Yet it predicted internet/information censorship, Private Military Companies conducted conflicts for profit, and a bunch of other underlying themes like genetic engineering and advanced technology.
I always felt bad for venom snake who was just being used as a pawn and a double for Big Boss who couldn't just face his enemies himself. I know that he had a greater purpose but he really played with the medic so bad.
Hey at least Venom was proud when he learned who he really was and happy to share the title of big boss. At least until hes about to die to solid i mean
You can see the hesitation of the "Snake" and cracking patience of the Ocelot in the first hours of V.. and only after some list of achievements and completed missions the medic becomes Venom Snake.. and.. well.. looks like he liked that in the end
I’ve always understood most game franchise lores but metal gear timeline has always been so confusing and over the place that I just gave up and just appreciated the games for the amazing action
Just trying to follow what Ocelot was doing through the series makes my head hurt. He was triple of quadruple agent the whole time? The guy seems to be allied with everyone at some point of the story.
Don’t bother. I fully understand the plot but it took me 6 months of reading all MGS content online. I’ve Also played all the games There’s numerous retcons because Kojima admitted he didn’t even plan to keep going after MGS2
I appreciate your sentiments, but personally, I've always loved the arcane nature of the plot. It all works (although some of it does require retcons) and for me at least, it really makes you think. Probably says a lot about me when I say 4 is my favorite in the series.
Having run a DnD campaign with this many plottwists, I have to think that kojima just wrote this as he went. There's no way anyone could have planned this lmao
If Ocelot isn't pretending the whole time, there is another reason as to why the arm of liquid could take over his personality from time to time. Ocelot's dad, The Sorrow, was a strong medium who could talk to the dead and stuff. His abilities were not bought, he was born with them and could have passed them on to Ocelot when he was born and thus making him weak to a spirit of a dead man who's arm is attached to you.
What hurts me the most is venom snake is his best and most loyal soldier. Big boss kept blaming zero and those cloning project. But he himself agreed when zero and ocelot decided to changed ahab into venom snake, just because to save his own skin. Hes willing to agree on something that he hated so much to a point he broke his ties with zero. After all that trouble zero went through to save his old friend, big boss just ended up killing him😂
I actually met david hayter at a con a couple months back. He was super nice to me. I sadly only had enough money for a video with him (which is on my channel) but after we filmed it I brought out my game (metal gear solid legacy collection) and starting talking about how much i loved the first game so far (i just started playing it) he looks at me and asks "you want me to sign it?" I said "yeah but I don't have enough" so he took the game from me pulled out a sharpie and said "yeah well im gonna sign it anyways because i'm cool". After that i saw the line behind me was starting to fill up so I decided to leave i said goodbye and told him i would see him again at his Q and A later he then grabbed my shoulder and said "alright just remember: you're pretty good". I have so much appreciation for him. Edit: For the last 2 years this comment has just fermented. It has not only brought an absurd amount of views to the video with David in question (which for some reason will never beat that stupid idubbbz meme i made in two seconds like 3 years ago) but it has bombarded my notifications with replies either being 1. He sounds so cool 2. This feels like a fake story you would read on reddit Or 3. hE cHaRgEd YoU?! Like the first two I don’t really mind because truth be told it does kinda sound like a garbage “and then everybody clapped” kind of story, probably a result of how much I look up to him and how starstruck I was (even though I tried not to be) but the whole thing of people calling him a loser because he charged me is absurd because 1. Conventions REQUIRE that you charge, it’s how they make money. 2. Its also how the celebrities in question make money. Like from what I remember David lives somewhere in Canada and the convention was in Dallas. What sense would it make to fly all the way down there to not make any money? And 3. Even then he didn’t seem to care too much about the money anyways because he signed my game for free. Anyways David is a decent guy and was really happy I could share this experience with you guys (and on a couple of other metal gear videos because it was just the coolest thing to me at the time) have a good one.
I love David, he truly shows his appreciation for Solid and when actors do that is simply awsome! He has lended his voice to so many channels over the years, interacted with so many people, its just amazing, i totaly simp for both Davids. You can probably guess my middle name haha
Imagine convincing a secret group of private military members bent on twisting public opinion to rule the world though deliberate false information and brute force that you have been possessed by someone because you attached their arm to yours. Really think of that satisfaction. That has to be the world's best trolling effort in all of history.
By that stage, it was easier. Zero was suffering dementia, SigInt and Paramedic were dead, Eva had left and Ocelot was, well Ocelot. This left the AIs completely in charge. The AIs relied on logic and data to determine what was going on. They had no way of accounting for a scenario where Ocelot stopped being Ocelot, and Liquid was deemed dead. This gave Ocelot an identity that the Patriot AIs couldn't deal with. They can't track him because he's doesn't identify as Ocelot, not does he give tells that he's Ocelot anymore, so they can't even spy and see anyone identifying as such. Where a human could potentially see through it, a computer, sophisticated as it is, is still limited by what the programmers foresaw and thus could not. It was a genius plan. By MGS4, the AIs suspected something was up, as the deceased Liquid was accessing the broken GW system, which is why he needed Big Boss's (Actually Solidus') body, which he knew would happen as far back as MGS, which is why they wanted the body of Big Boss. So yeah, it was actually a stroke of genius, and incredibly likely to work.
@@ResidentWeevil82 if raiden simply let solidus finish his plan in the mgs 2,everything would be fine,and no gop with revengenance happening,since we know that after the fall of sop the world is a military-cyberpunk dystopia! George Sears,dead,and forgotten,because of patriots memes!
The AIs are actually quite limited They're not all knowing, they simply take data in and process it to understand which step works This is why PMC and "safer" battlefields of MGS4 are even a thing Also, remember that The Sorrow was already a thing in MGS3 So was Psycho mantis in MGSV Clearly the world of MGSV is not like ours and has more fantastical elements to it In this context, something like a dead man taking over through someone's arm sounds more plausible
@@agentorange9867 Dystopia, ehh, not really, it's just our current world with more funky cybernetic stuff. The codecs state that in the MGR universe civilians are still civilians, government cops are still normal cops, only hired securities are cyborgs. If you're the average American Joe you would likely see some people having cybernetics as prosthetics for lost body parts, and according to the MGR codec, those medical prosthetics function identically to human's body parts, nothing fancy as lifting a Metal Gear unlike their military counterpart. Issues like third world countries exploitation, the dehumanization of soldiers exist in our world, so it's not too different from the MGR world. Solid Snake has finally succeeded in "letting the world be", break the world free from a singular ideology ruling everything, giving people freedom to believe in what they want yet still respect other.
Protagonist becomes the Antagonist but it turns out it's actually a clone of the protagonist becoming the antagonist just for it to be revealed he was actually the protagonist the whole time pretending to be an antagonist
I always find it amusing that people didn't realize that Venom Snake wasn't the real Big Boss from the very beginning. I mean, Kojima never even tried to hide it. Keifer voicing, both, Ishmael AND Ahab. Quiet radioing in that "the patient in the next bed saw my face" before she tries to kill Venom. To top it all off, Ishmael flat out says "You're talking to yourself" when Venom asks who he is.
@@derrickrose5933 Codenames were used to protect Big Boss and Venom while they recovered from the helicopter crash. Big Boss was called Ishmael and Venom was called Ahab.
Another thing: Snake doesn't "get to live" he only finds out that he doesn't have to kill himself to keep the world safe from FoxDie, but it's still possibly killing him. He's told he "should" live, as in he should live as long as he can and not worry about when FoxDie will kill him as no one has a timeline for the virus.
@@TheRenegadeMage yeh foxdie became inert when the modified foxdie messed with it , its the clone lifespan thats killing him , being told he should live his life big boss ment enjoy the time you have left
Same here too. Been playing this franchise since day one release on PS1. Absolutely love it and know the whole story like the back of my hand ✋. Wait... what's that???
Welcome to the party. We have more Snakes than you imagined. Naked Snake, Venom Snake, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake and Solidus Snake. And guess what. One of these Snakes is YOU.
yet it only talks about the most superficial events without touching the story's themes, character motivations, etc (I assume for brevity). For the real in-depth rabbit hole of hours-upon-hours analysis check out Futurasound Productions yt channel. It's kind of insane the amount of story that this 30+ years old series has to offer.
the reality is Kojima has always had a boner for hollywood, as seen by the fact he's tried to replace hayter with a hollywood actor prior to mgsv (he wanted kurt russel in mgs3) so he got kiefer, finally
If it's any consolation, some people don't also get everything even after playing the games. Your best bet is to Google the full timeline and then have another tab open for the Metal Gear wiki (gotta look up all the terms!)
