i read you would need nearlt a ton of raw force to completely rip off a human head, i don't think a gorrile could do the movement of ripping off a human head with 1 ton of force, let alone an adrenaline rushed 6'8 athelete
Maybe Giorno can give inanimate things life by touching them with any part of his stand, but in order to replicate a specific part of a living organism with enough precision to become part of the entire organism he needs to use Gold Experience's hands. I mean, you need a lot of precision to replicate a human hand complete with bones, nerves, and all sorts of veins reattaching to the severed part of the body and all while starting from a brooch
I also re-read part 5 and noticed that Giorno initially has the power to give life to inanimate objects and turn them into complete living organisms by touching them with any part of his body. During the fight with Baby Face, however, Giorno says he "matured" and is shown to now have the ability to create PARTS of an organism that can be reattached to an entire organism and work normally afterwards. This looks to me like a different ability, and maybe that's why it doesn't work like his regular, simple life-giving one. It could explain why he has to use his hands for this ability to work, seeing as it requires more precision and it's not as simple as touching something and turning it into plant or an animal, and also explains why the "parts" that are created don't act the same way as the organisms created normally (meaning they don't have the property of reflecting any damage taken to the aggressor, because they are a different part of Gold Experience's ability, that has different mechanics)
I feel like this is the classic situation where I explained the facts and because it made sense, you got all butthurt in the feelings. You can't refute my points by saying: "It would've been explained", Araki doesn't explain a lot of things, but you can still understand most of them by carefully examining the details and reading between the lines. Just because you're lazy and you just want to say that he forgot, it doesn't mean that others can't read into things and make sense of them. Whether I'm right or wrong, it's the act of exploring the possibilities that is important
@@matteofaccin6636 Fair enough, however, he pretty much only doesn’t explain character motivations, meaning behind names, etc. He rigorously goes over the abilities and disadvantages of each of the characters in an entire page. So yeah, if he didn’t explain that, than it is a pretty big leap in logic to me. And, Bruno explains how he has to use his hands to activate it. Not that his hands have to be there in order for his power to work.
Fair point on Araki not explaining it, but Bruno never saw Giorno create life with anything except his hands. He didn't see the Black Sabbath fight, so he assumes that, just like Sticky Fingers, Gold Experience can only activate its ability through its fists. This is all speculation of course, but it does make sense to me
1:06 Though this is definitely an Araki Forgot moment, I personally just think that the reason he didn't see the breathe was because he was just not breathing at all. Think about it. He was a Hamon master, so it only makes sense that he makes Hamon with every single breathe he takes to the point he probably forgot how to normal breathe. If he is a vampire, he can accidentally self-destruct because he'll create Hamon subconsciously without batting an eye. So to remedy this, he just stopped breathing altogether. Dio didn't had to deal with this, because he knew absolutely nothing about Hamon other than it is sparkly magical vampire-killing breathe.
@@lostremnant also dio has just transformed when he can be seen breathing meaning he probably still had some hot air in his lungs while Straitzo has been a vampire for quite some time
@@SkeletalNoises I just assumed that vampires just breathed out colder air as part of their change, and straizo's breathing not being shown just happened to fit with that thought.
1:44 my head cannon is Bruno just made some assumption because Sticky Fingers worked like that, and Giorno went through all the trouble with the brooch just for convenience's sake
Welp sorry but youre wrong. This is one of my least favorite things in jojo, but jojo characters are always telling the truth (except for narancia during talking heads fight and kakyoins ,,mirror" and ,,no one can deflect emeraldo splasho" ). Even shigeci that knows nothing about killer Queen knows for no reason that its a close range power stand. Its mantained in every part, that's why its such a big deal in phf when murolo lies about his stand power, because normally jojo characters are unable to lie. I wish araki would let them thou, he limits them that way... So no, if jojo characters say something, there always right, because they have to deliver exposition to the viewer.
Araki Forgot moments according to fans: allegedly story-breaking plot-holes that can be easily explained. Actual Araki Forgot moments: irrelevant inconcistencies.
And those "actual moments" aren't even plot holes as much as artistic style or mistakes. The tiny horse thing was more than likely just an aesthetic choice. Honestly this video is absolutely garbo, his other videos in the series are a ton better from what I've seen.
KISS stand stats make sense if you view them as stats for the ability rather than the main stand itself. A Power - The effect can damage nearly everything if not everything with no size limit A Speed - The objects fly back together incredibly quickly A Range - There is seemingly no limit as too how far away the objects can be brought away from each other A Durability - The ability can be used repeatedly and is near impossible to destroy or prevent without something like GER C Precision - The ability is focused on one task only with a few other applications A Potential - The stand is not shown off much throughout the part so we don't know its true potential, it could possibly even hold the ability to duplicate stand objects and even stands themselves
Alright, but that raises another question, how in the world is Whitesnake's speed a D then? I know this is completely irrelevant, but it's something I want to point out, even looking at Whitesnake's ability, it's definitely not slow or below a human-like speed, in fact, technically since it seems to make the discs in its targets a bit beforehand, like with against Jolyne, when he talked about he he could almost just pinch it on out, and it showed a bit of the disc coming out, shouldn't that make it an incredibly fast ability speed if it's seemingly just relevant on if the person is being touched by the stand user at all?
@@asnailwithpizza9724 I would probably say that has to do with his mind-control/slime ability which he uses on Jolyene and Jotaro which was known to take some time
@@asnailwithpizza9724 A tad late, though the answer to this is that it was explained to be the acid attack Whitesnake uses. Remember, it takes quite awhile to do real damage
Truth be told, by years I've been intrigued by those little horses. At first sight I interpreted them as Steven hability/stand used as means to oversee the race remotely (the tiny horses would represent and pinpoint the competitors). Later on, it became obvious that Steven Steel had no such habilities and was not a big controlling mastermind and puppetmaster of the race progress as I initially antecipated. Still, it's was an interesting, naturally sprouted concept at the time for me. Would be interesting if Steven had any such special habilities. Judging by his noble soul, strong principles and the bravery shown at the end (saving Johnny even), I would say that his character clearly had fighting spirit and stand potential.
Afterwards he is eventually revealed to be a simple, honored, but anxious and insecure with no bigger agenda or ambitions besides hosting that great event. It became obvious that he was only an good-ill promoter that was used by evil men. His purity of character was his flaw, exploited by others. Steven was solid on his beliefs, loyal to the end, and I believe he deserved more recognition.
Hey @Hamon Beat, I would love to hear your opinion about the matter, the underuse of the character and what did you think of my initial tiny horse stand hipothesis. Wouldn't it be neat?
Art mistakes aren’t really araki forgot. When trying to get a multi page chapter put every week mistakes happen, just look at the g1 transformers show nearly no character has a consistent look. TLDR: crunch leads to minor inconsistencies with art
The two biggest araki forgot is Avdols dads, and his chickens They could easily be the strongest characters even being able to beat G.e.R. Huge mistake.
GE could just be upside down when he gives life to tree and branch part, cuz Giorno movements aren't restricted And it can be just remade to "stand requires 2 hands, but can give life with life with any limb".
I'm pretty sure Giorno can't just attach limbs with his feet, that's why he's unable to do precise things such as healing or replacing limbs without his two working hands.
Another thing he actually forgot in a moment: In the original release of chapter 265 on the WSJ, Joseph mentions that his birthday is October 3, despite being listed as September 27 in previous publications. This is corrected in the volume release. This and also what we can also see in your Timeline inconsistencies video, Shows that what Araki really most forgets are the characters birthdays and ages, and not whole plots as people say
He's so forgettable they didn't even explain what happened to him in the future like they did for the rest of the characters. Would've been nice to see a bit more of the Hamon masters in general
Imagine Giorno heals his hands while he is inside CocoJumbo and Trish comes in to give his hand. That awkward moment when you did a useless task for no reason XD
@@nightmare_creature3757 situational anxiety resulting in a stupid yet kinda understandable choice . Fuck ups may happen even if you are the most sensible person. But that's just my reasoning. It is what it is at the end. Just Araki not thinking of the past scenes. Or maybe 'healing' is separate from life giving maybe that can explain what happend.
