I think that coloring is made by AI There's also a panel of Giorno's hand the thing is the inside of Giorno's shirt is skin colored, so that's another suspicion
@@Yumbos AI wasn't capable of that kind of work back in 2008. It's probably just underpaid interns/assistants whose mistakes slip under the radar until it's too late. These things happen. DBZ still gets printed with the original toner screen mistakes made by assistants, for example.
I just LOVE Araki's mentality about color, how it doesn't have to be limited by consistency or other things like that, and how you can go wild with different combinations or stetics, like white hair with purple clothes and green shoes.
@@truelich1231 and that has become a characteristic of JoJo's character. They look out of the ordinary to seem unique. It also attracts people. You can say his art style is quite **Bizarre*
another problem i like to point out about the colored jojo scans is that they often ignore the actual shading araki does with screentones, every time araki uses screentones to put shadows on the character's faces the shadows are often ignored and the faces are shaded as if theres no shading done by araki himself
@@crystalalumina that's pretty much because from what i've read so far from one piece oda doesn't seem to use screentones for the sake of shading but rather for the sake of making things stand out better like making a character face all screentone to make the character stand out from the white background, however they do have the same problem of shading everything the same no matter what like they don't really have a light source
This is why I always found it funny when I saw certain fans complain that Giorno's suit colour was "changed" to pink. Even the colours used for the action figures are more "official" than Shueisha's hit-and-miss digital colour scans.
I always found it odd that Giorno had pink instead of blue, but this does explain some of it. Does this mean thst the fighting games followed the Shueisha colors instead of asking Araki?
@@Zero-ds9ws His outfit appears in blues and greens in certain volume covers as well as the 2002 Capcom beat em up. PS3 All Star Battle released after the colored scans started but didn't follow em 1:1 so who knows if Giorno's palette was based on those.
I bought a physical copy of the stardust crusaders manga. I can confirm that the physical stuff is genuinely pretty amazing. The vanilla ice fight is so good on the page...
my sister gave me the fourth part 2 jojonium for christmas (which has everything after caesar dies), it was like rediscovering a part i already loved, the chariot fight was just incredible!
I've been inspired by araki's coloured artworks. Ever since I watched and read Jojo, all of my artworks whenever I color them, I give them F U N K Y C O L O R S
it makes it alot more fun to do, just going crazy with colours. I used to be afraid of coloring my art before because i feared id ruin it but it’s pretty freeing when you take up a wacky color palate.
@@Joanbueller007 Yeah, besides minor mistakes like Narancia's boom box, the anime is really polished and it really shows the passion of all the people who worked on it. Ik it's a little stupid but I don't pirate JoJo out of respect for DP lol.
One thing I feel needs to be mentioned is that despite the anime having "consistent" color schemes, they still use a _lot_ of scenes where they completely upend the color scheme into someting visually striking, especially in a tense scene (which, admittedly, is 90% of Jojo). Not just in a sense of "Giorno has blue hair now" but rather "Joseph Joestar is a pulsing rainbow gradient covered in halftone". Absolutely fabulous. Still can't get over the bold artistic decision to have Morioh covered in yellow skies, lime green streets and deep purple trees for the majority of the anime.
The manga should be read in b&w but I find it easier in some action scenes to see what's going on in color. All the black ink just blends together for me in the fuller pages.
I agree. I think a good part of that is in part due to the the quality if the scans, if I were reading the actual manga then I'm sure the details would be a lot clearer, but with the scans I was checking out a lot of the action scenes seemed really busy and it was hard to make out exactly what was going on. Another thing is that I'd switch between my phone and my laptop, and reading the black and white on a phone just makes the issue worse (which Hamon Beat mentioned in the video). In any case I always took the colored versions to be non-canon since most JoJo characters don't have things like canon outfit/hair colors, so it's never been an issue for me to see the anime portray characters one way while the manga portrays them another, and the random flaws in the coloring don't really bother me when I'm reading.
@@tafazzi-on-discord there are some pages that are impossible to understand. But I agree with hamon that it's better to read in B&W, you can see way better the details of the drawing that way.
Tooru's clothes are also scuffed. He's obviously wearing a vest/sleeveless hoodie over an other shirt. But he's drawn as if it's one single single piece of clothing.
That's the worst part of the Shueisha scans, they just turn so many things as monochrome and smudge over details for the sake of painting them faster sadly
I honestly don't like black and white, for other manga i genuinely understand things pretty well but for JoJo, a lot of the fights are pretty confusing and the colors help me figure out what's even goin on.
No other part of the manga visually confuses me like part five...don’t get me wrong, the art is incredible, but araki’s use of tone and solid black in almost every panel along with the bold pen used to draw the backgrounds gives me a headache when the characters are fighting. The man in the mirror fight, for example, was awesome but trying to figure out what was happening was very tricky
@@onewheeljoeswanson1780 My greatest difficulty was actually King Crimson specially the Bruno and GER fights, i can now understand why "It Just Works" was such a big meme back then.
I always found it interesting how the colored scans for part 7 actually goes through a pretty significant change that makes it feel way different from chapter 1 to the end of the part. I especially noticed it at first in the arc with Mandom. Personally I find some of the colored pages such as Tusk Act 4's reveal to be very pretty. Things like how KC's time skip dimension is portrayed in the colored scans also made it feel easier for me to process what's going on in the page. The good bits of the colored scans such as those really just make me appreciate Araki's drawings overall.
Part 7 might have the worst colored scans imo, mostly because of how it blurs out the hatchmarking and the backgrounds are always these soft gradient colors, which makes for the complete opposite effect intended (that being visual contrast to the action in the foreground). Part 1 & 2 have pretty decent colored scans, and yes they do help make really complicated stuff more readable but Part 7 really suffers, especially its background art.
@@SerenGetteri thought so too, alot of the really contrasting details just gets coloured out. But, I did read all of it in coloured, and I just simply enjoyed the story. Dunno why i even-
Part 5 really benefits with colour, part of the reason why the Manga version was one of my least favourite Manga Parts for a while was because of the black and white scans making Scenes and Arcs nearly impossible to follow. Like, you tell me that Man in the Mirror, White Album, Bruno vs Diavolo (King Crimson especially fucks me off in the Manga) and Oasis are easy to follow in B&W. It's a massive reason why I find the Anime version to be infinitely superior, despite it following the exact same plot and pacing.
I’ve read part 8 and it was a bit of a challenge to adapt to the black and white halfway through, but once I got used to it the art admittedly looks a lot better and really feels like a manga
@@crystalalumina I am 6 months late to this but I am finishing up stone ocean colored and I really want to read part 7 in black white should I do it or stick with colored
@@duragchirag1899 change to black and white in part 8 if u want to But it's still ok if you wanna continue part 8 in coloured Sorry though for me being late
@Durag Chirag sorry for the late response, but I definitely recommend Steel Ball Run in black and white, people say the coloring looks good, but for me it looks ugly, it adds to much detail to already very detailed drawings, I mean Lucy's face somehow looks older in the colored version for example, also the first chapters are like the worst part, they look smudged over and everything looks like clay, definitely parts 7 and 8 should be read in black and white
@@emerald3616 A lot of stands by pass it though, especially wonder of u. ger activates when you intend to harm Giorno, However if Giorno aims to pursue and kill Tooru or Wonder of U hes a goner as Tooru doesbt have any intent to kill Giorno its just an automatic ability.
