Responding to JoJo Hot Takes
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
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I don’t understand why people would skip parts 1 and 2, they’re so good in my opinion
Well, part 1 is extremely generic imo. It's basically fist of the north star but with vampires lol. Part 2 is good though
They are better than 3 and 4
Exactly but that's just how the cultfandom works.
As a anime as a whole, part 1 feels like ova, part 2 is the big deal for jojo
@@user-ju5gx8up6s I do get what you mean. I guess some people don’t like super simple stories, and that’s fine.
It amazes me that people say they don't watch part 1 because "it will surely be horribly boring". Bro, it's just an introductory nine episode arc, not a whole Toei anime 😅
Tbf all jojo parts can be skipped. You can, if you want to, skip straight to part 7, or 6 or whatever while understanding the general story. That's what makes jojos so nice, it's there for people who want to watch just the hype moments, or a short story, but it also caters to people who want a deep story.
@@JuuniTV
The "stupid comment" part was unnecessary, you know? Also, I'm saying that people are exaggerating at the time of saying they don't watch part 1 because they consider it "boring". While an anime with only 9 episodes may be boring for some, using that as the only excuse not to watch it is completely absurd.
I think some people really only find part 1 to be boring is because they know and expect jojo's to get better after this point.I suggest when it's your first time watching part 1 or jojo's in general you should really only focus on it and try to enjoy it,because some people really only watch part 1 is to try find it's flaws and comparing it to others parts.
Well i can see why people call part 1 boring and want to skip it
I watched part 1, on acid back in the day, just bored, friend skipped out on this. IDK when this was. But I was like "know what, I'll try it" and holy crap lol
This got me hardcore into the series. The same thing happened with the show Expanse.
Not suggesting you try what I did, but this show is another level when...you are lol
kira get ran over by the ambulance is perfect in more ways than you mentioned. Not only is it because of his sheer bad luck, but Kira is a character who lived his whole life trying to stay as hidden and unseen as possible, and it's due to the fact that the driver didn't see him at all that he perished. Pure dramatic irony.
I genuinely burst out laughing when it happened. It's just so unexpected, especially after three parts of main villain gets defeated in epic fight with our hero.
@@Myne1001it’s absolutely hilarious, bro got ran over and you even see his head twist
That and he wanted to have the most normal life possible, and his life ended not by him being killed by the main characters' spirit punch ghosts but by a traffic accident, a way more normal way of dying
And also the ambulance ripped his face off
Ironic for someone trying to hide hinself
How exactly is it dramatic irony though?
Im so baffled by the one where the guy dislikes the strange things that happen in JJBA, like its literally called JoJo's *Bizarre* Adventure, not JoJo's Normal Adventure
Johnathan’s average cross country trot.
Regular guy Joe's common walk to the park
Jojo's normal adventure
A story about two brothers. One is an archeologist and another is... (i dunno who dio would be if he didnt become a vampire) a lawyer. Together they live a normal live in 18th century England where no unnatural creatures live
@@ESALTEREGO
A lawyer.
I see a LOOOT of people talk about the series like that, going "ewww this is weird why is it so weird!!! >A
I'm still not over the dude saying Valentine isn't evil. I was already wondering "did this guy even read part 7?" before the reveal that he didn't.
I mean their main point was already about how he "just" wants to make the USA propers, completely ignoring that he's explicitly ok with letting the rest of the world suffer for it.
@@shinyagumon7015
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who’d agree with him on that…
I might be assuming too much here but I think a big part of it is bias. A lot of people that I see who claim Valentine is a good guy tend to be American themselves, so I think the idea that his motive is to try to make the United States a utopia makes his goal seem noble to them.
I feel like if SBR took place in a different country and Valentine had the exact same motive, focusing on whatever different country the part takes place in (let's say China, Afghanistan, Mexico, etc) there would probably be less people claiming his actions to be justified and heroic
@@bird1729 You're right. You are assuming too much. Way to throw American fans under the bus.
@@psycholuigiman I never said all American fans believe Valentine was right (I'm American myself), just that a good chunk of people who do think he's good are indeed American, and that it's likely from bias. I'm pretty sure more American fans recognize that Valentine is a bad guy anyway
I never thought I’d hear HB say “gay love child” but here we are
Would like but 69, notify me when somone else likes
My ears have been blessed
It's a Jojo youtuber. What else could you expect? 😂
To add to what you said about Sleeping Slaves, I think that Bucciarati choosing to continue living and staying on his path despite knowing that he is going to die recontexualizes his actions for the entire part. Hes a hero, he could've taken the easy road and died peacefully.
I absolutely love that idea, so it really hurts to have to point this out... Bruno never actually found out that he was destined to die from Rolling Stones. Mista found out, but he never explained it to him. Even if he did, since he thought he completely saved Bruno by destroying Rolling Stones (which he didn't even do completely), he wouldn't have thought Bruno was still going to die
In a way, Fate was testing them for the trails ahead. The stone was the means to sharp them for the fight ahead, or an easy path to spare them trail they aren't ready for. Divaolo grasp on itatly was iron grip and King Crimson ability of cheating Fate. The only way good to break it was through torment, trails, overcoming, and sacrifice. And it wasn't going to be easy.
Breaking the stone demonstrates the length gang will have to go through to defeat Divaolo. If they couldn't beat the stone, they certainly couldn't beat Divaolo.
With Giorno awaken his stand, mark a change the unavoidable battle of good vs evil.
Consider Bruno death, if he was loyal to Divaolo, Giorno would had to kill him. And betraying the Divaolo is a battle you can't fight without taking losses.
At first I didn’t understand the point of Sleeping slaves but I’ve actually grown to love it. It’s truly about resolve and preserving even if the consequences are hard to swallow
since he bassicly skipped part 5, here's a hot take that shouldnt be one: Its bad
My main gripe is just that it comes after the end of the story. I'm just somebody who doesn't care for that recontextualization thing happening and I don't like prequel stuff. I prefer good foreshadowing. Of course, I also just didn't like part 5 as much as the other parts anyway. It's still real good, don't misunderstand me. Concepts like "fate" and "destiny" and thwarting those concepts are just kinda hard for me to wrap my head around, so an entire arc about that featuring a villain who's power is all about fated actions and such just wasn't up my alley.