23:35 Damn, Solid Snake destroyed my beloved Diamond Dogs and kill all fultoned comrades. All my work blown away. Wait, when I play Metal Gear 1 I kill myself and all of my man... Damn... Kojima... That is real Phantom Pain.
I'm swearing off comment sections from now on. That didn't click in my head until I saw your comment and rewatched. And I JUST reached the end of mgs5 again... broke my heart
There's also a chance where every original DD soldier died or retired before the Outer Heaven incident. Ship of Theseus and all that. I thought about that too (just finished replaying MGSV last week). Hopefully that is the case.
My first MGS was msg4 and It instantly became my favorite game but I understood nothing about the story. Then msg5 came out years later and I still understood nothing so this video helped a lot. I finally understand everything about story and I’ve got to say that it’s a roller coaster. A good one though. 10/10 franchise
Yes and no. At the start it was a blank slate, so it was quite easy for Kojima to develop it further. He is always compromising on his big visions as well, so he likely has more that he wished to do than the budget allowed, supposedly his dream for the first game itself was something far beyond the capabilities of the hardware, something even bigger than MGSV. That means he knew more or less what he wanted to write and he had time to do refine it. The issue is that once he started filling all the timeline, he had to keep in mind previous decisions he might not remember or even made counciously. And as he wrote more, the less leeway he had with the characters shown previously. If anything, that is why there are so many characters and they are all confusing, he had to repurpose characters and introduce new ones without overshadowing the previous ones nor being forgetable themselves.
There's plenty of ways to retroactively include past plots into future ones. Like I bet until the concept of MGS3 started being developed, Big Boss was probably named that simply because he was the final boss of Metal Gear. There was no Venom Snake when MG1 was released. That conveniently allowed for a backstory on how he got that name to be created in MGS3, and for Venom Snake to later be slotted into that role in the first game.
I agree. Is there a man out there classier than David Hayter? I think not. But Yuri Lowenthal may come close. He also showed up on a random youtuber's video, cameoing and recommending that person's channel. You know how they say "never meet your heroes"? Well, I think there's always a few exceptions to pretty much any rule, and those are 2 amazingly astounding examples. Thank God for the Metal Gear Series. It's so insane, but it's amazing and like David Hayter said here, it's also a series that's near and dear to my heart. I wouldn't want to live in a world without MGS, or without Solid Snake, or without David Hayter.
Metal Gear is such a cool univers. I hope that, in the future it gets the love it deserves. I'd pay alot of money for a whole saga of remastered Metal Gear games.
Yeah you play as the Medic from Ground Zeros. He underwent intensive psychological manipulation making him think he was Big Boss as well as plastic surgery to make him look like him. The guy in the hospital bed next to him with his face all bandaged up is the real Big Boss
@@Mojo1356once you played the game how can you continue to be mad? You’re not OG Big Boss nor Solid. You’re venom snake, a medic that was on the same helicopter that exploded during Ground Zeros. Of course he’d have a different voice actor. He was an entirely different person.
@@Woyaboy explain the Japanese version that didn’t change voice actors then. Face it. Kojima replaced Hayner solely because he wanted a Hollywood actor. Your point is completely moot.
@Mojo1356 The hell it is. And FYI, Kojima has been looking to replace Hayter as Snake since MGS3. Personally, Hayter should have stayed Solid Snake and not Naked Snake. Naked Snake should have been voiced by another voice actor.
The friendship between otacon and snake and even how it was foreshadowed by their "parents" was something I loved. Up until meeting otacon, I felt snake was cold and detached as expected from being an instrument of war. Otacon was the humanizing element for him. And otacon got the resilience he needed from snake. Watching them work together through the series was something I truly admired and looked forward to. I wish we could see more of their work as Philanthropy.
Despite the fact that Peace walker introduces Huey and BB as stand ins for Snake and Otacon, i choose to believe this is a gene vs meme type situation and that Strangelove and Boss are also parents to them, memetically. Strangelove's final wish was for Hal to inherit Boss' will, after all, the will described as "let the world be", and thats the motto of Philanthropy. Snake and Otacon, despite never meeting either Strangelove or Boss, realized their memes, rising above their own cursed genes. Its so stupid and poetic and I want to inject it into my veins
i feel like the clunky gameplay of the earlier titles is part of the fun though. mgs1/twin snakes especially. never gonna happen anyway since konami just makes metal gear pachinko machines for japanese gambling dens and nothing else.
Well there was a project that was working on remaking the original 2 Metal Gear games that would see the stories altered to fit the revised timeline but it got shutdown
I just replayed the old games, and honestly, I'd hate if they had new gameplay in them. It'd make the games feel like mgs4, and honestly that was the game that played like an action game more than a stealth game. The old controls always made me feel like I had to carefully plan every step as I move.
After all this, Raiden got the spotlight back again in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, which is quite unique of it being the AFTERMATH to Guns of the Patriots. The game even hints off the various things OF MGS from what Raiden can remember as Easter Eggs and Secrets.
This is actually true. When you beat the Big Dinosaur Robot and kill skull face and finish the last mission, the credits starts rolling in and after that it explains the different Timelines and how we got to MGSV.
the Japanese VA for big boss and solid in mgs sop were actual estranged father and son and actually reconnected in that heartfelt scene in the grave yard
If you listened to Huey's cassette tapes in MGSV he actually talks about cloning and dr.clark and how great it would be if they somehow they didn't let his generics go to waste LMAO
@@Lord_Dranek yeah hes snakes most loyal medic/soldier that saves snake from the helicopter. so hes venom snake and Ishmael is the actual snake. just adding to what you said
@@commandergull8188 so that ishmael guy who’s been watching GZ medic for 9 years is actually the real big boss, then where’s Big Boss clone if the medic is not the clone? (Still confused with this timeline.)
@@myr7663 basically they made the GZ medic to be big boss they brainwashed him into thinking he was the real big boss until the actual big boss could fully recover. thats why if you kill ishmael you cause a time paradox. so the GZ medic is basically a "clone" of big boss since he now has the abilities and memorys of snake.
Metal Gear Solid 3 was one of the most beautiful and complete games I've ever played in my life. Sad that at 14, most games I would then play after would only be a step down lol
OmFG yes man yes, i cannot believe it either. Snake eater was such an amazing experience i thought games could do nothing but get better. Now its 2020 and here we are lmao.
@@reitairue2073 I was younger than that, so I never understood the game completely. I always wanted more in a video game and I felt like Snake Eater had it all. That game got me into series but I never saw it again until MGS4 came out. It's still confusing af.
Can't think up something clever or even relevant to end your comment with? Wrote yourself into a hole?.. Just use a meme that has absolutely nothing to do with what you're saying and watch them likes roll in making you feel special and important!... even though you aren't and will never be..
In one perspective, Big Boss is the protagonist and Solid is a pawn being used in the same way Big Boss was. In another, Big Boss is a warmonger and Solid is the ultimate hero. It depends on what angle you're looking at it from.
I certainly relate more to the story of Big Boss, his motivations feel much more human, and much less idealistic than what MGS1 and MGS2 preach, I've yet to tie up the story in game though cause my PC still isn't good enough to emulate MGS4 lmao. But MGS3-MGSV Phantom pain tell a VERY satisfying story. Metal gear Rising had an amazing story too, sad we will never get a sequel now cause Konami sucks nuts.
Blown away at the effort put into this lengthen story on the entire MGS timeline. Massive thank you to David for offering his talents. Nice ending with the real big boss showing up, passing away and giving advice to his clone son. Only part I can't get over is wanting to know what solid snake lived rest of his life and what happened to the world? I guess the break off would be raiden vengeance
noticed hayder has been on a lot of online shows recently. Most notebly did you know gaming where he narrates the videos about metal gear. And here he still nails the role. Last time he voiced snake in a video game was in smash ultimate in 2018 which is damn 4 years.
These histerical quips are hilarious in these comments. How many people did Ocelot work for as a secret agent? Answer: Yes.... hahaha. love your comment.
Hearing David Hayter as Snake is always a damn treat. That's awesome you got him in on this video man! Great video as well but Snake puts it over the top easily!
People that never played these games: "Wow this is long video explaining the timeline" Those of us that played and beat all these games: "You have no idea, this is only a timeline explained in a very short nutshell."
Wasnt the corpse of big boss actually solidus's body since he was a perfect clone? I think ya may have failed to mention that lol but overall dope video love this series and helps bring back memories of beating all the games!
