@yammienoob i see you don’t have any 750 vids ill let u use my 2025 gsxr 750 in one of your videos would love to see you try it out and see what you think
"in his 40s, wears leathers for a weekend ride, and hangs out with 20 year olds" And I took that shit personally. I legit stopped making my breakfast and said HEY!
Nothing beats the raw visceral sound an old carbureted Honda SOHC 750 makes as you kickstart it and run through the gears. They did it first, and did it right even though today I’ll get slammed by a dude on a Ninja 400. I’ll laugh in 70’s exhaust note though, and give a solid thumbs up.
@ to do it the right way yeah. I did it kinda ghetto so it was just an easy weekend project. Need to buy cbr subframe, fairings, wire everything yourself (wiring was almost a plug and play) my fairings are held together with self tappers but from about 10 feet away it looks fine😂
@@Itsthebikeman I would LOVE to have a 250cc 4cil on the side. But they were never sold here, are very rare a cost a lot. So i'm hoping to add an R6 to my GS one day.
The whole point of sitting in a back breaking position isn’t because we want nice torque and power in the lower and middle of the power band. It’s because that raw top end power is adrenaline pumping. If anyone wanted a “town friendly” power band, they wouldn’t buy a super sport style bike.
Power band friendly super sport style is a pointless concept. The equivalent of buying a super car, along with all the impracticalites and none of the extreme aspects in terms of power. In other words, the r9 and r7’s are ricers. Buy an mt-09.
As a sportbike rider i pretty much agree with everything you said 😂. Im tired of hearing my friend whos crashed his 250 ninja 3 times say that he NEEDS a 1000... Like bro is trying to become a statistic 🤦🏼
That’s just sad. Tell him to sell it. Ridden for over 8 years now and hit a 6 track days w over 30k miles under my belt and have yet to go down. Its not for everyone
For practiality i have a car. I ride motorcycles for fun and emotions. You can ride your boring ass parallel twins, i´ll have my inline four everyday over this.
I have been riding since 1990 and 100% agree. The cb550ss I used to have was more fun than a new twin. I can't ride a sport bike anymore, but I will keep my 1000sx until I can't get on it anymore unless I can get an h2sx.
He has definitely changed his content. Shame in my eyes. I'm 45 and still buying and riding sport bikes. I'd never burn a fellow rider. Yammienoob is earning the big bucks so I understand why he tries controversial topics
as an R6 rider i think people that complain about the R9 horsepower are dumb, the only thing i criticize about the R9 is that at least to me it's uglier than the last gen R6
They went for an underbelly exhaust which actually makes the bike more slicker. Problem is, they didn’t make the exhaust looks integrated on the design. Hopefully an aftermarket exhaust will make it look better. Ducati stock underbelly exhaust always look like it’s part of the design. Yamaha didn’t seem to bother. But last r6 and this r9 almost looks the same. Aside from the exhaust and wings.
Weighs as much as an s1000 and is a 900cc bike that has less power than basically every 600. 117hp isn’t small by any means and its great that it isn’t only available at the peak of the mountain but I expect more for a bike of its size and weight
I'm an R6 rider too, and I agree with you. Nothing wrong with the R9 itself, I don't care about the specs and whatnot. It just looks ugly and I will probably never get one.
Last Gen r6 was why I started riding. So beautiful But was cheaper for to get a brand new r1 than a r6 😅 If r9 had the rear buttress and air ram without that ugly centre light I'd sell my r1 for a r9
Let’s be real, in most states in America you can really only ride in summer, half of fall and half or spring. Motorcycles are impractical. We get annoyed because you are making a toy that’s MEANT to be impractical and trying to make it sensible, which is not what sports bike riders want, most of us don’t even live in states with good back roads so getting on the interstate and taking off or leaning hard on so turn pikes is really all we have, so yes HP is important because we like the noise and we like pulling up to the meet and flexing a 200hp bike that makes our backs hurt after 45 minutes.
I can agree with anything else but paralel twins will never sound any better than supped up lawnmower. While hearing high revving 4 inline is voice that gives you goosebumps.
I mean you’re pretty much comparing v8 to inline 4 cars. They both sound really good in my opinion. But I like the mean grunt and character the 270° cranked parallels give. It’s like you’re riding a lion🦁 lol
thats the only reason id want a zx4 lol i wish i started off on one of those and not a old carbureted ninja 250, but i wanted something cheap that i wouldnt be too sad about if i dropped it and messed it up. rawdogged motorcycling with no MSF or prior motorcycling experience almost 2 months ago and as of two weeks ago i got my license and while my bike is fun cause it revs high and makes goofy 2 cylinder noises..im getting kinda bored and need new thrills on it. :(
It's not the cylinders, it's the tuning. Ducati's were 2 cylinders before the V4 came out. The beef with the R7 and R9 is that they took the naked bike engines and slapped sport bike fairings to make it look fast. No remapping or redesign. That's why it sucks.
Track days are just not practical for a lot of guys. I wanna open my garage door early on a Sunday morning and go hit the empty highways for an hour or so and then get back home and get things done. Cruising around the back roads does nothing for me. I want speed and power!!!
Could be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly love that my 2004 R6 doesn't have much power in the lower rpms. Keeps me out of trouble and makes city riding pretty chill.
I have to agree with your points except for a single thing i can't just not mention. And i'd think you'd agree, I was surprised you did not mention it. Most "sensible" riders that are on screaming 4 cylinder rockets are very aware of how impractical they are, how expensive, dangerous, you name it, but well, that isn't the point is it? I didn't get an R1 for it to be practical or sensible, I got it because its freaking awesome, and so do most riders that have 3+ neurons. If I wanted a sensible practical cheap machine i'd be feeling like I am riding the bike equivalent of a cubicle office. I am not loving this current trend of sensible machines because it feels like the market wants to tell me what I should like, there is no passion, just controlled practicality. And don't get me wrong I do have a sensible practical motorcycle, but its for practical things, the R1 is for fun, even if i'm a slowpoke, its the awe of knowing it will kill me the moment i dare think i have full control of it.
I always tell my "practical bike" rider friends that I didn't get my CBR1000RR for practicality, got it for the feel it gives me and knowing that neither me or anyone else in the street see much of such machines make me feel special.
