This is such a great scene. It paints the picture of Alonzo's role in the bigger picture - he's just a puppet for the real players. This is a classic movie
It is more complex than just being some player. It is a direct straight criticism to rich white privileged power being misused to the extreme, for personal gains. The only thing that can hit the same level of the immunity bar, is a cop.
@@michaelbull4344 They weren't High Level enough to avoid getting whacked by the Russians. There is a Hierarchy and Deals are usually made on those Levels. Alonzo got Lucky enough they gave him a chance to make up for the Insult by paying.
What I miss the most about the 80s, 90s and early 2000s is a lot of movies like this were "one day/night" movies. Those type of movies were all kinds of crazy shit happens in one day. It be like that sometimes.
@@sookmajoaby that one is probably my favorite "one day" movie. It's like the original "Joker" in my opinion. A hard working guy who society just ate up and abused, and he just couldn't handle it anymore. That ending is fucked... A briefcase, a lunch, and a man on the edge Each step he's closer to losing his head Is someone in heaven? Are they looking down? Nothing is fair, you look around Falling down Falling down Falling down!!!🤘🤘🤘 One of my fave Iron Maiden songs too btw!
I love the layers of contrast here. You got Jake as a rookie cop, dressed in plain clothing. Alonzo as a squad leader, dressed in a leather jacket with a gold chain- like a glorified street thug. And then you got the big fishes- an FBI captain, DA, and a high profile detective, all dressed in fine suits. Jake is to Alonzo as Alonzo is to these guys.
Good comment and yeah A lot of detectives don’t wear suits and ties. I know detectives from my gym and they wear very causal clothing on the job, t shirt and jeans, leather jacket, bomber jacket and hell one of them has visible hand and neck tattoos.
@@Jackholiday1025 well it is nature of their business on the other hand. They shouldn’t be so attention seeking if they are on the field. You can’t not investigate a drug business in the style of agent Smith.
I always loved that there was a backstory about Alonzo that hung over his head. Pretty cool that he was seemingly so invincible, but he had a huge mark on his back
This is an underrated comment. And it's that mark on his back that pretty much guides all of his decisions throughout the film. It also still ends up leading to his violent demise.
This scene doesn't seem like much at first. But on a second watch of the movie I realized all these guys were corrupt and at the highest positions on the force.
There's some truth. DEA ALWAYS knows how much coke gets used in America. They're the MAIN dealer. Remember Panama's Manuel Noriega? Invading Panama was illegal. Why did America invade Panama and illegally arrest Noriega? He wanted a bigger payoff. DEA thought he got too greedy and had to be taken out. Noriega was denied a decent trial and nobody in any news media, local or foreign, was allowed to hear his side of the story. That's a violation of international human rights.
I love how you can tell that Alonzo secretly hates the system even tho he's basically an agent in the matrix who works for the system. One of Denzel's most interesting and layered characters imo
Wtf are you talking about? Alonzo loves it. And stfu with that Matrix shit, absolutely bad analogy that makes no sense. Just delete your comment. It gives me secondhand embarrassment
He probably did it cause it's best for him to demand respect in the streets of LA. Being a gang banger can only get you so far till you end up dead or in prison. Being a detective will get you alot of power. That power went over Alonzo's head
Alonso wasn't corrupt it's just how it is in his position and the only reason why they allowed Alonso to do it was cuz they cared about him and didn't want him dead for something stupid he did and realize the Russian was connected to the russian mafia and they were helping him to get the 1 million he needed to pay them off and roger deserved what he got for selling drugs to kids for so many years like Alonzo said to Jake this chess not checkers and in alonzos position for those people to trust him you have to dirt on you thts how he was so close to roger acted as his friend and all tht and then boom when u have your shot to kill him and take everything he had to help himself out you do it
Notice how these guys use the word "prick" so Alonzo also adopts the usage of the word "prick" as well. That's because Alonzo is making an effort to change his vernacular and behavior around these guys to fit in. It shows how Alonzo is hyper-conscious of every social setting he inhabits. He even introduces Jake to them by using their full names, which is never how he introduces any other characters in the movie, showing that Alonzo genuinely tries to earn their respect. Not to mention every time Alonzo laughs, he looks at the wisemen around him to see if they're laughing. And when he calls Landers a "sharp gal" and the other wisemen burst out laughing, you can hear Alonzo say "no?" revealing that the joke was accidental, and that these guys are on a different league. Also, every time Alonzo drinks an alcoholic beverage, it's supposed to be a visual queue that we are learning more about Alonzo, and another side of him is being revealed. When he is in Roger's house, he drinks liquor, because we are seeing his friendly side as he banters with Roger, and conceals his intentions to betray Roger later. When he's driving the Monte Carlo, he drinks beer, because we are seeing his manipulative side as he breaks through Jake's morals and attempts to persuade him that sometimes breaking the rules is the right thing to do. In this scene, he drinks wine, because we are seeing his elitist side as he tries to convince these horsemen that he's too good at his job to die at the hands of the Russian mafia, and that his sins will never catch up to him. Also, the line at 2:49 is significant: "give him credit: he worked the system; he deserves his freedom." It basically reveals Alonzo's true colors, outlining and reestablishing the antagonistic worldview that Jake will eventually have to confront in the climax of the movie. He believes defying the rules of the system is not wrong if you can get away with it. And Jake laughing at the story shows that throughout the day, Alonzo has slowly taken apart and altered Jake's moral code, and even altered the mentality of the audience. We're hearing a story about a criminal walking free in the streets, who, based on the fact that he avoided his punishment and showed little to no remorse, we can predict will likely become a repeat offender. But because, like Jake, you've been trained to admire Alonzo throughout the movie, you can't help yourself but laugh along with him about the situation. It's also funny how, right after that line at 2:49, when Doug Rosselli challenges what Alonzo says, Alonzo backtracks, because Alonzo knows that he's the subordinate at the table. He realizes that it looks like he's siding with the criminal, and that he's not acting elitist enough to these guys' standards by separating himself from the criminals and vowing to serve street justice to the criminal. Later at 3:39, Alonzo says he'll cash in one of his accounts. That's how he has dehumanized Roger. He sees Roger not as a friend, he views him as an account. We also see Jake sipping wine at 1:28. Although drinking wine is a shared action between Alonzo and Jake, the differing colors of their drinks is symbolic of their differing approaches to fighting crime. Alonzo has corrupted Jake enough by this point in the movie that Jake feels comfortable drinking while he's technically supposed to be on the job, but the color of Jake's wine (white) represents the deep-seeded virtues within him that motivate him as a cop. Jake's moral compass has been far from abandoned. Alonzo's wine (red) represents what motivates him as a cop. While Jake retains a basic level of honesty, purity, and innocence, Alonzo is driven by his passions, impulses, and selfishness. And I haven't even talked about the clothing these characters wear. Mostly because I think the reason why Alonzo wears black throughout the entire movie (except the climax) and Jake wears a white shirt under his dark-colored hoodie is self evident. Although I should point out that Jake's white shirt gets stained with red blood after Alonzo betrays Jake and abandons him with the Sureño gang members who almost shoot him in a bathtub. It's nice symbolism for Jake losing his innocence. And I should also point out that Alonzo wears a white undershirt in the climax because the white represents how pathetically transparent the motivations behind Alonzo's smooth talk are, and we can see what a POS Alonzo truly is. This scene accomplishes so much in such little runtime. It's so rare to see a movie written this tightly. Each scene is so rich with story, but you know what the best part about this movie is? You don't need any special intuition to enjoy this movie. You can enjoy Training Day as a casual viewer who wants to turn their brain off and experience simple escapism, or you can enjoy it as someone like me who neurotically reads way too much into everything. Congratulations for reaching the end of this comment.
