Installing a Lean-to Roof on an existing Deck
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In this video i bring you along as we attempt to frame a roof on my parents deck. Thanks for watching! #Deck #DIY #leanto
Here is a link to the Q and A video for people that had questions about how we did some of the work. Thanks and hopefully this helps!
• Deck Lean-to Q and A
Blessings Travis,
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For people that had questions about how did some of the work i linked to a Q and A video in the description. Thanks for supporting the channel!
Hey man for anyone that didn't like this video darn shame for starters dad son time then you tackled something others were dodging and then you get a Heineken which I love but realized it was 0 % which I didn't even know existed lol. These are you folks ideas and anyone wanting to do anything of this sort needs to do all their research for their exact project. Blessings to you and your family keep up the good work.
That is what I need to know. From start as far as removing old post to replace new.
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I never saw your comment on the channel geekznwheelz. Thanks so much for understanding what the channel is all about. As for the beer I gave up alcohol 2 years ago is the reason I had a zero haha. Thanks for the comment and support! Take care my friend!
@@homebuilt8694I'm going to do this exact same thing to a deck that's on the back of a house. It needs a roof and enclosed a great video you made there
Hope handrail never needs replaced. And attaching structure to facia..... oh my!
Glad you liked the video, Take care!
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Thanks!
This is great to see with many excellent build aspects - however the tie-in to the main house being attached to the outer edge of the roof overhang will not meet code in our area. Would make most folks concerned that the roof will not withstand load of heavy snow or basically be strong enough to last without leaks and separation occurring. Just something to consider. Otherwise - appreciate your effort. Your mom is going to love!
My first thought exactly. Installing joist hangers to the facia will not carry the load of that roof.
Thanks for sharing your concerns and checking out the channel we really appreciate it. If it makes you feel better I had the architect of the house check out the video and he said with the climate zone we live in this build should be plenty adequate. I know there are a lot of folks that don’t like how we built it and that’s ok. Thanks for checking out the channel!
This is exactly what I have been wanting to do to 3/4s of my deck. It would have been nice to have seen this from the start of construction though. I wasn't going to go all of the ways to the rail, but after seeing how you tied in the existing rail, I'll do the same thing. It will be screened in with a layer of wire fencing on the inside. I will be sharing it with the cats, so reinforcing the walls with fencing will keep predators out and cats in.
Exactly! The key to doing this is how you establish contact with the existing structure. all the video with his rock music and a guy operating a cordless song was useless to learning how to do this
Sorry if the video was not helpful. I more set up the camera to share what we were doing more so than a how to video. When I had decided to film we were already in the middle of the project.
Put in new posts all the way to ground support.
I’ve never seen a more southern thing in a RUclips video, a beer break! I love it!
If you pause the video its actually a heineken 0.0 haha. But glad you liked it! Thanks for checking out the channel!
I agree the beer break definitely reminded me of our family projects. Love it
I for 1 appreciate you making this video. I'm about to build my deck and add a covered patio cover over the deck coming off the house. Like you said, there isn't many videos showing what you're trying to accomplish. Lots of videos, but hard to find ones that answer all your questions and concerns you have. Watching your video and reading the comments answered a lot of mine and gave me a few ideas. Think i'm going to remove the facia and attach a ledger to the rafter ends too. Like you, I understand the whole code problem. I'm not worried about that. I trust my work and if i'm ever in doubt I tend to go a little over kill for pc of mind. Taking your idea and some ideas from the comments like screwing or use some lag bolts and maybe some hangers to attach the ledger to my rafter ends. It might not be code but I will trust the end product when i'm done.
I wanted to see the technical side of doing this job as Im starting to do one myself, But after watching the video I thought Oh boy I want to be like the big boy out there "your Dad" he's still on full throttle ! Good job ,good video I got what i wanted. Thanks
😂 Thanks for the comment and checking out the channel, Dad is a hard worker. Take care
I would be careful using this technique in snow zones. You seem to be adding thebtoof to the eave of the existing roof instead of placing the weight of the new roof onto the stronger exterior wall
Exactly I'm sure they had found companies that would do it but the companies were going to tie into the roof the correct way.. now I'm noticing that he's cut his bird mouth out with about a 10-in flat..😂🤣
I would have opened up boxing and secured my rafters to the house! Or as you said to do. Rafters to facia is a big NO!