@@tuc-kaankaraayan Well, Gold Experience and Giorno himself definitely CAN create life with parts of their body other than their hands, so Bruno was flat-out wrong when he said that Gold Experience was like Sticky Fingers and needed to contact things with its hands in order to change them. But Giorno probably does need the use of his hands to actually attach the new body parts. I guess only Giorno can attach them too, seeing as it's his ability and al- -Oh, wait, no. That's completely wrong since he has no fucking hands when Trish gets the brooch and Giorno gets his left hand back. If he needed at least one hand to do that then there would've been no way for him to stick it back on. Sorry, tried to reason it out but a ginormous logical inconsistency shot that whole theory down. Giorno should have been able to turn something like a chair armrest into a new hand with his feet and have it attach itself back onto him. Araki forgot. And then unforgot the next time he needed Giorno to use something other than his hands to transmute something. Araki forgot and Bruno is kind of dumb sometimes. Maybe chalk up Giorno not correcting him to being passed out from shock or something. At least that makes some kind of sense, maybe.
4:57 Araki also made Gold Experience's stand stats really confusing. It has a 'C' in power, which makes sense for the fight with Sticky Fingers, but after that his stand seems equal to Sticky Fingers. He also has a 'C' in precision which is just really random.
Not as random as Dio having a B in precision when it seems to be just as precise as Star Platinum. Even worse, King Crimson has an E in range when his range is 2-3 meters, the same as Crazy Diamond which has a D in range. Araki is a crackhead.
@@debigboix4390 Really? I don't see how that would correlate with the stand's precision, considering it matched all of Star Platinum's super-precise blows, just seems weird for it be be based on the users accuracy. The B in durability is also very strange but I can accept it since The World obviously cracked way more in the final battle.
1:08 I don't really see the problem with this. At that point Dio had only just became a vampire so his body temperature would be closer to a human making his breath visible.
I can't thank you enough for this video series. It was so good for Arali's reputation as an author and clearing misconception about our favorite manga. _Arigato_ Hamon Beat... You are truly a bless for the JoJo Community...
4:50 Sometimes, Stand stats can refer to the ability of a Stand, like Whitesnake’s speed stat being D, referring to the slowness of Melt Your Heart’s effect on its victims. Thus, the A in Kiss’ destructive power could be referring to how removing a sticker from a cloned object would have it travel back to the original with great force, effectively destroying the object
Little mistakes like this make me appreciate the effort that goes into illustration. When you're writing a comic, your first priority is the story, characters, and themes, not continuity and consistency... though they help a lot. To err is human, and little inconsistencies give things a human edge.
He still earns the "Araki Forgot" joke more than most of the creators tho. Also consistency is part of the story itself if you are not writing with part to part system where you have to connect different storys.
@@cangirayicel7639 ehh , I don't know about that one chief...Lets talk the Obito situation from Naruto when he "died" under the rocks , but later on revealed that he survived.....A youtuber by the name of Swagkage dissects Inconsistencies in Naruto and there are a lot and HUGE plot based things are forgotten , So I don't know about you but Kishimoto forgot is a lot more fitting lol . There are more creators who do things worse or equal do this so maybe lay off Araki forgot and say araki mini forgot
@@cangirayicel7639 are you sure? Last I checked, Akira Toriyama, the writer for Dragon Ball, entirely neglected Launch as character due to him forgetting about her existence.
@@cangirayicel7639 No most of the "Araki Forgot" claims are just the result of anime-only fans, anime AND manga fans not paying attention to the plot, or accepting rumors instead of doing research.
1:07 Actually, I'm pretty sure this is consistent, since the visible condensation is caused by the interaction between cold and hot air. When Dio transforms, his breath is cold, causing condensation. We know that the air around isn't that cold, because the breath of the other characters is not visible. This is opposed to when we see the air being cold enough for Joseph's breath to be visible, so Straits' breath would not be visible due to it being closer in temperature to the chilled air outside.
Honest talk, after part 2 the "nickname" JOJO is an afterthought, they mention it at the beggining of parts 3,4 and 5 (Can't remember if it is mentioned in part 6), but after the first chapeter or so, they don't refer to the MC's as Jojo, well, I think Old Joseph calls Jotaro "Jojo" a couple of times but I am not too sure
Its actually a cropped sound from the arcade game, Heritage to the Future, where Joseph says "Feel the beat of my hamon" or something like that in japanese
@@averonisgaming9023 "Kizamu-ze! Hamon no Bito!" is the full quote. Meaning: "Tear them apart! Hamon Beat!" And Young Joseph sends Hamon through the Super Aja. Like Lisa Lisa does in the manga/anime.
Actualy, Dio would still have warm air in his body right after he becomes a vampire, as it would not have cooled the air already in his lungs, while straizo was a vampire for quite some time so the air in his lungs would not have been heated by his body heat, and thus there would not have been fog
regarding the Earth Wind and Fire, would be cool to keep both names the same proving Mikitaka is actually an alien so it's not the name of a stand but the name of an alien ability.
The vampire breath thing can actually be explained pretty easily: Vampire breath is always cold. In Straitzo's case, it was already cold outside, so his breath matched the current temperature, meaning nothing appeared. However, in Dio's case, it was relatively warm in the mansion. Nobody else's breath was visible but Dio's. This means that the room's temperature was at least slightly warmer than Dio's breath.
I mean it's pretty minor stuff to be honest, but I think that's the pont of HB, it doesn't relly matter, because JJBA is just that good. Maybe we can asume Straizo realised that, as a vampire he does not need to breathe, I mean as far as we know. Or maybe Dio still had "human air" in his lungs.
It's also possible that vampires don't need to breath, but still have working lungs. Dio could have simply been making deliberate use of this for the sake of appearing more intimidating.
Well I think its actually much simpler. Dio's body was still warm. Straizo was out and about in the cold air for minutes, maybe even hours at that point, and its fair to say hes been a vampire for days. Dio was a regular alive human just a minute before. Hes been dead and cold for at MOST 5 minutes, so it makes sense hed still be warm.
I feel like I heard from somewhere that Straizo actually had to completely change his breathing patterns since, you know, hamon is deadly to vampires. So maybe his breathing was just very irregular and sporadic, or he really wasn't breathing. I have no proof of this claim though, just wild speculation. Been a while since I watched part 2.
@@Fioriole That does make sense actually. Straizo was a hamon master as a human, and as such would have habitually breathed in a way that generated hamon. IIRC this was how he killed himself too. Dio never learned to use hamon as a human, and obviously never could after becoming a vampire.
JoJo kinda sucks. At least parts 1-5 do, I haven't read the manga. Edit: I said something this unpopular without backing it up and 2 days later no one cares. That's surprising. Well, I'm not complaining
To be fair, for the Dio Scene with the breath he JUST transformed. He's likely still got lingering body heat from when he was human. Straizo, on the other hand, had transformed a while ago.