I have trouble distinguishing different objects and characters when reading the black and white manga, so I choose to read it colored, as it's easier for me. This is, for some reason, only an issue with JoJo. No other manga I've read has given me this issue.
Same, years ago I read part 5 without color and I just couldn’t make sense of what I was seeing for the most part despite manga being my preferred way to experience stories. I rather like Araki’s art style but damn it’s hard to make sense of some of the busier pages (at least for me)
@@jage6344 I mean, i'm not gonna argue that i'm not stupid, but like everybody else here, its just araki's art style that makes it a bit tricky to tell what's going on.
I honestly feel kinda sad I only read in color until part 8. Some of the pages I thought just looked bad actually look pretty good in black and white. Oh well, guess it's an excuse to reread the whole series without the coloring
I wish to. I was reading Jojo's from Manga Rock and they did a weird listing where individual parts were collared but the original manga was named as a compilation or something like that. That is why I read only the coloured and downloaded them before the app closed. I was reading part 6. And now I'm switching to monochrome. In the future, I will definitely reread the series. Maybe I will even learn Japanese.
I always read jojolion in black and white and after seeing this colores pages for the first time I can say that the original versions looks way better. At least IMO
Same. When i read Part 1 in colored manga, for some reason a lot of thing felt so off and inaccurate compared to the anime (you may say that it's cuz my memory and fondness of part 1). But when i finished reading the colored manga and start reading the B&W for confirmation, suddenly it looks beautiful and the anime felt faithful to the core. It's just shows how much dedication David Production puts in the animation
where can you find good black and white scans, please tell me lol. i’ve been looking for months and i can only find ones with really shit translation if i can find them at all im desperate
Man this video opened my eyes I've always thought the colors didn't had that Jojo feel on the manga, it didn't have the stylish colorful look araki does in his painted jobs, and sometimes felt cheaply made This context made me respect even more araki's work, unfortunately I can't read the physical copy, but I'll go for black and white digital anyway.
Here in Italy we have Jojolion translated, at 10:06 you can see the cover made by star comics an Italian company that sells mangas and comics in general.
Abbiamo sempre avuto un gran culo per quanto riguarda JoJo, diversamente dagli americani. Sono state fatte diverse ristampe negli ultimi decenni a partire dal '93, non ne siamo mai stati a corto diciamo
I prefer the colour because it gives the manga a bit more life. I do agree that the details in the black and white look phenomenaly better then the colour scans and I might even re read them in black and white but only if I can get physical copies cause I read all the coloured ones on my phone
Araki’s art in black and white is so good, it’s a shame there’s people out there who aren’t willing to experience it. Also, Tooru’s recent color scheme within the shueisha scans is atrocious. So many conflicting colors and pallets really ruins a lot of the great moments we’ve had in the wonder of u arc.
I advised one of my friends to stop reading the coloured version as soon as she reaches the Head Doctor's first apparition. I showed her the Shueisha colours when she was done and she understood why I gave this advice. Wonder Of U and Tooru are my favourite JoJolion characters, and they got absolutely destroyed
@@C7007 I also prefer the black and white for jojolion but I gotta admit if they give Johnny that God AWFUL green outfit like in eyes of heaven I'm gonna be disappointed
@@praisethecatss4089 Oh those Eyes of Heaven Colours for Johnny and Gyro look atrocious. I'm not a fan of Araki going overboard with colours and throwing consistency out of the window, but I'd easily take something like those over the putrid and oversaturated Green and Blue colours EoH Johnny and Gyro have.
Jobin in color is just a thing of beauty, but love how you called me out on waiting for more official color scans lmao I'm still waiting! i respect Black white so much more now after showing those smuge comparisons! ty Hamon Beat
It’s funny that the Part 6 anime fixed just about every color problem you mentioned aside from Lang Wrangler. I guess they really didn’t wanna animate his exposed shoulders lol
I don't know if i am the only one but i can't read mangas normally without colors because most of the time i doesn't understand what is happening on the page. With colors i understand the position of characters, objects and locations much better.
Could be your reading and on to small the screen, or without proper lighting. I struggled with this too before I got a tablet and started reading and on that, Most physical manga is printed too small for me because I have bad eyesight.
then that is a bad mangaka. araki black and white drawings are completely perfect in most cases (you know, for manga viewing standards), so being un able to tell what is going on would be an issue. you would probably need a bigger screen.
You're not quite the only one. When it comes to getting into manga, especially if you're used to anime or even stuff like your average American comic books, the black and white is a bit of a pill to swallow whether it's you basically going against how in most instances we're trained to view black and white as either a sign of ye olden times or as a sign of a lack of budget and sometimes... the art can be a struggle whether you have actual diagnosed problems that impede on this or it could just be a matter of experiences varying from person-to-person. Much like how one person can view a piece of art as great and another as a piece of garbage, some people can adapt quickly to the detail and know what's going on from the get-go and others may struggle and on devices that can be tricky. I mean it's why the Jump Digital Color stuff exists because indeed when trying to read on certain devices, let me tell you, it can be HELL on the eyes trying to figure out what's going on. So really, don't feel bad for your choice, especially since the video is not about putting down those who happen to have that preference. It's just about explaining the source of the scans, the purpose they serve and the issues they have to counter the misconceptions that surround them. If you prefer it a certain way though then by all means, continue enjoying it in that manner since what matters is that you're still getting into the story and hopefully enjoying it all the same.
Bro you literally change the way I see the colors in the scans. I remember that I kinda refuse to read Jojolion too bc it was black and white but like it’s better that way rather than saturated colors that kill my eyes. Thanks for the video.
wow I am addicted to this channel blew my mind learning about the scans, I loved the colored scans and assumed they were the official colors. never noticed the airbrush effect until now. Keep up the great work man love the content.
When I read the colored scans, I assumed they were the work of dedicated fans- so I just assumed the DIO meeting Pucci at daytime stuff was a harmless mistake; I was just glad that they had gone through the trouble of doing their best to enhance the experience. Knowing they’re official has changed my view lmao
I was reading parts 1-7 on my phone and I can confirm that colours really helped me to see wtf was actually happening. If I had a choice I would love to read it on paper, but yeah.... The manga is kinda expensive for me- I would like to collect it in English. Recently JJBA has been started to be published in my first language, but still I would rather have it in English. Also it's funny how fans were accusing Araki of even more 'forget moments', but he had really nothing to do with this. I love color schemes in his artworks- they change and surprise me. Like for example redhead Dio- pls he looks so good.
Im actually reading the physical part 4 manga in english, and I love actually being able to stop and see the detailed artwork with my own eyes rather than an image of them on a screen. Koichi confronting Kira was amazing to read physically
thank you very much for puttin this video together. this can sometimes be a really frustrating conversation to have, but you covered all the major points in a very clear and concise way.
The fight with it and Born this Way are the best colored sections in the series. Especially since Doobie Wah also utilizes the anime's "dramatic color change" technique in some panels.
