@@selemanecu actually, Jack was another alias for Naked Snake. The Boss says so in a codec call during Virtuous Mission. In his last showdown with Ocelot, he reveals his name is John - which is also the name of one of The Patriots’ AIs being JD (John Doe). I don’t think George would’ve been that sentimental.
@@TrollStackhe does in MGS4 but that’s just because everyone else is using CQC so he basically uses it as a reflex to counter them, he says himself that the soldier’s CQC is very “barebones.” Butttt…) he’s also old as fuck and needs every advantage he can get but that’s less cool,
Metal Gear reminds me of being in 4th grade and writing a bat shit story for school, only to make the twist at the end, “BUT IT WAS ALL A DREAM.” to get out of actually having to connect any plot elements together lmao
One eye, doesn't smoke, Solidus. Two eyes, doesn't smoke, Liquid. Two eyes, smokes cigarettes, Solid. One eye, E-cigar, Venom. And finally, the one who smokes cigars, Big Boss
There's 6 different characters that have the same codename John, the original Snake goes by the codename Naked Snake. Later, he is given the name Big Boss. He starts out not accepting that title, so he continues to call himself Snake. Big Boss ends up in a coma, and his DNA is stolen during that time. And 3 clones are made, David and Eli who are twins, and George, who is a "perfect" clone of Big Boss. George becomes the second Snake when he adopts the name Solidus Snake. It's not clear when, butbits safe to assume it was before Big Boss woke from his coma. Because Big Boss is being hunted by the organization, CYPHER, they make up a guy to think he's Snake, and give him plastic surgery to look like him. He becomes Venom Snake. He's the third Snake. After Big Boss starts to solely address himself as Big Boss, he drops the Snake codename, and gives it to David when he joins FOXHOUND, Big Boss' organization. David's codename becomes Solid Snake. Once Venom Snake and Big Boss are both defeated by David, Eli resurrects FOXHOUND and becomes its leader. In order to oppose David, he takes on the name Liquid Snake, becoming the 5th Snake. Due to the colonel being an AI during the Sons of Liberty incident, he addresses Raiden as Snake only briefly. I hope this helps clear it up.
If it makes this easier. Just treat Snake as a last name of a huge family: Naked: The father of the house Solid and Liquid: Sons, Twins Solidus: Yet another son Vemon: Naked's adoptive (and brainwashed) brother. Who was mistaken for Naked all the time Raiden: some poor kid who hangs with Solid a lot. So was breifly mistaken as a Snake. Later when he finds himself, he starts using swords, tossing metal gears, kills an ex-president, and pick fights with a Senator
Naked Snake: became big boss. Protag of MGS 3, 5, and Peace Walker. Solid Snake: clone of big boss, protag of MGS 1 and 4, and the prologue of MGS 2. Liquid Snake: Also clone of big boss, dies in 1 and gets arm attached to another character which.... Takes his mind over. Don't ask. Antagonist of MGS 1, 2, and 4. Solidus Snake: Another clone of Big Boss. Main antagonist of MGS 2. Only in 2. Venom Snake: dude pretending to be Big Boss. Protag of MGS 5. Everything else this dude mentions is irrelevant and/or just adds to the confusion. Raiden is not Snake, that was a troll by Kojima at the beginning of 2.
Venom snake explanation Venom is not some random medic he's you in the very first mission you create a avatar that represents you the player you put in your birth date your name you become apart of Big Boss' legacy
This is absolutely the best video I’ve seen that clears this up for gamers. And especially in such a short period of time! Not taking the time to explain the story link between everyone, but simply the distinction between all of the Snakes. Well done.