Reply with your Araki Forgots for Part 8
Araki forgot how to draw a dog
Araki forgot to put a Lion in "Jojolion".
araki forgot hamon
@@h3xon797the lion is the main villains
Not really an araki forgot, but how come Poor Tom didn’t turn into a stone during his fight with Josuk8 once he had the Rokakaka branch if his stand is automatic? Not accusing araki of forgetting, just wanted some clarification on that scene
boy wont you look like a fool when araki brings back the Mini Horse March in Jojolion
Part 8 villains confirmed to be tiny horses
Part 9 will soley be about mini horses
Mollof Part 10 will be about an alternate universe, mirroring everything from part 1 to part 6, but everyone is a horse. Jonahorse Joehorse, Horso Brando, Horsewagon, Jostallion, Ceastallion, Jotahorse Kujorse... even stands are horses: Horse platinum, The horse, silver horse, emerald horse, golden horse, zipper horse...
Part 9 Jojo is confirmed to be a tiny house
Gyllen Stålson he a donke
Only Narancia would bring 2 separate boom boxes on a boat trip
In all honesty he probably brought more but we just don't see them
Two boats two boomboxes
@@waffles6280 sURROund s o u n d
*F O U R* actually
@@killerqueen2550 guess that's the reason why he died then
i never thought i'd hear someone utter the word's: "Polnareff's fingers are inconsistent."
There’s no e at the end of Polnareff
NeOn 😂😂😂😂 instead, I can’t believe that the biggest real Araki forgot are some little horses 😂😂😂
This is a bizzarre thing to say
@@laranjinhaAerea *yes, indeed*
_Where... are your fingers?_
Araki: gives the same name to two stands
Hamon Beat: calm
Araki: Shows small horses once
Hamon Beat: *Wrath*
small horses created big chaos at the time even some though they were rock animals worked for tooru
Perhaps the small horses can combine to create that universes version of Hol Horse
Casual slay the spire reference
@@alperenakdas3479 As a small horse I am indeed furious and angered by this mistake
Two identical rocks heheh
Broke: lisa lisa's birthmark
Woke: T I N Y H O R S E
This must be the work of Formaggio, the only member of the Hitman Team worthy to transcend universes
@@masarusenpai1952 he was so small that the universe missed him while it was rebooting
Now that I think about it when we're tattoos invented?
Edit: for context I mean a Joestar tattoo would be cool or not idk
EcksWhyZed_US they arent tatoos they’re legit birthmarks lol
@@deadbush2812 bruh I'm speaking about the invisible baby. Heard somewhere that she eventually painted a Star on the base of her neck cuz she was raised by the joestars ┐( ∵ )┌
Maybe Araki just kept forgetting about Polnareffs fingers so he just decided “You know why not turn him into a turtle”
I won't have to remember his fingers if he doesn't HAVE any! HAHAHAHAHA!
As an artist who drastically changes some designs later so he doesn't have to repeatedly handle the tedious parts, I can see this being 100% the reason.
Wait does ghost Polnareff get his fingers back?
@@Eshiay yes because he is a ghost
@@dvdWATER6308 What's funny is that in the anime they still color his right eye as blind even as a ghost inside coco jumbo's stand.
The fact that you sounded genuinely mad talking about the mini horses makes this video 100x better than it already was
Everyone is pissed about this and it's why part 7 is universally the worst part
Yeah! Fuck part 7!
"Araki is a fraud!"
Honestly, it's great to see him embracing the "ArAkI fOrGoT" meta
@@goggles8691 Yeah Fuck Part 7!!!
**Crying Slowly Inside**
Araki forgot idea: HUGE PLOT POINT
Real Araki forgot: *small horses*
WHERE ARE THEY??????
*Batman noises*
jonathan joestar : (in a british accent) am i a joke to you?
@@NoOne-qi4tbafter 2 years.. broke the 69..
The most obvious thing that Araki forgot: Aging.
bruh
True
I mean he himself doesn't seem to age when you think about it.....hmmmmm , so maybe he just likes representing himself....I N T E R E S T I N G
Araki's a vampire, confirmed
Facts
This dude just made some new memes. Everyone’s gonna be talking about Polnareff’s fingers and tiny horses
@wario2255 we all did... except for Hamon Beat
Old Kid are you an alien?
hamon beat is that one dude who reads the manga 6 trillion times
Plot twist, the fingers Bruno put in Giornos mouth were actually Polnareff's
I can confirm that the "Joseph son of Jonathan" is a mistake in the English translation of Araki's book. I have the Italian edition and there is written "nipote", which means "grandson".
pedruto What matters is what’s written in Japanese.
Just another brick in the machine We don’t know that for sure.
Pizza mozzarela mafioso quarentina
@@justanotherbrickinthemachi6598 What if the Italian translator noticed the mistake and he corrected it?
Zad Ras
The translator isn’t supposed to do that
The transition from
"Araki is a fraud" to "Thank you for watching" is so hilarious to me for some reason lmaoo
WE NEVER GOT ANY EXPLANATION FOR WHAT THESE ARE AND WE PROBABLY NEVER WILL. ARAKI IS A FRAUD.
thank you for watching! :3
It's so funny.
With a batman voice : "WHERE ARE THE TINY HORSES !?!"
They are in the soup.
Where are they
In Burger king's burgers.
HOL HORSES
Hi, with a batman voice. My name is Phil!
Fake Araki forgots': 'Araki forgot this HUGE plot point!'
Real Araki forgots': 'Araki forgot that this guy wore this style of shoes..'
Ah yes, forgetting that Giorno can use his legs isn't a plot point
TheBlandCharlie You, you know what a broad concept is right?
@@burntbrownie y-yeah..
@@theblandcharlie822 Good, just making sure.
@thespooksterman ?
Araki ACTUALLY forgetting something?
This must be the Work of Jail House Lock
Read the coment, watch the profile pic, write a jojo reference...
Uh... What i was saying?
Read the comment, read the reply, about to write mine, watch the....
Now what was I doing again?
Sees comment, trying to reply, accidentally sees profile, what were yo.. Uhh what was i doing again
Read the comment, watch the profile pic, write a jojo reference and get my ti-
Uh.. what was I saying?
Read the comment
Read the first reply
Read the 2nd reply
What am I doing here?
Head canon:
Polnareff is a New species and every mating season his fingers fall off to attract female baguettes
I hate you
Duality
Fusion
Combination
There are literal Rock Humans in Part 8, I wouldn’t really be surprised anymore if thats the case.
The explanation to polnareff's regeneration is simple: he was a lizard
No, he was a turtle
@@gogokowai Both are reptiles
Wake your reason's hollow vote
y o u r e a l i z a r d h a r r y
* a frog
Regarding Dio's ear birthmarks, interestingly enough the anime actually shows the ear marks all the way through the anime, which kind retroactively fixes the "Araki forgot" issue.
same with the Joestar birthmark. In the manga, the birthmark was introduced in Part 3 and was never seen before but the anime fixes it and we see both Jonathan's and Joseph's birthmarks
When I draw Dio I aways forget those little ear marks, Araki is just like me fr
I thought it was piercings
@@poemirtizaThough, that can't be called a forgot moment
@@poemirtizaI read the manga for parts one and two then switched to the anime for part three and just kinda gaslit myself into believing the marks had been a thing before 😂
You Lost the opportunity to make the title: Debunking Araki remembered
Lmfao
*Hamon Beat has become that which he had swore to destroy*
Bruno: "Giorno! You created a spare hand ahead of time so you wouldn't lose your powers!"
GioGio: "What? No I just wanted to start growing it as soon as possible... Does your stand work that way?"
Trish: "ARE YOU TELLING ME I RISKED MY LIFE OVER A HAND THAT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER?!"
Polnareff thinking Avdol had fricking died because of him and met his depressed father only to find out the other Crusaders were trolling him about Avdol being dead and he'd been feeling sad for all that time for nothing: *_"Am I a joke to you?"_*
I guess a headcanon way to explain this sudden limitation is that Giorno might be too weakened at that moment to do much of anything. Slicing off your own hands in a very messy way would knock the golden wind out of anyone and reattaching fresh hands infused with some leftover life energy would help get him back up to full strength. The new hands took a lot longer to form than other Gold Experience creations
@@mrreyes5004 To be fair, Polnareff would have blabbered about Avdol surviving if he was not left out of the loop, so DIO probably would have sent someone to go finish Avdol off.