Exactly…
He does comment on checking behind the cladding to be certain the structure is tied to structure but definitely something that could be missed by those that don’t know better.
It’s a bit more work but so much better to remove the fascia and soffit to connect at the wall and sister to the rafter tails.
@@johnlee7085 so ur saying to remove the fascia board and put a 2x6 there then install your rafters trying to do the same thing but I wanted to hold up
Amazing! You two are handsome, skilled, efficient workmen.
Youre right, theres very little on youtube to watch, i was hoping to see this from the beginning. Ill keep looking.
Thanks for the comment and yes I started to film the job when I was a little deep into the process , didn’t realize so many people were looking for the same video we were. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
@@homebuilt8694 I would have loved to see you attached the posts to the existing bottom post ….did you just lay 2x6 over the bottom posts and attaché the new ones from the top?
Nice and sturdy for downward loads but when the wind blows you will have uplift on the roof at 15 psf. Those columns just sitting on top of the railing will provide no uplift resistance. Suggest strapping the old and new columns together.
Seen all I need looks good Bro you're a good man and a good son to your folks 👍
Thanks so much for the kind words and taking the time to leave a comment. Hope to hear from you on future videos. God Bless
Fab video! thanks for putting this together and sharing and as others have said you guys created memories in the process I am sure you will cherish for the rest of your lives.
Thank for the kind words, Glad the video helped and thanks for checking out the channel and leaving a comment! Hope to see you on future videos! Take care!
Y'all did a very fine job with this project. My porch looks similar to the one y'all have and literally I had the same idea. Until I stumbled upon your video and it changed some specs of what I've had in mind but it looks sick!💯
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for checking out the channel
You guys were very lucky that 2x6 was behind the gutters. That saved a lot of effort.
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Got a lot of good ideas from this video! Thank you! My big problem is, out here in N.C we have vinyl siding, I have to remove it and put some ledger boards attached to my second floor beam, and I need to waterproof it then attached vinyl siding to the parts left without.... the rest is easier.
It's really easy with vinyl siding. Take it off one row above and below, attach your ledger, put some Z flashing over the ledger on the top edge, run your siding back on, obviously removing the section for the ledger. Run J channel around all 4 sides of the ledger, plus that small undersil with a crimp on the cut edge of the siding that goes up into the bottom edge of the ledger.
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Just saw one of these rip out. Screws and nails rusted out slightly splitting once drying occurred. It was metal to, so it was lighter. Just make sure you inspect your connections throughout the years. Know where you're walking if you have to get up there.
nobody wants to give a quote or go to work..shame. you did good here!!
Or there’s so much work they don’t want to mess with this situation.
I agree, I had several comments with people saying we probably had people that would come we just didn’t want to pay them to build it right or however they thought was right but they seriously could not get a call back. Thanks for checking out the video and sharing!
The intro music sounds like Cactus. Helpful vid....thanks for sharing!
Glad the video helped and thanks for checking out the channel! Hope to see you on future videos!
Looks exactly like my setup. We turned ours into a screened-in porch with a galvanized tin roof. 👍
Thanks for the comment! My parents are loving it!
Nice father and son project.
Thanks I feel privileged to spend time working with my Dad
Love negative comments! Jus keep doing you & be safe! Looks like some good work to me!😅 2x6’s should be gd enuff & post 6x6’s!
Thanks! Will do!
I completely agree no rustic awning to how to build 1 for my cottage
Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. Take care and good luck.
I love your videos how u guys make different kind of stuff in houses
Thanks . We are glad that you enjoy the videos!
