Here in Central TN, azoxy, propio, and TM are my 3 I go to. Def have some gray leaf spot out there, but it's not destroyed the whole yard yet. Thankfully some of the grass is several years old and seems to have some resistance. But, the TM +azoxy is going out this weekend. THat 3336 is so nasty to mix, half of it sticks to the measuring cup lol
If anything makes me throw in the towel on keeping my lawn looking good, it will be the dreaded grey leaf spot. I've used Headway G, Clearys 3336F, DiaeaseX Bio Advanced fungus, Sprayed Propiconazole. I've been starting in June, maybe, I will try starting in May, double down or use the highest dose, and pray for the best. My only other option is, keep over seeding every fall. I don't use cheap seed, so, that's not an inexpensive option either. Thanks, John
Here in PA almost every new fescue lawn I treat got GLS this year. All seeded with "high end" seed, managed appropriately, and they ALL go it. They all looked amazing in the early spring. Really dishearten given the lack of solutions like you said. Some recovered well and others are still struggling months later. The most important thing iv learned about GLS is to not wait to treat. every day that goes by the damage gets exponentially worse... like the army worm of fungus lol! Great info Paul.
You seem to have recovered from covid judging by your videos.Sorry to hear it kept you off your lawns but thankful you came through it and back on lawns doing what you love doing in life and for each and every customer you service. Hope they appreciate your efforts each and every year.
@@PaulsPrimeCuts guess I have a softer side in there somewhere. After you run yourself silly with fungicides get ready to extinguish armyworm fires next. HOPE I'm wrong....lol
Grey leaf spot definetly showing up in Nashville more this summer than last. We got hot super early this year. I wonder if the accumulating soil temperature reaches a magic number and then all hell breaks loose. It definitely laughs at strobe by itself. I hate this time of year! Hang in there
Man, you are a lifesaver. I've been following your advice in applying homemade Headway as a preventative and I recently noticed a few brown spots. I applied additional Azoxystrobin full rate thinking it was some Rhizoctonia that got through. I just looked more closely and saw the tell-tale grey spots and I have some TM 4.5F on the way. Thanks for putting these videos together!
Lost my whole yard this year to grey leaf spot here in Zebulon. Was on azoxy and propiconizole preventative plan. Azoxy at a curative rate wouldn’t touch it. Wasn’t really sure what I was dealing with until it was to late and I just let it go. Working on killing any Bermuda grass I have in my yard until I renovate this fall.
@@PaulsPrimeCuts thanks for the advice, I had some triple threat plus in there I put down trying to fill in bare spots this spring so it was young grass. The mature fescue I had in my yard was a mix of Scott’s and Pennington I don’t think that stuff does well in this region even the “southern blends” If I get it down and get it growing good before we get a frost and add that TM next year I might be alright next summer. Nothing like a tall fescue yard when it’s thriving!
@@PaulsPrimeCuts I’ve been pounding my yard with Humic12 and amendments trying to fix the clay and compaction for over two years now. I can take a long screw driver and push it right down into the ground pretty easily. I need to make sure I have my watering schedule dialed in and find a nice in between on cut height for drought tolerance and disease pressure this time of year. I wish I could send you some pictures from about a month ago to how it is now. Its depressing.
@@PaulsPrimeCuts fescue is a challenge for sure but it does stay greener longer throughout the year, the growing season for bermuda and centipede is so short. I can set it up this fall and have it looking perfect and keep it that way all winter. I’ve been fertilizing my bermuda I have mixed in and then hitting it with glyphosate and then scalping, I’m on like my third round.
I've been fighting grey leaf spot for several year's. Last fall I over seeded, replanted some area's, due to grey leaf spot. My lawn was beautiful last fall, into spring, early summer, then, wam! It's back. I've been preventive treating, and it has helped. It's not near as bad this year. So, I will do more over seeding again this fall with tttf.
Great video. Glad you are feeling better. Thank you for slowing down on you panning over the yards and the close ups. It makes a difference. Very informative again. Keep up the good fight 🙏👍😎
PPC- i planted a new TTTF lawn last fall. Two weeks ago i had the best lawn ive ever had. Thick, lush and beautiful. Today, i have grey leaf spot and sections of my lawn are completely gone. It happened so fast. We got lots of rain over here in Western NC every afternoon. Nothing I could do. Im so depressed
We have had hot humid conditions with afternoon boomers here too definitely makes it worthwhile to include TM fungicide as a preventative in your program for problem lawns
Your lucky you still have a list of fungicides you can use. Here and Canada we have 0. When a fungus hits one of my yards then I have to just try and grow it out. Sucks. Great videos man.
