I have a 2023 Ultimate and love it. The tech is fantastic and the fuel economy is outstanding. 2 trips from Melbourne to Sydney and Sydney to Port Macquarie. This presenter needs to read the book of rules before making comments about what you can and can't do with the drivers display. Most comfortable vehicle I have driven for many years.
Better owner reviews than all other utes on product review, that speaks for itself. Mine has been a dream, so much more refined than the other offerings and the auto locking diff helps a lot. The rear end flex with the coils is also awesome. Drop your brand snobbery and test one out.
I have a 2023 model with the same km reading almost. The instrument cluster showing the range will also show the average lit /100 etc if you press one of the toggles on your right on the steering wheel. On a recent trip to Bellarine from SE Melbourne I got 6.79 lit/100 and urban driving I get roughly 8.8lit/100. My last Ute was a MQ Triton and I feel the Musso is a better Ute than that. All in all we are happy with our purchase @ $44k drive away.
My man, found your channel recently and really enjoying the reviews and vids you do, especially on upcoming cars. There keeping me informed and helping a lot. Keep up the top work mate - shoutout from Sydney as well 😊
great honest review on the musso which is about time. especially the mention regarding road vibration, steering and pulling to the left. There are a alot of owners that experience the vibration and Ssangyong don't want to know about it. i own a MY21 and is the worst ute i have owned. but thank you for your honest review.
Great review mate. I just bought the short wheelbase today, dealers are willing to negotiate on sticker prices too. I like the fact you can turn off the aids easily. Dual-zone AC, heated and ventilated seats and an 11.8m turning circle for the SWB or 12.2m for the LWB. Peak 4X4 sells a lot of aftermarket and genuine things like wireless chargers for under 300 or Korean factory-fitted rear LED tail lights. You don't hear of people with DPF problems like the GWM.
I got the SWB about a month ago, and yes prices are very flexible at the moment - I got the Ultimate luxury pack for $41k drive away. And the heated seats are the BOMB lol
Thanks for your honest opinion and review. Makes a lot of difference so that we can make an informed decision on where to spend our hard earned money. I follow your channel regularly to keep myself updated in the automotive world. Thanks again
Bought one SWB 2 months+ for my daily drive to work, tow my 2.3 t boat and a few trips. I never though I would buy a ssangyong but what a great car 40k with towbar and electric brake control. At start was wobly for 300k or so but quiten down 100%. Excellent drive ,better power that my 16' v6 diesel territory and more economical. Average speed/economy you can choose from the options and 4000k later it's faultless. In general the review it's ok but I think ssangyong sould have come up with different suspension options and height from factory. All in all nice car!
I have owned my musso for 120000klm no issues at all . been on the beach heaps and out west alot tows really well. But i put the upgraded suspension not the sports but heavy load rated its way better. And a set of bigger A/T tyres. Will buy again down the track. Wife owns a Rexton Mum bought a Korando Brother bought a Musso 5 friends own SsangYongs now.
I got the short wheel base model , 5.2 meters long , perfect for city car parking . Ultimate with vented cooling seats or heated seats and heated steering wheel , 360 deg camera . Once you load the tub a bit , handles even better . Much better than my Holden Colorado i had before . 4x4 ute For 40k , winner .
I know it's not perfect but I can't afford a D-Max or Ranger so this, the LDV T-60 or the GWM Cannon are really the only options if I want new. Also in it's favour is the ridiculous prices of mainstream used utes, unless I want one with 200,000 km on it.
As Jeremy Clarkson once said. It’s like ordered 5.5 metres of car . Not outstanding in any area. But will perform the task , all in beige.( yes a Toyota reference )
Thanks for that, good review .. I wish someone would do an on road / off road review with the shorter wheelbase ELX for a change , way much better off road than the XLV, The Korean Army thinks so, they have hundreds of them they use as command vehicles .. Cheers
Looks like there's some serious delay with the digital rev counter when changing gears. The gear change sounds snappy enough but the rev counter seems to not keep up.
a lot better looking than the previous model, seems pretty good to me its basic without being too basic and equipment seems generous, I wonder with Ssangyong how reliable are they over time . Suppose for the price they are a no brainer compared to a Hilux or Ranger I have driven a 2019 Rexton as a loner and it was a good car but the 4x4 system clunked and knocked as it found traction which for me was very agricultural but it did the job, I don't feel 4x4 systems are Ssangyongs strength.
