Debunking Araki Forgot Extras 7
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Once again answering JoJo fan questions that I've missed before.
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Intro: Crazy My Beat - Coda
Stardust Man Returns
Mystic
Higashikata House
Peaceful Street Corner
Puro
Fire Shaman
Purple Thorns
Alba
Tense
Quirk
Old Town
Rocky Mountain Village
Reply with your Araki Forgot topics for a future video. Covering Parts 1-8 as well as spin-offs.
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Jolyne mentions she can’t give the disk to the speedwagon foundation due to her visitor rights being taken away. Why couldn’t Ermes or FF just give the disk to them
Im wondering why the crusaders in part 3 couldn't just take a private jet? If I remember correctly they didn't want to fly for fear of hurting other passengers in the crossfire, so just remove the passengers? Im sure the speedwagon foundation could hook them up. I suppose (if im not stupid) its more of a plot hole then an Araki forgot, but is there any justification for it?
I still want to see what could be your response to why Alternate World Diego can spam Time Stop while someone like Jotaro couldn't, despite both being humans.
Araki forgot how ceaser was able to kill mark with hamon
This one's a bit of an oddity. Why is it that Jotaro's memory disc in a dying Anasui was dissolving and on the verge of erasure, but Pucci was able to retrieve Perla's well beyond her death? Did the manga make it clearer that she died in his arms or somesuch?
Idk why but the idea of Rohan dying randomly at the end of part 6 and quickly decaying is hilarious to me
Grandpa Rohan 💀
Speedrun
@@Cinn4947nah its SpeedRohan
how retarded does one have to be iswr
Bro that confused me alot when i was reading it😊
"Gyro has been in America all his life" "I've never read the manga"
Hamon beat how do you put up with this
Tbf, the comment does inadvertently bring up an entertaining idea, which is that Johnny had no idea what the fuck Gyro was singing about
He also makes jokes that only make sense if you are speaking in Japanese, which Johnny finds just as entertaining (whether that's extremely or not at all I have no idea)
@@snuffysamiirc, Johhny actually has a freeze frame with a wtf is he on about expression before sarcastically saying how good it is
@@iiiivvvv9986I am entirely convinced johnny actually thought that was the greatest song he’s ever heard
I just assume gyro is Italian because he's a zeppeli
I like the idea of the Joestars purchasing ocean property in the name of the Higashikatas specifically so that Jotaro can use the area for his marine research.
And Josuke can tell he own that, lol.
Based Uncle Josuke helping out his nephew
@@ChiefMedicPururuwhat the actual fuck were you tryna type 💀
That’s such a cute idea I love that
@@winningsmile1843 Huh? I just joked, nothing to get pissy about.
Einstein once said: "two things are eternal, the universe and debunking Araki forgot"
Lol
Really, the second one is just an extension of another infinite thing: human stupidity.
@@demi-femme4821 true but in reality hamon beat just explains what is what to the ppl in this series so it's kinda the same thing.
What I like about JoJo is that people can come up with very specific explanations, and everyone will accept it because Araki would definitely explain it like that
Theres also how people come up with their own plotpoints which not only requires leaps to think of but also assume araki forgot something that requires a stupid amount of stupid thinking
Dude either meticulously plans an entire story arc throughout multiple multiple parts or writes by the seat of his pants, there’s no in between.
Exactly...and some jojo fans seem to be dumb as bricks 😆😅. I never ever had any logic questions when reading jojo myself, but one needs to pay attention, that is completely true.
@@destroyerkitty9434I think he strikes a wonderful balance
He's a strange man, if it sounds strange, it sounds like him, if it doesn't sound strange, then it's stranger
22:38 we do know there are more Higashikatas since Josuke tells Jotaro that Tomoko is staying with family after Ryohei's death
Could be her family from the mothers side too
Well, if it was Josuke's family it would kinda make it easier to just ask Josuke for the abalones instead of stealing them, since Josuke definetly wouldnt be that much of a dick to refuse Tonio's plea for help. Especially since then we can see Josuke in the very same chapter at the table with Rohan who's eating said abalones himself (which would kinda give away that Tonio stole them)
@@marleonka.Rohan would absolutely rather risk his life trying to steal than asking Josuke for help tho
@@benjaminherrera1987 Rohan maybe, but not Tonio. And it was Tonio's idea and not Rohan's
@@marleonka. Tonio is not as affiliated with Josuke, Josuke was only a customer at his restaurant once, and angered him on that visit by going into the kitchen without washing his hands first
The idea that someone could believe Rohan was the grandpa just floored me
ZERO Reading Comprehension
@@shinyagumon7015 negative reading comprehension
rohan being into gilfs is a completely acceptable assumptions okay
it gets stupider. someone once asked how johnny removed the rock disease from his son with tusk act 4 without being on a horse despite the one manga panel that happens in shows him being on a horse
(Reading)^-1@@timtimothy5405
It would've been so funny if Avdol had set fire to the mansion like Joseph told him to because just imagine in part 6 Pucci gets a hold of Jotaro's memory disc and all he sees is the mansion in flames, the diary completely unseen, and his plans evaporating right before his eyes
While hilarious. It would end the plot rather quickly
Pucci: Jotaro’s memories will tell me everything I need to know!
