Baby Dylan should have remained with the foster mom until the parents remained sober for period of time. CPS/social workers in my opinion can be so dense when it comes to abbusive/drug addict parents by giving them the child/ren so fast. Such a deeply sad story.
They should have just let the foster mom keep him. I don’t understand why they wanted that baby back if they didn’t want to live him and care for him. It makes no sense. They had a loving person more than willing to keep him and raise him. Why didn’t they just let her keep him?
she said it like it was, no sob story in the world was going to get past the fury she felt. when she lift the item they buried that poor baby in I got madder than I been in a long time and sad at the same time too....good job prosecutor I applaud you and the job well done. I thought for a second she was gonna throw it at them she was p.o. just holding it and probably disgusted too.
The medical examiner in this case was amazing. She spoke clearly and concisely, not using medical jargon so everyone could understand. I appreciate that
When is CPS going to be held accountable for these situations? They didn’t perform the weekly check ins. They didn’t even drug test the dad. If they had left Dylan with the foster mom, he would still be alive.
The lawmakers who vote for laws and money won't fund or authorize CPS organizations because there's no votes in it. The victims can't vote and the perpetrators are usually scumbags that most voters can't or won't identify with. Money needs to go to more important things, like showy projects that can get on the news and be used in campaign ads. It's all about the money.
You have to consider the type who get into that line of work to begin with. It's usually purple haired feminists who have a gender studies degree, and 3 or 4 abortions they're proud of, that they list in their twitter bio next to their blue checkmark.
To Dylan's beautiful foster mama, thank you for showing Dylan what love and kindness was, and to the amazing lawyer, thank you for giving Dylan a voice and fighting for him. You are both angels xx
Amen to that. You put it so well. Will God forgive them? That woman will go to prison and do you know what female prisoners do to child killers? That Foster angel deserved better from the authorities, she was wonderful. And bless you for your comment 🙏❤
@@whatsanenigmaThat's not necessary. I know many people think having unprotected intercourse somehow gives people a better moral compass but videos like this kinda prove them wrong, I'd say lol Anyone with a functioning moral compass gets angry at stuff like this. Hell, I don't even like kids or get emotional easily but parents like those two infuriate me. Children suffering because of adult bs is something that will always make me angry, they're innocent and deserve better.
@@comedicsociopathy You're right, it's not necessary. And I haven't seen how this prosecutor handles other cases. I just get a mother vibe from her. I could be wrong though. But of course you're right, anybody can, and really should, feel like that, I've just never seen a prosecutor that intense, so I wonder.
I live in southern Ohio. 6 1/2 years ago our next door neighbor had a baby girl, born 1 month early. The mother was a addict. She was constantly asking for help, money or anything else that she wanted. By the end of the 2nd week, that baby girl spent at least 3 days with us. The following week it was 5 days. We talked to CPS, to the sheriff's department, but taking a child away from the bio parents in Ohio is a long drawn out process. We weren't foster parents. But, CPS had already met my better half and talked to her almost daily, and before long the neighbor girl and CPS asked if we would take the baby. We got emergency certification as temporary foster parents in two days. This little girl was tiny. We both are on our 2nd go around and both have grown kids and I already have 5 grandkids. There was hesitation but knew we couldn't let this child stay with the mother. She eventually started thriving after about one to two months old and hasn't looked back. When she turned 3, the bio mom got caught receiving tax credits for the little girl along with other charges. She was sent to rehab. After she got out, she decided she wanted her baby back. She had already spent the first 3 years of her life with us. There was nothing we could do since we're no relation so we just did everything we could to accommodate and help the mother. Obviously, it wasn't easy. It's like losing your own child by this point. We watched for 11 months as this "mother" and her new boyfriend tried to raise three kids all under 5, while being addicted to several drugs. She lost custody again after 9 months. The little girl went to get grandma who had previously taken no steps to help. She keeps her fur about 6 months. That was 3 1/2 years ago and tiger little girl is back with us permanently. In the spring we can adopt and we plan to. The state bends over backwards to get children back to parents. To the point of harming children. The alternative is a foster system that is overwhelmed and under staffed. Neither of us had ever attempted to be foster parents before. It just fell into our laps. But I will say, I am glad it happened. Hopefully with time, our little girl will heal from the knowledge of having a family who have either failed or rejected keeping her. She's got a great children's therapist that she sees weekly and is slowly getting past it. But, she's still thriving. She's almost 7 but thinks she's 17 and a bundle of energy. Try the foster system. You might serve a child. Peace ✌️
Bless you and yours for your generosity and being that girl's true family. Your story is making me tear up. I hope you and your family are blessed forever. You truly saved someone's life. 💗
Thank you, the world needs more people like you. Wishing you all happy and healthy lives. Unfortunately drugs is big business and big money to forces we will maybe find out more one day and addiction an illness,xwe who don't fall prey to this evil trade are so lucky.
@@miarobinson847 right, I could never professionally narrate cases like this. I would just be reading off part of script and lose track and start cussing and venting, when I listen to some of these I have to stop sometimes just to voice my anger against these types of - ahem cough cough *Monsters*
Giving a child back to parents with history of drug use... and then everyone is surprised when he ends up dead? I had a friend who was a drug addict in high school, he stole from me and ever since then I've had real hatred for drug addicts. Don't telll me its a sickness, it's not... drug addicts are sociopaths who only care about themselves.
That female prosecutor was a bulldog. I usually can’t stand when the attorneys start yelling but this time it was deserved and she did a hell of a job. You can tell she had emotion in it and wanted to take those two scumbags down.
As a mother of a firefighter, having to watch them extract that from that well put a huge lump in my throat and a big sick feeling in my stomach... I pray my son never sees anything like this 😢 bless these firefighters hearts I can only imagine
Being a parent is a huge privilege. My 27 year old son is coming over tomorrow for a haircut, and I can’t wait to see him. It’s a privilege to be called Mum, or Dad. These two are disgraceful. Disgraceful human beings.
Ended up still shouting "fuck ya" in an empty parking lot only to get one back cuz theres some weirdo sitting in his car at 4am. Kinda funny kinda feel bad. Still would do it again cuz fuck these people.
Abuse born addicted that go through withdrawal are the saddest thing ever. A hospital in my city Called Jefferson actually has a program where you can sign up to cuddle the little babies that are going through it. You know the doctors and nurses do everything they can do medically but don’t have the time to rock each lil baby. It’s SO sad.
For some reason, our family courts believe parents have the right to possess their children...until they get school age & then the schools tell us what rights we have, depending on the state you live in. They always err on the side of the parents!
I believe you can see the jealousy in their faces whenever she testifies about how the community came together to provide for him.. they are narcissistic monsters, imo
My Aunt used to foster kids. Her last placement was with an infant named Willie. He was born addicted and cried non-stop for the first two months. I bought her the softest clothes and blankets to wrap him in. The poor little guy was crawling out of his skin and it seemed everything that touched him hurt. Then when he was around 2.5 months old he settled in. He started to flourish. When he was around 18 months or so my Aunt was told he was getting a "kinship foster" placement. She questioned the caseworker because my Aunt had been told that Willie had no viable family which was why he was originally placed with her. To make a long and sad story short, the state of AZ placed him with the bio Dad's ex-gf. In my mind, an ex-gf is NOT kin. The ex-gf and the bio parents were cahoots. The bio parents told the ex-gf she could keep half of the foster care checks and they would take the baby. Willie died of blunt force trauma 18 days after he left my Aunt. She never did foster care again and she hasn't been the same since. The thing is social workers are pressured to perform just like any other job. They are pressured to place kids in "kinship" placements and are in a hurry to clear their cases. They have performance reviews and these "stats" matter. I believe this is because a huge portion of our foster care system is privatized. The government uses state and federal taxpayer funds to pay private FOR PROFIT companies to find foster parents, monitor foster homes including group homes- in fact, MOST group homes are run by FOR PROFIT companies. I don't think FOR PROFIT companies should be in the business of caring for our most vulnerable. People and Profit never end well. You have to ask yourself if these companies are in the business of making money off of people then what is their motivation to get these kids out of the system? This is why SOOOO many kids who end up in group homes go directly to Juvi and then Jail and then prison. They have been institutionalized from day one. If you ever want to go down a rabbit hole- look into foster to group to juvi. Most of the companies that run one, run the others. I once spent way too long looking into who sat on the boards of these private companies that work in foster care and I found that A LOT of the people that sat on the board, also sat on the board of private for-profit prisons. I never say "private business" anymore. I always say "FOR PROFIT company." That way it reminds everyone that profit is being made. Anyways. If you read this overly long post - light a candle and say Willie's name so that he isn't forgotten and may live on in some way.
