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MAF Tuning and Scaling, Tuning Series Vol. 3, HP Tuners
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The world is running out of good people like you. A serious and humble thank you for these videos. The HP community is a great group and unlike any other tuning community and guys like you make it possible for the rest of us. I’m tuning an 09 PPV Tahoe and it’s been an awesome experience seeing this thing come to life. ABT.
Thanks for watching, just want to make the tuning experience available to more people!
Coming from somebody trying to learn to tune, these videos are great thank you for putting this content out on RUclips.
Oh man its intimidating but I'm determined. No matter how many times I have to watch you do it! 👍👌💯
Man, you are able to melt brains of viewers with the compatancy and ability you have with HP❤
I am so happy I find your videos, after doing tune school I was lost and you brought light and knowledge, thanks you.
Where did your do your "Tune School"?
I've RUclips so many videos, finnaly someone who's audio is clear and you explain things very well. Done remote tuning and having issues, done a local tune and cars worse. Have a CTS V with cam, pulleys ect. time to learn and make adjustments myself. Thanks for taking the time for this.
Dude you are awesome..best tune info on youtube....and i also am greatful that you do not have to use profanity to get your point across...excellent..thank you
Thanks for watching!
+1 on the profanity thing!
-2 on the profanity thing. Learning how to tune, not judgin
Thanks a ton for the series. Just recently decided to learn to tune. I have been stuck on some very simple things, you have explained where I can understand what you are actually doing and why. Not just "do this...why? because..." You helped me gain momentum to keep moving forward and not stay stuck on my frustrations. Can't thank you enough.
Will you please make a video on using Lambda and what actually changes in the tune. Maybe a legit lambda for beginners? Love the content this is by far the best tuning channel on youtube!
Agree, love the content, would also like to see a video explaining lambda vs afr and how to properly implement it for using pump gas with meth injection.
That being said im a newb when it comes to tuning but have solid background in diagnostics and scanner work so I do have an advantage over many and so far I've been able to understand most of your "lessons" the 1st go around. For anybody else, follow the playlist and re-watch episodes without disturbances as you'll need to focus! Good stuff here brother!
lambda is simple its just percentage 1.0=14.7 afr gas .9=13.23 ie richer .8=11.76 even richer then the opposite is true also 1.1=16.17 and so on if you follow if you have a 1.1 you are lean need to add 10% more fuel if you are .9 you need to remove 10% fuel in those blocks just remember you are measuring oxygen not fuel! more oxygen makes more pieces ! ie way too lean. hope this helps
@@scubastevoo8404 Thanks for that that explains it really well for me just started watching the videos
Thanks for your hard work in making these videos. I have dialed in my 2010 Camaro SS better than the guy that was paid to do it as a professional!!! Couldn't have done this without the vids.
This is the best hp tuners explaination of maf tuning ive ever seen. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
@@GoatRopeGarage one question. Can a eq error ratio be setup with stock o2 or does it have to be my wideband?
@@Battle_Garage Has to be wideband to get EQ error.
Great series! I'm just getting started (just got my HPTuner device 2 days ago). I really appreciate that your videos are doing a great jot of both explaining why and showing how. Both are what I need to see. Also, I do like the format of splitting up the How and Why videos so it will be easier to come back for reference later. Luckily I have some time before my project is running to learn as much as I can before I try to apply it.
Let me know if you have any issues! Thanks for the feedback!
Man I’m so glad I found these videos you have no idea! Found them when I bought my wideband and RUclipsd. I don’t have pro but I have an MPVI2 so I bought all the stuff you listed for your setup and already had the AEM X in order. Excited to get the most out of my car!
Welcome to the channel! Check out the live show on Thursdays!
Great set of How to's - I have a C4 vet that Frankenstein's monster would be scared of with an LS2 and 6L80 and this logical process is just great, one subject per item is clear and easy to follow. I've done the MAF over the weekend and next is Speed density. You have taken from the black box of worry to something I don't mind working my way through. Many thanks for putting this up and taking the time.