Jotaro’s memories: Damn, I can’t see shit with all this smoke in my eyes.
Pucci:
@@halberd-3291Pucci: 😐🔫
I thought that too. Then I also thought couldn't vanilla ice erase the fire with cream which he probably would of did as soon as they caught wind of the idea of burning down the mansion which would of led to vanilla ice fighting everyone still. Still is a funny thought to screw over pucci.
@@luisquintero244 I just realized that they can't do jack shit to the mansion cuz dio's men will stop it one way or another
the sheer willpower jojo fans have to not understand a single thing that happened in the piece of media their fanbase revolves around is insane
I swear so many jojo readers/watchers just don’t pay attention…. Or they have zero comprehension skills
@@maccamachineNot gonna lie, I'm actually kind of afraid that this is going to reach the point where nobody can tell if someone is seriously suggesting Araki forgot or if that someone is just being a troll (sort of like when Hamon Beat went on a JOKE rant about the Part 7 tiny horses). We legit might not be able to figure out who is joking vs who doesn't have reading comprehension.
@@mrreyes5004 ok but like he definitely forgot about the tiny horses. it's the biggest plot hole in jojo and the whole series falls apart without any explanation for them
@@maccamachine These kinds of comments are usually made by people who only blurt out what they hear from shitposting compilations and by other people on the internet without actually knowing the source material. An example for this is the Fate franchise where everyone took Gigguk's video too seriously and now can't disassociate servants from one another without talking about how complicated it is.
Nowadays, there are a lot of people who identify as fans who don't actually engage with the media. They only see memes or at most clips.
I just figured Josuke got a bunch of money from Joseph as a way of saying "sorry i knocked up your mom and forgot about her for 17 years"
He did, at the end of DIU when he picked Joseph's wallet as he got on the ship.
For legal purposes, this is a joke.
My favorites are the ones that take a very minor scene and construct a completely new plot around and then get angry at the story for not following their wild line of thinking.
Also, in regards to Giorno's mom, since Fate is a real, tangible thing in Jojo, you could say that Giorno's mom and the rest of the mothers of the Sons of DIO got spared precisely because they were fated to survive and have DIO's offspring.
It's definitely mentioned somewhere that Dio chose mothers that would be more likely to mistreat or neglect their offspring to toughen the kids up in a way that would make them more likely to end up like him (Giorno got the honourable gangster he saved to correct some of that, though)...
...if he met the potential mother in a bar where they were getting pissed as a fart, and trying to chat him up, then that's ideal material as that's not typical mom behaviour... (might be in the Heaven Diary spinoff though)
Kind of like Melone vets for 'suitable' mothers for his Juniors...
It was in Over Heaven
Where is this mentioned@@zoefarr2600
Ann and Poco were going to be major reocurring characters
Shizuka was going to have her own part
George's necklace was going to be a major plot point
The kid from the Blue Hawaii arc was Emporio. (This was makes the least sense, because *even if* the STR universe was made by Pucci, Emporio couldn't have possibly been around then because Jojolion takes place a year before Stone Ocean
it's funny how exposition heavy JoJo is, characters will literally monologue about the details of what is happening on their death beds and somehow people will still not keep up with it
The problem is most of the explanations are stupid, and there is nothing wrong with it as long its entertaining, its a cartoon.
"They never explained this!"
"This guy's explaining it right here. Despite being a severed head."
"Yeah, TL;DR. Wall of text. Boring."
@@OtakuUnitedStudio yet when a series does show don't tell the same people will say that the series doesn't explain it. People just don't pay attention
Classic case of Hamon Beat forgot, did you not even consider the possibility that Rohan might have been into gilfs and married one with a family already in between the events of part 4 and part 6???