Thank you for taking the time to write such an eloquent, and moving comment, that was clearly heartfelt. I know words are cheap, but may I send my sorrow for you, your absolutely incredible Aunt, and, of course, Baby Willie (which I hope a flight of angels took him to his rest, and to be counted amongst their own ...) ... I agree with you: having being involved with social services, both inactive, and active, participant, that combination of having to meet expectations, plus chronic underfunding, means that removing a child completely from a family of origin is only done as an absolute last resort. Otherwise, the intense pressure, from above, means that, even if their instincts is to remove the child as far away as possible, given being placed in a no-win situation, and despite all of the red flags, they are often forced to do the unthinkable. On top of that, is the caseload; due to the lack of staff, the average Social Worker often has far too many, and, often, individually, very complex cases, which the have to constantly manage, like plate spinning. Given, again, the chronic underfunding, and that Social Work is seen as a high-risk, low-reward, career, with so few employed, with so little appropriate training, and pay far too low for the job that they do, it's no wonder that history of child deaths, at the hands of their own parents, especially the mother's, keeps happening, repeatedly, especially when multiple agencies are involved, and are unable to coordinate properly. Child protection shouldn't just be seen as a matter for the States alone, but also a Federal one, too, especially as when the families under suspicion, keeps moving from one State to another. Just moving across a State line, with similar complaints following them, at that point, something Federal, concerning child welfare, and protection, should swing into place, and seen not just as felonies, but capital crimes, as well, especially if one, or more, child deaths is attributed to them. If found guilty, through a unanimous verdict, and depending on the extent of the abuse, even if they plead guilty, as a priority plea deal, the tarrif of sentencing should begin with 25 years, and upto, and including, Life, without Parole, especially to be carried out in solitary confinement, in a maximum security prison. I say solitary confinement, because, due to the testimony of former hostages, especially ones captured in Beruit, solitary confinement, for them, was like "being buried alive" ... I still remember be taken to a famous castle, in Northern England, where, in the dungeon, and separated from the rest by a something of a wall, was a hole in the ground that stretched horizontally, and covered by a small, square, locked, grate, illuminated by a single halogen lamp. There is a name for it, but essentially, once the prisoner was slid into this thing, with the face staring upwards into the gloom of that dungeon, through those iron bars, of that grate, hearing the screams of the tortured, and essentially forgotten about (which is almost what the name of that hole means), with only occasional meals, the combination of dehydration, starvation, and, of course, forced to lay in not only their own excrement, but also that of the prisoners before them, meant disease, and death, was likely. Granted, that is now considered a cruel and unusual punishment, if not torture, and is banned as such ... ... but locked up, by, and with, oneself, especially for someone whom thrives on company, and left alone with one's own thoughts, having to face their own daemons, 23hrs, everyday, with only 1 hour of unscheduled exercise outside that cell, for years, if not decades, for extroverts, in particular, all of that will eat away at them. So, quite aside from the Innocents Project, which finds a few too many incorrectly convicted individuals on Death Row, why I think Capital Punishment should be restricted to Life without Parole, is because a death sentence, especially by lethal injection (which is only one step furthest away from a General Anesthetic, especially in some highly difficult surgeries ...), that is almost too swift. To be forced to live out their lives, in a cell, especially as they age, is, to me, a far worse a punishment. In case of this ... mother ... to be locked away in a relatively small room, would, hopefully, give her an idea of being trapped inside those two crates, which, had Baby Dylan not been found, would've been his coffin for eternity ... so let both those two 'parents' experience that, each, seperated, and alone, from each other ...
I remember that case... I hate Arizona child protective services they abuse the children they take on and place them into worse homes or back with the parents they were taken from.
I can’t imagine the heartbreak of the foster mother who dedicated herself to caring for a newborn going through withdrawals. All the love her friends & family showered on that sweet baby to save him. Laws need to be changed & I wish more decent people would become foster parents. Too many people do it for the money.
so so true, I stated that as well in my comment and she's gonna be suffering her entire life because of it. questioning herself and the child services for their stupidity of returning that baby to known drug addicts. my heart goes out to her and the people involved in this case.
I'm a father of a little girl who's under a year old, and the testimony about his broken bones made me cry my eyes out. How could you do this to a baby?
I am a recovering addict and know first hand how strong the hold and influence of addiction can be. That being said, NEVER at any point, regardless of how deep your addiction runs, do you magically lose the knowledge of right and wrong. Sure, it can sink you into an abyss of desperation, which can definitely make you do things you wouldn’t normally even consider (like stealing or pawning valuables etc). It doesn’t turn your brain off though. It doesn’t erase all morals. They were monsters before drugs entered the picture. The drugs just lifted the layers of deception they surrounded themselves in so people wouldn’t know who they really were. Drugs are not an excuse for unacceptable behavior. Take it from an addict.
it's always the non-parents that i feel the worst for in these stories. hearing how her support system was able to get the house ready in ONE day almost broke me... that baby would have had everything. how the system can decide that blood means absolutely anything in these situations is beyond me.
@@PoptartParasol "The Blood of the Covenant is thicker than the Water of the Womb" ... In my case, the person whom is a close friend, is only a few years older than me, yet he and his wife are more like parents to me, than all of my paternal and maternal families, including my birth parents, combined ... ... with the exception of my younger sister, I feel like I don't have family ... Funny thing: you can attack me any which way ... ... but go after my sister, and you have me, and Hell, coming after you ...
Its a corrupt system. Back home in NC in the 00's there was a crack family that CPS took the kids from. After one clean drug test they gave the kids back only for the parents to go on a crack binge and beat their babies to death. CPS hounds decent parents while leaving the worst scum alone. Its unjust and may God have mercy on those corrupt bastards. I've seen so many horrors while working the ER that I've lost faith in our legal system.
I don't know why these people didn't just leave the baby with the foster mother. That would've been a sign of some generosity by giving the baby a chance to have a better life.
They probably saw the foster program as stealing their "property". Drug addicts get defensive about having anything or anyone taken away from them...plus, they take it as a threat to see someone else raise their baby better than them.
Well- it is so hurtful to watch, but it does confirm that Dylan was in fact loved so very much by someone, and cared for with love, if only for the shortest wee while ruclips.net/video/EQB7pEKEQyo/видео.html
I've worked in welfare with parents who had kids removed. They were people who were generally quite mentally compromised, lower iq than normal. They treated their children like objects that had been stolen. They considered the departments demands they have money, a home and not be doing drugs before getting their kids back way too much to ask. One woman said she learned through a parenting course that she didn't own her child, this was a revelation for her. They will fight to get a baby back when they can't even look after themselves, their brains just don't work properly. The consideration that the child is an object that should serve them somehow and has no needs of their own leads directly to abuse and their ability to learn how to behave differently is quite low.
The moment the prosecutor lifted the crates to drive home her point...brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for representing Dylan. Thank you for being his voice. Rest in peace little one.
The prosecutor was such a boss!! "This is what they chose for a coffin and his burial? This?!?" That quote brought chills and tears to my eyes. What a horrific and disrespectful way to lay your own child to rest.