The main issue I have is that they clearly show the body of what’s supposed to be solidous snake in MGS4 and it’s missing the right eyeball which doesn’t make sense since solidous snake’s LEFT eye is the one that got got somehow, but whatever, let’s just say that in order to make it believable whenever was in charge of that swapped the eyes or whatever. Easy, HOWEVER, it doesn’t explain how Big Boss shows up at the end of MGS4 with ZERO burn marks. Burn marks that he would’ve received during his fight with solid snake in metal gear 2
I don’t have a source to give you but I remember somebody saying Cipher used Solidus’s body as a donor to repair Big Boss, either while BB was forced into a coma or afterwards. Not sure though and I could just be blowing smoke up your butt. It seems likely to me though
Actually it was explained in MGS4 in the final cutscene, but most people zoned out because it’s wayyyy too long. Basically Big boss in MGS4 is the same one who died* in MG2, his body was reconstructed using technology and Solidus and Liquid’s skin *I think he fell into a coma I don’t exactly remember.
Raiden was an attempt to recreate/enhance snake using purely experience, like the case was with venom, but it failed because Raiden’s baseline was too different
I have been playig metal gear series over 20 years, because its awesome. I just fell in love to these games when I very first time started playing mgs1 on my plastation. Last time I played mgsv was about two monts ago.
Meh some rando they mind f'ed into believing He's Big Boss aka Naked Snake kinda sums up Venom Snake just fine. It's Liquid Snake that's the hot mess. What with the whole arm thing and possessing Ocelot. Which is never properly explained. Let alone his kid version being able to go all Sith Lord at the end of V.
@@clothar23he aint a random he was msf’s best soldier that big boss considered a friend and thats why he brought him on the mission as the medic. Venom snake is easily the best written snake besides big boss. And for ocelot big boss did say that ocelot used hypnotherapy into believing hes liquid how the medic believed he was big boss
chonological lore of metal gear solid explained badly (spoiler alert): the philosophers: exist also the philosophers: so any we started blasting. the boss: gets pregnant to ocelot people to me : you can't just describe ocelott's entire character with 7 words. me: ocelott in a nutshell: big boss rules! the cipher: what a good day to be not-dead one member: I diagnose you with to-die soon. patriot's AI : *exists* the rest of the characters: I am about to end this man's whole career.
i know pliskin is not snake but is he because when he gives us the socom pistol raiden can actullay give a shaver (easter egg or smtn you can actualy pick a shaver on the swimming part with raiden) when you do that u can see that there is no beard on snake on the codec
The only thing I really learned from the entire metal gear series is that Hideo Kojima should always have an experienced and determined story editor right beside him at All Times!!!!
And I thoug Ocelot was a double agent by The Patriots and went into hypnosis with help from "0"s AI . That aside , Punished Snake /Venom Snake is "Medic" aka his best soldier (who I thought is Grayfox or he became later ?! ) The good thing about MGS universe is ,you could interpret a lot of lazy/messy design choices into a much better plot in your head-fanfiction. My only wish would be to close the gab between MG PP & Metal Gear 1 which was before Solid Snake infiltrated Outer Heaven. update: I did check Snake Eater Ending and he was a double agent named "ADAM" .
I thought they said in mgs4 that only solidus snake was a true perfect clone of big boss? Solid and liquid snake are only half clones of big boss. Each having either dominant or recessive genes whereas solidus had both dominant and recessive genes to be the perfect clone? So pretty much liquid and solid snake are more like sons of big boss rather than clones.
I allways thought that raiden being called snake in the beginning had to do with replicating the shadow moses incident to make any nobody soldier as great as sold snake (though it kinda didn't make sence since raiden actually has extensive combat training and is known as jack the ripper)Also is liquid ocelot actually just ocelot who brainwashed himself into believing he was being controlled by liquids arm for reasons i dont remember?
