BTR Truck Norris Cam + Tuning = HUGE GAINS 💪💪💪 ~ HPtuners
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2022
- So in this video I mix up my before and after torque numbers. Long story short the stock truck started with 281 LBS-ft and with the Brian Tooley Truck Norris Cam AND tuning is made 360 LBS-ft. That’s a HUGE improvement. Stock exhaust manifold, stock intake ect… no other mods.
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The peak pork is what matters
It does sound like its oinking
Gonna make a shit of that peak pork copyright ©️
I’m always at peak pork!!!!
All the piggy noises at idle from the cam you get excited and need to know your Peak Pork is....
Nice gains, but it was super interesting finally seeing someone post some
Tuning stuff with it also
Great video! I'm building my 6.0 LQ9 currently, it's going in my 64 impala ss and I'm hearing Great things about this cam. Thank you for your video
I’ve settled on the truck Norris for my 5.3. Thanks for the video.
Feel you on the muffler drone. Cool vid. I did a lot of cam research before I built my engine. It’s a flat top 5.3 lm7 with summit racing rockers (trunnion upgrade) and their 8718 r1 cam. The more searching I did the more I realized I was happy with a Minimalistic concept. Flat tops, headers and a rv cam with 4:11:1 gears.
Good video, I was sold at truck Norris, but now I know for sure the cam to run! Very impressive!
Thanks, great video appreciate the details helps others like myself pick the right cam
Can't wait to see that when you run that timing at 27 to 29 degrees it should carrier more grunt for sure 😊
Nice info! And nice results with the cam only swap
Same cam last week, springs , Melling pump and headers on the 180,000 mile LY6. 2500HD 8 ft bed . Stock TC isnt right. Dyno at the wheels : 368 TQ. 265 stock .Got for towing. It is what they say it is guys.... badass.I changed from the smaller magnaflow.. went to a larger magnaflow... still loud. I will now add the small straight flow magnaflow into the pipes. Too much drone for towing loads at highway speed for 6 hours. Just me.
I have 3in Borla S muffler on my Silverado Absolutely love it.
Hell yeah nice job . I’m getting ready to do the afm delete in my 08. I’m thinking about swapping this cam in
👀👀👀👀👀👀OOUUUU..... Im just now seeing this Bo, I caaaaint wait till I'm off of work to check this 1 out..... Hell yeahhhh..... Ou, Ou, OUU.... Cam tuning is a must with this 1 Bo.... Lets hear how it chops or rather🤔🙄 sounds normally... Then you slow the idle down to that 750ish range while simultaneously throwing that Bo' s 20+/20- on it.... AWEEE MAN, this is finna be EPIC... WOOOOOI💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿❤️❤️❤️
Outstanding work Sir
After all these years there’s still not many people I listen to. 👌🏼
Don't have time to install so I'm watching videos, boy oh boy I can't wait! Saved up parts to do a bunch at once, lq4 799 trunion upgrade Trailblazer SS TN cam I have the super 44 FM 488 gear Detroit true track on 35's hell I might have to run taller tires or go to 456 she's already torkey as an old B John Deere.👍
This made me decide on a cam. I appreciate it. Look at my videos on carven. No drone. I'll never go back to Flowmaster.
I think when you get to a certain point in your build that's when you get the converter. I run a cam motion 221/226 .600" lift cam in my rcsb 5.3 and it hauled off the line with a stock converter. Eventually I put a 3000 stall and with the proper tuning it drives great and flys. Good job on your tuning bro, very thorough. I have a btr in my other truck and it runs good too. The cam motion has the quietest valve train I've ever heard in an ls motor. I'll say that much
4l60E or 4l80?
It’s sounding way better since you adjusted the idle, nice lope. It sounded like a diesel before you set it.
That cam sounds killer
I just got this cam its sitting on my bench. Im going to put in my Trailblazer SS.
I needed this video... I have a silver 99 gmc 5.3 stepside I've been redoing. Looking for a cam setup and your hitting it on the nose. Appreciate the content 👌 🙏
Love the truck, have one just like it but rust has killed it and the 455K it has on it and the trans is gone but engine still strong.
I definitely have to upgrade my injectors. My duty cycle is in the high 90s.
Talking while tuning makes me want to tune. Haven't tried, but now I might give it a go.
Sounds great bo
Thanks 👍
Sounds good boss. Really wanting to go with this cam. Really new to hp tuners tho. What are you tweeking in the tune? Would like to see what your changes are.