@@BlackHawkBallistic nah i remember them specifically sayin it was solidus's body otherwise it wouldnt of worked it had to be an exact copy of big boss
Yeah, Big Boss in MGS4 is Solidus' body implanted with Big Boss' conscious via the nanomachines. Big Boss' original body was that crispy thing on the table they kept alive for decades to extract his conscious from
Really late to the party...But I'll say this ; Nice Video!At first I didn't understand ANYTHING but after watching a few gameplay videos and setting in on the fact that I didn't need to remember EVERY single character and event , it became a lot easier and clearer!
Dear Mr. Leaderboard I wanna thank U so much for taking the time to explain the whole series in detail. I must have played and beaten games 1-4 7 times and I could never fully understand the whole story until now. Because of U I was able to fully understand in mere minutes what I couldn't in hours of gameplay. Thanks to U I now have a much better concept and grasp if the MGS stories. The thank U and herl up the good work.
this video has several serious mistakes. like the first one. MGS3 snake eater you do NOT play as the real big boss you plat as solid snake. because in the game you are called solid snake. also raiden can be seen wearing his cyborg parts in MGS5 so explain how he is shown in the next game as a human with no robotic parts. These timelines are messed up. Also those BIG BOSS remains he talked about are the ORIGINAL big bosses remains from MGS3 snake eater. Also Metal gear rex is the same metal gear as sahelanthropus from MGS5... dont believe me> watch gameplays of all the games i mentioned. ive played every single game for hundreds of hours and i can tell you right now. this storyline is violently incorrect.
@@venomexer1880 about the Raiden thing, you can also play as solid snake in MGS5 even though they’re canonically not in the game yet. The characters still call you big boss because they’re just costumes and Easter eggs for fans. Not canonical characters
@@venomexer1880 yeah them using Snake for codenames of all characters gets confusing. And adding the Portable Ops creates more plot holes and inconsistencies. If you want to headcanon some things for everything to make sense: pretend that the games that don't fit are someone retelling a story, or a VR simulation of it, and has mistakes and omissions. Will feel easier, like in Assassin's Creed, every error is just "a glitch in animus", or in Fate, every variation on events is another branch of the multiverse tree. Or in Gundam, all animated shows are canon even if they directly contradict each other. In MGS you got a skating minigame in 2 and Ape Escape monkey catching part in 3 where Snake laments that Gabe (Syphon Filter) and Sam (Splinter Cell) are busy. It's just fun! So yeah, it's just games, use the MST3K mantra of "it's just a show" and enjoy without worrying that some things don't line up. Especially in spy series where everything is so confusing even to characters within the story. Just take every retelling of the story (i.e. Twin Snakes vs original MGS cutscenes) as just that, a variation for fun.
@@Redox_Rajox2628 your in full circle then it crashes down then a sequel. If you watch the anime of Fate Series/Franchise. That's the exact equivalent of Telling a Random dude the timeline story
19:05 was the funniest thing I've heard in a long time! The way David/snake says "why did Meryl marry johnny the diarrhea kid" was FUNNY AS HELL! OMG LOL
0:23 "Spans almost a full century..." It DOES span a full century I'm pretty sure. The Philosophers is in 1918 and Metal Gear Rising: Revengence (last game in the timeline which came out in 2013) takes place in 2018 Metal Gear Saga: 1918-2018
@@ShoryYTP Slow it down there buckaroo, they said the same thing about Portable Ops. And only like 5% of that *isn't* canon. And if you ask me it fits perfectly in the timeline, makes perfect sense, and has no reason minus the whole Kojima thing not to be.
@@P.V.3606 nanomachines are gone after MGS4, right? The PMCs and all that? If MGR was canon, it would mean the MGS4's ending was worthless, and everything went back the way it was, like if snake never existed. I personally don't like that, and consider MGR as a spin-off based in an alternate universe
@@ShoryYTP I agree and disagree. Although it is likely going to be forever considered a spin-off, MGS4's ending wasn't a waste. The prime minister even acknowledged "...how far we've come in 4 short years." Although yes, the nanomachines plot point is 100% confusing, I'm still on the fence. It's either a true spin-off, or I could imagine in the future they pull a Portable Ops and say "It's only semi-canon" or "Only a few aspects from the game are truly canon." But I do agree, I'm upset that Raiden's ending was essentially discarded.
ShorY (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ I think the PMCs were sort of solved during MGR. When Sundowner said “Africa’s getting just a bit too peaceful” it means that he wanted to make it dangerous as to get jobs from African warlords and such.
The timeline of the MGS series is always the one thing I hope people will ask me about. This vid did clear a few things up still though. Didn’t realise how much I missed David’s voice too.
@@roybenari Wikipedia article snippets: Five Nights at Freddy's (FNaF) is an American media franchise created by Scott Cawthon. The first game of the same name was released on August 8, 2014 and has since gained worldwide popularity. The main series consists of nine survival horror video games taking place in locations connected to a fictional family pizza restaurant franchise named "Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza", after its mascot, the animatronic bear Freddy Fazbear. In most games, the player assumes the role of a night-time employee, who must utilize tools such as security cameras, lights, doors, and vents to defend themselves against hostile animatronic characters that inhabit the locations. The series' lore is gradually revealed through voice recordings, minigames, and easter eggs featured throughout the games. The franchise also includes spin-off games and other media, such as a novel trilogy and an anthology series, comprising an all-encompassing fictional universe. The franchise maintains an active fanbase, known for its production of fan art and fangames, and merchandise for the games is available internationally The idea for Five Nights at Freddy's stemmed from negative reaction to Scott Cawthon's previous game, the family-friendly Chipper & Sons Lumber Co. Players said that the main character (a young beaver) looked like "a scary animatronic animal", and reviewer Jim Sterling called the game "unintentionally terrifying".[1][2] Initially discouraged by the criticism, Cawthon (who had previously primarily developed Christian-oriented games) eventually used the feedback to make something intentionally scarier.[1] Five Nights at Freddy's was released via Desura on August 8, 2014. On August 20, after it was approved by the service's crowdsourcing platform Greenlight, Five Nights at Freddy's was also released on Steam.[3] When the game was picked up by well-known RUclipsrs it became an internet sensation.[4]: 82 The sequels were released on November 10, 2014, March 2, 2015, July 23, 2015, October 7, 2016, December 4, 2017, June 27, 2018, May 28, 2019, November 25, 2019, and December 16, 2021, respectively. A spin-off from the series, FNaF World, was announced in a Steam post by Cawthon in September 2015,[5] and was released in January 2016. Cawthon releases teasers for his games on his website,[6][7] and trailers on his RUclips channel. He used Clickteam Fusion 2.5 to create the Five Nights at Freddy's games and Autodesk 3ds Max to model and render the games' 3D graphics.[8] To enhance Sister Location, Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator, Ultimate Custom Night, Help Wanted, and Special Delivery, Cawthon used professional voice actors and original soundtracks.[9] In May 2016, he announced that all titles would be remade by third-party companies for release on consoles.[10] Cawthon posted on his website in 2015 that he planned to publish his first novel (The Silver Eyes) in the near future, with its stories separate from that of the games.[11] Cawthon also announced that it would be co-written by author Kira Breed-Wrisley. On June 20, 2016, Scholastic announced that it would collaborate with Cawthon on a multi-book deal.[12] The Silver Eyes was released on December 17, 2015 on Amazon Kindle,[13] and the paperback version was published on September 27, 2016, slightly earlier than its originally planned October publication date.[14] A second novel, The Twisted Ones, was published on June 27, 2017,[15] followed by The Fourth Closet on June 26, 2018.[16]
@@roybenari it's infamous for how the story is almost always remade and changed and never seems to end despite having the "final entry" multiple times.
MGS 4 has waaaaay more emotional moments as every thread is firmly tied up, plus you can never beat that ending with the series’ 2 protagonists having one last chat...”this is good, isn’t it?”
Kojima was a writer on Portable Ops. It is key to Big Boss who recruits his first soldier Johnny who sacrifices himself at the end. He also teams up with Roy Campbell and Null A.K.A. Frank Jaeger/Gray Fox and brings him back to America. Elisa literally tells Snake about one son bringing the world to ruin while one will try to save it. Ocelot kills the director of the C.I.A. Yeah it has Zero, Sigint, Para-Medic, Ocelot, Gene etc. playable but the story is cannon.
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I’ve already seen this, guess ill watch it twice
1. Samurai Shodown
2. The King of Fighters
3. Megaman
4. Sonic
5. Kirby
Kirby makes no sense try that as a challenge
GTA timeline, please? And Thank you!