People who work for Wikipedia or other form of information Media should ask professionals or devs who is who because it really irritates me that they get confused it’s not hard to tell
I appreciate the attempt to clear it up but, to be honest, parts of your explanation was just as confusing. I had to pause and rewatch parts of your video multiple times which I imagine is the opposite effect you're going for. With something as confusing as this; different characters with the same name and appearance, you need to be explicit when clarifying. That means no short off the cuff explanations and no having different snakes on the same screen when describing only one of them. Lol. In future, an example could be, "this is liquid snake. He is also a clone of Big Boss. Big Boss is also referred to as Naked Snake". Explicit and clear, instead of; "Liquid Snake is Solid Snake's twin brother". Edit: I still liked your video.
After all this time im truly annoyed at how impossible this is to follow, and even more annoyed at all the conflicting information. You have so many "ahhh now i get it" Moments from random sentences that make no sense without context they never give you and its quickly followed by 4 more sentences that re confuse you and dont add up or are completely different from the other games. Ive listened to hours upon hours and it might have cleared up like truly 40 percent of this game😅 and noooow i gotta play all of them again lmaoo
There’s Solid Snake (David), Naked Snake (Big Boss), Venom Snake (You), Liquid Snake (Eli), and Solidus Snake (George). VERY simple.
Jack was also a temporary 6th “Snake” at the start of MGS2 before being changed to Raiden. Just love pointing out a trivial technicality.
@@XMan2001X☝️🤓
@@XMan2001X and let's not forget George named Jack after his father
@@selemanecu actually, Jack was another alias for Naked Snake. The Boss says so in a codec call during Virtuous Mission. In his last showdown with Ocelot, he reveals his name is John - which is also the name of one of The Patriots’ AIs being JD (John Doe). I don’t think George would’ve been that sentimental.
@@XMan2001X well Kojima did so intentionally though
The snakes and who they are is probably the easiest thing to understand in that crazy franchise.
Crazy, huh?.
It's worth noting that Smash Snake IS Solid, his Trophy description in Brawl refers to him as such and details his backstory.
Not to mention he uses a Nikita missile. However, his grabs allow him to CQC throw and color variations use MGS3 camos
@@TrollStacksolid knows CQC canonically, he just doesn’t use it
Exactly, solid doesn’t use cqc ???
@@TrollStackhe does in MGS4 but that’s just because everyone else is using CQC so he basically uses it as a reflex to counter them, he says himself that the soldier’s CQC is very “barebones.” Butttt…) he’s also old as fuck and needs every advantage he can get but that’s less cool,
@@seva7500that’s Old Snake, solid doesn’t use cqc
"I being playing this games for 15 years and I still don't know what's happening"
Truer words have never being spoken
Metal Gear reminds me of being in 4th grade and writing a bat shit story for school, only to make the twist at the end, “BUT IT WAS ALL A DREAM.” to get out of actually having to connect any plot elements together lmao
I think you missed a few snakes.
In MGS3, there's also the Coral Snake, and the Milk Snake.
What's the deal with them? Are they clones too?
Milk Snake brings all the boys to the yard
They're really tasty
@@StevenCBlahlmao underrated
@@StevenCBlahDamn right, he's better than George (Solidus)
One eye, doesn't smoke, Solidus. Two eyes, doesn't smoke, Liquid. Two eyes, smokes cigarettes, Solid. One eye, E-cigar, Venom. And finally, the one who smokes cigars, Big Boss
Doesn't V vape instead of smoke?
@@KM-uk2rt Yeah something like that, I have bad memory,
I am actually more confused after watching this 🤣
There's 6 different characters that have the same codename
John, the original Snake goes by the codename Naked Snake. Later, he is given the name Big Boss. He starts out not accepting that title, so he continues to call himself Snake.
Big Boss ends up in a coma, and his DNA is stolen during that time. And 3 clones are made, David and Eli who are twins, and George, who is a "perfect" clone of Big Boss.
George becomes the second Snake when he adopts the name Solidus Snake. It's not clear when, butbits safe to assume it was before Big Boss woke from his coma.
Because Big Boss is being hunted by the organization, CYPHER, they make up a guy to think he's Snake, and give him plastic surgery to look like him. He becomes Venom Snake. He's the third Snake.
