Let's Make a Scribing Tool!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- This episode on Blondihacks, I’m making a scriber! Exclusive videos, drawings, models & plans available on Patreon!
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Clickspring’s Scriber: • Milling a Metal Scriber
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Love your work mate :)
Aww thanks! You inspired me to get into this in the first place 😁
praise of giants, bravo quinn, bravo :)
Maaaaate !
I would pin this comment too! Nice one Quinn. Keep up the great work. You’re well on your way to inspiring me to get into machining - from an Aussie electronic engineer :-).
@@Blondihacks yeah awesome work buddy, i would have done it completely the same way if i wouldnt own a six axis cnc lol. take care, bye!
Seeing that you feel that the Starett scriber is smaller than you like. Would you now call it a "subscriber"?😉
😆 I see what you did there!
Interesting point.
very clever i love it!
Did your dad tell you to say that...
I kept waiting for this joke or similar. Glad I found it here at least
Another great source for a HARD scriber point is the TIG welding tungstens that are too short for welding. Chuck them up in a drill or Dremel tool, and (outside) gently hone in a point against a cutoff disc on an angle grinder (disc down, guard between you and the spinning death blade).
From time to time you mention lathe or mill speeds, but personally I think it would be interesting for you to mention them more often. Absolutely love your channel!
Beautiful scribe. I made one using mechanical pencil and 3 mm steel for point that I sharpened on belt sander to a less acute angle to I could retract , so I wouldn't poke holes in my shirt.
May I suggest you make a protective cap for the needle? That'll protect both user and the needle from any injuries or damage, respectively.
You’ve got the new space looking nice.
Very enjoyable watching you work and being not serious at times, have to unbury my two metal lathes and try one.
I found an old broken scriber made of aluminium hex stock. Looks like someone had used it as a prybar and had broken the tip off. Your video has given me some inspiration to save the thing and return it to service. Thanks very much, Quinn! Keep up the great videos, love them muchly.
I watch how you do it. Then I translate how to do that using my tooling. I check my scrap bins to see what I might have on hand. Then decide on any artistic elements I might want to add. My scribe is making fat lines. Time for an upgrade.
This will be my first project on my southbend 10k when I finish restoring it in the next few weeks. Thank you!
You can also drill and tap a hole in the knob and connect the knob to the scriber body with a set (grub) screw and locktite. Your way is more "pure", though. No dissimilar metals.
You can still buy new grammophone/phonograph needles: these make great scriber needles, too, plus, there is no eyelet you have to cut off.
They come in a variety of thicknesses from 0.8 mm to 1.8 mm diameter, depending how loud they are supposed to play (the stiffer the needle, and the bigger the diameter, the louder they play).
So very happy to see you back in the shop again. Looking forward to the next steam engine video.
Very nice. Thank you!
Thankyou 👍
9:20 "so that you don't fall asleep on me"
But Quinn, I like your voice. It's nice and calming, and machining genre is my favorite bedtime story. Besides if I fall asleep on your video when I wake up I'll be like, "dang it, watch again then.."
Eh? 😁👍
In Aussie, Chris would be a smart fella..... which can also be a handy spoonerism.
I'm surprised you didn't have "runout" on the sprocket turning.
Thanks for another great video. But I think your Sprocket is out of around.. gotta need more Sprocket videos to be sure.
TUL ballpoint pens (at 1:38 are the most awesome ball-point pens I've ever used! And as an added lefty bonus, the ink doesn't smear!
Still have several of the TUL pens that I've used for years. For my writing style I've found the Pilot Precise V5 pens even nicer. That's nice about having a choice.
Shprockets!....This is Vear Ve Dance!
The scriber is in the same system, but on the next planet out from the runaway ball point pens.
...and we have brass chips. Yay!
Good beginner tiny project. I can just hear my tiny drill snap off.
Hey, get your mind out of the gutter. 🙄
Thanks, and Meow-ow-ow-ow to a spinny Sprocket.