Diego moment
Honestly, that's something Rohan would absolutely do to get some cash for buying yokai infested mountains or some shit
‘Rohan, why did you marry a 90 year old woman!?’
‘I needed the experience of being a gold digger to write a better manga’
@@tylercoon1791 "You know you could have just asked Josuke to-"
"I REFUSE"
@@KaiserMazoku Rohan and Josuke are like the living embodiment of "those two friends who hate each other's guts." I think the only person Rohan hates more is Yukako.
3:14 This question is also litterally debunked earlier in the part since cheap trick was also defeated using the exact same ghost alleyway
Yep.
And the fact that Rohan used his Stand on Reimi, a ghost
And he was defeated by Rohan using an underhanded misdirection, giving him the most hilariously ironic death in the franchise.
Hell, it's even debunked during *its very first appearance* when we see the hands briefly manage to pull Echoes act 2 out of Koichi before Rohan puts a stop to it.
Literally *every single time the alleyway appears* we get to see the hands grabbing a stand.
" How does Gyro sing about pizza when he's American?"
" No I've never read the manga"
Some jojo literally have no reading comprehension skills, looking goofy af 😂
i mean you can have reading comprehension and not read something
doesn't make the question any less stupid though lol
It’s absolutely insane how slow some of these people are…. Some of these are so braindead and the answer is right in front of you these people just do not pay attention at all
@@maccamachine It's actually even worse than that. For some of these "aRaKi FoRgOt", the answer isn't only right in front of you, but there are times when the answer should ALREADY be in your mind. For example, someone asked why random crows appeared in Illuso's mirror world after Illuso revealed that living beings will only enter the mirror if he chooses it... even though the crows ARE LITERALLY DEAD from Purple Haze's virus and therefore the crows are automatically _not alive._ Because obviously "dead" = "not a living being".
These people aren't just missing specific stuff in the manga. They are also somehow forgetting _BASIC REAL-LIFE _*_FACTS._*
What, you're saying that we, as JoJo fans, are supposed to consume actual JoJo media and not just memes?😂
Man I have started to think
Jojo fans same as Breaking Bad Fans
Watched the entire show through YT shorts
In that one scene with that one character, the character did something when they should've done another thing.
I've never read JoJo I just want to feel included,
💀
DW No one asking these questions have read or watched JoJo, you're fitting right in
Yes yes, but see, that one character had to do the one thing, because if he did the other thing then the other character would have got him
I have also never read/watched JoJo
either you are both lying and have watched all of jojo or are realy good at guessing cuz that is kinda accurately how most boss fights go@@NutsGuy.
I remember a lot of people are confused as to why Giorno needed his brooch to make himself new arms, because he'd been shown to be able to give life to things using his feet.
*Giorno was bleeding out during that fight, of course he couldn't use his Stand at full power*
18:39 don't mess with us jojo fans, we didn't even read the manga
That part was so hilarious and idiotic.
He could have only ever watched the anime, but then complaining about stuff that's not in the anime yet because it just hasn't been made is pretty amusingly stupid.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio There should be a compilation of jojo fans who do that. I feel that it happens often
😊😊😊
Why didn't Bucciarati just use Stick Finger to kill DIO when he was knocked into the walmart bathroom and had to stop time?
Ok
Based@@Opana223
Dude, didn’t you read the manga?
During the Walmart Supercenter Arc, Buccaci couldn’t use Stick Flinger because he had his disks stolen by Pussi
@@charliestoke1668 The whale on the wall : 👁️👄👁️
@@OrangesLmao turn's into batman
You can’t realise the minimum human mental capacity without sorting by new on Debunking Araki Forgot videos
Most of those comments are from children and manchildren trying to get in a video to impress their friends.
@@StarHorderno, they're mostly from people who honestly put zero cognitive effort into consuming media.
5:31 That is my favorite, N A T A S C H A Giovanni, and his friends, Grant Mister, and Peter Frank
Can't forget Bruno Buckaroo and Foggy
they're gonna beat demonio with the power of POSE
3:13 It's also worth mentioning that the ghosts in the alley *did* have another interaction with a stand, both in its debut appearence, grabbing Echoes and in the end of Part 4, grabbing Killer Queen.
And Cheap Trick somewhere in between. Right before Rohan used Heaven's Door to tell it to go to Hell.