I'm a diagnosed malignant narcissist (ASPD+NPD) and Denzel 'performance' is too good to be contrived; sometimes actors lift the curtain (Ralph Fiennes in Sch List another example) ...your appreciation for nuance and subtlety is impressive and just wanted to say that I enjoyed your comment and it resonated personally.
You said thank you for reading the whole comment as if you were trolling. Lol, the original script writers would have to salute your breakdown if they read it. If you don't have a youtube channel, start one! 1000s will subscribe
I finally understand what the peanut butter story is about. It's about a guy who thinks he is untouchable, he has been out smarting the system but he doesn't realize that he still has to live with the people that are a part of the system.
@@MrBraddles3128 stories in movies aren’t just funny stories, they’re subtle storytelling devices within the greater story. So calm down, don’t be a prick, and appreciate that this guy appreciates the movie and understands it better than you do
@@ThothTheAtlanteanK What are you talking about, dude? Antoine Fuqua has been directing movies every year since Training Day in 2001. He made Brooklyn's Finest in 2009, Olympus had Fallen in 2013, The Equalizer in 2014, The Magnificent Seven in 2016, The Equalizer 2 in 2018, Infinite in 2021, and The Guilty in 2021. All of them are about ex-cops or law enforcement badass dudes shooting people. Stop pretending there's a problem.
@@User-ei7eo My response was to the other commenter's quip on "thank hollyweird and feminism". Whether Fuqua's other movies are average or not, they were made in the spirit and style of Training Day. Feminism didn't force them to be average.
I like to watch him and he's good, no doubt, but he's a one trick pony. There are much better actors out there with a much wider range, like Gary Oldman or Daniel Day Lewis. Even Christian Bale can play more characters than Denzel.
Yep. He couldn't hold it in any longer. Properly seen the same pattern over the years especially as a superior. He looked genuinely worried for Alonzo's safety and the ability to provide him with extra cash and favors.
I thought the same. Great cinematography. Mauro Fiore is actually kinda underrated as a cinematographer despite winning an Oscar for Avatar (which was more for the overall "groundbreaking 3D visuals") - Training day, The Island, Real Steel, Magnificent Seven are all really well shot movies.
What’s scary is how much of a threat the Russians were to seasoned cops. Like, I thought cops were untouchable and to kill a detective would have the whole force on your ass. This is making it seem like even the cops can’t do sht against the Russian mob, which is terrifying.
That’s one of the many reasons Denzel got an Oscar for this. His body language instantly changes in the presence of the Wisemen, compared to the rest of this film.
AZK91 I agree. People have this odd narrative they pretends going on here. “Alonzos soooo nervous here.”. You mean when he reaches over and grabs their wine and pours a glass without asking? Quit pretending he’s shaking in his boots because you want to pretend you’re some body language expert.
@@KobaAM I never felt he was scared but I felt he was the Enforcer on the Streets and they were the Enforcers in the Offices so it's like they were equal cause I'm sure if they turned their backs on him he would straight up tell them You forget I do the work on the streets we both need each other
Alonso laughs as a way to fit in here. He doesn't know the punchline, unlike the other wisemen. Many times this occurs in social situations. This whole movie is a statement of how people behave and change with different people under different social circumstances in order to benefit themselves.
Well shot scene. You can feel the atmosphere there.... he's sitting at the table with the big dogs, you can sense the tension in the air, and dialogue and interchanges definitely get that across
This is one of those films. The more you watch it, the more you appreciate it for what it is. They established the players, built the foundations of a solid plot and built upon that with scenes that sucked you in. All within the span of a 24 hour day. It wasnt a perfect movie, but a damn good one with a masterfully acted cast.
Oh yeah, my favorite moment from him in this scene! I don't remember seeing any other movie where a character made this very specific eye shifting thing. Anxious as hell!
@@IronMan-tk8uc maybe the guy who played General Burgdorf in Downfall. When Hitler is screaming at his generals he shifts his eyes in such an intense manner. It really adds to the tension of arguing with a furious dictator on the verge of a complete mental breakdown.
@@mentlinc he said that because the suspect that he worked so hard to put away got a light deal on his sentence (probably only treatment at a low security level psychiatric clinic vs. actual prison time) because of him basically showing (pretending) to the court that he was crazy with the peanut butter ruse. Doug is disgruntled and defeated over how the system so easily worked in the suspect’s favor that he wants to kill him himself.
@@mentlinc it foreshadows what the Russians did to Alonzo at the end of the film. He tried to finesse his way across killing a Russian mafia boss/or high ranking member thinking he can live when in reality someone of power is going to kill him
It's also a commentary that once you pass a certain line legally or morally (like Alonzo did), the only price you pay is with your life because you have lost the legal or moral pre-requisites to the protection of both. Thus Alonzo screaming impotently that he's the law when the people in a neighbourhood ignore him.
This is basically the Roger scene. When he tells the story about the snail and answers his phone saying It's your mess you clean it up. He's basically telling Alonzo he's not helping him out of this.
My Dad and some Vets I know, always referred to mental hospital as the "Puzzle-Factory". This was the first time I ever heard anyone else use the term. Cracked me up.
If the government is corrupt.... why is the "rabbit hole" of the police force considered deep? Do people really believe the idealistic lies about the "government" and "establishment" acting in their best interest? Like really, even now in 2021? LOL
Did anyone notice that the cop telling the story was the narcotics chief detective Mel Bernstein in Scarface Montana: "So long Mel have a great trip". Mel: "Fuck You !"
His name is Harris Yulin, good actor, tends to play a cop or someone in law enforcement quite frequently. Also, a fun fact, he and Denzel were in the movie "The Hurricane."
I always loved how everyone in this scene works. Such beautiful talent all in one scene. Not to mention, it's better during the rewatch: The puppeteers talk to the puppet, who pupeteers the rookie. Such a great work of a film. EDIT): I love this moment at 2:58
I love how (after having seen the movie and knowing the full story that the latinos tell later) you can practically see what happened: Alonzo in the club, drunk, someone (the Russian) bumps into him and spills his drink and he loses it, and beats a the Russian mobster to death in the back, gets manhandled and taken into a back room and beaten, they demand $1 million in a week and throw him out on the street. Great storytelling without actually telling.
I'd say it's that somehow the Russian called him a bitch. Look at how he responds every time it happens. Extremely violent. I've always wondered if he would even have killed Roger if Roger didn't call him "their bitch."