Harleys are twins. That is a great sound. CBX's have online 6s. 6 CYLINDERS!! Other than the Harleys that is my favorite motorcycle motor sound... the CBX
@@jamesjanney4440its kinda similar to the old "low revving rumbly high displacement V8 sound vs i4 and 6 cylinder sound" debate. everyones got a different opinion.
Yammy a nissan rouge is more practical than a McLaren. We don't want practical. We don't want a commuting bike. We have crossover suvs for that. We want speed. And sound. And your gsx8r doesn't do what my zx10r does when I want to go fast. Most super sport riders are not daily riding.
@slimfit767 rider skill certainly makes a difference but at some point power counts. Assuming I can't beat a bike with less than half the power is crazy.
Stop it. Parallel twins are bleugh and trying to make them appealing is putting lipstick on a pig. You can make any engine have torque and tractability, but can it have a personality? That Z900 engine you hate is less than 120 HP and is really nice to use, but you can also wring it out and make it make fun noises and stuff. It beats any parallel twin, it’s just more expensive and harder to beat those pointless emissions laws.
I ride a 2016 R6 and my buddy rides a ‘24 MT09. I love the screaming inline 4 and hitting twisty backroads and doing what the bike was made to do. But when I cruise with my friend and he takes off from me while I’m waiting to hit the power band… it’s really making me consider the R9. Especially since I’ve ridden his MT09. If the R9 is just that but the sport bike version it’d be great. I want to sit on one and feel the ergonomics before make any official decisions though.
I really want a gxsr 600 and I promise to be the middle between the spectrum of “squid” and “guy that wears full racing suit and has stripes just to go to the grocery store” 😂
I have a street triple RS and looking for a fully faired track only bike. While looking at a R7, the salesman walked by me saying “why are you looking at a slower bike?” I felt like he was just building rapport, or upselling to a liter bike - but haven’t been able to shake the thought that even considering a slower bike for fun was a dumb idea… Thought you’d find this current phenomena interesting!
As someone who rides a Triple RS on track as well, I have to admit I have been gapped by 400s and R7s on turns with much better riders than me. Track is a great equalizer, more about skill than horsepower.
I have a bazzaz tuned k5 Gsxr and it hits SO hard down low so is best of both worlds…over 8,000 rpm puts you in another dimension and under 8,000 it’s like a big punchy twin but super smooth and so raw with its induction growl. I absolutely love it and will never part with it. I even wear gear.
The R9 is prolly gonna be awesome...and I'm faster around the track on my RS 660 than some people on 600s...but that insane screaming 4 cylinder sound is sooo alluring!
I don’t care about torque, I don’t care about someone’s claim on how i will never use “all the usable” power, and I definitely don’t give two capital F’s about comfort! If it does not start to redline at 16k, or it’s not 4 cylinder, it’s NOT a Supersport!
Finally someone else who understands riding is for your mental health and enjoyment, instead of fitting in to a mould someone else wants to put you in. I have zx4rr zx6r 500 and Chinese dirt bikes. I remember when he was talking crap about zx4rr and now look at him. He's about getting paid these days and nothing more
I used to rock in a full leather suit to my local Macca's because that's all I could afford while being full protected. Then I bought more discreet looking gear over time.
In my 40s now and sadly my body is too broken from doing rad things to want to mostly ride a sport bike. Enjoy it while it lasts fellas. Great memories! It’s is awesome there are so many types of bikes and riding. Motorcyclist forever. Don’t fear trying something different. They are all fun.
What do we think the odds are that now Yam is a dad he's become an ADV Dad, so in 30 years when he's a grandpa, he's got a Goldwing, Harley, or BMW tourer?
And why does every 600 guy think his bike does 170+? Why don't any of them understand the concept of speedo error... You can even show them that their new ZX6R is gearing limited to 156mph, but they just stick their fingers in their ears and keep claiming their 600 has a tune and does 174 and hangs with Busa's all day... It's annoying AF.
It's less about sport bike riders, and more about the posers and squids that make up a portion of the sport bike community. A lot of us are riders, and we know that a bike is the sum of its parts and not a single number on a spec sheet. Most of the guys whining about this stuff, are the highway heroes... the guys that spend more time posing for Instagram... Get them on track or a really twisty road and they are the slowest guys out there...
I revel in the roast. I bathe in the memes. I absolutely lather myself in the stereotype. 😅 It's just too much fun. Sports bikes are just too much fun but I daily ride a scooter. Haha
That's the thing, many of sport bikes idiot literlaly daily a 600 or a thousand. You daily a scooter, that's very smart and ia appreciate that. Not someone who buys a race bike to ride in the street 🤦.
Funny enough not all R6 riders hate on the R9. If that was the case then I wouldn't have ordered a White and Red R9. Even though I've no plans to ever get rid of my R6. I'll just go back and forth with each getting to be my daily. Then I'll see with I prefer for more aggressive technical riding in the mountains.
Unless someone makes a boring twin (or 3 cylinder) sound 100% as good as an inline 4, then I will never ever consider buying anything other than good ole 4 cylinder with the sound I dreamed of and loved my whole life
The trend away from inline 4 cylinder bikes is due to emissions alone. Equal displacement in fewer cylinders = less overall cylinder surface area = easier to meet emissions.
If Shelby said that, he was wrong, or at best not entirely right. The most you can say for torque is that there are some races where it's more important, such as a track with lots of slow, tight corners. Anything involving mostly higher speeds, horsepower wins 10 times out of 10. This is why Formula 1 cars chase horsepower over torque. They can run at ridiculous RPM almost the whole time, so they're much better off with extremely short stroke engines that make huge horsepower via RPM, not big torque.
I like all bikes, but i`d feel very embarrassed when a comfortable sitting, relaxed Yamaha V- Max or Rocket 3 rider crushes me off the traffic lights in my super loud, super expensive, super modded and super uncomfortable sports bike.
This was gold! 😂😂😂 I probably was one of those die hard riders that took it way too serious when I first started, had an R6 as well. Now a bit older, I enjoy a variety of different motorcycles. I like the power cruiser I have, I like my Duc SFV4S, and I enjoy the experience my V4R gives me as well. The V4R is absolutely overkill and impractical for day to day riding, but it’s a blast for the use case it was designed for - arguably the best. Regardless of which bike I’m riding, I wear full gear, helmet, gauntlet gloves, jacket, pants (leather), and boots. Some may say it’s overkill, but having had a an accident on that R6 because an Escalade driver decided he deserved the piece of road I was occupying more than I did - I’m only here because I was wearing full gear that day and God’s grace. So I will continue to wear it every time I ride and say a prayer… because it’ll literally save your life!