@@CherryPixelBun we also never see him use his healing ability specifically with his legs. I think it could be explained that his legs are less precise than his hands, and as such, aren’t able to heal body parts, even though they can make complete creatures.
@@CherryPixelBun That would only make sense if Giorno passed out and needed medical treatment. If he was strong enough to use his stand normally, he should be able to make anything just like normal
What about Star Finger: the World? I dreamed about it once when I was drunk and it was never used again, damn Araki forgetting things
I remember that from a shitpost. DIO remembering Jotaro's 'same type of stand' comment and him copying The World's time stop, then deducing he could copy Star Finger.
Although I am not sure if he even knew of Star Finger.
@ would it be world finger then?
@@CloutmasterPhluphyy perhaps. The shitpost called it "The World: Star Finger".
@ shouldnt be the world finger?
@@santinoamin296 nah it should be the finger
Ironically, the anime fixes Dio’s three ear moles in part 3
They’re also in part 1
Legit thought it was three piercings lol
@@wingless__ i didn't even notice it bruh
@@wingless__ same
Thanks David productions
Lisa Lisa just got a matching tattoo with his son, of course
HIS son?
@@Interestking shhhhh
Lisa Lisa is trans confirmed
@@bluelandyaandgreenlandya1788 Maybe LisaLisa and Jorge are both trans then, and that's how they could still have Joseph.
@@redgeoblaze3752 I hate you
I think Dio's breath wasn't actually a mistake. Or rather, it's easy to explain away. It was the last of his breath leaving his lungs after becoming a vampire.
Eh... I don't know, I don't think araki would think about that level of detail
@@JojoTheVulture That's irrelevant when considering this line of logic makes it consistent with P2 while not doing any mental gymnastics. He was quite literally killed then and there, then we never see his breath again.
@@JojoTheVulture idk, a lot of vampire media makes special note of breath, and the lack there of. It seems like an extraordinarily simple detail as far as horror motifs.
@@JojoTheVulture so? Even if he didn’t mean it, it makes sense.
There a panel when Dio fights Jonathan and Zeppeli at the lake when Dio's breath can be seen
You know about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Steel Ball Run, right?
There is this part on the manga where Stephen Steel introduces some miniature horses marching and explains that they are the mascots of the Steel Ball Race, now I am totally ok with making horses the mascots of a horse race, it totally makes sense, BUT WHY THE HELL ARE THEY TINY? MAKING THE HORSES TINY DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THE STORY, IT JUST RAISES MORE QUESTIONS!
ARE TINY HORSES LIKE A COMMON PET FOR THE HOUSE LIKE DOGS AND CATS IN THIS UNIVERSE?
WHY NOT MAKE THE PRESIDENTS HORSE THE MASCOT HORSE FOR THE RACE, HE DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO HAVE A HORSE, JUST MAKE UP SOME BULLSHIT LIKE "WELL HE NEVER ACTUALLY HAD A HORSE, WE JUST SAID THAT TO HAVE A MASCOT", THIS STUFF IS NOT HARD TO COME UP WITH GODDAMNIT!
WHAT ARE EVEN THEY, ARE THEY LIKE A TOY TRAIN BUT WITH HORSES? ARE THEY BIO ENGINEERED MINIATURE HORSES? ARE THEY HOLOGRAMS OR SOMETHING? ARE WE LIVING IN THE FUCKING STAR WARS UNIVERSE NOW? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!
YOU ARE INTRODUCING SOMETHING STRANGE, HAVE THE DECENCY TO EXPLAIN IT GODDAMNIT! IT PISSES ME OFF!
Di Molto, Venice!
Ghiaccho said angrily
@@HMNCLunar *Venezia
@@HMNCLunar IT HAPPENS IN ITALY SO USE THE ITALIAN WORD GODDAMMIT, IT PISSES ME OFF!FUCKING DUMBASSES!
@Snipin' is a good job, mate! It's challengin' work, outta doors. I guarantee you'll not go hungry-
Imagine being that much of a Chad that you recognize your mistake and make a written apology, AND then change it in future releases.
Araki truly is a good guy
He is truly a reliable guy right there
Why didn’t Jotaro use Star Finger to stop the mini horses?!?!?M
@Bird Brain okay so he should've used star succ
The first point - Sorry, but you can't see cold breath when it's cold outside. You see hot breath when it's cold outside. Araki wasn't wrong.
Dio had cold breath when the weather was hot. Straits had cold breath when it's cold. One of these two things doesn't make condensation
2. When electronics are wet they don't work. If they dry, assuming there are no shorts, it will work again
@@THEGREATMAX wrong comment
Why didn't Joseph use clackers to defeat funny valentine
I feel like nobody can deny the fact that Araki forgot to age. Look at a picture of him in the 90s. And then compare it to a picture of him from 2020 the man does not age
it's because he's a hamon user
i agree, if araki forgot to age, he would forgot many many things
Don’t forget how in part 5, right after Silver Chariot Requiem was defeated, Araki forgot how to kill dogs.
Good
Benedict didn't even die
Yeah, instead of killing dogs, Araki just forgot how to draw dogs.
Also araki forgot u can't defeat requiem stands
Due to trend in cute dogs, Araki have to urge himself not to harm any dogs
*Araki forgetting the tiny horses*
Hamon Beat: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
My simple quiet life is compromised
That whole thing with Polnareff's fingers always bothered me. Besides him mysteriously growing them back (although, it could have been possible he got them reattached after the end of part 3), it would have been so simple to have him not have those fingers if his left arm was the one lost in his battle with Diavolo. It's such a simple yet irritating mistake.
Dr. GroovyDude my theory (which I came up with just now) medical tech is pretty ok, it’s totally possible that in this universe he could have gotten prosthetic fingers that match his skin tone.
@@notkiwibird whatever the case, it's irrelevant now considering he's a turtle.
@@Dr._GroovyDude he's inside a turtle
Dr. GroovyDude
I don’t think that’s a big problem like who the fuck cares about polnareffs fingers 70% of the people reading and watching part 5 probably didn’t even notice because dis nigga died in like 5 minutes of screentime
@@dasschnecke3025 never said it was a big problem. I just said it was something I personally found kind of irritating. And again, he's a turtle now, so the state of his OG body doesn't really matter anymore.
Dude got HEATED when he started talking about the mini horses LMAO
5:14 Part 7 is literally unreadable now. Thanks, Hamon Beat.
Yeah. Finna just skip it and go to part 8. What a shame honestly, i just got past when Johnny fought those 11 guys with the tatoos
@@CloutmasterPhluphyy Shame, you wont see gyro and his stand "NUT BUSTER"
Yeah. Just skip it and go to part 8 lmao
@@kraddle2360 i did end up finishing part 7 and am now on part 8 so...
@@Leninms Only dumbasses skip one of the best parts
It's funny how the actual mistakes are barely ever mentioned, like out of all things in this video the only one I've seen mentioned before is Dio's three moles.
tbh even I forgot about them until now. Strange how he actually did remember them for a while. They could've been a trait of Dio's family lineage like the Joestar, so Giorno and his sons from part 6 could've had them together with the star... but nope.
@@Dr0dd Giorno folding his ear in could be a reference/nod of some form to it
I hear people mention the BIG fight all the time. The fact that Giorno doesn't need his hands to create life is pretty glaring.
@@yoursonisold8743 Even if it requires some mental gymnastics, a good explanation for this was that he didn't explicitly tell Bruno that he could use any part of his body to give life, and so Bruno basically assumed it was just his hands. Giorno probably realized this at some point and thus made the brooch so as to keep team morale from dropping. Additionally, during the fight Giorno passed out from losing his hands.