Very subtlety acted scene. The more you look at it, the more you realize these guys are all fine professional actors. - because you d swear they were real cops.
All of the wisemen are like a part of Alanzo’s personality. The funny one, the sympathetic one, the aggressive one, and the killer. “I’m going to do him if I see him on the streets.” Same what Alanzo was doing with alley crackhead. He’s like all four of them combined.
Great scene...excellent choice by Antoine Fuqua to get 3 pros like Tom Berenger, Raymond J. Barry and Harris Yulin to play the wise men...on the DVD commentary Fuqua said he was thrilled these great character actors did the movie.
Antoine brought guys that could bring the type of gravitas that you needed in a scene like that. It takes a certain type of actor to be able to carry that scene up..... You want an actor that can carry that dialogue and carry that scene forward but can share with the other actors in there.
To add to that imagine for argument's sake if you put someone else in Denzel's role and then put Denzel in that meeting as one of the wise men Denzel would overpower every actor in that scene in my opinion.
If you try to imagine Alonzo's backstory. You can see those guys were probably the ones that brought him into corruption like he, and his team was trying to do with Hoytt later. In the beginning of his career you can imagine Alonzi actually trying to do good like Jake was, but unlike him he actaully went with it.
I like how you can notice there's a boss, a manager and a supervisor 😅. The boss and manager are just looking and seeing how the Supervisor handle's this situation. Damn how that relates and feels so much like working at your job.
@@ivervj2923 But "smart" judges like that always have a man on standby to take over. Smart bosses know not to fire a good manager until they have replacement.
The guy telling the peanut butter story establishes himself as the best actor of the three wise men right here 0:38 without even saying anything... When Jake says "Nice to meet you", he just gives him that look "So polite - must be a total beginner in this dirty business".
The way he moves his eyes back and forth. The way he puckers his lips drinking the wine as he's getting scolded.... Denzel nailed this role so damn good. The bar was set pretty high after this one.
Tripleblade 82 Happens everywhere. In Hawaii, cops will let chicken fights slide around the island as long as the house gives them their cut. I’m talking easy 100K+ profit at a chicken derby, not including food vendors who come in, dice games that the house provides, etc. I’ve seen cops literally waiting outside the house for their cut. Not to mention gambling’s rooms as well. This shit is definitely real.
The thing I like about this scene that I know to be true, is that in the real world, the top dog "good guys" (whatever that means) are sitting a few tables down from the top dog "bad guys" at the fine restaurants, and they each acknowledge each other because at those levels, the line you think exists in the sand, doesn't exist. Especially when it comes to money.
He talked them up to jake, but they knew that dude was as good as dead. It was nothing they couldve done to save him. That’s why the initial greeting was “I don’t talk to dead people”. It was a sign to let him know he was in deep shit they couldn’t help him on
Training Day, Book of Eli, The Equalizer, & many...MANY more masterful roles, executed by an acting arts master, Denzel Washington! We may never again see another individual who is so...locked into his/her art like this gentleman is.
Glory, Flight, The Siege, John Q, Courage Under Fire, Crimson Tide, Fallen, The Bone Collector, Malcom X, Man on Fire, Deja Vu, and Inside Man are others aswell.
They totally set Alonzo up here, a good laugh in the beginning but they were backing off to see if Alonzo could really "handle it" , blind as a bat because of his ego
And when they advise him to “hop a jet outta there” they knew he was being followed by the Russians and him doing that would just speed up his execution.
I remember literally almost crying from laughter from this scene. It's funny but not like split my side funny. But with Denzel and Tom Berenger it's easy.
“Judge is female.” It’s interesting they felt that detail is so important to the context of the story. Seems like they don’t think too highly of female authority figures.
Honestly like who would have the foresight to smell an inmate’s finger after the guy put his hand in his ass lmao? men in high positions used to see women as overly emotional in decision making. Women started being eligible to be judge wayy later than they should have. I also think that’s a generational thing. Alonzo called the lady sharp, while the wise men were talking shit about her.
I think its great acting that Harris Yulin, who plays the guy telling the story, laughs along with everyone even though he's mad about it. He can't help but laugh at his own pain with his friends about how terrible his luck is.
I first watched this movie when I was a kid, so it took me a couple years and some clarification from my dad for me to really understand how pivotal this scene was to the movie.
You do realize that this scene is basically a personification of Macbeth's Three Witches. They predict Alonzo's downfall just how Macbeth would be King and fail. You do see that, right?
@@fernandovargasmejia740 He said or not in response to the reaction he got.. I dont know what the original poster is referring too but I doubt its this. This is not a trait of a psychopath
Watched this for the first time earlier this year, and it's the best written and acted movie I've ever seen in my entire life. This is a timeless masterpiece, and deserve a solid 10/10 rating
@@jadezee6316 that’s your opinion. When it came out in 2001, I bought the dvd and watched every day, for a month! One of the best movies of my lifetime, and I’m a 70’s baby.
@@StoneGone hi mate that’s an interesting comment… how come you watched it every day for a month can I ask? was it to pick up on subtle things you might have missed out the first time?
Such an iconic and hillarious scene, and legend of a film. An extremely underrated film that covers such an iconic storyline, with a legendary cast like Denzel Washington, characters, and track too it. Watched it on my birthday today on the 19th of April, and was extremely worth it. I don't want to spoil too much, but its worth every penny, and very intense, action packed, and interesting for those who are interested in watching.
The original Pacific Dining Car in downtown LA. Open 24 hours but also fine dining - I assumed being next to a hospital helped. The baseball steak was my go-to before seeing this movie back in theaters. They knew the area.
If you watch the deleted scenes, one of them is at the end of the film after Alonzo is killed, these 3 show up at Jakes house demanding Rogers money telling Jake that Alonzo missed his appt with the Russians
Great scene, great movie. Need to watch "Training Day" again after something like 22 years. Regards, Michael M. Kamau, Nairobi, Kenya, East Africa, 4th May 2024.
0:11 important to me but maybe not to others, Captain Lou Jacobs actually gets up to shake Jake's hand. The other 2 don't. I was always taught never to shake someone's hand while sitting down if they're standing. But I wonder why the other 2 didn't bother shaking at all. Raymond Berry for the WIN
Denzel Washington is one of those actors who avoids being typecast. He can be the bad guy in a movie like Training Day and the good guy in a movie like The Equalizer. Few actors can pull that off. Can't imagine Harrison Ford being the bad guy in any movie, for example, and he's a great actor.
Ford pulled off What lies beneath pretty well. But i agree Denzel can play good guy bad guy well. Only thing is, alot of those guys still seem similar. He's not a character actor really. Just a natural with charisma. He absolutely killed this and Malcom x though. These were characters. One of my favorite actors so I'm not putting him down
This is such a great scene. It paints the picture of Alonzo's role in the bigger picture - he's just a puppet for the real players. This is a classic movie
The Wise Men are a powerful old white boys' network. No way Alonzo, a tough black street cop, could penetrate it. Even though he wanted to.
But these guys knew not too touch a made mafia man. They know what likes not to cross Alonzo was a hothead the Mexican gang said the same thing.
