@@Greek.yogurtBoeing was desperately competing with Airbus' neo program with their existing planes so Boeing was gonna do the same at all cost, even ignoring clear indications that that MCAS might not fully be reliable. At the time no one saw the accident involving flight JT610, the Lion air crash coming but after ET302, we got the gist. It wasn't the pilots, it was the plane. The 737max is one aircraft type I fear to hop on. If the DC10s were still in operation it'd be them as close second.
@@vigh0 737 MAX were fixed and the plane is still haulin passengers today. I can confirm that the plane is safe as I myself flown on LOT and WestJet 737 MAX planes
@@Greek.yogurt yeah they started flying since 2022 and if you did have a good experience flying the Max that's great, but I still be having chills from the past. I question my trust in Boeing for so many reasons and the 737Max is one of them
@@vigh0but im sure Ethiopian flight 302 went about 900mph im not sure but i was a-bit close to mach one. And it also stays as the most brutal airline crash in Ethiopian history. I take Ethiopian airways.
Number of deaths: 189 Date: October 29, 2018 Survivors: 0 Destination: Depati Amir Airport; Pangkal Pinang, Indonesia Passengers: 181 Crew: 8 Summary: Loss of control due to runaway trim, inadequate maintenance
On Oct. 29, 2018, Lion Air Flight JT 610 crashed into the Java Sea off the coast of Indonesia. All 189 people aboard the plane, including several children, were killed in the tragedy. Baum Hedlund represents one family who lost their loved one in this crash.
For those Who didn’t know This airplane had a problem, the nose of the airplane would point to high while takeoff so they added software that would push the airplane back into position, but in the mean case that software malfunctioned and why the airplane crashed in the sea
The 737 max was boeings way to keep up with their competitors, airbus. They needed to have bigger engines to maintain the same efficiency as the A320. The 737 was too low to the ground to have a big enough engine under the wing. Boeing came up with a way of raising the engine above the wing, in order to have the bigger engine. The engine at this height meant the aircraft climbed far too steeply. To solve this issue, boeing added a software called MCAS which automatically decreased the climb angle. Unfortunately, pilots weren’t trained for long enough on MCAS and how to operate it, leading to much confusion it the cockpit when the planes were suddenly losing altitude. This system failed twice, once for ethiopian airlines and once for lion air. Both times, the flight crews were extremely confused as to what was and had to battle with their faulty MCAS systems. sadly leading to two fatal crashes. immediately after the second crash, the 737 Max was recalled until pilots were all correctly trained and MCAS had been properly developed. Now, the 737 Max is a commonly used aircraft around the world and hasn’t had another crash since. may everyone who’s lives were lost in these crashes rest in peace. ❤
I can’t imagine the faces of the captain and the co-pilot at the moment the plane was plunging into the sea. What were they thinking? Of course, the passengers wouldn’t have seen that view. They might have passed away without realizing it, as the impact from the front to the back of the plane would have taken less than a second.
Explenation: Likn air was a aircraft who shortly after takeoff had a malfunction in a system made by boeing called mcas and boeing operators never told the Indonesian pilots about this so many people blamed the pilots since they thought they didnt know how to operate a boeing. Later investigators found out that it was the system called mcas and it was made in case there was a nose to high or close to a stall but the system malfunctioned and started pounting the nose down but pilots could fight and eventually killed all passengers on board. R.I.P. ro all people who died.😢
One of the saddest crash in aviation industry!! Actually something went wrong with angle of attack vane with gives input to MCAS, so it activates and think that aircraft is going to stall so they pitch the nose down.. And also pilots were not known about MCAS and they not train for that.. clearly it is the company mistake not the pilots
October 09, 2018. When this flight, as known 610, on a 737 max model, set for take-off, the nose of the plane was out of the safe zone. Since the 737 max had the system to fix that, the pilot attempts to do so. The problem was, the system corrupted and sent flight 610 not to its destination, but to dive into the Java Sea near the coast of Indonesia. All 189 people aboard the flight are feared to be dead and have probably not been found since. May they all rest in peace.