After Big Boss starts to solely address himself as Big Boss, he drops the Snake codename, and gives it to David when he joins FOXHOUND, Big Boss' organization. David's codename becomes Solid Snake.
Once Venom Snake and Big Boss are both defeated by David, Eli resurrects FOXHOUND and becomes its leader. In order to oppose David, he takes on the name Liquid Snake, becoming the 5th Snake.
Due to the colonel being an AI during the Sons of Liberty incident, he addresses Raiden as Snake only briefly.
I hope this helps clear it up.
If it makes this easier. Just treat Snake as a last name of a huge family:
Naked: The father of the house
Solid and Liquid: Sons, Twins
Solidus: Yet another son
Vemon: Naked's adoptive (and brainwashed) brother. Who was mistaken for Naked all the time
Raiden: some poor kid who hangs with Solid a lot. So was breifly mistaken as a Snake.
Later when he finds himself, he starts using swords, tossing metal gears, kills an ex-president, and pick fights with a Senator
Naked Snake: became big boss. Protag of MGS 3, 5, and Peace Walker.
Solid Snake: clone of big boss, protag of MGS 1 and 4, and the prologue of MGS 2.
Liquid Snake: Also clone of big boss, dies in 1 and gets arm attached to another character which.... Takes his mind over. Don't ask. Antagonist of MGS 1, 2, and 4.
Solidus Snake: Another clone of Big Boss. Main antagonist of MGS 2. Only in 2.
Venom Snake: dude pretending to be Big Boss. Protag of MGS 5.
Everything else this dude mentions is irrelevant and/or just adds to the confusion. Raiden is not Snake, that was a troll by Kojima at the beginning of 2.
you're snake, im snake, everyones snake at this point
Venom snake explanation Venom is not some random medic he's you in the very first mission you create a avatar that represents you the player you put in your birth date your name you become apart of Big Boss' legacy
Unless you’re a woman who’s a fan of the series, and then you’re just making some guy
@@bloodandmustard5326 sex change :)
@@bloodandmustard5326some guy is the best soldier in big boss's army
BTW: Raiden as Jack und Rose was a reference for Jack and Rose from Titanic. Even the Stairway and how the Ship sinks has some similarities.
That’s not David or John in Smash, that right there is Solid Boss.
FYI: Snake did not age because he was how he was cloned. It was because of foxdie.
Naked snake : kept you waiting huh ?
Solid snake : liquid !!!!!!
Liquid snake : British accent...
Solidus snake: AMERICA. USA
- Why are you Snake?
- Who says i`m Snake?
- YOU are Snake.
This is absolutely the best video I’ve seen that clears this up for gamers. And especially in such a short period of time!
Not taking the time to explain the story link between everyone, but simply the distinction between all of the Snakes. Well done.
Proud to be a sub 100 subscriber.
Keep it up my guy!
Great video 👏
The main issue I have is that they clearly show the body of what’s supposed to be solidous snake in MGS4 and it’s missing the right eyeball which doesn’t make sense since solidous snake’s LEFT eye is the one that got got somehow, but whatever, let’s just say that in order to make it believable whenever was in charge of that swapped the eyes or whatever. Easy, HOWEVER, it doesn’t explain how Big Boss shows up at the end of MGS4 with ZERO burn marks. Burn marks that he would’ve received during his fight with solid snake in metal gear 2
I don’t have a source to give you but I remember somebody saying Cipher used Solidus’s body as a donor to repair Big Boss, either while BB was forced into a coma or afterwards. Not sure though and I could just be blowing smoke up your butt. It seems likely to me though
Actually it was explained in MGS4 in the final cutscene, but most people zoned out because it’s wayyyy too long. Basically Big boss in MGS4 is the same one who died* in MG2, his body was reconstructed using technology and Solidus and Liquid’s skin
*I think he fell into a coma I don’t exactly remember.