@@HumanTooth It requires a lot of headcanon to make that work. The more you have to make up, the worse the plot point is.
Does anyone remember when araki just forgot about stands in part one and two?
He also forgot about the holy corpse in Baoh
He also forgot about the rokakaka in Gorgeous★Irene
Simon Willumeit He also forget that Speedwagon’s Actual Name is Mike Harper
@@j.j.hector735 even I forgot that
Araki forgot about Dire after his death. What a hack
I remember first watching this well before I started reading Part 7 and because I wasn’t really paying attention to the ending, I left the video genuinely thinking that the mini horses were some huge plotpoint from the early chapters of Part 7 that Araki dropped without explanation.
Then I actually read Part 7 and realized that they literally only appear in like one panel.
My man just got trolled
I paused this video the moment part 7 was mentioned because I didn't want to get spoiled, I just finished part 6. All I heard was "biggest araki forgot" and I just couldn't wait and finished part 7 as soon as possible because I REALLY wanted to know what the biggest araki forgot was
I don't even remember the damn mini horses and I just finished the manga 30 mins ago
In some ways that's honestly worse cause they're such a fucking weird concept, like why did he write them in if they weren't gonna come up again?
I love how the calm Italian music plays at 2:28 while polnareff is screaming about getting his fingers torn off
That’s clearly an Araki forgot, how could he do that
Vento Aureo OST, Yugo Kanno is a mastermind
@@gannongarfin1634Hamon Beat forgot that the music doesn’t fit the scene
"Times when Araki actually forgot"
- So, he's not a perfect writer
*Those are only minor details that don't affect the plot in any way*
- HE'S IMMORTAL, UNKILLABLE, UNMATCHED
Except that Gold Experience can only heal by the fists, that was important to the plot of a single arc
@@gustavogodoy9626 Pretty sure that's already been debunked
@@crusaderdino2739 1:43
@@gustavogodoy9626 My bad, I misread what you put and thought of something else
@@gustavogodoy9626 To be fair, if you really wanted to scrape at the bottom of the barrel, you could say that Bucciarati just assumed that Gold Experience could only heal via its fists since it's the same sort of stand as Sticky Fingers. Giorno himself never stated that he needed his hands to heal.
Honestly Polnareff's fingers the most inconsistent thing in the series. You know its bad when not even the merchandise and game gets it right
they're more consistent than his stand when fighting enyaba, can skewer fire, can't cut fog, can cut through anything by warping space, can't cut through a wall to get away from zombies.
@@heek8964
That's just dramatic tension: Araki's stand ability.
@@heek8964 it's okay for stand powers to be a bit inconsistent, they depend on the users psychology after all, I bet SP punches harder when Jotaro is more pissed off. But the main thing is they (in most cases) don't act on their own, the user controls them. So if the user is as goofy as young Polnareff it makes perfect sense he wouldn't always use the powers perfectly.
he used star finger to fix it duh
The only thing he forgot is that we have feelings and get attached to characters sometimes :´(
He does have an attachment to his characters too. I believe I've heard somewhere he actually cried for Iggy.
@@silvereaglestudios then why did he kill him
@@spriterefreshed935 To show how evil Vanilla Ice was and to prove Iggy's heroic nobility.
Do people forget that likable CAN die? Lol
The deaths of part 5 felt really rushed and like lets get this out of the way for me ;-;. Aside from abbachio
You guys CAN’T rip
Off a humans head?
Wow I think you guys are below human
We yeet ourselves off electric fences
Its time to reject my humanity i guess...
if you don't stop an earthquake with a punch ur not even a child strength
@@ronin_wins Nah man you have to be abe to tank world-destroying projectiles if not then you're basicly still in the womb.
I do NOT
WHY CAN'T YOU ALL JUST...
BEHAVE YOURSELVES!!!
The biggest Araki forgot is when he forgot to draw Enya’s hand in bandages for one single panel.
Nah, it was when he stopped drawing Polnareff's tongue bandages a few panels after they were first shown during the Sun arc.
how dare he!
Araki drew Squalo with a third arm in his intro with tiziano
@@takumeme545 I heard that it was a leg and just a very weird pose
yea it was his leg just bending in a very awkward but possible pose. Whats funny is that DP also confused it for his arm and changed it
On the subject of Straits' breath not fogging while Dio's did, Dio had just become a vampire, while Straits would have been a vampire for a few days by that point. Dio's body was still warm when we saw his breath fog.
I always thought Dio’s breath fog was from his ice cold body temperature inside the Joestar’s warm mansion.
I thought dio was doing that to be _menacing_
@@lazyliongames5858 both 😎
I thought he was exhaling frost from his ability to freeze stuff, but that doesn't really make sense
Well, since dio does the same thing in the final battle of part one, idk if body heat can last that long. So its a possibility that vampires in jojo do breath but have an unnaturally cold breath, so if they breathe in room temperature like dio it will be foggy but in an environment with low temperature it won't. And as proof of this, not once has any other character's breath been visible in scenes where Dio's breath is .
The 9 Egyptian Gods are also a pretty weird plothole in numerous ways. For starters, when they're first introduced, they're shown as 9 adult sized humans. And yet, one is a child, one is a sword, and one is a literal bird. They're also said to be a fair mix of men and women, however there is only 1 female of the 9. Confirmed, Araki was on crack.
Well for Anubis it was a possessed person and for pet shop it was probably a bird keeper
@@Cat18364 pet shop probably did not have (or need) a birdkeeper, he was shown to be by DIO's side( and on DIO's shoulder) as early as episode 4 of stardust crusaders
@@maestrofeli4259 that's true it could have just been misinformation also
One of the hooded figures is very short (in the anime at least haven't read the manga yet) so one of them being a child is not an issue
One of them is the girl guy guy
What about the time when Jotaro could've use star finger against Valentine.
Jotaro could use star finger against Ultimate Kars as well
Or Araki forgot that you can't just deflect the emerald splash.
But if he did that, Kenshiro would have noticed and killed him with a Rasengan before he could go Super Saiyan.
I wish he would use star finger against Jolyne
@@ar9907 I've seen this somewhere
Honestly in these times of self isolation I really wish part 6 was out
🖕🏿read it🖕🏿
@@thrice_3954 Although it would be nice to see it animated
@@thrice_3954 just because you've read it doesn't mean you don't really wish the anime was out also hello fellow jew
@@thrice_3954 Share Gif:media2.giphy.com/media/3oEjHAUOqG3lSS0f1C/200_d.gif?cid=f2bf6d12e00929c7392f601594d0371d67b06d23152e86e0&rid=200_d.gif
Don't care much about part 6. I WANTS STEEL BALL RUN.
I like to think that the vampire breath thing isn't a contradiction. Remember that breath from Dio was immediately after his transformation, it's possible that it was his "last breath" left over from his human body.
I was kinda thinking that Dio Brando's breath was colder than the air around him, thus creating the same effect
@@bloodlessvr2823 that wouldn't work actually
@@bloodlessvr2823 ion think thats how that works chief 😐
i like how he gets all angry while talking about the mini horses and then all of a sudden he reverts back to calmly saying "Thank you for watching!" 😂
You forgot to mention the biggest one:
Araki forgot how to draw buff people
Llmao his style changed completely
Parts one through three he had it but when he got to part four his brain just shut down
They were still pretty buff. But, I know what you mean.
Well yeah, he said himself he can't draw his older characters
He modeled them after people in older western fighting movies but eventually they became kinda hard to draw all the time so he decided to draw less buff characters.