The thing is that boeing made a setting in a 737 max8 that if it rose too high it goes down back to the takeoff direction but on lion air flight 610 when it tried to do that it malfunctioned that causes it to crash into the sea in the coast of Indonesia killing all 189 people on board after that it became the deadliest 737 max8 crash in aviation history.
The Lion Air crash, which killed all 189 people on board, and the Ethiopian Airlines crash less than five months later grounded 737 Max planes around the world and sent Boeing's share price plummeting.
Actually the lion air pilots did not use the switch to stop mcas but it didnt work anyways since the ethiopian 302 pilots pressed the switch and still crashed
Thats who dont know Lion airways Flight 610 Its was from Jakarta When they Takeoff They was to Step when the Captain pull the Yoke up All Passgear crew member Pilots Died no one Survived 👇
the death of the 189 people aboard Lion Air 610 as well as the 157 on board Ethiopian Airlines 302 on March 10, 2019. The installation of larger engines meant the airplane would be unstable in some, rare flight regimes. To counter this without having to apply for a new aircraft type certification or require additional pilot training, Boeing relied on an electronic gizmo called "MCAS" and assumed pilots would treat malfunctions as they would any other pitch trim abnormal. But on these two crashes, that was a bad assumption. So the blame game can be stated thusly: the aircraft manufacturer took a short cut in the design when installing what they considered an automatic and transparent system. Two airline crews were caught and now people are dead. But is that really what happened? Boeing. I think there is a point where the engines are too big for the existing airframe and it is time to start over. I also think giving pitch authority to the MCAS based on a single Angle of Attack sensor is foolhardy. Lion Air. The airline has a reputation for doing everything as cheaply as possible and that includes pilot hiring and pilot training. Filling the front two seats with pilots with so little experience is very dangerous and doing so should make the company culpable in the deaths of those behind those two seats. The pilots. The pilots of Lion Air 610 made a lot of mistakes and could have survived had they simply pulled the throttles back, kept the airplane configured, and returned to land. They could have also survived had they simply placed the pitch trim switches to "cut out" and finished the flight manually trimming their stabilizer. But it is hard to blame pilots who are plucked off the street with very little experience, given minimal training, and are allowed to continue flying even after years of failing checkrides and demonstrating to any objective observer that the Boeing 737 MAX was more airplane than they could handle. It was, simply put, too much airplane. Airline crashes are rare, and rarer still are crashes that force the grounding of an entire fleet. Lion Air 610 was not immediately among them. But about four months later, on March 10, 2019, an equally new 737 Max flown by Ethiopian Airlines went down on departure from Addis Ababa with the loss of everyone aboard, and within a week all further flights of the 737 Max were stopped worldwide. After both accidents, the flight-data recordings indicated that the immediate culprit was a sensor failure tied to a new and obscure control function that was unique to the 737 Max: the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS). The system automatically applies double-speed impulses of nose-down trim, but only under circumstances so narrow that no regular airline pilot will ever experience its activation - unless a sensor fails. Boeing believed the system to be so innocuous, even if it malfunctioned, that the company did not inform pilots of its existence or include a description of it in the airplane’s flight manuals. Source: Langewiesche Even highly experienced pilots may be taken by surprise by a system that "applies double-speed impulses of nose-down trim." In a nutshell, the issue is this: Most pilots assume that when an airplane stalls the nose drops abruptly, which is where the nose needs to go in the event of a stall. But that isn't true of all airplanes, including the 737 MAX. So the double-speed impulse does that and makes the airplane appear to stall like early 737s. Of course an electronic fix to imitate an aerodynamic behavior is subject to malfunction. As we shall see in the case of Lion Air 610.
@@TioGamerzYT My apologies. You're absolutely correct and I am incorrect. Australia Foreign Affairs and Trade banned its staff from flying Lion Air and its subsidies. The airlines was banned from flying anywhere in the European Union, 53 routes were revoked by the transportation ministry. Lion Air attempted to bribe transportation safety officials and crash investigators. The airlines pressured victims families to sign away their right to legal recourse for undercompensation. The victims families got around 3000.00 USD. Maintenance logs disappeared or never existed. But sometime after all this they managed to actually start servicing their aircraft and get their safety rating back.