MGS raiden since he still had one game set after MGS4
YOO you got David Hayter on this. You’re pretty good
“Pretty...good...oghf...” I SEE WOT YOU DID THAR, YOU SEE WOT I DID HUR?
You can pay David like 40 bucks on cameo to say whatever you want.
@The ill will Have you not played ghost babel or portable ops?
@@shnouth5391 Yep, that's how the world was graced with the dummy thick video.
You can pay him $50 to say stuff for you, even Grandayy made a Minecraft meme with his voice.
That’s some strong stuff Kojima smoked when writing the story.
4 and Peace Walker are so stupid (V doesnt even have a story)
Coleco 84
IKR! I’ve beaten V and didn’t even realized I’ve beaten it until much later.
Coleco 84 1 2 3 epic 4 weird af
@@Jose-se9pu 4 was kojimas goodbye; 5 didnt matter much to him.
Yet it predicted internet/information censorship, Private Military Companies conducted conflicts for profit, and a bunch of other underlying themes like genetic engineering and advanced technology.
This insane plot would probably have been a tad easier to follow if half the cast didn't consist of identical people named snake..
or Boss and Big Boss
LOL, it makes it that much more intersting IMO
@@BREAKocean it makes it much more brain damaging to me
Long snake and small snake would have been easier tbh
@@hoangblox9991 lmaooooooooo
I always felt bad for venom snake who was just being used as a pawn and a double for Big Boss who couldn't just face his enemies himself. I know that he had a greater purpose but he really played with the medic so bad.
Hey at least Venom was proud when he learned who he really was and happy to share the title of big boss. At least until hes about to die to solid i mean
And their story with Quiet is so sad too.
And to think it all really was just monitored and exploited by Cipher
To me Venom had earned his title with how much he(we) accomplished.
You can see the hesitation of the "Snake" and cracking patience of the Ocelot in the first hours of V.. and only after some list of achievements and completed missions the medic becomes Venom Snake.. and.. well.. looks like he liked that in the end
Teacher: "the test is not that hard"
The test:
Your right, I’m soooo confused
No this is a video nice try kid stay in your lane big head lame boy/girl
@@NDW_248 are you daft?
@@RIKKIDAHQUEEN i think they were joking...
probably...
...hopefully
@@Ohokk0 no deadass
Never had to pause and rewind a video so much in my life
FACTS
Glad I am not the only one
I played each of these games 5 times (played mgs1 37times) and I STILL had to stop and rewind the video a dozen times. Lmao
bruh wait till u try kingdom hearts XD
Check Steak Bentley’s “metal gear 4 was a mistake”
War, has changed. The metal gears are getting more advanced with each prequel
Fire Storm lol agreeeeeed
the irony
They don't make them like they used to.
Solid had it easy
Seriously, when I saw Sahelanthropus for the first time I was honestly panicking. REX and Ray never even came close to evoking that in me.
Fire Storm you're wrong, war never changes
I’ve always understood most game franchise lores but metal gear timeline has always been so confusing and over the place that I just gave up and just appreciated the games for the amazing action
Just trying to follow what Ocelot was doing through the series makes my head hurt. He was triple of quadruple agent the whole time? The guy seems to be allied with everyone at some point of the story.
@@Enterperse i believe that even kojima himself, doesn't really know what kinda agent ocelot is. i still hate the storyline. its messed up.
Don’t bother. I fully understand the plot but it took me 6 months of reading all MGS content online.
I’ve Also played all the games
There’s numerous retcons because Kojima admitted he didn’t even plan to keep going after MGS2
Biggest thing to remember is mgs5 the phantom lame is not canonical
I appreciate your sentiments, but personally, I've always loved the arcane nature of the plot. It all works (although some of it does require retcons) and for me at least, it really makes you think. Probably says a lot about me when I say 4 is my favorite in the series.
40:50 Plot twist: the complicated story of Metal Gear Solid is just a hidden effort to stop people from smoking
Never
You stole exactly what I was gonna say lol the whole franchise is just one big anti smoking ad campaign. It even says it on the loading screens lol
You can’t smoke whilst gaming really you need both hands on the control. Haha.
I mean, less people are smoking, so maybe it's working
Explain the loading screens from MGS4 then
39:21 "and then, a plot twist"
Bro this entire story is a plot twist lol
Ikr REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Mfw everything is either a plot twist, a plot hole, or a plot hole that was later filled with a plot twist
"story" "plot"
This story is a plot twizzler
plottwistception.
Having run a DnD campaign with this many plottwists, I have to think that kojima just wrote this as he went. There's no way anyone could have planned this lmao
Attack on Titan has been written 10 years ago.
@@nguyenthanhhai6725 ???
@@nguyenthanhhai6725.... What's your point?
He planned it lol
Never underestemate him
If Ocelot isn't pretending the whole time, there is another reason as to why the arm of liquid could take over his personality from time to time. Ocelot's dad, The Sorrow, was a strong medium who could talk to the dead and stuff. His abilities were not bought, he was born with them and could have passed them on to Ocelot when he was born and thus making him weak to a spirit of a dead man who's arm is attached to you.
What hurts me the most is venom snake is his best and most loyal soldier. Big boss kept blaming zero and those cloning project. But he himself agreed when zero and ocelot decided to changed ahab into venom snake, just because to save his own skin. Hes willing to agree on something that he hated so much to a point he broke his ties with zero. After all that trouble zero went through to save his old friend, big boss just ended up killing him😂
What you said was played out in the graphic novel of MGS2
I actually met david hayter at a con a couple months back. He was super nice to me. I sadly only had enough money for a video with him (which is on my channel) but after we filmed it I brought out my game (metal gear solid legacy collection) and starting talking about how much i loved the first game so far (i just started playing it) he looks at me and asks "you want me to sign it?" I said "yeah but I don't have enough" so he took the game from me pulled out a sharpie and said "yeah well im gonna sign it anyways because i'm cool". After that i saw the line behind me was starting to fill up so I decided to leave i said goodbye and told him i would see him again at his Q and A later he then grabbed my shoulder and said "alright just remember: you're pretty good". I have so much appreciation for him.
Edit: For the last 2 years this comment has just fermented. It has not only brought an absurd amount of views to the video with David in question (which for some reason will never beat that stupid idubbbz meme i made in two seconds like 3 years ago) but it has bombarded my notifications with replies either being
1. He sounds so cool
2. This feels like a fake story you would read on reddit
Or
3. hE cHaRgEd YoU?!
Like the first two I don’t really mind because truth be told it does kinda sound like a garbage “and then everybody clapped” kind of story, probably a result of how much I look up to him and how starstruck I was (even though I tried not to be) but the whole thing of people calling him a loser because he charged me is absurd because
1. Conventions REQUIRE that you charge, it’s how they make money.
2. Its also how the celebrities in question make money. Like from what I remember David lives somewhere in Canada and the convention was in Dallas. What sense would it make to fly all the way down there to not make any money?
And
3. Even then he didn’t seem to care too much about the money anyways because he signed my game for free.
Anyways David is a decent guy and was really happy I could share this experience with you guys (and on a couple of other metal gear videos because it was just the coolest thing to me at the time) have a good one.
GIVE US MOTHER 3 he’s such an awesome guy
Brennan Connelly he sure is
Was he charging for photos and signatures?
@@grasshoppersantwitch6087 it doesn't sound right
@@grasshoppersantwitch6087 Probably not directly *his* idea
I could be studying real history, but instead, here I am pausing the video every few minutes to try to comprehend this
Exactly what the Patriots AI want...
@@Americansikkunt that makes no sense...what the la li lu le lo want?
Akevy Digital Censorship...Or perhaps "digital distraction". YOU will think what THEY want to you. And they DONT want you to STUDY history.
InB4 it turns out this IS the real history and we were all lied to by The Patriots AI...
It may not be real history but its real art.
This series could be named "Only a Snake can kill another Snake, and Boss is just a state of mind."
It's always great when David Hayter shows his love for his inner Solid Snake. Really brings it together...
I love David, he truly shows his appreciation for Solid and when actors do that is simply awsome! He has lended his voice to so many channels over the years, interacted with so many people, its just amazing, i totaly simp for both Davids. You can probably guess my middle name haha
Yes david realy cares about his fans he is the best voice actor
@@holenwegerike3001 David4life
#MetalGear
#keptYouwaitingHuh?
I miss him as the big boss.
At minute 17, I have 0 idea what’s going on!
Ocelot is my fav metal gear character he appears in every game and never loses sight of his true goal to liberate the world of the patriots
HERO OF THE SERIES!