Great step by step , no fumbling around and babbling about off topic stuff like other videos! I like how you suggest “ yours may be a little different so be aware of this or that “ be using more of your vids for gen4 tuning and scanner set up !
Will do Gen 4 specific videos soon!
Goat Rope Garage shouldnt PE be disabled when tuning maf and vve ? Or just avoid wot ? Was just thinking while i was data logging
Appreciate your in depth videos on tuning topics both MAF and SD !! Keep up the great work.
I have been helped so many times by this community started by Kyle. Thank you Kyle! I am having an issue with my 6.0 LS/TR6060 69 c10. I am tuning and just made my step9 file and was happy with it enough to be done. As soon as I put all settings back to normal just like in this video and fired it up, it was way rich up top (like .72lambda when it should be .82 in PE up top). It was also off at idle and cruising around even. STFT and LTFT was adding anywhere from 10-20% even though I had everything MAF tuned to a very happy place.
2007 suburban maf calibration has high and low freq. tanks for your help!! really appreciate it..
Awesome video! Please keep making more, they are extremely helpful for a lot of us!
Thanks alot. Ive been looking for more direct videos for some time now and finally found this one. Cut out all of the clutter talk and get straight to the good stuff! Thanks again
Thanks! Once I finally found out how to get my wideband to read and compare against this video was perfect for getting it setup.
A few more runs and then off to the VVE table.
thank you so much for this, it has been my long time dream of becoming a reputable tuner. so far i have learnt how to tune hondas and with your help im sure i will be able to tune much more. thank you
Thank you so much! Because of your videos i was able to buy my own hp tuners and ditch the email tune that i had for my cai and intake manifold modifications on my 16 mustang, i was confused about maf/period but i realized its the same as freq! I will be getting long tube headers soon and cant wait! Thank you! Thank you!
Thank you. Most car guys seem to make it so complicated to sound smart or cool. You lay it on straight thank you.
So happy I stumbled across your channel! Learning how tuning works and you explain it well!
Finally! A useful place for HPT beginners to learn!
Thanks for watching!
@@GoatRopeGarage I have Question. You copy and paste the MAF table info into the histogram on the scanner. After logging and collecting the data, you then copy that, and paste special by half back in the MAF table in the editor. You say to rinse and repeat, and my question is, do you then copy that new MAF table and paste it back over in the editor again before running another log?
It's not a new table but an error table that is calculating the error between what is calling for and what it's seeing so you keep working on it until you get closer to 0% error. I normally shoot in the 3% +- range on the maf
@@GoatRopeGarage I meant, do you paste the new MAF table info back into the scanner, not the editor. But yes, the error table that was made from the start. Is that changed with every log scan?
And thank you for the reply man. I really do appreciate it a lot. I'm preparing to do a tune on my Firebird that I did some crazy mods to lol
I’m trying to watch enough videos to understand how this thing works before I start and I found this very interesting and I’m looking forward to using my HP tuner thank you
Really nice... Short, quick, but very informative. Thank You
Glad it was helpful!
These videos are great! Super helpful and good concise format. Thanks for teaching and sharing your good knowledge.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the videos, great stuff. Learning tuning to help modify my supercharged LS3 so I don't have to drive an hour and pay a ton at the tuners. Just a heads up, when you went to remove 5 degrees of timing you clicked twice so it ended up removing 10. Thanks again for the awesome videos, I'm learning a lot!
Who cares! For 5 degrees click once
Excellent video! Thanks for showing how to setup the logging tables. I also appreciate your playlists on the different generations of GM computers, GEN III & IV etc.
Super excited to follow all of this info. Thanks man. You're great!
Awesome, thank you!
Just got into tuning and I want to say I really like these series that you are making on tuning. It really has helped me to understand how to tune my truck but also you have explain why we are changing things that is my biggest thing is I want to know why and how the changes are affecting the truck. This is helping me tune my 2013 Silverado. My question for you is do you know anyone on here that is really good at explaining diesel tuning because I have two Duramaxs as well. Or does taking the steps in the series work with diesels too?