Very nice video, this is very informative since not many go in depth on the colored scans beyond just going "no canon colors". I prefer color altogether though of course reading manga you get used to black and white. But I can understand your preferences
I always knew the colored versions were not done by Araki, many manga's are not colored by their authors and the physical copies are usually in black and white (or sometimes red) but understanding that I still prefer JoJo's in color. Just gives it a bit more funk imo.
The only reason I read the colored manga is cuz I genuinely cannot follow any action taking place in black and white manga. Doesnt matter if its JoJo's, One Punch Man, or any other series, I just cannot read the action if its not colored. Thus I'll take a flawed colored version over a black and white version anyway
I remember when I first started reading I started with colored adventure purely because I wasn't used to B&W manga, plus Araki's detailed pieces just made things even harder to understand. In hindsight, I realize it was just because I was reading it on a phone, and like you pointed out, the colored pages look better on a phone. Looking at the same B&W pages either on a bigger screen or physically in your hands make it so much clearer and a genuinely better experience than the colored pages on a phone, and *infinitely* better than colored pages on anything other than a phone.
this is why i love the anime's take on colors. there is a consistent, canonical color scheme, however they frequently go pretty crazy to emphasize scenes, emotions, or any other thing. color is used as a tool, to be used however the scene demands, just like anything else
Yeah I've never been a fan of the color version of Jojo, which has sadden me for some time because I always thought that they were made by Araki, but only just found out around the start of Part 8 that they're not by him at all. Now it just frustrates me, because it's very clear Araki is a master of color and design, but what's portrayed in the colored manga is nowhere near his mastery for colors. If anything, I think people should realize that Araki experiments with color schemes ALL of the time, and anyone who's a fan of his should too experiment with their palettes and be loose when making fanart. And if you don't know how too or are too timid to experiment, I recommend the book "A Dictionary of Color Combinations" by Sanzo Wada.
fascinating stuff. this makes me want to reread the whole series purely in black and white rather than color i admit i have been loving the black and white chapters in jojolion and i love the fan-color edits, but i do want to experience the series purely, like you said
I never noticed the mistakes until just now. I really don't usually pay much attention. I read most of my JoJo as the manga form (I have read the first couple of parts in their English form physically). I decided to go online for the others (I kind of did a juggle between the original and the coloured versions), although I still do have some of the JoJolion manga and read them despite my lackluster Japanese linguistic skills.
reading in black and white threw me off a little bit, but now i dont really have a problem with it anymore. However i would always prefer the coloured manga over the black and white one, simply because i like it better. The points you made were valid, however one shouldnt bash people for enjoying the coloured manga more (OBVIOUSLY)
i have been reading manga since i was 12, and in all this time i have never found a fandom so evasive of the original black and white version, i've read some jojo parts including the first one in black and white and never had an issue with it, but other people say araki's drawing are confusing.
They probably read the B&W versions on a small screen, so it's understandable they'd prefer the colored scans I say, it's better if you read the B&W versions on a computer or buy it physically.
@@hollowsid9623 i would say jojo's doesn't really translate well to small screen,mainly because of paneling issues, Still readeable but a bit of a pain in the ass. so you are probably right
They are also most probably oversaturated and need some deviant art furry - like saturation or aren't capable of distinguish forms... or using shitty definition on phones. Or never tried to read One Piece.
Good video man. It's good to point out the many errors of the official scans, and it's important to emphasize that Jojo has no canon colors (mostly). To be honest, it was annoying to see people complaining about Giorno's clothes when GW was being aired. And I can agree with you that Araki's work looks better in paper. On the other hand, sometimes Jojo can be hard to understand when you read it in black and white. Maybe it's just me, that I'm not used to read manga, but a lot of time I found myself completely clueless about what I've read in Jojolion. That didn't happened to me in Steel Ball Run. What I'm saying is that the colors scans make the visuals less ambiguous for new readers like myself.
I like how the Anime occasionally references the Colorized Manga's palettes for some characters, like Jotaro's Alternate Part 3 Color Scheme, shown during Dio's Time Stops, and how he has the navy hair and clothes, with the magenta-esque shirt.
I think Giorno's outfit is a bit of a special case. Sure, the blue may not have been the original intended color, but the light pink in the anime is still a far cry from the manga, especially since in the original black and white version, it's colored dark as if it's supposed to be a darker color.
@@benet3931 I think there's an obvious difference there. Leaving the night sky white is something many mangakas do in order to save ink; they can rely on readers to know it's nighttime based on context clues. It's far different from intentionally shading a character's outfit to be darker.
I think the colored manga are for fans of the anime that have never read manga before but want to read ahead. I think this is most likely the case as first-time manga readers might find it hard to transition from anime to manga
Agreed. I started reading it after part 5 anime ended and its a relief that i havent read it in b&w. If there wouldnt be a colored version i would have dropped it.
fr... when Jojolion's coloured pages stopped i begrudgingly went over to the black and white. the colours are just softer for my eyes But I'm caught up to Jojolion and am used to the b&w. I'll be reading jojo over in b&w from now
I’d like to add while sometimes it can be ‘difficult’ to follow along in B&W, trust me when I say 90% of the time, it’s simply a bad scan. Take a look at any of physical copies for the the volumes. It’s extremely clear and don’t have to worry about stuff like saturation and brightness on your phone. Plus, if you go to Barnes & Noble, you get a really cool looking book.
I understand the whole problem of coloring mistakes, of course clothes shouldn't be skin colored or vice versa. However, the point about it being blurry is a misunderstanding. It appears to be more blurry because of contrast, not because of bad lines or less lines. Black and white will always look clearer than colored images, since the contrast is lower in the colored ones.
Not entirely. The anime doesn't look blurry (albeit definitely less detailed), because they use flats for coloring instead of color gradients. Color gradients may be more realistic, but often make surfaces look softer than the linework may suggest. The color scans definitely look airbushed.
Absolutely agree with you in regards to B&W manga vs colored - I see a lot of people nowadays complaining about how there are so few colored manga, but what they don't seem to realize is that depicting things in a grayscale fashion takes just as much skill, if not moreso thanks to the pallet limitations. I often find fully colored manga dull by comparison, or else too busy for my eyes to really appreciate. Plus, having the manga traditionally in B&W makes the covers and celebratory color pages feel more special.
I think part of the issue is that some of the easily available BW scans, especially for Part 1, are of pretty poor quality, to the point that it’s often difficult to tell what’s actually going on because the contrast’s way too high. I restarted Part 1 in color because the BW was genuinely confusing at times, and from there I kinda just stuck with it until I caught up with Jojolion.
The few color scheme I enjoy a lot is the Love Train arc, the entire lighting was just beautiful and holy, but other times, it just did too much mistake that I can't forgive them
9:50 I can attest to that. The first time I saw Jojonium in a bookstore, I finally understood why people read the manga in black and white. The lines and etches look gorgeous on printed paper. Even Part 1 looks great! A bitmap scan cannot do justice to the beauty of Araki’s line work. If you can, read the manga printed.
i love that jojo stuff is on my feed now, and ive actually been reading the black and manga, when its colored on a few pages i love seeing how they are colored
Id love to see a fan project that goes through and recolors pages with more vivid and imaginative color schemes. Maybe taking a collaborative approach with tons of artists coloring their own pages in their own unique ways, and compiling it together.