Mine too.... I can't imagine her having to live after prosecuting that case. You could tell she was not only passionate about her job, but how much this was affecting her as well. RIP baby Dylan! May GOD have mercy on the souls of those so-called parents.
Yet conservatives want to let employers determine if women can get birth control. In Texas your Neighbor can sue a cab driver who drives you to an abortion clinic . If women weren’t coerced into having babies they don’t want their would be less child abuse. That coercion also includes continually telling little girls that they should be wives and mothers.
@@dancingnature What? This wasn't a birth control issue? This was failure of the the social worker for not examining the child properly and not listening to the foster parent. 😑 Since your talking about abortion, what difference is it if the baby is tortured to death in the womb rather than outside the womb? Make it make sense.
@dancingnature .. yeah, the crack rage had nothing to do with it 🤦🏻♀️ smh .. jessica groves was an angry crack head and as for danny boy, he was too pussy to help his baby - this case has nothing to do with abortion
"I have to live with this for the rest of my life." okay honey, but you get to live. Maybe you should have thought of that before beating a newborn to death. The Foster mother was a beautiful soul and I hope she goes on to help more kids from situations like these. She's a human incarnation of an angel and I have so much respect for her, and also the BA prosecutor. Ooo she was on fire.
I worked with a patient like that who thankfully had her kids taken away before anything worse happened. She got their names tattooed on her and everything. Even with all that, she refused to even try to be a worthy mother. She would cry about wanting her kids back but when I asked her plans of earning them back she would just give me a smile. I had built rapport with her so even she was willing to "admit" to at least a small bit of her bs. It wasn't the drugs that made her like that either, she was sober at that point because she was locked down basically. There's a lot of "mothers" like this, and I find that they create more of themselves if the child gets to live. The vast majority of mentally ill patients and trauma survivors are not like that. But when you meet one that is it's chilling. We need more foster mothers like the one in the video, and an overhaul of how we handle childcare, this is just unacceptable.
I've been sober over 10 years. Knowing how HORRIBLE withdrawals are and thinking of a newborn baby going through them thoroughly breaks my heart. What absolute wastes of skin.
It's only been just over a year for me, but those were some of the worst days of my life. No way I could imagine a newborn having to deal with that horrible shit.
@@danielledalton6722 Completely agreed. To not even be able to voice how miserable withdrawls are, to be so completely helpless is...there just isn't any words. Also, "only" over a year is short changing yourself. Each day of your year is a HUGE, remarkable accomplishment! I'm certain based on the compassion I've seen in this thread that we will all keep our sobriety going.
That attorney gave me chills! You can tell it became personal for her - but how could it not? I pray that she feels peace knowing that she found justice for Dylan!
That prosecutor is the G.O.A.T. She managed to perfectly counter Jessica's meandering bullshit, and god, you can *hear* the disgust in her voice. This is a hard episode to watch as someone who's grown up with baby siblings.
@@Saakk129 I agree.. I was washing dishes as I listened and she seemed a bit hysterical to me.. as a prosecutor.. I would expect her to have control over her emotional state while presenting her case.. but.. that's just me I guess.. lol
@@treaty8631 I'm speaking about the parents though. *Why* keep that baby if they hate it?? Could have aborted or given it to parents who would've adored her. It is better for children to be with parents; if the parents actually want the baby. I don't get these m_r_ns points in doing this?
When the woman was listing the injuries of the baby it broke my heart. As a uncle that would do anything for his niece and nephews it really deeply pains me to hear this. They deserve to die slow and painful
I agree. My sister had the same problem. Oh yeah she still does. I had custody of my nieces while they were toddlers... and most of their Teenage life.... and now they are team Mommy... my oldest niece last year was talking about a friend of theirs that have been clean for 8 months have messed up... They said they were done with her. I said well your mother's a drug addict. I got scream that so bad that my mommy is a functioning drug addict. I do believe that is oxymoron. She has been doing methamphetamine since she was 17 years old. She is 53. I tell her you have outlived your lifestyle.
I’m a mommy and auntie and I can’t stomach the fact someone can do this to a child. God why did they even fight to get him back if they didn’t want him? The foster mom loved him and would’ve given him a great life.
They looked like they were hardcore into their addiction when they were arrested. That baby never had a chance. It's unbelievable that social services would return a baby that was born drug dependent to the parents with the addiction so they could finish him off.
The system fails abused children every single day. They waste all of their energy chasing down good parents that disciplined their child and neglect legit abuse. It’s heartbreaking
Babies aren’t born addicted. They’re born dependent. A baby can’t be addicted. By definition addiction has certain behaviors that babies cannot do. They don’t jump out of the womb, cal their dealer and steal money from mom and dad on the way to their dealer. They can’t even take the drugs themselves. Saying addicted babies adds to the stigma and these kids don’t need that.
@@lessthanxthreebeauty by definition addiction is the fact or condition of being addicted to a certain substance OR activity ..... dependance is the state of relying on or being controlled by someone or something ...... they are not dependent on it as they can live without it, albeit with adverse reactions....
@K DALLAS I couldn't imagine having to see something like that, omg.. I will never understand how anyone could do this to their child? I couldn't do what you do.... having your heart ripped out every time.. I pray God helps you deal with it.. ❤
@K DALLAS thank you for your reply... I will never understand why they would put a defenseless child at risk? And omg after he drives his truck into water with the child ? I can't.... people like that should NEVER be able to have children, I'm sure that poor baby wakes up on eggshells every day... I have unfortunately only seen a dead child one time in my life... when I was 14 my mom and dad and I were on vacation and we had our rv in a campground for the night. They had a lake for swimming and a mother had walked into the lake with her kids and the undertow swept both the kids up and she got a hold of one of them, the little girl wasn't found till 4 hours later 😥 there must have been 5 men trying to hold this mother down,she was hysterical... the little girl was ghost white and lying there,my mother, dad and I were crying our eyes out... that scene haunted me. So many times I thought of that lady and how every year on her child's birthday she had to remember that...how heartbreaking 😥 I've been a caregiving for about 35 years now and I took care of severely and profound children for a few of those years. I have seen the results of a child who's parents, surely on a bender have destroyed their child's life.... I will never get it. .. I'm glad there's people like you, this world has become so evil it's nice to see some hope that there are good people left so thank you...❤ it's just a shame that situation even exists 😔
@K DALLAS that is the sickest thing ever.... sick ass human beings that like little kids🤮🤮 they will rot in hell! Drugs are evil.. it can take a perfectly good person and change them into someone else.. I am all for those who have changed their lives for the better but for the others, it makes them a pos human.. it's one thing to smoke some weed but another if you're pimping out a child to pay for your fix... I DESPISE those people the most...
@K DALLAS I have to shut out all the evil crap going on sometimes, it's just so hard to listen to. All the evil things in the world are now tenfold and it just gets worse every day unfortunately... I figure as long as those of us that are all fighting the good fight ,we make our stand against evil. As a victim of child sexual abuse myself, I know what an impact it has on your life.... the idea of keeping your faith and not letting it tear you apart is how you conquer it, having a strong mind is everything 💪 ❤
I really feel like the foster mom would've adopted this child and he would have had a beautiful life.....but instead he was given back to monsters. Its so sad. While I dont believe drug addicts should be written off... I do believe they should have to go through a million hoops to get their kids back once they're taken. I'm not religious but if there is a hell, they're gonna be in the darkest pits of it. This is so sick.
Exactly, if they didn't want the kid, why not let someone else raise it?. And there is a hell and I feel sorry for what they will face in the next life
Happens more then u know children giving back to there parents and taken away again and placed with DIFFERENT FOSTER FAMILYS THE SYSTEM IS BS REALLY IS
I was a drug addicted Dad for a few years and left on my own because I knew my baby girl did not need to be around my lifestyle. It was so hard for me to except that I could not be a good father at that time. Luckily I had a beautiful, amazing wife that has never done a drug in her life…..my baby girl was safe. I went to treatment and got help and I’ve been clean for eight years now. My daughter is 11 and we are all back together and have three more children. My little girl saved my life because she is the reason I got help. These parents can’t even except the fact that they failed her child. “It was an accident “, it is such bullshit…. You don’t accidentally drop your child enough times to cause all those broken bones and not realize you did that. I don’t care what drugs you were on, you know what you do in those moments and you have to take responsibility for yourself.
