Let's make low profile side clamps!
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2020
- This episode on Blondihacks, I'm designing and making low-profile side clamps for my mill table! Exclusive videos, drawings, models & plans available on Patreon!
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Your videos are hands down THE MOST concise and informative ones on the net! Your added humor, conscientious edits for brevity, and sharing your thoughts are SPOT ON! Thanks and KUDOS!
Hey everyone- two things:
1) Since shooting this, I have used these clamps in some very heavy cuts on steel, and they held up great! Rock solid. So I can recommend this design or a similar one.
2) Some videos result in 100 people asking the same one or two questions and I can’t answer them all. If I delete your question, it is because I have answered it further down and want other people to be able to find the answer easier. Thanks for watching!
Update, because the above didn’t stop everyone from asking the same question:
The reason I didn’t cut the slots with a slitting saw is that (a) I didn’t have one the right size, and (b) milling these was a lot faster than all the extra setup would have been for the saw. It really didn’t take long- these are tiny slots. My storytelling prose oversold the time spent in the video, I guess.
You borrowed one of AvE's eggcorrns - _"flexture"_ - thereby creating a perfectly cromulent creole word for a fixture that flexes. Always the pedant, I will point out those in the business call this feature a flexure.
@@peteroleary9447 I would bet money she got flexture from robin renzetti.
@@tnekkc How much money? Lol. Watch Robrenz video titled ULTRA PRECISION REPEAT O METER. He makes several references to the flexure joint. He pronounces it /ˈflekSHər/. Robrenz is the real deal.
Another RUclipsr, AvE has made a few videos involving flexures. He always pronounces it /ˈflekSTir/. He's a master malpropist and mondegreen merchant. Keep yer stick on the ice.
@@peteroleary9447 LOL that isn't AvE's word, it isn't robin's word, it is an industry standard word that has been around LOOKING before either one of them. It's crazy how many words get attributed to AvE that he didn't come up with. (Most of the words he uses were around long before he was even born.)
@@xenonramNot sure what you're saying. I'm saying that flexure is a word and flexture is not. Still, language evolves, sometimes overnight. From now henceforth, I declare the word flexure and the non-word flexture to be archaic. The new words shall be fxlzbretu and fztrbekzx respectively.
Really appreciate the metric reference you give in the video.
The beauty of these is that they are easily scaleable. Everything from 4mm high, using a 3mm grub screw, up to where the mill table groans in protest.
Meow and an affectionate caress to Sprocket.
I've been in engineering all my life initially in a radiochemical lab producing and repairing small moulds then I moved on to the sales side working for a distributor, supplying tooling, consumables and equipment. I've learnt so much over the years dealing with everything from Railway Wheel turning to Instrument work and special purpose machines. I have to say I've learnt as much detail from your videos as I have over the last 50 years, well done and thanks.
Love the metric call outs!
Thanks - I'm just moving from never having a vise to having a vise, but even with always using clamps on all my work, Harold's holders are still on my list and yet to be started
I have a set of 6 “ Mitutoyo Diamond verniers that I bought in 1970. They still are my go to measuring stick when tolerances allow. I have scribed untold number of lines with them and many times without bluing. So I agree with you that this is OK. If they still work after 50 years and many resharpenings, I say to those who protest “get a life!”
man learned so much in depth tutorial! learned about cutting speed (which no one talks about when cutting steel), learned about bluing and wanted to learn about quill stop.... thanks so much I legit was impressed with this vid!
Every week I look forward to Saturday evenings ( UK time) to your entertaining , informative and humorous channel .tonights episode another useful workshop item please keep them coming.
Thank you for the kind words! 😃
I waited a little bit to watch this. I would not have thought that tools of this type were so handy and useful, but the demonstration at the end proved the point. Fascinating stuff. Many thanks!
I love how you explain every step, just awesome.
Thanks Quinn! So glad you chose this project. I'd love to explore a DIY alternative to the expensive commercial mini-clamps from the "usual suspects." Now I have a solid example as a final project or as something to adapt for whatever needs arise.
Since I converted my mill to CNC I use my big low profile clamps even more regulary I build my ones after this old Tony about 1,5 years ago and they work perfect some projects would have been impossible without them.