@ yeah but those are dirt bikes so what’s your point I’m not upset that it makes 117 just slightly disappointed is all plus we can get more power out of it anyway🤷♂️
@@AstroBot-bc0213 just pointin out that correlating cc to hp is silly. thats my point. see 1500hp 2.0L civics and 1.8L harleys with less than a 100 hp for example.
@@AstroBot-bc0213 So, the R9's wet weight is 430 lbs. The outgoing model of R6 is 419 with the early models being.... 430 lbs. Have you looked at that? are we upset about 10 lbs? and the same weight for older models? how could you think that? and with cruise control and many other features the R6 lacks I dunno. bandwagon hate is what I chalk it up to. your hating on weight and didnt even know it weighed the same hehe. Also, bigger bikes ride better. its facts.
The sports bike hate is real! I own a sports bike. I also own a naked bike. When I want to be comfortable and have some fun, I hop on the naked bike. When I want to have a thrilling ride, get that rush, and listen to the sounds, it’s the super sport! Guess which one I ride more….. it’s not the naked bike! I understand the draw of the new crop of bikes. But, they appeal to mostly newer bike riders. I have a friend who has an older 600. Guess what bike he wants next? It’s not one of these newer bikes. Not saying they are bad. They serve a purpose. He wants a super sport! There is just an allure of owning one that can’t be duplicated by something else! People want what they want. I can respect that! No reason to hate on someone from wanting something different than me! Be safe and have fun on whatever you ride!
I have a passion for intense acceleration, and peak horsepower plays a significant role in achieving that. In general, lower peak horsepower equates to reduced acceleration. While I've ridden the MT-09, it doesn't match the experience of my R1
From a non sports bike guy, it’s fun to build all the power out of an engine. Insecure is one thing but I can see why normal people would opt for bigger engine sizes or horsepower output. I like the racing side of stuff but the mechanic part is honestly more fun to me as a hot take, I know that’s not a common opinion lol
Torque pulls ya out of a corner not horsepower. Hence why the SV650 is such a brilliant track bike. Twins, whether L, V or Parallel, are brilliant ripping corners.
I have been riding everything I could since the 4th grade. I’m 41 now and I’ll let you guys in on a cheap gem 💎 of a bike. The buell xb12R. Italian frame second to none, less than 400lbs, more than 100hp, 89ftlbs out of a Harley air cooled v twin. Usable power, comfort, style and a great American story behind the hand crafted heavily engineered brand.
The R6 with an exhaust and tune only makes 118 to the wheels. I the R9 with an exhaust and tune will make 118. They R9 makes 50% more torque and the R6 never comes close to the same torque. Just to clear up what Papa yamm and explain it's not exactly the correct.
Im 19 years old with multiple nice super sports including an HP4 comp BUT also greatly appreciate all bikes. Have had 4 different Groms, a bad ass street legal KTM 500, a few dirt bikes and also a Ninja 400 that I absolutely LOVED and took it to Tail of the Dragon. I go fast but usually wear a jacket and nice gloves/boots and appreciate all bikes for the most part lol. There's a time and place for everything and could even see myself on a super cool Harley Sportster in the future. Video was spot on though, love the comedy!
don't care one bit about the peak power. i care about the sound and feel. the zx4rr is the best thing to come out in years. all the sound all the feel none of the speed to get it. i'm probably gonna get buried with my zx4
It's not even about how it rides or how much power it has, I literally just like the flat plane crank inline 4 sound. Like yeah other things can sound good, but to me nothing will sound as good as an inline 4
Here I am with an R3 trying to figure out if I want a Harley, R9, or an adventure bike for my second bike... I'm basically trying to figure out which way I want to be made fun of on a bike.
Yooo... Loved the content.. indeed convincing and true .. the same applies to the HD dudes, Honda Civic, scuba diving, jeepers and GYM heads .. however, I am a newbie Riding HD 1200 sposter.. i would love to watch you roasting us too .. please 🥺
I got a 600 thinking I’d outgrow it within a year of riding and then get a 1,000 but I realized that the 600 is just so much more fun and practical than a 1,000 and it’s crazy because at the time I never knew what you could do to a 600 like getting a big bore kit or just upgrade to a 636 and it’s crazy how much more power an throttle you get just from that let alone a 1,000…
I can confirm RS660 is fun. What is more important, perhaps, is the fact that it's still quite versatile and you can use much of its capabilities on a highway, and not just the track.
I love me a good P twin with it's extremely usable and accessible power at lower rpms...with that being said it can never replace that terrifying top end rush of a 1000cc inline 4! That's why I own both.
The thing that gets me is when Reddit discussions about recommendations for beginners focus on stat sheet figures. People will say things like 600cc or 60 HP are too much for a beginner, but really, neither of those figures tells you anything about how a motorcycle feels pulling out of your driveway at low speed. I would argue that initial throttle response is the single most important factor in how beginner-friendly a motorcycle is, and there's no stat for that. You just have to try them and see. My family freaked out when they heard I bought an 800cc cruiser for my first motorcycle, but what they didn't understand was that it was really smooth off the line, much less jumpy than the smaller bike I took my MSF course on. I ride that thing like a granny in a Corola, displacement be damned. Peak power figures are completely irrelevant unless someone plans to be wide open throttle in top gear.
I own an FJ-09 alongside an SV650, and I honesty just can't see myself going back to an inline 4. As cool as they sound, I have way more fun with the platforms in my garage now. I'm really glad Yamaha finally revealed an R9, that engine is an absolute beast and I've always felt it deserved a more sporty setup for those who want it.