Underrated mate. The badge snobs will tell you otherwise but Ssangyong have been building engines and 4wds for over 70 years they have just had bad luck with ownership and poor earlier design choices and struggled to crack the Aussie market. I’ve test driven a few of the big names and about to purchase this in the ELX (LWB).
@unclesmate Thanks for asking the question. I regularly read the posts on the FB Musso owners group specifically to see how often the vibration issue around 80 kph crops up. It seems it is rare but the problem does exit, possible fixes, transmission mount, wheel balance/road force balance, tire pressure, replace wheels/tyres. On a new vehicle, do you really want to fork out the extra money to fix. The vehicles that have the problem, it seems the manufacturer denies there is a problem! The gentleman doing this review, is a mechanic and probably a good one at that in my option, I back his expertise. Reading between the lines, the review wasn't a glowing report, it sent shudders (pun intended) when he mentioned vibrations.
@@lostmysoultoday9005I have a 2023 SWB and I don’t get any shudder on ours. In another 10k kms I will probably change the shocks and springs on ours but that is no difference to what a lot of people do to there Rangers etc. Whilst there are some owners who are not satisfied with utes I think the majority on the Musso page are happy with their purchase.
@@akent46 Thanks for that. From a Musso owner that posted on FB 4 days ago. "For those of you that have experienced vibration at 80km/h on the Musso. You are not alone and it is an issue contrary to the trolls on here that imagine that they are the experts. A few months back one member, who from memory was in the tyre industry, reckoned it was a drive line vibration. He was spot on, at near on 30,000km my rear diff died, totally spat the dummy. It was towed to a dealer who inspected it, he said it was the pinion bearing, it was misaligned and had over the 30,000km worn to a point of failure. Whole rear diff was replaced under warranty, picked it up today and absolutely zero vibration. Would suggest those experiencing it raise this with their dealer. Rear diff pinion bearing. Hope this helps someone out there."
You were in D when going that creek with Hill Control turned on, should changed it to 1 or 2 gear for proper down hill control without using your brakes at all
Thinking about this Ute in Europe the price is 10k euro less than a ranger or hilux. Ofc not the highest trim levels ranger and hilux, that gap would be even bigger. I want to test drive it since in this video the guy didn't liked the ride quality I was a bit concerned if its really that bad or hes biased. Mostly I drive paved roads and gravel roads little offroad. It can't be that bad drive quality compared to leaf spring trucks. In EU it cost SWB 45k Euro highest trim level but no blind spot and no 360 cam.
@@Eclipse89 Hey mate, take one for a test drive. No reason for me to be biased. Only thing I am biased towards is quality products, fit for purpose, and engineering. This does alright for its price - one of the cheapest of its kind in Australia. Value is its biggest attraction 👍
Officially, the Musso competes in the same vehicle category as HiLux, Ranger etc. According to the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries here in Australia. There is no other class I can compare it to.
If they could just sort out the suspension and ground clearance this would be a genuine threat to things like HiLux and Ranger. Would also benefit hugely having improvements to its 4WD arrangement - lockers and auto selection like Mitsubishi would be a huge improvement They stripped out the light/power from the bed a year or two ago which was baffling I’m glad they kept this steering wheel for Musso because they’ve changed it in the Rexton and it now has cheap buttons that are far less usable or intuitive.
During Vbox testing I tried both and default mode returned the quicker result. Keep in mind the video is only a video; not timed. I do all Vbox runs (often 4-5 runs) off camera 👍
In practice the PWR mode is mainly there to avoid situations where you don't want the gearbox shifting to the next gear too early, like when driving up hills. It's not for speed. In most cases ECO will actually do a better job of not overshooting the engine's powerband.
how do you know the vibration problem is BS, just wondering were your capturing this info? As there are a fair amount of owners that experience it, even this review mentions it.
I own 3 current models all SWB never had a vibration problem .... Let's be honest old mate doing the review is a bit of a unit😂...all owners i personally know don't have this issue either....