3:52 to be fair, you could justify that by just saying he doesn’t have a stand and that he really IS an Alien.
late ik, but that would also kinda ruin his character, his character is supposed to be a joke, and he is like Schrödinger's cat, in this case he might be a stand user, but he could also be an actual alien
@@watch6272 alien stand user?
@@hanakoisbestgirl4752 maybe a alien that is on the planet where that meteorite came from so he has a stand but because he's an alien,can't see human stands
@@watch6272 want the scrondiger cat both?
Mikitaka is both a stand user and an alien.
The cat was both dead and alive while inside the box.
Also Planet Waves sounds cooler for a meteor based stand than Earth, Wind and Fire, so I think it was a blessing in disguise that it got changed
I don't even remember those tiny horses. I think at one point in Steel Ball Run Rohan comes out of the page and uses Heaven's Door on the reader.
me too
Rohan probably used that on the entire fanbase during part 6
“AND WE PROBABLY NEVER WILL! ARAKI IS A FRAUD! Thank you so much for watching.”
LOL
Hamon Beat talking about everything else: Calm
Hamon Beat when the tiny horses exist: A N G E R
I always thought the boombox playing in the anime wasn't actually playing and the sound was coming from their hearts.
True
Somebody make the Torture dance without any music - just the sounds of them dancing!
Don't you get it? It's the vocal percussion on a whole 'nother level! Coming from my mind!
It's all in the mind, the lyrics say it!
It was coming from their minds
"Vocal percussion on a whole another level coming from my mind"
You cant rip off human heads? Kinda embarrassing ngl
Im sure some 6'8 athlete with an adrenaline rush could pull it off (pun intended)
@@baguetteboing lol no
A grown gorilla can't do that
@@juannaym8488 you're weaker than a hamster
according to this one quaro post i read you would need nearlt a ton of raw force to completely rip off a human head, i don't think a gorrile could do the movement of ripping off a human head with 1 ton of force, let alone an adrenaline rushed 6'8 athelete
@@pluggothesluggo5509 yeah these guys just watch too much bloody Hollywood movies and think humans are super weak.
"Overall. I'd say it's undeniable that Polnareff's fingers are pretty inconsistent" that's easily my new favourite quote of all time.
Dio was human less than a minute before his breath showed up, so his insides were likely still warm. At least that’s how I’d explain it
Maybe Giorno can give inanimate things life by touching them with any part of his stand, but in order to replicate a specific part of a living organism with enough precision to become part of the entire organism he needs to use Gold Experience's hands. I mean, you need a lot of precision to replicate a human hand complete with bones, nerves, and all sorts of veins reattaching to the severed part of the body and all while starting from a brooch
I also re-read part 5 and noticed that Giorno initially has the power to give life to inanimate objects and turn them into complete living organisms by touching them with any part of his body. During the fight with Baby Face, however, Giorno says he "matured" and is shown to now have the ability to create PARTS of an organism that can be reattached to an entire organism and work normally afterwards. This looks to me like a different ability, and maybe that's why it doesn't work like his regular, simple life-giving one. It could explain why he has to use his hands for this ability to work, seeing as it requires more precision and it's not as simple as touching something and turning it into plant or an animal, and also explains why the "parts" that are created don't act the same way as the organisms created normally (meaning they don't have the property of reflecting any damage taken to the aggressor, because they are a different part of Gold Experience's ability, that has different mechanics)
That makes no sense and if it was the case, then it would have been explained. Stop simping for Araki, geez.
I feel like this is the classic situation where I explained the facts and because it made sense, you got all butthurt in the feelings. You can't refute my points by saying: "It would've been explained", Araki doesn't explain a lot of things, but you can still understand most of them by carefully examining the details and reading between the lines. Just because you're lazy and you just want to say that he forgot, it doesn't mean that others can't read into things and make sense of them. Whether I'm right or wrong, it's the act of exploring the possibilities that is important
@@matteofaccin6636
Fair enough, however, he pretty much only doesn’t explain character motivations, meaning behind names, etc. He rigorously goes over the abilities and disadvantages of each of the characters in an entire page. So yeah, if he didn’t explain that, than it is a pretty big leap in logic to me. And, Bruno explains how he has to use his hands to activate it. Not that his hands have to be there in order for his power to work.
Fair point on Araki not explaining it, but Bruno never saw Giorno create life with anything except his hands. He didn't see the Black Sabbath fight, so he assumes that, just like Sticky Fingers, Gold Experience can only activate its ability through its fists. This is all speculation of course, but it does make sense to me
Lmao, he called Araki a fraud, funniest shit ive ever heard.
Lmao
same
Lol
1:06
Though this is definitely an Araki Forgot moment, I personally just think that the reason he didn't see the breathe was because he was just not breathing at all. Think about it.
He was a Hamon master, so it only makes sense that he makes Hamon with every single breathe he takes to the point he probably forgot how to normal breathe. If he is a vampire, he can accidentally self-destruct because he'll create Hamon subconsciously without batting an eye. So to remedy this, he just stopped breathing altogether.
Dio didn't had to deal with this, because he knew absolutely nothing about Hamon other than it is sparkly magical vampire-killing breathe.
it could be that dio was expelling all the air out of his body because he's a newly created vampire
Logical.
Nah Dio was just tryna be spooky then Araki thought to himself a corpse shouldn't expell hot air so that explains Straitzo
@@lostremnant also dio has just transformed when he can be seen breathing meaning he probably still had some hot air in his lungs while Straitzo has been a vampire for quite some time
@@SkeletalNoises I just assumed that vampires just breathed out colder air as part of their change, and straizo's breathing not being shown just happened to fit with that thought.
You forgot one.
Araki forgot to age or maybe he just rejected his humanity
Hes a pillerman
@@mikubrot he's a mineral homosapien
Hes a vampire
@@bluelandyaandgreenlandya1788 he Is a collum fellow
he's a stone dude
1:44 my head cannon is Bruno just made some assumption because Sticky Fingers worked like that, and Giorno went through all the trouble with the brooch just for convenience's sake
Welp sorry but youre wrong. This is one of my least favorite things in jojo, but jojo characters are always telling the truth (except for narancia during talking heads fight and kakyoins ,,mirror" and ,,no one can deflect emeraldo splasho" ). Even shigeci that knows nothing about killer Queen knows for no reason that its a close range power stand. Its mantained in every part, that's why its such a big deal in phf when murolo lies about his stand power, because normally jojo characters are unable to lie. I wish araki would let them thou, he limits them that way... So no, if jojo characters say something, there always right, because they have to deliver exposition to the viewer.
Ok @@totallynotdio1311, I'm sure you're totally not DIO here to ruin our fun
@@You-topia he has a point though
@@totallynotdio1311 the shigechi example is flawed as he was making an educated guess based on Kira qwyeen's design.
@@totallynotdio1311 he said HIS headcanon
The Mini Horse March is part 8's actual final villain
I knew it!
There's just something really funny about Araki accidently giving two stands the same name
Hey earth wind and fire go hard cant blame him
The horses are Stephen's stand
Then Y he no see other SUTANDO!?
@@AceTrainerX3 Araki forgot Steven Steel can see Stands yet didn't include his Requiem ability in the final battle.
Stephen had the ability to pick up a 14 year old child from a dying family
Araki Forgot moments according to fans: allegedly story-breaking plot-holes that can be easily explained.
Actual Araki Forgot moments: irrelevant inconcistencies.
And those "actual moments" aren't even plot holes as much as artistic style or mistakes. The tiny horse thing was more than likely just an aesthetic choice. Honestly this video is absolutely garbo, his other videos in the series are a ton better from what I've seen.
@@tranidite "as much as artistic style or mistakes"
That's... literally what I said...
Almost as if creators only consistently forget small details, and not major plotholes!
