So, I just got back to a CNC job at work. It has been 10.5 years, got a lot to relearn. Then because of some HAAS videos, I get some Quinn videos in my feed. Sweet, good to see you and your work again!
Turned (and milled) out very nice. One advantage to the commercially bought holders you mentioned is you can position the indicator dial flat so you can see it the entire time. I wonder if you could add a vertical bar between the indicator and the holder to yours to do the same?
The indicator needs to be perpendicular to the measurement; they only measure a single degree of freedom. I thought about ways to keep the dial visible, but you'd have to get a special indicator that measured two degrees of freedom.
@@soranuareane Maybe check the way Pieczynski uses his Indicaol and you may have to rethink the perpendicular thing. (You are not measuring anything absolute, Just the relieve position with respect to the spindle) ,,,,,, Actually all Quinn needs to do is just to make a swival at the end of the down rod and it's bye-bye mirror.
You didn't repair your clamp ring after a mistake. You recognized that the shoulder might wear as this handy fixture will be frequently used, and changed your design to make the shoulder easily replaceable.
I absolutely love how you had the foresight to know this was going to be a bit less involved video, and so you added the bushing repair to give it that little extra bit of flare and introduce another skill. Next level for sure.
"adult language...." had me in stitches!!!!! How many times has this happened???? I am more than guilty of doing this... in a hurry, or just too much to think about... and OOPS!!!! Grab that .125 drill instead of the .100.... #$%^&#@!!!!
Hi Quinn - quick question - why haven't you done tge first detail on the milling machine if you had the turn table available? Pin in the centre, then OD, followed by ID, then OD of the small tag, and a hole in it, and job done with measuring once, and whole feature made on one machine. I meant measuring twice ;)
The subtle jokes like "music cut due to supply chain issues" is one of the wonderful things that makes this content stand out in a crowd. Keep 'em coming!
Before chamfering a knurl: "What the heck is this? It looks like my dog's been chewing on some bar stock" After chamfering: "Gooday, and welcome back to Clickspring!"
I just (literally yesterday) learned a trick from a journeyman machinist at work. We use factory “indycols” and instead of using the DTI vertically so that the dial is facing you in the front but away from you in the back where you have to use a mirror, he showed me that if you put the DTI dial up towards the spindle with the arm at a 90 degree down, you can see the face the entire time your sweeping your part in. Saved me a ton of time. I know it would be a little difficult with how you made your device, but it’s honestly worth trying it that way. To put it how he put it: “quit chasing your damn head around the table, you’ll make yourself dizzy!”
I thought 'everyone' knew that, even if you have to make a different arm to suspend indicator in correct orientation. Should probably watch more Joe Pie video's?
Your videos Quinn, are brilliant! Having recently bought myself a mill ( the smaller version of yours) I went through your milling tutorials and found them very helpful, so I also went through the lathe tutorial to see what I was doing wrong there. I've made this DTI holder, but decided I would save some money by making the 2 larger pieces on my 3D printer, which also means I don't have to buy myself a dovetail milling cutter since I can 3D print the DTI clamping mechanism. Being an electronic engineer (retired) with minimal mechanical background I find that making chips in my workshop is extremely therapeutic. Keep the videos coming!
Doing things right the first time is a holy grail, but being able to catch up on those mistakes seems much more important and accessible to me. It's an art you've mastered. Bravo !
Someone else might have suggested this if so sorry! MrPete22 did a video one a tramning indicator. He modified the indicator holder so that the indicator could be rotated without varying the height of the indicator. It takes time to but I think it is worth the effort. Maybe you could modify your "Indicator Holder" to do the same. Good video, thanks!
This addition to the shop may not advance the cause of feline oral hygiene but may be useful in some other lower priority functions. I compliment you on your interesting presentation of useful information as is tradition. You may carry on (and you always do)! Loved it! 🥸👍💥
شكرا دكتورة كوين علي مابذلتيه من مجهود و من علم شيق ..لقد تابعت الفيديوهات الشيقه و ادعو لكي بمزيد من الخير والسعادة أيضا. حفظكم الله حفظكم الله و شكراا
For softer material (aluminium in particular) use an ordinary hole saw to get 'starter holes' more than 1" diameter. Bi-metal hole saws will easily cut steel but it's a good idea to drill at least one swarf removal hole in the 'cut' if your using drill press or mill and run at a lower than usual speed. Even cheap carbon steel hole saws will work if rpm is kept down, I've used 3" diameter in 1" thick A36 plate, way cheaper than buying Rotobroach
Would it a lot harder to make this with an open segment so you fit it around the quill from the side rather than over the end? If you have a tool already in the quill your design could be kind of cumbersome.