Same as the beginning of time. Fuel and ignition timing. Fuel by changing commanded injector pulsewidth and timing is just advancing or retarding when the coil turns off and sends the spark.
I have a 2000 LM7 with stage 4 BTR cam, headers, and converter. Your right.. from a dig it’s a dog off the line. Mid rpm to redline it pulls great. Not sure I would recommend stage 4 BTR. It sacrifices too much torque low range rpm.
Gears & converter should be paired with trucks cam. It’s a 5.3 so it absolutely needs a high stall.
Doesn't "need" more converter but more converter WILL make it rock!
Yeah 220 degrees of duration and these kids think they need a converter. 🤣
I like your content and after watching this I'm sold, Is there more than one Truck Norris cam like stage 2 ect? When you swap cams do you degree it or install it dot to dot straight up? For me I like the idea of not having to change the torque converter and I can build on to this on a budget.
Love it
Me too! Lol
@@BoBuilds I’m with ya on the magnaflo. I have the same thing in mind.
This video definitely helps make up my mind to put the Truck Norris cam in my 5.3 Squarebody! Thanks
It makes power EVERYWHERE it’s awesome
@@BoBuilds can’t wait to get it!
Great video very informative. So what timing did you end on?
Thank you. Richard holdener recommended this cam. Just checking to see how you like it so far?
Definitely a good cam choice, loving mine. Such a huge difference in power in my 6.0
Are you running a stock converter and what trans
@@gustavomendoza6028 I am running the stock converter. It’s a 4l70.
Mudhumper does the truck feel like it can actually get out of its own way? Mine feels slow as can be
@@justinw6448 I can’t feel any loss of low end. I want to eventually regear to 4.10’s cuz the 3.73’s aren’t that great for my low end. You may have an issue with your tune if power is down in the bottom end.
Nice job. Seems a 2500-3k stall would be perfect if you wanted to spend the extra money
It only has 220deg of duration. It doesn't need a higher stall any more than a stock cam would.
nice video.
12:05 had me thinkin I was lookin in the mirror 🤣
Same cam I got for my 98 shortbed swap
You need to put a corvette servo in your trans…you’re going to fry your clutches and band in your trans if you don’t
Hey man I got a question for you. I just ordered the truck norris no springs required cam for my 4.8. I have 5.3 everything else because I blew the 5.3 and have a 4.8 on the side I just gotta throw in to get my truck going. Will I need injectors or will tuning be enough? Also Is a stock fuel pump enough, I just changed it?
I had a 2002 short bed regular cab 5.3 with a LS1 camshaft and milled LS1 heads with the stock 4L60E trans and 3.42 gears and tuned it ran much better from 3500rpm up than the truck cam with truck heads so l can imagine this truck Norris cam would be even better yet in the upper rpm range the LS1 cam pulled strong to 6200rpm l would imagine this truck Norris cam would pull to 6500-6600rpm
So this cam is great for towing? Hell yeah. I bought a suburban with the 5.7, looking for similar torque to a 6.0l for towing and just plain enjoyment
This cam is meant for an LS
That’s nice
How does the valve train sound. Does it sound like a sewing machine. I got dual springs on mine and it's loud, does yours have the behive springs or dual springs
Great job, can you share your tune to make a comparison ? I'm new to hp tuners and I have no experience and I haven't bought the wide band. I am going to install truck norris cam 212/22x LSA107 my engine 2003 5,3 L59 no cats long headers and air intake, you can help?
What was your idle speed set to when you had the choppy idle
Nice work . Did you up your shift pressures yet ? I did 2 magnaflow 21119 on my Sierra with Long tubes and high flow cats ! The only drone I get is bellow 1800. Basicly country roads at 80km she has a bit a drone . I posted a vid on my channel .
Your shifts seem a bit lazy !
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Check out the new vid, this is with shift pressures upped a bit. MUCH better
My truck Norris cam kit comes tmr throwing it in a 5.3 Tahoe with long tubes,3inch all the way straight pipe,
How the truck norris cam workout?
Thinking of doing same cam but in a 5.3 silverado long tubes with 3” to a carven tr.
Man I Honestly love the truck Norris cam, it’s got such a flat torque curve and broad power band, sucker will pull to 6500 easy too
Do i need to run the ls6 springs with seals? And i will also be using the stock torque converter for a while. But i see people run the 2.4 trailblazer torque converter
@@gnzlzjosable it is badass adds power in the low end and high end bro definitely recommend and with the right tuning you can keep factory stall
@@northxsupreme7127 heck yeah thats definitely what I’m looking for, Thanks
I have an lm7 5.3 completely stock other than a cheap cold air in my 04 silverado i plan on putting the btr truck norris cam in soon, i just got hp tuners, i was wondering if someone had a tune for a similar set up i could just buy off them and load the file into my ecu, or at least wondering if thats possible to do
I’m putting this cam in my 2010 silverado is there a way to make it chop in idle but smooth out in drive?