Thank you for showing us the process! 🙏🏼 I want to try redoing our sunroof. Not sure if I could, I don’t have any experience, but I want to try. ❤️
Good luck and thanks for checking out the channel!
Beautiful work gentlemen! Thank you for sharing and, I am looking forward to watching the final product!
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I’ve always wondered about doing a lean-to this way, but notching the existing fascia board and using 36” straps to tie the lean-to rafters to the addict rafters for added strength.
We get next to zero snow in my part of the country as well, so snow load isn’t a thing.
You have addict rafters that sucks must get expensive
Thanks for taking the time to check out the channel and leave a comment. I agree Snow was not a concern of ours and people have gotten so butt hurt about how we built it. Everyone thinks we half assed the job but we built it the way they wanted it on purpose and tried to work with what we had. In a perfect world they said they would have tried to work in a covering during the build. Thanks and take care!
Glad You & Dad Made this video but I was so into it when y’all were at the point of adding roof, then y’all went off. 😭 I gonna search for finishing. Greatest!!! 😃
Thanks for checking out the video glad you liked it. I agree the video would have probably been better to atleast show is wrapping it up. Im still pretty new in creating content. I appreciate the feedback. Something I want to work on in the future is taking alittle more time in completing the videos even if it takes multiple days of shooting. Thanks again for taking the time to leave me a comment. Take care my friend.
You are Welcome 🙏
Wish you had started in the beginning from regular deck to the finish product. This is what we need to do. How much did it cost? What is the size
Denise -Don’t trust any comment on costs that aren’t local. Even in post-CV world, material costs are all over the place. I’m replacing a deck cover and have seen material prices go up/down/up 100% in a matter of weeks. It’s now complicated by shipping/fuel prices.
At the time we built it I think we had right at 2000$ in material. Hope this helps. Thanks for leaving a comment and checking out the channel!
It’s awesome I want to do the same thing to my front porch
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I thought about doing this to my mom's house. The front porch has a nice A roof with the same trusses as the rest of the house. The rear would have to be a lean to. But my biggest concern is attaching those big posts, since her house is at the beach. It would have to be able to withstand typical hurricane winds. I just can't believe my stepfather didn't have them do it when they built the house, so that the poles would have been solid, not pieced together. Another concern is that I doubt I could even come close to matching the galvanized roof metel. But it would really only be noticeable from the air and not from the ground since it is on the second story and the pitch would be pretty flat. I'm still tempted to try it. If it wasn't on the second floor, I would probably have already attempted it. I'm not afraid of the fall from the second story roof. I'm just scared of the sudden stop.
I see a lot of people doing same thing. the problem is it does not pass inspection where I live 🥴
I understand, thanks for sharing and checking out the video
As a former Master Code Official and carpenter, you failed frame inspection, fascia boards are not load baring no matter the size.
Should he have removed the fascia and placed the new rafters on the existing wall and nailed the existing and the new rafters together? Not a carpenter, just a Plumber!
Good to know, thanks for the info and checking out the channel!
Very Nice and well planned out! However, the facia is not a sustainable mounting point! The house is the house, the deck is the deck! Unify them with some connectors and weatherproof them with some flashing!
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The deck really worked
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unless I'm mistaken, the beam structure you used - two unconnected beams on both sides of a post - is explicitly forbidden in the code. Now, I'm sure it'll hold on just fine, but it'll fail inspection (just as I did, which is why I know). If a double beam is used, the planks need to be sistered.
Or what am I missing?
He used a technique that’s used on pole barns and decks for the beams. From my understanding, this method is the preferred method now. It does require 4x6 posts at a minimum, he uses a 6x6 post. Another concern I would have however, are the footings?? Can they support the added load?
@@psalm23sheepdog interesting. My inspector - for a deck - said, literally "single anything is not a beam". Assuming non-engineered materials. Only beams he would accept would be double-2x6 and up, and they had to be sistered. Which means they cannot have air between them, as they do here.