Ah yes, Boeing 737 Max, the aircraft that rushed to compete with the efficienty on their main competitor aircraft, airbus, that makes the Airbus A320neo, and while on testing the aircraft, the aircraft went too steep, so Boeing put a little software called MCAS, and this is the reason why the JT610 crashed into the java sea, while on the flight, the MCAS malfuncioned, causing the MCAS send the wrong data to Vertical stabilizer, that makes the aircraft went nose dive into the java sea
Lion Air Flight 610 was a scheduled domestic passenger flight from Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, Jakarta, to Depati Amir Airport, Pangkal Pinang, in Indonesia. On 29 October 2018, the Boeing 737 MAX operating the route crashed into the Java Sea 13 minutes after takeoff, killing all 189 passengers pin📌?
The plane crashed becuse the nose was ment to be abit down but they put it abit up and then they put it down it went all down and then they try to put it abit up and then they couldnt and they strugled and then they crasjed
@@santitheguyonly two crashes tho, but there were incidents of the 737max going nose down and up just as similar to those two deadly crashes but they landed safely.
For does who dont know: a 737 max has a system which decreases the climb inches, unfortunately, the system got corrupted and the 737 max crashed.
So called MCAS
@@Greek.yogurtBoeing was desperately competing with Airbus' neo program with their existing planes so Boeing was gonna do the same at all cost, even ignoring clear indications that that MCAS might not fully be reliable. At the time no one saw the accident involving flight JT610, the Lion air crash coming but after ET302, we got the gist. It wasn't the pilots, it was the plane.
The 737max is one aircraft type I fear to hop on. If the DC10s were still in operation it'd be them as close second.
@@vigh0 737 MAX were fixed and the plane is still haulin passengers today. I can confirm that the plane is safe as I myself flown on LOT and WestJet 737 MAX planes
@@Greek.yogurt yeah they started flying since 2022 and if you did have a good experience flying the Max that's great, but I still be having chills from the past. I question my trust in Boeing for so many reasons and the 737Max is one of them
@@vigh0but im sure Ethiopian flight 302 went about 900mph im not sure but i was a-bit close to mach one. And it also stays as the most brutal airline crash in Ethiopian history. I take Ethiopian airways.
Number of deaths: 189
Date: October 29, 2018
Survivors: 0
Destination: Depati Amir Airport; Pangkal Pinang, Indonesia
Passengers: 181
Crew: 8
Summary: Loss of control due to runaway trim, inadequate maintenance
MCAS failure
@@Electric_pawnyes, not because inadequate maintenance
@@CLT_Yudhis_10 ik I have seen a Ethiopian airlines 737 max crash while going to the airport
Thanks for the information, I was about to make an edit until this popped up
And second deadliest crash in Indonesia after Garuda Indonesia GA152
On Oct. 29, 2018, Lion Air Flight JT 610 crashed into the Java Sea off the coast of Indonesia. All 189 people aboard the plane, including several children, were killed in the tragedy. Baum Hedlund represents one family who lost their loved one in this crash.
The pilots were dumb
MCAS= Money Comes After Safety
No it's not
MCAS= Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System
@@ItsIndianBall2234 You know he's just making a joke, right? Boeing apologist, lol
@@keithframe3489 lol
MCAS : Money Comes ABOVE Safety
The horror in the passengers eyes
And the pilote😔
It is very sad because no one survived in that accident R.I.P lion airline❤❤😭
I've flown on the max 8 before that crash, Garuda Indonesia PK-GDA
JESUS CHRIST bro that 737 went to the water at full speed R.I.P to all the passengers and crew members 😢😢
Going at 600mph? But i don’t think thats close to mach one
Yeah it is by 182
LIKE AIR FRANCE 447
@@Boatsandboom incorrect. 447 pancaked.