I have a 2023 Ultimate and love it. The tech is fantastic and the fuel economy is outstanding. 2 trips from Melbourne to Sydney and Sydney to Port Macquarie. This presenter needs to read the book of rules before making comments about what you can and can't do with the drivers display. Most comfortable vehicle I have driven for many years.
Better owner reviews than all other utes on product review, that speaks for itself.
Mine has been a dream, so much more refined than the other offerings and the auto locking diff helps a lot. The rear end flex with the coils is also awesome.
Drop your brand snobbery and test one out.
I have a 2023 model with the same km reading almost. The instrument cluster showing the range will also show the average lit /100 etc if you press one of the toggles on your right on the steering wheel. On a recent trip to Bellarine from SE Melbourne I got 6.79 lit/100 and urban driving I get roughly 8.8lit/100.
My last Ute was a MQ Triton and I feel the Musso is a better Ute than that.
All in all we are happy with our purchase @ $44k drive away.
One of the best value for money utes on the market in Australia, and a much better option than any of the Chinese offerings!
My man, found your channel recently and really enjoying the reviews and vids you do, especially on upcoming cars. There keeping me informed and helping a lot.
Keep up the top work mate - shoutout from Sydney as well 😊
Thanks a lot. Glad you're enjoying them. And thanks for the feedback - I'll aim to do more on the upcoming stuff.
Musso is a great ute and it does everthing well, I cant really complain and love mine!
We are the Korean off-road channel. We're also riding a Musso Grand car. Thank you for showing the great Musso Grand video.🫡👍
great honest review on the musso which is about time. especially the mention regarding road vibration, steering and pulling to the left. There are a alot of owners that experience the vibration and Ssangyong don't want to know about it. i own a MY21 and is the worst ute i have owned. but thank you for your honest review.
Great review mate. I just bought the short wheelbase today, dealers are willing to negotiate on sticker prices too. I like the fact you can turn off the aids easily. Dual-zone AC, heated and ventilated seats and an 11.8m turning circle for the SWB or 12.2m for the LWB. Peak 4X4 sells a lot of aftermarket and genuine things like wireless chargers for under 300 or Korean factory-fitted rear LED tail lights. You don't hear of people with DPF problems like the GWM.
I got the SWB about a month ago, and yes prices are very flexible at the moment - I got the Ultimate luxury pack for $41k drive away. And the heated seats are the BOMB lol
Thanks for your honest opinion and review. Makes a lot of difference so that we can make an informed decision on where to spend our hard earned money. I follow your channel regularly to keep myself updated in the automotive world. Thanks again
Bought one SWB 2 months+ for my daily drive to work, tow my 2.3 t boat and a few trips. I never though I would buy a ssangyong but what a great car 40k with towbar and electric brake control. At start was wobly for 300k or so but quiten down 100%. Excellent drive ,better power that my 16' v6 diesel territory and more economical. Average speed/economy you can choose from the options and 4000k later it's faultless. In general the review it's ok but I think ssangyong sould have come up with different suspension options and height from factory.
All in all nice car!
Thanks for your ownership insight. That's the stuff that really helps prospective buyers.
I have owned my musso for 120000klm no issues at all . been on the beach heaps and out west alot tows really well.
But i put the upgraded suspension not the sports but heavy load rated its way better.
And a set of bigger A/T tyres. Will buy again down the track.
Wife owns a Rexton
Mum bought a Korando
Brother bought a Musso
5 friends own SsangYongs now.
Thanks for the insight.
I got the short wheel base model , 5.2 meters long , perfect for city car parking . Ultimate with vented cooling seats or heated seats and heated steering wheel , 360 deg camera . Once you load the tub a bit , handles even better . Much better than my Holden Colorado i had before . 4x4 ute For 40k , winner .
I know it's not perfect but I can't afford a D-Max or Ranger so this, the LDV T-60 or the GWM Cannon are really the only options if I want new. Also in it's favour is the ridiculous prices of mainstream used utes, unless I want one with 200,000 km on it.
Imagine 10 years ago Telling your mates you have just spent 75 grand on a ute
Excellent review.
I put hd shocks 22:42 on rear & airbags...
