5 Things you DON'T need for FLY FISHING!
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If I waited for the wind to not be a factor I’d never fly fish. It’s always windy where I live.
Same here, it's windy 95% of the time. We just learn how to work with it.
@@TheKrazykris any words of advice for fly fishing in the wind?
@@cheflexx778 get it to you back and let the wind carry your line out to the fish.
It's always blowing where I live so I've just learned how to spey cast to combat it
The best day I ever had was in a gale force wind on the Bighorn, and yes I had on a vest and I was fishing with.....no name dropping, so ??? !!!
Just a little bit of information re the vest. The late, great Lee Wulff invented the fishing vest. He started using a photographers vest for his fishing and the concept expanded from there. He also invented the first Spey fly line tapers, with his Triangle Taper fly lines, with the mass at the rear of the head, descending to a finer taper. He also championed catch and release fishing. A true pioneer of our time.
Thanks for sharing, Ranger. Lee was incredible, and I often cite him with one of my favorite fly fishing quotes: “Game fish are too valuable to be caught only once.” Appreciate you taking the time to post, and look forward to hearing more from you on my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa Wow. That brown trout on your blog has to be one of the most beautiful fish i've ever seen.
There is nothing wrong with a vest it’s is just as viable as the other options you mentioned. I have a vest, sling pack, and a hip pack all have their time and place but my vest is the most versatile
I'm glad you have a vest that works for you, Kevin. I've tried over a dozen in 30 years, and there's only one that I use occasionally. But that's the beauty of our fly fishing industry today, we have so many incredible choices to meet our personal preferences. Thanks for taking a moment to comment and I hope all is well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa I know you are an Orivs guy but check out the Simms vests
@@Kfons53598 I have a simms vest and I love it. Personally I prefer a vest over a pack.
I've tried big pockets, sling packs, and waist packs. I keep going back to the vest. It holds flies, tippet and leaders, a water bottle....and snacks.....what more do ya need?
A lot of us just have to learn to work with the wind. I have found that going up a rod size or two will help greatly. It is also a great opportunity to fish terrestrials since the fish know to expect them in high winds.
Not a lot of us, Kris...ALL of us. Wind is just a part of the game, one I accept and work with. One of my largest brown trout was caught on a day with 50mph gusts. But give me the choice of snow or wind, and I'm always going with the former. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa We should - but I bet in the hard days, you rarely see any other fly fiskers out there..
@@CONEHEADDK nope…and that’s a good thing for those of us who keep grinding on those days!
As a winter steelheader I love both,, it’s like you never heard of a 2 hander with 600 grains it’s pushing like a 14 weight in 20 feet and the wind puts chop and hides u ….. skagit heads even on single make wind a joke betty white wasn’t around and never got into skagit fishing…… In Europe they just use 16 footers when ur fishing sea run unless it’s a hurricane u don’t care
I am new to this.... What are terrestrials?
While you don’t need an expensive rod, and I have used rather inexpensive rods while starting fly fishing, as I matured and saved up my T&T has been an absolute game changer.
I agree, I didn’t need the 100s of different flies I initially bought 🙄. Now I tie a very limited number of flies that usually work everywhere.
We're on the same page with rods...and T&T makes a fine stick! Thanks for sharing and I hope all is well with you. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
THANK YOU! I needed to hear that.
I matured, too, in reverse. I have one rod that cost $150 but my $10 rods catch just as many fish. I built a 6 ft., 2 wt., for about $50.
Thank you great little article. I started fly fishing in 1978, with a $50.00 outfit. Diawa rod for 7wt and big spool Diawa real. I learned to flyfish on the Connetquot River on Long Island. I now fish small streams in NH where I live.
You're welcome, Alfred, I appreciate the kind words...and you've been fly fishing for nearly 45 years, wow! I would love to hear the stories you have accumulated over the years, especially how you have seen fly fishing change. Very cool, and thanks again for taking a moment to share. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Good video, Tim! Personally I like the parachute Adams, mainly due to my eyesight. It allows me to see the fly a lot better, especially in choppy water.
And besides, IT WORKS!
Thanks for sharing and the kind words, Adam, and the Adams catches fish...no doubt! I just prefer a few flies that seem to outperform it. ;-) I hope all is well on your end, we have a lot of fishing to do in 2023. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa I was going to subscribe, great tactics and for that I'm out!
I like the parachute technique for same reasons of visibility and use it for all my mayfly, attractor and hopper patterns. I like to fish the morning and evening bites so I a white post typically but one of my best days was a royal Wolff with Scarlett red post tied on shore, casted twice and had one of the best takes and fight in my life on the Dolores, reel screaming while I palmed and realed for at least 10 minutes netted a 20" Rainbow my first trophy size and 20 years later seems like last week!
Once on a small stream, I had a heavy wind I didn’t need, so I took the Parachute Adams I didn’t need and flew it like a kite over the rippled water. When it was about 2’ in front of the rising fish, I dropped the rod tip for a perfect placement and a great strike. It wasn’t casting, and it wasn’t dapping; it was more like sailing.
That sounds like the PERFECT way to use the wind...and a darn nice dry fly! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Well I love the Adams dry fly, I tie mine traditional, my other favorite dry fly is the Griffith's Gnat. Tim I still have that Trout and Feather Mug you sent me, but i only use it when I tie flies, I only put some ice in it and then well Makers Mark. 8'6" 5 wt fly rods have been my go to for trout longer than you been alive. My current one is also my first four piece rod. Scott Flex.
Thanks for sharing, George, and great to know you still have the mug! I hope all is well for you this year, and thanks for continuing to support my videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
People can check with a fly fishing club in that area and they may have a website that will have that the info list of the flies in that area. I agree with you 100%. I fish out a kayak, so I fish a lot of lakes and small ponds. Thanks for the info.