Bro the people are muslim not Christian Allahu akbar
This is one of the saddest crashes since I'm Indonesian, where it crashed
For those
Who didn’t know This airplane had a problem, the nose of the airplane would point to high while takeoff so they added software that would push the airplane back into position, but in the mean case that software malfunctioned and why the airplane crashed in the sea
The 737 max was boeings way to keep up with their competitors, airbus. They needed to have bigger engines to maintain the same efficiency as the A320. The 737 was too low to the ground to have a big enough engine under the wing. Boeing came up with a way of raising the engine above the wing, in order to have the bigger engine. The engine at this height meant the aircraft climbed far too steeply. To solve this issue, boeing added a software called MCAS which automatically decreased the climb angle. Unfortunately, pilots weren’t trained for long enough on MCAS and how to operate it, leading to much confusion it the cockpit when the planes were suddenly losing altitude. This system failed twice, once for ethiopian airlines and once for lion air. Both times, the flight crews were extremely confused as to what was and had to battle with their faulty MCAS systems. sadly leading to two fatal crashes. immediately after the second crash, the 737 Max was recalled until pilots were all correctly trained and MCAS had been properly developed. Now, the 737 Max is a commonly used aircraft around the world and hasn’t had another crash since.
may everyone who’s lives were lost in these crashes rest in peace. ❤
It's unbelievable that no one is in jail for this manslaughter...
Boeing 737 has great era and fall era. 2 years ago it’s a worst era for 737 max, but now I haven’t see any crash from 737 max from 2021
1st ever boeing 737 max ever to crash
No it's the second. Eithiopian crash is first
@@chezgaminno idiot, lion air first
No, lion air crashed on 10/29/2018, and Ethiopian crashed on 03/10/2019
@@warpathcucucu ok
There’s no 29th month tho
I can’t imagine the faces of the captain and the co-pilot at the moment the plane was plunging into the sea. What were they thinking? Of course, the passengers wouldn’t have seen that view. They might have passed away without realizing it, as the impact from the front to the back of the plane would have taken less than a second.
Explenation: Likn air was a aircraft who shortly after takeoff had a malfunction in a system made by boeing called mcas and boeing operators never told the Indonesian pilots about this so many people blamed the pilots since they thought they didnt know how to operate a boeing. Later investigators found out that it was the system called mcas and it was made in case there was a nose to high or close to a stall but the system malfunctioned and started pounting the nose down but pilots could fight and eventually killed all passengers on board. R.I.P. ro all people who died.😢
R.i.p Indonesia Lion Boeing 😢 ❤ I live on Indonesia 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I know the plane crash was in a movie called:Downfall:the case against boeing
Jeez, still the sight of a brand new 737 max falling from the sky is chilling 2 or so years later.. 😢
One of the saddest crash in aviation industry!!
Actually something went wrong with angle of attack vane with gives input to MCAS, so it activates and think that aircraft is going to stall so they pitch the nose down..
And also pilots were not known about MCAS and they not train for that.. clearly it is the company mistake not the pilots
Thats sad😢😭😔💔
Can you please do 747 near crashes
As an indonesian, this is really painful to see😥😓
October 09, 2018.
When this flight, as known 610, on a 737 max model, set for take-off, the nose of the plane was out of the safe zone. Since the 737 max had the system to fix that, the pilot attempts to do so. The problem was, the system corrupted and sent flight 610 not to its destination, but to dive into the Java Sea near the coast of Indonesia. All 189 people aboard the flight are feared to be dead and have probably not been found since. May they all rest in peace.
His last words were “God is great “ 🥺🥹
Aku ingat tragedi itu😊😊❤❤🎉🎉🎉😢
The thing is that boeing made a setting in a 737 max8 that if it rose too high it goes down back to the takeoff direction but on lion air flight 610 when it tried to do that it malfunctioned that causes it to crash into the sea in the coast of Indonesia killing all 189 people on board after that it became the deadliest 737 max8 crash in aviation history.
Please do one about China eastern 5735. May they rest in peace❤️
Respect for lion 😭
Can you make United Airways Flight 232 Next
The Lion Air crash, which killed all 189 people on board, and the Ethiopian Airlines crash less than five months later grounded 737 Max planes around the world and sent Boeing's share price plummeting.