Diavolo probably deserved the "Infinite Loop" punishment, but we all should agree Ciocolatta deserved it FAR more
Cioccolata should've been the main villain
He definitely at least deserved the 7 Page Muda. Bro was a complete psychopath and even Diavolo was disgusted by him
Remember how Bucciarati experienced sensory overload from a single punch from Golden Experience? Even though it was never dwelt upon in detail I'm sure Ciocolata experienced the same thing only he was hit by the 7 page muda. It probably lasted an eternity from Ciocolata's perspective lol
I agree but to play devil's advocate pun unintended it could be argued that Ciocolatta wouldn't have been able to wreck as much havoc as he did to Rome during his fight if it weren't for Diavolo discovering the arrows and granting Ciocolatta a Stand capable of mass destruction in the first place. It's kind of like asking whose worse, a soldier committing a war crime or the officers who ordered/enabled it?
@@toorubase03 Okay, maybe not cuz Cioccolata doesn't even have a motive for what he does, dude just kills for fun...
Say what you want about Phantom Blood, but you can't deny that, of all the parts, this is the one that has the best chance of being adapted into live action without becoming a Dragon Ball Evolution 2.0.
especially considering it already has a musical
Well it did get a stage musical so technically it already has
I think it’s kinda crazy that something like one piece got a pretty good live action adaptation before something more grounded in comparison like the aforementioned part 1 of JBA or like Dr. Stone or any other series that takes place in a version of our world
@@Numbers-gStands
There are also pretty great everyday-life anime stories, like "Yosuga no Sora" that deserve a live-action. If One Piece got one without being a disaster, then ANY anime can get one
i mean part 4 already has a live action adaptation... sure, it's just the first arc, but still. also, the thus spoke kishibe rohan tv drama also exists, so yeah.
I love the Clamp manga, but it's a shame it's the only well-known JoJo-fanfic. For example, the doujin "Until We rest eternally" (showing what would have happened if Jonathan became a vampire and not Dio) is beautiful love letter to the classical JoJo era
THIS GUY RIGHT HERE GETS IT
The
What ?
The only well known Jojo fanfic?
Jorge joestar intensifies
@@vivelespatat2670 doujin basically just means self-published fan content. the word's NSFW connotations mostly come as a result of that freedom, however, it in no way means that all doujins are NSFW.
The word can best be translated to English as fandom, as doujin refers to both the group of people sharing in the community and the fan works produced! Music, fan art, fan comics, and even fan games, all of these are doujin! Fandom's gonna fandom, we all know r34 exists, but, that doesn't mean that meaningful doujins can't exist.
Apologies for the long comment, I just often see this attitude around the word and I think it often stems from a misunderstanding of the word's meaning. Thank you for reading!~
@@JoyKirbs it doesn’t help that if you search doujins on google you’ll see more nsfw content, the word was kind of co-opted in everyday/internet nomenclature to have that meaning more times than what the original meaning was.
The hot take on Valentine killed me. Some people really just engage with fiction thru memes and viral posts alone, and it really shows.
That’s pretty much 90% of all JoJo fans you see on the internet.
Metal Gear fans: "First time?"
@@JuanLeon-oe6xe No, but actually
"Here is a man who believes poor/weak people should just die and that the economy should mimic natural evolution of Survival of the Fittest. He talks like he's selfless and doing it for the benefit of the country, when in reality, if his ideals were made manifest, it would put himself at the top of the ladder. He's also probably racist."
*OMG GIGA-BASED CHAD??? BASED BASED BASED DONT FUCK WITH THIS SENATOR!! THE SOURCE IS I MADE IT UP xD xD xD*
Berserk fans: "Griffith fans, no! Sorry, force of habit".
I honestly dislike those people so much. If you don't have time to watch an anime, then fine, but please don't comment like your opinion is superior to someone's who has actually watched/read the series. And if you have the time, but don't care to watch it, but are still spouting bullshite under "Giorno from JJBA skibidi sigma edit" videos then please, kindly get off this side of the internet
I'm such a part 4 fan boy, but I love the different sky colors. It makes the small town feel more isolated and away from anything outside. Part 4 is in a crazy, noisy, bizarre town (hahah) and everything takes place in the town. They aren't thinking about stuff outside of it, they are dealing with Kira, someone who also refuses to leave his life in the town. It's as if it's its own little world and I love it since I'm a fan of small town murder mystery style stories. Also Chase has always been my favorite opening.
This is so true. And generally if the sky was blue that would just feel wrong, this isn't any normal story
Its part of the reason why i love part 4 lol
If you like small town murder mysteries you should try out Persona 4 Golden. Its great.
@@Litten-sb7eg actually been starting playing the other Persona games. I've only played 5 after my roommate got me into years back, and so I just started three reload. I'm gonna do golden next because everyone that knows me guarantees I'll love it.
Morioh's weird sky is part of what makes Part 4's artstyle the strongest of the anime (barring the occasional fucked-up drawing)
Another thing about Diavolo's death: he's implied to be supernatural since birth. He was born with supposedly unexisting father from a pregnancy that lasted 2 years, and lived in a body as a secondary personality. Also he killed his own mother, his girlfriend, and tried to kill his daughter, burned a village in his youth, made the biggest criminal organization in Italy which sells drugs to anyone including children and is named after the devil himself. I would never be confident enough to say he doesn't deserve to be inprisoned in eternal torture, something that could be called "hell". He is purposefully created as this extremely mysterious character with vague origins, he might as well be something completely differemt from a normal human being, much worse then we think.
People with DID often forget there pasts or backstories I’ve heard so Maybe all the traumatic parts were erased and his backstory is told from Doppios perspective witch is why so many important details are lift out.
He’s kinda meant to be mysterious and unknown events suit his character and his disorder or theoretically his possession. Either way I’ve never thought of that perspective before but the unknown part of Diavolo’s character is probably my favorite part of him.
I’m so disappointed that part 6 had such a troubled anime production because it needed a good anime to increase its standing in the community the most
It needs a good plot and characters. Which it doesn’t have.
@@bigsyrup8567 wrong
@bigsyrup8567 you're retarded, not part 6's problem.
My tinfoil is david productions fucked it over on purpose because they don't like it. They seem to play favorites with parts. The more goofy part 1-3 and 5 have good quality anime, while the more serious darker part 4 and part 6 get half-assed treatments. It's like they have tiktok kids' attention spans or something and if the story isn't haha funny crazy shit 24/7 they don't want it.