I wonder sometimes who is more incompetent: parents who have no business being parents or department of child services. Unfortunately, I’ve seen this first person. The entire system needs a serious overhaul.
@@joygraybill4444 I'd Love to see her on that case too. Her and her Mom think that they have some high profile attorney that's going to get her off. This DA her would chew them all up and spit them out like they were nothing. What a shame she couldn't be there.
@@EazytheNDAcaptain This couple are a great case *for* abortion. (People who don't support the right to choose are guaranteeing that unwanted and abused children end up in our society which repeat precisely this cycle. This has been shown scientifically, regardless of what our personal beliefs might teach.) Child services are a major problem here but there are only so many foster parents and resources to take care of them. And so much for the war on drugs, right?
Stacy Martinez - LOL! I just watched that one the other night, also a terribly sad case. Boom! Evidence! , lol that guy was absolutely nuts and thank goodness his son was a far better man than he ever was. True strength in adversity. This poor baby had no way to defend himself, so sad
She doesn't feel guilt, she feels shame. Shame is when you are more upset that people are going to look at you badly rather then her understanding and feeling bad she murdered her child.
absolutely. the way she gets aggressive when the prosecutor isn't having any of her tears is perfect back-up for this. if she was feeling guilty, those questions would have broken her down--not caused her to attack.
I wouldn't even say it's shame that she felt, I gathered that it was another sad ass attempt to "look" as though she was ashamed to gain some type of sympathy for her benefit, regarding to the jury, her sentencing or in the public eye. Very sociopathic like. She's truly pathetic, should be buried under the fucking prison.
I was always told in therapy that guilt is feeling like you did something bad, shame is feeling like you are bad. I think she feels neither of those. She doesn’t think she did anything bad, or that she is bad. She just thinks it’s too bad she got caught. Most of the time in therapy people are feeling guilt and shame for things that aren’t their fault. In this case it’s the opposite. She doesn’t feel guilt and shame for things that are her fault.
That prosecutor wasn’t a prosecutor in this case. She was the voice of Dylan. He never had one. And I’m glad she went unfiltered. She’s bringing justice for a baby boy who didn’t deserve such cruelty. I salute you and thank you and anyone involved in this case for removing these things off the streets.
The words, "Oh fuck off," have never come out of our mouths so much as with this video. That prosecutor was amazing! Her fury at what they did, not letting up on Jessica, her cracking when describing Dillon's "grave"... I cried. I don't know how any decent human, especially parents, WOULDN'T. I honestly hope both of them get daily beatings.
For a man who loves kids but was never able to have any, cases like this just make me sick. That poor infant soul. Thankfully he,ll never know what happened to him. Godspeed innocent child.
I believe we choose our lives on this earth and that we’ve had many incarnations of different kinds. Still, these types of stories are chilling. I have one child, and it physically pains me to see my child feeling sad. Especially during the baby stage, I remember being heavily medicated due to recovering from a C section and still my baby’s every need came before my own. It wasn’t even a thought, it was instinctive. And this from a person who had always planned on being child free. We’re biologically wired to nurture our kids, so people who don’t seem to be possessed by some dark entity or something. Truly eerie
Generally I think a prosecutor shouldn’t show that much emotion but this situation is different and I don’t think she could help herself she was so pissed off.
I’m on the fence with this one. She shouldn’t be this aggressive but at the same time, she’s probably a mother herself, 90% of us couldn’t do her job without wanting to beat the piss out of people like this, sometimes emotion just overrides professionalism
I have 2 sons that are exactly 18 months apart. My youngest cried for the first 6 months. It was frustrating and I was overwhelmed and sleep deprived. Not once did I ever injure my sons or "accidentally drop" them. What a bunch of bullshit. This is why some people should not be allowed to have children.
@@ungurdagda813 the people the govt sterize arent abusive parents, it's usually just based on racism. Right now it has been happening in immigrant detention centers. (Some of the people in those detention centers did follow the law allowing people to come seeking asylum, it must be said before anyone says "just don't break the law")
My son spent his first 6 months screaming due to (?) Cholic? Hunger ? Boredom ? He was born 23 1/2" long and only 7 lbs 15 Oz, and wanted to feed constantly. I nursed him as often as possible (he was 10 lbs 8 Oz at 3 weeks) and felt like I was going to vomit from exhaustion for all of that time. He slept for 3 minutes at a time and could remain awake for hours on that power-nap. Never EVER did I consider taking out any frustration on him ! Any sensible person would know that infancy is a finite period. (He's 28 and wonderful)
I watched my mom raise my three younger brothers. Two of them cried a LOT. They all woke up all hours of the night and didn't usually want to go back to bed. They frequently peed the bed once they were older, sometimes multiple times a night. My mom drank a lot then, took drugs at times, and she suffers from bipolar disorder, which sometimes led to pretty extreme fits of rage. She also suffers from severe migraines, which are crippling. Even so, she stopped drinking and doing drugs cold turkey when she was pregnant, every single time. There was never the remotest chance she would have hit any of them, at any point, ever. Regardless of what else may have been going on. Crying at night was met with walking, rocking, and speaking gently, even when it was obvious she could barely keep her eyes open. There's really no excuse for these parents. Drug addiction doesn't mean you act like this, despite the ridiculous implication made in this video that all drug addicts abuse their kids. When you love your kids, you love your kids. These people are just totally fucked.
You want to foster? No prob. We'll just need a mental evaluation, a full physical, a home inspection for allergens, a drug test every day at noon, a DNA test from you and all your neighbors, a genetic test for all known diseases from all living members of your family tree, a minimum of a 3.8 GPA on your high school transcript, a fecal test from your first child's pediatrician, 300 hours community service and a level 6 security clearance. Your baby was born an addict? Hey, things happen sometimes. Here's your baby! 👶
@Juu Vee Babies are born addicted when supplied drugs in vitro. They must detox, like an... addict. To ease the process of withdrawal, they may be humanely given medications to help that painful, terrible process. If you feel more emotionally secure in thinking that a baby is not an addict because the baby did not choose addiction for themselves, and therefore absolutely must comment something to *fix* my comment, then I must also comment that the point of my comment went over your head.
@Juu Vee I get you don't want to associate a baby being addicted to drugs to an adult being addicted to drugs but the effects on the body are still the same. I get what you mean though
Babies aren’t born addicted. They’re born dependent. A baby can’t be addicted. By definition addiction has certain behaviors that babies cannot do. They don’t jump out of the womb, cal their dealer and steal money from mom and dad on the way to their dealer. They can’t even take the drugs themselves. Saying addicted babies adds to the stigma and these kids don’t need that.
I've seen this case all over, but you gave me so much more coverage and information. Thank you. such a sad disturbing case they should never have gotten that baby back with drug testing.
if you take a few moments to imagine yourself withstanding 2 skull fractures, rib fractures, arm and leg fractures, without any relief, over an extended period of time, you are still light years away from knowing how this tiny baby really felt. The relentless suffering was unfathomable. I weep over it whenever I come across this case. I mourn that their living son has to carry this horror as part of his life's experience. These two should NEVER leave prison, EVER.
I kept thinking the same thing. The pain he must have been in not being attended by a doctor every time he was picked up, moved or even breathed. And then for his life to end with more. I can’t comprehend.
Has no choice. It's her job to prosecute to the best of her ability. Same with the defense. Must defend and try to get your client found not guilty by the absolute best of your ability.