I absolutely LOVE your videos!
Hmmm. I have a center punch I made for a class in college, where the professor accidentally gave us low carbon steel. (He didn't realize until his third attempt to heat treat them). I may try drilling out the tip and installing a needle to use it as a scriber.
nothing like a project to figure out what is missing in the shop
that is what this little pointy thing i have is?? the butt end has a screw thread and split in the handle, dunno what this feature is for
I've been using a mechanical pencil with needles for a long time now.
Hi....a fantastic Tool. I am so enjoy to Look your Channel
I believe you can buy carbide scribing tips.
Im going to nee to make one, I guess.!
"You can get away with a LOT when taking light cuts."
That should be engraved as the scout motto instead of "Be prepared!
Hi, Quinn!😍
bad news, you lost a scribe, good news, you get to make a new one and we get a video out of it, its win win really
8:14 "There's no drill in between the two sizes" Me, laughing in metric, where everything is possible. I dont know, if you get them into the drillchuck, but there ARE 1.55mm drills
Also: HOW do the grooves while knurling align? there are two diameters ans the spacing on the tool is fixed, so...
Theres also a 1/16th drill...0625!!
You should have made two so when you lose the first one you won't remember where you put the second one! ;)
In order to find the other scriber, don't look for it. It'll pop up faster that way.
let me know if you decide to sell those? ill buy several of them
Bonus points for those drilling out the hole in the back to allow for storing some spare needles
Once you finished the new scriber did the old one magically reappear? That seems to be the only way to find a lost tool, replace it and then find the old one sitting in plain sight.
This is especially true for tape measures. I am convinced that they include a cloaking mechanism that disengages when the tool feels safe … like when the searcher is carrying another tool of the same type.
I bet it's under the bottom drawer of a tool chest, I routinely remove the bottom drawers now to check for escapees.
True heheh
@@UncleKennysPlace shit, my dad was a 10mm. How could mum keep this from us!?
@@UncleKennysPlace I took the Noha effect,and went to the hardware store and bought two of everything in ten mm size!
Quinn is so thorough and detail-oriented that she even spin-balances her Sprockets.
Yes, cat and slave having fun right up to the point where the cat vomits.
That Sprocket spins freely but is a bit out of round.
yeah, this kind of sprocket tends to run out a lot if you’re not paying attention. gotta keep an eye on that.
Hey Quinn...isn't a 1/16th drill .0625 in the middle of the two drills you used?? Thought i was going crazy when you said that there was no drill in between...just fyi. Great project btw!! Came out beautiful!
Oops, you are correct 🤦♀️
a piece of tig tungsten works well for the scribe tip (i think its harder than the needle) but it requires grinding... And as an Aussie male myself, "Bloke" is correct for a formal masculine noun, Koala would be the informal, non-binary, noun, for someone you think poorly of, and mate is a formal, non-binary, noun for a friend. 😅
A 2mm mechanical pencil will hold a 2mm tungsten electrode.
Seems you'll have to come up with a new source for shim stock in your new digs - no soda cans here. I suggest you substitute with pop cans but stay away from the ones that say Molsens to avoid the taste of cardboard in your mouth
Your old scriber rolled off into a trash bin.
If I ever notice anything missing after looking in the immediate area I always turn the bins out.
If anyone is curious those TUL pens are amazing. I highly, highly recommend them.Some of the best writing pens I have ever used.
It's no Pilot G-2, but it's a pretty nice pen.
Zebra F701 is my go-to.
Good morning and greetings from San Francisco. BTW, your "outs" and "projects" are sounding more Canadian by the episode. Welcome home.
Thank you. I am disabled and cannot Ryun a machine safely. I live vicariously through your safety and precision. Your calm narrative is welcome. You are my Saturday grace, however, your health and safety are paramount.Keep up the phenomenal work as possible. Thank you for making my day.
How about drilling it a bit deeper behind the hex section and keeping a spare needle in there?
