Did Zeke DENY being Quincy's father? | Love & Basketball Breakdown Part 4
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Massive side note: Dennis Haysbert (Zeke) is a great actor, BUT every line he delivers I'm half expecting him to end it with "Are you in good hands?" Lol
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Friends. This goes along with my theory that Quincy's mom tried to trap for love and not necessarily for money. I really got the feeling that she felt hurt and betrayed in that scene. And this is just me, but she definitely shouldn't have shown those pictures to him. She busted his "my dad is my hero" bubble in the worst way. 😢
I agree, she didn't have to do that and I never understood the way Quincy pushed his daddy away. He deserved the divorce I guess because he didn't seem like he missed her but he loved his son and tried his best to lookout for him.
Friends. I think you both hit the nail on the head about how toxicity is perceived in my generation. Im 23 and I think one of the many problems as to why people have such unrealistic ideas as to what an unhealthy relationship is due to them constantly being bombarded with people who have opinions on marriage and relationships but truthfully experienced either of those things. You don’t know how many times I’ve seen podcasts discussing marriage but not a single person on the panel has ever been married. You have people talking about what it means to have a successful relationship but never actually had one themselves. I think people on social media have degraded the institution of marriage by constantly critiquing it without having any experience in it.
Amen! I have seen these relationship shows too, and am surprised by how many people follow these experts.
Just wanna say as a 27 year old, this has to be one of my fav soundtracks! I always love a movie with a bumping New Jack Swing Neo Soul vibe!!! Also... Monica will always be my kind of girl!!! I love the tomboys!!!
The music is amazing!
Right? I like this era and I’m like 24. The club must’ve been funny asl
I would’ve showed him the proof too he’s grown he should know his Dad has an outside child
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Being in your 40s is still young 😊 you still got your groove at that age!
I don't know. Stella was 40 when she needed to get her groove back 😂
Quincy did not dog her out before college. But her mom would always say she needs to have her hair done and wear a dress to get a boy. And the only time she got Quincy‘s attention was when she put on a dress and had her hair pressed. And had another man on her arm. when they were kids and when they were in high school. There’s a reason why that is. If she was the one he truly wanted all along why would it take a tight dress and another man giving her attention to get his attention.
She had his attention the whole time. He only acted on it once he saw her dressed up.
@@HeitCheri you’re right. I think the movie tried to make the correlation between what her mother would tell her about looking presentable and The fact that Q decided to pursue her once she was dressed up. It gives the impression that she had to change herself to get the man. Just thinking out loud, if she would’ve never showed up to the dance would he have ever pursued her? Or would they have just left off to college and continued their life separately?
@@Mscarter952when she was crying after losing the game. Quincy was literally fighting back tears. Also, before he saw her in the dress (when they were kids). He was admiring her from his room while she was getting her hair done 😂 he always liked her..
I wouldn't say their love is Toxic,but it's messy..which is real life sometimes. The new generation is used to seeing a power dynamic of the celebs..where these days they see the Woman as the more popular and 'wealthy' of the couple..The ending was groundbreaking..where Monica ends up as a pro,not Quincy..but Quincy is sitting there supporting.
Thats a shame! 🤣Dennis Haysbert was a cheater in Waiting to Exhale, and he's a cheater in Love in Basketball.
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😆 So you know when he shows up in a movie what's about to go down! 😆
@@HeitCheri Yep😅 HE'S A ROLLING STONE🤣🤣
I don't think what the coach did was toxic I think that's how coaches act (not all) but most
I knew we tend to overuse and water down meanings, but you really got me thinking when you guys talked about lacking hope and seeing any adversity as toxic, that will definitely sit with me for a bit
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When you’re the newbie
That’s how it is ( all my life since I was a military brat)
No matter if you on a bball team, new school or transitioning to new job.
You don’t have to prove anything but some people will make you feel like it. People love to size you up, doubt your abilities and all but it’s important to know you’re worthy of your position in life.
I don’t think Coach was toxic
Monica’s high school coach rewarded poor behavior & her college coach was breaking those bad habits. Also taught her it’s about the whole team not just You.
It didn’t seem weird to me when Monica asked what we playing for watching I was younger. When I played basketball in high school I often found myself playing basketball games for $5, a bottle of Gatorade, or movie picking rights. It would’ve made more sense in the movie if they established that they played basketball games in exchange for random things in high school.