Instead of a Loctite Fit, you could also have the boss on the riser a little longer, then countersink the hole on the top of the long bar, and rivet the boss in place.. that is how i would do that.. but then again.. how do you think a watch hand is attached to its hub?.. indeed.. riveting.. Speaking of these hubs.. you could also drill a hole in the top of the post, and put a ball bearing in there.. and rivet it in a vice.. also works a charm.. I made a similar tool for myself, but i used a "G-Clamp"style clamp, and i "Sacrifised" a "Noga"Style Indicator arm, which screws right in, and also clamps all my indicators..
Oh! Just so you all know. Blondie (Deborah Ann Harry) is coming to Foxwoods Casino in CT. This is not an Ad. I live in CT and I saw it on a billboard while riding my bike down the highway. I just thought you all would like to know. And Quinn is Blondi...well...hacks. I can't figure out why she has that name. She doesn't "Hack" anything! Maybe an occasional foresight lapse, but she always gets it right. Better than I and I used to build Robots! :-)
Guess my eyeballs are not calibrated. I really couldn't tell that was the wrong drill size. Crap. Wonder where you go for that??? Probably pretty tricky to get both metric and imperial too, huh?
@2:12 You are Not Sponsored by DeWho? Were you offered and declined or are you looking to be sponsored? I am guessing the former. You realize your viewers get "riveted" and ads break the spell and the rhythm. I mean that.
Quinn, Tell me more about you corner round fixture please, what holds it in your turn table? or is just the inside threaded, you used a small screw to hold you work piece down, what held the corner rounding fixture in the turn table. Did I miss something, or you just pulling up against the bottom piece, since the clam is holding down on the edge, so it's pulling against the bottom aluminum plate, Nice project as always, 👍👍👍👍👍😁😁
I am watching you channel for many years but I am not understand what is meaning of saying, "Yacht Z." Perhaps you are naming your ship? This is being very strange idiom for people who no speak english. You talk of your boat many times over the years but I am still not understanding what is meaning of a yacht named "zee."
I think 89.5625% of machinist would agree with me that knurling isn't a science and mediocre crosses and blurres the lines between art and I meant for that bleep to look like that .. I mean just feel how the change in knurl fits on different parts of your hand.
Quinn ,you always do such nice work . Every step is well thought out. I used to work with this older gentleman (Duke) and his Mantra was measure every drill bit KID !!!!!!! So to this day I measure every drill bit ...
This looks like a great use case for trapaning... Trpeeding? Hole saw the center. Or a mill slug cutter. A bit surprised that I don't see a lot of it done. Not in the machine shop world, nor the RUclips world
In the UK we also have Lumsden rotary grinders I was in the Design office of a company making Electromagnetic woke holding devices as well as some nonmagnetic devices
I have the same Vertex rotary table. Mine however has three T slots . Does anyone know why the two different iterations are made of what are similar accessories. Is it to do with geometry for setting up workpieces. Is it a metric/ imperial thing or does it reflect the country of manufacture. My table is made in Taiwan! Stavros
How is it possible that you never see a seam or run over the previous pattern that was made during the previous rotation of the lathe when knurling? How is this possible with different diameters ?
I love watching all your video's and learn something every time. I did just receive my mill and have not completed cleaning it up and preparing it for use so my learning is all relative. I am having a little bit of understanding issue with how this can dial in a round part such as those when the dial indicator is not in center with the mill spindle. This part is not quite at my level yet so will wait to explore it by doing, but perhaps it will come to me later in my milling experience.
That's the joy of doing builds, it's a journey where afterwards you have grown a fine collection of new skills and tools. Very rewarding, thanks for sharing.
"I checked it again to see if it got bigger." 😄 I can't tell you how many times I have done exactly that before coming to grips with the fact that I had taken too much off.
Couldn't you have put the second smaller hole at an angle before you cut it out of the stock? It might save a tiny bit of room for the next piece and create less waste
Just want to say that you are one of my favorite RUclips machinists. You have interesting, useful projects, do a brilliant job explaining them, and add even more value when something goes wrong and you work through the problems. In this one, if you had used a brass pin rather than aluminum to repair the mistake you could have presented it as a highly artistic flourish.😄 Thank you for sharing what you do. You are appreciated.
I have a rotary table but have no idea how to use it. I’m going to give this project a shot.
I really liked the little illustration in the corner demonstrating what feature you're working on.