I like the style you shot your videos and the easy going when you talk 😁
Man I love Saturdays now. Thanks for the channel Quinn .
Thank you for watching, and for the kind comment! 😀
Useful addition to the shop, great vlog Quinn.
Thanks for sharing and stay safe all.
Thank you for the captions with the metric values!
Beautiful work. Thank you for taking the time to record, edit and share.
Cheers
I greatly appreciate you listing links to all the products you use on your projects. It makes it so easy to find them to purchase for my hobby machine shop. Thank you, and I enjoy your videos.
Don from Oregon
I'd like to place an order for 1,000 cases... what a neat idea Quinn, and I could use those right now! Greg Priest of Priest Tools is a really helpful and nice guy. On my LMS mill, over time I've added every accessory he makes and they really transformed my bench mill into a super functional tool. I can't recommend him or his products enough. For those that haven't heard of him, he does upgrade kits for Precision Matthews, LittleMachineShop, Grizzly, and perhaps others as well.
Nice lil build. Love the testing idea of the amount of flex using the screwdriver and indicator
Well done Quinn this clamp look awesome, I can see many uses for them thanks for sharing.
gotta love the "ran out of table travel" slapstick
I like these clamps. Looks like a great project for a Sunday afternoon. Thanks Quinn!
Great project with super useful results! Definitely on my to-do list now. Thanks!
fantastic work. Enjoying your channel.
So much valuable information, so intelligently delivered. Thanks Blondi.
Definitely on my project list . Always find your vids interesting. Thanks for sharing
U always have a VERY good explanation for why u do things the way you do, good work
When im slotting blade guards and bolsters ive found its best to drill the ends of the slots and mill to them. Makes that sort of tedious narrow slotting a lot easier....these are REALLY cool! Discovered your channel from TOTs project vid...really clear and wonderful stuff! Thank you for sharing!!
Love watching her use that layth. Have learned a lot.
Quinn, another great lesson, thanks.
Ive seen your work on insta and this is the first bh youtube vid, Wow i love that you went through EVERYTHING. lol might get boring after a while but it was really really excellent. well narated and super clear, Thanks
Great design and lovely job, especially milling all those 1/8" slots.
80 manual passes, crazy. I'd pass out of suspense for over shooting just after 10 passes.
10:50... Look at the MILES of clean unobstructed flat open uncluttered workbench... Don't know that I have ever witnessed that before.
I do try to keep the place clean.
@@Blondihacks how!? You must know some magic
@@VoidedWarranty Interdimensional storage is the key. The stuff is on the workbench, just not in this dimension. Works wonders.
@@brianhaygood183 ah inverse timelord. The workshop is bigger on the outside of the storage
@@VoidedWarranty yes. If you aren't careful, your assistant can get trapped in the alternate dimension and you will have to replace her.
Inexplicable urge to have some coffee just over 4/5ths of the way through this vid...
you too, I know what you mean!
I was just thinking about a good cup of coffee, but my mugs just seem boring lately.
Another bad motorsport obsession fan eh?
I'm wondering if that mug would work for beer...
Sweet! I Love the Blued finish.
Thank you for sharing! Very well explained and demonstrated.... Keep up the good work!
I made some slots like this in another project, and also needed a finished slot with rounded back end. However, I found it faster to drill the hole, cut the slot almost to width with bandsaw and then finish with end mill. Quick and clean. Nice clamps !
Nice idea. Many thanks for sharing. I will definitely make a few.
The cup ends of the set screws are made to 'bite' in.
I usually round off the ends of the 'pusher' screws so they are free to slide on the back of the moveable piece.
4:31, I have exactly the same mill as you, Quinn, no doubt under a Canadian dealer name though. I’m currently putting in a ball screw 20M/M threaded rod for the vertical mill head movement, to take out the annoying backlash it has.
15:14 mine had a hokey safety shield with a micro switch inside. It kept stopping my machine by itself, so I promptly stopped that.
Fantastic, gonna make some for myself soon. Thanks Quinn.
I realize the "Q" drill was relevant because of your name, but I immediately jumped to the omnipotent "Q" of Star Trek the Next Generation for some reason! You're not even remotely arrogant or devious as that character but you do have some of his snarky humor :) Great video as always!