It is more complex than just being some player. It is a direct straight criticism to rich white privileged power being misused to the extreme, for personal gains. The only thing that can hit the same level of the immunity bar, is a cop.
@@michaelbull4344 They weren't High Level enough to avoid getting whacked by the Russians. There is a Hierarchy and Deals are usually made on those Levels. Alonzo got Lucky enough they gave him a chance to make up for the Insult by paying.
@@thousandyoung They gave Alonzo a chance to pay off because he was a cop. Killing a cop in the US is not like killing a cop in Russia.
What I miss the most about the 80s, 90s and early 2000s is a lot of movies like this were "one day/night" movies. Those type of movies were all kinds of crazy shit happens in one day. It be like that sometimes.
TophDaGreat collateral
Yes or a really intense couple of days. Perfect example “Man on Fire”
They still exist, they're just not as good as they used to be.
'Falling down '
@@sookmajoaby that one is probably my favorite "one day" movie. It's like the original "Joker" in my opinion. A hard working guy who society just ate up and abused, and he just couldn't handle it anymore. That ending is fucked...
A briefcase, a lunch, and a man on the edge
Each step he's closer to losing his head
Is someone in heaven? Are they looking down?
Nothing is fair, you look around
Falling down
Falling down
Falling down!!!🤘🤘🤘
One of my fave Iron Maiden songs too btw!
Officer Jake Hoyt basically got 20 years experience on his first day at the job
🤣🤣🤣
He had the worst day ever
I would love to see a Training Day prequel showing Alonso going from a good cop to a corrupt cop.
and that day he fucked up
There will be one afaik
Great Idea Yo.. i would like to see that
Check out the deleted scenes
If they didn’t do one immediately after this one, they ain’t doing one now 20 years later
Alonzo is basically at Jake's level when sitting with the wise men.
Too right. Good one.
Italian are you Joseph Burtulato??? No surprise, as you're white in the end......
They are Freemasons
@Angelthe original comment obviously went over your head
It's not about his level ...it's the conversation being held & those having it.
Can you imagine how corrupt and evil these three guys are to dwarf Alonzo like this?
LOL well said the truth can be very humorous wen delivered in such simple ways
I love the layers of contrast here. You got Jake as a rookie cop, dressed in plain clothing. Alonzo as a squad leader, dressed in a leather jacket with a gold chain- like a glorified street thug. And then you got the big fishes- an FBI captain, DA, and a high profile detective, all dressed in fine suits. Jake is to Alonzo as Alonzo is to these guys.
Good comment and yeah A lot of detectives don’t wear suits and ties. I know detectives from my gym and they wear very causal clothing on the job, t shirt and jeans, leather jacket, bomber jacket and hell one of them has visible hand and neck tattoos.
@@Jackholiday1025 well it is nature of their business on the other hand. They shouldn’t be so attention seeking if they are on the field. You can’t not investigate a drug business in the style of agent Smith.
How was Alonzo dressed like a “thug” racist
@@ThoughtAbout-vm8sv How is it racist? You saying that thugs can only be black people? Got something to confess, you racist? 🤨📷
@@ThoughtAbout-vm8sv he is. no need to white knight. you are white, aren't you?
I always loved that there was a backstory about Alonzo that hung over his head. Pretty cool that he was seemingly so invincible, but he had a huge mark on his back
This is an underrated comment. And it's that mark on his back that pretty much guides all of his decisions throughout the film. It also still ends up leading to his violent demise.
He's a mark ass bih
I second this comment! Great movie. The only reason the wise men tolerate Alonso is that he has dirt on each of them.
This scene doesn't seem like much at first. But on a second watch of the movie I realized all these guys were corrupt and at the highest positions on the force.
Man I never even noticed that, until you just mentioned it right now tho too!
@@josephblanchard6248 Watch the directors comments. He mentions a lot of things that were missed lol
come on... U knew from the clothes they were fucked up. everythang Funny, until its real Munny
@@MajinErick what are you talking about?
@@sowhat... directors comments.
Why do I have the feeling that these kind of shady deals go on with more frequency than we think
j2times2006 Because you're perceptive.
My thoughts too
Cuz they do .
It's called survival.
There's some truth. DEA ALWAYS knows how much coke gets used in America. They're the MAIN dealer. Remember Panama's Manuel Noriega? Invading Panama was illegal. Why did America invade Panama and illegally arrest Noriega? He wanted a bigger payoff. DEA thought he got too greedy and had to be taken out. Noriega was denied a decent trial and nobody in any news media, local or foreign, was allowed to hear his side of the story. That's a violation of international human rights.
I love how you can tell that Alonzo secretly hates the system even tho he's basically an agent in the matrix who works for the system. One of Denzel's most interesting and layered characters imo
Wtf are you talking about? Alonzo loves it. And stfu with that Matrix shit, absolutely bad analogy that makes no sense. Just delete your comment. It gives me secondhand embarrassment
@@somnuswaltz5586 calm down your hormones honey, you're gonna lose your period
100% right theory. You can see at the beginning how he took a red pill
He probably did it cause it's best for him to demand respect in the streets of LA. Being a gang banger can only get you so far till you end up dead or in prison. Being a detective will get you alot of power. That power went over Alonzo's head
cope
This was probably the most important scene in the movie he got the green light from top chiefs to commit his crime and coverup.
he got greenlit by paying his tribute to them. hence why he asked who's driving.
tsuba14 so what does that mean for the driver ? Red Mercedes?
@@jcguevara4465 In the movie, iirc, he drops off the money he stole in the back of the car in exchange for a warrant.
The Riptide Raptor yea I got that later he bribed him for the warrant to raid roger
Alonso wasn't corrupt it's just how it is in his position and the only reason why they allowed Alonso to do it was cuz they cared about him and didn't want him dead for something stupid he did and realize the Russian was connected to the russian mafia and they were helping him to get the 1 million he needed to pay them off and roger deserved what he got for selling drugs to kids for so many years like Alonzo said to Jake this chess not checkers and in alonzos position for those people to trust him you have to dirt on you thts how he was so close to roger acted as his friend and all tht and then boom when u have your shot to kill him and take everything he had to help himself out you do it
Love this part where they make Alonzo look like some small fish.
@74kjohnson 💯
Wade They're the higher ups in the LAPD.
or not
Allen Greene theyre not all LAPD. Alonso says the first guy is a fed (FBI) and the second guy is DA shooting team.
RCP Pilot Alzono is speaking to three top officials in LAPD they have more power then Alzono.
Notice how these guys use the word "prick" so Alonzo also adopts the usage of the word "prick" as well. That's because Alonzo is making an effort to change his vernacular and behavior around these guys to fit in. It shows how Alonzo is hyper-conscious of every social setting he inhabits. He even introduces Jake to them by using their full names, which is never how he introduces any other characters in the movie, showing that Alonzo genuinely tries to earn their respect. Not to mention every time Alonzo laughs, he looks at the wisemen around him to see if they're laughing. And when he calls Landers a "sharp gal" and the other wisemen burst out laughing, you can hear Alonzo say "no?" revealing that the joke was accidental, and that these guys are on a different league.