Quinn. Quinn. Holy crow, m8.
You forgot the most important thing:
DOES IT APRON?!?!
When I studied metal engineering at school one of the projects was a centre punch. We used a masonry nail for the tip on that one
That was well done indeed. Your new workshop is excellent, lots of scope for expansion. Can I address the elephant in the room? You are no longer wearing your beanie for these films. Is that the new look blondihacks?
May I be so bold as to ask why you didn't leave the hole undersize and heat the body to insert the needle? Once it had cooled down the needle would be held tight (or so I assume). Love your work and thanks for all the knowledge you've imparted over the years.
Chris is a smart bloke
Chris is a clever bugger
Chris is a good operator
All Australian compliments acceptable for use in mixed company.
Quinn, Now that you've made the sufficient sacrifice, the old scriber will magically reappear.
Yes! Often just "invoking its name" is sufficient - taking steps to gather the necessary parts, settling on a design and such like.
A corollary is that if you say "where is that thing I ordered, I am going to chase that up", it will arrive the next day.
I consulted my Australia identification chart and have determined Chris is a Koala as he is not poisonous.
Sprocket is going to hide that one just out of spite for spinning her on that chair 😼😼
Excellent perfect job hai 100 %❤❤❤
The old scribe went underground and became a sub-scriber.
I appreciate the fact that Sprocket is spinning on a Herman Miller Aeron Mk. 2 chair if I'm not much mistaken... A discerning cat and human.
Wow, a real expert identifying the generation of Aeron. Impressive.
To use small drills make a bracket to hold your Dremel on your tool post .A nice strong holder possible a permanent fixture Then you can spin drill at appropriate speed .
As for the sewing needle as a point: I have no experience with hand sewing needles, but due to the fact that I used to have a somewhat cheap and misaligned sewing machine I can say that there can be large differences in the quality of the metal. When they hit something hard they either shatter (which is the harder type I guess) or they bend. So better test your needles for hardness before you replicate this. Some of the chinesium needles might be to soft.
I object to the racial profiling, but you otherwise have dispensed excellent advice.
Needles for sewing machines generally come with a ground flat, so you could use a setscrew to quickly replace them.
@@adamthethird4753 chinesium isnt racial profiling, its long been known that cheap chinese tools use far inferior metals to keep the costs down. Shit, half the chinese stuff Ive got seems to just be cintered grinding dust when they snap. Cheap tools arent known for quality, you get what you pqy for most of the time
I also really like the Clickspring design, and made a few of my own also using sewing needles as the scriber point. One trick I do, which Chris alludes to: the first part I make is the scriber point, which is cut just a hair over final length (snapped, really) and *then* I use a bench stone to turn the non-pointy end into its own drill, as Chris shows, but where Chris uses the waste end of the needle, I simply use the end which will be installed into the scriber body. Perfect fit, first time every time, at the cost of a very small amount of work with a bench stone and more chip-clearing when drilling.
Have you ever considered a maker's mark for yourself ?
I don’t think Sprocket was amused but I was!
Just curious. Why not a nice drafting pencil with an electrode?
There's that ridiculously inoffensive expletive "Poop knuckles" again. :D
I'm reminded of something a friend once said about the "Atom thick" one ply toilet tissue his boarding school's lavatories used to have.......... But this isn't the place to recount such base and vulgar anecdotes. :D
Anyway, I've been using old TIG electrodes as scribers for a fair while, and a couple years ago I made my own holder out of a 180mm M14 stainless bolt (that I turned down to remove the thread and head). It's a bit "Heath Robinson" to look at, but one thing that works pretty well is the way to adjust it's tip poke out as I grind new points in the electrode. I drilled about 70mm down the "Non pointy end" (old British engineering term. :D) and tapped an M6 thread down it. I use a grub screw to set how far the point protrudes. The only bit that's REALLY sketchy is the method to prevent the electrode from just falling all the way through....... I wipe a little bit of silicone bathroom sealant on it to make it gum up in the remaining 70 to 80mm of close fitting hole.