@@user-bx8sj6qm3w Part 1 got done incredibly dirty
I feel like a lot of people who overglorify Valentine seem to miss the entire point of Johnny's gun test at the end of their fight.
Johnny essentially called Valentine on his bluff. That, if he really believed all of the patriotic, help my nation rhetoric he spews, he could pick up the gun without any tricks or betrayals, that he would let another version of Gyro and himself live in peace.
And Valentine couldn't even manage that. Because for all of his bluster about his patriotism, about his love for his country, he is on top of that a self absorbed, deluded narcisist. He doesn't just want the corpse to protect his nation, he wants it to have his nation (and by extension, himself) be seen as the peak of the world. And he doesn't care how many people have to die for that to be accomplished. Letting Johnny and Gyro live would be meaning he failed, he lost, that he had to give up something. And his ego won't allow that.
All of his talk was just that...talk. Talk he uses to continuously justify his increasingly unjustifiable, monsterous actions.
Yeah, I’m not a huge fan of Johnny (his character development was kinda cool but just not that “wow” since I’ve played a lot of JRPGs, and I couldn’t get on board with his corpse-hunting motivation) but he was totally awesome in that arc
Recently I wanted to draw Morioh's sky so I looked into it and I realized how much thought went into it. The fact that it's not just yellow but clear yemlow at the morning, strong or more brownish yellow at the evening, blue but with golden clouds at the sunset, and purple and dark at night. It's genuinely so interesting. That together with the blue and purple plants bushes and trees really made Morioh felt so unique thanks to the artistic direction
For a guy that doesn’t use color normally, Araki is fantastic with letting his characters stand out from the background with color.
Another cool thing about Kira getting run over by the ambulance is that for the guy that always wanted to live a normal life, his death is one of the most ordinary things that could happen to someone.
What i also like is that he died in an area that wasn't secluded from the public as usually how final battles go. Like he died in a public area with many civilians around so he didn't live a quiet life to the end.
But yeah, vehicle manslaughter. Very common way to die, always look around your surroundings when any car is near!
@@KikoElGatito and more importantly, always look around you when *you’re* driving
you are in control of a 2 ton death machine that can kill someone in seconds, that responsibility is massive
That one guy's take about Dr. Who frustrates me on a fundamental level. The 2005 reboot was specifically written TO BE an entry point for new viewers. By that point in time, the last primary Dr. Who media to exist was a TV movie from 10 years ago that was not critically well received, and the last thing before that was when the original run of the show was cancelled in 1989. The show had been off the air for almost two decades. For all that most fans were concerned, Dr. Who was cancelled before the 2005 series came out. A good portion of fans who were just getting into Dr. Who through the reboot were not even born during the Seventh or Eighth Doctor's runs.
New Who was written specifically to be both a soft reboot for older fans to see how the story continued after the original run's cancellation, and also an original story for new fans to jump into without feeling the need to be caught up on 30 years worth of British sci-fi. New Who re-introduces elements from the original series in a well-paced way that is a fun reference if you know what it is, but also basically expects that 80% of the audience has never seen it before. For instance, there's a single episode that brings back one of the Doctor's old companions from the 70's, as well as having a bunch of other references and cameos from that era. If you've seen the Fourth Doctor's run, its a huge fanservice fest. If you haven't, the show is just like "Oh, this is a girl the Doctor used to know a long time ago. Don't worry about it." and it works.
Compare this to SBR, which began publication less than 11 months after the end of Stone Ocean. It is reasonable to believe that most people who perhaps started getting into JoJo through SBR, through a Jump subscription for example, were at least aware of the series at that point, and may have even known someone reading it up to that point, since it had only been on hiatus for about a year.
Dr. Who is also a show in which it heavily incentivizes skipping parts. Whenever a new fan asks where to start with Dr. Who, the most common answer I hear is "Start with the 2005 series". But some people even say "Start with whoever the newest Doctor is." and I can't say I entirely disagree with either of those suggestions. When it comes to New Who, as long as you're starting from a certain showrunner's first story, you'll be fine. Nobody tells you to go back and start with William Hartnell and watch every episode meticulously in order. Dr. Who stories are very episodic. Sure, most episodes are part of a three-to-seven-episode-long arc, but most of those arcs are standalone. I've even heard some people say to start with the 2005 series, and if you start to get bored and wanna see something different partway through to just go back and watch a story or two from Tom Baker's run. And I don't hate that idea either.
I hear people all the time say "Oh, you can skip Part X, because Part Y doesn't spoil anything from that part", as if "spoilers" are the only thing holding someone back from reading a story in the order it was written. Like, as a Halo fan, yeah, Halo Reach doesn't spoil the trilogy or anything, but if you're interested in the plot, you should play the trilogy first. JoJo is the same way. While Part 7 might not spoil Part 6, and Part 6 might not spoil Part 5, and Part 5 might not spoil Part 4, you miss the natural evolution of themes throughout the series. By Part 7, JoJo really becomes a theological thinkpiece about humanity's role in the universe, and how mathematics affect nature, and the value of a human soul, and how fate defines our actions. That stuff is all hinted at as early as Part 4 (honestly as early as Part 1 if you're paying attention), before it really doubles down in Part 5. Part 6 really takes those ideas hammers them home before I feel that it truly bears fruit in Part 7. Sure, you CAN skip to Part 7 and not be confused as to what's going on, or have major plot revelations from the first 6 Parts spoiled, but it's much more satisfying to see it happen naturally.
In a semi-recent Scott the Woz video on his side channel, his friend is explaining the plot of Phantom Blood to him, and Scott asks if it's jarring to go from a series about Victorian-era vampires to "Bugs Bunny" (referencing Bohemian Rhapsody, and how at the time the vide was recorded, many fans thought that the anime would substitute Bugs Bunny instead of Mickey Mouse for legal reasons). His friend says 'no', because it's such a natural progression you don't even think about it. That is now my biggest example as to why one should not skip parts in JoJo.
Jesus, paragraphs on paragraphs!
@@ANDORRA195this shit was PASSIONATE bro
ChurroDoughnut manifesto
since he bassicly skipped part 5, here's a hot take that shouldnt be one: Its bad
It's literally impossible to not skip parts in Doctor Who. The show is so old that entire episodes are missing from the BBC's archives.