For me it's just the sound lol... as corny as that sounds or childish -.- I just love how a 4 cylinder bike sounds. They could be capped at 85MPH for all I care... If it sounds cool then im down! Riding a bike- 250cc 1000cc - all of it is still fun since you are on two wheels and exposed to the elements. People get lost in what other people think even though most have 0 friends any way lmfao. I don't have social media so I just buy and ride what I like - Zx4rr rider here :) it's my dream bike for what it is. I don't think trying to bash any rider is good for the community - I know most of this is tongue and cheeky humor - but most people really believe this and it just make people dislike certain riders. I can care less if you wear full leather or ride butt ass naked- how does that effect me? just happy to see more riders :)
@@coolT21323I have zx4rr zx6r and what I'd love to see in Australia would be zx25r. I'd put cash down the second the announcement was made (won't happen in my life time!)
I couldn't agree more. I hate how Australia doesn't get zx25 bikes. I have zx4rr zx6r in the meantime but zx25 would be perfect considering our speed limit is now snail pace
I think this was only fair if it was only R6 guy complaining. But those are just easy targets. I do get the feeling that more and more bread and butter machines with fancy electronics that are far less expensive to produce gets pushed down every sportsriders throat, trying to convince us all that that R9 117 hp is "enough for everybody". And if not, we don't know what we're talking about and we should all "learn to ride first". It's fine to love and buy those bikes, but please spare me the attitude that we don't know what we like. There is a universe between 117 and 217 hp, so don't come and tell that "noone has use for 200+ hp". They could offer lots in the middle, but I bet that means less revenue. So now the industry decided that they should tell sportsriders to come to their senses and buy between 660 and 890 cubics and be happy already.
yep. switched from a 600rr to a 650r and my enjoyment in riding has probably doubled. meanwhile my boys are thinking about jumping from their 600s to the 1ks...
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who hurt you man, wth
@yammienoob i see you don’t have any 750 vids ill let u use my 2025 gsxr 750 in one of your videos would love to see you try it out and see what you think
with the give aways?? can the bikes go overseas??
Problem is most dont know how to use it in a corner
"in his 40s, wears leathers for a weekend ride, and hangs out with 20 year olds"
And I took that shit personally. I legit stopped making my breakfast and said HEY!
😂😂😂 same 😖
Hit like a ton of bricks 🤪 🙃 🙂 😢😢😢
For Real though
I’m right there withya bro, but checkit. Its 2024, if guys can pretend they’re girls, i can identify as a 25yo. My pronouns are forever young.
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Bro became an ADV dad and now he flames his own people 😮😢
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Sportbikes just look cool bro give us a break :)
And sound cool
And there fast af
Agree 🤘🏻
Ride what you like and be happy at the end of the day, I'll keep my comments to myself, "if you don't have anything nice to say" and all
Nothing worse than seeing a whole bunch of cruisers,nothing better than a whole bunch of sport and naked sport bikes 🫡👍🤘🤘🤘
I'm sorry, I can't hear your opinion over my screaming 750cc i4. 😂
Yes my people are still alive love my 750
Nothing beats the raw visceral sound an old carbureted Honda SOHC 750 makes as you kickstart it and run through the gears. They did it first, and did it right even though today I’ll get slammed by a dude on a Ninja 400. I’ll laugh in 70’s exhaust note though, and give a solid thumbs up.
Got my a 750 v4 (it’s a custom vfr750 with cbr1000 fairings)
@Domthemechanic been seriously considering doing this mod to my 800. Is it difficult to do?
@ to do it the right way yeah. I did it kinda ghetto so it was just an easy weekend project. Need to buy cbr subframe, fairings, wire everything yourself (wiring was almost a plug and play) my fairings are held together with self tappers but from about 10 feet away it looks fine😂
A 4 cylinder that just keeps pulling and revs to the moon is just something special man.
It's not about the specs at all.
Then get a 250cc 4 cylinder screamer by that logic..
@@Itsthebikeman not available in the US and Europe
@Itsthebikeman dude I would love a r25 or zx25 but we can't in America, have an r1 and a zx4 and proud of it
@@Itsthebikeman I would LOVE to have a 250cc 4cil on the side. But they were never sold here, are very rare a cost a lot.
So i'm hoping to add an R6 to my GS one day.
@@Itsthebikeman 250 4bangers don't keep pulling.....in fact they never even start pulling.
The whole point of sitting in a back breaking position isn’t because we want nice torque and power in the lower and middle of the power band. It’s because that raw top end power is adrenaline pumping. If anyone wanted a “town friendly” power band, they wouldn’t buy a super sport style bike.
Thats why less people are buying them
So you live on a race track or do you just make poor choices?
yes thats the point
Power band friendly super sport style is a pointless concept. The equivalent of buying a super car, along with all the impracticalites and none of the extreme aspects in terms of power.
In other words, the r9 and r7’s are ricers. Buy an mt-09.
thats why we have naked bike for nice seat /all the fun of a 4 lol
How does one give away "over" 53 motorcycles without giving away 54? Did someone receive a bucket of parts?
LOL!!!! This comment is under rated! Never really thought of that!
Did someone receive a bucket of parts?
Yeah, whoever won the gsx8r
Did he say "fifty-three" or "fifty free"? Don't care enough to watch again.
As a sportbike rider i pretty much agree with everything you said 😂. Im tired of hearing my friend whos crashed his 250 ninja 3 times say that he NEEDS a 1000... Like bro is trying to become a statistic 🤦🏼
it sounds like you going to need a replacement friend
Crashed 3 times??? Maybe he should go back to the basics and hop on a bicycle.
@@christian6381 legit half the people who ride in my area
That’s just sad. Tell him to sell it. Ridden for over 8 years now and hit a 6 track days w over 30k miles under my belt and have yet to go down. Its not for everyone
For practiality i have a car. I ride motorcycles for fun and emotions. You can ride your boring ass parallel twins, i´ll have my inline four everyday over this.
I have been riding since 1990 and 100% agree. The cb550ss I used to have was more fun than a new twin. I can't ride a sport bike anymore, but I will keep my 1000sx until I can't get on it anymore unless I can get an h2sx.
I believe in this mindset
This video is like trying to convince a person who like muscle cars to sell you all the good things to get you to buy a electric car
He has definitely changed his content. Shame in my eyes. I'm 45 and still buying and riding sport bikes. I'd never burn a fellow rider. Yammienoob is earning the big bucks so I understand why he tries controversial topics
as an R6 rider i think people that complain about the R9 horsepower are dumb, the only thing i criticize about the R9 is that at least to me it's uglier than the last gen R6
They went for an underbelly exhaust which actually makes the bike more slicker. Problem is, they didn’t make the exhaust looks integrated on the design. Hopefully an aftermarket exhaust will make it look better. Ducati stock underbelly exhaust always look like it’s part of the design. Yamaha didn’t seem to bother. But last r6 and this r9 almost looks the same. Aside from the exhaust and wings.