Yeah. I know, It isn't a solution to be proud of, but it works. :D
"... so I'm going to use the character builder saw, like a chump." had me rolling, what an absolute mood! I literally had to cut some hardboard today with a coping saw because I didn't want to go through all the rigamarole of getting my circular saw out, clearing a table and setting up the cut.
You can also use sharpened tungsten tig electrodes as the scribe bit.
If you have a pocket in your apron that's sized for a pen you can jam a piece of foam or whatever in there and have it be a dedicated scribe pocket.
Great project for breaking in the new workshop! Glad to see its up and running 🎉
Thank you for doing a complete thru cut with the character-building saw. My old metal shop teacher years and years ago drove that into my head.
I always find it strange that most people cut on the right hand side of a vice, the left hand does very little and you have to reach round a possible danger zone to catch the offcut/part. Using the left side allows you to hold the free end to stop vibration etc. and especially at the end for the last few strokes, you get a good view of the cut too (for right handed people)
@@incubatork Good point! The force (of habit) is strong with this one (a.k.a. me)... I will immediately start cutting on the left side of the vice!
Is there anything fundamentally wrong with drilling the hole right after facing the rod?
This is something that I actually have both the skills and the tools to now make. I don't currently have the brass, but will give this a go once I remedy that. (It also gives me an excuse tor replace my as-cheap-as-the-make-them knurling tool.) Thanks!
That was good to get back to a simple project. It reminded me of a high school project we made here in Australia from similar sized brass, it was a scalpel blade holder, the brass was drilled out and a steal shaft with a taper on one end with a slot to hold a scalpel blade and the other end was threaded this went through the brass tube and a brass nut at the other end would pull the shaft through causing it to grip tightly on a scalpel blade. We also knurled both the gripping end about the same length as you did and the brass nut was the same diameter and length of the knurled section at gripping end. We also made a pocket clip out of brass with a hole in it so that it would fit over the smaller turned section of the brass nut and would therefore be clamped between the brass nut and the main tube.
So great the way you use every mishap as a "teachable moment," instead of editing it out. Integrity always shines through.
Could you have done an interference fit for the needle instead of loctite? Would interference work with brass and steel?
When I moved my shop, I thought I would find all of the dropped hardware and tools that I couldn’t find. After all of the machines were moved out, I swept up and found exactly zero tools/hardware. 😞
Heck yes. Happy to see you christen your new shop and doubly happy to see Sprocket again.🐈
nice but not enough sprocket 😻
Sprocket go spinny!!
Il mondo è bello perché ci sono persone come te! Un saluto da Firenze
Regarding the knurling tool, I'm sure you've probably covered this in other videos, but how is it that the "knurls" come out evenly? That is to say, unless your workpiece is the same diameter as the wheels on the knurling tool (or of a ratio that divides evenly by the number of ridges on the wheel), it seems like once it makes one rotation it would be knurling over what it did on the previous rotation and you'd have places where the edge of the wheel came down on a ridge that it made on the last pass. Sort of "double stamping" it.
I hope I'm making it clear what I mean. It seems like the tools would just chew the whole thing up, or that at least there'd be a noticeable line along the path where the wheel stopped working that part of it.
John wick would like this metal pencil....
There is always something that goes missing on a move. For me it was the handle on my pan brake. Never has turned up. One day I need to make something nicer than the long 10mm bolt that's on it now!
You should try to get hold of some Metric drill bits. I have 1.5mm, 1.55, 1.6... Actually, I have every 0.05 from 0.4mm and up to 2mm...
I may be a bit obsessive...
6:59 have you thought about using a squirt bottle (the ones with the long pipe thingy used in laboratories) for applying WD40? I find them way more precise and less awkward than the „punp action“ bottles.
They are the best.
A pipette?
@@alexblackburn627 i think they mean a squeeze bottle (on mcmaster, for instance)
I believe they are called "wash bottles".