Also, every time Alonzo drinks an alcoholic beverage, it's supposed to be a visual queue that we are learning more about Alonzo, and another side of him is being revealed. When he is in Roger's house, he drinks liquor, because we are seeing his friendly side as he banters with Roger, and conceals his intentions to betray Roger later. When he's driving the Monte Carlo, he drinks beer, because we are seeing his manipulative side as he breaks through Jake's morals and attempts to persuade him that sometimes breaking the rules is the right thing to do. In this scene, he drinks wine, because we are seeing his elitist side as he tries to convince these horsemen that he's too good at his job to die at the hands of the Russian mafia, and that his sins will never catch up to him.
Also, the line at 2:49 is significant: "give him credit: he worked the system; he deserves his freedom." It basically reveals Alonzo's true colors, outlining and reestablishing the antagonistic worldview that Jake will eventually have to confront in the climax of the movie. He believes defying the rules of the system is not wrong if you can get away with it. And Jake laughing at the story shows that throughout the day, Alonzo has slowly taken apart and altered Jake's moral code, and even altered the mentality of the audience. We're hearing a story about a criminal walking free in the streets, who, based on the fact that he avoided his punishment and showed little to no remorse, we can predict will likely become a repeat offender. But because, like Jake, you've been trained to admire Alonzo throughout the movie, you can't help yourself but laugh along with him about the situation.
It's also funny how, right after that line at 2:49, when Doug Rosselli challenges what Alonzo says, Alonzo backtracks, because Alonzo knows that he's the subordinate at the table. He realizes that it looks like he's siding with the criminal, and that he's not acting elitist enough to these guys' standards by separating himself from the criminals and vowing to serve street justice to the criminal.
Later at 3:39, Alonzo says he'll cash in one of his accounts. That's how he has dehumanized Roger. He sees Roger not as a friend, he views him as an account.
We also see Jake sipping wine at 1:28. Although drinking wine is a shared action between Alonzo and Jake, the differing colors of their drinks is symbolic of their differing approaches to fighting crime. Alonzo has corrupted Jake enough by this point in the movie that Jake feels comfortable drinking while he's technically supposed to be on the job, but the color of Jake's wine (white) represents the deep-seeded virtues within him that motivate him as a cop. Jake's moral compass has been far from abandoned. Alonzo's wine (red) represents what motivates him as a cop. While Jake retains a basic level of honesty, purity, and innocence, Alonzo is driven by his passions, impulses, and selfishness.
And I haven't even talked about the clothing these characters wear. Mostly because I think the reason why Alonzo wears black throughout the entire movie (except the climax) and Jake wears a white shirt under his dark-colored hoodie is self evident. Although I should point out that Jake's white shirt gets stained with red blood after Alonzo betrays Jake and abandons him with the Sureño gang members who almost shoot him in a bathtub. It's nice symbolism for Jake losing his innocence. And I should also point out that Alonzo wears a white undershirt in the climax because the white represents how pathetically transparent the motivations behind Alonzo's smooth talk are, and we can see what a POS Alonzo truly is.
This scene accomplishes so much in such little runtime. It's so rare to see a movie written this tightly. Each scene is so rich with story, but you know what the best part about this movie is? You don't need any special intuition to enjoy this movie. You can enjoy Training Day as a casual viewer who wants to turn their brain off and experience simple escapism, or you can enjoy it as someone like me who neurotically reads way too much into everything.
Congratulations for reaching the end of this comment.
Hermano me leí todo tu comentario , esta película es mi favorita en 37 años de vida. Saludos desde Argentina Bs As.
That’s some really deep shit, but I follow you…… Still in my top 5 movies ever
I'm a diagnosed malignant narcissist (ASPD+NPD) and Denzel 'performance' is too good to be contrived; sometimes actors lift the curtain (Ralph Fiennes in Sch List another example) ...your appreciation for nuance and subtlety is impressive and just wanted to say that I enjoyed your comment and it resonated personally.
You said thank you for reading the whole comment as if you were trolling. Lol, the original script writers would have to salute your breakdown if they read it. If you don't have a youtube channel, start one! 1000s will subscribe
I straight up love you for this huge breakdown.
I finally understand what the peanut butter story is about. It's about a guy who thinks he is untouchable, he has been out smarting the system but he doesn't realize that he still has to live with the people that are a part of the system.
It’s just a funny fucking story. Nothing more.
@@MrBraddles3128 u so dumb
@@MrBraddles3128 I'm pretty sure the story is about allonzo. But I could be wronf
@@MrBraddles3128 stories in movies aren’t just funny stories, they’re subtle storytelling devices within the greater story. So calm down, don’t be a prick, and appreciate that this guy appreciates the movie and understands it better than you do
smiles and cries
This scene is so multi layered its amazing. I really don't know what I would do if movies like these went away.
Too late they are gone. Thank Hollyweird and Feminism for that.
@@ThothTheAtlanteanK Hollywood is all on Disney/ MCU ball sack now sadly
@@AdamWest1290 Agreed! That's the truth!
@@ThothTheAtlanteanK What are you talking about, dude? Antoine Fuqua has been directing movies every year since Training Day in 2001. He made Brooklyn's Finest in 2009, Olympus had Fallen in 2013, The Equalizer in 2014, The Magnificent Seven in 2016, The Equalizer 2 in 2018, Infinite in 2021, and The Guilty in 2021. All of them are about ex-cops or law enforcement badass dudes shooting people. Stop pretending there's a problem.
@@User-ei7eo My response was to the other commenter's quip on "thank hollyweird and feminism". Whether Fuqua's other movies are average or not, they were made in the spirit and style of Training Day. Feminism didn't force them to be average.
Denzel Washington is arguably one of the best actors of all time.
Soooo true
Not even arguably. He is one of the best
I like to watch him and he's good, no doubt, but he's a one trick pony. There are much better actors out there with a much wider range, like Gary Oldman or Daniel Day Lewis. Even Christian Bale can play more characters than Denzel.
@@Ricardo-cl3vs lmao Denzel is way better.
@@c_dotwildland6695
Lmao, no he's not.. 😅 😂 🤣
"How did you ever screw up so bad" lol it was over after that 😂
Alonzo knew he screwed up right there
I would've shat my pants as Alonzo by that point
@@Yetipfote You can hear the confidence in his voice crack in his response, he probably was shitting and they were nice enough to not say anything.
Yep. He couldn't hold it in any longer. Properly seen the same pattern over the years especially as a superior. He looked genuinely worried for Alonzo's safety and the ability to provide him with extra cash and favors.
@@kickerse13 What he did exactly?
Ethan Hawke is like me in the school cafeteria in this scene.
Why do you eat by yourself?
i thought that i was the only 1 that thunk this especially when he meets the strike team. like u would be the last 1 being picked in gym class.
MrJimmy3459 i vut
Mac i like this part
if you have to ask, then you will never understand the answer.
Only one gentleman at that table and that's the one who stood up to shake Jake's hand during the introductions.
You would be correct sir.