Ocelot is... Pretty good
Raiden is my favorite metal gear character
*cough PEACE WALKER cough*
The Boss son ended up saving the world while being the villian the whole time. So wth was Solid Snake doing this whole time LMAO.
Imagine convincing a secret group of private military members bent on twisting public opinion to rule the world though deliberate false information and brute force that you have been possessed by someone because you attached their arm to yours. Really think of that satisfaction. That has to be the world's best trolling effort in all of history.
By that stage, it was easier.
Zero was suffering dementia, SigInt and Paramedic were dead, Eva had left and Ocelot was, well Ocelot. This left the AIs completely in charge.
The AIs relied on logic and data to determine what was going on. They had no way of accounting for a scenario where Ocelot stopped being Ocelot, and Liquid was deemed dead. This gave Ocelot an identity that the Patriot AIs couldn't deal with. They can't track him because he's doesn't identify as Ocelot, not does he give tells that he's Ocelot anymore, so they can't even spy and see anyone identifying as such. Where a human could potentially see through it, a computer, sophisticated as it is, is still limited by what the programmers foresaw and thus could not.
It was a genius plan.
By MGS4, the AIs suspected something was up, as the deceased Liquid was accessing the broken GW system, which is why he needed Big Boss's (Actually Solidus') body, which he knew would happen as far back as MGS, which is why they wanted the body of Big Boss.
So yeah, it was actually a stroke of genius, and incredibly likely to work.
@@ResidentWeevil82 if raiden simply let solidus finish his plan in the mgs 2,everything would be fine,and no gop with revengenance happening,since we know that after the fall of sop the world is a military-cyberpunk dystopia!
George Sears,dead,and forgotten,because of patriots memes!
The AIs are actually quite limited
They're not all knowing, they simply take data in and process it to understand which step works
This is why PMC and "safer" battlefields of MGS4 are even a thing
Also, remember that The Sorrow was already a thing in MGS3
So was Psycho mantis in MGSV
Clearly the world of MGSV is not like ours and has more fantastical elements to it
In this context, something like a dead man taking over through someone's arm sounds more plausible
We do a little trolling
@@agentorange9867 Dystopia, ehh, not really, it's just our current world with more funky cybernetic stuff. The codecs state that in the MGR universe civilians are still civilians, government cops are still normal cops, only hired securities are cyborgs. If you're the average American Joe you would likely see some people having cybernetics as prosthetics for lost body parts, and according to the MGR codec, those medical prosthetics function identically to human's body parts, nothing fancy as lifting a Metal Gear unlike their military counterpart. Issues like third world countries exploitation, the dehumanization of soldiers exist in our world, so it's not too different from the MGR world. Solid Snake has finally succeeded in "letting the world be", break the world free from a singular ideology ruling everything, giving people freedom to believe in what they want yet still respect other.
I watch this like...twice a year just to keep the story straight in my head lol
Me too! 😂😅
And then the supreme meme known as Raiden pulls up in Revengeance and starts casually stomping MG-Rays like an absolute madlad.
Rules of Nature 😎🔪⚡
The Question is, has any character played college ball?
@@mitochondria6247 Nanomachines, Son!
@@know8926 Interesting. Might these miniscule pieces of advanced technology somehow strengthen when coming into contact to a physical force?
@@mitochondria6247 if you put it like that you can't hurt them anymore
Hearing David Hayter as Snake again was more emotional than I thought.
I had flash backs to when i was 14 :)
Protagonists that have become antagonists, it is truly great how the development happens.
venom snake is still the best and non canon version of him i count is at canon
Protagonist becomes the Antagonist but it turns out it's actually a clone of the protagonist becoming the antagonist just for it to be revealed he was actually the protagonist the whole time pretending to be an antagonist
@@dragonslayergod protagonists in disguise antagonizing other protagonists in disguise.
Like Eren in attack on titan
@@JayPlusForerunner If only the AoT fanbase could understand that a protagonist can become and antagonist like that.
I always find it amusing that people didn't realize that Venom Snake wasn't the real Big Boss from the very beginning. I mean, Kojima never even tried to hide it. Keifer voicing, both, Ishmael AND Ahab. Quiet radioing in that "the patient in the next bed saw my face" before she tries to kill Venom. To top it all off, Ishmael flat out says "You're talking to yourself" when Venom asks who he is.
Wait explain that last part? The clues? What do you mean Ishmael AND ahab?
@@derrickrose5933 Codenames were used to protect Big Boss and Venom while they recovered from the helicopter crash. Big Boss was called Ishmael and Venom was called Ahab.
even further evidence is when in phantom pain intro, if you let "ishmael" get shot, it creates a time paradox
Oh no, Not me. I never lost control. You're face to face with the man who sold the world.
Not all ppl are nerds
Another thing: Snake doesn't "get to live" he only finds out that he doesn't have to kill himself to keep the world safe from FoxDie, but it's still possibly killing him. He's told he "should" live, as in he should live as long as he can and not worry about when FoxDie will kill him as no one has a timeline for the virus.
Plot twist: he still have the virus and Big Boss lied
It's not the virus that is killing him, its his natural lifespan. He was expected to die in 2015 due to old age. His aging was catching up badly.
@@TheRenegadeMage yeh foxdie became inert when the modified foxdie messed with it , its the clone lifespan thats killing him , being told he should live his life big boss ment enjoy the time you have left
He's not infected with foxdie anymore, it's his accelerated aging that's killing him. He's just getting old.
so, he does get to live.
I’m still confused, I thought there was only one snake before I watched this but now I have a brain tumour
Yea, Naked Snake, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, Venom Snake..
Venom snake's snake must be hella solid after seeing Quiet
@@nguyenquangduy9292
The Diamond Dong went Solid, and the stiff morale increased.
@@butterdog29 Raiden...
@@gabrielbatista4977 correct, raiden was codenamed Snake in mgs2.
I've played these games enough times that I actually understand everything
I'm proud of myself lmao
Same lmao
Same here too. Been playing this franchise since day one release on PS1. Absolutely love it and know the whole story like the back of my hand ✋. Wait... what's that???
Here take a cookie! ♥
@@KasumiRINA oooo cookie!
Same here. I dug too deep into the lore now
I love how David Hayter took his time to take additional part in the making of this video, an iconic VA in the history of gaming
“Why are we still here? Just to suffer?... Some nights I can still feel my brain cells”
Getting absolutely nuked to death
*"Yep. All seven of 'em"*
*-Rango*
*"all the cells I have lost"*
THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
@@husaynganie9346 Indeed
All this time I thought the different Snakes were just names given to “Big Boss” during different periods of his lifetime...
literally
Lol
Good lord I'm happy I'm not alone
Even a kid i knew their were clones, my dad always told me the story is pretty weird "4 wasnt even out yet"
Welcome to the party. We have more Snakes than you imagined.
Naked Snake, Venom Snake, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake and Solidus Snake. And guess what. One of these Snakes is YOU.
this is 40 minutes long but it still feels like its going too fast D:
yet it only talks about the most superficial events without touching the story's themes, character motivations, etc (I assume for brevity). For the real in-depth rabbit hole of hours-upon-hours analysis check out Futurasound Productions yt channel. It's kind of insane the amount of story that this 30+ years old series has to offer.
Change speed
I feel like understanding how the metal gear timeline works is more impressive than having a PHD
It was so good hearing David Hayter as snake one more time. Thanks, Leaderboard.
Why didn't they keep him for MGS:V?
@@TheTyphoon365 Venom Snake wouldn't have been played by Hayter
@@TheTyphoon365 The somewhat over the top voice of Hayder went against Koijima's vision for MGS5, so he went with a more subdued Snake voice actor
the reality is Kojima has always had a boner for hollywood, as seen by the fact he's tried to replace hayter with a hollywood actor prior to mgsv (he wanted kurt russel in mgs3)
so he got kiefer, finally
@@TheTyphoon365 Because you don't really play as big boss. You play one of his cohorts that was made to think he is Snake.
As a person who knows pretty much nothing about the franchise and wanted to get the summary I understood about 15% of all of this
kseromore yeah its so confusing
If it's any consolation, some people don't also get everything even after playing the games. Your best bet is to Google the full timeline and then have another tab open for the Metal Gear wiki (gotta look up all the terms!)
Msf, caz , paz, big boss, lil boss ..boss boss TF I'm lost lol
Same man. Same.
@@newhire4915 lol solid snake, venom snake, big boss, big boobs...
23:35 Damn, Solid Snake destroyed my beloved Diamond Dogs and kill all fultoned comrades. All my work blown away.