I sure wish I could get a tune sent to me on a Zip drive. I have headers and 3” exhaust
I have a 2014 gmc 2500 6.0 with the LS3 823 heads & 6L90E transmission & 411 gears just got the truck Norris cam with matching LS6 springs I am hoping that it will be as good as it did for you? Also I am getting the HP tuner and lap top so I can play with it tunning it myself so I hope it goes well for me
What are you running for injectors? Stock or did you need larger?
You think it would go good with a 4.8 Silverado? U think it would leave any problems
My trans used to do that until I put the vette servo in shifts much cleaner now
Those shifts seem to take Forever. Corvette Cervo time.
I firmed up the shift pressures, it’s much better now
Which Truck Norris cam? .552 or ~,500 (no springs required cam). Settled on Truck Norris for the 5.3 in the 1950 truck and just as I go to order I see there are choices>>>>
Hey Bo, I have a 2015 Silverado with a 6.0L. The roller lifters are self destructing because of worn lifter trays. Right now, I am inspecting the lower end and fishing out needles, etc. I have purchased a Truck Norris cam, push rods, valve springs and will do the VVT delete, etc. I need to work on programming which is a new technical area for me. I see you use HP tuners. Can I email you for advice on how to get started or perhaps you have a program that will get me started which tunes it for 87 gasoline and a loping idle? This is so I can drive the truck and wear in the cam. From this point, I would tune it later for performance. Chris
You can check out the HP/Tuners forum for more information about what you are looking for, I think that would help you with a lot of questions
Let us know how bad fuel mileage is thinking bout doing an ls1 swap with the Norris cam
Hey man i have the exact same truck and hptuners with pro link and afr. Im totally new to tuning and am struggling with idle tuning. I cant find any info to help lean out afr at idle. Im between 10-11 right now. Is there anyway you could send a compare file so i can see where you made changes and use that to help teach myself. Theres so many settings. I have maf faulted out and o2 sensors and ltft stft off so i can make manual ve adjustments without correction. Ive raised idle rpm and iac to get it idling in gear. I just cant get the dang afr to lean out at idle. It’s great under load. I played around with the stock tune before the cam and learned how to work the ve tables. That part seems pretty smooth. If your willing to share that would be amazing.
How’s your gas mileage now bro? I’m going to put this in 5.3 in a Foxbody just wondering
I just want to know how the power brakes are working?
You need a converter if you wanna take full advantage. Trust me, I have this cam with a 3200 stall with 3:73 and it’s a lot more lively. You’ll love it even more.
Converters help even a stock truck! I’m going to see how it behaves with a pro charger before I get the converter
I’ve got a 72 C10 and that’s going to be my set too with long tube Gibson headers in my 5.3
@@lemontbowden3629 I have a 72 C10 with the 5.3, Gibson headers and the truck Norris cam. It’s a good setup.
Where did you get the stall and how much
Where did you get the stall and how much
Everything I’ve read says they really wake up with a converter. Says they’ll work on a stock converter but much better with a converter. Just a thought though. Seen a guy on here doing the same with the same cam, he went into the idle table and adjusted it also. Made it sound like a much bigger cam then it was. You may wanna try it.
What app your using to tune your truck I just put a stage 2 cam in my 05 gmc
Once it pulls it does really good
I definitely need a better tune in my truck lol your truck is definitely moving!
Thanks man! It’s cam only and 232k miles 😂
@@BoBuilds got 300k thinking of doing this just bc lol
Wat was ur vacuum at idle ? Cuz I'm showing 12 inches of vacuum on a 6.0 with a Norris cam??
Wonder what it would do in a 5.7ls1
Just, wondering what camshaft this is since BTR offers many different ones.