Love it! I have been looking to make something like this. Thank you.
je découvre cette chaîne, just amazing ! I know what I'm going to watch tomorrow afternoon, ! great jobs . thank you
This is really cool ill have to pick up some bar steel and make a couple!
Loved the pearl about the round bar against the movable jaw against the unmachined side to prevent the vise from holding out of square!
great job!! I like the way you think and go about your work .
Wow. Patience is your new side handle ... 10 passes per slot! Ya gotta want them bad ... Great job Quinn.
Just found and subbed your channel. Enjoying what I've watched so far and looking forward to seeing your other videos.
I have a small general shop with no mechine tool. But have the intrest. Just retired and decided to venture into this. So, for my retirement gift to myself I decided to start small and ordered a mini mill and mini lathe with tooling to make small parts.
Can't wait.
Now back to learning form your videos and anxiety waiting for a truck in our drive.
That’s great! Congrats on the new venture and thanks for the sub!
Fantastic video. Presentation, and explanation are excellent.
Very nice work and excellent narrative.
I love those little clamps i hve been needing something like this for sometime now. I use a .750 thick steel plate 16" X 6" with .375 tapped holes to hold long parts in the kurt vise ; these will be perfect for that. The only thing I would have different would be to drill a row of undersize holes for the slot to ease the work of the endmill. Thanks for the design idea.
Simply brilliant!
Thanks for the video. Another thing I never knew I needed, but now must have.
What a beautiful idea and presentation. Thankyou
Great project and it resulted in some nice tools.
Just the small note of the little round bar around 3:15ish that's good stuffs. I am thinking of getting a mill in the near future to fiddle with things. Thats a nice little operational tip people might not know!
16:51!!! LOL loving it!
Another options for cutting slots like that is to use plunging of the end mill. Move over 1/3D and do it again. Then one final pass in the slot direction to clean up the sides of the slot. I have found that plunging a slot is often faster for me, and it doesn't have a chip clearing problem.
That’s pretty slick Quinn
I love your design!
Brilliant! :)
Another great video, and definitely my next project😃👌👍
clicked "like" before yuo even got through the credits, either I'm getting faster or you're getting slower LOL and I don't even own a mill.... but you'd be amazed how useful these clamps can be on the lathe faceplate!
Oh, great thought! I hadn’t even considered the faceplate.
Blondihacks it's real handy when you have to do thin flat stuff on the lathe
I just got some material in to make the low profile clamps. I am also using the Harold Hall design clamps but have chosen one of the other style clamps. Enjoyed your video as usual. Thanks for sharing.
He’s got a whole bunch of very clever designs. I almost went with a couple of his!
@@Blondihacks I have the book and I am glad that you said something about the copyright. I would have shot a picture of his plan in my video. Never thought about it. Don't need the YT copyright police banking on my front door.
Quinn , I looked up co planar (in the same plane) thought it mite be a "Quinn- isem" I don't know why I doubt you??? ( others are to afraid to question you ) you really raised the bar on this video , 1) word of the day 2) fantastic animation 3) new tools, a chip guard , and quill stop from Preist Tools ,( let us pray and give thanks ) (sorry I could not let that go ) All joking aside Thank you for taking the time to make these very high quality videos , Pete M
those slots would be a great feature to machine with a rounded profile cutter on a horizontal mill
"And I'm going to use my calipers in a way......" Been a toolmaker for 35yrs and do this all the time. Tell them to get bent, I have never "Ruined" a pair of calipers doing this. I usually drop them or someone helps me with that. Micrometers also make convenient carry handles for pieces of flat stock, so there!
Most of the other guys I watch on these programs somehow put me to sleep, I think maybe it's the voice, but I can stay awake listening to you and you all seem to be talking about the same things
Nice video. It gave me an idea for clamps for my cnc router
Brilliant, as usual!
Great job!
4:32: One of the Great Moments in Video, ladies and gentlemen.
@KarlBunker: Somehow I can't see you making that comment to Mr Pete. Then again, I never saw him make that move 😉
YAY! Quinn-time!!