Also my Doctor Who hot take is that the 50 years of writing plus time travel makes it impossible for the show to stay consistent. I'm pretty sure even New Who contradicted itself.
Would be cool to make a video regarding the connection between (almost)every stand and user. While for some stand users it’s not elaborated on how the stand fits them, but part 3 with tarots and part 5 especially really make them intertwined(purple haze represents fugo’s rage and perfectionism, narancia’s aerosmith represents his childlike behavior…)
ngl this would be cool as hell to watch
Superfly user whose stand trapped him inside an electrical tower and he clearly hates it:
Hey 👁 👄 👁
The way you cut out part of that Funny Valentine comment and then revealed that he had never read it is hilarious- I genuinely thought that was someone who had read it. Funny Valentine is a great villain, but I can’t believe people defend him as a good guy. That’s WILD and really shows that people are suppressing memories about the more disturbing parts, especially the Lucy bit
Look, Griffin from Berserk has defenders.
@@gazeboist4535 holy shit people genuinely think griffith did nothing wrong?
as a newcomer i thought it was just a massive in-joke for berserk fans 💀
@@PsycheTrance65 AFIAK it's not completely literal, and there's definitely a spectrum, but I have seen apparently serious arguments that Griffith's macro actions (the massacre of the Band and the conquests by Falconia) are justified as a sort of least-bad means of creating a utopia. There are also people who are willing to sympathize with him over his tragic backstory enough to gloss over at least some of his more personal crimes.
Generally these sorts of arguments gloss over what Griffith actually reveals about himself with his actions towards the end of the Golden Age and only listen to the self-aggrandizing speeches he makes where he tells on himself to some extent, but doesn't quite acknowledge being an arrogant, entitled sociopath who just spent a lot of time unable to respond to setbacks by attacking those around him.
@@PsycheTrance65it’s a joke 95% of the time
Valentine WAS right and this wil never change.
I love how Kira is both relatable in how human he when he's fearing to get caught and at the same time can be an extremely menacing villain.
That's an amazing combination
As a Doctor Who fan who started with the 2005 series quite recently in fact I completely agree with your analysis and want to add my own two cents.
The main difference between Steel Ball Run and the 2005 Series is that the latter was specifically written as a Reboot meant to reintroduce Doctor Who to a new audience after a decades long hiatus.
The show also adds intrigue for returning viewers by changing up the established status quo in a significant way.
SBR doesn't do that and as you pointed out actually builts heavily on the concepts introduced in the previous parts. The only reason people mistake it for a Reboot is that it features alternative characters based on Part 1.
The Part I would compare the most to Series 1 of NuWho is ironically Part 3 since it builds up on Part 1+2 while also shaking up the status quo by introducing Stands into the series.
I was literally about to comment on that hot take. Thanks for doing my job for me 🤣🤣🤣👍
And if its not clear by the OP's comment, 2005 Doctor Who is canonically connected to the 1963-1989 original series, as well as the 1996 movie. Whereas Parts 1-6 and 7-9 of JoJo are separate continuities.
Revival, not reboot. "Reboot" is usually taken by people to mean new continuity. Otherwise- agreed on all points.
another important bit of context is that a lot of old Doctor Who episodes simply don't exist any more due to a fire that happened, so it's hard to get the full experience of the old series.
Also the fact that classic Doctor Who ran for 30 years before stopping while JoJo part 1-6 (anime) ran for about 5 years. It's way easier to catch up to JoJo than Doctor Who, not even counting the fact that you can't even watch certain episodes of classic Doctor Who so it's impossible to get the full story.
The take at 22:11 sounds like it was written by Valentine himself 💀💀💀
Funnier Valentine and the funniest are better anyways 😒
“Why Funny Valentine was the best President in history”, by Funny Valentine.
Chapter One: *Girth.*
@@Jacksontrooper777 You forgot the funniest Valentine, Hilarious Halloween
People don't get that dealing drugs are also much worse crime considered In Japan. Judgenent Actor was replaced after he showed to take drugs.
I didn't even notice that the sky in part 4 wasn't blue, impressive
Me too, I always thought it was only like that in the openings
It fits in so well with part 4, looks so natural that I never noticed it was different
how? I swear jojo fans have no comprehension whatsoever
@@silentclaw6439 or maybe people get so engrossed in the story and dialogue that they dont notice background visuals?
@@silentclaw6439to be fair if someone watches with subtitles their attention will be mostly at the bottom of the screen and not the color of the sky 😂
I realize I’m just regurgitating what was already said in the video, but Jesus Christ, it truly is insane the sheer amount of comments I’ve seen of people genuinely believing that Valentine isn’t actually a bad person. Every conversation I’ve seen that involves him, no matter what platform it’s being discussed on, there’s always at least one guy coming up with some crazy mental gymnastics to excuse his actions or somehow wrap his character all up as a good person and that Johnny is actually the bad guy, and I know they aren’t trolling or rage-baiting because half of the time they’re getting positive feedback or upvotes for it.
I know we all love to poke fun and laugh at the low-hanging-fruit that is the “Jojo fans can’t read” stuff, but this is genuinely concerning.
Valentine is a “villian”, but an understandable one. And his motivations are based and correct.
@@bigsyrup8567so dooming the entire planet because of patriotism is correct and understandable? Please find help
@@bigsyrup8567 Johnny, tusk 4 his ass.
@@lordfreezer5631 Yes it is, it is heroic and righteous. You are just a weak fucking coward who doesn't have a resemblance of patriotic bone in his body
I think a lot of people see that sbr has a lot of conflicting morals and ambitions amongst the cast and uses that to write off valentine’s clearly evil intentions. I do think a lot of characters from the part don’t necessarily fit the traditional lens of good and evil, but valentine is NOT one of them
My hot take is that killer queen is the most cutest and terrifying stand of all time like look at that cute kitten
It combines the cuteness and cute ear factor of a cat with the horrifying destructive potential and murderous inclinations of a cat
stray cat would be awesome to have as a pet, it's really just a cat that won't make much noise, especially at night, and it will protect you from any danger
I think a lot of people fail to understand the meaning behind gyro's sacrifice for the child and write off his character as a whole simply because the child is stated to have died later on. It's the fact that gyro gave the child the opportunity to live and ultimately die as a free man. Too many times do I see people cursing Araki for being a bad writer over this just because the meaning behind it flies over their heads.