You're welcome, Sidney, and thanks for taking a moment to comment! I have some experience with kayaks, as they are so much fun! I tend to use an inflatable raft for lakes and rivers, they are a blast, too. I look forward to hearing from you on some of my other videos.Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Especially for newbies I agree with most of your points, with all of the reasons why. Now I am almost 63 year old Brit ole git for much of my personal styles of fishing for me the vest works. Yup a high wading type vest for rivers, streams larger loaded one for on a boat on a large lake. With tackle you are on point. Many so called second tier rods reels lines are more suited and flexible in uses than the high end kit. One the best uk companies for balance of price, performance, and the way they just work is Wychwood. Most of use overspend for rods that are totally unsuitable for either the water they are fishing or their skill set required to even use the rod. Also spotted the HANAK hat. Their hooks are absolute cutting edge of modern design. As big a leap as Kamasan hooks in the eighties. I use and prefer them for most of my personal and competitive fishing. The hook and leader are the two things many wrongly skimp on
Thanks for the comments and kind words, Michael, and I appreciate you mentioning Wychwood, I'll be sure to check them out. Hanak...LOVE their stuff, hooks, leaders, and I even have a limited edition Hanak reel. Hope all is well and I look forward to hearing from you on more of my videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I honestly thought this would be a run of the mill "Things you don't need" video. Buy honestly some really well thought out and very true advice. You earned my sub, good sir!
Appreciate the kind words, Jeff, and look forward to hearing from you on my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Love this video and your book. Hope to meet you and thank you in person at the NJ Fly Show. Best JIB
Appreciate the kind words, and hope to see you at the show! I will be presenting, tying, signing books, and teaching a few private classes. Here's a link to all of the fun: flyfishingshow.com/edison-nj/ Tim
Howdy Tim., I disagreed I am lost without my fish pond tech vest. I have tried Fannypack style packs. Just did not work for me . (To each his own)… Dave Whitlock trout and their food great recommendation. another good book for me was Paul Weamers The bug book. and Charles Meck pa hatches Peace and happy new year😊
I'm in the same boat, I've tried chest packs and sling packs and don't like them. I'm okay with lumbar packs, but I prefer to have everything in front of me. Got the fishpond ridgeline tech vest for christmas this year and love it as i'm able to roll vest only for anything close to the car, or vest and pack when hiking into an area. I grew up fishing in a vest and it's what I prefer.
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Hi Fudd, I'm happy you found a vest that works for you! Re: the hip packs, I use them, but don't love them. To be completely honest, there is not one pack that I've ever said: This is the 1! I hope someday that one will just magically appear. The Bug Book is an excellent one, and I will have to look for the Meck book...it's been awhile since I've seen that one and need to look it over again. Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I started with a old yellow fiberglass eagle claw rod and reel combo in the last 60s are early 70s. As different technologies were developed If I could afford it I would give it a try. Never meet a fish that really cared about what kind of rod caught him. I bought my last rod of my life about 7 months ago. I am proud to say in my opinion it is the best I've ever used. IT combines old timey feel with new age actions. I really like my R L. Winston air 2. I have enjoyed fishing with all the different rods, some were very good others not so much. But I had fun with them all.
Hi Gary, thanks for taking a moment to share! I can only imagine how you have seen fly fishing transform over the years, and the gist is still the same: We're out there having fun and trying to catch some fish! Winston makes an incredible rod and I'm glad you've found the right one for you. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I never had any Joy fishing a Royal Wolff, but I live in Windy Wellington in New Zealand and fish when the Wind Blows, Rivers here run North to South so the Wind is in your Face or your Back, hard in wind for as a Lefty. So just love fishing Southern Argentina like Jurassic Lake.
If we never fished in the wind, few of us would fly fish! I host yearly trips to Iceland and it seems like the wind is ALWAYS blowing. Does it make the fly fishing difficult? Absolutely! But it is just part of the sport. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
The parachute adams is one of my confidence flies. I get what you are saying thou. I don’t use an elk hair caddis much, I prefer the x-caddis. Where I fish in the driftless, it works better for me. I have the same experience with it in Michigan. I like the way it sits lower on the water’s surface, it leaves a different impression on the water. Your mileage may vary. Everyone’s confidence flies are their own. You do you. For me I’ll use the Adams. And I love fishing it where it was originated. Somehow it feels right fishing it on the Boardman River.
Thanks so much, Paul, I connected with "you do you" so much, which was part of the point of this video. We each have the things we resonate with, and should stick with them...but it's never a bad idea to keep an open mind based on what others have success with. Oh, the X-Caddis, easily one of my favorites, too! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa yep I do believe that “you do you” are words to live by. I have been fly fishing around forty years and have some very good fishing buddies, that might be a little stubborn. They will put on a dry fly declaring they are going to catch a fish on top. Not every day will be a good dry fly day. Sometimes you just miss the window that the hatch occurs, it happens. Anyways I’ll put on a nymph rig and catch fish, they will mutter under their breath. Like somehow I am cheating or doing something wrong. I go fishing to catch fish, somehow they forget the fish have a say. If you want to chase the skunk home, go ahead you do you. I’ve won more bets that way. Just take what the day gives you.
Gotta love fishing buddies. The one thing never to be without.
Tim... enjoyed your video... one thing I DON'T NEED are the haters... I respect and appreciate your opinion... I don't have to agree with all of them... but, you have a right to them and I respect your willingness to express them on this venue... I got into fly fishing about ten years ago... and I'm obsessed... but have so much to learn and I enjoy watching RUclips fly fishing videos to learn from others better than me... I have to admit, I do like the expensive rods... and buy way more than I'll ever need... Hardy, Burkheimer, T&T and Winston are my go-to's... but, I apparently don't catch more fish with them... as for reels, Hardy is my go-to... love them... gonna' be in England next week and taking a trip up to Alnwick to visit the Hardy museum and store! I'm gonna subscribe to your videos and look forward to watching more.