So, I just got back to a CNC job at work. It has been 10.5 years, got a lot to relearn. Then because of some HAAS videos, I get some Quinn videos in my feed. Sweet, good to see you and your work again!
Thanks for showing the 3D renders of the parts while you work on them, very helpful.
Thanks Quinn
Nice part and project for next weekend...🤔😎
16:49 Priceless!
Turned (and milled) out very nice.
One advantage to the commercially bought holders you mentioned is you can position the indicator dial flat so you can see it the entire time. I wonder if you could add a vertical bar between the indicator and the holder to yours to do the same?
The indicator needs to be perpendicular to the measurement; they only measure a single degree of freedom. I thought about ways to keep the dial visible, but you'd have to get a special indicator that measured two degrees of freedom.
@@soranuareane Maybe check the way Pieczynski uses his Indicaol and you may have to rethink the perpendicular thing. (You are not measuring anything absolute, Just the relieve position with respect to the spindle) ,,,,,, Actually all Quinn needs to do is just to make a swival at the end of the down rod and it's bye-bye mirror.
You didn't repair your clamp ring after a mistake. You recognized that the shoulder might wear as this handy fixture will be frequently used, and changed your design to make the shoulder easily replaceable.
Fantastic!
Enjoyed and good fixes on the goofs all part of a good machinist can do
I absolutely love how you had the foresight to know this was going to be a bit less involved video, and so you added the bushing repair to give it that little extra bit of flare and introduce another skill. Next level for sure.
Nice engineering test Quinn.👍👍
"adult language...." had me in stitches!!!!!
How many times has this happened???? I am more than guilty of doing this... in a hurry, or just too much to think about... and OOPS!!!!
Grab that .125 drill instead of the .100.... #$%^&#@!!!!
Well done. 👍👍😎👍👍 Note - Troubleshooting is half the fun 😜
I'm thinking those divots on the inner runners have something to do with tool access for the assembly line.
You say that you will always be a mediocre knurler. Have you tried cut knurling yet? Perfectly crisp knurls, all without great cutting forces
Sweet lead screw grease mark tattoo on your thumb!
What would you think of using a trepanning tool to rough cut the big hole?
Hi Quinn - quick question - why haven't you done tge first detail on the milling machine if you had the turn table available? Pin in the centre, then OD, followed by ID, then OD of the small tag, and a hole in it, and job done with measuring once, and whole feature made on one machine. I meant measuring twice ;)
Mediocrity is... marginally acceptable!
Yay!
Oops... forgot. Mediocrity.
Yay.
Thanks, and Meow to Sprocket.
Robert is, indeed, my uncle.
Sometimes you have intentions you didn't intend on intending.
❤❤❤👍👍👍 more, please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm curious why you didn't trepan out the center. Too much work? Just not worth it? I always love a good trepan
Wonder if you could have knurled the undersize boss to get back to interference fit?
I always check to see if the final deminsions get bigger...lol (No, really I do.)
Where’s the Fleur De’lis for the French words?
24:41 No loctite in the slot ladies
Hello, Quin, may I possibly to purchase from u the complete part kit thx
I don't have a mill. I have a sledge hammer only.
It was really refreshing to see you do a little project with definitely no mistakes where everything came out as intended. Thanks for sharing!
You know she makes the parts perfectly the first time then remakes it for video with various "errors" so as not to be too intimidating?
@@spehropefhany remakes?
It's easy to show the past as the future with videos...
Quinn - it's a joy to see how you recover from the small errors we all make!
Yes, we do! Hi, Ron! Your work is spectacular! I am always learning from you and Quinn.
The subtle jokes like "music cut due to supply chain issues" is one of the wonderful things that makes this content stand out in a crowd. Keep 'em coming!
You had me at peeling off the protective covering... the rest of the video was just gravy! LOL
DTI = Down To Indicate?
@@ellieprice363 yeah, but my way is funnier
Watching you draw out the part in layout ink was one of the most delightfully satisfying things I've seen in ages.
Before chamfering a knurl: "What the heck is this? It looks like my dog's been chewing on some bar stock"
After chamfering: "Gooday, and welcome back to Clickspring!"
I just (literally yesterday) learned a trick from a journeyman machinist at work. We use factory “indycols” and instead of using the DTI vertically so that the dial is facing you in the front but away from you in the back where you have to use a mirror, he showed me that if you put the DTI dial up towards the spindle with the arm at a 90 degree down, you can see the face the entire time your sweeping your part in. Saved me a ton of time. I know it would be a little difficult with how you made your device, but it’s honestly worth trying it that way. To put it how he put it: “quit chasing your damn head around the table, you’ll make yourself dizzy!”