Definitely true
Weighs as much as an s1000 and is a 900cc bike that has less power than basically every 600. 117hp isn’t small by any means and its great that it isn’t only available at the peak of the mountain but I expect more for a bike of its size and weight
I'm an R6 rider too, and I agree with you. Nothing wrong with the R9 itself, I don't care about the specs and whatnot. It just looks ugly and I will probably never get one.
Last Gen r6 was why I started riding. So beautiful
But was cheaper for to get a brand new r1 than a r6 😅
If r9 had the rear buttress and air ram without that ugly centre light I'd sell my r1 for a r9
Let’s be real, in most states in America you can really only ride in summer, half of fall and half or spring. Motorcycles are impractical. We get annoyed because you are making a toy that’s MEANT to be impractical and trying to make it sensible, which is not what sports bike riders want, most of us don’t even live in states with good back roads so getting on the interstate and taking off or leaning hard on so turn pikes is really all we have, so yes HP is important because we like the noise and we like pulling up to the meet and flexing a 200hp bike that makes our backs hurt after 45 minutes.
I can agree with anything else but paralel twins will never sound any better than supped up lawnmower. While hearing high revving 4 inline is voice that gives you goosebumps.
I mean you’re pretty much comparing v8 to inline 4 cars. They both sound really good in my opinion. But I like the mean grunt and character the 270° cranked parallels give. It’s like you’re riding a lion🦁 lol
180° parallel twins like the ninja 650 definitely sound like lawn mowers though😂
Kawasaki sounds like crap. However the Suzuki has a bit of a v-twin sound on the low side, and two stroke with bass sound on the high side.
@@brokensmilephotoI loved my sv650 thumpy reminded me of a quad sound.
@@vebez5993 yeah... that ninja 650 sound (and worst power in the twin 650 class) is the reason I didn't get one. Lucky me that they made the 4RR
I simply ride a zx4 so I can sound like an f1 car at school zone speeds
thats the only reason id want a zx4 lol i wish i started off on one of those and not a old carbureted ninja 250, but i wanted something cheap that i wouldnt be too sad about if i dropped it and messed it up. rawdogged motorcycling with no MSF or prior motorcycling experience almost 2 months ago and as of two weeks ago i got my license and while my bike is fun cause it revs high and makes goofy 2 cylinder noises..im getting kinda bored and need new thrills on it. :(
@@adorablecenturion8436 The ZX4 is way too much for a beginner you made the right choice.
This guy gets it.
It's not the cylinders, it's the tuning. Ducati's were 2 cylinders before the V4 came out. The beef with the R7 and R9 is that they took the naked bike engines and slapped sport bike fairings to make it look fast. No remapping or redesign. That's why it sucks.
They did change the maps they added imu and cornering Abs and they have a whole different frame in the R9. Do your research before you post
I agree that Ducati twins sound awesome, as do the V4’s.
@@devindalrymple1069 The R9 is barely a replacement for the R6 but not close to a contender for the R1!
Track days are just not practical for a lot of guys. I wanna open my garage door early on a Sunday morning and go hit the empty highways for an hour or so and then get back home and get things done. Cruising around the back roads does nothing for me. I want speed and power!!!
I'm from Bama and I just wanna go fast! Shake n Bake, baby!
I basically do the same thing. haha
Same here! Although, the midnight hours work best for me.😈
And your spending a crap load of money to ride on a track for a couple of hours. Not everyone is rich either.
So basically u can only ride fast in a straight line,got it.
Nothing will ever replace the symphony that is the R1 crossplane
Besides the roar of an Italian v4.....
Im a i4 (flatplane only) guy but the v4 and also a triple sounds better than the crossplane
@@rxl-soul8514 Interesting take considering the crossplane 4 sounds EXTREMELY similar to aprillia's v4.
@@kleinbottled79 Aprilia rsv4 maybe
honda's 360° v4 engines sound better imo
Naked sport bikes have been a godsend for the aging sportbike lover. It's nice to get the performance in a more comfortable package.
yep my cb600f is perfect for my bad back lol
MT10SP😎
Could be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly love that my 2004 R6 doesn't have much power in the lower rpms. Keeps me out of trouble and makes city riding pretty chill.
Bro crashed his bike and now scared of power 😂 go figure
I’ll hold on to my GSXR 750 as long as I can. I like the new bikes but the sweet spot from to 600-1000 is a fun place to live.
GSXR 750 4 LIFE BRO. Sorry these new bikes like R7, R9 and Gsx 8 are soft like chocha!
Inline 4s sound better imo.
V4s have entered the chat*
@@vebez5993 V4's sound amazing (Except Ducati V4's). Inline4's sound orgasmic. Inline6's are absolute bonkers.
@@vebez5993 V4 is great but the bass effect of I4 is next level
@@VAIBHAVMALHOTRA19 i prefer the inline 4 sound, but if anything V4s have a bassier tone
@@dorayaki5494 there's no new i6 in production though arent there? i would've love one just for the sound, probably couldnt afford it
Yammie always alienates everyone and then tries to get a beer off them
I have to agree with your points except for a single thing i can't just not mention. And i'd think you'd agree, I was surprised you did not mention it. Most "sensible" riders that are on screaming 4 cylinder rockets are very aware of how impractical they are, how expensive, dangerous, you name it, but well, that isn't the point is it? I didn't get an R1 for it to be practical or sensible, I got it because its freaking awesome, and so do most riders that have 3+ neurons. If I wanted a sensible practical cheap machine i'd be feeling like I am riding the bike equivalent of a cubicle office. I am not loving this current trend of sensible machines because it feels like the market wants to tell me what I should like, there is no passion, just controlled practicality. And don't get me wrong I do have a sensible practical motorcycle, but its for practical things, the R1 is for fun, even if i'm a slowpoke, its the awe of knowing it will kill me the moment i dare think i have full control of it.
I always tell my "practical bike" rider friends that I didn't get my CBR1000RR for practicality, got it for the feel it gives me and knowing that neither me or anyone else in the street see much of such machines make me feel special.