Thanks for the kind words, Roger, and as I love to say, "Calm down, this is fishing we're talking about!" ;-) Expensive rods, I know exactly what you mean, I also love some high-end reels...especially the pretty ones! Hope your trip to the Hardy Museum is awesome, take lots of pics! Thanks again for taking a moment to share. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I started with a garage sale fly rod and reel, I later learn the Fenwick rod with a pfluger reel. Alot of people see fly fishing as a exIpensive sport. In Calif. the weather make it so wet wading is preferred over waders. There are alot of quality rods and reels for a variety of fish. Most of my set-ups are $125-$160 in value. My money is mostly spent on quality used lines. Friends of mine buy lines for that once in a life time trip (they taken 10 times) then they dumped the lines or sale.
Thanks for sharing, William, and fly fishing (like many other sports) is only as expensive as you make it. Like you, I value a quality fly line. Appreciate the thoughts! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I have gone to a Vest/Pack system by Fishpond. The Ridgeline Tech pack comes with the Sagebrush Pro Vest. I have used a vest for over 15 years before converting to a chest pack a few years ago. I am back to the Vest again. Mainly because vests have become more versatile. I am more organized with my vest, but I still use a chestpack when I am solely Euronymphing. The Fishpond system allows me to keep the backpack, but switch out the vest and chest pack. All that said, if I know where I am going and exactly what I am going to be fishing, I just take my lanyard and spool of tippet. I have the most fun with a 3wt Fiberglass and small box of dries and little droppers in late spring just wet wading my way down the stream.
Hi Matt, thanks for sharing your system with all of us, and I like the ability it gives you to switch between packs. This summer, Tom Rosenbauer and I chased brook trout in Vermont, taking turns casting a 3 weight bamboo with nothing more than some tippet and a few flies...so much fun! I don't have a 3-weight fiberglass, but you're making me want one. Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I was fly fishing in a snow storm the other day. The rainbows were taking my hopper off the surface, it was great. I only had one take my dropped.
Awesome, Jeramy, what a fun day! Thanks for sharing. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
(I'm the Hubby, Harry} Ha.... I just came across a section in a current book and hit upon the #1 recommendation.... The parachute Adams. Well I've been fly fishing for about 7 years and carried the Adams but I think I have used it about, 4 times. Perhaps the size was not accurate but I found it less favorable to an elk hair caddis. I tend to drift to the BH Prince Nymph as my go to. Stiff wind I head for the trees. Vests, I bought a new one last fall and I am about to pack it for my next run to eastern Iowa. I carry a lot of STUFF cuz when I go, I GO. I will start about 9 AM and end at sundown and dodge the whitetails on the way back to camp or the motel depending on conditions. Keep up the positive videos I'll be back.
Thanks for taking a moment to comment and thanks for sharing your experiences! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I own a Orvis Blackout Euro Rod, Why because Just to Own One but I Love using it. My favourite Fly Rod is an Original Orvis 7pc 6 at Travel Rod before the Upgrade to Clearwater Blanks in 2012, just Love fishing on Home Waters in New Zealand and in Argentina Spring Creeks and just bought a Last of the same rod ( Clearwater model) in a Stock Clearance Black Friday Sale as a Backup, a lot of internet searching. Love both both Rods.
Glad you found some good ones, Warren! Do you primarily fish for trout? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Mainly Trout, but have TFO Bluewater Rods for Saltwater Fishing which I have taken up here in New Zealand, Australia Saltwater fishing in Western Australia plus Tarpon in Costa Rica.
I use to fish a parachute Adams a lot, but does everyone else. I have gone back to a Royal Wulff and catch just as many or even more. Plus, the Wulff will suspend heavier nymphs and easier for my old man eyes to see. Although they are a little more difficult to tie.
Hi Jeff, and thanks for sharing. Both flies definitely have their place. I opt for the parachute style in medium and slower water, especially when flies are emerging. When it comes to fast-moving water with short drifts (or suspending other flies), the Wulff series is a great choice! Hope all is well and happy new year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I tried everything too and ultimately settled on the vest. For summer fishing while wet wading a fanny/hip pack gets it done. Book reco: Serious Flyfishing by John Waite
Thanks for sharing, Mark, and I'm glad you found a vest that works for you! That book is one I've yet to read, thus I look forward to checking it out. Thanks again and I look forward to hearing more from you on my channel. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I went back to wearing vest a year ago when fishing for smaller fish. It works great having everything in front of me and easy to access. If I’m expecting bigger fish then the vest does get in the way.
Thanks for sharing, Thomas, and glad to hear you've got a system that works for you! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
1) Pyramid Lake, NV: fly fish on windy days is common, just use a 7 or 8 wt and catch LCT all day long. 2) Love Parachute Adam, amazing fly that’s easy to see and floats well and catches wild and stocked trout everywhere
Thanks for sharing, Michael. If I make a trip to Pyramid, there's no wind the wind is stopping me...but that doesn't mean I'll like it! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
If your not fishing the wind your loosing great opportunities. There are fewer people out and larger fish will tend to be not as shy with windy conditions. Learning to adjust your body to get the right cast in the wind is key. Some waters fish best with wind specially in lakes. Agree sling pack all the way. Adams is a great place for beginners to start dry fly fishing since it replicated many mayflies on the water.
I agree 100% Dana, as I fish saltwater, host trips to Iceland, and spend weeks in the US west every year. One of my largest browns a couple years ago was caught casting into a wind that had gusts up to 50 mph. But I stand by my words...I'll take a gentle snow or light drizzle over wind any day of the week! ;-) Thanks for the comments and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Informative and a lot of truth.