@@OtakuUnitedStudioAnd Rohan used Heaven's Door on Reimi the first time they got into the Ghost Alley
I like these videos as a means of clarifying my own understanding of the series. I almost never assume a confusion I have to be "Araki made a mistake", and it's nice when these videos cover something and I can understand why i misinterpreted something in the series.
This. I didn't believe any of the crazier things in the series but he really polished up my knowledge of the series like psychic links and other stuff I find difficult to follow.
Can't wait to see what buffoonery is showcased this time
These might be the worst yet. Especially the Ghost Alley and Sticky Fingers ones where you can tell they just didn't watch/read.
These are always fun to watch
We eating good tonight for sure
It’s so funny watching him get annoyed at the questions lol
@@EvilDead7836because so many are so simple and right in your face but jojo fans for some reason can’t pay attention or have zero comprehension skills
„Jonathan’s body had some kind of sentience and won’t accept Dio’s head” had me dying💀
Funilly that's pretty much what's happening.
I'd accept it-
@@NutsGuy.he would bite it off
I like to think that Esidisi being a Pillar Man he would have less difficulty on atach body parts and posses full, and even alive, bodies like Suzie Q
Dio being a vampire on the other hand and also ataching a whole new resistent body to his head made the full atachment way more difficult
Yeah, folks somehow seem to forget that the Pillar Men powerscale above any vampire (non-Stands of course). Even the strongest vampires are instantly disintegrated from sunlight, but the weakest Pillar Man was tough enough to only be turned to stone (Speedwagon scientists literally confirm that he was still alive in UV light). So EVEN _IF_ Loggins had some leftover Hamon in his dead arm, Esidisi's Pillar Man body is strong enough that he can graft the arm without any problem. Plus, Esidisi _only_ took one arm while Dio stole Jonathan's entire body neck-down.
"Are you sure you've read the manga?"
"No I haven't"
I let out an audible laugh. God damn it we are NEVER beating the allegations
JoJo Fans ACTUALLY read the manga you're asking questions about Challenge (Impossible)
@@measuringcup7080jojo fans actually watching the full anime and not just shorts on youtube challenge (impossible)
@@measuringcup7080THERE'S A MANGA??!?!?
@@tenderandmoist5011It came with your X-Box
@@ondururagittandeska2004I have the oldest manga volume known to man.
"Johnathan's body has some kind of sentience and won't accept Dio's head"
Yes
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who caught on to that
@@Hamon_Beat i am not disagreeing with you. It sounds funny out of context is all.
It got the reflex to hate Dio even in death.
Oh god this is good
Always fun to see what wacky questions there are.
and the wacky answers this guy gives lmao.
@@Matias-zh3dp it's jojo. It's all wacky. Some might call it...bizarre.
@@angryasian1998dun dun dun
@@alihorda ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
0:40 seconds
Jonathan used all of the Hamon he he had left to manipulate Wang Chan into causing the ship to explode, so saying “it was never stated he had Hamon in his body” Isn’t as accurate as just saying “he used all his hamon”
On the other hand (heh) when DIO burned a finger with a cigarette to show how a certain side of “his” body had weaker regeneration than the other, that was the same arm of Jonathan that Will Zeppeli originally bestowed Hamon into. And I believe that was the same side of DIO that he lost a leg on and was cracked and destroyed by Jotaro. So Hamon is involved here somehow but it’s not the direct reason.
@@halberd-3291 Plus, you also have to consider the difference between Vampire biology VS Pillar-man biology. We know that the Pillar Men are FAR more resistant to sunlight/Hamon than any vampire. Santana was the weakest Pillar Man, but he tanked Joseph's pre-training Hamon and he only turned to stone by sunlight, while vampires like Vanilla Ice were instantly disintegrated by sunlight. Esidisi is much superior to Santana, so the leftover Hamon in Loggins' dead arm just wasn't enough to do anything to Esidisi's internal body at all.
@@halberd-3291Here is a barely educated guess - Jonathan's body was being manipulated by Dio's brain, but was still Jonathan from the shoulders down. Being a Hamon user, it continued producing Hamon to some extent, despite being controlled by a vampire. This might be part of the reason Dio doesn't try to use his ice powers with Jotaro - he's not cold enough to do so anymore.
8:42 Not to mention, a big part of La Squadra arc is that THEY WERE ACTUALLY TRYING to get back together to attack Bruno group
Illuso was in Pompeii, Prosciutto and Pesci got on the train but they expected Illuso, Melone was trying to reach them in the train, an Ghiaccio tried to meet up with Melone
F por Risotto y su equipo, nunca podrán disfrutar Shrek SuperSlam
@@angelbasiliorodriguezbusto2065 Truly, a fate worse than death.