EDIT: I had to add- For some reason a lot of proper etiquette has been lost with kids today...
As the table went around the higher levels of corruption went up.
The lighting in this scene is genius.
The lighting in throughout the whole movie is genius.
I thought the same. Great cinematography. Mauro Fiore is actually kinda underrated as a cinematographer despite winning an Oscar for Avatar (which was more for the overall "groundbreaking 3D visuals") - Training day, The Island, Real Steel, Magnificent Seven are all really well shot movies.
@Woody Meggs Yes, an informal adjective for the noun "genius".
@@srb-ef3zs no lol he’s asking why Is it genius 😂
Try watching this movie when it’s cloudy outside .. open the window. Fucking amazing
smiles and cries.
Chuck Steak Stay away from robin :)
Put the drink down.
I love how they have a good laugh and everyone's having a good time then immediately into "how did you ever screw up so bad?"
And his eyes roll to see all of them to read them. Brilliant acting.
What’s scary is how much of a threat the Russians were to seasoned cops.
Like, I thought cops were untouchable and to kill a detective would have the whole force on your ass.
This is making it seem like even the cops can’t do sht against the Russian mob, which is terrifying.
American mobs/crews have rules. Russian Vor are a different breed...
@@BlaneNostalgia Inside info?
Russians and mob are different breeds for police. And u don’t even wanna mention how bad cartels are
4:05 Tom Berenger goes from calm. To completely serious in seconds. This scene, on its own, has better dialogue and acting. Than most movies nowadays.
Are you his son?
So Sgt. Barnes wound up surviving ‘Nam after all 😂
@@KingKhanate1997 hahaha :D
holy shit that's Tom Berenger?
Tom Berrenger is Barnes back from Vietnam now working for the DEA
I like how in this scene alonzo becomes jake hoyt as soon as he sits down
Erik Rasmussen good observation this is the only time in the movie in which Alonzo doesn’t know how to act he feels overpowered by the 3 wisemen..
Because he isn't a boss. He is just another lapdog like the drug dealer told him.
No shit hahaha
Like Roger said, he's their bitch, ass kisser
That’s one of the many reasons Denzel got an Oscar for this. His body language instantly changes in the presence of the Wisemen, compared to the rest of this film.
Alonzo got owned in this scene suddenly he became the rookie but tells Dre
"Don't worry about it...spoke to the three wise men its all good"
Everything is lovely
@TheRealist 811 I'm not even sure if he was talked down to. They showed care and even compassion towards Alonzo at the end of this scene.
Yes because Alonzo was their Alpha Wolf on the streets. Did their dirty work no questions, no commotions, no feelings
AZK91 I agree. People have this odd narrative they pretends going on here. “Alonzos soooo nervous here.”. You mean when he reaches over and grabs their wine and pours a glass without asking? Quit pretending he’s shaking in his boots because you want to pretend you’re some body language expert.
@@KobaAM I never felt he was scared but I felt he was the Enforcer on the Streets and they were the Enforcers in the Offices so it's like they were equal cause I'm sure if they turned their backs on him he would straight up tell them You forget I do the work on the streets we both need each other
This scene is one of the coldest out there.. It shows that even the top dog in his world can be a pawn in somebody elses
That part!
hes so fuckin natural, its like he doesnt fit the role, the role fits him. he bends fuckin reality with his bossness
Denzel is the most talented actor of our time imo. He flows so perfectly in intense roles like this. His only equal is Daniel Day Lewis.
@@Brandon-iq3dj Jeff bridges
Alonso laughs as a way to fit in here. He doesn't know the punchline, unlike the other wisemen. Many times this occurs in social situations. This whole movie is a statement of how people behave and change with different people under different social circumstances in order to benefit themselves.
You can hear that in the timing of Denzel laughing greet acting
what is the punchline?
Well shot scene. You can feel the atmosphere there.... he's sitting at the table with the big dogs, you can sense the tension in the air, and dialogue and interchanges definitely get that across
This is one of those films. The more you watch it, the more you appreciate it for what it is. They established the players, built the foundations of a solid plot and built upon that with scenes that sucked you in. All within the span of a 24 hour day. It wasnt a perfect movie, but a damn good one with a masterfully acted cast.
3:20 It's all about 3:20. Without a word of dialogue, just with his shifty eyes, Denzel conveys it all. It just got REAL in that moment. Awesome.
Oh yeah, my favorite moment from him in this scene! I don't remember seeing any other movie where a character made this very specific eye shifting thing. Anxious as hell!
@@IronMan-tk8uc maybe the guy who played General Burgdorf in Downfall. When Hitler is screaming at his generals he shifts his eyes in such an intense manner. It really adds to the tension of arguing with a furious dictator on the verge of a complete mental breakdown.
@@acrazysheepdog1555 Ok.
Tom Berenger's grim looks after Doug says “I’m gonna do him”. Masterful.
Facts
Why did he say that I dont get it. Was the guy a problem for Doug?
@@mentlinc he said that because the suspect that he worked so hard to put away got a light deal on his sentence (probably only treatment at a low security level psychiatric clinic vs. actual prison time) because of him basically showing (pretending) to the court that he was crazy with the peanut butter ruse. Doug is disgruntled and defeated over how the system so easily worked in the suspect’s favor that he wants to kill him himself.
@@mentlinc it foreshadows what the Russians did to Alonzo at the end of the film. He tried to finesse his way across killing a Russian mafia boss/or high ranking member thinking he can live when in reality someone of power is going to kill him
It's also a commentary that once you pass a certain line legally or morally (like Alonzo did), the only price you pay is with your life because you have lost the legal or moral pre-requisites to the protection of both. Thus Alonzo screaming impotently that he's the law when the people in a neighbourhood ignore him.
Berringer, Barry, and Yulin. 3 great actors who just dominate this scene. Love it
Talk about a screen presence...wow they def own it
This scene makes you realise that Alonzo is simply a little fish in a pond full of bigger fishes. Just a puppet on a string.
Alonzo is to the 3 Wise men what Jake is to him.
And even the bigger fish at this table has to answer to even bigger fish to get that warrant
sure, Mel maybe you can hand out yourself one of them first class tickets to the Resurrection
this is an amazing comment
So long, Mel. Have a nice trip.
Fuck you!
Took me 15 years to realize this was the same dude lol
@@godisbollocks fuck you you little punk lol
@@godisbollocks FUCK YOU
my man Denzel needs to go to jail for this role. Too convincing.
This is basically the Roger scene. When he tells the story about the snail and answers his phone saying It's your mess you clean it up. He's basically telling Alonzo he's not helping him out of this.
Bro wtf you're a genius 🤣. Being that Roger was connected to the streets do you think he knew there was a price on Alonzos head?
And in the scene he tells Alonso he “has his back” but never actually offering to give him money to help showing there’s no loyalty between them.
DW's character is 100% street in this film, but the second he sits down with these guys, he becomes like them, sounds like them. Pure chameleon.
More like he becomes to them, what Ethan Hawke is to him.
You can immediately tell he's not in control and it makes him uncomfortable
@@Lethalbanter narcissism 101
I can watch this movie over and over again... Denzel is bloody brilliant!