Wait, when I play Metal Gear 1 I kill myself and all of my man... Damn... Kojima... That is real Phantom Pain.
I'm swearing off comment sections from now on. That didn't click in my head until I saw your comment and rewatched. And I JUST reached the end of mgs5 again... broke my heart
Lol
There's also a chance where every original DD soldier died or retired before the Outer Heaven incident. Ship of Theseus and all that. I thought about that too (just finished replaying MGSV last week). Hopefully that is the case.
Wait so does that mean venom snake is dead I’m confused
Charton Lowney yes he is sadly :(
My first MGS was msg4 and It instantly became my favorite game but I understood nothing about the story. Then msg5 came out years later and I still understood nothing so this video helped a lot. I finally understand everything about story and I’ve got to say that it’s a roller coaster. A good one though. 10/10 franchise
I swear writing a story where the events almost never take place chronologically must be so difficult to make any sort of sense at all.
Yes and no. At the start it was a blank slate, so it was quite easy for Kojima to develop it further. He is always compromising on his big visions as well, so he likely has more that he wished to do than the budget allowed, supposedly his dream for the first game itself was something far beyond the capabilities of the hardware, something even bigger than MGSV. That means he knew more or less what he wanted to write and he had time to do refine it.
The issue is that once he started filling all the timeline, he had to keep in mind previous decisions he might not remember or even made counciously. And as he wrote more, the less leeway he had with the characters shown previously. If anything, that is why there are so many characters and they are all confusing, he had to repurpose characters and introduce new ones without overshadowing the previous ones nor being forgetable themselves.
that's why nanomachines are a thing... the real jolly of Metal Gear storytelling.
There's plenty of ways to retroactively include past plots into future ones. Like I bet until the concept of MGS3 started being developed, Big Boss was probably named that simply because he was the final boss of Metal Gear. There was no Venom Snake when MG1 was released. That conveniently allowed for a backstory on how he got that name to be created in MGS3, and for Venom Snake to later be slotted into that role in the first game.
@@yosyp5905 "Nanomachines, son!"
Legit spent the whole video thinking "yo this dude does a great solid snake impression, i wonder who it is"
The man himself apparently 😂
Lol
Lmao
Love hayter for still being able to voice this iconic character even after all that went down. Classy man
I agree. Is there a man out there classier than David Hayter? I think not. But Yuri Lowenthal may come close. He also showed up on a random youtuber's video, cameoing and recommending that person's channel. You know how they say "never meet your heroes"? Well, I think there's always a few exceptions to pretty much any rule, and those are 2 amazingly astounding examples. Thank God for the Metal Gear Series. It's so insane, but it's amazing and like David Hayter said here, it's also a series that's near and dear to my heart. I wouldn't want to live in a world without MGS, or without Solid Snake, or without David Hayter.
Ocelot: *attaches liquid’s arm*
Also ocelot: aight, time to do a little trolling
Metal gear in summary: "You see, actually..."
I love how solid snake just takes out venom and naked snake like it’s nothing
@MR FREEZE-98 It's like Otacon's 8 bit dream.
Big Boss was around his 60s by then
Even with current consoles, it won't do those battles justice. Needs to be made in anime or at a least a movie.
True, but big boss is easily the most badass snake of all of them.
Not to say the others are not awesome, but my favourite is easily big boss.
@@arthurbo3847 not to say the most morally right one tho.
Kept us waiting huh?
420 likes. You’re pretty good
Metal Gear is such a cool univers. I hope that, in the future it gets the love it deserves. I'd pay alot of money for a whole saga of remastered Metal Gear games.
This aged well
1: Metal gear solid 3
2: Peace Walker
3: Ground Zeroes
4: The Phantom Pain
5: Metal Gear
6: Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake
7: Metal Gear Solid
8: Metal Gear Solid 2
9: Metal Gear Solid 4
And then Revengeance if we count non-Kojimas
Mg3 was a solid snake VRmission
@@asonofabitchface where did you hear that... aah is for the Time paradox, no that is a easter egg
I think MGS4 Should be rated higher, and MGRR should be added to the list
@@michaelgonzales7179 What?? This isn't a ranking this is the chronology of the series
So u played as a body double the whole time in phantom pain?
yea, Big Boss' Phantom
@@sybbilvenatores6392 venom snake
Yeah you play as the Medic from Ground Zeros. He underwent intensive psychological manipulation making him think he was Big Boss as well as plastic surgery to make him look like him. The guy in the hospital bed next to him with his face all bandaged up is the real Big Boss
@@jpf7942 my head
@@jpf7942 and that bandaged guy real big boss died when they had been chased. Im I right?
David Hayter is the man. I missed him in MGSV.
Everybody did. It’s one thing we will never forgive Kojima for.
Sutherland was a good substitute. But that's all he was. A substitute for the superior snake va
@@Mojo1356once you played the game how can you continue to be mad? You’re not OG Big Boss nor Solid. You’re venom snake, a medic that was on the same helicopter that exploded during Ground Zeros.
Of course he’d have a different voice actor. He was an entirely different person.
@@Woyaboy explain the Japanese version that didn’t change voice actors then. Face it. Kojima replaced Hayner solely because he wanted a Hollywood actor. Your point is completely moot.
@Mojo1356 The hell it is. And FYI, Kojima has been looking to replace Hayter as Snake since MGS3. Personally, Hayter should have stayed Solid Snake and not Naked Snake. Naked Snake should have been voiced by another voice actor.
The friendship between otacon and snake and even how it was foreshadowed by their "parents" was something I loved. Up until meeting otacon, I felt snake was cold and detached as expected from being an instrument of war. Otacon was the humanizing element for him. And otacon got the resilience he needed from snake. Watching them work together through the series was something I truly admired and looked forward to. I wish we could see more of their work as Philanthropy.
Despite the fact that Peace walker introduces Huey and BB as stand ins for Snake and Otacon, i choose to believe this is a gene vs meme type situation and that Strangelove and Boss are also parents to them, memetically. Strangelove's final wish was for Hal to inherit Boss' will, after all, the will described as "let the world be", and thats the motto of Philanthropy. Snake and Otacon, despite never meeting either Strangelove or Boss, realized their memes, rising above their own cursed genes.
Its so stupid and poetic and I want to inject it into my veins
I'm you and you are me. Carry that with you wherever you go. Thank you my friend. From here on out, YOU'RE BIG BOSS.
John out.
The only me is me. Are you sure the only you is you?
-weird meat bag in PT
The old games needs to be remade with new graphics and gameplay. I would love playing the whole timeline again for nostalgia
i feel like the clunky gameplay of the earlier titles is part of the fun though. mgs1/twin snakes especially. never gonna happen anyway since konami just makes metal gear pachinko machines for japanese gambling dens and nothing else.
@@LadZeroUltra it's not clunky. It's just ahead of it's time
They don't even need to be remade. Just easily available on modern platforms and working properly.
Well there was a project that was working on remaking the original 2 Metal Gear games that would see the stories altered to fit the revised timeline but it got shutdown
I just replayed the old games, and honestly, I'd hate if they had new gameplay in them.
It'd make the games feel like mgs4, and honestly that was the game that played like an action game more than a stealth game.
The old controls always made me feel like I had to carefully plan every step as I move.
After all this, Raiden got the spotlight back again in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, which is quite unique of it being the AFTERMATH to Guns of the Patriots. The game even hints off the various things OF MGS from what Raiden can remember as Easter Eggs and Secrets.
An good example is whem sam cut his arm off he says "Not again!"
David hayter is so cool for doing this
DarshUK yeah he's really great in person.
Pretty sure he didn’t do this for free
So good, brings a tear to my eye to hear David (Solid) again.
At the end of metal gear 5 phantom pain , if you watch the whole credits it actually gives you the whole story time.
DaFuQ?
this sounds like a big Jebait
That is nice info you got there. Can you back it wwith a source?
This is actually true. When you beat the Big Dinosaur Robot and kill skull face and finish the last mission, the credits starts rolling in and after that it explains the different Timelines and how we got to MGSV.
the Japanese VA for big boss and solid in mgs sop were actual estranged father and son and actually reconnected in that heartfelt scene in the grave yard
Sooooo all the charters we see in mgsv gets killed by big bosses clone omg my head
If you listened to Huey's cassette tapes in MGSV he actually talks about cloning and dr.clark and how great it would be if they somehow they didn't let his generics go to waste LMAO
Venom/Phantom Snake isnt a clone, hes a body double.