“Ultimately, when a tennis ball bounces off the top of the net, no one knows which side it will fall on.”
I do like the idea I feel like it could've been executed better, the lil bab is only relevant to gyro those 2 times, and seeing "he died" at the end always kills me, its so fuckin random LMAO
Its a really good character moment but damn is it just irrelevant
It's also less about achieving the goal and more Gyro sticking to his guns right to the end. He always believed in justice and wanted to keep innocent people safe, and if he ever took the easy way out with someone else getting harmed as a result, he'd be betraying himself. So even if the kid didn't live a long life, it doesn't matter. Dead men tell no tales, and Gyro lived according to what he believed was right without giving up his principles along the way.
I never understood why people hated on Chase OP, loved it the moment I heard it
Phantom Blood got me so hooked when I first watched it.
By the way, the last chapter of the Phantom Blood manga may be one of the best last chapters to any shonen I've seen. I love it from the chapter cover to the beautiful last page
mfs be fine watching 1100 one piece episodes but get mad when they need to watch 9 episodes to understand the basic of jojo (nothing against one piece I am at episode 1007)
People hate committing to anything. I've seen people bitching that they HAD to watch One Piece up to the time skip, as if that was slog to get through before the main course and not a main course itself. People are dumb, and can't appreciate what they have, they take it as an obligation and not fun.
For the record to OP deniers, I watched OP up to the time skip and took a break. It's long but very fun and worth it if you like it.
@@blueshellincident yeah like, people be watching one piece just to say at the end of every arc "omg this arc was super long and extended, pretty sure it was shorter on the manga" GO READ THE FUCKING MANGA THEN. And I am not gonna mention skypiea.
Heritage for the Future was a mistake
The take at 21:30 is so true.
Part 7 is an amazing part, and i love it to death, but people act like it invalidates every other part in the series and hype it up too much.
When i first read it with the expectation that it was so amazing, it would blow every part out of the water, i came out of it a little disappointed.
But when i reread it without those sentiments/expectations, i enjoyed it a lot more.
I also feel like this thought process applies to other parts, too, since some parts have this occur in the opposite way where people blindly rush through them to get to another, "better", part. (Part 1 and 6 being the standout examples)
Some fans are really annoying with their hate for certain parts.
Like I get not vibing with one, but don't treat it like it's dog shit.
Yeah I had the same experience, I really want to read p7 without the hype but its a little hard with how common it is
I went into Part 7 expecting the best thing since sliced bread with the way the fandom was praising it, but then when I actually read it, it was just... okay? Like, yeah, SBR was a really good part, and Araki basically doubling his page count per chapter meant that it had a lot more meat to it, but it was most certainly overhyped.
Kind of ironically, my favourite part of SBR was when they brought back something from the previous parts - the moment where alternate universe Diego shows up with The World. I will actually remember everything about the moment I first saw it for the rest of my life.
I'm afraid as time goes on and the newer generations discover jojo, these blatant and obscenely confident misunderstandings will become more common. Especially considering how the average attention span keeps plummeting to inconceivable depths.
"Hamon Beat Trashes your garbage JoJo opinion" has got to be one of my favorite genres on youtube. Keep it up
i actually love part 6 to death but my only complaint is that i wanted to see more of weather report because his character and stand was so cool genuinely
I wonder if American fans don't see Valentine as a good guy because his actions are to benefit America. In another wording, they might be more inclined to find him evil if he was Japanese or German or British. The ultimate irony of that comment is that Valentine and Toru essentially have the same goal: ultimate prosperity for their people at the expense of all others, and yet the comment praises Valentine while scorning Toru.
It’s not only an understandable motivation, but a based one.
I think its a mix of Americans being Americans + reading comprehension of jojo fans + over hyping jojo became a big mixing pot for people saying Valentine wasnt evil
He said he doesn’t know anything about toru
Valentine could lead any country. He's a good leader that would do anything for his nation.
They don't scorn Tooru tho. I actually think Tooru is only not brought uo cuz even some manga onlys say they skip part 8
I consider Pucci's and Weather's backstory to be the best backstory ever told in Jojo's.
The dynamic and tragedy, as well as the conclusion to both characters absolutely flawless writing and think it's one of the best segments/arcs in Jojo.
21:43 I think this is a big factor in people not understanding/liking Part 6. Too many “fans” treat it just as a stepping stone to get to the “good part”
This happens with every anime I feel. People that skip the early section of Naruto, or One Piece before the timeskip, or Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency.
I bet new people are just gonna start skipping to the Shibuya section of JJK anytime now lmao.
@@blueshellincidentone piece was low key better BEFORE timeskip
we live in a world where "funny valentine was kind of a good guy" people can vote.....
its so hilarious that the guy who spewed that hot take hasnt even read part 7
See ya in the 2024 elections i guess😅
@@ESALTEREGO what great options the US have, Genocide country sympathiser, and racist who abuses women and is happy to remove human rights
Don't worry Trump is going to jail unlike Funny Valentine, Biden's punishment is that he'll be dead in a few years
Christ is risen
2:55 I feel like it also goes down to simplicity of the words. For most people Ripple is a harder word to use and remember than Hamon and for a lot of non-native speakers, both words are likely meaningless. When it comes to Kaiten and Spin - it's other way around. Spin is easier to pronounce and remember and it's also a much more common word. Being released at different times and different (fan)-translation styles - also probably affected it.
4:50 We had few stand users that would be nice as Hamon users, mostly due to the nature of their stands. Like Dragon's Den for me feels like a logical example, where stand isn't necessarily the main power of its user. We also had few other stand users, whose power was more area/effect based or who had drone-stands - not necessarily actively offensive.
I mean, we kinda got that in part 7 tbh. Spin is a similar concept to Hamon and for many users - it's a secondary power or a power that buffed their stand abilities. We could have more stand users that fought alongside their own stand. Or stand users with more non-combative, but useful abilities that could fight by themselves when needed.
I think hamon makes more sense anyways, since it kinda sounds like breathing. Ripple doesn't really have any sort of connection to the actual acts the characters prefom
Spin in part 7 being used alongside stands is exactly the kind of thing I wanted to happen to hamon in part 3 but didn't.