0:24 I've already read JoJolion, I've studied Jobin's face to learn how to replicate the artstyle, I fucking adore Part 8, and I would just stare at some panels just because they were gorgeous. I just noticed Jobin has the Higashikata family crest on his lower button.
I loved the colouring especially part 6 and 7.one of my favourite parts of the colouring were the colours used for stands they look as of they glow. Best example for this would be Jolyne stand, the blue they use is actually beautiful and looks great in the coloured pages.
Sadly my first redthroughs were digital colourised and I actually had a break on jojolion because I thought it didn’t go past the coloured chapters. But after buying the physical manga 1-3 you can just tell how much better it looks
It's disappointing that some people only wanna look at coloured versions of JoJo. It's a big problem in America I feel as people want coloured comics but unfortunetely I think both the feel of the art is lost and many colourists do horrible jobs. Where it looks to digital and they use cheap Photoshop tricks that look horrible and tacky. Glad I have black and white versions of some of stardust crusaders, cause honestly I wouldnt wanna look at any other versions. I'm also loving the monochrome colours for some of the pages that were selected in the printing process. That's how it should be done in my opinion.
Reading the colored scans physically would be atrocious and vice versa for the black and white. Seriously, black and white manga on paper (assuming a good print job by the publisher) looks FANTASTIC and is very good to read, whereas most color pages tend to look worse without extra care
Amazing video! I've always thought the coloured version was far inferior to the original B&W, and I'm glad I'm not alone. I even imported physical copies of all of Part 5 just to see Araki's art as originally intended. Really appreciate you making this video!
I prefer reading JoJo in colors because sometimes I can't understand what the hell is going on when a new stand power shows up or a weird scene is happening.
Part of what makes araki's work so amazing is his variation in colors and designs, even drawing characters in completely different outfits later on (I mean just look at his newer drawings of Jonathan and Joseph)
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The fact that they made it daytime during Pucci and Dio's meeting without remembering that Dio is a vampire and can't be in sunlight is hilarious.
Shueisha forgot 💀💀💀💀
Listen kid, i don't have much time...
I think that coloring is made by AI
There's also a panel of Giorno's hand the thing is the inside of Giorno's shirt is skin colored, so that's another suspicion
@@Yumbos AI wasn't capable of that kind of work back in 2008. It's probably just underpaid interns/assistants whose mistakes slip under the radar until it's too late. These things happen. DBZ still gets printed with the original toner screen mistakes made by assistants, for example.
Even the anime got that shit right 💀
The fact that they managed to translate Araki's concept of colours into the anime is amazing and so characteristical
Not hard if he tells you what color stuff is supposed to be
@@gamee6245 maybe he means when in some scenes the colors Swap, like joseph with green hair and purple outfit
characteristical
@@gamee6245 Araki didn't interfere in their business until Part 4. David Production choosed the colors in first 3 parts.
@kayrapampar they still got their shit right when it came to Part 3 Jotaro having green eyes compared to the colored scans
I just LOVE Araki's mentality about color, how it doesn't have to be limited by consistency or other things like that, and how you can go wild with different combinations or stetics, like white hair with purple clothes and green shoes.
and green or blue lipstick :D
@@fourty9933 :)
He has very wierd fashion taste tbh
@@truelich1231 and that has become a characteristic of JoJo's character. They look out of the ordinary to seem unique. It also attracts people. You can say his art style is quite **Bizarre*
He has a really really good handle on color theory
another problem i like to point out about the colored jojo scans is that they often ignore the actual shading araki does with screentones, every time araki uses screentones to put shadows on the character's faces the shadows are often ignored and the faces are shaded as if theres no shading done by araki himself
That's usually a problem with the colored versions of Shueisha, the only one that doesn't seem to suffer much from that is One Piece
This reminds me of inkers vs designers in western comics
@@crystalalumina that's pretty much because from what i've read so far from one piece oda doesn't seem to use screentones for the sake of shading but rather for the sake of making things stand out better like making a character face all screentone to make the character stand out from the white background, however they do have the same problem of shading everything the same no matter what like they don't really have a light source
This is why I always found it funny when I saw certain fans complain that Giorno's suit colour was "changed" to pink. Even the colours used for the action figures are more "official" than Shueisha's hit-and-miss digital colour scans.
I just noticed that, it's really strange did they ask Araki? i wish we could have a figure with color changing paint that would be really cool
No it's not
I always found it odd that Giorno had pink instead of blue, but this does explain some of it. Does this mean thst the fighting games followed the Shueisha colors instead of asking Araki?
@@Zero-ds9ws His outfit appears in blues and greens in certain volume covers as well as the 2002 Capcom beat em up. PS3 All Star Battle released after the colored scans started but didn't follow em 1:1 so who knows if Giorno's palette was based on those.
@@notangevip537 damn that's no a dumb idea
I bought a physical copy of the stardust crusaders manga. I can confirm that the physical stuff is genuinely pretty amazing. The vanilla ice fight is so good on the page...
my sister gave me the fourth part 2 jojonium for christmas (which has everything after caesar dies), it was like rediscovering a part i already loved, the chariot fight was just incredible!
Thank you for giving the manga a chance!
The whole sacrifice and death of iggy in manga is so perfect that turned one of my favorite moments of JOJO
i just ordered the last volume of part 2 and the first of part 3
@@kaystar64 lol i just ordered that volume
I've been inspired by araki's coloured artworks. Ever since I watched and read Jojo, all of my artworks whenever I color them, I give them F U N K Y C O L O R S
Same
It never looks boring 😌
TIME TO GET FUNKE
Haha same! They just make the art look more eye catching
it makes it alot more fun to do, just going crazy with colours. I used to be afraid of coloring my art before because i feared id ruin it but it’s pretty freeing when you take up a wacky color palate.
Sameee
It's so weird to think that the manga's colors were the mistakes, not the anime adaptation's
More proof the anime is really well made. I can't imagine all the work they do to make everything perfect and in just a few years.
And they correct plot holes too
@@Joanbueller007 Yeah, besides minor mistakes like Narancia's boom box, the anime is really polished and it really shows the passion of all the people who worked on it. Ik it's a little stupid but I don't pirate JoJo out of respect for DP lol.
@@nicoco678 same, all the work in animation, sound desing, coloring, backgrounds, theme songs, voice acting is amazing
@@Joanbueller007 how? Any examples?
One thing I feel needs to be mentioned is that despite the anime having "consistent" color schemes, they still use a _lot_ of scenes where they completely upend the color scheme into someting visually striking, especially in a tense scene (which, admittedly, is 90% of Jojo). Not just in a sense of "Giorno has blue hair now" but rather "Joseph Joestar is a pulsing rainbow gradient covered in halftone". Absolutely fabulous.
Still can't get over the bold artistic decision to have Morioh covered in yellow skies, lime green streets and deep purple trees for the majority of the anime.
The colors in part 4 were what got me into the series and back into Anime after it went digital.