At about 8:30 in the video you said that we need to change the EQ ratio sensor to our mass airflow sensor. When you went to change your variable you selected EQ Ratio and not mass air. I am a little confused by that. Could you explain some. Thank you so much for your time and dedication!
Definitely prefer a very thorough and specific type of video content. One that explains in deep detail. Cant help but think most of your viewers would be people that would benefit from that and it never hurts to beat the same vital information through over and over and over. Really ingrain this all in the memory banks🤷♂️😅😅
Just watch it over and over and over. It really works!
Goat Rope Garage came back to rewatch this video and noticed that, somehow, I had hit the *thumb down* button. Very sorry, and don't know how that happened. I corrected it, *thumb up* of course!
You make excellent vids man! THANKS!
Absolutly love your vids! There has to be a simplier way to add EQ error ratio. Ive made 4 pages of notes so far and not done yet. Absolutly see the value in it but it sure is a complicated process.
Awesome information you are giving me and others. Thank you!
Keep up the good work man this is some quality content
Oh man you're just a straight up legend thank you so very much! I'll try my best to support the channel
Thanks for making these videos. You do a good job explaining all this.
I dont have any of these parameters we are changing, i have a p01 from a 2000 silverado, i dont have o2 readiness voltage or the wb?
Am i doing something wrong?
Needed this exact video thanks alot! Cant wait for the rest of the videos!
I consider myself a newbie, and your videos are such a great help. Thank you for the great content.
Thanks for the video. I have just a whole mess of sensors, and various year engine and computers that was never in a factory vehicle together so getting everything zeroed in is what I'm trying to do now. I don't know of any tuners locally that I would trust and that's why I got HP tuners in the first place.
Glad I found your channel! Awesome video! Looking forward to watching your other video's!
Accidentally added -10 for base spark advance not sure if noticed. You got me this into the videos for me to notice!! So smart! I may need your phone number for tuning help!! Lol! For now i will continue your playlist videos!
Another good video, can’t wait to see more 👍
Really big THANKS for making theses videos!!
Awesome video. Very helpful. Thank you.
Great video very informative, I’ve been able to know what I’m doing just by watching your videos. 👍👍👍
Thank you a lot for this great explanation
But I have questions we copy and multiple by half ? What if we just past it without multiply ?
You'll be pasting the error percentage, which won't work
You have helped me alot with tuning. Love your videos
What does DFCO do? If you shut it off won’t it make pops and bangs on Decel?
This tuner i asked to tune my car said he is going to charge me an extra 100$ to redo the airflow tables for my after market MAF is that reasonable or dumb because im thinking its preety dumb considering part of tuning is allready correcting your airflow tables so how would he have to completely reprogram my MAF airflow table 😂 i need explanation
Thanks for your time and effort into making my life a hell of alot easier, your knowledge and training capabilities have helped a first time tuner get the shopping trolley running after new cam, wideband addition etc, bloody legend!
Any pointers into running dual FBW Throttle Bodies utilising an E38 ecu 6.0 project 1937 Chevy pickup from Australia (not quite running yet) just looking to get some sort of base tune down, and anything else i should try.
Thanks,
Carl
Thank you
Thanks. This was a big help.
My Gen 4 Oxygen disable was different. I had a temperature to change verse your voltage.
great videos.. love the short, to the point video style
I'm new to tuning and your videos are great, but dam you go through it fast. Do you have a slower step by step videos!!! THANK you for taking the time and sharing your knowledge
Great Video's! Big help! Just wanted to add my experience with M.A.F. tuning here with HP. In terms of the M.A.F. 2D graph in the editor and it's smoothness. If you look at your scan in the charts VS time table you can see under W.O.T. as the RPM'S rise , the M.A.F. scan is not a smooth rising graph! It flattens out at points during the pull. This I believe has alot to do with camshaft as well as air flow from air filter to tail pipe. So if you smooth out all your peaks and valleys after an EFR error correction then make another scan and apply the EFR error corrections you will see your M.A.F. curve in the graph become un smooth again. Easy to see under WOT because no varying throttle input. Again great stuff!