5:30 "Natascha." LOL The way he says it is absolutely hilarious as well.
13:55 They really thought Rohan worked that fast in other ways too 💀
0:30 - Why wasn't Esidisi affected bY hamon after transplant?
1:20-why was fly important for tracking DIO?
1:38-Lovers arc communication
2:35-Enya's TV
3:10-Ghost-stand interaction
3:45-Zipper man zipping bodies
4:35-DIO coffin exit time
5:03-Talking Head explained
5:38-Stand inheritance
7:03(non-canon)-Stone Mask destroyed
7:44-DIO and women
8:25-Risotto's investigation
9:20-DIO etching 14 phrases
10:03-Pucci's disc ability during transformation
11:40-Annasui's snail transformation
12:15-Weather's disc being disposed
14:09-Made in Heaven's aging
14:58-Bounty Hunter after GYRo
16:21-Alternate universe stands and users
17:15-Diego's lamp dinos
18:15-Pizza Mozzarella
18:47-Johnny's blood being stolen
19:54-Civil War and corpse's arm
20:49-Johnny in infinite rotation
21:16-TSKR and Higashikata property, TSKR continuity
23:30-Josuke school plotline
25:33-Milagro currency
26:14-Locacaca and Holly's treatment
not needed ngl
@@myfriendscallmejojo It's for my own reference actually
ty, i appreciate this.
Doing god's work man!
i love watching these because hamon beat progressively gets more and more insane with each video as the araki forgots become more deranged
In the Higashikata family case there's also the lottery money that Josuke has in his account that his mother didn't let him spend
Maybe she finally let him invest it into something to help bring more money in for the household.
Like renting it to the marine research lab that Jotaro works for.
5:32 Lol, even Narancia is laughing.
12:57 WHAT?? How the hell did he come to THAT conclusion? In fact, even the anime makes it obvious he's still alive.
Somebody read stone ocean with ass
This series of videos is extremely entertaining. I hope there's still enough topics for more.
one aspect of scary monsters that i think goes under appreciated is the fact that dr ferdinand (the original user of the stand) had a limited knowledge of palaeontology due to the time setting of the part, so their fantastical and unrealistic designs are a result of what was believed at the time rather than being actual dinosaurs. especially when you connect this to how he saw dinosaurs as an unintelligent species of monsters with his whole weird respect morality thing he had going.
I think it makes more sense that diegos ability to make the guards into lamps is an entirely new ability to make fossilized dinosaurs since its such a departure from his other ability
we know stand abilties evolve and that seems to be a constant between universes and maybe having control over the dino virus allowed to make it his own stand and allowed growth
I thought that too. They become very rock like so when i read the chapter i figured Diego could just fossilize his dinosaurs.
This man is reason enough to create and legalize a degree in JoJology
The male equivalent to feminist theory and just as useless
-Are you sure you read the manga?
-no, I've never read the manga.
💀
The only real Araki forgot moment i can think of is when he almost named a stand Earth Wind and Fire in part 6, but he remembered and it was fixed. Other than that most of the "Forgot" moments are just fans who didn't read or just didn't understand moments.
Also the Zeppeli family inconsistency, William Zeppeli said he didn't have descendants but then in Part 2 there's Caesar, and he apologized
@@Whitesnake273 he had none that he knew of but he happened to like hookers (wink)
@@Whitesnake273 Unless he's one of those guy who knock up women and never bother to check them afterward.
@@owo4288 Nah he's not one of those
what about the multiple timeline inconsistencies?
I swear it's possible that Jotaro forced Josuke to buy the ocean property for "marine research".
I’m gonna be obsessed with the fact that Diego just had the ability to turn people into lamps
Dino-lamps*
@@cotyfigue9810lamp-dinos*
"people into lamps"? Are you sure you understood right??
@@crystalalumina those men are lamps. Diego did it. Diego can turn people into lamps
@@crystalalumina he turned them into dinosaurs that are shaped like lamps
I would really like an explanation on how the heck Kira combined Killer Queen with Stray Cat by Opening Killer Queen's stomach (At the End of Part 4). As far as I know it was never elaborated upon and just... kinda happened.
Also since Killer Queen is a normal stand whilst Stray Cat is a bound stand, would the fusion of the two just appear as a floating Stray Cat to non-stand users?