Thanks so much, Louie, and it's based largely on my own experiences and opinion. Any things in fly fishing you'd like to get rid of? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa Thank you Tim this is a complicated game we all play and I find information that is helpful from many of you that have RUclips channels. Use what works and save what me seem not so useful for the it becomes useful. Years ago when started dabbling in it I thought what have I got myself into! Now I just RUclips it problem solved, catastrophe averted 😂
No fly fishing in the wind is not fun especially trying to maintain a drift on moving water. But some wind when it comes to stillwaters can be very helpful. I have not avoided fishing a stillwater very often no matter how windy, on a river I totally have.
We're on the same page, Deb...it's not fun at all! But, like you, still gotta get out there and grind. ;-) Thanks for sharing, as always, and I hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I’ll be sure to add your hashtag once I’m back in the River this year. Thanks for the book recommendation too.
You're welcome, and I look forward to seeing your posts! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I love the wind.That usually puts me mostly alone where I fly fish.Quite a number of friends whom I fish with balk at the wind and not fish very long or not at all.Throw in the elements like temp.,rain,snow,etc. I usually do much better.Also the biting bugs are less too.
Hi Bob, and you are 100% correct when it comes to less mosquitoes or gnats! I just returned from Iceland and the wind definitely kept them away. Thanks for the thoughts. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Got away from vests because i carried more then i needed.
Unfortunately when u fish out west, u adapt to the wind real quick. Like it or mostly not. Drop a line weight or 2 and u have less surface area and friction with the wind.
My fly that i dont have alot of confidence is a hares ear. It is a great pattern. Easy to tie. Durable. Many swear by it. I do love me hares ear soft hackles
The parachute adams does have its time and place like many flies. Ive changed colors n sizes to cover multiple hatches. We all have that one fly.
I started with a 20 dollar kunnan kmart special as a graduation gift in 87. Caught many fish till i upgraded.
I don't need it, but I choose a vest over a bag! Just my preference :)
Also, I'll never fish a parachute adams again, but please never take away my elk hair caddis!!!
Thanks for the comments, and glad you found a vest that works for you. In fast water, I LOVE the Elk Hair, but slower water, I have a few other favorites. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Well I am batting .800. On the coast we just have to live with wind. Just go to the right spot... As for being an entomologist, back bay eat shrimp. I carry three patterns and use one...a shrimp pattern. The biggest redfish I ever caught ( 26" fatty) was on a $39.00 Amazon generic flyrod. Great video! Thank you!
Nice percentage, Ross! And I'd love to see a picture of that redfish, shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks, and look forward to hearing from you on more of my videos. Tim
i'd give a lot for one of the 9' fiberglass rods I had years ago. They all disappeared in various moves but man they felt nice. Cost nothing at the time too.
Hi Hal, I still have a few of the old fiberglass rods, a Fenwick and a Phillipson, and they are fun to take out every now and then. I don't think either is a 9' rod, mine are all under 8'...at least I think so! I am sure that if you check eBay, you may be able to find them and relive those days. Thanks for sharing. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
On entomology... I’d argue that’s the fun of it. Being a fly fisherman means you are more in tune with the environment over say, throwing a worm and weight with an ultralight. Reading the water... the pressure, the flora, the wind... and yes, the hatch.
Hi Zeb, and entomology is something I embrace, just not so much that I'm reciting Latin on the water. One of my favorite videos was when entomologist Matt Green and I did a stream sample, view Part 1 here: ruclips.net/video/kLjFtBjvLLI/видео.html Thanks! Tim
I've tried everything and always end up going to the chest pack. Umpqua I think is what I have now with a small backpack. If I'm going to hike a lot, I have a backpacking designed for snowboarding that I really like 🤷♂️ everyone likes the slings but i got annoyed with it. Maybe I should give it more time.
Hi Joe, one of my early "favorite" vests was a Filson chest pack, and since then, I've owned a few others. I'm glad you found ones that fits your fly fishing! When it comes to the slings, I seriously had a list of a dozen that I spent time trying on and wearing at fly shops, shows, etc. The crazy thing is that I still have yet to find the perfect pack...someday! Thanks for taking a moment to share. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I caught a 3lb crappie in 25 mph wind on a Mayers mini leech jig. Sometimes the things you don't need are the most fun though. A bluegill gurgler isn't a great trout fly, but catching trout on a popper is one of the most exhilarating things ever.
That sounds like a legit fish, Will, especially in the wind on that fly! You gotta send me a pic if you have one! tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks for the comment and I hope all is well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa I no longer have a picture unfortunately, but that mini leech absolutely slays crappies, so it could happen again, and if it does, I'll send you a picture.
My wife has a brown sling bag , it's called a Purse. Dad has a hip pack , it's called a fanny pack. I have the same Woolrich fishing vest I bought in '94/5 for 10$ . I have a chest pack ,got It way before any fly fishing company made one. Plano tackle box company, $ 9.95 . Two years later Orvis had one for $65 . Marketing Dept is strong .
Hi Mr. Negative, thanks for your thoughts, and that's the beauty of fly fishing: We each get to choose our own path. Glad your stuff is working for you! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Tim, I agree on the Parachute Adams....but not the Adams necessarily. I would take it a step further....parachute patterns as a whole. I don't tie them, never fish them. LOL
Thanks for sharing, Ralph, and you did take it one step further! For fish in a delicate water situation, I will choose a parachute fly occasionally. What's your go-to dry fly for a rising trout in soft water? Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Tim, I fish the LTD to start and occasionally a thorax or comparadun.
Good stuff!
Thanks so much for the kind words, and I hope all is well with you! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I'm sticking with my vest. It just flat out works better at organizing my things and keeping the things I need immediately at hand than any pack does.
Absolutely, Jeff, especially if you've found one that works well for you. Which one have you found that you prefer? Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
100% agree. a vest is one of the best items I have when fly fishing
I like your stuff Tim. I agree with some points (vest, going minimal), disagree with others (Adams, wind), but in the end, it's a click-bait video designed to garner views (got me!).