Good input, Frank! Might have to try and figure a way of testing that out. Part of it is going to also be attributed to the way that the frequency is calculated may not be able to produce a smooth curve and will require correction. What you might be seeing is the correction to manufacturing differences. The standard curve works fine for a mass produced sensor when you take into consideration that you are using the O2 sensors to clean it up in the end.
Thanks again for the comment!
This section was definitely sped up but it is useful for sure. I'm doing research to see if I could get into tuning my own vehicles vs paying a shop hundreds of dollars per car
Love your videos man! I’m in Australia and I’m about to turbo my Ford territory (Barra)
Been watching your videos religiously learning as much as I can! Be cool if I could email you a log and see what you think of it or even have a play yourself see what you can do to it
Thank you very good info.
Just started using HP Tuners, I’m trying to disable Open Loop but I don’t have 02 Readiness Voltage as something I can change. How else do I go about keeping 02 sensors from adjusting fueling? Thanks!
I have the same question, you ever figure this out?
Thanks so much
ABT! Always be tuning!
Very very interesting ! Cool 👍
Ok so I know this is an old video but this works with the mpvi3 right? Or is there different stuff you gotta do? Great video by the way it really helps when you actually explain whats going on 👍
Exactly the same
When I make my maf error graph in the diagnostic I’m not getting any data when I drive the vehicle. What am I missing how do I get my hz to show up?
Awesome content but Ive had to continuously work out what page you're on as you just breeze from editor to scan pages without say what page to select. Still very beneficial but thank you RUclips for the pause and rewind buttons- You've been invaluable...
Great GREAT!! Info.
Great stuff, prefer the shorter more focused videos concept such as this one, just letting you know
Im having a hard time getting my EQ Error table to run. I feel as ive gone over the video a bunch of times but cant find what im missing. Runnig an AEM 30-0300 and MPVI3 with the prolink
I'm learning a lot
I followed these steps, added channel, graph, have eq error math, and copy labels, the graph works and I see hit but only shows 0.00 through multiple logs. Help
Thanks for all the info
When im going to ad the eq from my AEM 30-4110 I can choose from 8 options.
12 WB EQ Ratio 1 to ratio 8.
Does anyone know which one i should have. at 7:40 in the video
Hey GRG. First off you Tuning Videos are amazing. I just recently upgraded my V2 with heads, cam ported x blower, and intake. I was able to get the car going with the narrow band sensors just watching your videos. Now I'm trying wideband tuning. I purchased the AEM you mentioned. I doing MAF tuning now and disabled the Dynamic Airflow and O2. The issue now is I can't get the car to heat up the Wideband. It shows Heat about halfway up then the cam hits and it drops out of heat cycle. The wideband is in B2S2 in the Long Tube headers. Any tips on how the tune can help heat the Wideband.? 😊
Great information videos 😇 and i like short format its more focus in a topic
thanks for you alooot
First of all, thank you so much for all that you do!!!
Sometimes it’s difficult for me to see the data flow direction. Is it correct to say the MAF sends a frequency value to the PCM, then the PCM looks to the table to get the corresponding airflow amount?
Spot on
Awesome vid! Quick question, I’m tuning on a 2010 Camaro SS with an L99 and do not see an option to edit “O2 Readiness Voltage”. How would I accomplish this without seeing that as an option?
There should be a table or set point on the left hand of that table that will be engine coolant temp for enable closed loop, make it a high value
@@GoatRopeGarage Got it. I appreciate it!
How can I be sure that I am in Open Loop? My GEN 4 (L76) has different table options than your example in the video, so I would like to confirm I am currently only running off the MAF, for proper MAF curve tuning! Under Fuel, OXY sensors, Monitoring I do not have an O2 readiness voltage tab. Instead mine has O2 readiness ECT (it's a temperature table). My pre-existing tune was set to -40 across the board in this table. I set it to 493 (the maximum allowed) Was that the correct way to disable them? Also, under Airflow, Dynamic, Dynamic Airflow my High RPM Disable was ALREADY set to 100 and my High RPM Re-enable was ALREADY set to 90 in my Pre-existing tune, not sure why. Would this meen I was never switching to speed density under wide open throttle? The car was dyno tuned when i got it and runs really well. I am just trying to learn and fine tune it at the same time.