Not only that, but if I’m remembering correctly, and granted, I might not be, but Killer Queen had Stray Cat in his stomach when he was summoned. Where was Stray before that? Just off panel, waiting to be picked up by KQ?
I'd actually like a better explanation for that as well. I mean, I would imagine that someone who is very in touch with their Stand could, in fact, alter it...but to combine it with another Stand unrelated to the user? That's what's stumping me
This doesnt really need explaining. Killer queen has a compartment in its torso, so kira just sort of put the cat in there for convenience
@@tylercoon1791hayato brought him along originally attack kira
The attack failed but once he encountered josuke he used that opportunity to get a hold on stray cat
I hope Araki gets around showing us whether josuke was able to cure Holly-san
Can't wait to see how bizarre Part 9's Araki Forgot topics will be
Imagine these bruh's confusion when Rohan showed up in Part 9.
8:10 Hol horse apparently saved a bunch of the women from dio in CDDH as well.
Common Hol Horse W
@@evauwu5190Hol Horse feminist confirmed
It’s a non-canon story like Purple Haze feedback
@@GalaxyCharizard83either way Hol Horse is badass
@@GalaxyCharizard83 And? just because its not by the oriignal authour doesnt automatically make it bad or invalid.
It feels like people are making up Araki Forgors so the Hamon Beat makes more videos
Fair enough
Shout out to Natascha, gotta be one of my favorite jojo characters
One huge CRUCIAL detail was never addressed in Part 6. Jolyne's lipstick.
She's worn it the entirety of the part, and it seems to be heavily resistant to everything! Perspiration, water, even the time effects of Made In Heaven don't deteriorate it! Araki never made mention of the brand and specific shade of lipstick! How dare he!
Plot twist: That's just what Jolyne's lips look like. It wouldn't be far fetched considering how deformed part 6 characters are overall.
That's Stone Free's substand. Coral Blue #5
I love seeing the thumbnail and trying to imagine what people say Araki has forgotten about
Jojo fans explaining why Araki not mention something or someone for 1 second means he completely forgot about them and is a plothole.
And then they completely ignore when it gets resolved.
About the Higashitaka in TSKR, there is also the fact that Higashitaka is a common japanese surname, which doesn't mean they're related to Josuke and Tomoko.
Given that it's fictional media, the likelihood that it's just some unrelated Higashikata family is extremely unlikely, especially in the same small town. As someone else pointed out, Tomoko spent a few days with family members after her father died, meaning they definitely have other relatives in the area.
Extremely unlikely, because if so then Hayato wouldn't be able to find the Higashitaka number so easily to call Josuke
Currently on CH71 for JoJolion, cant wait for Araki forgot Part 9. Thanks for the effort you put into these, i always enjoy every minute of it and how insane some of the ''plotholes'' are given by fans.
My interpretation of Dio weakness was always on the spiritual level like Jonathan being so righteous that stuff like the distress signal became possible.
My interpretation is that Jonathan's body is still, fundamentally, Jonathan's, so Dio breathing at all is creating just enough Hamon to make taking over the body nearly impossible. By absorbing Joseph's blood, he ensures that he has the right blood type to keep the body alive but also not being Jonathan's blood, so his body can't store the Hamon anymore.
you really owe everything to that panel of Avdol talking about how he and the Joestars received their Stands, you've used it to clear up so much misinformation about part 3
19:55 you must've been resisting the urge to say "my brother in christ- humans have TWO ARMS"
22:33 and Don't Forget the Money that Josuke won in the "Harvest" Arc
That wasn't really harbor buying money, more like designer clothes money, especially when split 3 ways
5:51 araki knows very well what he is doing
I saw this upload and put it in the background as I started making food.
After finishing my meal, I only then realised that it was a whopping 30 minutes.
I tell you, time flies when listening to these! Great stuff!
18:36
"no, ive never read the manga."
WHAT EXACTLY, PRAY TELL, *HAVE* YOU DONE, THEN??? IT'S NOT LIKE PART 7 HAS AN ANIME OUT YET.
(Not that that would even excuse this)
Why caption debunking araki forgot when you can caption “jojo fans under jail house lock”
damn natascha is the absolute best character in vento oreo
I like to think of Diego's power as literal with the Stand name. He makes 'scary monsters' that look like dinosaurs most of the time.
13:40 Some people read JoJo just like how Cinema Sins watches movies
"since her body is filled with rocks"
Caught me off guard there the way you said it so casually, I accidentally spit my cigarette out lol.