I know we're coming up on seeding season and you're busy but if you find yourself near NC state, they just released a new zoysia cultivar (Lobo) and it's supposed to be good. Would love to see a video on it with it's characteristics and tolerances
Try neem oil. I mixed a little with my fungicide and it helped. Then after I put it down on my lawn, we had 12.80 inches of rain over night. They said the chances of getting that much rain was one in a thousand. I live outside of St Louis, MO
Do you do much business outside of Nash County? Im not seeing grey leaf spot but I am seeing some. I am seeing a lot of brown patch in Warren/Halifax county area despite the dry summer we have had... My biggest problem now is different nutsedge weeds popping up!
Paul, I own a small lawn care operation in High Point, NC. Would Triple Threat Plus be a good choice to reseed my tall fescue lawns here? If so do you know of a place that sells it within a couple hours drive so I can pick it up and save shipping charges. Looking for 500 lbs on first order.
GLS has hit my young grass hard as well plus heard its wide spread in Charlotte area. I removed a big tree bed and seeded in fall, its struggling compared to my older grass between heat stress and GLS with same watering routine and preventative fungicide rotations of all the good stuff. Tell tale is it's a slope and I used 3 pieces of sod at its steepest point as seed ran off, that mature/older sod is untouched and in perfect condition where younger grass around it is toast... got me an island in the disaster zone, lol.
Great tip on gls resistant cultivars as well.. have had good luck with GCI seed in past but for overseeding this fall I picked up some small bags of brand new Mountain View gls varieties in Hope's it staves off future grey leaf spot infections better
Paul. This was really helpful to me calling out products and rates for a fledgling sprayer guy. Need your help though. I’ve got 419 that I treated with preemergent in fall and spring but the DOVEWEED is taking over. Hit it with TRIBUTE which made it mor angry. Need your help as well as your followers. Thx
That should have got it. In Bermuda I would spray it with 4oz Celsius & 6oz of dismiss. Or the tribute with a MSO surfactant…. But that’s a little spendy
Hey Paul, I remember last year you were running 3336 at 1oz/k (maybe 2oz) in the tank with Azoxy and Prop as your preventative Gray Leaf Spot application. Is that still a good strategy as long as disease is not active?
I ran it at around 2 oz I didn’t get any issues. But the turf PhDs say you need to run 5 oz🤷♂️and I didn’t run it till August round… maybe I just got lucky
Oh man, gray leaf spot in fescue reminds me of Summer Patch in my KGB. Seem like the fungus fairy waved a wand overnight and it was mostly gone. Unrecoverable. 👎🏻
Elmers glue comment - lol ..... LOVE hearing about any lawns you swipe from TRUGREEN. =D
It ain’t hard to do😂
You the man Paul. Love the content
Thanks
Here in Central TN, azoxy, propio, and TM are my 3 I go to. Def have some gray leaf spot out there, but it's not destroyed the whole yard yet. Thankfully some of the grass is several years old and seems to have some resistance. But, the TM +azoxy is going out this weekend. THat 3336 is so nasty to mix, half of it sticks to the measuring cup lol
It’s a goopy one!
Always learn something watching your videos
I’m glad you found something helpful in this garbage 😂
@@PaulsPrimeCuts brown patch got about half my front lawn. Think I’m just gonna kill it all and start over.
Paul, u rock!
Thanks
Grubs have been a major issue, far beyond I've ever seen before this year in my area.
Where are you?
Western part of the state in the Foothills...
You can't beat mother nature!
If anything makes me throw in the towel on keeping my lawn looking good, it will be the dreaded grey leaf spot.
I've used Headway G, Clearys 3336F, DiaeaseX Bio Advanced fungus, Sprayed Propiconazole.
I've been starting in June, maybe, I will try starting in May, double down or use the highest dose, and pray for the best. My only other option is, keep over seeding every fall. I don't use cheap seed, so, that's not an inexpensive option either. Thanks, John
Here in PA almost every new fescue lawn I treat got GLS this year. All seeded with "high end" seed, managed appropriately, and they ALL go it. They all looked amazing in the early spring. Really dishearten given the lack of solutions like you said. Some recovered well and others are still struggling months later. The most important thing iv learned about GLS is to not wait to treat. every day that goes by the damage gets exponentially worse... like the army worm of fungus lol! Great info Paul.