Great idea. £7.59 for 3, on Amazon UK
LOL- @14:22, I literally said: "Hey! That's a bad idea."
Then you said the same thing and I laughed my butt off.
Which triggered the memory of the classic Carla Ulbrich song "What if your butt was gone?"
Bloody awesome mate, F… ripper,
Being Australian I’m aloud to talk like that.
Translation: That’s a very nice Scribe.
Yay!! It's Blondihacks time!! (You just mentioned falling asleep, and it's 03/30 here, so falling asleep as soon as the video is over is definitely my goal...)
Hermosa pieza muy buena y muy útil para hacer trazos perfecto Dios te Bendiga 🙏
There is a kind of cheating solution to everyday tools somehow disapearing. A photographer friend of mine turned up for our daily lunch chessgame in a very satisfyed mood. Because he had just bought 5 identical ideal size scissors. -"I alway's search for it, so I figure if I have 5, at least one of them should turn up when I need it!"
He had a weird strategy for hardware such as screws, bolts, nuts and nails though. He bought whole cartons, but after the project at hand was finished, he just threw what was left away. His reasoning beeing "when I need that particular hardware again, I won't find it anyway, and the way to a good hardware store is short from my studio". Personally, worst case things end up in the unsorted hardware bin. I find my childhood skills of finding just the right piece in a heap, actually also works surprisingly well in a heap of hundreds of screws. (There are even some odd non-metric stuff there, that has saved me on occasion.)
Anyway, my scriber has actually wandered off somewhere, so I'll pick up on this nice little project! Currently using a way to thin ground pice of musical wire. Embarrising...🤫
not having any "scrap" brass lying around and gagging over the cost, I bought a length of 0.4 aluminum rod. I DID have some 3/4" aluminum rod lying around and used that to make an 8 point cap to prevent rolling. I can file 8 flats a lot easier and accurately that 6....(:> Speaking of scrap, I was at a local boat ramp and ran into a guy tasked with hauling out derelict boats and he let me strip out a prop shaft from one of the hulls. I now own a 3-1/2 ft long piece of what I think is 630 stainless steel . What I will ever do with it with on a 7x16" lathe I don't know, but I'll have the material(worth about $250 best I can tell)!
Well done, (as is tradition.)
Re: lead angle
Have asked lead angle questions of many online, (didn't know correct term until your vid), but have never received an answer.
Would love to see you cover it fully in a beginner's vid. You always explain concepts & techniques so plainly & thoroughly.
Re: scribers
Replacement carbide tips are available through MSC, so I'm sure others have them, as well. (Starrett replacements are WAY expensive, so look for no name imports.)
It's funny, I have several store bought scribers, but my fav is made from one end of a broken fiberglass tent rod. It had a round rubber end, which I milled to a hex, plus the rod had the perfect size hole for the tip.
I'm willing to wager a patreon subscription, that I do indeed know where that scribe tool went. Everywhere you have a drawer where you might of stored it in, say that beautiful pink tool box might be a suspect. That bottom of the box just under that last drawer seems to always hide lots of goodies. Now I'm not going to give further clues I'm just saying that would be a excellent place to start :)
Q: Have you almost finished putting the pattern on that brass rod? A: Yes Im knurlly done. Engineer's, err, joke. Yes that's it, a joke. Edit: Oops spolling mistoke, sorree.
Ah, the good old Herman Miller Aeron chair. A logical/predictable choice given your tech background. Popular though I'm personally more partial to Steelcase. Got to use a Steelcase Leap (which is a bit like a non mesh Aeron) in grad school which was excellent, but those are pricy and scarce in the surplus/secondary market around me, so I ended up using a kneeling chair, then a simpler Steelcase Criterion for a few years, now using a Fully chair.
Oops I guess I'm a nerd.
I had a friend in middle school named Greg but I nicknamed "knurl" because, I told him, man you're thinking is really bumpy sometimes, I just remembered that after 40 while watching this! 😂