I read the fan translated manga back in 2004 which always called it ripple. I didn't recall seeing hamon used in translations until the 2012 anime. I can't remember what word the official translation of the 1993 anime or VIZ's early 2000's translation of Startdust Crusaders manga used.
Man idk why but Jonathan's theme feels just like a spider-man theme. It has that heroic feeling, the sense of loss, tough will and most importantly its there blessing and curse because one is a Joestar and other one is Spider-man.. damnn
Part 6 is so experimental with it's abilities and I love that about it. It does make the actual quality of some of the stands (for my taste) very hit and miss, some of my absolute favorites stand fights are in that part as well as the ones I can't stand at all being in the same part. Though, all the parts have weaker encounters and the overall story and character arcs are some of my favorite. Part 4 is my favorite part but Jolyne is my favorite JoJo.
It was so fun to hear your thoughts on these! Very much looking forward to a part two.
Of... of course the stands in Stone Ocean were extra insane, *it was the end. You finish a story with a bang.* And honestly I always saw the part as Araki's take on a biblical apocalypse where the end of the world is preceded by a long string of surreal cataclysms, something that stands are just perfect for.
YES! I was too was thinking the reasons for the stands being so weird and unorthodox was supposed to be a sort of biblical allusion, what with bible stories having unnatural occurrences happening. Like a baby is created by a bunch of souls and becomes a stand after merging with a bone of a dead vampire and a priest. A man made people turn to snails just by having them contact rainbows with subliminal messages. Meteors from the sky. Rods, which technically don't even exist. Dementia. Girl turns to string. Memories being taken. Just Dragon's Dream.
The list goes on, and the funny thing is that i see people turn away from the bible the same way they turn away from part 6 due to weird abilities displayed. And the crazy thing is said weird things tend to be metaphors for something.
nah that guy talking about how valentine is actually is good guy just to say he hasn't read it is absolutely diabolical
It's honestly haunting to see how many people find Funny Valentine's actions just. It is true that there is nothing evil about wanting prosperity for people, but Valentine wants prosperity for *his* people. He does not care if their happiness goes beyond what is fair and is at the expense of others. In fact, it sometimes seems that Valentine *prefers* it be at the expense of others, as that would make the United States the greatest country. In short, his ideology is a cautionary tale of national pride gone too far, and a failure to see that suggests a blindness to the evil that pride can bring.
I honestly love this style of content, it feels like we get to have a kind of conversation/active discussion with you as a community around this series that we all love.
I really like this style of video with you sharing you opinion on takes of the public. Would not mind at all if this becomes a series
I think that more people should read Purple Haze Feedback, it has a strong story, good characters, plus we get to see more of Purple Haze and see more of what it can do.
People saying that Funny Valentine is not evil says a lot about their perspective on morality and sexual consent
Edit: My god, the replies are just unbelievably disgusting. And worst of all, y'all are just proving my point. These people should really touch some grass and get some therapy
Or they just didn’t read the part and missed that scene. I’ve seen that plenty of times
@@analyticalstarscream5299 yes, that's also true
He’s an American politician, of course he’s a pedo
He’s an American politician, it’s a given that he’s a pedo
I’m not saying I agree with Valentine’s ideology, but this kinda reminds me of that Marvel villain thing where they bring up a good point and then just randomly go and kill people to show they are supposed to be evil.
I like this new video idea a lot - I love hearing you talk and it's fun having you address more subjective matters along with the usual topics!
I love how you always organize the video by part so I can stop your video and come back when I've caught up. I did that for every part so far lmao
Honestly I can’t really think of a better thing for Dio to attack Jotaro with at that point in the fight other than the steamroller. Not only is it a great reveal, but I think it perfectly fits Dio’s over the top nature, it’s an awesome “fuck you” to Jotaro, and is honestly a good strategy on his part. Hit Jotaro with something so crazy, it’s harder for him to react to what, in Dio’s mind, would be the killing blow.
And Jotaro still managed to deal with it.
I think in addition to what you said about Kira's death, it ties into him wanting to live a quiet life, which he's stated as one of his primary motivations. As such, he's given one of the most common causes of death: a car accident
Keep making these kinds of videos they are a joy to watch!
This video was informative and super fun! This seems like it would be a good series
10:08 people didn’t like Chase because it sounded more like an anime opening from a completely different series like Bleach or Naruto rather then a JOJO OP. I’ve even remember some saying it sounded more like an SAO Op then a jojo op lol (sao was the punching bag of the community back then 😂)
i thought it was because of the Singers voice?
It was also because the song was like "chase" (repeated for 80 times) and a final sentence. Also the visuals with Crazy diamond fighting against some kind of dark energy strings didn't help
I like the song by itself, but it's kind of an aggressive song instead of what should be a mysterious one. I can't see Josuke rocking out to Chase, but Great Days and CNBT both, for sure.
honestly chase always hit hard and felt apt to me, yeah even with the slice of life shenanigans in morioh it still has the dark underbelly of kira and angelo, and i still think angelo is one of the most gruesome jojo villains and he's a minor villain at that
We now live in a world where one can argue the musicals are the superior adaptations. What a time to be alive...
Sometime they can be... sometimes
I really like this as a series, I would love if you continued with more videos like these!
This video reminded me how much I love Jojo. Make more vids like this brother
My hot take:
Bohemian rhapsody is the most underrated arc in the entire franchise
I would have watched 5 more episodes of that arc. I'm always incredibly fascinated by plot lines that take up a theme of "dream" or "metaphor" or fairy tale, like it was there - it's just a really neat way to show character development and their inner worlds without it being too blatant. Bohemian Rhapsody was fucking great and it ended way too early IMO
@@vaguedecay 🤝
@@vaguedecay
Sing a song of sorrow, for a world where copyright doesn’t exist…
Its not my favorite of p6 but honestly I do agree
I fuckin love Anasui and WR so seeing them do stuff together was so much fun
AND THE "this shit aint disney" LINE WILL FOREVER SAVE IT
@@cyruscrompton8221 if it got remastered i'm pretty sure araki would be way more safe to use and reference disney/mickey mouse since mickey is public domain
I wanted giorno and josuke to appear during the part 6 ending, but as cameos with them watching the events of Made if Heaven from their point of view with the audience only being able to see their backs while they look up to the sky or something like that.
tbh same. I was considering drawing it too
Love the hot takes, this should definitely be a staple
I like that we got to see the absolute peak of what Hamon can do, at least briefly, and then it takes a huge back seat for the rest of the story
i dont understand how anyone could think part 1 is boring and unwatchable and be able to sit through the hell that is part 3 until dios mansion
I feel like the people who think that either skipped a HECK of a lot of episodes (or didn't watch Part 3 at all, or just watched Ora compilations on YT) or they just watched the two OVAs and read the wiki for what's different in the DaPro anime.