5:18 imagine if every night scene in every published manga had black skies, RIP all that ink
At this point just dunk all of your papers in ink
Can’t believe I assumed these were fan colors the entire time
Bruh same here
You didn't see the logos and info on the bottom?
@@meterothecrow6270 who reads that?
Can't believe I assumed these were done by Araki.
Same
The manga should be read in b&w but I find it easier in some action scenes to see what's going on in color. All the black ink just blends together for me in the fuller pages.
I agree. I think a good part of that is in part due to the the quality if the scans, if I were reading the actual manga then I'm sure the details would be a lot clearer, but with the scans I was checking out a lot of the action scenes seemed really busy and it was hard to make out exactly what was going on. Another thing is that I'd switch between my phone and my laptop, and reading the black and white on a phone just makes the issue worse (which Hamon Beat mentioned in the video).
In any case I always took the colored versions to be non-canon since most JoJo characters don't have things like canon outfit/hair colors, so it's never been an issue for me to see the anime portray characters one way while the manga portrays them another, and the random flaws in the coloring don't really bother me when I'm reading.
Yeah honestly I'm not enjoying the Wonder of U fight... I'm just not used to understand what goes on in an action packed b&w manga
Part 8 b&w is the worst.
@@tafazzi-on-discord there are some pages that are impossible to understand. But I agree with hamon that it's better to read in B&W, you can see way better the details of the drawing that way.
Agreed
My biggest take away here is that morioh officially has piss yellow skies.
Edit:I like how it looks I was just making a joke.
eyo that's the glory
Lmao
The Rohan OVAs do also show Morioh with a blue sky
Part 4's colours suck so much lmao.
Don't forget the sickly green roads.
Morioh was actually Dio's piss jar
is it just me or is david productions jojo the most faithful manga adaptation there is rn,
Even with the changes, it's pretty faithful.
It's more faithful to the manga than the manga
Definitely not.
@@stonefree7973 ??
@@stonefree7973 how, it literally has the mangas creator giving ideas for characters
Tooru's clothes are also scuffed. He's obviously wearing a vest/sleeveless hoodie over an other shirt. But he's drawn as if it's one single single piece of clothing.
That's the worst part of the Shueisha scans, they just turn so many things as monochrome and smudge over details for the sake of painting them faster sadly
I honestly don't like black and white, for other manga i genuinely understand things pretty well but for JoJo, a lot of the fights are pretty confusing and the colors help me figure out what's even goin on.
+1
No other part of the manga visually confuses me like part five...don’t get me wrong, the art is incredible, but araki’s use of tone and solid black in almost every panel along with the bold pen used to draw the backgrounds gives me a headache when the characters are fighting. The man in the mirror fight, for example, was awesome but trying to figure out what was happening was very tricky
@@onewheeljoeswanson1780 My greatest difficulty was actually King Crimson specially the Bruno and GER fights, i can now understand why "It Just Works" was such a big meme back then.
Yes this is why I refused to read the manga, I'll just wait for the anime which is what I really like
I can attest that physical is better, as someone who's read chainsaw man on my phone and physically
I always found it interesting how the colored scans for part 7 actually goes through a pretty significant change that makes it feel way different from chapter 1 to the end of the part. I especially noticed it at first in the arc with Mandom. Personally I find some of the colored pages such as Tusk Act 4's reveal to be very pretty. Things like how KC's time skip dimension is portrayed in the colored scans also made it feel easier for me to process what's going on in the page. The good bits of the colored scans such as those really just make me appreciate Araki's drawings overall.
Part 7 might have the worst colored scans imo, mostly because of how it blurs out the hatchmarking and the backgrounds are always these soft gradient colors, which makes for the complete opposite effect intended (that being visual contrast to the action in the foreground).
Part 1 & 2 have pretty decent colored scans, and yes they do help make really complicated stuff more readable but Part 7 really suffers, especially its background art.
@@SerenGetteri thought so too, alot of the really contrasting details just gets coloured out. But, I did read all of it in coloured, and I just simply enjoyed the story. Dunno why i even-
@@Iwatoda_Dorm ...
Part 5 really benefits with colour, part of the reason why the Manga version was one of my least favourite Manga Parts for a while was because of the black and white scans making Scenes and Arcs nearly impossible to follow. Like, you tell me that Man in the Mirror, White Album, Bruno vs Diavolo (King Crimson especially fucks me off in the Manga) and Oasis are easy to follow in B&W. It's a massive reason why I find the Anime version to be infinitely superior, despite it following the exact same plot and pacing.
@@englishgiraffe2124 i found them easy to follow
Ayo new hamon beat video at 12am 😳?-
10:33 am here
Nothing like Hamon Pete videos in the middle of the night (or middle of the day if you live on the other side of the world like me)
10:07 here
1pm for me
@@black_rhino241 based calibro
I’ve read part 8 and it was a bit of a challenge to adapt to the black and white halfway through, but once I got used to it the art admittedly looks a lot better and really feels like a manga
Yus
Part 8 was the easiest for me to adapt, it's Vento Aureo and Stone Ocean where the black and white looks confusing
@@crystalalumina I am 6 months late to this but I am finishing up stone ocean colored and I really want to read part 7 in black white should I do it or stick with colored
@@duragchirag1899 change to black and white in part 8 if u want to
But it's still ok if you wanna continue part 8 in coloured
Sorry though for me being late
@Durag Chirag sorry for the late response, but I definitely recommend Steel Ball Run in black and white, people say the coloring looks good, but for me it looks ugly, it adds to much detail to already very detailed drawings, I mean Lucy's face somehow looks older in the colored version for example, also the first chapters are like the worst part, they look smudged over and everything looks like clay, definitely parts 7 and 8 should be read in black and white
I honestly couldn't believe how a guy who's menacing with the most broken stand in all of jojo, **to wear neon yellow pants**
Look at how they massacred my boy
GER is still the most broken imo
Bohemian Rhapsody is also broken as hell, pretty sure it could rival GER if the user wasn't a god damn meth head lmao
@@emerald3616 A lot of stands by pass it though, especially wonder of u. ger activates when you intend to harm Giorno, However if Giorno aims to pursue and kill Tooru or Wonder of U hes a goner as Tooru doesbt have any intent to kill Giorno its just an automatic ability.
@@emerald3616 GER is top 5 or 4 at best
I have trouble distinguishing different objects and characters when reading the black and white manga, so I choose to read it colored, as it's easier for me.
This is, for some reason, only an issue with JoJo. No other manga I've read has given me this issue.
Same issue, probably because all of the panels super detailed.
Same, years ago I read part 5 without color and I just couldn’t make sense of what I was seeing for the most part despite manga being my preferred way to experience stories. I rather like Araki’s art style but damn it’s hard to make sense of some of the busier pages (at least for me)
stupid syndrome, a lot of people have it
@@jage6344 lol
@@jage6344 I mean, i'm not gonna argue that i'm not stupid, but like everybody else here, its just araki's art style that makes it a bit tricky to tell what's going on.
I honestly feel kinda sad I only read in color until part 8. Some of the pages I thought just looked bad actually look pretty good in black and white. Oh well, guess it's an excuse to reread the whole series without the coloring
I wish to. I was reading Jojo's from Manga Rock and they did a weird listing where individual parts were collared but the original manga was named as a compilation or something like that. That is why I read only the coloured and downloaded them before the app closed. I was reading part 6. And now I'm switching to monochrome. In the future, I will definitely reread the series. Maybe I will even learn Japanese.