Aside topic. Idk if you talked about this in the past, but i keep seeing people say that boingo’s stand tohth predicted jotaro’s deaths in part 4 and 6 however recently I watched part 3 and it was explicitly stated that tohth only predicts things in the near future. And the prediction that ‘jotaro’ gets blown up by a bomb already came to fruition when oingo disguised as jotaro got blown up
@17:31 Another example, when Diego steals the uniform that he uses in that scene, he transforms and fuses the guard's corpse into the roots of a tree and change its color to hide it.
this is probably my favorite series on the channel. cant wait for part 9's vid, even though that's definitely a loong way away
24:26 lmao I actually forgot Joshu actually calls him a fucktard 🤣🤣
He doesn’t. That was an embellishment added by whoever wrote that particular translation of JJL
@@J0J0Reference Yeah I know, but it's still funny
For ghost intercating with stands question
You can easily give the example of cheap tricks
with the crusaders deciding to go to egypt theres also the matter of them not knowing if dio moved from there, even after they started their journey joseph used hermit purple multiple times to make sure dio was still in egypt
the rohan thing was just un fucking real
21:17
Josuke Higashikata could be that rich as the whole reason jotaro went to Morioh in the first place was to inform Josuke that he is going to inherit 1/3 of Joseph's fortune he only stays because of the stand arrow lead that he found out about from Angelo.
And Joseph's fortune we see in part 3 allowed him to buy 4 plane tickets last minute, charter a ship and crew, buy a luxury car to trade for camels, purchase a biplane, a big ass yellow submarine and pay for all the accommodations and supplies they needed across the 30 days without any worry about running out or his wife finding out while she had at least 1 shopping spree and bought her own last minute ticket to Japan from New York. And Josuke inherited 1/3 of that fortune after Joseph passed away.
A lot of that was the Speedwagon Foundation's help, wasn't it?
@@maxsh3623which speedwagon has dedicated most if not all of the foundation's resources towards the joestars for their use
Didn’t Josue reject the fortune though?
Josuke at the time rejected the fortune... But that was 10 years prior, a lot of things can happen in 10 years. You're mentally not the same person you were 10 years ago compared to today. Also he's Joseph's son, im sure he found out a good way to make money on his own.
@@maxsh3623 looking through it the only things that were said to be help from the Speedwagon foundation were the ship captain that was killed by the dark blue moon user and information and I didn't mention anything that they especially did like the buggy and supplies they got when they first got to Egypt.
Although I don't have a official translation of the manga so I could be wrong with some stuff.
I like to think that Jotaro gave them the money to help protect the sea life.
I love these videos so much
not the freaking Natasha
I love the idea of a video on Araki's various editor notes. Those are hilarious. A few of my favourites are: "There's a man on my street who sneezes and sounds like a kitty cat. I don't get it?" And: "I wanted to buy something I'd never forget, so I bought a very expensive umbrella. It was a mistake, though, because I lost it." And: "Crows stole my hat once. They gave it back, though."
The fucking crows killed me 💀
And his tomato plant died after a couple of updates that he was growing one
I always liked to think Josuke actually bought that plot of land just to show off to Rohan and piss him off, and was immediately humbled when Rohan told him he sold his house to buy the mountains mentioned in the mutsukabe hill chapter
LETS GO NEW VIDEO I LOVE YOU HAMMOND BEAT
so technically a ghost could fight a stand user? (now i can only imagine reimi doing a ora ora clash with jotaro lmao)
Hamon Beat's stand: Reading the fucking manga
DiU questions:
Araki forgot that Kira had several broken bones after his first beatdown with Jotaro- "I think one of my ribs punctured my lung," Kira says to Josuke. Apparently even in that damaged state he can outrun the Duwang gang with a ~10 second headstart? Even with Star Platinum punching his legs too?
And what happened to his broken bones and wounds when he turns into Kosaku? Does his body just magically heal before sunset? Crazy Diamond "fixing" Kira's hand causes it to magically regenerate his body too?
Why does Kira give verbal orders to Sheer Heart Attack to "protect me" and "cover my escape" when its an automatic stand?
The manga also has Hayato saying Bites The Dust will "kill anyone else who knows Kira's identity" when Kira is about to reset the loop with the nurse. If that's true, why didn't BTD kill Kira's dad during the first reset? Is his dad immune, even though stands can interact with ghosts?