Whatever you say but no matter how more practical 2-cylinder bikes are, they can NEVER make the sound better than the 4-cylinder bikes
Harleys are twins. That is a great sound. CBX's have online 6s. 6 CYLINDERS!! Other than the Harleys that is my favorite motorcycle motor sound... the CBX
Ducati disagrees...
@@jamesjanney4440its kinda similar to the old "low revving rumbly high displacement V8 sound vs i4 and 6 cylinder sound" debate. everyones got a different opinion.
@@7ate7 I was thinking the exact same thing, lol!
6:26 it’s not an “obsession with power” it’s an obsession with RIDING!!!
Yammy a nissan rouge is more practical than a McLaren. We don't want practical. We don't want a commuting bike. We have crossover suvs for that. We want speed. And sound. And your gsx8r doesn't do what my zx10r does when I want to go fast.
Most super sport riders are not daily riding.
A good rider on that gsx8r would leave u in the dust.
@slimfit767 no they wouldn't.
@@pro20digy20 i once smoked a guy on a 600cc bike with my 100cc scooter😂. If u think riding a zx10r means you're fast,u got alot to learn.
@slimfit767 rider skill certainly makes a difference but at some point power counts. Assuming I can't beat a bike with less than half the power is crazy.
Stop it. Parallel twins are bleugh and trying to make them appealing is putting lipstick on a pig. You can make any engine have torque and tractability, but can it have a personality? That Z900 engine you hate is less than 120 HP and is really nice to use, but you can also wring it out and make it make fun noises and stuff. It beats any parallel twin, it’s just more expensive and harder to beat those pointless emissions laws.
"I always say this about old cars and motorcycles, and old drums: I love them, but new ones are better." -Neil Peart
Yammie sounding like a good ol Honda owner now🎉
Definitely a changed man lol. Now it's about getting paid and not about the enjoyment
That's why i like the r3. It's cozy, quick enough to do what you need it to do, but it makes sense on the road
I ride a 2016 R6 and my buddy rides a ‘24 MT09. I love the screaming inline 4 and hitting twisty backroads and doing what the bike was made to do. But when I cruise with my friend and he takes off from me while I’m waiting to hit the power band… it’s really making me consider the R9. Especially since I’ve ridden his MT09. If the R9 is just that but the sport bike version it’d be great. I want to sit on one and feel the ergonomics before make any official decisions though.
TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYAL
I really want a gxsr 600 and I promise to be the middle between the spectrum of “squid” and “guy that wears full racing suit and has stripes just to go to the grocery store” 😂
I have a street triple RS and looking for a fully faired track only bike. While looking at a R7, the salesman walked by me saying “why are you looking at a slower bike?” I felt like he was just building rapport, or upselling to a liter bike - but haven’t been able to shake the thought that even considering a slower bike for fun was a dumb idea… Thought you’d find this current phenomena interesting!
I’m in the same boat. Love my Street Triple, but would love to have a backup 600 super sport for track duty.
As someone who rides a Triple RS on track as well, I have to admit I have been gapped by 400s and R7s on turns with much better riders than me. Track is a great equalizer, more about skill than horsepower.
I have a bazzaz tuned k5 Gsxr and it hits SO hard down low so is best of both worlds…over 8,000 rpm puts you in another dimension and under 8,000 it’s like a big punchy twin but super smooth and so raw with its induction growl. I absolutely love it and will never part with it. I even wear gear.
The R9 is prolly gonna be awesome...and I'm faster around the track on my RS 660 than some people on 600s...but that insane screaming 4 cylinder sound is sooo alluring!
That's exactly where triples fit in... You've got the torque, the sound and also the top end power... 765's and CP3's are awesome.
"Have Japanese Motorcycles LOST their WAY?"
Are inline 4 cylinder motorcycles a dying breed?
Does 1 + 1 = 2??
I don’t care about torque, I don’t care about someone’s claim on how i will never use “all the usable” power, and I definitely don’t give two capital F’s about comfort! If it does not start to redline at 16k, or it’s not 4 cylinder, it’s NOT a Supersport!
Finally someone else who understands riding is for your mental health and enjoyment, instead of fitting in to a mould someone else wants to put you in. I have zx4rr zx6r 500 and Chinese dirt bikes. I remember when he was talking crap about zx4rr and now look at him. He's about getting paid these days and nothing more
yes, this lmao
if i want comfort ill drive my old couch of a car, thats what its for
bike rev high, fun time.
What's so fun about back and wrist pain?
Man, all I want is a bike that looks like TF Prime Arcee. That's why I'm into sport bikes.
I used to rock in a full leather suit to my local Macca's because that's all I could afford while being full protected. Then I bought more discreet looking gear over time.
Yammie really exposed kids who are all talk just about numbers on paper and arent even using them lol
The R7/R9 should be called MTR7 & MTR9.
In my 40s now and sadly my body is too broken from doing rad things to want to mostly ride a sport bike. Enjoy it while it lasts fellas. Great memories! It’s is awesome there are so many types of bikes and riding. Motorcyclist forever.
Don’t fear trying something different. They are all fun.
Yam from 5 years ago is so disappointed in you and has no idea where you learned words like sensible, usable, and good enough. I'm here for it
What do we think the odds are that now Yam is a dad he's become an ADV Dad, so in 30 years when he's a grandpa, he's got a Goldwing, Harley, or BMW tourer?
@@jordandollar4141 lmao for real. this is like the 50th video he's made on this topic too. its getting old imo
Just because a 1000 is unaffordable to most people doesn't mean it should be discontinued. For those of us who can still afford it, it's what we want.
And why does every 600 guy think his bike does 170+? Why don't any of them understand the concept of speedo error... You can even show them that their new ZX6R is gearing limited to 156mph, but they just stick their fingers in their ears and keep claiming their 600 has a tune and does 174 and hangs with Busa's all day... It's annoying AF.
It's less about sport bike riders, and more about the posers and squids that make up a portion of the sport bike community. A lot of us are riders, and we know that a bike is the sum of its parts and not a single number on a spec sheet. Most of the guys whining about this stuff, are the highway heroes... the guys that spend more time posing for Instagram... Get them on track or a really twisty road and they are the slowest guys out there...