I always read jojolion in black and white and after seeing this colores pages for the first time I can say that the original versions looks way better. At least IMO
Talk about first world problems
Same. When i read Part 1 in colored manga, for some reason a lot of thing felt so off and inaccurate compared to the anime (you may say that it's cuz my memory and fondness of part 1). But when i finished reading the colored manga and start reading the B&W for confirmation, suddenly it looks beautiful and the anime felt faithful to the core. It's just shows how much dedication David Production puts in the animation
where can you find good black and white scans, please tell me lol. i’ve been looking for months and i can only find ones with really shit translation if i can find them at all im desperate
The crazy thing is, I was discussing about you with my friend around five minutes ago, and you uploaded.... DAMN
Yeah, same on my end. I guess stand users are truly connected by fate lol.
Go Eren go!
Maybe he's your friend
Arakis color rule is great, more diversity in lipstick color on men lmao
I’m just so GLAD that Araki handles the Anime colours it looks amazing because of how dynamic and interesting colour choices there are
Araki: *releases Jojolion 106*
Color-only readers: where yellow pants
107 is next
Araki forgot the yellow pants
*Everybody gangsta till the commentator's animated RUclips avatar crosses his arms*
I don’t get the joke can you explain it
@@sprts2044 it was a joke on his Twitter
wrong video
@toshikazu hiro that would be fucking cursed
@toshikazu hiro lmfao
Colored scans do make it much much easier to read on phones. I've read 4-7 on my phone, and I'm very glad it was in color.
Just enable Comfortable mode, but welp
10:01 My Italian patriotism make me feel proud that you used an Italian cover as an example of countries that are publishing JJL
Man this video opened my eyes
I've always thought the colors didn't had that Jojo feel on the manga, it didn't have the stylish colorful look araki does in his painted jobs, and sometimes felt cheaply made
This context made me respect even more araki's work, unfortunately I can't read the physical copy, but I'll go for black and white digital anyway.
Here in Italy we have Jojolion translated, at 10:06 you can see the cover made by star comics an Italian company that sells mangas and comics in general.
Italiano ?
@@yassirbeniaz6645 si
Abbiamo sempre avuto un gran culo per quanto riguarda JoJo, diversamente dagli americani. Sono state fatte diverse ristampe negli ultimi decenni a partire dal '93, non ne siamo mai stati a corto diciamo
@@leonardomarottoli4864 concordo, star comics sta facendo un lavoro eccezionale sia con JoJo sia con altre opere
@@the_other_bulin0 ahhh yes, Spaghetti.
babe wake up new hamon beat critique dropped
nice new titlecard logo thing btw
I prefer the colour because it gives the manga a bit more life. I do agree that the details in the black and white look phenomenaly better then the colour scans and I might even re read them in black and white but only if I can get physical copies cause I read all the coloured ones on my phone
Im so hyped for the official release of Jojo in Indonesia(it' on the works) , so i can finally see and feel Araki's glorious art
OH WAIT REALLY? WHERE CAN I READ MORE ABOUT THIS NEWS
@@lone2234 Follow the Elex media socials👀
@@kww10 Awh but will it be in ID then? Well it'll be much cheaper but damn I imagine Jojo sound kinda cringey in ID 😔
@@kww10 I heard it will be very expensive
Hey, that’s me at 5:52 ! Didn’t expect to see my old twitter page in this video but I’m glad you liked my coloring.
Araki’s art in black and white is so good, it’s a shame there’s people out there who aren’t willing to experience it. Also, Tooru’s recent color scheme within the shueisha scans is atrocious. So many conflicting colors and pallets really ruins a lot of the great moments we’ve had in the wonder of u arc.
Looking at Tooru’s color scheme made me so glad I read it in black & white.
I advised one of my friends to stop reading the coloured version as soon as she reaches the Head Doctor's first apparition. I showed her the Shueisha colours when she was done and she understood why I gave this advice. Wonder Of U and Tooru are my favourite JoJolion characters, and they got absolutely destroyed
Exactly the entire Endless calamity ark was soooooo much better in Black and white it gave a more mysterious vibe
@@C7007 I also prefer the black and white for jojolion but I gotta admit if they give Johnny that God AWFUL green outfit like in eyes of heaven I'm gonna be disappointed
@@praisethecatss4089 Oh those Eyes of Heaven Colours for Johnny and Gyro look atrocious. I'm not a fan of Araki going overboard with colours and throwing consistency out of the window, but I'd easily take something like those over the putrid and oversaturated Green and Blue colours EoH Johnny and Gyro have.
Worth being awake this late
Hell yeah.
HAMON BEAT YESS
The hype I always feel towards these videos... I love em so much
Jobin in color is just a thing of beauty, but love how you called me out on waiting for more official color scans lmao I'm still waiting! i respect Black white so much more now after showing those smuge comparisons! ty Hamon Beat
It’s funny that the Part 6 anime fixed just about every color problem you mentioned aside from Lang Wrangler. I guess they really didn’t wanna animate his exposed shoulders lol
I don't know if i am the only one but i can't read mangas normally without colors because most of the time i doesn't understand what is happening on the page. With colors i understand the position of characters, objects and locations much better.
Oh
Maybe read more manga? Or read more then once? I love rewatch value and aot for example has some worthwhile revisits...
Sounds like Manhwa/manhua would be up your alley.
They tend to be fully coloured.
Could be your reading and on to small the screen, or without proper lighting. I struggled with this too before I got a tablet and started reading and on that, Most physical manga is printed too small for me because I have bad eyesight.
then that is a bad mangaka. araki black and white drawings are completely perfect in most cases (you know, for manga viewing standards), so being un able to tell what is going on would be an issue. you would probably need a bigger screen.
You're not quite the only one. When it comes to getting into manga, especially if you're used to anime or even stuff like your average American comic books, the black and white is a bit of a pill to swallow whether it's you basically going against how in most instances we're trained to view black and white as either a sign of ye olden times or as a sign of a lack of budget and sometimes... the art can be a struggle whether you have actual diagnosed problems that impede on this or it could just be a matter of experiences varying from person-to-person. Much like how one person can view a piece of art as great and another as a piece of garbage, some people can adapt quickly to the detail and know what's going on from the get-go and others may struggle and on devices that can be tricky. I mean it's why the Jump Digital Color stuff exists because indeed when trying to read on certain devices, let me tell you, it can be HELL on the eyes trying to figure out what's going on.
So really, don't feel bad for your choice, especially since the video is not about putting down those who happen to have that preference. It's just about explaining the source of the scans, the purpose they serve and the issues they have to counter the misconceptions that surround them. If you prefer it a certain way though then by all means, continue enjoying it in that manner since what matters is that you're still getting into the story and hopefully enjoying it all the same.
Bro you literally change the way I see the colors in the scans. I remember that I kinda refuse to read Jojolion too bc it was black and white but like it’s better that way rather than saturated colors that kill my eyes. Thanks for the video.
wow I am addicted to this channel
blew my mind learning about the scans, I loved the colored scans and assumed they were the official colors. never noticed the airbrush effect until now.