@@Lord_Dranek yeah hes snakes most loyal medic/soldier that saves snake from the helicopter. so hes venom snake and Ishmael is the actual snake. just adding to what you said
@@commandergull8188 so that ishmael guy who’s been watching GZ medic for 9 years is actually the real big boss, then where’s Big Boss clone if the medic is not the clone? (Still confused with this timeline.)
@@myr7663 basically they made the GZ medic to be big boss they brainwashed him into thinking he was the real big boss until the actual big boss could fully recover. thats why if you kill ishmael you cause a time paradox. so the GZ medic is basically a "clone" of big boss since he now has the abilities and memorys of snake.
How many pepople was Ocelot working for at the same time?
Yes.
All of them
What organisation are the pepople?
You mean, how many people were unknowingly working for Ocelot at the same time?
After the Philosophers, the only one he was truly working for was Big Boss
Metal Gear Solid 3 was one of the most beautiful and complete games I've ever played in my life. Sad that at 14, most games I would then play after would only be a step down lol
OmFG yes man yes, i cannot believe it either. Snake eater was such an amazing experience i thought games could do nothing but get better. Now its 2020 and here we are lmao.
I locked myself in for a weekend during High School and played the whole game from beginning to end. One of the best games ever indeed.
@@reitairue2073 I was younger than that, so I never understood the game completely. I always wanted more in a video game and I felt like Snake Eater had it all. That game got me into series but I never saw it again until MGS4 came out. It's still confusing af.
@@reitairue2073 games like the witcher 3, God of war 2018, and rdr2 doesnt catch your eye?
@@Darkstormsun9865 none of them have good combo of story and gameplay except god of war.even that game had repetitive bossfights which mgs3 did not
Thank you so much for explaining the history. I've been a huge fan ever since MGS1 on PS1. I will forever cherish this video.
A full metal gear solid "story explained" that makes sense and I actually understand....
Illuminati confirmed
@Kane The Critic _I still don't lol_
Ok, try this one instead: ruclips.net/video/aaLiLRVeaZA/видео.html
Can't think up something clever or even relevant to end your comment with? Wrote yourself into a hole?.. Just use a meme that has absolutely nothing to do with what you're saying and watch them likes roll in making you feel special and important!... even though you aren't and will never be..
@@SPFLDAngler wtf???😂😂😂
Enjoy your life man, it's to short to hate.
Welcome to the Internet btw.
@@SPFLDAngler oh boy, you’re so cool and badass. Seriously, get off you damn high horse and stop acting like a jackass
IT'S ALL NANOMACHINESS
Am I the only one that finds the Big Boss story far more interesting and simple compared to the Solid Snake story?
In one perspective, Big Boss is the protagonist and Solid is a pawn being used in the same way Big Boss was.
In another, Big Boss is a warmonger and Solid is the ultimate hero.
It depends on what angle you're looking at it from.
I certainly relate more to the story of Big Boss, his motivations feel much more human, and much less idealistic than what MGS1 and MGS2 preach, I've yet to tie up the story in game though cause my PC still isn't good enough to emulate MGS4 lmao. But MGS3-MGSV Phantom pain tell a VERY satisfying story. Metal gear Rising had an amazing story too, sad we will never get a sequel now cause Konami sucks nuts.
like anakin over luke, but this seems better told.
@@NachozMan mgsv and mgr stories are garbage, don't lie to yourself
@@gandalf7345 mgr story isn't bad,it just not seem that much like a metal gear story anymore
Blown away at the effort put into this lengthen story on the entire MGS timeline. Massive thank you to David for offering his talents. Nice ending with the real big boss showing up, passing away and giving advice to his clone son. Only part I can't get over is wanting to know what solid snake lived rest of his life and what happened to the world? I guess the break off would be raiden vengeance
noticed hayder has been on a lot of online shows recently. Most notebly did you know gaming where he narrates the videos about metal gear. And here he still nails the role. Last time he voiced snake in a video game was in smash ultimate in 2018 which is damn 4 years.
If you got confused and dont understand the whole story, you are in the right track
Oh good, I was worried
im fine im fine
These histerical quips are hilarious in these comments. How many people did Ocelot work for as a secret agent? Answer: Yes.... hahaha. love your comment.
Hideo Kojima: *finished Metal Gear series*
Gamers: *_YEAH, THIS IS BIG BRAIN TIME_*
Hearing David Hayter as Snake is always a damn treat. That's awesome you got him in on this video man! Great video as well but Snake puts it over the top easily!
I have to say that over the years Metal Gear Solid is the best game series I'd ever seen Lore wise and game wise.
Best videogame franchise of all time, period!
I completely agree; even commented similarly.
Easily
U haven't played Uncharted, AC, The Witcher, Far Cry
@@tihomirkostadinow3901 The story isn't as deep as MGS.
@@tihomirkostadinow3901 ur opinion is invalid as soon as u listed ac.its become a fifa cod like franchise
People that never played these games: "Wow this is long video explaining the timeline"
Those of us that played and beat all these games: "You have no idea, this is only a timeline explained in a very short nutshell."
😂🤣
Wow thanks captain obvious, I really couldn’t understand your comment until you perfectly laid it out
@@Camilhurt Anytime!
I legit had to watch it twice and cried both time's during the ending, god bless you and david for this amazing timeline video! 💙🔥
We couldn’t get Code Name “One-Eyed Snake” one freaking time?
And that person wears a purple helmet?
🤣
Lmao code name snake eye
Maybe if konami didn’t fire kojima maybe the metal gear solid franchise still going and new snake maybe?
How has that joke never been made about Big Boss? He's a one eyed snake!
That was thoroughly enjoyable.
Definitely love the addition of David, Excellent job!!
Wasnt the corpse of big boss actually solidus's body since he was a perfect clone? I think ya may have failed to mention that lol but overall dope video love this series and helps bring back memories of beating all the games!
I thought it was a cloned dead body or something like that?
@@BlackHawkBallistic nah i remember them specifically sayin it was solidus's body otherwise it wouldnt of worked it had to be an exact copy of big boss
Yeah it was Solidus's body
@@Fluffy_Cinnamonroll if i remember, it had Liquid fragment too
Yeah, Big Boss in MGS4 is Solidus' body implanted with Big Boss' conscious via the nanomachines.
Big Boss' original body was that crispy thing on the table they kept alive for decades to extract his conscious from
Really late to the party...But I'll say this ; Nice Video!At first I didn't understand ANYTHING but after watching a few gameplay videos and setting in on the fact that I didn't need to remember EVERY single character and event , it became a lot easier and clearer!
Dear Mr. Leaderboard
I wanna thank U so much for taking the time to explain the whole series in detail. I must have played and beaten games 1-4 7 times and I could never fully understand the whole story until now. Because of U I was able to fully understand in mere minutes what I couldn't in hours of gameplay. Thanks to U I now have a much better concept and grasp if the MGS stories. The thank U and herl up the good work.
If you get confused just watching this video imagine having to create it
this video has several serious mistakes. like the first one. MGS3 snake eater you do NOT play as the real big boss you plat as solid snake. because in the game you are called solid snake. also raiden can be seen wearing his cyborg parts in MGS5 so explain how he is shown in the next game as a human with no robotic parts. These timelines are messed up. Also those BIG BOSS remains he talked about are the ORIGINAL big bosses remains from MGS3 snake eater. Also Metal gear rex is the same metal gear as sahelanthropus from MGS5...
dont believe me> watch gameplays of all the games i mentioned. ive played every single game for hundreds of hours and i can tell you right now. this storyline is violently incorrect.
@@venomexer1880 you do not play as Solid snake in mgs3. You play as naked snake aka big boss. MGS5 and MGS3 are both prequels
@@JDG562 yeah sorry about that i had a little memory issue last year your right. but it still doesnt explain the other plot holes
@@venomexer1880 about the Raiden thing, you can also play as solid snake in MGS5 even though they’re canonically not in the game yet. The characters still call you big boss because they’re just costumes and Easter eggs for fans. Not canonical characters
@@venomexer1880 yeah them using Snake for codenames of all characters gets confusing. And adding the Portable Ops creates more plot holes and inconsistencies. If you want to headcanon some things for everything to make sense: pretend that the games that don't fit are someone retelling a story, or a VR simulation of it, and has mistakes and omissions.
Will feel easier, like in Assassin's Creed, every error is just "a glitch in animus", or in Fate, every variation on events is another branch of the multiverse tree. Or in Gundam, all animated shows are canon even if they directly contradict each other. In MGS you got a skating minigame in 2 and Ape Escape monkey catching part in 3 where Snake laments that Gabe (Syphon Filter) and Sam (Splinter Cell) are busy. It's just fun!