The horror of the depths of the sea. The plane was supposed to land on the runway but ended up in the sea
R.I.P JT 610 😢😢
my mum was in that flight
RIP Lion air 😢💔
Oh no the 737s nose malfunced 😢😢😢 and crashed😢😢❤❤
Camera man sat there 💀
nah bro it's an
animation
tf is he supposed to do? catch it?
No I’m js saying he js sat there and recorded it
@@Dfrye1983 Its aint funny
@@Dfrye1983 ik but that vid was not a footage it's an animation CLEARLY AN ANIMATION
The nose just keeps dipping during the ascent
idk why other pilots could disarm mcas, only lion air and ethiopian had a problem with it
Its a 737 max so uhh
Actually the lion air pilots did not use the switch to stop mcas but it didnt work anyways since the ethiopian 302 pilots pressed the switch and still crashed
This what happened to Melissa airlines😢
Thats sad
Me: okay 1 last video before I go on the plane :D
The video:
(In action the airport rn)
Thats who dont know Lion airways Flight 610 Its was from Jakarta When they Takeoff They was to Step when the Captain pull the Yoke up All Passgear crew member Pilots Died no one Survived
👇
Its the corrupted plane system
OMG😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Sony Setiawan survived by failing to arrive at the airport in time.
R I P for all those who passed away
Even after the fixes and everything, i still don't have a good feeling boarding that plane type.
Lion air flight 610 pilot: 'Allahu akbar!" "God is the Greatest!"
Respect to the pilot ❤
it was a good episode(also saw a documentary on it)
Rip to my fellow Indonesians
There family must be crying becuse there loved ones died😢
the death of the 189 people aboard Lion Air 610 as well as the 157 on board Ethiopian Airlines 302 on March 10, 2019. The installation of larger engines meant the airplane would be unstable in some, rare flight regimes. To counter this without having to apply for a new aircraft type certification or require additional pilot training, Boeing relied on an electronic gizmo called "MCAS" and assumed pilots would treat malfunctions as they would any other pitch trim abnormal. But on these two crashes, that was a bad assumption.
So the blame game can be stated thusly: the aircraft manufacturer took a short cut in the design when installing what they considered an automatic and transparent system. Two airline crews were caught and now people are dead. But is that really what happened?
Boeing. I think there is a point where the engines are too big for the existing airframe and it is time to start over. I also think giving pitch authority to the MCAS based on a single Angle of Attack sensor is foolhardy.
Lion Air. The airline has a reputation for doing everything as cheaply as possible and that includes pilot hiring and pilot training. Filling the front two seats with pilots with so little experience is very dangerous and doing so should make the company culpable in the deaths of those behind those two seats.
The pilots. The pilots of Lion Air 610 made a lot of mistakes and could have survived had they simply pulled the throttles back, kept the airplane configured, and returned to land. They could have also survived had they simply placed the pitch trim switches to "cut out" and finished the flight manually trimming their stabilizer. But it is hard to blame pilots who are plucked off the street with very little experience, given minimal training, and are allowed to continue flying even after years of failing checkrides and demonstrating to any objective observer that the Boeing 737 MAX was more airplane than they could handle. It was, simply put, too much airplane.
Airline crashes are rare, and rarer still are crashes that force the grounding of an entire fleet. Lion Air 610 was not immediately among them. But about four months later, on March 10, 2019, an equally new 737 Max flown by Ethiopian Airlines went down on departure from Addis Ababa with the loss of everyone aboard, and within a week all further flights of the 737 Max were stopped worldwide. After both accidents, the flight-data recordings indicated that the immediate culprit was a sensor failure tied to a new and obscure control function that was unique to the 737 Max: the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS). The system automatically applies double-speed impulses of nose-down trim, but only under circumstances so narrow that no regular airline pilot will ever experience its activation - unless a sensor fails. Boeing believed the system to be so innocuous, even if it malfunctioned, that the company did not inform pilots of its existence or include a description of it in the airplane’s flight manuals.