Hi Ron, and thanks for taking a moment to comment. So we're on the same page, every video I make is designed to get views, as I like to share my experiences, thoughts, and ideas to educate and entertain others when it comes to fly fishing. There is a steep learning curve in our sport, and I want to help others overcome it. I hope another takeaway for you is that no matter your opinion of if we agree or disagree, we each can appreciate the sport and understand that everyone is allowed (and encouraged) to take their own path. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I wear a pack too, my favorite rods are reddington vice and echo base although I have some sage and my two hand is g loomis. My switch rod is a max catch and I have caught max on it. Stimulator, bomber, and stones are in my box
Thanks for sharing, Reelman! A switch rod is something I Have limited experience with, do you use yours for a specific species, i.e. trout? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa Yes I use it a lot for Bull trout but have used it for Salmon as well, I run a scandi versi tip setup on it. I like the switch rod as it can cover a lot of water on medium sized rivers, mine is a 11' no 7.
I feel like most start with either the adams or elk hair caddis as their go-to dry. I was in the adams camp for the first 3 or so years and still never really fish a caddis. My current confidence fly is a softshoe emerger.
Things you don't need are every fly under the sun. I tie now so I just have 3 or 4 patterns and just change dubbing color and size. There's no rule saying you need all the different hackle colors and I doubt the fish mind.
Hi Thomas, thanks for sharing...and the emerger is a killer one! You and I are on the same page, as I try to bring as few flies on the water as possible. But, as you know, some days it's easier said than done. :-) Thanks for the comments and I hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I was using a back pack before I bought my first vest.
This is the wonderful thing about fly fishing: We each get to choose our own path! I'm glad to know you've found something that works for you. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You can always swing a fly skagit style if the wind is messing up your drifts.
Hi Durvesh, that's a style I don't use often. Are you able to send a recommended video so I can learn more about it? I have a little experience with two-handed rods...and hope to improve in the future. Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa ,
I was referring to single hand Skagit casting ,Opst makes nice shooting heads starting at 150gr which can be used on your 3wt ESN rods , you can just load your reel with LAZAR line as the monorig + a micro leader while nymphing upstream.Then stip off the microleader and put on a commando head on your way back with a downstream presentation.
Here is a decent video on the same, OPST has great videos on how to skagit cast as well.
Check their playlist on the same.
Its a game changer for summer fishing specially for bass , brook trout love a swung fly
ruclips.net/video/z5OmMYOY9iE/видео.html
@@TimCammisa ,
here is a playlist on some tips,
ruclips.net/p/PLsmlvALJg9j1MMRI7-H0cpm9UOezAdXSB
Tim you may not need the parachute Adam’s but you definitely need the Renegade fly!
Hell yeah. One of the best. As long as it's not hung up in the brush, you're catching fish.
Another great video. I agree you get what you pay for in a rod. As for reels, I think its like reinventing the wheel. And as for the parachute Adams, I'll take a Grey bodied deer hair winged comparadun over that any day
Hi J.R., and that Comparadun is an absolute winner in my book! In larger sizes, I fish it as a Slate Drake...the fish seem to love it, too. ;-) Hope all is well and I appreciate the kind words. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Luv my vest.
I am 70 years old. I like my vest, It's a lot easier for me to get to the stuff I need to get to. I enjoy tying a lot of different patterns, but I fish just a few of the old catskills types of drys, nymphs the water decides what I fish. I have mabey 3 size tippet. A good assortment of weights. .
Hi Gary, you and my Uncle John would get along great, he loves to tie the Catskill flies! In fact, I had him on my channel years ago...to tie the Adams! Here's a link to watch that one: ruclips.net/video/pWPfwKvT_68/видео.html Thanks again for taking a moment to comment, and I hope you have a great 2023 on the water. Tim
I just bought a Orvis Helos 3F for half price! Brand new. And you can tell the difference.
What a great deal, Jerry, glad you're enjoying the rod! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You forgot, GoPro and drone . I like the wind advice now people might not come to Montana :-)
Sorry, Mike, EVERYONE is in Montana now...and they have their GoPro and drone with them! ;-) Hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa I know I live in Ennis :-(
Next time it’s windy, I’ll just dump the wind! Great recommendation
Hi Cameron, thanks for taking a moment to share. The wind is part of the outdoors, no doubt there. We fish in it all of the time; my yearly fishing includes Iceland, the western US, and open lakes...the wind is part of the game in all three! But give me a choice between a light drizzle, snow, or the wind, then you know which two I prefer! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa For a video with "dump this stuff" as the thumbnail, you have to admit the suggestion to dump the wind is pretty goofy. Thanks for replying (:
Here in New Zealand we have a book called The Trout Larder.
That sounds like a great read, I'll look for it! Thanks for the recommendation, and I hope to hear from you in more of my videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I can't WAIT to go a get a Parachute Adams.
Don't get just one, Colonel, get as many as your vest can hold! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I have to fish in the wind😂Gotten good at it though. Lots of roll casts or kinda flipping it out and using the water to load the rod. Water haul cast maybe it's called? I dunno, I just do whatever I can make work 😂
We all have to fish in the wind, just part of fly fishing, Joe. A water haul is definitely a cast, and there are lots of little tricks to help the process But if Mother Nature ever asks my opinion, I'll take a light drizzle or even snow over the wind! :-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I use a backpack and keep my working flies in my bib pouch. Really never use more than five flies never bought a fly rod that cost more than 50 bucks. Catch a lot of fish in the wind and bad weather because no one else is out.
Hi Alex, I appreciate you sharing some thoughts re: my list. Now your turn: What can we get rid of in fly fishing? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You don't need a car salesman vibe, fly fishing is a contemplative sport. Also wind can be great, especially for lake fishing. Agree on vests, you've got pockets use them, and anyway far too much junk nowadays with fishing (it's only lining the pockets of companies).