@@chelseapeters7187 what was the point of this comment... this lawyer was definitely more passionate than most and ur comment is not giving her credit for what? lol
The prosecutors emotions and the sense of rage literally sent chills down my spine. She did a passionate job making sure the baby gets justice. RIP baby Dylan
That’s her job 😂 the state pays her 6 figures for that reason. Whether you did it or not she’ll paint you as the devil himself by exaggerating facts and making up a story.
This happens often with DCS. It is ALWAYS their goal to reunify children with bio parents even when it is dangerous for the child. I have video and audio recordings of social workers saying this here in Nashville Tennessee. They are corrupt as fk. Total evil.
Dylan would still be alive today if CPS had left him with his loving Foster mom. CPS is partly responsible for his death for taking him away from a safe loving home to a dangerous situation with known drug addicts.
Cps is just as guilty imo because they neglected to both do proper research and follow up with these obvious drug addicts. It happens a lot out there unfortunately.
I agree. Like they said in the beginning. A person who chooses to become a foster parent must go through so much training and classes. Yet, this vile man and woman were just handed their baby back. No drug tests. They test people who get out of jail for non violent crimes how often...
@@jennifersiegle7796 I don’t want to argue at all, but from what I recall from watching this trial, Daniel Groves used Daniel Jr’s urine to pass a drug test. I still believe that CPS failed this child drastically, but I know they would prefer to reunite their children than put them through the system. This poor baby was failed all around.
A premature sick baby that they were responsible for making sick and probably premature as well.. These people are animals and do not deserve to breathe another single breath of air
If the baby was bothering her so much, why didn't she just return him to his foster mother 🤬 How do you expect a baby to stop crying by seriously injuring it 🤦🏼♀️
Because then they would lose their monthly drug money that is supposed to be being spent on the children. In Ontario, Canada, as far as I know for every child under 16 you get over $500.00 a month. When my child turned 14 I just started giving the baby bonus straight to them, anyone who knew this told me how stupid I was because my child lived with me and I had expenses. I just lived a little poorer, my child's whole life if they were with their father only ever got 2nd hand things,, they got their first real cell phone when they were I believe 17. Peace and much love sent from Ontario, Canada. P.S the guilt you have when your poor is horrendous.
The foster mother was such an Angel. My heart breaks for her to this day. It’s so sad this this government’s CPS do less for children than this amazing woman.
I know. I think of her often. Her grief is so strong and so unfair. She loved him completely. She would have given him such a wonderful life. 12 days she had him and loved him and then he was taken away to be offered up to that scum. I'm sure she's haunted by the whole tragedy, I hope she's not, but I think unfortunately she probably is. Bless her heart 💜
@@irishhoopers6899 She will get peace, maybe not today or tomorrow but one day she will. I pray she does not let this steal her joy. She is much too golden of a human being to have her joy stolen. 😢😢🙏🙏 If only this world was filled with more like her! 💔
Yep, she was probably the only person in Jessica's life to not let her off the hook and hold her accountable for what she did. She nows who and what shes dealing with and how to deal with such people. She ain't messin around! I cheered for her when she was grilling Jessica on the stand. And as far as I'm concerned she can also grill CPS because once again, they screwed up and placed a baby back into a dangerous situation that they removed from before. Things dont get better with hopeless drug addicts. They should have left Dylan with the foster mother where he was safe and loved.
Being a prosecutor is a job, and that pays money. And they are trying as best as they can to get the perpetrator convicted so that they are more likely to be chosen again for the job. And one of the ways is by adding emotion to be more convincing.
For real. So visceral and raw. Not only can you feel what shes feeling but when you hear that kind of emotion in someone's voice, it taps into something inside you that's just so primal and real. She wasn't just angry, she hated these people. And honestly, so do I.
Whoa whoa whoa. I was on your side until you said "EVERY time there's a case of a drug addict getting their baby taken away, they fight tooth and nail to get them back only to turn around and kill them because they wouldn't stop crying". @26:33 Buddy, this is ONE case. Holy over-generalization to an entire population of already stigmatized people. Chill. 😳
The CPS didn’t protect that baby either, Daniel employer’s wasn’t checked out throughly before they released the baby back to those MONSTERS!! I think they need to be held accountable as well!! Thanks to the Foster Mother & Father for giving precious baby Dylan 12 good days here on this planet!!
Yeah, I honestly find it strange that this video didn't take the time to point out that social services also failed spectacularly to protect the baby. Whether it was because of apathy (unlikely) or an overwhelmed system (very very likely), the Groves should NEVER have been allowed to keep Dylan. Not sure I'm going to watch any more videos on this channel if this is how the creator handles these sorts of complex issues.
and its not just like that in the USA Im german and I *literally* need LOADS more qualifications and training to do charity work, cleaning and doing housework for disabled people, a task I literally do every day at my own home anyway, than I would to have an entire fucking child and raise it
That is the most heated I've ever seen a prosecutor, and for good reason. There is so much tragedy here, baby Dylan above all. Addiction, which I assume both parents were, can and often does destroy lives and directly and peripherally, as in this case. This case is a good reminder that people need to seek treatment if they ever become addicted to drugs and or are using them regularly.
The recovery of his body, those images… oh. My ribs ache. Crushed by rocks, chained into a milk crate, dumped into the earth like he’s nothing… That poor baby.
@@shannong2703 Nah. Death is too convenient for those degenerate. They should be forced to stay in an empty cell, for the rest of their miserable lives, with nothing but Dylans image burned on every four walls to look at. No company, no TV or radio, no newspaper or books. No stimulation other than the little boys autopsy pictures, to remind them why they are there. Only the most basic meal, to keep them healthy and alive as long as possible! No way out for those who hurt innocent children or animals. Only misery and pain!
The little guy was gonna be fine with that nice lady!!! Sure he was going through withdrawals, bless his tiny heart. But he was safe. This is infuriating to me.
@@shaahidacarr2605 I've seen the story on Netflix regarding Gabriel Hernandez. Man, these parents need a good beating. I'm not a violent person but some parents............
"How did you cause this injury?" "I don't remember" "Then how did you remember it was an accident?" That prosecutor kicks so much ass i love her. Absolutely holding nothing back on these monsters
She remembers EVERYTHING, when she didn't have drugs, baby wouldn't stop crying BECAUSE HE HAS 25 BROKEN BONES, she murdered him, 100%. I believe Daniel is completely controlled and feared Jessica, so he let her beat him, didn't care much about anything but getting high. Glad Daniel Jr made it out unharmed. Anyone can get hooked on drugs. They can do exactly this, and it happens every day so please y'all be careful, and love ur kids, stop having them if u cannot care for them!!
That prosecutor is amazing. You can hear the passion in her voice to bring these people to justice. Several times it sounds like she’s gonna start crying out of anger towards the parents and sadness for the baby. And the way she was grilling the mother was fantastic. More prosecutors need to have her energy
@@PsycheStar101 not incorrect in the United States. The 5th amendment protects against that, hence the phrase "I plead the 5th". I do not know about other parts of the world, but that's entirely irrelevant because this case is in Ohio... which is in the United States.
I saw a comment on the Justin ‘Ross’ Harris police interrogation which made me laugh despite the dark and terrible connotations. Ross fake-cried, auto-hyperventilated, and stopped to swig water for around 45 min before the police came in, trying to give himself credibility by ‘crying’ on-camera. The comment was “if I were the cops, I’d have let him do his fake crying show for the 45 minutes, then, walk in and say ‘Hi, Mr Harris, we’re going to turn the cameras on now…’ “
This medical examiner is awesome, she talks in a way that all of us can understand what she’s saying. Bless the foster family, I wish they could’ve kept Dylan 🙁
Wow, that female prosecutor is incredible! It's sad that baby Dylan will never understand that people like her fought so hard for him. The parents were so selfish. For that 'mother' to say she doesn't remember how she caused those injuries is of course utter bullshit. If she would never intentionally hurt her child, she would surely remember every time she accidentally caused him any sort of pain. This is a horrible case, but I get only a small amount of joy from knowing their actions will haunt them for the rest of their lives, as they're slowly forgotten about in prison.
when the detective comes back after he was caught whispering about how he took them to the wrong place…. Man she had a lot of restraint in not attacking him for continuing to deny
Going through withdrawal as an adult is pure HELL. I can’t imagine what this BABY went through. The death penalty for both parents and jail time for the everyone else who let this happen. Most depressing story ever. 💔
The only, the ONLY reprieve is that a baby will not remember the experience. But yes, I have experienced the worst pain imaginable, and that was still preferable to WD. I'll never understand why people would do this to a child. He was safe, he was cared for...why did they fight to get him back when it's clear they didn't want anything to do with him?