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Of course the codes vary from state to state, but using your inspectors guidelines for a beam, it’s still my understanding that using carriage bolts as connectors are forbidden now. Instead, even with doubled up planks sistered together, they want the post to be notched to accept the beam to rest on. I recently disassembled my old deck of 30 years. The carriage bolts were highly corroded and only half the thickness of its original diameter. That was the known method of that time.
@@psalm23sheepdog " they want the post to be notched to accept the beam to rest on" - that's my understanding as well.
Sorry for the delayed response, trying to get to older comments. Thank you all for commenting and checking out the channel. We did not have it inspected so if this is a concern of yours you may want to check your building codes. Thanks for the support! No pun intended😂
I don’t usually like intro music, but yours sounds good, peace
Thanks! Glad you liked the video!
You are an awesome son!
Thank you! Glad you liked the video. I’m pretty lucky to have some great parents!
you cannot attach rafters to facia board
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Great video and looks like great work! Wish you had some footage of installing the handrails 6x6 and “dowels”. About how much do you think the project cost?
Carly Barto the metal was right at 500$ and the wood and hanger material was 1000$
Carly Barto Thanks for checking out the the channel and glad you liked the video.
While everybody else is ragging like on every DIY project, 🙄... I'm here to ask a dumb question. Lol How did you figure out that angle for the template board at the very beginning?
Great video and nice work. Did you add any additional support to the deck so it can handle the added weight?
I doubt it
Not sure if your asking about the roof line at the house or underneath of the deck. The post we extended off of go al the way to the ground and set on individual footings. We did not do anything else where the roof meets the house. Like some people have said and so would I. If heavy snow is a concern of yours this is probably not the route you want to go with attaching to the house
I want to see how those 6x6 are secured onto the existing deck as thats my biggest challenge
attaching to fascia (even if it is a 2x6) is a HUGE nono . it will of course last a little while as most things will . but hey , it's your parents , not mine !
I appreciate your concern. I never really understood why people go out of there way to leave snarky comments though.
Really helpful bud thanks
No problem. Thanks for checking out the channel and glad the video helped.
Wait , so your joist hangers are just attached to the eaves? Is that structural enough?
needed this. thank you.
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When it comes time to replace the handrail....... How would you do that with the 6x6 sitting directly on top of it?
Your frame job look good but I would’ve never said that on the top of that handrail I would’ve took the handrails down and went all the way to the bottom of the deck and replace the handrails later but other than that Your framework looks sound
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Who doesn’t like working with their dad!
Trusting the fascia alot
What can I say we are trusting people.
Very useful vid. Thank you
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Great video! Thanks much!
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Quick question. I’m building a lean to behind my shed. I’m moving our chicken run and coop back there. My roof is basically 10’x10’. I got 2x4’s for the rafters. Are 2x4’s going to be okay instead of 2x6’s? The actual measurement from the high side to low side is actually less than 10’ and slightly more than 9’. The width will span 10’ though
Not sure exactly, there are several sites online that you can go to and calculate the load. Thats what I did for our roof. Hope this helps!
Nice job 👍
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I definitely would have not set the 4x4s on the top of the rail like that even though its over top an existing 4x4 doesnt mean it can carry that extra load from the roof. I would have cut out the railings and set new 4x4s to a footer. Just saying its going to be more architectural & more load bearing.
Excuse me 6x6s.
The post go below the deck to the ground about 14 ft down and set on their own individual footings. Thanks for checking out the video
How did you determine the angle of the roof Joist that lays against the front runner? Awesome job though 👍🏽
we went for a 1 foot drop pitch for the roof which dictated the angle of the rafters. As for how to find your cut angle you will need to use your speed square or trial and error until you get your first rafter how you want the entire roof and use that first rafter as a template.
I like the design of it. Is it okay to not use pressure treated boards for the rafters?
We only used untreated on all the inner rafters to cut down on weight and expense. The entire outer band is treated. All the untreated lumber is covered and out of exposure to the elements. No different than the rafters in your attic.