Or they didn't watch Phantom Blood at all and just wanted to complain about something not having Stands or Bubble Bae Caesar in it. (Like Jonathan didn't pull some stunts just as crazy as Joseph's own gimmicky stuff, I swear Viva Reverie got it right summarizing PB as this game of one-upmanship between two grade schoolers playing make-believe, with all the balls to the wall insanity that involves.)
I think its because stands are better then hamon imo. Pre egypt had some good fights but it was a slog to get through. When the crusaders get to egypt, the pacing and fights become better. Part 1 had nothing interesting about it, it was just generic. Its not bad, just ok.
This isnt to say part 3 is great it has issues. Its just compared to both i prefer part 3
Same. I actually watched Part 1 and 2 and thought they were good, but once I started Part 3, I just couldn't stand (hah) the "villain" of the week formula, so I switched to the manga for better pacing.
Best decision ever, to read the manga for the rest of the series. (I also ended up heavily disliking Part 5 back when I read it, but the anime made me like it!)
Man I think I'm the single guy who finds every single jojo part as S tier
Both Part 1 and 3/5ths of Part 3 were excruciatingly painful. I thought most people knew this. The Dio's Mansion section typically makes people forget how uninteresting everything that came before it was.
One of the most confusing things to me that people who are getting into the series say to me is that they do not care about Caesar's death in part 2, and I wanted to express that this video covers exactly why I think it's one of the best in the series. With the overall themes being a celebration of humanity, I feel like Caesar has always perfectly embodied that theme in his final moments (I mean he quite literally talks about the human spirit in his whole monologue)
People say that Caesars death isn't impactful because we only know him for a few episodes, but I have always strongly disagreed. In general, I think death in JoJo is by far one of the strongest points of the series overall. Every major death to me (in the cast of heroes) is extremely well executed, impactful, and feels so important and meaningful to the overall story and advancement of its plot and themes.
What a wonderful day a hamon beat vid!
Love this format man. Keep up the good work
I always respected part 1 for being "the start" but only recently did I appreciate its vibe, it's a very traditional hero's journey but told in a very confident and unique way. I love Jonathan's chivalry, Dio's unrepentant evil, Speedwagon's development, Zeppeli's batshit crazyness... and the ending is a real tear jerker.
Part 6 is one of the best parts, full stop
please keep making these!! i loved this :)
You need to do more of these videos! This was a really fun video! Also cannot understand how anyone could skip Phantom Blood, let alone dislike it
i did not sign up to hear hamon beat say "Gay Love Child" when clicking on this video
The people who think Valentine is 'good', just because he wanted prosperity for one country, should just start worshipping Pucci as the second coming of the christ, because he wanted DIO's 'Heaven plan' to benefit the entire humanity.
Dude straight up, I have so many people telling me they skip or dislike Part 1 and I'm totally with you on this one
great video, definitely do some more, it opens a lot of opportunity for discussion and it's just interesting to hear more of your opinions
People just don't like part 1 because it's the most tragic and serious part and most people just watch JoJo for the memes. Not saying part 1 doesn't have the trademark bizarreness and some funny moments but it had way less of it than say, Part 3 or Part 4.
I think that might also be why part 6 is very disliked as well. Like i see that both part 1 and part 6 are usually the parts people recommend skipping, people tend to hate or outright shit on, or just plain overlooked. Both end with the protagonists dying too. But it's a shame cuz i feel there's a good amount of nuance and i admittedly like how bleak those parts are as they lead to interesting conflict for the characters. It isn't just punch, move on, punch move on and suceed on your goals. Even in physical fights, the protagonists tend to lose something or not be able to prevent all conflict from happening.
Dio boxes jojo and jabs a thumb in his eye, people miss all that character build up.
@@KikoElGatito I don't think so, anime only, I think part six had weird pacing which is the biggest reason for disliking it, I thought it was just mediocre and not very memorable, I don't think it ever really had any stand out moment compared to other parts despite the general spectacle.
Like part two fights against Kars and Whammu, were clear standouts, part three, Darby and DIO, part 1, Dio's fights, part 4 Kira fights, part 5, Risotto, Bucciarati (I'd want to include more from five, Ghiaccio or Prosciutto but oh well). I can't think of anything other than Pucci's fight against weather and Pucci's final.
(my own comparison of watched parts for reference, 2>5>1=4>3>6)
@@voxsvoxs4261 I mean, imma be honest with you, but the fact that you said you're an anime only fan shows that you're lacking a lot of context, but that actually ain't on ya.
That's actually on David Pro cuz aside from Part 1, Part 6 was done really dirty in the anime. Like A LOT was cut out, so characters personalities weren't properly displayed and the plot was more out of focused. Sure there were some stuff added to it, but it's secondary to what was cut. The surprising thing is that Part 6 is actually longer than Part 5 in the manga, yet gets an episode less than Part 5.
Part 5 realistically speaking would have been like a 30 episode anime, but well, the thing is that Part 5 wasn't popular outside of Japan before the anime released. But David Pro really did put effort into making Part 5 and that effort shows as now it's well liked world wide instead of just it's home country.
Shame that they dropped the ball hard on Part 6, as you would expect that they would up the quality, especially since this is the final part of the original universe. Instead, we get overtly reused assets (notice how a lot of Stone Ocean merch uses the same goddamn Jolyne.png), a watered down plot, and bland animation with out of place CGI here and there.
What sucks is that David Pro had the money as Netflix gave them a huge budget and time constraints weren't placed (you CAN blame Netflix for the dropping batches), so yeah, kinda don't want David Pro adapting Part 7(for all i care, they can continue making those crappy Rohan Kishibe spin-offs). The lack of care is evident in the blu-rays even as all that was changed was lighting. Then there's that Stone Ocean was assigned a B-Team, which is a red flag as b-teams typically consists of less than experienced workers. Dunno if you heard, but the reasoning behind the hiring competent guest animators like grand guerilla later on in the anime was because of this.