I thought 'everyone' knew that, even if you have to make a different arm to suspend indicator in correct orientation. Should probably watch more Joe Pie video's?
I recently made a Indicol style holder for my SX3 mill. it always interesting to see different approaches to the same problem
You missed a trick by not running the intro backwards 😁
Had not seen the dead center trick for centering a punch mark. Thanks!
Your videos Quinn, are brilliant! Having recently bought myself a mill ( the smaller version of yours) I went through your milling tutorials and found them very helpful, so I also went through the lathe tutorial to see what I was doing wrong there. I've made this DTI holder, but decided I would save some money by making the 2 larger pieces on my 3D printer, which also means I don't have to buy myself a dovetail milling cutter since I can 3D print the DTI clamping mechanism. Being an electronic engineer (retired) with minimal mechanical background I find that making chips in my workshop is extremely therapeutic. Keep the videos coming!
Knuthing wrong with being known as a knarly knurler.
Doing things right the first time is a holy grail, but being able to catch up on those mistakes seems much more important and accessible to me. It's an art you've mastered. Bravo !
At 14:45, you could have knurled it to "grow" the metal if it was a very small difference?
Someone else might have suggested this if so sorry! MrPete22 did a video one a tramning indicator. He modified the indicator holder so that the indicator could be rotated without varying the height of the indicator. It takes time to but I think it is worth the effort. Maybe you could modify your "Indicator Holder" to do the same. Good video, thanks!
Just realized that won't work on a Dial test indicator only on a test indicator, sorry bout that!
Recovering from an error is the thing that really helps the rest of us! Thanks !
I held my breath when you started tapping after saying “everything going perfectly to plan here…”
Metric mile, Kill o meter, same same?
This addition to the shop may not advance the cause of feline oral hygiene but may be useful in some other lower priority functions. I compliment you on your interesting presentation of useful information as is tradition. You may carry on (and you always do)! Loved it! 🥸👍💥
Nice tool, I would suggest using a spring loaded center punch tool and peen the locktited parts to add some mechanical rigidity to it.
شكرا دكتورة كوين علي مابذلتيه من مجهود و من علم شيق ..لقد تابعت الفيديوهات الشيقه و ادعو لكي بمزيد من الخير والسعادة أيضا. حفظكم الله حفظكم الله و شكراا
For softer material (aluminium in particular) use an ordinary hole saw to get 'starter holes' more than 1" diameter. Bi-metal hole saws will easily cut steel but it's a good idea to drill at least one swarf removal hole in the 'cut' if your using drill press or mill and run at a lower than usual speed. Even cheap carbon steel hole saws will work if rpm is kept down, I've used 3" diameter in 1" thick A36 plate, way cheaper than buying Rotobroach
Thank you for taking us along and for showing us the ways it can go wrong particularly for less-experienced machinists.
Awesome idea for using the dead center for dialing the part to true.
Would it a lot harder to make this with an open segment so you fit it around the quill from the side rather than over the end? If you have a tool already in the quill your design could be kind of cumbersome.
Instead of a Loctite Fit, you could also have the boss on the riser a little longer, then countersink the hole on the top of the long bar, and rivet the boss in place.. that is how i would do that.. but then again.. how do you think a watch hand is attached to its hub?.. indeed.. riveting..
Speaking of these hubs.. you could also drill a hole in the top of the post, and put a ball bearing in there.. and rivet it in a vice.. also works a charm..
I made a similar tool for myself, but i used a "G-Clamp"style clamp, and i "Sacrifised" a "Noga"Style Indicator arm, which screws right in, and also clamps all my indicators..
A very nice tool AND a bushing repair?! Love it!
As an old gentleman that I used to work with would say, “I’ve cut this part three times and it’s STILL too small!”
Oh! Just so you all know. Blondie (Deborah Ann Harry) is coming to Foxwoods Casino in CT. This is not an Ad. I live in CT and I saw it on a billboard while riding my bike down the highway. I just thought you all would like to know. And Quinn is Blondi...well...hacks. I can't figure out why she has that name. She doesn't "Hack" anything! Maybe an occasional foresight lapse, but she always gets it right. Better than I and I used to build Robots! :-)
Super neat job!
As an aside... whenever I'm parting off anything now my brain screams YAHTZEE on cue 🤭
I’m in the process of utilizing your process to build one. Thanks! I love your videos
Guess my eyeballs are not calibrated. I really couldn't tell that was the wrong drill size. Crap. Wonder where you go for that??? Probably pretty tricky to get both metric and imperial too, huh?