So yeah, it's just games, use the MST3K mantra of "it's just a show" and enjoy without worrying that some things don't line up. Especially in spy series where everything is so confusing even to characters within the story. Just take every retelling of the story (i.e. Twin Snakes vs original MGS cutscenes) as just that, a variation for fun.
This is more easy to understand than Kingdom Hearts
Why
Like y tf donald duck in that shid
F..k that game
Fr
@@Redox_Rajox2628 your in full circle then it crashes down then a sequel. If you watch the anime of Fate Series/Franchise. That's the exact equivalent of Telling a Random dude the timeline story
19:05 was the funniest thing I've heard in a long time! The way David/snake says "why did Meryl marry johnny the diarrhea kid" was FUNNY AS HELL! OMG LOL
"It's just like one of my Japanese animes!"
Didn't realize the number on the radio frequency at first, Nice!
nice
420🚬😎😎😎
Nice
0:23 "Spans almost a full century..."
It DOES span a full century I'm pretty sure. The Philosophers is in 1918 and Metal Gear Rising: Revengence (last game in the timeline which came out in 2013) takes place in 2018
Metal Gear Saga: 1918-2018
MGR is not canon, so no. Almost a century still
@@ShoryYTP Slow it down there buckaroo, they said the same thing about Portable Ops. And only like 5% of that *isn't* canon. And if you ask me it fits perfectly in the timeline, makes perfect sense, and has no reason minus the whole Kojima thing not to be.
@@P.V.3606 nanomachines are gone after MGS4, right? The PMCs and all that? If MGR was canon, it would mean the MGS4's ending was worthless, and everything went back the way it was, like if snake never existed. I personally don't like that, and consider MGR as a spin-off based in an alternate universe
@@ShoryYTP I agree and disagree. Although it is likely going to be forever considered a spin-off, MGS4's ending wasn't a waste. The prime minister even acknowledged "...how far we've come in 4 short years." Although yes, the nanomachines plot point is 100% confusing, I'm still on the fence. It's either a true spin-off, or I could imagine in the future they pull a Portable Ops and say "It's only semi-canon" or "Only a few aspects from the game are truly canon." But I do agree, I'm upset that Raiden's ending was essentially discarded.
ShorY (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ
I think the PMCs were sort of solved during MGR. When Sundowner said “Africa’s getting just a bit too peaceful” it means that he wanted to make it dangerous as to get jobs from African warlords and such.
i still have no idea whats going on
*Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake*
So this is what it takes to get hearted.
I mean I guess?
*Liquiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid*
@Lucas Sherwood Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiqqqqqqqqqqqqqqquuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddddddddd
Not gonna lie, even with me not previously knowing who David Hayter was that outro gave me chills
Finally! A complete good list full with nearly everything. I can show this video so many friends now. Thank you The Leaderboard and David Hayter!
You know what? That Ocelot dude is a solid dude.
The timeline of the MGS series is always the one thing I hope people will ask me about. This vid did clear a few things up still though. Didn’t realise how much I missed David’s voice too.
Gonna have to rewatch this one a couple times
The only franchise that gets more confusing the more you know about it...
Fnaf
@@AstralShot I'll take a guess...
Fnaf is "for now and forever"?
@@roybenari Wikipedia article snippets:
Five Nights at Freddy's (FNaF) is an American media franchise created by Scott Cawthon. The first game of the same name was released on August 8, 2014 and has since gained worldwide popularity.
The main series consists of nine survival horror video games taking place in locations connected to a fictional family pizza restaurant franchise named "Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza", after its mascot, the animatronic bear Freddy Fazbear. In most games, the player assumes the role of a night-time employee, who must utilize tools such as security cameras, lights, doors, and vents to defend themselves against hostile animatronic characters that inhabit the locations. The series' lore is gradually revealed through voice recordings, minigames, and easter eggs featured throughout the games.
The franchise also includes spin-off games and other media, such as a novel trilogy and an anthology series, comprising an all-encompassing fictional universe. The franchise maintains an active fanbase, known for its production of fan art and fangames, and merchandise for the games is available internationally
The idea for Five Nights at Freddy's stemmed from negative reaction to Scott Cawthon's previous game, the family-friendly Chipper & Sons Lumber Co. Players said that the main character (a young beaver) looked like "a scary animatronic animal", and reviewer Jim Sterling called the game "unintentionally terrifying".[1][2] Initially discouraged by the criticism, Cawthon (who had previously primarily developed Christian-oriented games) eventually used the feedback to make something intentionally scarier.[1]
Five Nights at Freddy's was released via Desura on August 8, 2014. On August 20, after it was approved by the service's crowdsourcing platform Greenlight, Five Nights at Freddy's was also released on Steam.[3] When the game was picked up by well-known RUclipsrs it became an internet sensation.[4]: 82
The sequels were released on November 10, 2014, March 2, 2015, July 23, 2015, October 7, 2016, December 4, 2017, June 27, 2018, May 28, 2019, November 25, 2019, and December 16, 2021, respectively. A spin-off from the series, FNaF World, was announced in a Steam post by Cawthon in September 2015,[5] and was released in January 2016. Cawthon releases teasers for his games on his website,[6][7] and trailers on his RUclips channel.
He used Clickteam Fusion 2.5 to create the Five Nights at Freddy's games and Autodesk 3ds Max to model and render the games' 3D graphics.[8] To enhance Sister Location, Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator, Ultimate Custom Night, Help Wanted, and Special Delivery, Cawthon used professional voice actors and original soundtracks.[9] In May 2016, he announced that all titles would be remade by third-party companies for release on consoles.[10]
Cawthon posted on his website in 2015 that he planned to publish his first novel (The Silver Eyes) in the near future, with its stories separate from that of the games.[11] Cawthon also announced that it would be co-written by author Kira Breed-Wrisley. On June 20, 2016, Scholastic announced that it would collaborate with Cawthon on a multi-book deal.[12] The Silver Eyes was released on December 17, 2015 on Amazon Kindle,[13] and the paperback version was published on September 27, 2016, slightly earlier than its originally planned October publication date.[14] A second novel, The Twisted Ones, was published on June 27, 2017,[15] followed by The Fourth Closet on June 26, 2018.[16]
@@roybenari it's infamous for how the story is almost always remade and changed and never seems to end despite having the "final entry" multiple times.
@@AstralShot cool
I LOVE that David Hayter did the intro for you, what a guy!
MGS3: Snake Eater stands above them all... I can play that game today over and over and over... that story... *whew*
I agree. Especially the emotional part. I cry every freakin time!
I can't, the only copy I had was for PS2 and the game started freezing.
Alll the environmental issues in the game really make it the best
I slightly preferred MGS4, but yeah, Snake Eater is incredible.
MGS 4 has waaaaay more emotional moments as every thread is firmly tied up, plus you can never beat that ending with the series’ 2 protagonists having one last chat...”this is good, isn’t it?”
Kojima was a writer on Portable Ops. It is key to Big Boss who recruits his first soldier Johnny who sacrifices himself at the end. He also teams up with Roy Campbell and Null A.K.A. Frank Jaeger/Gray Fox and brings him back to America. Elisa literally tells Snake about one son bringing the world to ruin while one will try to save it. Ocelot kills the director of the C.I.A. Yeah it has Zero, Sigint, Para-Medic, Ocelot, Gene etc. playable but the story is cannon.
Yes^^^^
Portable Ops was oddly my first metal gear game. You opened up the gates of nostalgia my friend
Wow dude. Great work here. I'm gonna have to watch that again to take it all in. MGS has to be one of the best story lines of all time.
I genuinely thought you just had a guy that did DH's voice really well. I didn't know it was him. That was super cool!
I want a cohesive, definitive remake of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 together to bridge Phantom Pain to Metal Gear Solid.
Especially since these days they're barely playable. Story could be improved significantly too.
The Iconic Voice of David Hayter, is just as Important to the Metal Gear Series, as much as Kevin Conroy as Batman. VITAL!!!
Absolutely.
probs the best video ive watched on youtube about metal gear!
The fact you called it a gundam, I instantly subscribed. Gunpla is a huge part of my life.
Even though this spoiled MGSV for me, THIS VIDEO IS A GODSEND. I understand it all so much better now.
Kolli Sri phani tejaswi 2 weeks still probably wasn’t enough 😂
“YOU SEE, IT TURNS OUT...... EEYORE”
Ah, I see you're a man of culture.
Makes sense to me
Dunkey