Vintage Cooke Look You Can Afford
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Light Lens Lab has recently released their SPII.
This lens has the optical design of a vintage Cooke Speed Panchro II from the 1940's in a compact, all brass, M-mount housing.
You can find the lens here -
lightlenslab.m...
Here is my experience with the lens after I adapted it to the Sony system.
Check out my instagram account at -
plaughrey
Those are some beautiful images, I love the bokeh and blooming. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the kind comments Bryan, glad you enjoyed it 🙌
7artisans 35mm f1.2 mark ii new 170USD. Vintage rendering with double gauss, planar build. Better than all my vintage lenses from Leica, Pentax, Konica and Olympus
I've been really impressed with 7artisans, I'll have to check out that 35mm sometime soon!
Looks a lot like my adapted Olympus 50mm 1.8F Zuiko glass.
Only difference is the Olympus glass is around $50-$150 depending on what lenses you want.
That looks awesome, but its absolutely expensive for results that can be easily mimicked by lenses of yesteryear. 80s Zuiko glass is very sharp on subject with a very impressive bokeh across the whole range which is very very durable and high end.
Now the Viltrox 75mm 1.2F, that's worth every penny of $539 when it comes to modern offerings that truly stand apart! I'd recommend you review one!
Reminds me a lot of my Takumar 50/1.4(8e), nice to be able to buy something NEW like this rather than risk the used market quality. Good on LLL for doing this.
Takumar 50/1.4, 8 elements or not, has very noticeable green outline on bokeh balls, which Light Lens Lab's doesn't.
I bought this for my Zcam F8. The footage will blow you away. I love this lens. I had an old Russian Oct 19 which was a knock off of Cooke lens/ But this is a recreation. Very true to the original except this one can do full frame not just super35. Buy it you will not regret it.
Thanks for sharing! I totally agree!
Reminds me a lot of my Meyer Optik Gorlitz 58mm f/1.8 Primoplan (Gen II version). Nice video.
Very Interesting! I've never looked at the Primoplan, but I've so many great things about Meyer Optik. Ill have to check out a copy 👍
Thanks for the comment!
I filmed with the speed panchro pl with my Leica SL2-S and it blows me away about the softness and details in the pictures. Cook reinvented the panchros : CP3. Can't wait to test them. ;)
I just received mine today after a little bit of delay. Can't wait to go out and shoot with it.
A 3D printed “Leica-like” focuser tab would be nice.
oh totally agreed!
The focus tab is perfect for me
I love it! you should come on the podcast and i give you a lens stand for this lens! the timing and build up was good :) this will do well!
I would love to hop on the podcast!
Lets make that happen before the end of July!
Thank you for your kind works Fitzaey!
WOW, GORGEOUS! Does it comes in EF-Mount?...
It comes in Leica M mount.
Unfortunately I believe the flange distance of EF will not allow you to adapt an M mount lens.
There are affordable adapters for the new RF mount from canon, due to the reduced distance to the sensor.
Great vid Pat, miss skating with you!
-John Ref Kennedy
Howdy John! Thanks for checking out the video, we have to meet up for a skate before I leave to Colorado!
Nice sequencing and vibes!
Thanks for stopping by and checking out the video Matthew!
1:18 like the bag! What is it?☺️
How is the focus breathing on this lens?
Oh shoot, that would have been a great thing to add to the video 🤦♂️
I’ll do some testing tomorrow and come back with some results 🤘
@@Plaughrey I've not found anyone on RUclips who talked about the focus breathing on this lens. Definitely would appreciate it if you could show it or talk about it. 👍
Been eyeing this lens for video work for a long time. How often do you expect to go to this lens vs others in the similar 50mm range?
Hope you are will Michael!
So far the lens has still stayed on my camera daily. I like the weight and balance on my sony. The lens can be difficult to work with especially wide open, but I do find I really enjoy the texture the lens imparts to the image.
I am constantly adjusting the aperture to avoid over blooming the image, or adjusting how the vignetting is effecting the frame, and all the fine adjustments sometimes leads me to miss moments which can be frustrating.
Overall I am very involved with the process of capturing images when using the LLL, and the difficulties turn into creative opportunities to adjust how I am approaching a scene or situation.
70 mm minimum focus is NOT typical for 50 mm, maybe for really old vintage lenses. Even 40 year old good vintage lenses can get closer. Thanks for sharing, though!
Ahh I misspoke, I meant that it’s typical for rangefinder lenses 🤦♂️
I must have missed this on editing 😂
Typical for M lenses, and this is M mount one as well.
True, and upon watching it the second time you actually mention it being typical for rangefinder cameras. Although good lens makers like Voigttländer offer 50 mm minimum focus distance.
@@apocryphal_man most, if not all M mount lenses are .7 meter minimum focus distance for M systems. Not a knock on the maker at all - fact of how the rangefinder mechanism works. So, even if you have an M lens that an focus at .5m, it won't be done via the rangefinder, only the EVF.
For rangefinder it is
It's huge! ... compared with the Summicron.