As a drug addict myself these people make me sick. I've struggled with addiction my entire adult life and I've never hurt anybody. Drugs don't make you behave this way.
@@lildebboston455 what a beautiful thing to say how very sweet! And thank you so much you made my day 💝💓 God bless you and yours too my friend! thank you for the kind words
Casey is a pathological liar and a sociopath so she would have had no problem answering questions with composure to cover her fallacies. It's her lawyer that saved her life.
A heartbreaking thought in this case is knowing the foster mother probably grieved for the baby more than his biological parents.
Also highlights the level of iq of those horrible parents. I mean how did they not think wat they were saying would be heard!
The POS *"parents"* only grieved for themselves because their sorry worthless asses were guiltier than sin
Baby Dylan should have remained with the foster mom until the parents remained sober for period of time. CPS/social workers in my opinion can be so dense when it comes to abbusive/drug addict parents by giving them the child/ren so fast. Such a deeply sad story.
They should have just let the foster mom keep him. I don’t understand why they wanted that baby back if they didn’t want to live him and care for him. It makes no sense. They had a loving person more than willing to keep him and raise him. Why didn’t they just let her keep him?
💯 the only grief these bio parents show is for themselves
That prosecutor went above and beyond. That wasn't just her doing her job, that was some real, human emotion, and I respect that.
she said it like it was, no sob story in the world was going to get past the fury she felt. when she lift the item they buried that poor baby in I got madder than I been in a long time and sad at the same time too....good job prosecutor I applaud you and the job well done. I thought for a second she was gonna throw it at them she was p.o. just holding it and probably disgusted too.
I applaud that prosecutor! She was that baby's avenger! I am in tears!!
She’s a hero for that baby.
So bias?
@@wendijoe2793 🤔
The medical examiner in this case was amazing. She spoke clearly and concisely, not using medical jargon so everyone could understand. I appreciate that
I agree. She was very composed too so that people could understand her. Which would be so hard in this case
The detectives and whole prosecution team were awesome in this case and trial!
I enjoyed watching her testimony as well.
What’s a crick? Is that like a creek?
@@thefranchize3445 Yeah, crick is creek.
That female prosecutor got to express the anger everyone else was feeling and she did it wonderfully
She was a huge advocate for that baby.
We love Julie, she’s a badass. She definitely made Jessica regret getting on that stand. 🤣
When is CPS going to be held accountable for these situations? They didn’t perform the weekly check ins. They didn’t even drug test the dad. If they had left Dylan with the foster mom, he would still be alive.
The lawmakers who vote for laws and money won't fund or authorize CPS organizations because there's no votes in it. The victims can't vote and the perpetrators are usually scumbags that most voters can't or won't identify with. Money needs to go to more important things, like showy projects that can get on the news and be used in campaign ads. It's all about the money.
Hey pal, when they properly fund cps then you can blame them.
@@TheRealLachlan exactly!
They did drug test the dad multiple times. He was bringing his kids urine and his 15 year old son testified to it
You have to consider the type who get into that line of work to begin with. It's usually purple haired feminists who have a gender studies degree, and 3 or 4 abortions they're proud of, that they list in their twitter bio next to their blue checkmark.
To Dylan's beautiful foster mama, thank you for showing Dylan what love and kindness was, and to the amazing lawyer, thank you for giving Dylan a voice and fighting for him. You are both angels xx
i dont get how the foster parents didnt notice the bruises or any marks or anything as a matter of fact?!
💯👍 Amen! May baby Dylan's soul rest in peace in the arms of Holy Mary mother of 🙏
@@sylvaindescoteaux4208 The abuse occurred after he was removed from his foster mother, as a matter of fact,
Amen to that. You put it so well. Will God forgive them? That woman will go to prison and do you know what female prisoners do to child killers? That Foster angel deserved better from the authorities, she was wonderful. And bless you for your comment 🙏❤
@@alan-dx2zfwoman? both parents were on trial
The way she completely stopped crying or being emotional on the stand because the prosecutor pissed her off was so, so telling
Jurors saw the hateful, rageful, and belligerent Jessica and it was no wonder they found her guilty on all counts.
Hello! Jesus Christ, it was a sheet dropping. Way to go lady, you just proved how evil you are. Shivers!
There were no tears anyway, she spends most of her time just making noise
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16❤️
@@oliviagrace2246 if that helps you sleep at night
You can hear the prosecutor's anger loud and clear in this one. She made it clear what she thought of them. Respect.
I wonder if she has kids of her own.
@@whatsanenigmaThat's not necessary.
I know many people think having unprotected intercourse somehow gives people a better moral compass but videos like this kinda prove them wrong, I'd say lol
Anyone with a functioning moral compass gets angry at stuff like this. Hell, I don't even like kids or get emotional easily but parents like those two infuriate me.
Children suffering because of adult bs is something that will always make me angry, they're innocent and deserve better.
@@comedicsociopathy You're right, it's not necessary. And I haven't seen how this prosecutor handles other cases. I just get a mother vibe from her. I could be wrong though. But of course you're right, anybody can, and really should, feel like that, I've just never seen a prosecutor that intense, so I wonder.
I live in southern Ohio. 6 1/2 years ago our next door neighbor had a baby girl, born 1 month early. The mother was a addict. She was constantly asking for help, money or anything else that she wanted. By the end of the 2nd week, that baby girl spent at least 3 days with us. The following week it was 5 days. We talked to CPS, to the sheriff's department, but taking a child away from the bio parents in Ohio is a long drawn out process. We weren't foster parents. But, CPS had already met my better half and talked to her almost daily, and before long the neighbor girl and CPS asked if we would take the baby. We got emergency certification as temporary foster parents in two days. This little girl was tiny. We both are on our 2nd go around and both have grown kids and I already have 5 grandkids. There was hesitation but knew we couldn't let this child stay with the mother. She eventually started thriving after about one to two months old and hasn't looked back. When she turned 3, the bio mom got caught receiving tax credits for the little girl along with other charges. She was sent to rehab. After she got out, she decided she wanted her baby back. She had already spent the first 3 years of her life with us. There was nothing we could do since we're no relation so we just did everything we could to accommodate and help the mother. Obviously, it wasn't easy. It's like losing your own child by this point. We watched for 11 months as this "mother" and her new boyfriend tried to raise three kids all under 5, while being addicted to several drugs. She lost custody again after 9 months. The little girl went to get grandma who had previously taken no steps to help. She keeps her fur about 6 months. That was 3 1/2 years ago and tiger little girl is back with us permanently. In the spring we can adopt and we plan to. The state bends over backwards to get children back to parents. To the point of harming children. The alternative is a foster system that is overwhelmed and under staffed. Neither of us had ever attempted to be foster parents before. It just fell into our laps. But I will say, I am glad it happened. Hopefully with time, our little girl will heal from the knowledge of having a family who have either failed or rejected keeping her. She's got a great children's therapist that she sees weekly and is slowly getting past it. But, she's still thriving. She's almost 7 but thinks she's 17 and a bundle of energy. Try the foster system. You might serve a child.
Peace ✌️
Bless you and yours for your generosity and being that girl's true family. Your story is making me tear up. I hope you and your family are blessed forever. You truly saved someone's life. 💗
Dude that is amazing!!!