Gucci & Gold ✨🤣😆 too funny
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when ppl describe this movie as toxic, it’s so bothersome bc it implies that any sort of adversity or conflict is deemed toxic when that’s just regular relationships conflict, Monica and Quincy’s relationship was fine up until Quincy found out about his dad, he’s literally traumatized, so he’s projecting his trauma onto his relationship with Monica and subsequently sabotaging his own relationship, Monica tries to help him, he continues to crash out and then they break up, that’s not toxic, that’s just a bad break up, and most ppl experience that, toxicity implies they’re going back and forth trying to hurt the other, as you can see, they broke up and stopped talking to each other, idk I just don’t like when ppl misappropriate terminology where it’s not applicable bc they’ve never seen a typical couple have conflict and just breakup, I think ppl are being grossly uncharitable to the film bc it depicted a realistic nuanced relationship and it didn’t lean heavily on either spectrum to come to definitive conclusions about the story
I really feel you on this. People don't have a realistic view of what ANY long-term relationship looks like... Romantic or otherwise. That's why they stay disappointed and turning their backs on people at the first sign of challenge.
Love the content!!! Friends
I view Toxic as causing someone harm , Discomfort, unhappiness or even anguish. I view toxic having different levels. Someone always yelling in public or private may be viewed as a toxic trait and someone who can never take accountability may also be a form.
I agree the words Toxic , Gaslighting and Narcissistic have been used so repetitively the meanings start to diminish. 😅 its tough
Thanks so much for your kind words😊 Also, don't get me started on how folks ned to throw away the words gaslighting and narcissist too! 😂😂😂
Love you 2. Pt.1,2, &3 were Dope 🔥🔥.
Loved You Guys Breakdown of This Classic. Miss the Late 90's/00's 😞.
My Part was in the Room playing Strip Basketball 🏀 and Guy's "I Like" start Playing. Dope Track til this Day.
Keep it up you two. Ironically, Alfre Woodard Played Sanaa Lathan's Mother 3 Times:
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Something New
Tyler Perry's:"The Family That Prays Together"
Quincy's Mama Was playing Some Marvin Gaye who he mentioned btw
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Friends! Love this series. This was one of my favorite movies growing up, even though I shouldn’t been watching this at the age of eight lol. And yes Quincy and those 2 girls was definitely flirting 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! And yes, Quincy was flirting back... just doing the most and acting like he was giving good customer service 😂😂😂
The Dawg'N of Monica comes in where She told Him ' No' for once in a Long Time.. when he asked her to Stay passed Curfew.
Friends. If this coach is considered toxic, is coach Carter toxic too?
These are things we should discuss for real. IDK that I'd call these coaches toxic, but people should be consistent in their logic about such thing IMO.
@@HeitCheri I wouldn't consider them toxic either. I played girls soccer in University and I liked it when my coach was tough me especially when I had bad games so that I could get better
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What Quincy said was definitely flirtatious. She said “we’kk be watching” and he said “hope so”… cmon
Friends! I love the long breakdowns lol
❤️❤️❤️ I love them too! We literally JUST finished recording this series--it's 7 videos in total for the breakdown. We had lots to say 😁 Thanks for hanging with us!
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Friends. New Jack Swing!!!!!!!
Friends. Those women were totally flirting and he flirted back! I believe they didn’t care about flirting in front of her because of how she looked. Much like her mom did her lol But yeeeeah I felt some of you guys point but I still do not see this movie as a love story lol I hate working at night because I have to finish my comment on my “lunch break” at 10😂😂😂😂
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"Are You My Friiieenndd.. are we locked in !.. now steppp this way.. steppp this way.. now steppp this way.. steppp this way !" 🤸🏿♀️
From my perspective I took Quincy parents divorcing as him actually getting another woman pregnant she stayed with him tht long n he was cheating so what’s the difference now and Quincy don’t even bring him up after the situation as if he don’t exist so I feel he was guilty of fathering another child outside his marriage Thts what killed they family not the cheating
Nice Nasty-Cheri.😂😂
Or like Michele said,"Nicety".
😂😂😂 I was thinking about that song during that part of the conversation!
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Toxic and criminal are not the same..lol tf?😂
A person with a pattern of not paying you back after they've borrowed money is toxic. Exual assault is a crime! What kind of analogy was that?
Identifying toxic behavior is not "detrimental" to society lol. People have their own opinions and we can deal with toxicity according to our subjective values and boundaries
The point being made here is that damn near EVERYTHING is being labeled as "toxic" at this point. Actually, people really like to use that word to label everything from low-level people who offend folks to ACTUAL CRIMES.
Nobody's saying that individuals cannot apply their own labels as they see fit (I hate that you tried to cobble that conclusion together and imply that's what we were saying), but extremely broad definitions muddy the waters. At this point, if someone labels something as "toxic" the only thing it really communicates is that the speaker didn't like it, because folks call nearly everything toxic at this point.