Got this cam in 2013 suburban ltz 4x4 and only have cam and springs and cai and it runs ok but the guy that tuned it didn't take the time and with the wife driving it I had to figure out something fast so I got a mail-order tune and it's still not right need some help with issues I'm having
Hey Bo Builds, did you ever happen to get a complete Finished Tune? would like to compare where i'm at, thanks
Dang so I need to buy the pro feature set and prolink cable to hook up my wideband gauge ? Really would be nice to have that number in my datalogs! I am also tuning a truck norris cam and it's my first time getting into the tables. 20 degrees of advance at wot seems really low to me and that's where this 4.8 is staying. had 60c intake temps tho, maybe that had something to do with it
Ya probably i bought the upgrade version when I bought mine i forgot what all was different but I got mine probably like 8 years ago or something so I have the old unit so I cam hook it directly but I haven't done much and don't even have a wide band yet
So how much should mine make? 2000 5.3 stage 3 btr cam , 4 inch cold air intake 102mm throttle body, short headers and dual exhaust
i just did mine i have gen 4 what do i adjust to get more vac at idle i lose breaks also what do i adjust to get it to start with no peddle i just need to get it to a shop to do a tune i have hp tuner
That's Richard's dyno sheet? Looks like it
Hey Bo, I have a 2010 stock 5.3/6l80 truck I am doing exactly as you did w your truck. I am buying the new hptuner devise and a laptop for it. What do you suggest about keeping my stock springs?
I also plan to run e 85 thru the stock system and see how that does.
I have this same cam in an LQ4 with 862 heads and my question is, do you have any valve train noise at all with your? I rebuilt this engine with all new parts and LS7 lifters. Only thing reused we’re the rocker arms with a trunnion upgrade.
Cams sometimes make the valves louder thanks to higher lift, headers can also make the valve train sound a little louder
I have noticed the ls7 do have some noise to them. My last one I did was a 224R with pac springs and ls7 lifters and it was loud. I talked to a few people and even tested seat pressure and such and had quite a few people tell me it’s normal
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Same here with ls7 lifters in a 6.2 with a 224R but I use Lucas oil stabilizer and it helps to quiet down
Just installed my cam on my 2010, does it gain anything without the tune? I know for sure it does after but I haven’t been able to tune yet
This for the non LS ?and do you have to change the springs and lifters or will stock stuff be fine with only the cam
LS. need to change springs.
What app did you purchase on the tuner
Hey! How much air flow are you getting at idle? Mine is saying 16g/s which seems a bit high for a 6.0.
My SBC 383 with a similar aize cam is about 12-13 @ ~800 rpm.
Might have to put a ls in my fox body 😂
Why do you run 12something air fuel..... what fuel are you running? (Pump/91)?
Bro this truck Norris cam. Vs the summit racing 450 hp 420 tq. Create engine. What do you think?
Mine is showing 405ft pounds delivered. 5.3 truck Norris cam, long tubes, y pipe wot @28 degrees
What oil pump do you have? Getting this cam and going to install a single turbo on my 2010 Tahoe.
This one
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By any chance , do you have a file I can download? I have this cam in my 6.0 , with a Holley terminator X . It’s running a bit lean
On the scanner what exactly are you looking at too diagnose a tune
What actually setting are you using to add fuel in hp tuner
can you tell me how you did that graph setup please
What kind of horsepower/torque will a BTR truck Norris came and ported 706 heads, TBSS intake, do on a LM7 engine? At the wheels do you guys think?
Not much more. That cam is designed to drop in stock motor. Rest if the motor will limit it (fuel injector size, tune) but many a video where AFR heads, 6.0l, stoker kits etc the cam is limiting the extra UNTIL you add boost or nito. The purpose of the cam is sound and power for stockish engines.
Watch Richard Holdener dyno videos, he’s tested multiple combinations.
So you build a new transmission yet? That shift is getting lazy, going to burn the clutch’s like that.
I just put this cam in my truck same truck but when I'm at WOT my 2-3 shift just slips bad but if I drive it normally it does just fine! I've done a bunch of reading and it's either the clutches or some say it's either to much or not enough line pressure. No idea super new to anything electrical. Is this something you can easily change?
Problem is likely in your trans. Slipping between the same gear changes consistently typically means slipping discs and a trans rebuilt/upgrade will likely be in your future.
What truck Norris cam is that the NSR 488 LIFT ?
What are your thoughts on a chopacabra cam
Do you change cam bearings how hard is it
I got an lq9 6.0 in a 06 1500 with truck Norris. What size injectors do you think for an E85 flex conversion
There are injector formulas on line.
You said you were raising the shift points to 6000 rpm but the dyno graphs i have seen look like its making like thensame power near 7000 rpm which should make you lots faster another 1000 rpm at near peak hp and you rpm drop on the shift will be that much higher in rpm and closer to peak power but i get 4l60e problems