You guys are amazing. Thank god there are people like you in the world. It’s people like you that make the world a better place
I wish you could have lived next door to my mom. I always wished someone would save me. You and your wife sound like incredible people 💕❤️☺️
Thank you, the world needs more people like you. Wishing you all happy and healthy lives. Unfortunately drugs is big business and big money to forces we will maybe find out more one day and addiction an illness,xwe who don't fall prey to this evil trade are so lucky.
The distain our Narrator has for this story is felt wholeheartedly. The genuine disgust we all feel is summed up perfectly by his tone and context.
Yes 🙌🏽 he can tell a story so we’ll ya can tell he’s trying to hold back his emotions
@@miarobinson847 right, I could never professionally narrate cases like this. I would just be reading off part of script and lose track and start cussing and venting, when I listen to some of these I have to stop sometimes just to voice my anger against these types of - ahem cough cough *Monsters*
I think you mean "disdain". There is no such word as "distain".
@@WindDancer435 Yeah there is... I put my undies in the wash because I needed to remove "distain"! ;)
Giving a child back to parents with history of drug use... and then everyone is surprised when he ends up dead?
I had a friend who was a drug addict in high school, he stole from me and ever since then I've had real hatred for drug addicts. Don't telll me its a sickness, it's not... drug addicts are sociopaths who only care about themselves.
That female prosecutor was a bulldog. I usually can’t stand when the attorneys start yelling but this time it was deserved and she did a hell of a job. You can tell she had emotion in it and wanted to take those two scumbags down.
Ageee 100%
LOVED her !
When it's manufactured drama I'm not a fan; this woman was truly outraged by the defendant's actions and it showed. The jury definitely felt it too..
David Bowie is god.
Listening to her utterly tear into that monster was so cathartic that it got me through the episode, this was a really hard one to watch
And Jodie Arias' prosecutor ♥️
As a mother of a firefighter, having to watch them extract that from that well put a huge lump in my throat and a big sick feeling in my stomach... I pray my son never sees anything like this 😢 bless these firefighters hearts I can only imagine
that prosecutor is a legend. she wasn’t taking no shit from jessica’s sob story
Do you like milk in your tea?
@@teo5836 i see what you did there
@@teo5836 do you like meth in your milk?
i think she did a great job but for some reason i couldn't help but cringe when she raised her voice...
Right
Being a parent is a huge privilege. My 27 year old son is coming over tomorrow for a haircut, and I can’t wait to see him. It’s a privilege to be called Mum, or Dad. These two are disgraceful. Disgraceful human beings.
I haven't spoken to my dad in 11 months 💔
Time to call my mum 💕
@@Kiefsti just called my mum before clicking on this
can you give me a haircut?
🙌🏾🙌🏾❤️
I love your narration, that “fuck you” was so satisfying. Saves me from having to yell it at my screen myself. Appreciate you my dude.
Truth!
Ended up still shouting "fuck ya" in an empty parking lot only to get one back cuz theres some weirdo sitting in his car at 4am. Kinda funny kinda feel bad. Still would do it again cuz fuck these people.
My favorite narration was from the Ronnie O’Neal III case…. ‘BOOM! Evidence!’ This is definitely my favorite channel!!! 😂🤣😂🤣
@@Kris-wo4pj lol! But damn be careful hun ! Sounds a lil sketchy there
@@Kris-wo4pj lol be careful though
Abuse born addicted that go through withdrawal are the saddest thing ever. A hospital in my city Called Jefferson actually has a program where you can sign up to cuddle the little babies that are going through it.
You know the doctors and nurses do everything they can do medically but don’t have the time to rock each lil baby. It’s SO sad.
All these comments I'm reading thru, and this is the one that broke my emotions at work 😢
This couple did not want Dylan. They just didn't want anyone else to have him. The foster mom was wonderful.
For some reason, our family courts believe parents have the right to possess their children...until they get school age & then the schools tell us what rights we have, depending on the state you live in. They always err on the side of the parents!
I believe you can see the jealousy in their faces whenever she testifies about how the community came together to provide for him.. they are narcissistic monsters, imo
These two didn't want anyone except each other
They probably wanted him for some economic gain like food stamps or some other benefit.
They wanted the free money and food stamps not the baby
"How did you cause those injuries?"
"I don't remember."
*"Then how do you remember it was an accident?"*
They all don't flippin remember... It was a fog, I'm not sure!
Checkmate
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My Aunt used to foster kids. Her last placement was with an infant named Willie. He was born addicted and cried non-stop for the first two months. I bought her the softest clothes and blankets to wrap him in. The poor little guy was crawling out of his skin and it seemed everything that touched him hurt. Then when he was around 2.5 months old he settled in. He started to flourish. When he was around 18 months or so my Aunt was told he was getting a "kinship foster" placement. She questioned the caseworker because my Aunt had been told that Willie had no viable family which was why he was originally placed with her. To make a long and sad story short, the state of AZ placed him with the bio Dad's ex-gf. In my mind, an ex-gf is NOT kin. The ex-gf and the bio parents were cahoots. The bio parents told the ex-gf she could keep half of the foster care checks and they would take the baby. Willie died of blunt force trauma 18 days after he left my Aunt. She never did foster care again and she hasn't been the same since.
The thing is social workers are pressured to perform just like any other job. They are pressured to place kids in "kinship" placements and are in a hurry to clear their cases. They have performance reviews and these "stats" matter. I believe this is because a huge portion of our foster care system is privatized. The government uses state and federal taxpayer funds to pay private FOR PROFIT companies to find foster parents, monitor foster homes including group homes- in fact, MOST group homes are run by FOR PROFIT companies.
I don't think FOR PROFIT companies should be in the business of caring for our most vulnerable. People and Profit never end well. You have to ask yourself if these companies are in the business of making money off of people then what is their motivation to get these kids out of the system? This is why SOOOO many kids who end up in group homes go directly to Juvi and then Jail and then prison. They have been institutionalized from day one.
If you ever want to go down a rabbit hole- look into foster to group to juvi. Most of the companies that run one, run the others. I once spent way too long looking into who sat on the boards of these private companies that work in foster care and I found that A LOT of the people that sat on the board, also sat on the board of private for-profit prisons. I never say "private business" anymore. I always say "FOR PROFIT company." That way it reminds everyone that profit is being made.
Anyways. If you read this overly long post - light a candle and say Willie's name so that he isn't forgotten and may live on in some way.
Thank you for taking the time to write such an eloquent, and moving comment, that was clearly heartfelt. I know words are cheap, but may I send my sorrow for you, your absolutely incredible Aunt, and, of course, Baby Willie (which I hope a flight of angels took him to his rest, and to be counted amongst their own ...) ...
I agree with you: having being involved with social services, both inactive, and active, participant, that combination of having to meet expectations, plus chronic underfunding, means that removing a child completely from a family of origin is only done as an absolute last resort. Otherwise, the intense pressure, from above, means that, even if their instincts is to remove the child as far away as possible, given being placed in a no-win situation, and despite all of the red flags, they are often forced to do the unthinkable.
On top of that, is the caseload; due to the lack of staff, the average Social Worker often has far too many, and, often, individually, very complex cases, which the have to constantly manage, like plate spinning.
Given, again, the chronic underfunding, and that Social Work is seen as a high-risk, low-reward, career, with so few employed, with so little appropriate training, and pay far too low for the job that they do, it's no wonder that history of child deaths, at the hands of their own parents, especially the mother's, keeps happening, repeatedly, especially when multiple agencies are involved, and are unable to coordinate properly.
Child protection shouldn't just be seen as a matter for the States alone, but also a Federal one, too, especially as when the families under suspicion, keeps moving from one State to another. Just moving across a State line, with similar complaints following them, at that point, something Federal, concerning child welfare, and protection, should swing into place, and seen not just as felonies, but capital crimes, as well, especially if one, or more, child deaths is attributed to them.