@@rogueObscura If it wasn't forgotten, it's not a plot hole. It would be a plot-point, but I agree.
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 the only significant one is the B.I.G fight where trish awaken her stand basically for nothing
KISS stand stats make sense if you view them as stats for the ability rather than the main stand itself.
A Power - The effect can damage nearly everything if not everything with no size limit
A Speed - The objects fly back together incredibly quickly
A Range - There is seemingly no limit as too how far away the objects can be brought away from each other
A Durability - The ability can be used repeatedly and is near impossible to destroy or prevent without something like GER
C Precision - The ability is focused on one task only with a few other applications
A Potential - The stand is not shown off much throughout the part so we don't know its true potential, it could possibly even hold the ability to duplicate stand objects and even stands themselves
Alright, but that raises another question, how in the world is Whitesnake's speed a D then? I know this is completely irrelevant, but it's something I want to point out, even looking at Whitesnake's ability, it's definitely not slow or below a human-like speed, in fact, technically since it seems to make the discs in its targets a bit beforehand, like with against Jolyne, when he talked about he he could almost just pinch it on out, and it showed a bit of the disc coming out, shouldn't that make it an incredibly fast ability speed if it's seemingly just relevant on if the person is being touched by the stand user at all?
@@asnailwithpizza9724 I would probably say that has to do with his mind-control/slime ability which he uses on Jolyene and Jotaro which was known to take some time
@@asnailwithpizza9724 A tad late, though the answer to this is that it was explained to be the acid attack Whitesnake uses. Remember, it takes quite awhile to do real damage
the A in potential makes sense because hermes literally figures out how to fly when she brings jotaro to the cmoon fight and during the MiH fight
Kiss act 2
Truth be told, by years I've been intrigued by those little horses. At first sight I interpreted them as Steven hability/stand used as means to oversee the race remotely (the tiny horses would represent and pinpoint the competitors).
Later on, it became obvious that Steven Steel had no such habilities and was not a big controlling mastermind and puppetmaster of the race progress as I initially antecipated.
Still, it's was an interesting, naturally sprouted concept at the time for me.
Would be interesting if Steven had any such special habilities. Judging by his noble soul, strong principles and the bravery shown at the end (saving Johnny even), I would say that his character clearly had fighting spirit and stand potential.
Afterwards he is eventually revealed to be a simple, honored, but anxious and insecure with no bigger agenda or ambitions besides hosting that great event.
It became obvious that he was only an good-ill promoter that was used by evil men. His purity of character was his flaw, exploited by others.
Steven was solid on his beliefs, loyal to the end, and I believe he deserved more recognition.
Hey @Hamon Beat, I would love to hear your opinion about the matter, the underuse of the character and what did you think of my initial tiny horse stand hipothesis. Wouldn't it be neat?
hmmm really made me think...
I can't believe Araki forgot the tiny horses, that is unforgivable
Most “Araki Forgot” moments are actually “the Reader forgot” moments.
Change my mind
*flashback to the Dio kicked with the wrong leg debacle*
@@Stephillpotten DIO didn't kick with the wrong leg. Both his legs were broken.
@@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 But it was stated that his left side is weaker than his right. It didn't help that his legs were broken, though.
Let me toss your salad instead 😋
nah
Art mistakes aren’t really araki forgot. When trying to get a multi page chapter put every week mistakes happen, just look at the g1 transformers show nearly no character has a consistent look.
TLDR: crunch leads to minor inconsistencies with art
I agree with this, and if you're reading the manga, you wouldn't really care.
Did two sentences really warrant a TLDR?
minor inconsistencues are still araki forgot even though insignificant
You commit on everyone of this guys videos
Pajamapants Jack stfu
The two biggest araki forgot is Avdols dads, and his chickens They could easily be the strongest characters even being able to beat G.e.R. Huge mistake.
"dads"
sus
DAD√√√
GE could just be upside down when he gives life to tree and branch part, cuz Giorno movements aren't restricted
And it can be just remade to "stand requires 2 hands, but can give life with life with any limb".
I'm pretty sure Giorno can't just attach limbs with his feet, that's why he's unable to do precise things such as healing or replacing limbs without his two working hands.
@@luisben101233 This makes way more sense as an explanation
@@luisben101233 But don't the limbs just fuse together. I don't see why you'd need precision. This one's definitely an error.
@@zh7334 he might misconnect vessels or nerves that way
We see that he didn't use his hands in the Black Sabbath fight. We don't know about the fish though.
Polnareff’s fingers man, it’s unforgivable to forget that
Another thing he actually forgot in a moment: In the original release of chapter 265 on the WSJ, Joseph mentions that his birthday is October 3, despite being listed as September 27 in previous publications. This is corrected in the volume release. This and also what we can also see in your Timeline inconsistencies video, Shows that what Araki really most forgets are the characters birthdays and ages, and not whole plots as people say
Messina lost his arm in a fight with Wham, but on the Joseph's funeral he has both arms
/but nobody cares about Messina though/
Didn't he die??
Celtic Fox that was “logs” as the dub would say
@@AmericanFry oh ok thank you
Wammu”
He's so forgettable they didn't even explain what happened to him in the future like they did for the rest of the characters. Would've been nice to see a bit more of the Hamon masters in general
5:10 I never thought Hamon beat could display this much emotion
I never thought hamon beat could display emotion.
He gets angry covering araki forgots all the time lol
the "Giorno needs his hands" could be written off as a misconception on Bruno's part
Why didn't giorno tell him that he was wrong tho, i think it's a small mistake. Dog't get me wrong, vento aureo is my favorite part lol
Imagine Giorno heals his hands while he is inside CocoJumbo and Trish comes in to give his hand. That awkward moment when you did a useless task for no reason XD
Then why did giorno bother with the brooch in the first place, and why didnt he correct bruno while they were talking about it
@@nightmare_creature3757 situational anxiety resulting in a stupid yet kinda understandable choice . Fuck ups may happen even if you are the most sensible person. But that's just my reasoning. It is what it is at the end. Just Araki not thinking of the past scenes. Or maybe 'healing' is separate from life giving maybe that can explain what happend.
@@tuc-kaankaraayan Well, Gold Experience and Giorno himself definitely CAN create life with parts of their body other than their hands, so Bruno was flat-out wrong when he said that Gold Experience was like Sticky Fingers and needed to contact things with its hands in order to change them. But Giorno probably does need the use of his hands to actually attach the new body parts. I guess only Giorno can attach them too, seeing as it's his ability and al-
-Oh, wait, no. That's completely wrong since he has no fucking hands when Trish gets the brooch and Giorno gets his left hand back. If he needed at least one hand to do that then there would've been no way for him to stick it back on. Sorry, tried to reason it out but a ginormous logical inconsistency shot that whole theory down. Giorno should have been able to turn something like a chair armrest into a new hand with his feet and have it attach itself back onto him. Araki forgot. And then unforgot the next time he needed Giorno to use something other than his hands to transmute something. Araki forgot and Bruno is kind of dumb sometimes. Maybe chalk up Giorno not correcting him to being passed out from shock or something. At least that makes some kind of sense, maybe.
4:57 Araki also made Gold Experience's stand stats really confusing. It has a 'C' in power, which makes sense for the fight with Sticky Fingers, but after that his stand seems equal to Sticky Fingers. He also has a 'C' in precision which is just really random.
Not as random as Dio having a B in precision when it seems to be just as precise as Star Platinum. Even worse, King Crimson has an E in range when his range is 2-3 meters, the same as Crazy Diamond which has a D in range. Araki is a crackhead.
@@ProjektTaku Dio's B in precision is based off him getting excited and losing focus more than the World's actual precision.
@@debigboix4390 Really? I don't see how that would correlate with the stand's precision, considering it matched all of Star Platinum's super-precise blows, just seems weird for it be be based on the users accuracy.