Lastly,
What were the Duwang gang planning to do with Kira once they caught him? Kill him? If they wanted to kill him, then Jotaro would've done that with the last ora barrage, but Kira was still alive.
Thank you for reading and considering.
He said that His ribs punctured His lungs so that josuke heals him fast
I love these Debunking Araki Forgot videos. People seem to find problems that don't exist. Most of the time, it's something I never would have considered, but would stuggle to deconstruct. You address all of them perfectly.
Araki such a genius, so it makes all his fans look like idiots. or maybe they just are lol
considering how many people like part 6 id say they are 💀
@@cryptidcloud it's a decent part though?
They are
@@cryptidcloudit's literally the best part???
@@cryptidcloudits one of the best??
The Rohan dying part was extremely hilarious
You think this is excessive until you remember the absolute with Jojo fans, most can’t read
I feel that. I read the second half of part 6 (when the anime was airing) and part 7, but it takes so much mental energy. I pretty much gave up on trying to read part 8. It's kinda unfortunate the anime introduces a lot of plot holes and leaves some points out.
@@Jake28 It’s most likely for the sake of time and most people won’t go nuts over some smaller details. I guess the best thing is to go “If it’s off in the Anime, maybe the Manga explains it in more depth”
@@Predator20357 Honestly yeah, I think that's a good way to go about watching the anime.
@@Jake28wtf the manga is easy to read
@@popcultureoverdosed evidently it isn't because so many people get stuff wrong (see: previous episodes)
My favourite Araki's notes are "The tomato saga" during Stone Ocean release
why do people think araki forgot anything?, he went all the way to america to write part 6 he studied everything about anything.
He actually did forget some things but there's VERY few of them, Hamon Beat has a video about them
@@evauwu5190 yes he did forget some things but they are really teeny tiny things
@@iWatchVids4myselfthe tiny horses are definitely very important to the story so idk what you talking about
@@averonisgaming9023 i was saying the mistakes he made were very small bruh have you not heard of the word teeny, also what horses?
teeny and tiny mean the same thing but you said tiny horses not teeny horses so yeah
@@iWatchVids4myself the joke is that one of the actual araki forgots was during the start of the steelball run (the race not the story), there were some minature horses that did a few laps around a pole to kick off the race as a celebration but was mever explained or brought up again
I feel like removing/inserting discs could be explanded further upon. People may think that Emporion couldn't insert discs and had Pucci do that because that is the Whitesnake's ability. So you should probably also explain that Emporio couldn't insert the disc because he was not fated to do so, and Pucci was the only one exempt from fate.
THIS Emporio didn't need White Snake specifically, he just needed someone who could push in the disk for him.
I really like your intro. Because I have seen way too many one's that are just anime clips.
why didn't Jotaro use Star Finger to save his marriage
16:57 I know that Araki has come out and said personally that Part 7 has no direct connection to Parts 1-6, but I don't think that Diego's use of Scary Monsters disproves anything. I think that, on the meta level, Araki might have intended the following reading: By being infected with Scary Monsters and keeping it via Corpse Part, Diego is actually *prevented* from developing the World.
It's implied at the end of Part 6 that DIO the Vampire was completely erased from the timeline due to Pucci's failure, giving the Joestars a happy ending in future timelines. I think that, multiple Big Bangs and Universal Heat Deaths after the Irene universe, the Joestars became prone to tragedy again (especially the Higashikata Family Curse in Part 8). However, Dio was still prevented from becoming a significant threat. Diego's acquisition of Scary Monsters is the universe working to keep him from developing his natural, broken stand, the World.
That's a reasonable in-universe explanation for the meta explanation that Araki wanted to kind of bait-and-switch us with Diego as an anti-villain, imo
The question about how Gyro knows what pizza is does raise an interesting point, though: while Gyro is Italian and therefore knows about pizza, Johnny is American, so that part of the song would have been complete gibberish to him.
Johnny lived for a time in England and is an educated rich kid, he would know.
@@Hamon_BeatThat makes sense.
@@Hamon_Beat This is the most likely answer, but I also kind of like the idea that it was gibberish to him, but Johnny didn't say anything because he was just agreeing with all of Gyro's jokes and whimsical bouts regardless of if they made sense to him.
Debunking Araki Forgot will seemingly never end, and I am both happy to keep seeing this content but feel bad for Hamon Beat cause there will forever be confusion.
Don't mess with us jojo fans. (We can't read)
I love that i havent read jojo or had anything to do with it for years and i just randomly come back to this channel