Hi Matt, thanks for taking a moment to share! That's a vibe I didn't know I had, here I just thought it was my enthusiasm towards fly fishing! So if you're in the market for a new truck, I can point you in a good direction. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
The tfo blue ribbon is the best all around rod for under $300
Thanks for suggesting that rod, Jon. There are a couple others I recommend over that one, for the price. If anyone needs a rod suggestion, shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks! Tim
Im sorry., but if you want/need to carry materials, you need to carry them in something. Those things are easier to access in a vest. For a pack, you turn it around, unzip it, find the right compartment, then get into your stuff and put it away (like split shot). With a vest, the 1st 2 steps are eliminated. I do use a sling pack, but only for steelhead, for fishing the sulfur hatch and fishing terrestrials.
You don't have to apologize, Jason. In short, we're fortunate that there are many options for all of us today in fly fishing. I've owned over a dozen vests, and there was only one I would recommend for others. It sounds like you are constantly putting stuff in and out of yours, thus a traditional vest may be a good option. For me, I prefer a clean front with the weight on my back, and keep those small items in my wader pockets. Thanks for taking a moment to share your thoughts on my 5, and I would love to hear 5 things that you would get rid of in fly fishing. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Fly vests kick ass. You can load them how you want to and wear nothing else underneath if ya feel like it. You grab it and you go. Same with a good pair of hip boots, soft hackles/wet flies, a fiberglass fly rod of your choice, Cortland 444 Peach, and a Pflueger Medalist. Sling dinghies, 10 foot no fly line jig lobbers, ketchum release tools, and 1K waders are for milquetoasts.
You had me until you mentioned a Ketchum Release tool. I used one this summer and have not looked back since. Lamson made a good one there! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Also read white hats leaves and pterodactyls by Rick Osborne
Thanks for sharing, Alex, and I'll be sure to check this out! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I've loved flyfishing for about 33 years now and I knew from day-1 that I was NEVER going to wear a vest!
Thanks for sharing! So I'm curious, what do you wear in place of a vest? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa , I probably still take too much stuff, but my go-to most days is a backpack for all the big stuff and a hip-pack for all the small stuff. Plus a lanyard for nippers and clamp.
I actually prefer a sling-pack the most, but for some reason, I haven't replaced my old one for the last couple of seasons.
To each his own though.... "whatever you like" will always be the best option imo.
Cheers!
Well said, and here's to a great 2023 on the water!
You don't need waders either. I haven't worn them in years, just man up & wet wade. Most of the time you should stay out of the water anyway, to avoid spooking the trout. The only time you might need waders is if your really big into Czech nymphing at the beginning or end of season.
I'm not a dry fly guy, most of the time on streams I go for a nymph and start working the closest lies, then further out &/or upstream. While I have many different dries, the good old deer hair caddis seems to get the nod most often. Could just be where I live though.
I agree 100% when it comes to staying out of the water, though when I'm Euro nymphing, I feel that there is a range that I have. That range typically requires the use of waders, especially for many of the medium to larger rivers I fish. Thanks for the comments! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
If you use a slingpack - pack light. Otherwise you will get a crick in your neck. I've done that many times where I pack something to drink, my lunch, a couple of boxes of flies and a spare fly reel... That's a recipe for a headache..
Thanks for the suggestion, Kasper! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I've tried all kinds of packs and have returned to the vest
I have tried so many different vest, slings, and packs, so I know what you mean, Mark! Which vest have you settled on? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Have you ever used a binocular harness to Cary your fly equipment?
Hi Trayson, thanks for checking. I have a harness, thought it's attached to binoculars. How do you use yours? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
name of this video could also be here is all the email and links to my social media.
When it comes to trout fishing I will fight anyone necessary to keep my vest. All other types I go to a sling pack.
Hi C Hardy, no fighting necessary, we're just talking about fishing here. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
The Handbook of Hatches is another great starter book. If you can't fish in the wind, don't come to the Lower Deschutes :) I don't fish normal PAs much, but Purple Haze's are an all-timer.
Hi Wizard, thanks for the book recommendation, I'll be sure to look for it! And wind is wind, it's part of fly fishing...just a part I could do without. Thanks again and look forward to hearing more from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa On the Deschutes we superstitiously won't even say the word "wind", we just mutter about "The W" in cantankerous tones. I've had it blow my drift boat upriver. It gets worse in steelhead season as summer turns to fall, but casting spey rods with skagit heads using downstream anchors and a downstream wind can make a dentist from Vermont feel like he's Ed Ward chucking 80 footers with ease 🤣
I’ve done it once wading and it was incredibly hard. The wind, the lack of shallow places to wade and swift water
The problem with sling packs is where to put your net, it always gets in the way when you swing the pack around, what do you do?
Hi Philip, I have my net attached to a d-ring. It did take some time to get used to it, but having everything out of the way was a tradeoff that made it work for me. The key is when "slinging" the pack, do so intentionally...but not too quick! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa Tim that’s where I’m at as well, just find it irritating, in the water it’s not so bad as it’s a small net, when we have to fish from the bank a heavier long handled net is needed, so I end up with a vest or chest pack, I hoped you had a genius idea, thanks for the reply
What's this Parachute Adams of which you speak. Is it some sort of new paratrooper. Just kidding buddy, I know what one is, heck I may even have a couple of them in a fly box somewhere. I do however need to disagree with you regarding vests for me personally. Why? I bought 5 of them for $20 at a garage sale so I have a lifetime supply and will never have to spend another penny on a vest, sling pack, backpack or any other contraption to carry fishing stuff with me. Keep the good stuff coming buddy.
Hey Johnny, thanks for commenting! That sounds like a killer garage sale...did they have any bamboo rods for sale?!? ;-) I hope all is well with you. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa No, they had a little other stuff which I bought for I think another $20 but it included a new in the box fly line, I think a 5 or 6 wt.