Keep up the great work man love the content.
When I read the colored scans, I assumed they were the work of dedicated fans- so I just assumed the DIO meeting Pucci at daytime stuff was a harmless mistake; I was just glad that they had gone through the trouble of doing their best to enhance the experience. Knowing they’re official has changed my view lmao
I was reading parts 1-7 on my phone and I can confirm that colours really helped me to see wtf was actually happening. If I had a choice I would love to read it on paper, but yeah.... The manga is kinda expensive for me- I would like to collect it in English. Recently JJBA has been started to be published in my first language, but still I would rather have it in English.
Also it's funny how fans were accusing Araki of even more 'forget moments', but he had really nothing to do with this. I love color schemes in his artworks- they change and surprise me. Like for example redhead Dio- pls he looks so good.
I’ve been looking for physical copies on Amazon for a week now, you just saved me more time telling me only up to part 4
The entire western Jojo fandom is gonna be set on fire, when you know who shows up in part 6.
Who?
@@margad0928 the KKK
@@janreiafrica Oh. Hm.
More like Part 7
Flaccid Pancake?
Im actually reading the physical part 4 manga in english, and I love actually being able to stop and see the detailed artwork with my own eyes rather than an image of them on a screen. Koichi confronting Kira was amazing to read physically
thank you very much for puttin this video together. this can sometimes be a really frustrating conversation to have, but you covered all the major points in a very clear and concise way.
I'm french so Jojolion release here, and I can confirm it's really cool to read it physically !
I think Doobie-wah work really well in all blue since his "air" powers.
Doobie-Wah! really does look fantastic in the colored versions.
We got coloured Doobie-Wah, but we also got coloured Tooru. That is equivalent exchange.
The fight with it and Born this Way are the best colored sections in the series. Especially since Doobie Wah also utilizes the anime's "dramatic color change" technique in some panels.
@@Moocow2003 unironically I enjoy Toorus manga colours.
That and White Album. I get that it's psychic power bullshit at the end of the day, but I don't get the green and purple when it's made out of ice.
Very nice video, this is very informative since not many go in depth on the colored scans beyond just going "no canon colors". I prefer color altogether though of course reading manga you get used to black and white. But I can understand your preferences
I always knew the colored versions were not done by Araki, many manga's are not colored by their authors and the physical copies are usually in black and white (or sometimes red) but understanding that I still prefer JoJo's in color. Just gives it a bit more funk imo.
The only reason I read the colored manga is cuz I genuinely cannot follow any action taking place in black and white manga. Doesnt matter if its JoJo's, One Punch Man, or any other series, I just cannot read the action if its not colored. Thus I'll take a flawed colored version over a black and white version anyway
I remember when I first started reading I started with colored adventure purely because I wasn't used to B&W manga, plus Araki's detailed pieces just made things even harder to understand. In hindsight, I realize it was just because I was reading it on a phone, and like you pointed out, the colored pages look better on a phone. Looking at the same B&W pages either on a bigger screen or physically in your hands make it so much clearer and a genuinely better experience than the colored pages on a phone, and *infinitely* better than colored pages on anything other than a phone.
this is why i love the anime's take on colors. there is a consistent, canonical color scheme, however they frequently go pretty crazy to emphasize scenes, emotions, or any other thing. color is used as a tool, to be used however the scene demands, just like anything else
Yeah I've never been a fan of the color version of Jojo, which has sadden me for some time because I always thought that they were made by Araki, but only just found out around the start of Part 8 that they're not by him at all. Now it just frustrates me, because it's very clear Araki is a master of color and design, but what's portrayed in the colored manga is nowhere near his mastery for colors. If anything, I think people should realize that Araki experiments with color schemes ALL of the time, and anyone who's a fan of his should too experiment with their palettes and be loose when making fanart. And if you don't know how too or are too timid to experiment, I recommend the book "A Dictionary of Color Combinations" by Sanzo Wada.
the thing i love about the hamon beat intro is when joseph gets sent to the shadow realm 😂
Is the Shadow Realm resurfacing as a meme among anime fans lately?
sometimes
Colored manga for JoJo honestly works better than most colored manga, even with these problems
fascinating stuff. this makes me want to reread the whole series purely in black and white rather than color
i admit i have been loving the black and white chapters in jojolion and i love the fan-color edits, but i do want to experience the series purely, like you said
I never noticed the mistakes until just now. I really don't usually pay much attention. I read most of my JoJo as the manga form (I have read the first couple of parts in their English form physically). I decided to go online for the others (I kind of did a juggle between the original and the coloured versions), although I still do have some of the JoJolion manga and read them despite my lackluster Japanese linguistic skills.
reading in black and white threw me off a little bit, but now i dont really have a problem with it anymore.
However i would always prefer the coloured manga over the black and white one, simply because i like it better.
The points you made were valid, however one shouldnt bash people for enjoying the coloured manga more (OBVIOUSLY)
i have been reading manga since i was 12, and in all this time i have never found a fandom so evasive of the original black and white version, i've read some jojo parts including the first one in black and white and never had an issue with it, but other people say araki's drawing are confusing.
They are
They probably read the B&W versions on a small screen, so it's understandable they'd prefer the colored scans
I say, it's better if you read the B&W versions on a computer or buy it physically.
@@hollowsid9623 i would say jojo's doesn't really translate well to small screen,mainly because of paneling issues, Still readeable but a bit of a pain in the ass. so you are probably right
Is not that is actually confusing, for me it just feels better to read the colored versión
They are also most probably oversaturated and need some deviant art furry - like saturation or aren't capable of distinguish forms... or using shitty definition on phones. Or never tried to read One Piece.
Good video man. It's good to point out the many errors of the official scans, and it's important to emphasize that Jojo has no canon colors (mostly). To be honest, it was annoying to see people complaining about Giorno's clothes when GW was being aired. And I can agree with you that Araki's work looks better in paper.
On the other hand, sometimes Jojo can be hard to understand when you read it in black and white. Maybe it's just me, that I'm not used to read manga, but a lot of time I found myself completely clueless about what I've read in Jojolion. That didn't happened to me in Steel Ball Run. What I'm saying is that the colors scans make the visuals less ambiguous for new readers like myself.
I never really knew about this topic but I'm glad I watched this great video!
I like how the Anime occasionally references the Colorized Manga's palettes for some characters, like Jotaro's Alternate Part 3 Color Scheme, shown during Dio's Time Stops, and how he has the navy hair and clothes, with the magenta-esque shirt.
I think Giorno's outfit is a bit of a special case. Sure, the blue may not have been the original intended color, but the light pink in the anime is still a far cry from the manga, especially since in the original black and white version, it's colored dark as if it's supposed to be a darker color.
I'll take the pink tbh, the B&W/Blue look for Giorno's suit looks too similar to Josuke's getup and I want some variety.
Thats like saying The jotaro vs DIO fight should happen in daytime bc The Sky was White in The B&W version tbh
Araki intended his outfit to be pink. But Sheuiy bois messed it up.