My head cannon is Venom goes on to become Decoy Octopus.
I've definitely heard worse theories, but the game makes it pretty clear Venom is the Big Boss that Solid Snake killed in the original Metal Gear.
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Kudos on the thumbnail, it got me to click on this video and i was pleasantly surprised by it's content 😎
*NO! THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE!*
If all these guys took a flight they'd be snakes on a plane
Enough is enough!
I've had it with these motherfuckin' snakes on my motherfuckin' plane!
Ive literally only played MGS on my dads PS and i always just called him bandana man lol
bandana boy
25 years playing this game since 1998 my first ps1 game
Maybe the real Snake is the friend we made along the way
Raiden was an attempt to recreate/enhance snake using purely experience, like the case was with venom, but it failed because Raiden’s baseline was too different
I have been playig metal gear series over 20 years, because its awesome. I just fell in love to these games when I very first time started playing mgs1 on my plastation. Last time I played mgsv was about two monts ago.
With that thumbnail made me think of the scene in SpongeBob with all the Squidwards
You are snake, everyone is snake!
"Venom Snake is just some guy that worked for Big Boss"
There's a bit more to it than that, A bit of a lackluster video
Meh some rando they mind f'ed into believing He's Big Boss aka Naked Snake kinda sums up Venom Snake just fine.
It's Liquid Snake that's the hot mess. What with the whole arm thing and possessing Ocelot. Which is never properly explained. Let alone his kid version being able to go all Sith Lord at the end of V.
@@clothar23he aint a random he was msf’s best soldier that big boss considered a friend and thats why he brought him on the mission as the medic. Venom snake is easily the best written snake besides big boss. And for ocelot big boss did say that ocelot used hypnotherapy into believing hes liquid how the medic believed he was big boss
“NOOO! THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE!”
chonological lore of metal gear solid explained badly (spoiler alert):
the philosophers: exist
also the philosophers: so any we started blasting.
the boss: gets pregnant to ocelot
people to me : you can't just describe ocelott's entire character with 7 words.
me:
ocelott in a nutshell: big boss rules!
the cipher: what a good day to be not-dead
one member: I diagnose you with to-die soon.
patriot's AI : *exists*
the rest of the characters: I am about to end this man's whole career.
Correction: Raiden did have a connction to snake prior to mgs2 (solidus snake)
I was referring to Solid Snake, specifically, but you do have a point. I hadn't considered that
Good content
i know pliskin is not snake but is he because when he gives us the socom pistol raiden can actullay give a shaver (easter egg or smtn you can actualy pick a shaver on the swimming part with raiden) when you do that u can see that there is no beard on snake on the codec
The only thing I really learned from the entire metal gear series is that Hideo Kojima should always have an experienced and determined story editor right beside him at All Times!!!!
You deserve more subscribers. Mr Subscribe Snake
And I thoug Ocelot was a double agent by The Patriots and went into hypnosis with help from "0"s AI .
That aside , Punished Snake /Venom Snake is "Medic" aka his best soldier (who I thought is Grayfox or he became later ?! )
The good thing about MGS universe is ,you could interpret a lot of lazy/messy design choices into a much better plot in your head-fanfiction.
My only wish would be to close the gab between MG PP & Metal Gear 1 which was before Solid Snake infiltrated Outer Heaven.
update: I did check Snake Eater Ending and he was a double agent named "ADAM" .
I thought they said in mgs4 that only solidus snake was a true perfect clone of big boss?
Solid and liquid snake are only half clones of big boss. Each having either dominant or recessive genes whereas solidus had both dominant and recessive genes to be the perfect clone?
So pretty much liquid and solid snake are more like sons of big boss rather than clones.
Raiden also held the codename snake for a short time
I've been confused by a few things here and there in the franchise, but not the Snakes. I know who's who and I don't see the what the big deal is.
Thanks.