👍
Fun fact: the guy who plays Doug in this scene (Harris Yulin) was the corrupt cop Mel in Scarface.
He was also the FBI agent in Rush Hour 2.
Lmao at dude calling the insane asylum the "puzzle factory"
Brice Kohnen LoL i know
Tom Berenger
Big quotable
yeah they knew what they were talking about!
My Dad and some Vets I know, always referred to mental hospital as the "Puzzle-Factory". This was the first time I ever heard anyone else use the term. Cracked me up.
This part is deep. Shows you how deep the rabbit hole really goes.
If the government is corrupt.... why is the "rabbit hole" of the police force considered deep? Do people really believe the idealistic lies about the "government" and "establishment" acting in their best interest? Like really, even now in 2021? LOL
Did anyone notice that the cop telling the story was the narcotics chief detective Mel Bernstein in Scarface
Montana: "So long Mel have a great trip".
Mel: "Fuck You !"
Thanks for pointing that out I knew he looked familiar
Looks like he got himself one of them first class tickets to the Resurrection.
hell of a catch, man
His name is Harris Yulin, good actor, tends to play a cop or someone in law enforcement quite frequently. Also, a fun fact, he and Denzel were in the movie "The Hurricane."
Wow never new that all those years till now!
This is when the movie goes from a drama to a horror flick. Just about now.
"Guy gets hold of some peanut butter, packs his asscrack with it.." 😂 Gets me every time
This scene is a study in how film are done .
vik 88 ..I know.. Follywood sux these days.. tell me a classic movie in the past 5 years that can compare to a classic like this??can't be done...
Antoine Fuqua is a Hell of a Director.
This movie was a collection of scenes like this, It's one of the best film's i have ever seen.
One of the few oscar-winning performances that was actually deserving of the Oscar
I think all Oscar performances deserved their Oscar
Back then Oscar was corrupted
I always loved how everyone in this scene works. Such beautiful talent all in one scene.
Not to mention, it's better during the rewatch:
The puppeteers talk to the puppet, who pupeteers the rookie.
Such a great work of a film.
EDIT): I love this moment at 2:58
I love how (after having seen the movie and knowing the full story that the latinos tell later) you can practically see what happened: Alonzo in the club, drunk, someone (the Russian) bumps into him and spills his drink and he loses it, and beats a the Russian mobster to death in the back, gets manhandled and taken into a back room and beaten, they demand $1 million in a week and throw him out on the street. Great storytelling without actually telling.
I'd say it's that somehow the Russian called him a bitch. Look at how he responds every time it happens. Extremely violent. I've always wondered if he would even have killed Roger if Roger didn't call him "their bitch."
That hearty laughter at 1:38 😂
💯
Very subtlety acted scene. The more you look at it, the more you realize these guys are all fine professional actors. - because you d swear they were real cops.
Man was out the gate with it!
"I don't talk to dead men!"
Darn!
All of the wisemen are like a part of Alanzo’s personality. The funny one, the sympathetic one, the aggressive one, and the killer. “I’m going to do him if I see him on the streets.” Same what Alanzo was doing with alley crackhead. He’s like all four of them combined.
True
Great scene...excellent choice by Antoine Fuqua to get 3 pros like Tom Berenger, Raymond J. Barry and Harris Yulin to play the wise men...on the DVD commentary Fuqua said he was thrilled these great character actors did the movie.
Exactly I was watching platoon the other day in Tom berenger was great in that movie.
@@joseyeastwood when the machine breaks down, we break down!
Antoine brought guys that could bring the type of gravitas that you needed in a scene like that. It takes a certain type of actor to be able to carry that scene up..... You want an actor that can carry that dialogue and carry that scene forward but can share with the other actors in there.
To add to that imagine for argument's sake if you put someone else in Denzel's role and then put Denzel in that meeting as one of the wise men Denzel would overpower every actor in that scene in my opinion.
@@rolandmiller5456 no no no
If you try to imagine Alonzo's backstory. You can see those guys were probably the ones that brought him into corruption like he, and his team was trying to do with Hoytt later. In the beginning of his career you can imagine Alonzi actually trying to do good like Jake was, but unlike him he actaully went with it.
Well deserved oscar! Denzel was outstanding
I like how you can notice there's a boss, a manager and a supervisor 😅. The boss and manager are just looking and seeing how the Supervisor handle's this situation. Damn how that relates and feels so much like working at your job.
This scene shows who really runs the streets. Alonzo is just an enforcer. They’ll just replace him with another once he’s served his purpose.
True. But it's not that easy to replace a good enforcer who knows to play the game with good streets skills.
@@ivervj2923 But "smart" judges like that always have a man on standby to take over.
Smart bosses know not to fire a good manager until they have replacement.
@@Dominion-1 Touche 😁😉👌
And this enforcer had proven himself too much of a loose cannon and gotten the attention of Russian organized crime on them.
The guy telling the peanut butter story establishes himself as the best actor of the three wise men right here 0:38 without even saying anything... When Jake says "Nice to meet you", he just gives him that look "So polite - must be a total beginner in this dirty business".
@Cutter true they all made this scene work
This stood out to me too. So excellent.
The way he moves his eyes back and forth. The way he puckers his lips drinking the wine as he's getting scolded....
Denzel nailed this role so damn good. The bar was set pretty high after this one.
“I’ll just cash in an account.” I had to wrap my head around that concept for a little bit and realize there are levels to organized crime.
Patrick Paulo what that mean sprry for asking
Strenghtbadger stealing
@@strenghtbadger4517 this so called account was his "friend" he later gunned down in his own home
Tripleblade 82 Happens everywhere. In Hawaii, cops will let chicken fights slide around the island as long as the house gives them their cut. I’m talking easy 100K+ profit at a chicken derby, not including food vendors who come in, dice games that the house provides, etc. I’ve seen cops literally waiting outside the house for their cut. Not to mention gambling’s rooms as well. This shit is definitely real.
@@JohnDoe-us1ek cockfights popular for pinoys and mexicans
No matter how many times I watch this, Im crying with laughter.
The only thing that messed up this whole scene is when the guy says ‘red Mercedes ‘ , but alonzo puts the cash in the silver one
Doesn’t he say “Grey” Mercedes? I hear Grey or Gray.
he really did get a steak.
"It's your story. You tell it."
"It's your tree, Frank. You're sittin in it."
The thing I like about this scene that I know to be true, is that in the real world, the top dog "good guys" (whatever that means) are sitting a few tables down from the top dog "bad guys" at the fine restaurants, and they each acknowledge each other because at those levels, the line you think exists in the sand, doesn't exist. Especially when it comes to money.
and Im watching this literally eating a peanut butter sandwich
diewahrestulle
best fucken comment I read today
diewahrestulle it's "sandwich spread"
diewahr, same here
diewahrestulle did you pack your asscrack with it???