Yes it is very quick and devastating
You seem to have recovered from covid judging by your videos.Sorry to hear it kept you off your lawns but thankful you came through it and back on lawns doing what you love doing in life and for each and every customer you service. Hope they appreciate your efforts each and every year.
Who hijacked your phone? This doesn’t sound like a typical Steve Willy comment 😂
@@PaulsPrimeCuts guess I have a softer side in there somewhere. After you run yourself silly with fungicides get ready to extinguish armyworm fires next. HOPE I'm wrong....lol
@@stevewilley5185 that sounds more like Steve
Try trimec 3way...spike with triclopyr on button weed.
Have you ever had the customer accuse you of applying something to the lawn that hurt the grass. When it was a fungus ?
No but I have had them accuse me of putting out something that hurt the grass …. When I put out something that hurt the grass
Grey leaf spot definetly showing up in Nashville more this summer than last. We got hot super early this year. I wonder if the accumulating soil temperature reaches a magic number and then all hell breaks loose. It definitely laughs at strobe by itself. I hate this time of year! Hang in there
It was a lot dryer last year. We have had just the right kind of rain to be a problem in July
Man, you are a lifesaver. I've been following your advice in applying homemade Headway as a preventative and I recently noticed a few brown spots. I applied additional Azoxystrobin full rate thinking it was some Rhizoctonia that got through. I just looked more closely and saw the tell-tale grey spots and I have some TM 4.5F on the way. Thanks for putting these videos together!
Cool! Good luck!
I've always had good luck with running tm at 1-2 oz as preventative. Always make sure my water PH is 6 or under.
I did that last year on my August round and only had one or two blow up
Lost my whole yard this year to grey leaf spot here in Zebulon. Was on azoxy and propiconizole preventative plan. Azoxy at a curative rate wouldn’t touch it. Wasn’t really sure what I was dealing with until it was to late and I just let it go. Working on killing any Bermuda grass I have in my yard until I renovate this fall.
Sorry to hear that. Get the triple threat plus from southern seeds this year and add that TM to to the July and August fungus treatments
@@PaulsPrimeCuts thanks for the advice, I had some triple threat plus in there I put down trying to fill in bare spots this spring so it was young grass. The mature fescue I had in my yard was a mix of Scott’s and Pennington I don’t think that stuff does well in this region even the “southern blends” If I get it down and get it growing good before we get a frost and add that TM next year I might be alright next summer. Nothing like a tall fescue yard when it’s thriving!
@@turboaccord1 true, they are awesome when they live but they are a crazy idea in our area 😂
@@PaulsPrimeCuts I’ve been pounding my yard with Humic12 and amendments trying to fix the clay and compaction for over two years now. I can take a long screw driver and push it right down into the ground pretty easily. I need to make sure I have my watering schedule dialed in and find a nice in between on cut height for drought tolerance and disease pressure this time of year. I wish I could send you some pictures from about a month ago to how it is now. Its depressing.
@@PaulsPrimeCuts fescue is a challenge for sure but it does stay greener longer throughout the year, the growing season for bermuda and centipede is so short. I can set it up this fall and have it looking perfect and keep it that way all winter. I’ve been fertilizing my bermuda I have mixed in and then hitting it with glyphosate and then scalping, I’m on like my third round.
I've been fighting grey leaf spot for several year's. Last fall I over seeded, replanted some area's, due to grey leaf spot. My lawn was beautiful last fall, into spring, early summer, then, wam! It's back. I've been preventive treating, and it has helped. It's not near as bad this year. So, I will do more over seeding again this fall with tttf.
Great video. Glad you are feeling better. Thank you for slowing down on you panning over the yards and the close ups. It makes a difference.
Very informative again. Keep up the good fight 🙏👍😎
Hopefully some is this free advice is correct and helpful 😂
PPC- i planted a new TTTF lawn last fall. Two weeks ago i had the best lawn ive ever had. Thick, lush and beautiful. Today, i have grey leaf spot and sections of my lawn are completely gone. It happened so fast. We got lots of rain over here in Western NC every afternoon. Nothing I could do. Im so depressed
Same happened to me. Left for vacation came back a week later and 60% gone. It’s terrible.
We have had hot humid conditions with afternoon boomers here too definitely makes it worthwhile to include TM fungicide as a preventative in your program for problem lawns
Your lucky you still have a list of fungicides you can use. Here and Canada we have 0. When a fungus hits one of my yards then I have to just try and grow it out. Sucks. Great videos man.