The B in durability is also very strange but I can accept it since The World obviously cracked way more in the final battle.
yeah, it's confusing and very uncertain whether stats refer to abilities or base strength at times but that's just how it is
1:08 I don't really see the problem with this. At that point Dio had only just became a vampire so his body temperature would be closer to a human making his breath visible.
I can't thank you enough for this video series. It was so good for Arali's reputation as an author and clearing misconception about our favorite manga.
_Arigato_ Hamon Beat... You are truly a bless for the JoJo Community...
Based Hamon Beat returns
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@@thegodofsoapkekcario1970 Based
*_BASED ON WHAT?!?!?!?!_*
Based and Mini Horse pilled
*racist
4:50 Sometimes, Stand stats can refer to the ability of a Stand, like Whitesnake’s speed stat being D, referring to the slowness of Melt Your Heart’s effect on its victims. Thus, the A in Kiss’ destructive power could be referring to how removing a sticker from a cloned object would have it travel back to the original with great force, effectively destroying the object
White snake is generally stated to be very slow stand though. Even Pucci seems to think so with how carefully he uses it.
The mini horse march is probably because Valentine went into a miniature universe and brought them out for show.
That actually makes sense.
Mini Valentine
Tiny D4C using a napkin to teleport
And the furtive Jojo, so easily forgotten.
Is that a mf Dark Souls reference!?
@@imperialquietus9977 You bet.
Nice reference
High quality memes here.
Little mistakes like this make me appreciate the effort that goes into illustration. When you're writing a comic, your first priority is the story, characters, and themes, not continuity and consistency... though they help a lot. To err is human, and little inconsistencies give things a human edge.
He still earns the "Araki Forgot" joke more than most of the creators tho. Also consistency is part of the story itself if you are not writing with part to part system where you have to connect different storys.
@@cangirayicel7639 ehh , I don't know about that one chief...Lets talk the Obito situation from Naruto when he "died" under the rocks , but later on revealed that he survived.....A youtuber by the name of Swagkage dissects Inconsistencies in Naruto and there are a lot and HUGE plot based things are forgotten , So I don't know about you but Kishimoto forgot is a lot more fitting lol . There are more creators who do things worse or equal do this so maybe lay off Araki forgot and say araki mini forgot
@@cangirayicel7639 are you sure? Last I checked, Akira Toriyama, the writer for Dragon Ball, entirely neglected Launch as character due to him forgetting about her existence.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 l didn't watch DB but Araki did more than forgetting one character.
@@cangirayicel7639 No most of the "Araki Forgot" claims are just the result of anime-only fans, anime AND manga fans not paying attention to the plot, or accepting rumors instead of doing research.
Araki didn't forget the mini horses he's clearly going to reveal them as the main antagonists of part 8
1:07 Actually, I'm pretty sure this is consistent, since the visible condensation is caused by the interaction between cold and hot air. When Dio transforms, his breath is cold, causing condensation. We know that the air around isn't that cold, because the breath of the other characters is not visible. This is opposed to when we see the air being cold enough for Joseph's breath to be visible, so Straits' breath would not be visible due to it being closer in temperature to the chilled air outside.
I think the same
All this talk of things that "Araki forgot" yet I'm surprised that Araki forgot to let Giorno's friends call him GioGio.
Honest talk, after part 2 the "nickname" JOJO is an afterthought, they mention it at the beggining of parts 3,4 and 5 (Can't remember if it is mentioned in part 6), but after the first chapeter or so, they don't refer to the MC's as Jojo, well, I think Old Joseph calls Jotaro "Jojo" a couple of times but I am not too sure
@@rickydargence5948 Jotaro was called jojo until the yellow temperance fight.
They stopped using JoJo when more than one JoJo was alive. It became more like a inside joke for the audience trying to connect the names
I’m starting to genuinely wonder what the move “Hamon Beat” would be.
Its actually a cropped sound from the arcade game, Heritage to the Future, where Joseph says "Feel the beat of my hamon" or something like that in japanese
@@averonisgaming9023 Yeah I thought so, given that he says "hamon NO beat" in his phrase
@@averonisgaming9023 "Kizamu-ze! Hamon no Bito!" is the full quote. Meaning: "Tear them apart! Hamon Beat!"
And Young Joseph sends Hamon through the Super Aja. Like Lisa Lisa does in the manga/anime.
@@TheSixthDoctor oh mb, I must've found a mistranslation.
@@averonisgaming9023 Eyes of Heaven translate that same line as "feel the beat of my hamon"
Actualy, Dio would still have warm air in his body right after he becomes a vampire, as it would not have cooled the air already in his lungs, while straizo was a vampire for quite some time so the air in his lungs would not have been heated by his body heat, and thus there would not have been fog
how dare you imply Mikitaka's Earth Wind and Fire is a stand and not an alien power
Stands are from an alien asteroid
@@ruchick6155 goteem
@@ruchick6155 by that logic all stands are tecnically alien powers
You forgot the biggest Araki forgot of them all: How to draw dogs
Doesn't he forget that he forgot that and draw dogs good again
Iggy looks human
No wonder why Danny was killed so early
*see's title*
me: YOU'VE BECOME WHAT YOU SOUGHT TO DESTROY!
I don't like it when people still say "it's a joke" or "r/whoooosh" when the person obviously understood that it was a joke.
Francisco Rendón
ok good for you
@@Unknown-hb3id If you're okay with it then there's no problem. Thank you.
@@franciscorendon2783 do u know random people?
@Ionut Ionut k
regarding the Earth Wind and Fire, would be cool to keep both names the same proving Mikitaka is actually an alien so it's not the name of a stand but the name of an alien ability.
Yes but he really doesn't want to confirm or deny what Mikitaka is
The vampire breath thing can actually be explained pretty easily: Vampire breath is always cold.
In Straitzo's case, it was already cold outside, so his breath matched the current temperature, meaning nothing appeared.
However, in Dio's case, it was relatively warm in the mansion. Nobody else's breath was visible but Dio's. This means that the room's temperature was at least slightly warmer than Dio's breath.
I mean it's pretty minor stuff to be honest, but I think that's the pont of HB, it doesn't relly matter, because JJBA is just that good.
Maybe we can asume Straizo realised that, as a vampire he does not need to breathe, I mean as far as we know. Or maybe Dio still had "human air" in his lungs.
It's also possible that vampires don't need to breath, but still have working lungs. Dio could have simply been making deliberate use of this for the sake of appearing more intimidating.
Well I think its actually much simpler. Dio's body was still warm. Straizo was out and about in the cold air for minutes, maybe even hours at that point, and its fair to say hes been a vampire for days. Dio was a regular alive human just a minute before. Hes been dead and cold for at MOST 5 minutes, so it makes sense hed still be warm.
I feel like I heard from somewhere that Straizo actually had to completely change his breathing patterns since, you know, hamon is deadly to vampires. So maybe his breathing was just very irregular and sporadic, or he really wasn't breathing.
I have no proof of this claim though, just wild speculation. Been a while since I watched part 2.
@@Fioriole That does make sense actually. Straizo was a hamon master as a human, and as such would have habitually breathed in a way that generated hamon. IIRC this was how he killed himself too.
Dio never learned to use hamon as a human, and obviously never could after becoming a vampire.
JoJo kinda sucks. At least parts 1-5 do, I haven't read the manga.
Edit: I said something this unpopular without backing it up and 2 days later no one cares. That's surprising. Well, I'm not complaining
5:17 i love how tiny horses was the one to break him.
To be fair, for the Dio Scene with the breath he JUST transformed. He's likely still got lingering body heat from when he was human. Straizo, on the other hand, had transformed a while ago.