@2:12 You are Not Sponsored by DeWho? Were you offered and declined or are you looking to be sponsored? I am guessing the former. You realize your viewers get "riveted" and ads break the spell and the rhythm. I mean that.
Quinn, Tell me more about you corner round fixture please, what holds it in your turn table? or is just the inside threaded, you used a small screw to hold you work piece down, what held the corner rounding fixture in the turn table. Did I miss something, or you just pulling up against the bottom piece, since the clam is holding down on the edge, so it's pulling against the bottom aluminum plate, Nice project as always, 👍👍👍👍👍😁😁
I am watching you channel for many years but I am not understand what is meaning of saying, "Yacht Z." Perhaps you are naming your ship? This is being very strange idiom for people who no speak english. You talk of your boat many times over the years but I am still not understanding what is meaning of a yacht named "zee."
I think 89.5625% of machinist would agree with me that knurling isn't a science and mediocre crosses and blurres the lines between art and I meant for that bleep to look like that .. I mean just feel how the change in knurl fits on different parts of your hand.
Quinn ,you always do such nice work . Every step is well thought out. I used to work with this older gentleman (Duke) and his Mantra was measure every drill bit KID !!!!!!! So to this day I measure every drill bit ...
Sometimes a bandsaw and a file get the job done.... Aka clickspring
Was that a Swiss Army knife you used as a prop under the feeler gauge ? If so I see you’re channeling your inner Macgyver. 😆😆😆
This looks like a great use case for trapaning... Trpeeding? Hole saw the center. Or a mill slug cutter. A bit surprised that I don't see a lot of it done. Not in the machine shop world, nor the RUclips world
I was waiting for this one! Amazing content every week, superb!
In the UK we also have Lumsden rotary grinders I was in the Design office of a company making Electromagnetic woke holding devices as well as some nonmagnetic devices
I’m not a fine metal worker, but I love your videos specifically your humour, one question how do call your little measure ruler?
Dear Quinn, however much I like you, I would never ask you to chamfer the knurl on my knob thanks.😄
I have the same Vertex rotary table. Mine however has three T slots .
Does anyone know why the two different iterations are made of what are similar accessories. Is it to do with geometry for setting up workpieces. Is it a metric/ imperial thing or does it reflect the country of manufacture. My table is made in Taiwan!
Stavros
How is it possible that you never see a seam or run over the previous pattern that was made during the previous rotation of the lathe when knurling? How is this possible with different diameters ?
I love it quinn
12:58 excellent pronunciation, especially from a Ukrainian farm girl.
Are you going to solder something already?! Love You Quinn!! :-)
I love watching all your video's and learn something every time. I did just receive my mill and have not completed cleaning it up and preparing it for use so my learning is all relative. I am having a little bit of understanding issue with how this can dial in a round part such as those when the dial indicator is not in center with the mill spindle. This part is not quite at my level yet so will wait to explore it by doing, but perhaps it will come to me later in my milling experience.
Oooh … cool!
Chamfers are what separates us from the animals. And everything turned out just spiffy.
Bravo 👏.... Blondi
Neat tricks with rotary table 👌
That's the joy of doing builds, it's a journey where afterwards you have grown a fine collection of new skills and tools.
Very rewarding, thanks for sharing.
You might consider using my method. Make the part first, then make the drawing to match the finished part.
You made a fancy Omega as an intermediate step. I call that a win.
"I checked it again to see if it got bigger." 😄 I can't tell you how many times I have done exactly that before coming to grips with the fact that I had taken too much off.
Lol I used to run a old Blanchard during my wood saw blade making days funny someone would mention it.
If my memory serves me correctly, that aluminum plate is Mic 6.
Couldn't you have put the second smaller hole at an angle before you cut it out of the stock? It might save a tiny bit of room for the next piece and create less waste
It's not a problem, it's a solution opportunity :)
Another great job .I have an old mirror in a picture frame I stand up behind the table . About A4 size . One of the things I use in the shop a lot .
Just want to say that you are one of my favorite RUclips machinists.
You have interesting, useful projects, do a brilliant job explaining them, and add even more value when something goes wrong and you work through the problems.
In this one, if you had used a brass pin rather than aluminum to repair the mistake you could have presented it as a highly artistic flourish.😄
Thank you for sharing what you do.
You are appreciated.
Rest in peace now indicator holder ring clamp, you served well
Bloody hell woman, you make nice stuff.
"For a very important technical reason . . . it was on the lathe and I didn't want to change it" 🤪
Would yo be able to use your indicator holder for Tramming the mill head?
Hi Quinn To save material could you trepan the material out?