I revel in the roast. I bathe in the memes. I absolutely lather myself in the stereotype. 😅 It's just too much fun. Sports bikes are just too much fun but I daily ride a scooter. Haha
That's the thing, many of sport bikes idiot literlaly daily a 600 or a thousand. You daily a scooter, that's very smart and ia appreciate that. Not someone who buys a race bike to ride in the street 🤦.
The word alone "Superbike " will always be cool that's like saying the Marvel Avengers suck 😆
Funny enough not all R6 riders hate on the R9. If that was the case then I wouldn't have ordered a White and Red R9. Even though I've no plans to ever get rid of my R6. I'll just go back and forth with each getting to be my daily. Then I'll see with I prefer for more aggressive technical riding in the mountains.
Unless someone makes a boring twin (or 3 cylinder) sound 100% as good as an inline 4, then I will never ever consider buying anything other than good ole 4 cylinder with the sound I dreamed of and loved my whole life
0:58 is this not the case?
Motorcycle=inline 4.
Fin.
For real. I have a 1000cc Superbike and a 650cc lowered hardtail bobber with apehangers. Both are amazingly fun to ride and both are in line 4s
That was the nicest thing I've ever heard yammie say about harley riders
This has to be one of the best roast ever 🤣🤣 got me every second lmao
The trend away from inline 4 cylinder bikes is due to emissions alone. Equal displacement in fewer cylinders = less overall cylinder surface area = easier to meet emissions.
I love my ZX6R. Not sure if I ever want to leave the sport bike side of motorcycles
The sound of a 4 cylinders bike is something that cannot be overlooked.
The supersport engine is art, you don't need to reach peak power to appreciate it.
Bro hated on the GSX-8S before riding it and now the GSX-8R lives in his head rent free, I love it.
in the immortal words of carroll Shelby, torque wins races, horsepower sells cars. or motorcycles in this case.
If Shelby said that, he was wrong, or at best not entirely right. The most you can say for torque is that there are some races where it's more important, such as a track with lots of slow, tight corners. Anything involving mostly higher speeds, horsepower wins 10 times out of 10. This is why Formula 1 cars chase horsepower over torque. They can run at ridiculous RPM almost the whole time, so they're much better off with extremely short stroke engines that make huge horsepower via RPM, not big torque.
This man has no shame in comparing a 600cc with a 900cc. Without lying, the 900c will have more torque at mid-range? What a scoop!
I like all bikes, but i`d feel very embarrassed when a comfortable sitting, relaxed Yamaha V- Max or Rocket 3 rider crushes me off the traffic lights in my super loud, super expensive, super modded and super uncomfortable sports bike.
This was gold! 😂😂😂 I probably was one of those die hard riders that took it way too serious when I first started, had an R6 as well. Now a bit older, I enjoy a variety of different motorcycles. I like the power cruiser I have, I like my Duc SFV4S, and I enjoy the experience my V4R gives me as well. The V4R is absolutely overkill and impractical for day to day riding, but it’s a blast for the use case it was designed for - arguably the best. Regardless of which bike I’m riding, I wear full gear, helmet, gauntlet gloves, jacket, pants (leather), and boots. Some may say it’s overkill, but having had a an accident on that R6 because an Escalade driver decided he deserved the piece of road I was occupying more than I did - I’m only here because I was wearing full gear that day and God’s grace. So I will continue to wear it every time I ride and say a prayer… because it’ll literally save your life!
My beloved MT09 is sitting here very nervous about being traded in for the long waited R9, but I haven’t made that decision yet
I find the 4 cylinders sound trumps twins all day though, will never go back willingly under 4 cylinders again
I still think it is pretty disappointing that the r9 is only 117hp it’s a 900cc bike that weighs almost as much as an s1000
wait till you hear about the 650cc DR650 that makes 30 HP...
@ yeah but those are dirt bikes so what’s your point I’m not upset that it makes 117 just slightly disappointed is all plus we can get more power out of it anyway🤷♂️
@@AstroBot-bc0213 just pointin out that correlating cc to hp is silly. thats my point. see 1500hp 2.0L civics and 1.8L harleys with less than a 100 hp for example.
@@High_Octane that wasn't really what I was going for I was just putting emphasis on how big and heavy it is but that was a silly thing to do
@@AstroBot-bc0213 So, the R9's wet weight is 430 lbs. The outgoing model of R6 is 419 with the early models being.... 430 lbs. Have you looked at that? are we upset about 10 lbs? and the same weight for older models? how could you think that? and with cruise control and many other features the R6 lacks I dunno. bandwagon hate is what I chalk it up to. your hating on weight and didnt even know it weighed the same hehe. Also, bigger bikes ride better. its facts.
The sports bike hate is real! I own a sports bike. I also own a naked bike. When I want to be comfortable and have some fun, I hop on the naked bike. When I want to have a thrilling ride, get that rush, and listen to the sounds, it’s the super sport! Guess which one I ride more….. it’s not the naked bike! I understand the draw of the new crop of bikes. But, they appeal to mostly newer bike riders. I have a friend who has an older 600. Guess what bike he wants next? It’s not one of these newer bikes. Not saying they are bad. They serve a purpose. He wants a super sport! There is just an allure of owning one that can’t be duplicated by something else! People want what they want. I can respect that! No reason to hate on someone from wanting something different than me! Be safe and have fun on whatever you ride!
I feel personally attacked by this video, love your content yammie dude😂😂
I have a passion for intense acceleration, and peak horsepower plays a significant role in achieving that. In general, lower peak horsepower equates to reduced acceleration. While I've ridden the MT-09, it doesn't match the experience of my R1
As someone with an R1, I love the new R7. I wouldn't mind picking one up if I wasn't already planning on picking up a touring bike.
From a non sports bike guy, it’s fun to build all the power out of an engine. Insecure is one thing but I can see why normal people would opt for bigger engine sizes or horsepower output. I like the racing side of stuff but the mechanic part is honestly more fun to me as a hot take, I know that’s not a common opinion lol
Yammie made a full circle and turned into a marketologist dream client 😂
Torque pulls ya out of a corner not horsepower. Hence why the SV650 is such a brilliant track bike. Twins, whether L, V or Parallel, are brilliant ripping corners.