I use a claymore bag. It’s still together after 30 years
Solid bag, Josh, and love the OD color! claymore bag
vests are way better than packs tried them all you end up taking way to much gear to the river that you dont need so you ruined your own point there !! also you dont have to get a vest with 3000 pockets its just nice to have everything where you can get to it
Thanks for the comments, and as mentioned, this is my list. ;-) When it comes to a backpack, I have some specific gear that I carry when I have it on, including a camera and tripod for making videos on the water (like this one!). Now back to the point of the video: What are some things in fly fishing that you don't think are needed? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa well i agree you dont need a lot of flys i mainly fish for salmon here in scotland and you only really need about 5/6 patterns for the whole season so ive never got more that 25/30 flys on me along with some tippet,forceps,sink tips and a net and thats all i really need ! for trout same again with the addition of gink and some drys i don't really do the whole indicator and nymphs thing not many people do here so that's pretty much all i carry on the river tim but i do however carry it all in a vest 🤷🏻♂️ anything else is not needed (for me)
I'll keep my vest, it's just too convenient to have things you may need right down to a wad of TP, should the need arise. But to keep the list at 5, I'm going to say strike indicator "bobber". I've never used one, nor do I plan to.
Thanks for your thoughts, Mathew! TP is absolutely an essential on the water...but for me, I'm keeping my strike indicators. However, that's the beauty of fly fishing: We each can choose our own path, "bobber" or not. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You can fly fish in the wind if you get it to your back and just lift your dly line and let the wind do the work for you. Dave Whitlocks' book mentioned is treasure as any if his writings are. He took the Snobbery out of Fly Fishing and brought the Sweet Science to all fishermen. If you don't have a Parachute Adam's in your fly box you must not like Dry Fly Fishing! 90%of what a fish eats is below surface anyways.
Thanks so much for the comments, Daniel, and you're right: I don't like dry fly fishing...I love it! ;-) Look forward to hearing from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I'd like to suggest that if there is wind, rain, snow, heat, sun or the slightest humidity that fly fishers go home and read books about fly fishing because I'm tired of the new "River Through It" surge in the sport. Once was enough for me. lol
Hi JJ, great suggestion, especially with snow and rain! When it comes to new fly fishers, let's welcome them to the sport...and just hope they don't take our favorite fishing spots. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa I like how you handled my old, grumpy self, Tim. You're a good dude.
OK - I only fish with fast sinking lines bcz of the water I fish, but I have never not been able to fish bcz of the wind. Fast sinking lines cut through wind like knives through Jello. AND - you more or less always have the best spots 100% for your self, without it having been disturbed by others, and the surface is impossible for the fish to see through, so you can practicly stand withing a rods length of them. I loooove fishing crazy stormy weather, as long as my fingers are freezing off, and once you've mastered that, everything else feels like stealing candy from babies. And bcz of discuprolapses I can't wear "anything" on my sholders, so I've reduced my needs to a waist bag. And - for those who might have the same problem - I can't fish with even the lightest single hand rod, but a two hand rod makes me use both sides of my back, and I actually have less problems, the days I get a few hours, than they days I don't fish at all. Compare a smal SH to a big DH by imagining digging a garden with a spoon or a spade. Enjoy.
Lots to unpack here, Borge, thanks for taking the time to share! The sinking lines are a great options, especially when they're able to be used. One of my favorite lakes in the world also tends to have some of the craziest winds...but the fish (and lake) are shallow. In other situations, that is a great idea! You mention a waist bag, is there one you prefer? There are a couple waterproof options I've seen, but they tend to be one big opening, and all of my gear inside gets tossed around. Finally, the DH rod...I'm jealous! I don't have lots of experience with them, but when chasing sea run brown trout this year, I took some time with them, and they are tough to cast! I am looking forward to learning more and can't wait to see what fun they bring. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa About the rods - if you are good at casting, fast rods are absolutly the best, bcz with a fast stiff rod, you can use short fast moves, and still load the rod. I had flied for years, before I ever saw a video, and only met one guy at "my" river (Gudenåen - Denmark) so I wasted a lot of time, also fishing with floating lines (never even rised a fish) but I have "invented" a cast, that I've never seen others use - you win some, you lose some by being "a loner".. And always shooting heads. Danish guy Henrik Mortensen is worth YTing, and the old guy Gøran Anderson - he was "my" teacher - from a book.. Unlike many teachers he explained the mechanics of things, and it was from his book I fell over: "people learn faster when they understand, what is going on". That is so true. He's called "The Wizzard from Gjævle". There are a few YT vids with him, but far from "enough". The year I started to fish fly, I caught a sea trout or salmon every 6 hours on spin/worm - and I used over 50 hours on each possible take. But once I "wasted" money on the faaast sinking lines, things started to happen. My best season gave me 8 - 83 cm 16 pds, 81 and 79 as the largest. Since then I haven't been "desperat". I often use foam flies to avoid hooking the bottom, before the line has cut through the current. And - I haven seen it used around the world - the most productive fly around here is "Uldsokken" (wool sock) - a very boring fly, that I don't like, but many get 80%+ of there fish on it. The biggest fish in Gudenåen have been 45ish pounds, so I never fished less than 25ish pound leaders.
Vest is best
Good idea not mention not needing the parachute adams first, I woulda stopped. Parachute Adams and Stimulator are only dries you need.
I'm glad you didn't stop, Will, and the Stimulator is another fly I rarely use! That's the beauty of fly fishing, we each get to choose our own path. I appreciate you taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I guess I should give up fishing the flats for bones and permit.
Never, Gary! The wind is something we learn to deal with. I host a yearly fly fishing trip to Iceland, and the wind is a way of life there. Love it or hate it, it matters so much, especially with saltwater. But I still love those moments fly fishing when it dies down, if only for 30 seconds! :-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I like my vest
Awesome, Denny, I'm glad you found a vest that works for you! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
#1 you don’t need a RUclips video telling you what you do or do not need!