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Hi Patrick. Thanks for the great review. Been playing around with my lens and I noticed something odd. Not sure if it's my copy or if it is normal as they say. If you go above f8 I notice a blue haze in the center of the frame? I reached out to Light Lens and this is what they told me: This is a normal phenomenon with original SPII as the internal reflection has caused the lens to have diffraction under low T-Stops. It is advise to not shoot SPII under F8. It was only very recently that we discovered this phenomenon. Either our production and distribution network was not aware of this phenomenon due to the lens usually being shot under f/8. Do you get this haze on your lens over f8? Thanks Kevin!
indeed it does. its most notable on low contrast scenes, directly in the center of the image plane.
I skipped ahead to the test footage, and yes, this does look like the 40k cooke lenses ive rented... it indeed does, same color.
It’s exciting to hear you saw some optical similarities to your rented lenses, thanks for leaving the comment 🙏
I know LLL is working on a PL mount model, so it will be very interesting to see how they approach the construction of the lens casing.
There was even talk about moving away from helicoidal focusing mechanism to minimize focus breathing, but I would be that comes down to manufacturing costs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Plaughrey Ive used miniS4i and Cooke Anamorphic on an 8k Red. Your video looks like it could cut right into these.
That’s not really a small lens if you’re on about M lenses. Sold this immediately for a profit (of course) since I got mine direct from China. My Summilux does better and still more compact.
They are asking too much money for a knockoff. I’ll rather put on a soft mist filter and save 1k.
I totally get it, it isn't a perfect lens and is not a great fit for everyone.
That being said a soft mist filter will never recreate the optical characteristics (both good and bad)
What matters most is creating and capturing moments the feels best to YOU!
I will always recommend save your money for experiences and document those with what you have.
At the end of the day a lens is just a tool; it's the world around you, and your experiences within it that will always be more valuable. 🙌
Would have appreciated if you had pointed out that this LLL lens actually doesn't look like Cooke. It has vintage character but does it actually replicate that Cooke look? I don't think so. It's just a story/claim that they have made up. Most 'real' vintage lenses will give you better optical quality and character at a cheaper price.
At the end of the video I do admit that I've never used an authentic Cooke, so my opinion does not hold a whole lot of weight in this matter 😂
That being said, I did have a few conversations with David Chen from the North American devision of LLL, and we talked at length about how they approached the optical design.
They have an original 1940s Cooke Speed Panchro II in their lab, and went through a pain staking process to get as close of match as possible to the optical design and coatings to the original.
@@Plaughrey All that sounds great but how do I know they succeeded in doing what they set out to do? Why don't they have someone shoot with the original Cooke and this lens side by side and show the results? Without that it sounds like a marketing gimmick to extract $$$ from vintage lens lovers.
Is that the case. I will be interested if you can get me a Leica Elcan below $200. Have you shoot with both to come up with the above rant about this video.
@@photomotion How do you know if they are not succeeded in doing what they set out to do? Guessing ? how do you know if they did not have someone shooting with the original and the one they created? Did you shoot with both? Without that it sounds more like you having an unreasonable bashing on a product you did not even try.
Soft yuk .
It is soft wide open, and challenging to use in different lighting scenarios for sure. That being said it's been a few months now and it hasn't really left my camera.
So far its been a nice fit for me!
Just buy a Leica, you won’t regret it 😊
I have a few on the wishlist!
周库克!!
使用这款镜头很愉快!
People going on about lenses is like people talking about hints of “cinnamon” and “chocolate” in their $5 Trader Joe's wine.
IMO. Any old prime lens blows this out of the water. Crap lens. Wildly overpriced.
A lens is just a tool.
As long what you use helps to inspire you to go out and shoot, use what ever sparks joy ✨
@@Plaughrey Sure. I just felt it necessary to note my opinion. Because it really just seems like you're selling an overpriced item to beginners. This should be $200 max. A savvy shooter could pay $15 (+adapter cost) for a similar feeling vintage 50mm at their local garage sale. Blowing my mind that this is listed for $1050. I understand that it's your tool and you like it (totally fair). But woof! I wouldn't feel good recommending it.
@@backyardwindow great point!
I did not realize that the video came off as a recommendation for beginners. Not who I was aiming for at all.
When I got started in photography I did exactly as you said. I picked up as many inexpensive lenses as I could from flea markets or vintage shops and adapted to my camera for as little money as I could manage, and it taught me so much about photography early on.
I’ll be sure to specify an experience level in my recommendation in future videos, or maybe include a little bit more about my journey to help give context.
@@Plaughrey I think your video is perfectly fine in explaining your own finding on this lens. I have not used this LLL lens and the one I have used is LLL elcan. Yes, it is around $700 not really suited to everyone's budget and can be more expensive than some of the vintage lens. I think from my experience vintage lens ( I have four M42 mount lenses, 3 Nikon AI-s) and also own Voitglander 58mm F1.4 Ai-s version, I think LLL elcan has its own unique characters that endear itself to one who have used it, it is not perfect like some of the autofocus lens we see from the major makers, but it held its own against the other manual focus lens from the other makers. Just a note a lot of savvy shooter also use this lens or LLL's other lenses.
Real photographers shoot film, not digital!
Not any more in 2020s.
@@jliang70
You''ve obviously never shot chrome film!
Cheap Chinese knockoffs