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Y'all made the analogy not me😂
I was simply explaining the point, since you seemed to have missed it.... still missing it. Nevertheless, hope you're having a wonderful Friday! 😊
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The only thing that was done simply was me simply quoting what you said. The point is you were being hyperbolic and are now (ironically) super sensitive to criticism
@trent_king high-key I think you just can't read brother
He locked the door lol look closely
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Its not Toxic for Coach to have her hold the 'Pretty Finger's pose 😂.. it's not different than if she'd given her Laps or Push ups, etc for the same thing.. That pose compromised her purpose for being in the game.. And Laps, Push ups, Suicides, etc(& holding that pose).. are all activities that correlates with strength building & conditioning to play in the first place.. So It's Not Toxic..
Plus Coach knows that Monica was a second pick, and could have very well been doing extra in efforts to train her up to where she needed to be, to have been picked First. And Therefore keep up with All thee other girls..
I also notice a thing here. Where it's like.. Monica may have shrunk herself a bit.. Cuz in highschool they always told her she was too hard.. But for College she wasn't Hard enough 🤔.. 😭😭. Po'Monica.
Tho its not tapped into a whole lot.. from my experience of doin Sports a bit in High school.. Some Coaches dont Fancy the girls having Boyfriends and such.. They feel like it makes the girls too soft & off focus.. amongst the risk of Pregnancy.. while The Boys are often praised for Having Girlfriends & groupies, etc.. and Males don't get pregnant.. So another reason Coach & the girls could have some extra dip on their chip with Monica is cuz she has a Boyfriend and errbody knows it cuz they are very public about it.. on top of him being a Ball Player himself and How Competive athletic Romance can be cuz Alot of Male Athletes Will Sabotage their Athletic GFs progess/careers by trynna lock em down with Kids and juss doin a number of things to ruin their morale.. and accompany that with the fact that the team had already lost a Player due to her getting Pregnant 🤡😭
Well women can Have internalized misogyny from misogyny that exist externally.. and Then women can also turn that on each other.. Like Gay Ppl who spew homophobia at each other..
So its like. The feeling and perspective of thee unfair experience can be valid and the response to it can be counterproductive as it concerns achieving a specific Goal..
So the girls on her team, may feel like all they want is to be Hot & The Best in college cuz they themselves limit themselves to the conditions that are current at the time.. But they see Monica has Bigger goals that they dont believe in/that remind them of their limitations & they spew self hate/etc on her.. Monica can either let that defeat her and Assimilate to it and Fit in.. Or she can Commit to being her Unique Self & Press Fwd and be the blueprint to prove Errbody wrong. . Its her "How Bad Do You Want It" moments.
I saw this on Facebook today and had to share it here since I can't send you guys the screenshot lol "Now that we grown can we admit that Q only cared for her as a friend, meanwhile she was in love with him as a lover, he f***** cause she let him, he never once in the movie said he loved her, EVEN after she revealed she was in love with him since he scarred her face as a little
Girl 😂 Q was an entitled narcissist 😂😂 poor Monica tried to find her femininity in Q, if The character portrayed by Tyra banks hadn’t left Q when he got injured he wouldn’t have settled for miss hoop dreams 😂😂 this wasn’t a love story, this lady had a marriage and child with a man who was asked to play for his heart and he was Dunkin on her like he was Lebron 😂😂😂 ladies never be this desperate for love. Love is a natural occurrence u can’t manipulate that ish through a game of basketball 🏀 😂😂😂 it’s either there or it’s not….NEVER FORCE IT"
Girl I saw this on Facebook recently too! 😂😂😂 I had to just ignore it because I thought it was wayyyy off. The facts of the film aren't even correct as recounted in this post. Tyra Banks' character DIDN'T leave Quincy after he got injured. She was a flight attendant and she was simply away working. The wedding was still two weeks away when Monica challenged him to play for her love. If the facts of the movie aren't solid, how can I agree with the assessment? (talking about them, not you) 😊
Nevertheless, we just wrapped recording of the final scene in the film, and my thoughts on the whole thing are there so I won't spoil it since the videos are dropping soon. Thanks for sharing this because I am always amused by what the online relationship "gurus" have to say about things. ❤️❤️❤️
@@HeitCheri I knew you'd get a laugh because I was like wait what 🤣🤣🤣 can't wait for the next vid!!
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Friends! Not the best representation of black love now that i look back at it. Gets brushed under the rug in a very subtle manner. All the negative things that we call toxicity today
I think Quincy mama knew intuitively but had no valid proof
Friends. Was Sidra telling Monica about the girl who got pregnant necessary?
Nope. That was retaliatory.
@@HeitCheri I thought so.
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