@@homebuilt8694 I'll plan to do the same. Good info. I also liked using the dowel to extend the posts up.
how did you work out the height of beams for rafters to sit on? great vid with great build. from new zealand
We started with the height of the soffit and determined what amount of pitch we wanted on the roof/ how much headroom we wanted for clearance. The end result was about 1ft of fall for 12 feet. Hope this helps and thanks for commenting and checking out the channel
Nice job.......
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So did what did you guys do with the Eavestroughing? My eaves only drains at one end and i was thinking about doing this
Not sure what you mean exactly. We removed the gutter section, capped the section still on the house. reinstalled and down spouted the new section off the lean to.
@homebuilt8694 that's exactly what I was asking for thanks.
What pitch did you use? And how big is the patio. I have a 10x27 I plan on doing the same thing in a few weeks.
The pitch was just over 1 ft of fall in 12 ft. So about an inch of fall per foot.
Shingle rolls will be better in the roof for but first watersheds
Did you attach the awning rafters to the house fascia board!?
Yeah but I discuss inspecting it structurally before we did so.
I have been thinking of doing something similar. I like the idea of attaching to the eaves of the house. Can you tell me the height at the eaves and the height at the opposite end of the rafters?
Steve - Notice that he makes subtle but crucially important comment on checking the structure behind the surface to be sure he’s connecting structure to structure. The Fascia is generally not a structural member so not something to connect to. It would be extra work but might be necessary to extend the deck rafters under the eave in order to connect at the wall structure and/or sister to the rafter tails. I just got done doing that on our deck roof.
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Did you add extra support under the deck to support weight?
As of right now we have never added any additional supports and the covering is still working great! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! Take care!
How do you figure out how much to notch the joist
So if you can use a speed square and figure the angle. The general idea is what ever degree slope you are using , you use the speed square and degrees of slope to cut the angle on the end of the rafter and should match the bird mouth or notch. We had to trial and error a few to get the notch just right. The scrap block you saw us using we cut as an easy transfer template. Also we marked every joist to length for the notch because the facia board moved in and out a little. Thanks for checking out the video.
How did you attach the beams that hold up the roof to the porch?
Nice video! I was wondering how you fastened the new posts on top of the cap rails? Thanks
Thanks for the comment and checking out the channel! I have a video where I discuss in more detail how we attached everything. It you click on channel videos it should be under Deck Q and A. Thanks again!
what kind of screws did you use on the fascia? did you reinforce it to hold weight or tried to attach the existing rafters?? questions questions..lol
We used long decking screws and yes we tried to position out rafters inline with the roof rafters so when we installed the joist hangers they fastners caught the rafters. We did not reinforce the facia. it was a 2x6. We did what we were comfortable with but you have to make that decision for yourself. We may go back and add a ledger board with gussets back down to brick for added insurance.Hope this helps and thanks for checking out the channel.
Great video....What area is this in?...want to do something smilar but I'm not sure how well it would hold up with snow attaching it to the house the way you did
Agreed we live in a in southern Indiana/Northern Kentucky area. There are many winters we get little to no snow. It does happen from time to time however so if its a major concern you may look at others options. Thanks for checking out the channel and taking time to comment!
What about wind?@@homebuilt8694
I have a question,do you guys in America need plans from your council before erecting a roof from your house outwards
Legally yes. Got land and house out in the country... nahhhh
If you whant to sell later yes if the city approves your project, the price of the house will rise considerably
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and check out the channel! Yes you are supposed to get a building permit in the US so that local officials can tell you what you are and are not allowed to do on your own property. They also charge you money to do so. We did not partake.
how did you attach the posts to the existing posts
WHat is the purpose of this is it supposed to be a mean to pergola for sun protection while not completely block the view and also for aesthetics?
Its covered with metal in the follow up video. Hope this helps. Thanks for checking out the channel.
You installed your joist hangers onto the TRIM of the house? Has this thing collapsed yet?
Nope still going strong.