I have been riding everything I could since the 4th grade. I’m 41 now and I’ll let you guys in on a cheap gem 💎 of a bike. The buell xb12R. Italian frame second to none, less than 400lbs, more than 100hp, 89ftlbs out of a Harley air cooled v twin. Usable power, comfort, style and a great American story behind the hand crafted heavily engineered brand.
As an RJ15 rider I agree with everything you said and I will never change my mind!
There’s nothing more fun on two wheels than an R6.
yammie continues to slowly devolve into a harley guy
The R6 with an exhaust and tune only makes 118 to the wheels. I the R9 with an exhaust and tune will make 118. They R9 makes 50% more torque and the R6 never comes close to the same torque.
Just to clear up what Papa yamm and explain it's not exactly the correct.
Im 19 years old with multiple nice super sports including an HP4 comp BUT also greatly appreciate all bikes. Have had 4 different Groms, a bad ass street legal KTM 500, a few dirt bikes and also a Ninja 400 that I absolutely LOVED and took it to Tail of the Dragon. I go fast but usually wear a jacket and nice gloves/boots and appreciate all bikes for the most part lol. There's a time and place for everything and could even see myself on a super cool Harley Sportster in the future. Video was spot on though, love the comedy!
don't care one bit about the peak power. i care about the sound and feel. the zx4rr is the best thing to come out in years. all the sound all the feel none of the speed to get it. i'm probably gonna get buried with my zx4
It's not even about how it rides or how much power it has, I literally just like the flat plane crank inline 4 sound. Like yeah other things can sound good, but to me nothing will sound as good as an inline 4
Here I am with an R3 trying to figure out if I want a Harley, R9, or an adventure bike for my second bike...
I'm basically trying to figure out which way I want to be made fun of on a bike.
@@McLeod40 best of luck to you. I enjoyed my Harley switched over to a sport bike and have never looked back, but I do understand the indecision.
Yooo... Loved the content.. indeed convincing and true .. the same applies to the HD dudes, Honda Civic, scuba diving, jeepers and GYM heads .. however, I am a newbie Riding HD 1200 sposter.. i would love to watch you roasting us too .. please 🥺
I got a 600 thinking I’d outgrow it within a year of riding and then get a 1,000 but I realized that the 600 is just so much more fun and practical than a 1,000 and it’s crazy because at the time I never knew what you could do to a 600 like getting a big bore kit or just upgrade to a 636 and it’s crazy how much more power an throttle you get just from that let alone a 1,000…
I went from a YZF-R7 to a GSXR 1000R Phantom. I genuinely miss my R7, such a fun bike to ride
I can confirm RS660 is fun. What is more important, perhaps, is the fact that it's still quite versatile and you can use much of its capabilities on a highway, and not just the track.
I love me a good P twin with it's extremely usable and accessible power at lower rpms...with that being said it can never replace that terrifying top end rush of a 1000cc inline 4! That's why I own both.
The thing that gets me is when Reddit discussions about recommendations for beginners focus on stat sheet figures. People will say things like 600cc or 60 HP are too much for a beginner, but really, neither of those figures tells you anything about how a motorcycle feels pulling out of your driveway at low speed. I would argue that initial throttle response is the single most important factor in how beginner-friendly a motorcycle is, and there's no stat for that. You just have to try them and see. My family freaked out when they heard I bought an 800cc cruiser for my first motorcycle, but what they didn't understand was that it was really smooth off the line, much less jumpy than the smaller bike I took my MSF course on. I ride that thing like a granny in a Corola, displacement be damned. Peak power figures are completely irrelevant unless someone plans to be wide open throttle in top gear.
I own an FJ-09 alongside an SV650, and I honesty just can't see myself going back to an inline 4. As cool as they sound, I have way more fun with the platforms in my garage now. I'm really glad Yamaha finally revealed an R9, that engine is an absolute beast and I've always felt it deserved a more sporty setup for those who want it.
Bikes like the Ninja ZX4R are like the proper send off to the classic supersport. Screaming inline 4s will never be the same again.
For me it's just the sound lol... as corny as that sounds or childish -.- I just love how a 4 cylinder bike sounds. They could be capped at 85MPH for all I care... If it sounds cool then im down! Riding a bike- 250cc 1000cc - all of it is still fun since you are on two wheels and exposed to the elements. People get lost in what other people think even though most have 0 friends any way lmfao. I don't have social media so I just buy and ride what I like - Zx4rr rider here :) it's my dream bike for what it is. I don't think trying to bash any rider is good for the community - I know most of this is tongue and cheeky humor - but most people really believe this and it just make people dislike certain riders. I can care less if you wear full leather or ride butt ass naked- how does that effect me? just happy to see more riders :)
Agree with you but...The only thing I can't stand is the sound. The in line 4 or V4 sounds better than anything
I would really love if manufactures bring back 250cc four cylinder motorcycles that rev to 20 000 rpm
I mean the ZX4rr does exist. Its nearly perfect.
@@coolT21323I have zx4rr zx6r and what I'd love to see in Australia would be zx25r. I'd put cash down the second the announcement was made (won't happen in my life time!)
I couldn't agree more. I hate how Australia doesn't get zx25 bikes. I have zx4rr zx6r in the meantime but zx25 would be perfect considering our speed limit is now snail pace
I rode a ZX-7 as a messenger in SF 20 years ago. This video is absolutely 100% accurate. LOL!
I think this was only fair if it was only R6 guy complaining. But those are just easy targets. I do get the feeling that more and more bread and butter machines with fancy electronics that are far less expensive to produce gets pushed down every sportsriders throat, trying to convince us all that that R9 117 hp is "enough for everybody". And if not, we don't know what we're talking about and we should all "learn to ride first". It's fine to love and buy those bikes, but please spare me the attitude that we don't know what we like. There is a universe between 117 and 217 hp, so don't come and tell that "noone has use for 200+ hp". They could offer lots in the middle, but I bet that means less revenue. So now the industry decided that they should tell sportsriders to come to their senses and buy between 660 and 890 cubics and be happy already.
yep. switched from a 600rr to a 650r and my enjoyment in riding has probably doubled.
meanwhile my boys are thinking about jumping from their 600s to the 1ks...
I have a 2024 ZX-6R and a 2024 ZX-10R, and as long as they go as fast as what the speed limit says, I’m happy :)