The US will probably be like that before too long
More good stuff, always something to learn!
True I’ll never get it all figured out
I know we're coming up on seeding season and you're busy but if you find yourself near NC state, they just released a new zoysia cultivar (Lobo) and it's supposed to be good. Would love to see a video on it with it's characteristics and tolerances
I saw it and the sola staugistine very nice
We call it the eye of Sauron for grey leaf spot. Lol. Great content!
It’s been right for fungus I’m surprised they all aren’t blown up
Paul, this stuff gets depressing for the average homeowner.
It can be… always an adventure in learning when your fighting nature
Try neem oil. I mixed a little with my fungicide and it helped. Then after I put it down on my lawn, we had 12.80 inches of rain over night. They said the chances of getting that much rain was one in a thousand. I live outside of St Louis, MO
I’d be scared to do that in this heat
Thank you for putting out this info! I'm in East TN so similar weather to yours. I better spray something soon, would hate to get GLS...
Do you do much business outside of Nash County? Im not seeing grey leaf spot but I am seeing some. I am seeing a lot of brown patch in Warren/Halifax county area despite the dry summer we have had... My biggest problem now is different nutsedge weeds popping up!
We are seeing some sedges as well … it may be the subject of the next video
If you didn’t necessarily see GLS but wanted to do a preventative, could you run less than the 5oz rate and be effective?
I have had some success at 2 oz per k
Paul, love the toilet swirl comment
It was my first thought when I saw it
Paul, I own a small lawn care operation in High Point, NC. Would Triple Threat Plus be a good choice to reseed my tall fescue lawns here? If so do you know of a place that sells it within a couple hours drive so I can pick it up and save shipping charges. Looking for 500 lbs on first order.
Southern seeds inc … middlesex NC
I hope the new chemical works for you! Thanks for the video!
Thanks hopefully it will slow it down
GLS has hit my young grass hard as well plus heard its wide spread in Charlotte area. I removed a big tree bed and seeded in fall, its struggling compared to my older grass between heat stress and GLS with same watering routine and preventative fungicide rotations of all the good stuff. Tell tale is it's a slope and I used 3 pieces of sod at its steepest point as seed ran off, that mature/older sod is untouched and in perfect condition where younger grass around it is toast... got me an island in the disaster zone, lol.
Great tip on gls resistant cultivars as well.. have had good luck with GCI seed in past but for overseeding this fall I picked up some small bags of brand new Mountain View gls varieties in Hope's it staves off future grey leaf spot infections better
Paul. This was really helpful to me calling out products and rates for a fledgling sprayer guy.
Need your help though. I’ve got 419 that I treated with preemergent in fall and spring but the DOVEWEED is taking over. Hit it with TRIBUTE which made it mor angry. Need your help as well as your followers. Thx
That should have got it. In Bermuda I would spray it with 4oz Celsius & 6oz of dismiss. Or the tribute with a MSO surfactant…. But that’s a little spendy
at this rate, i'm going with a strong dose of glysophate. Seems to kill it off well!...lol
Astro turf
Mann.....that blows.
The video or the fungus?…. I’ll agree with you on either
Paul great content as always I also have GLS but only have azoxy should I just keep going on those apps and just re seed for my own yard
They say Azoxystrobin is only about 50% effective on GLS . You can try adding the TM to your arsenal
@@PaulsPrimeCuts is it worth it to put it down this year or just get some to add to my program for next year I’ll be seeding at the end of the month
@@Jeff-zc6ti well any grass you can carry over to next year will be a benefit to you
Hey Paul, I remember last year you were running 3336 at 1oz/k (maybe 2oz) in the tank with Azoxy and Prop as your preventative Gray Leaf Spot application. Is that still a good strategy as long as disease is not active?
I ran it at around 2 oz I didn’t get any issues. But the turf PhDs say you need to run 5 oz🤷♂️and I didn’t run it till August round… maybe I just got lucky
The weather last year wasn’t great for growing nice grass but it was on the dry side for fungus too … who knows what August will have in store for us
Does the rat e difference in sports turf have to do with the fact that it is short cut sport turf?
Oh man, gray leaf spot in fescue reminds me of Summer Patch in my KGB. Seem like the fungus fairy waved a wand overnight and it was mostly gone. Unrecoverable. 👎🏻
I might save a few sprigs 😂
What was the name of that other fungicide? Beloton? Veloton?
Bayleton
Thank you Sir!