Do you have a video or pictures of the finished project
I have another video that shows the lean to covered. I may do an updated video on it this spring. Thanks for checking out channel.
Love this.
Thanks for the Comment!
I would like to do something like that in the back of the house it would be nice i love construction
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Thanks, It will help me get started
Thanks we appreciate you checking the channel out.
I’d never build it like this 😂😂😂
Glad you liked the video!
what size beam did you use on that?
Have there been any issues weight-wise with the 2x6?
Rick - You would do well to review the other comments. Lots on this topic with better, code compliant solutions.
No not as of yet. We had one spell of ice the year we built it and Dad went out on the deck and added some temp braces in just to be safe. we also ran a patio heater to aid in the melt off. It was only that one time and for our area it was an unusual amount of ice. Thanks for checking out the video
so thats just screwed to the facia?!
What is the pitch of the roof? What kind of roof did you put on? Thanks
It is a 1x12. We used barn metal roofing. Thanks for the comment!
Looks nice. But I have to wonder how that is up to code. Using the existing deck railings for the front edge of your lean to, seems wrong to me. We have foot plus snow falls here in Michigan, that's an awful lot of weight bearing down. This is not a criticism, I'm genuinely curious about the possible code violation.
Should have put a ledger board only thing done wrong double ledger on ur fascia
Any tricks in finding the trusses without dismantling the whole damn roof? lol
I just removed a small amount of soffit material to check things out, Hope this helps and thanks for checking out the channel!
What is the height of the the front compared to the back?
So if i remember correctly the deck to the drip edge was 104 inchs and we cut the 6x6 and installed the support beam at 92 inchs. we Came out with right at 1 ft of fall over 12 feet. You would probably have to go with more angle if you intended on using shingles. Thanks for checking out the channel.
@@homebuilt8694 Indeed, I believe here in Ontario , Canada, anything below 3/12 roof needs a specific roof covering, not shingles.
There are so many things that I see wouldn't pass un my book. But you do you. I've been at almost 45 years and some of your stuff is questionable
Glad you liked the video! Thanks for sharing!
Smart use of saws all thing for birds mouths.
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Bad, if some client ask me to set up half post on the hand rails i will tell hem looking for some else, i don't like to do bad job, later will come the problems for sure they are my advertising!
Is it that it can't be done, or is there another way of doing it? I came here to see how to do the same thing to my deck but I can't figure out how to set up a half post on the hand rails and make it look good.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and checking out the channel. It’s been 3 years and everything still looks great. Take care
looks pretty good... what is the spacing and span on your rafters.?
A little over 11 feet
Thats to for a span for 2x6.Minimum would be 2x8.they will probably sag after awhile
www.mycarpentry.com/rafter-span-tables.html
Every thing I could find in research showed yellow pine at a 20 lb per 2 sq ft load to be overrated on 24” center. Maybe I am wrong but we built what we felt adequate. All I can say is you have to do what is best for you . Thanks for checking out the channel
Me likey!👍👍👍
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Yikes. The weight of the roof is hanging on the fascia board of the overhang (which is no doubt nailed to the house with plain nails), and the 6x6 posts are resting ON TOP of the handrail and "doweled" to the posts below. So the entire structure is no stronger than the fascia nails and the dowels. The massiveness of the 6x6 posts is completely defeated.
How much
... you can't install trusses to the facia like that.
We built ours that way. Thanks for checking out the channel!
I’m fixing one like this that fell when we re-roofed. The nails in the fascia were not meant to hold up an awning. I would put in some Strong ties or GRK 4-5 in self drilling screws.
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Good Video, good close ups. But the Rock band should take a break, so I can hear what you're doing.
Noted 😂 Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and check out the channel! Take care!
With any snowload that’s falling down and gussets won’t help
Well we had 3 inchs of Ice on it with a couple inchs of snow at the end of our winter season and no issues presented. We did try to use a patio heater to help melt some of the ice off but everything survived. Thanks for the feedback
Good video! however I had to mute the ridiculous and annoying noise in the background.
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