Source: Langewiesche
Even highly experienced pilots may be taken by surprise by a system that "applies double-speed impulses of nose-down trim." In a nutshell, the issue is this: Most pilots assume that when an airplane stalls the nose drops abruptly, which is where the nose needs to go in the event of a stall. But that isn't true of all airplanes, including the 737 MAX. So the double-speed impulse does that and makes the airplane appear to stall like early 737s. Of course an electronic fix to imitate an aerodynamic behavior is subject to malfunction. As we shall see in the case of Lion Air 610.
“Allahu Akbar😭”
NOOOOO MY COUNTRY 11 CRASH😢😢
Pilots don't die they just fly higher😢
😮😮😮😮😢😢😢❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hemmmmmmm. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢passengers goodbye😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
The first time i saw lion air flight 610 got crashed.
as an indonesian and an av geek i saw this plane took of in jakarta
R.I.P boeing is killing people now...
yeah on purpose probably
It would have never happened because the pilots never knew about the MCAS system
That hell of a Mcas system
one lucky guy missed the flight. talk about finding a four leaf clover
Can u do countries and their airlines indonesian and indian edition pls
Aku dari Indonesia juga
Do countries and their airlines Russia edition day 4
Maybe The Boeing Need To Fix This Auto MCAS Now Because By This MCAS The Plane Crash By This MCAS Twice Now
How any times do you think Nuuk got nuked
Do Adam Air flight 574
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
😢😢
Can you do this trend but with PSA 182?
My grandpa was in that plane and passed away... may you rest in peace🙏🙏🙏
As an indonesian… i dint know this happened
Day: 29/10/2018 189 people d**d
0 survived
Selat Sunda😢
This was the end of Lion Air.
No it isn't
@@TioGamerzYT My apologies. You're absolutely correct and I am incorrect. Australia Foreign Affairs and Trade banned its staff from flying Lion Air and its subsidies. The airlines was banned from flying anywhere in the European Union, 53 routes were revoked by the transportation ministry. Lion Air attempted to bribe transportation safety officials and crash investigators. The airlines pressured victims families to sign away their right to legal recourse for undercompensation. The victims families got around 3000.00 USD. Maintenance logs disappeared or never existed.
But sometime after all this they managed to actually start servicing their aircraft and get their safety rating back.
Mcas system💀
Lion air Indonesia😢
No wonders why it’s 737 Max
I'm from Indonesia
Rest in peace
my father work is enginer plane and he is from lion air
Ah yes, Boeing 737 Max, the aircraft that rushed to compete with the efficienty on their main competitor aircraft, airbus, that makes the Airbus A320neo, and while on testing the aircraft, the aircraft went too steep, so Boeing put a little software called MCAS, and this is the reason why the JT610 crashed into the java sea, while on the flight, the MCAS malfuncioned, causing the MCAS send the wrong data to Vertical stabilizer, that makes the aircraft went nose dive into the java sea
May all ppl R.I.P
Cause the MCAS system
in gunna fly in a 737 max soon
Lion Air Flight 610 was a scheduled domestic passenger flight from Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, Jakarta, to Depati Amir Airport, Pangkal Pinang, in Indonesia. On 29 October 2018, the Boeing 737 MAX operating the route crashed into the Java Sea 13 minutes after takeoff, killing all 189 passengers pin📌?
Rip 🙏
R.I.P
Rip im from indonesia
The plane crashed becuse the nose was ment to be abit down but they put it abit up and then they put it down it went all down and then they try to put it abit up and then they couldnt and they strugled and then they crasjed
😢
💔
Cause: MCAS Design Flaw
Why 😭😭
737 max failed it had like 5 crashes in its first flights. Got grounded for a year
@@santitheguy2* Lion Air flight 610 and Ethiopian airlines flight 302
@@santitheguyonly two crashes tho, but there were incidents of the 737max going nose down and up just as similar to those two deadly crashes but they landed safely.
@@vigh0 thanks
So sad
RIP
Im from indonesia
Is very sad
The fact that i was about to ride that plane 🙂
Lion air plane Indonesia
Is real