@@benet3931 I think there's an obvious difference there. Leaving the night sky white is something many mangakas do in order to save ink; they can rely on readers to know it's nighttime based on context clues. It's far different from intentionally shading a character's outfit to be darker.
@@jokirb2739 araki literally chose the giornos color for anime
I think the colored manga are for fans of the anime that have never read manga before but want to read ahead. I think this is most likely the case as first-time manga readers might find it hard to transition from anime to manga
didnt it come out before the anime tho
@@armankaya4826 yes but the more recent jojolion scans have been trying to emulate an style similar to the anime
Agreed. I started reading it after part 5 anime ended and its a relief that i havent read it in b&w. If there wouldnt be a colored version i would have dropped it.
@@romeus1711 I agree. I’ll most likely reread all of it in black and white eventually, but it’s harder to do on phone for me
fr... when Jojolion's coloured pages stopped i begrudgingly went over to the black and white. the colours are just softer for my eyes
But I'm caught up to Jojolion and am used to the b&w. I'll be reading jojo over in b&w from now
the only jojo vids that i need are from you m8
Color by: official Publisher
Coloring quality: fan coloring
That's why people confused
I’d like to add while sometimes it can be ‘difficult’ to follow along in B&W, trust me when I say 90% of the time, it’s simply a bad scan. Take a look at any of physical copies for the the volumes. It’s extremely clear and don’t have to worry about stuff like saturation and brightness on your phone. Plus, if you go to Barnes & Noble, you get a really cool looking book.
7:01 It's good that the anime shows this scene correctly, during the night.
I understand the whole problem of coloring mistakes, of course clothes shouldn't be skin colored or vice versa. However, the point about it being blurry is a misunderstanding. It appears to be more blurry because of contrast, not because of bad lines or less lines. Black and white will always look clearer than colored images, since the contrast is lower in the colored ones.
He didnt say it was blurry, he says it looks blurry. This is not a mistake.
Edit: i believe his wording was "an almost blurry effect"
Not entirely. The anime doesn't look blurry (albeit definitely less detailed), because they use flats for coloring instead of color gradients.
Color gradients may be more realistic, but often make surfaces look softer than the linework may suggest. The color scans definitely look airbushed.
Absolutely agree with you in regards to B&W manga vs colored - I
see a lot of people nowadays complaining about how there are so few
colored manga, but what they don't seem to realize is that depicting
things in a grayscale fashion takes just as much skill, if not moreso
thanks to the pallet limitations. I often find fully colored manga dull
by comparison, or else too busy for my eyes to really appreciate. Plus,
having the manga traditionally in B&W makes the covers and
celebratory color pages feel more special.
I think part of the issue is that some of the easily available BW scans, especially for Part 1, are of pretty poor quality, to the point that it’s often difficult to tell what’s actually going on because the contrast’s way too high. I restarted Part 1 in color because the BW was genuinely confusing at times, and from there I kinda just stuck with it until I caught up with Jojolion.
The few color scheme I enjoy a lot is the Love Train arc, the entire lighting was just beautiful and holy, but other times, it just did too much mistake that I can't forgive them
9:50 I can attest to that. The first time I saw Jojonium in a bookstore, I finally understood why people read the manga in black and white. The lines and etches look gorgeous on printed paper. Even Part 1 looks great! A bitmap scan cannot do justice to the beauty of Araki’s line work. If you can, read the manga printed.
I want Steel Ball Run and Jojolion in paper so much, but we never got jojo past DiU in my country
I will say that their stone ocean colours are GORGEOUS. Jolyne and jotaro are so vibrant and colourful and it’s my preferred scheme over the anime
i love that jojo stuff is on my feed now, and ive actually been reading the black and manga, when its colored on a few pages i love seeing how they are colored
Id love to see a fan project that goes through and recolors pages with more vivid and imaginative color schemes. Maybe taking a collaborative approach with tons of artists coloring their own pages in their own unique ways, and compiling it together.
Probably won't happen but sounds lit af
nice timing I was just thinking about wether I should read jojo part 7 coloured or black and white.
This got recommended late I just finished part 8.
part 7 coloring is rather better than some of the parts
i thing it's okay to read it in colors
@@TheeFlashbackMan the first 20 or so chapters kinda look bad in the colored scans tbh. Though I will say the later chapters look pretty nice
I uh thought ya always go b and w first so when you see the colors it makes you even hungrier for the aminaes
black and white definitely
Def colored
It looks incredible in color
Everytime I get to the end of one of your videos I get slapped in the face by "Bruno Bucciarati Body Pillow Mecha Gundum" and I think that's okay
The black and white version looks so much sharper.
This only makes me appreciate the brilliance of the spontaneous color palette changes of the characters & stands in the anime even more.
Glad I watched this. Was thinking of re reading SBR soon so I'll do the black an white version this time thanks to this.
0:24 I've already read JoJolion, I've studied Jobin's face to learn how to replicate the artstyle, I fucking adore Part 8, and I would just stare at some panels just because they were gorgeous.
I just noticed Jobin has the Higashikata family crest on his lower button.
for the taking place at nighttime scenes, people seem to forget that it’s just easier to not color in a sky
I bought some of the hard cover manga and holy fucking shit some of the art in it looks so fucking good in black and white
I came here when this video has 166k and hamon beat has 166k subscribers. That’s pretty cool
I loved the colouring especially part 6 and 7.one of my favourite parts of the colouring were the colours used for stands they look as of they glow. Best example for this would be Jolyne stand, the blue they use is actually beautiful and looks great in the coloured pages.
I believe in Black and white Wonder of u supremacy
Sadly my first redthroughs were digital colourised and I actually had a break on jojolion because I thought it didn’t go past the coloured chapters. But after buying the physical manga 1-3 you can just tell how much better it looks
It's disappointing that some people only wanna look at coloured versions of JoJo. It's a big problem in America I feel as people want coloured comics but unfortunetely I think both the feel of the art is lost and many colourists do horrible jobs. Where it looks to digital and they use cheap Photoshop tricks that look horrible and tacky. Glad I have black and white versions of some of stardust crusaders, cause honestly I wouldnt wanna look at any other versions. I'm also loving the monochrome colours for some of the pages that were selected in the printing process. That's how it should be done in my opinion.
Reading the colored scans physically would be atrocious and vice versa for the black and white.
Seriously, black and white manga on paper (assuming a good print job by the publisher) looks FANTASTIC and is very good to read, whereas most color pages tend to look worse without extra care
I am Brazilian an bought a volume of Stardust Crusaders, and OMG this is absolutely beautiful, gorgeous
When you get your video in first few seconds of uploading
Amazing video! I've always thought the coloured version was far inferior to the original B&W, and I'm glad I'm not alone. I even imported physical copies of all of Part 5 just to see Araki's art as originally intended.
Really appreciate you making this video!
I prefer reading JoJo in colors because sometimes I can't understand what the hell is going on when a new stand power shows up or a weird scene is happening.
Part of what makes araki's work so amazing is his variation in colors and designs, even drawing characters in completely different outfits later on (I mean just look at his newer drawings of Jonathan and Joseph)
I read manga in black and white but i read colored superhero comics *ngl Araki’s choices of colors are bizarre i love it*