As Jeremy Clarkson once said. It’s like ordered 5.5 metres of car . Not outstanding in any area. But will perform the task , all in beige.( yes a Toyota reference )
Thanks for that, good review .. I wish someone would do an on road / off road review with the shorter wheelbase ELX for a change , way much better off road than the XLV, The Korean Army thinks so, they have hundreds of them they use as command vehicles .. Cheers
But can you get parts? Early musses are scrap if you need a radiator, how will these not be the same?
Looks like there's some serious delay with the digital rev counter when changing gears. The gear change sounds snappy enough but the rev counter seems to not keep up.
Best car with coils spring
The dealership is charging me $1800 for delivery fee, is that normal? I thought its a driveaway pricing normally.
a lot better looking than the previous model, seems pretty good to me its basic without being too basic and equipment seems generous, I wonder with Ssangyong how reliable are they over time . Suppose for the price they are a no brainer compared to a Hilux or Ranger I have driven a 2019 Rexton as a loner and it was a good car but the 4x4 system clunked and knocked as it found traction which for me was very agricultural but it did the job, I don't feel 4x4 systems are Ssangyongs strength.
@unclesmate The Rexton has part-time 4WD with selectable low- and high-range 4WD and an auto-locking rear differential
Underrated mate. The badge snobs will tell you otherwise but Ssangyong have been building engines and 4wds for over 70 years they have just had bad luck with ownership and poor earlier design choices and struggled to crack the Aussie market. I’ve test driven a few of the big names and about to purchase this in the ELX (LWB).
@unclesmate may be so but considerable improvement from the earlier models. It’s hard to look past what you get for the price point
There's nothing cheap about these utes...the build quality is just as good or better than any of the Bangkok Billy Carts that are available
I have a new musso ute but it keeps bringing up warning lights auto headlight
Ortomoniois braking
Frount collision warning has done it4
Love your channel and where you shoot, were is this would love to test out my 4wd there. Where is this located?
Brett has a secret location where he tests the cars, has been tortured but never reveals the location😅.
@@perpetualgrin5804 - somewhere in the Southern Highlands. But I wont tell you where either :)
Sounds like tyre pressures are too high.
ciao a tutti, ho notato che il cassono si muove durante la guida, se monto un hard top , secondo voi si rompe con le vibrazioni del cassone????
A good thorough review, has put me off buying one.
Thanks. Glad it helped.
@unclesmate Thanks for asking the question. I regularly read the posts on the FB Musso owners group specifically to see how often the vibration issue around 80 kph crops up.
It seems it is rare but the problem does exit, possible fixes, transmission mount, wheel balance/road force balance, tire pressure, replace wheels/tyres. On a new vehicle, do you really want to fork out the extra money to fix. The vehicles that have the problem, it seems the manufacturer denies there is a problem! The gentleman doing this review, is a mechanic and probably a good one at that in my option, I back his expertise. Reading between the lines, the review wasn't a glowing report, it sent shudders (pun intended) when he mentioned vibrations.
@@lostmysoultoday9005I have a 2023 SWB and I don’t get any shudder on ours. In another 10k kms I will probably change the shocks and springs on ours but that is no difference to what a lot of people do to there Rangers etc. Whilst there are some owners who are not satisfied with utes I think the majority on the Musso page are happy with their purchase.
@lostmysoultoday9005 some VIN numbers had incorrect wheel alignments, that's all it is. Mine is fantastic.
@@akent46 Thanks for that. From a Musso owner that posted on FB 4 days ago. "For those of you that have experienced vibration at 80km/h on the Musso.
You are not alone and it is an issue contrary to the trolls on here that imagine that they are the experts.
A few months back one member, who from memory was in the tyre industry, reckoned it was a drive line vibration.
He was spot on, at near on 30,000km my rear diff died, totally spat the dummy.
It was towed to a dealer who inspected it, he said it was the pinion bearing, it was misaligned and had over the 30,000km worn to a point of failure.
Whole rear diff was replaced under warranty, picked it up today and absolutely zero vibration.
Would suggest those experiencing it raise this with their dealer.
Rear diff pinion bearing.
Hope this helps someone out there."
This might be a silly question, but are the decibel levels taken from inside or outside the cab?