Are these Snake? Sure is 👌
You have Snake the (Father) Snake the (Sons) and the Spirit of Snake (Venom)
I allways thought that raiden being called snake in the beginning had to do with replicating the shadow moses incident to make any nobody soldier as great as sold snake (though it kinda didn't make sence since raiden actually has extensive combat training and is known as jack the ripper)Also is liquid ocelot actually just ocelot who brainwashed himself into believing he was being controlled by liquids arm for reasons i dont remember?
Isn't there also an Acid Snake?
You're Snake, he's snake, and they're Snake too? Is there anymore Snakes we should know about?
Lets make simply guys Solid Snake ( David ), Naked Snake ( John ), Liquid Snake ( Eli ), Solidus Snake ( George ) and Venom Snake ( You or Ahab ).
YEah but when "Gaming" news websites say "SOLID SNAKE IS COMING BACK!!!!" for the new "MGS Delta" game, then it's just pure stupidity or lazyness
Where are Gas Snake and Plasma Snake? And a naked guy ironically called Fully-Clothed Snake?
Snake's the trinity 3 is 1 and 1 is all 3 😂
Awesome video. I still don’t understand it.
Me. Im Snake, he's literally me.
Maybe the real snake ws the one we met along the way in life.
People who work for Wikipedia or other form of information Media should ask professionals or devs who is who because it really irritates me that they get confused it’s not hard to tell
This would be more clear if you went a little more into the timeline of the plots in different titles.
So wich one is the original snake??
MGS3 Snake Eater. Solid Snake.
@@jupiterjazz8190naked snake*
Theres more snakes here than there are in Australia lol
What about Acid snake, huh? I thought he was pretty good.
I appreciate the attempt to clear it up but, to be honest, parts of your explanation was just as confusing. I had to pause and rewatch parts of your video multiple times which I imagine is the opposite effect you're going for.
With something as confusing as this; different characters with the same name and appearance, you need to be explicit when clarifying. That means no short off the cuff explanations and no having different snakes on the same screen when describing only one of them. Lol.
In future, an example could be, "this is liquid snake. He is also a clone of Big Boss. Big Boss is also referred to as Naked Snake". Explicit and clear, instead of; "Liquid Snake is Solid Snake's twin brother".
Edit: I still liked your video.
What there used to be a jackie chan snake :-o
That’s so cool, some really funny underrated youtuber should make a crash course for metal gear lore
no
how is this confusing naked snake = big boss and naked snake had 3 clones of him made solid liquid and solidus and raiden hes just raiden
wtf now every body is snake im snake you are snake wtf
I don't get it why do people think MGS story or timeline complicated.
Till this day I am immovable on my belief in the theory that Venom Snake is Frank Jeagar 🐍
The cyborg ninja from the mgs 1? Explain pls.
@@tot_1012it’s a dumb theory . No evidence for it what so ever
How could he be Frank, he dies in Metal Gear
Wasn’t raiden a brainwashed child soldier?
You made it more confusing dude you’re bad at this it’s not that hard there is only 5💀
1.Big Boss
2.Ahab
3.Solid
4.Liquid
5.Solidus
6.Raiden(kind of)
Guess I have a degree in metal gear solid because I understood everything on the 1st playthrough.
Man, that's a galaxy level brain you got there.
I guess content is content 🙄
Wait. What?! That wasn't Big Boss in MGSV?! Ok I need to replay the game cause I missed that part.
You missed the reason why the game was made in the first place
you pretty much missed everything about the game
After all this time im truly annoyed at how impossible this is to follow, and even more annoyed at all the conflicting information. You have so many "ahhh now i get it" Moments from random sentences that make no sense without context they never give you and its quickly followed by 4 more sentences that re confuse you and dont add up or are completely different from the other games. Ive listened to hours upon hours and it might have cleared up like truly 40 percent of this game😅 and noooow i gotta play all of them again lmaoo
200 likes and 100 subscribers makes no sense with premium content like this 👌
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