You dirty fuck
He talked them up to jake, but they knew that dude was as good as dead. It was nothing they couldve done to save him. That’s why the initial greeting was “I don’t talk to dead people”. It was a sign to let him know he was in deep shit they couldn’t help him on
This movie ages like fine wine
How original ~ STEPHANI #HOUSLEY # JUNGERS
Training Day, Book of Eli, The Equalizer, & many...MANY more masterful roles, executed by an acting arts master, Denzel Washington!
We may never again see another individual who is so...locked into his/her art like this gentleman is.
Man on Fire.
Glory, Flight, The Siege, John Q, Courage Under Fire, Crimson Tide, Fallen, The Bone Collector, Malcom X, Man on Fire, Deja Vu, and Inside Man are others aswell.
@@thegunslinger1363 Not 1 of either of our lists contains a bad movie. The fella can flat...ACT!
Man on fire, Virtuosity, Richochet,
Crimson Tide, Inside Man, Out of Time, Roman J. Israel.....
They totally set Alonzo up here, a good laugh in the beginning but they were backing off to see if Alonzo could really "handle it" , blind as a bat because of his ego
Especially when the first guy says: "I don't know why I'm meeting with you! I don't talk to dead men!"... they know his days are numbered
And when they advise him to “hop a jet outta there” they knew he was being followed by the Russians and him doing that would just speed up his execution.
"You're a messenger boy, sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill"...
I remember literally almost crying from laughter from this scene. It's funny but not like split my side funny. But with Denzel and Tom Berenger it's easy.
Relentless Ohio tom beringer? Where?
John Howard it’s Tom Beregner he was Stan one of the three wise men
EVERYONE of 3 at table are AMAZING actors! real cool they agreed to be in brief scene, a testament to love of craft and admiration for Mr. Washington.
Including Tom Berenger who played corrupt senior officer Stan Gursky had memorable role as sadistic Sergeant Barnes in Platoon in 1986.
“Judge is female.” It’s interesting they felt that detail is so important to the context of the story. Seems like they don’t think too highly of female authority figures.
Honestly like who would have the foresight to smell an inmate’s finger after the guy put his hand in his ass lmao? men in high positions used to see women as overly emotional in decision making. Women started being eligible to be judge wayy later than they should have. I also think that’s a generational thing. Alonzo called the lady sharp, while the wise men were talking shit about her.
No. no they dont.
Most matured woman don't think woman should be in a position of authority.
I think its great acting that Harris Yulin, who plays the guy telling the story, laughs along with everyone even though he's mad about it. He can't help but laugh at his own pain with his friends about how terrible his luck is.
Good friends make you feel better about bad shit that happens to you because it happens to them too
I first watched this movie when I was a kid, so it took me a couple years and some clarification from my dad for me to really understand how pivotal this scene was to the movie.
me too i was less than 15
That man tells a story so well, so low key, without exaggeration. Let's the story be funny by itself.
God his laugh at 1:38 always makes me crack a smile 😂😂😂
Me too. That crack so contageous
The laughter of evil...
“Why the long face Doug, huh? Feds seize your house or something?”
“Fuck yourself, Alonzo”
Perfect lmao
At 2:30, I can rewind on that laugh all day and not get tired. Thats a classic.
Their laughter were very genuine at best.
You do realize that this scene is basically a personification of Macbeth's Three Witches. They predict Alonzo's downfall just how Macbeth would be King and fail. You do see that, right?
Damn that's deep bro
I like how Alonzo contradicts himself at the end of a sentence twice in this scene which is supposed to be a trait of psychopaths
One is when he says "or not" but what's the other?
Fernando Vargas Mejía when he said the lady is sharp then said no
I didn't catch that, I would replay the scene but some knucklehead posted this clip WITH NO VOLUME!
@@fernandovargasmejia740 He said or not in response to the reaction he got.. I dont know what the original poster is referring too but I doubt its this. This is not a trait of a psychopath
Not a trait of a psychopath but someone who sucks up to superiors by not disagreeing with them
The story is about himself.
One of the greatest movies and greatest villains of all time.
The scene is much more brilliant than it is shows at first, and not just Denzel's acting but also the subtle scripting encoded on it.
I fucking love this scene. It's so intense. "You outta hop a jet out of here".
Yah
Watched this for the first time earlier this year, and it's the best written and acted movie I've ever seen in my entire life. This is a timeless masterpiece, and deserve a solid 10/10 rating
you obviously havnt seen many movies in your life....its a good movie...mainly because of the actors...but not one you want to see right away again
@@jadezee6316 shut up
@@jadezee6316 that’s your opinion. When it came out in 2001, I bought the dvd and watched every day, for a month! One of the best movies of my lifetime, and I’m a 70’s baby.
@@StoneGone hi mate that’s an interesting comment… how come you watched it every day for a month can I ask? was it to pick up on subtle things you might have missed out the first time?
@@Rose_19911 some movies just be like that, I watched Casino & Goodfellas like a 100 times when I first seen them
One of my all time favourites. Denzel was magnetic to the point where even though he was a villain, you sort of rooted for him.
Such an iconic and hillarious scene, and legend of a film. An extremely underrated film that covers such an iconic storyline, with a legendary cast like Denzel Washington, characters, and track too it. Watched it on my birthday today on the 19th of April, and was extremely worth it. I don't want to spoil too much, but its worth every penny, and very intense, action packed, and interesting for those who are interested in watching.
This scene is brilliant and complete perfection!!!
One of my favorite movies, hard to make a movie as good now.
The original Pacific Dining Car in downtown LA. Open 24 hours but also fine dining - I assumed being next to a hospital helped. The baseball steak was my go-to before seeing this movie back in theaters. They knew the area.
I knew something was up when Alonzo said, “I ain’t dead yet.”
If you watch the deleted scenes, one of them is at the end of the film after Alonzo is killed, these 3 show up at Jakes house demanding Rogers money telling Jake that Alonzo missed his appt with the Russians
The peanut butter part should be acted in a movie😂
Great scene, great movie. Need to watch "Training Day" again after something like 22 years. Regards, Michael M. Kamau, Nairobi, Kenya, East Africa, 4th May 2024.
0:11 important to me but maybe not to others, Captain Lou Jacobs actually gets up to shake Jake's hand. The other 2 don't. I was always taught never to shake someone's hand while sitting down if they're standing. But I wonder why the other 2 didn't bother shaking at all. Raymond Berry for the WIN
Different culture, different manners, maybe. Or he just stand up so Hoyt can shake Stan's hand directly.
Denzel Washington is one of those actors who avoids being typecast. He can be the bad guy in a movie like Training Day and the good guy in a movie like The Equalizer. Few actors can pull that off. Can't imagine Harrison Ford being the bad guy in any movie, for example, and he's a great actor.
Ford pulled off What lies beneath pretty well. But i agree Denzel can play good guy bad guy well. Only thing is, alot of those guys still seem similar. He's not a character actor really. Just a natural with charisma. He absolutely killed this and Malcom x though. These were characters. One of my favorite actors so I'm not putting him down
He played an antagonist in the movie Liberty Standing Still, although he was mostly just a voice.
@@el34glo59 That was one of Mr. Ford’s best performances.
All the great actors have done both roles
Few actors can pull off good guy characters and bad guy characters?