Harry, there is a PID you can monitor in the scanner, it's usually called something like fuel status, that will show if you're in open or closed loop. And yeah, max out that etc table for readiness to disable.
Just started messing with my 2011 ctsv I got a 5” intake but I don’t have a wide band. Is there a way to make it work ?
Could you explain what pasting the observed MAF values into the Airflow vs Frequency table using "Multiply by % - Half" achieves? I am pretty confused about the step at @14:53
Great vudeo, Love the format.
Hey bud great video
On hp tuners how do solve when u connect up to the vehicle not being able to read or write to the vehicle without it timing out the only way I could read my p59 was to remove it from the vehicle and use a bench harness? I even tried to disconnect the radio, remote start, and dorman hvac controller. On the bench I deleted vats. I would just like to be able to do everything in the vehicle thanks
I won a unicorn, one owner, first Gen 2003 Ford Focus. I have replaced the 1 5/8” header and complete exhaust with a 2.5” performance header and exhaust. Deleted the CAT. Installed a 2.5” x 12” long Flowmaster 40 muffler and a 2.5” x 12” long resonator. Complete K&N cold air intake kit. Upgraded the entire suspension leaving it at stock height. Lighter aluminum Koenig wheels and mounted Continental Road and Track tires on the wheels.
I made the mistake of purchasing the Thornton Stage 3 tune and app/software. Haven’t uploaded to Focus yet. Believe I will be returning the Thorton tune, after working through your tuning series.
Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thorton confirmed that they don’t have any active forums to support their product/brand. They just referred me to their reviews page.
Thanks 🙏in advance for whatever you might be able to suggest.
Sir i due appreciate your tutorial, good explanation i need a video practical with a car.🤝👍
In my log under the graph I don't see any numbers, just blue cell that's highlighted whatever hz it's on?
I’ve watched your videos multiple times, maybe I’m over thinking it and making it harder than what it is. But when you create the EQ ratio math what’s the reasoning behind editing the variable? I’m confused maybe it’s a stupid question I don’t know lol, you say add mass air flow and then add the wide band? I’m sorry if it was discussed anywhere else I just wanted to figure it out
I probably just over complicated it. As long as the built in math parameter for EQ error ratio works go ahead and use that. I just had to edit that one due to a scaling issue on the wideband.
Cc an HP tuners work on a 2002 Ford mustang 3.8l, I've got a fully built engine but needs a tune bad
Thank you for the videos, I’m learning this as I type. But I’ve noticed that some of the tabs you’re using aren’t available in my VCM editor and I’m using advanced. Gen 3 5.3 LM7
This may sound dumb, but Im very new to tuning with HPT. My question is why did you make it rich before logging?
So when you adjusted the fueling by 15% did you do that while car running or did you have to turn off adjust the saved tune file by 15% then re-upload into the car?
Also for example if I wanted say 5% more would I multiply by 1.05? And now what if you want Ted to take 5% or more out? How would you do that?
So I did my chart and before I did my calibration for the step 1 changes I started my truck and it shows -100.00 on the mad error chart is that normal?
First off, this guy is awesome.
Secondly, I'm super confused. With closed loop running all of the time, it's constantly adjusting the fuel. short term fuel trims are going to effect the wideband feedback and cause lean areas to slowly fall to stoich, and rich areas to also rise to stoich. Won't any hits you get also get corrected for?
Additionally, After following the instructions to disable fuel cuts, I still find spots where my lambda sensor goes full o2 at very low RPMs (~1200 or so) in a decel condition before it catches the idle. Something to look out for there as well. It will quickly throw off idle MAF adjustment.
How would you do this with connecting your wideband through the egr or ac circuit?