Yeah I don't miss HSS tools one bit. Moved to carbide on my CNC and it's been so nice
Great video -- always looking for new ideas to hold parts where a milling vise or strap clamps just won't work.
Those are great Quinn!!
Wow.. exactly what I needed. Sick of using those big clamps
Definitely they r.. specially when ur focus is precision in small work
At 12:46 the Four flute endmill is the right choice because you have already machined the center out which the four flute can’t do. The two flute endmill in that size can be a high risk to use on a milling machine you use when drilling, it simply does not have the stability and it can suddenly stuck or flip the part out of the wise.
There is an old song entitled " Veronica" by the Comedy Harmonists who were around in pre-WW2 Germany and all I can say is that it is one of the most wonderful things I have ever heard! I get hairs sticking up and chills all over my body, it stimulates my tear ducts for some reasons too and is an entirely joyous, absorbing experience-try and dig it out on RUclips-your own home-made (?) electronic "Veronica" would appreciate that level of adoration and I hope you "get" the song in the same way as myself. Stay safe and keep the videos coming!
Thanks for the CAD files on patreon, im gonna try to run this on a haas mill and see how it comes out
It will probably hold up better than a HAAS MILL.
I like Mitee bites, they are relatively cheap and easy to use, I would have made a small aluminium fixture and some miter bites for your next project, added benefit is you can drill through the work.
Don’t listen to the haters complaining about using the caliper for scribing lines. I bought a cheap Chinese one almost twenty years ago just for that purpose, so I wouldn’t ruin my good caliper. I use it almost every day, and the points are just like new yet. I don’t know what kind of steel those school kids use to make them, but they really are holding up nicely. I don’t consider that type of caliper as a precision measuring tool anyway. They are handy and great for reference, but there is usually a more precise and reliable way to measure things.
Thanks again for calling a drill a drill instead of a drill bit!
Apparently they are often made of 440C stainless. Hardness probably 52-56 Rockwell C, which is softer than HSS but still pretty hard, comparable to some woodworking tools and kitchen knives.
Nice clamps very small,excellent job!!!
Big thonk. Use the power feed to rough out the sloted area but have it pre drilled with a drill so you only have to make the slot from there.
Nice Job!!
Harold has some like this in his video. I made some in my metal planer video. I sent some photos to Harold and got a lovely reply via email. They work pretty well!
That depth stop is horrible. Lose the threaded rod and put a piece of linear rail on there. Just have a bush with a thumb-screw for a clamp. That's what I have and it is really great because you can use it with gauge blocks to set a known depth.
I will try for sure
great idea. I love your coffe cup :-) Regards from Florence, italy
Nice simple design, I been wanting to make something like this. Might steal your design.
Please do! 😀
I asked Greg Priest about a possible fit for the depth stop on my Precision Matthews mill. I received a response of "I don't know" and "You pay for return shipping". Just thought you should know. Knowledge and customer service are important to me. Best to you.
You should make a set that fits down into the T slot to keep it square, and another set that locks in 90 degrees to the T slot. and use the ones you just made when you have a piece that has an angled surface.
To save having to stop at just the right spot when milling the slots, I think I would have drilled the end first. Just goes to show there is more than one way to do things and not one way is the "right" way.
Watching abom, ave, this old chatterhand etc, but youtube only now decided to let me know your channel exists. Love those jokes and also your tutorials are great.
RUclips’s algorithm is cruel. Glad you found me! 😀
Just wanted to say that this is really cool and the perfect tiny clamping system for my Taig Lathe when set up with a milling slide. As soon as I can get it running again (waiting for some parts) I'm going to make some of these.
But, instead of 80+ passes with the small end mill would drilling a hole and then cutting with a slitting saw up to that hole work instead? I've seen Clickspring do something like that.
Awesome channel 😊
Awesome comment! 😀
I'm a big fan of draw filing burrs off, very smooth finish without file toothmarks.
I an 65 have a son 17 we are learning from you. Ty so much
Calipers make the best marking tools. Also wonder if a light spray of water based coolant would help with the smoke factor so someone doesn't think the old devils lettuce is getting burnt up at full blast.
very nice
Epic as ever.........very handy design
Wow that’s cool thanks for sharing