What about your other 4 things to get rid of? ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Well, being 40+ the first thing you need to drop is that backward hat. Then focus on fly fishing
HA HA HA, sounds like that made your list, but I didn't see it anywhere on mine. ;-) What else is not needed? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Im going to politely disagree with the vest being an item i dont need. Fishing is time management, vest allow quicker access, carry more items, and allow you to keep a spot on a steelhead drift longer. You move...you lose your spot. Vests also distribute weight on your shoulders and back better, again allowing you to maintain a spot on drift longer without a break on shore. I use a sling when I am fishing w spinners and spoons ... mostly because the larger boxes for the lures dont fit well in a vest. I can make it work but wind up spending alot of time fumbling w boxes- the sling pack wins in terms of quicker easier lure changes.
Lastly a vest allows me to ford deeper water if i have to, the height at which a sling pack is comfy is below my hip. Crossing a deeper channel means the pack is either carried above the water in my hand- or gets a full dunk possibly pulling me off course as it gets ripped by the 4000-8000 cfs current on thw river i primarily fish.
My vest is economical as well...I purchased it for 26.00 its a velcropocket wonder from Asia
Hi Jason, and thanks for sharing your own ideas re: a vest. It's great to know that you've find an option that works for you based on the types of places you fish. For me, a backpack or sling works better based on my personal fly fishing. That's the best part of fishing: We each get to choose our own paths! Appreciate the comments. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
It's up to me? I'll wear a vest.
That's the beauty of fly fishing, Jason, it is up to you! I'm glad you have a vest that works well for you, which one do you prefer? Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa I have a redington, don't remember anymore than that. But with a magnet I can hang my net on the back of my vest. Im differently a vest guy. Enjoy your channel Tim.
I like your enthusiasm Tim but the list was a bit weak. We don't need to know all those knots either. Clinch, loop, blood and nail are my staples. I will definitely check out your other content.
Hi Mike, thanks for the kind words re: enthusiasm, as I love all things fly fishing and fly tying. When it comes to this type of video, I need to keep things moving, especially by noting typical things that most use...yet I don't. Some have called this controversial; instead, this is based on my experiences and personal preferences fly fishing for over 30 years. That's why I encourage others to share their own things that we don't need, and I appreciate you sharing knots! Thanks for checking out some of my other videos, and I look forward to hearing more from you on my channel. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Caddis...Griffith Gnat...
The Griffith's Gnat is definitely a top fly, thanks for sharing! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
So how do you decide what you're going to use? I would often change areas. Tim honestly you mean well but I have fished in 100kmh winds. You learn how to adapt out there or you don't go fishing. It's that simple when you are out there. I learned on the peace River, if you tried waiting for no wind days, you just won't go. Parachute Adams are a pain. I fish the yellow Humpy to #16 it floats every bit as well. We can agree to disagree on rods. I will not spend more than $500 on a fly rod. Quite often less. But this is where ",Each to their own,," comes into play.
Hi Kerry, and the highest winds I've fished in were 50mph...and I caught my largest brown of the year that day! But was it really fun casting into a 50 mph wind? Of course not, I'll take snow any day of the week...but I still am out fly fishing as many days I can. Do we disagree on rods? The point of the video is that you don't need big $$$ rods, but like you said, everyone is entitled to whatever they prefer, that's the beauty of this sport. Hope all is well and I appreciate your thoughts, as always. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
We don’t need controversies!
It’s a fly .
If so many people use it it’s because it’s good
What we don’t need is coffee.
Coffee is diuretic,you may miss a fish of a life time while you fiddle with your fly
Hi Yves, nothing controversial, just some thoughts based on my personal experiences. But coffee, that's a must-have for me...though I love what you did there! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Why do you wear your cap the wrong way round?
So more importantly, what things in fly fishing could you do without? I'm guessing a backwards hat may top your list! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
also dont need a $400 clipper from able
You're correct, absolutely not needed...but those painted ones were so darn pretty!! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa yes agree lol.. i get the reels its nice and work of art but the clippers are are asking for way too much lol dont mind getting a sds custom reel id paid for that but 400 bucks for a clipper id take that fund to spend on a nice reel from able and call it a day and be set for life with a nice reel
Another thing that isn’t needed is an elitist attitude. Fly fishermen and women already get a bad reputation for being uppity. Treating others badly just reinforces that stereotype. Be kind. Talk to others even if they are not fly fishing. See how they are doing and wish them good luck. Don’t act like you are better than anyone else because you have a $900 Sage fly rod and they are fishing with a push button Zebco.
Couldn't agree with you more, Ron, and glad to know we're on the same page with this one. Thanks for taking a moment to share! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa we are like minded which is one of the many reasons I enjoy your videos. Wish everyone was the same in and out of our sport.
I don't disagree with anything he said. 😳
Thanks so much, but more so, what else do you think needs cut from fly fishing? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Not fishing in the wind is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Having a nice double haul can help you cast into the wind. You just have to be patient and make it happen.
Thanks for the comment, Flycurious, and let's get on the same page: The wind and fly fishing have to coexist. I host trips to Iceland, fish out west, and spend many days on open lakes...these are all part of my yearly fishing, and the wind is present in all. When it comes to saltwater, it's even necessary at times. But give me a choice between a light drizzle, snow, or heavy wind, I'm going to pick the first two every time. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I feel the same way about a wooly bugger! I don't recall a fish I ever caught on one, so I have zero confidence in them. I know it is one of the most popular flies out there in my warm water world, but I do fine without them.
Thanks for the comment, Tim, and many people contact me about the Mop fly. No confidence = no fish. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Silly needless video....and I like my backpack fly vest.....
Thanks for the thoughts, Neil...and here I thought you'd comment about my backwards hat! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com