With all of that being said (sorry, but I really don't like part 6 anime), if you liked part 1 based off the anime alone, you really should check out the manga as there's a good amount of content cut of, more than the aforementioned part 6, and it's a very good read!
@@KikoElGatito that's fair, my biggest problem with that is I have a pretty big to read list, so I haven't gotten into reading JoJo yet.
skipping past part 1 and 2 because they're " boring " so you can watch PART THREE is actually insane
Yeah lmao
jojo fans will skip big chunks of the anime or even watch it through youtube clips, never read the manga and have the gall to say "araki forgot" or "part 1 boring" when they can't even remember major plotlines
Definitely like this format, keep it up!
Hell yeah! part 1 appreciation!! i love part 1 for what it is and people are so unfair comparing it to parts that araki wrote like 20 years later lmao
What i learn about these "hot takes" are that jojo fans can't read
Now give us cold takes 🗣️
Part 7 is the best part or something
Speedwagon is Bae
Dio is hot
@@toorubase03that's hot
Chase is actually good
I love that communities have a guiding voice when it comes to explaining stuff/lore
Fromsoft has vaatividya And jojo has The goat Hamon Beat
keep the content up bro love your vids
This is such a good and fun idea for a video. This is gonna be nice
jojo fans are the type of people who watch the main villain:
1. Sell drugs to children
2. Order Chiocollata to kill Gelato e Sorbet in probably the most gruesome and brutal way possible
3. Attempt to kill his own daughter solely to keep his indentity safe
4. Kill Bruno Bucciarati (which is later "revived" by Giorno's power and his own will, but ultimately deteriorates as the part progresses until his death)
5. Kill Abbachio (Fr this time)
6. Severely debilitate Polnareff and cut any contact he could have with Jotaro
7. Kill Narancia (also fr)
8. Be the main reason on why Doppio's life was "bad"
and the they get mad when he gets punished.
He has died, and will die, for more seconds than he was ever alive, for more atoms than he ever touched, and far more times than he broke fate. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be punished, but at some point torture becomes cruel. Diavolo reaches that point no matter what you think is adequate for him.
I think the point made in the video is very strong:
Diavolo COULD SCAPE FATE.
Meaning that, even if he was dethrowned as a whole mafia's boss, he would still be able to scape whatevee punishment was sent his way, thanks to his very specific stand, that makes him able to scape any situation by re-positioning himself elsewhere.
The ONLY way to punish a guy this cruel, insensitive, and inhumane, is with a punishment he would not be able to scape.
¿It was the most humane way?
No.
But it was the only way to stop him from being a monster... A enclosure of fate itself that was not able to be controlled by him.
(Like, imagine someone like him with the power to manipulate, not his fate only, but others' fates as well, thanks to make his stand more powerfull with the arrow… He would become a DIO 2.0 VERY quickly.)
Ok that's all bad, but some villains are worse. Dio had a mom literally eat her own baby. He had a quick death.
Nah. It is still insane that Diavolo has had the worst fate in all of fiction.
Yes, the point is he tried dominating fate so he was punished by fate. But morally speaking, he deserves a torturous death. NOT ALL OF THEM!
Like even his will resets to zero: He can't even get accustomed to how painful it is.
It just looks extra weird given he's not even the most evil villain in the series, not even the most evil in his own part.
I mean, Diavolo probably just ordered chiocollata to kill sorbet an gelato without any specification and the gruesome death was just chiocollata's twisted touch.
It’s insane how bad so many jojo fans are at actually understanding what they’re reading. Especially with the part 6 stuff
Great video 👍 I'd love for this to become a series!!
Legit so happy you have the same opinion as I do about part 1, that's so awesome to hear someone with the same take, everyone who I personally have met are not really into the first part at all ☹️
(20:09 20:53) I would like to mention that, as someone who actively watches Kamen Rider, each season is very much a completely separate thing. While you could absolutely start with the original Kamen Rider show, starting from any of the other series is completely fine as well.
And even with crossovers and extra media, they often have debatable canonicity to the series involved.
I don't think he meant it as in they're all connected. He's recommending you start from the beginning to see how the series changes and evolves over time, which will give you a deeper appreciation for the franchise as a whole. I'm doing just that with Godzilla, and it is very fascinating to see how much things change and how much they stay the same over the decades.
@@leetri That I understand. I'm just giving my thoughts and explaining that it's not the only valid way to go about watching Kamen Rider.
@@leetri Yeah but the original is 98 episodes of mostly monster of the week from 1971, recommending it as the entry point is just going to make most people give up early on. It's not like Godzilla where each movie is like two hours at most, you could watch half of the Godzilla franchise in the same time it would take you to finish the first kamen rider show.
Thinking that funny valentine is a good guy despite his evil actions, is kinda funny and sad cause tbh this very realistic towards real people
Fun video, would have watched while at home, but I had to enjoy my jojo fix now!
Great format idea
How do you spot an American? They think Funny Valentine is a good guy.
I can’t explain how absolutely cathartic it is to hear someone point out the definitive fact that, yes actually, Valentine IS VERY EVIL. This particular opinion has always been especially concerning to me when you apply the way these people look at him to real-life politicians. But even without bringing it into real life, it’s patently ridiculous to think that the man who wants to redirect all misfortune onto the rest of the world for the sole benefit of his own country (and by virtue of being the president of that country, himself) is a good person, even if you somehow ignore all of the murder and SA and other flat out evil stuff he does that just can’t be justified.
What a reveal it is to see that guy never even read Part 7 too, lmao. You can’t make this shit up.
I really like part 1. It gets to the point really quickly. No fluff.
Hamon Beat is one of the sassiest Jojo youtubers ever, and i love it.
Here's mine JoJo hot take: I think Hamon Beat is pretty cool B)
3:00 do you think that SBR subs (when the anime comes out) will sub the power as 'Kaiten', making the community call if that instead of Spin?
"spin" is so iconic i really hope that doesn't happen
love your vids man
I love this as a new series, its quick and simple, and can be fun when you find "hot" takes that are just crazy. Also part 2 is still my favorite, i was meh on part 1 when i first saw it, but love it upon the rewatch. Yes i am a dub anime only, and even I got the 2nd coffin chamber and how Dio's ice powers work before i saw your video on them.