All good. Recordings are taken inside, right in the middle of the cabin with the pickup pointing forward.
Thank you 👍
Cannot wait to get rid of ours. Should have spent the extra money and got a ranger 🤷♀️
Tell us more.
Ranger be broken within 5 years
What happen to ur car is it a bad car to buy?
You were in D when going that creek with Hill Control turned on, should changed it to 1 or 2 gear for proper down hill control without using your brakes at all
Thinking about this Ute in Europe the price is 10k euro less than a ranger or hilux. Ofc not the highest trim levels ranger and hilux, that gap would be even bigger. I want to test drive it since in this video the guy didn't liked the ride quality I was a bit concerned if its really that bad or hes biased. Mostly I drive paved roads and gravel roads little offroad. It can't be that bad drive quality compared to leaf spring trucks. In EU it cost SWB 45k Euro highest trim level but no blind spot and no 360 cam.
@@Eclipse89 Hey mate, take one for a test drive. No reason for me to be biased. Only thing I am biased towards is quality products, fit for purpose, and engineering. This does alright for its price - one of the cheapest of its kind in Australia. Value is its biggest attraction 👍
Nothing shows on the scan tool
You keep saying other utes in this class and referring to hilux,dmax and ranger? Would not put them in same class as they are about 30K dearer?
Officially, the Musso competes in the same vehicle category as HiLux, Ranger etc. According to the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries here in Australia. There is no other class I can compare it to.
If they could just sort out the suspension and ground clearance this would be a genuine threat to things like HiLux and Ranger. Would also benefit hugely having improvements to its 4WD arrangement - lockers and auto selection like Mitsubishi would be a huge improvement
They stripped out the light/power from the bed a year or two ago which was baffling
I’m glad they kept this steering wheel for Musso because they’ve changed it in the Rexton and it now has cheap buttons that are far less usable or intuitive.
The Drive recommendation is suspect as I can find a comprehensive review on it and how they came to that conclusion.
Whereabouts is this route? I'm in Vic and looks good to check out
Any realibilty issues as the ute has not missed a beat any idears no
In your opinion which is the better ute, this one or the GWM Cannon?
Go the Chinese ute we should support them they buy all our iron
If you read Product Review the GWM does not get a good rating for Customer Service.
Query, leaf or coil rear in the tested configuration.
I suspect coil but would like to know for certain, thankyou
Coil at the back on this one.
Coil on SWB also plus 4 wheel discs.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia 👍
Nice 4times4 pick up truck 🚐⛽💰💲⛈️🛣🌜👍👍
PERFECT CAR
Your acceleration runs were all performed in ECO mode...not PWR.
During Vbox testing I tried both and default mode returned the quicker result. Keep in mind the video is only a video; not timed. I do all Vbox runs (often 4-5 runs) off camera 👍
In practice the PWR mode is mainly there to avoid situations where you don't want the gearbox shifting to the next gear too early, like when driving up hills. It's not for speed. In most cases ECO will actually do a better job of not overshooting the engine's powerband.
You talk about utes in this class
It’s half the price of 90% of the utes you mentioned
@@scottflint8605 That’s ok. Is it half as good, or better/worse?
Put a load in the back and it probably sits beautifully
133kw ..bit light on hp.
4000Nm In the description 😱😱😱
That'd be a lot!
Fixed. Thanks
4 times now on 1300 kms supplyer.says nothing wrong warmings dont seem to cause an
Great utes....the vibration thing is a whole lot of BS..
how do you know the vibration problem is BS, just wondering were your capturing this info? As there are a fair amount of owners that experience it, even this review mentions it.
I own 3 current models all SWB never had a vibration problem ....
Let's be honest old mate doing the review is a bit of a unit😂...all owners i personally know don't have this issue either....
I’m sorry but it’s not. Ours has it and it terrible😡
Thank u. That guy obviously good a good one but we definitely didn’t. Cannot wait to get rid of it
Great video, the vehicle is a disappointment though.
Why, have you driven one or own one?
@@johnnyk9452 I just hoped it would be cheaper. Generally crazy money for utes now.
@@jamiefrangos9233 yeah fair enough.
The torque at only 400 Nm is really pathetic.