If found guilty, through a unanimous verdict, and depending on the extent of the abuse, even if they plead guilty, as a priority plea deal, the tarrif of sentencing should begin with 25 years, and upto, and including, Life, without Parole, especially to be carried out in solitary confinement, in a maximum security prison.
I say solitary confinement, because, due to the testimony of former hostages, especially ones captured in Beruit, solitary confinement, for them, was like "being buried alive" ...
I still remember be taken to a famous castle, in Northern England, where, in the dungeon, and separated from the rest by a something of a wall, was a hole in the ground that stretched horizontally, and covered by a small, square, locked, grate, illuminated by a single halogen lamp. There is a name for it, but essentially, once the prisoner was slid into this thing, with the face staring upwards into the gloom of that dungeon, through those iron bars, of that grate, hearing the screams of the tortured, and essentially forgotten about (which is almost what the name of that hole means), with only occasional meals, the combination of dehydration, starvation, and, of course, forced to lay in not only their own excrement, but also that of the prisoners before them, meant disease, and death, was likely.
Granted, that is now considered a cruel and unusual punishment, if not torture, and is banned as such ...
... but locked up, by, and with, oneself, especially for someone whom thrives on company, and left alone with one's own thoughts, having to face their own daemons, 23hrs, everyday, with only 1 hour of unscheduled exercise outside that cell, for years, if not decades, for extroverts, in particular, all of that will eat away at them.
So, quite aside from the Innocents Project, which finds a few too many incorrectly convicted individuals on Death Row, why I think Capital Punishment should be restricted to Life without Parole, is because a death sentence, especially by lethal injection (which is only one step furthest away from a General Anesthetic, especially in some highly difficult surgeries ...), that is almost too swift. To be forced to live out their lives, in a cell, especially as they age, is, to me, a far worse a punishment.
In case of this ... mother ... to be locked away in a relatively small room, would, hopefully, give her an idea of being trapped inside those two crates, which, had Baby Dylan not been found, would've been his coffin for eternity ... so let both those two 'parents' experience that, each, seperated, and alone, from each other ...
Rest in peace Willie x Dylan x 💔
My heart breaks for your aunt 💔
😢
I remember that case... I hate Arizona child protective services they abuse the children they take on and place them into worse homes or back with the parents they were taken from.
The system totally failed this precious baby! 💔
It happens a lot in America...
His parents failed this baby
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The prosecutor was tolerating no bull from Jessica. I admire how well she did her job
Power woman
Yasss!!
SAME!
She was kind.of corny... She could have been more hostile and less theatrical...
Undoubdtedly a mom.
I can’t imagine the heartbreak of the foster mother who dedicated herself to caring for a newborn going through withdrawals. All the love her friends & family showered on that sweet baby to save him. Laws need to be changed & I wish more decent people would become foster parents. Too many people do it for the money.
Thst shit pissed me off. That woman wanted that little baby. She was ready. She deserved him and he deserved her.
so so true, I stated that as well in my comment and she's gonna be suffering her entire life because of it. questioning herself and the child services for their stupidity of returning that baby to known drug addicts. my heart goes out to her and the people involved in this case.
I saw a partial interview from her. Broke my heart all over again.
The days he spent with her were definitely the best days of his life. They failed him when he was returned to these monsters. Bless his sweet soul.
Her being on drugs did not cause that. She knew what she was doing.
she has the nerve to say "you have devoured my family" after herself being the literal person who smashed her newborn to death
Jessica devoured her family by her callousness, drug use, and murder of her infant son.
The audacity
Narcissists are like that.
@macca au You've done, not what you typed.
@macca au Nope.
I'm a father of a little girl who's under a year old, and the testimony about his broken bones made me cry my eyes out. How could you do this to a baby?
I am a recovering addict and know first hand how strong the hold and influence of addiction can be. That being said, NEVER at any point, regardless of how deep your addiction runs, do you magically lose the knowledge of right and wrong. Sure, it can sink you into an abyss of desperation, which can definitely make you do things you wouldn’t normally even consider (like stealing or pawning valuables etc). It doesn’t turn your brain off though. It doesn’t erase all morals. They were monsters before drugs entered the picture. The drugs just lifted the layers of deception they surrounded themselves in so people wouldn’t know who they really were. Drugs are not an excuse for unacceptable behavior. Take it from an addict.
It does make u short tempered and agitated when withdrawing tho
Well said 👏
@@noeldarby1635 that still doesnt mean you can project that onto other people who arent responsible for your addiction.
@@sweetnightingale85 absolutely agree with you
depends on the drugs mate. a dude cut his on dong off , cooked and ate it... and how many people jump off buildings.
Props to that foster mother though. She recognized her gift for being a mother and wanted to help more children than her own. Multiple times.
it's always the non-parents that i feel the worst for in these stories. hearing how her support system was able to get the house ready in ONE day almost broke me... that baby would have had everything. how the system can decide that blood means absolutely anything in these situations is beyond me.
@@nataliew409 100% that baby would have been loved by an entire village, as children should... sickening case. Blood is not always thicker than water
@@PoptartParasol
"The Blood of the Covenant is thicker than the Water of the Womb" ...
In my case, the person whom is a close friend, is only a few years older than me, yet he and his wife are more like parents to me, than all of my paternal and maternal families, including my birth parents, combined ...
... with the exception of my younger sister, I feel like I don't have family ...
Funny thing: you can attack me any which way ...
... but go after my sister, and you have me, and Hell, coming after you ...
The foster mom would have given him a blessed life. CPS is so messed up.
Its a corrupt system. Back home in NC in the 00's there was a crack family that CPS took the kids from. After one clean drug test they gave the kids back only for the parents to go on a crack binge and beat their babies to death. CPS hounds decent parents while leaving the worst scum alone. Its unjust and may God have mercy on those corrupt bastards. I've seen so many horrors while working the ER that I've lost faith in our legal system.
So sad.. what's also sad that this is nothing new.
How could this happen ? 😭
You're right about CPS. Many many children have been lost because they don't really care enough.
Cps is at the mercy of court orders y’all realize that right? Ultimately it was a court order that returned the baby to them
The REAL HERO here is the foster mother that was willing to set aside her own life to raise & love this precious boy ❤
@@kimemerson4608what does that have to do with anything, ur sounding real foolish
@@Robbinbird7 the baby had family. Once said and done one of the family members would have taken him. He Aunts and Uncles
That prosecutor’s righteous fury for Dylan’s death and his parents’ utter callousness brought me to *tears* - what an absolute CHAMPION
I don't know why these people didn't just leave the baby with the foster mother. That would've been a sign of some generosity by giving the baby a chance to have a better life.
You cannot endow someone with a conscience. They either have one, or don't.
They probably saw the foster program as stealing their "property". Drug addicts get defensive about having anything or anyone taken away from them...plus, they take it as a threat to see someone else raise their baby better than them.
@TheDude Lebowski exactly. Welfare payments are the only reason they want them.
Well- it is so hurtful to watch, but it does confirm that Dylan was in fact loved so very much by someone, and cared for with love, if only for the shortest wee while ruclips.net/video/EQB7pEKEQyo/видео.html
I've worked in welfare with parents who had kids removed. They were people who were generally quite mentally compromised, lower iq than normal. They treated their children like objects that had been stolen. They considered the departments demands they have money, a home and not be doing drugs before getting their kids back way too much to ask. One woman said she learned through a parenting course that she didn't own her child, this was a revelation for her. They will fight to get a baby back when they can't even look after themselves, their brains just don't work properly. The consideration that the child is an object that should serve them somehow and has no needs of their own leads directly to abuse and their ability to learn how to behave differently is quite low.
The moment the prosecutor lifted the crates to drive home her point...brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for representing Dylan. Thank you for being his voice. Rest in peace little one.
The prosecutor was such a boss!! "This is what they chose for a coffin and his burial? This?!?" That quote brought chills and tears to my eyes. What a horrific and disrespectful way to lay your own child to rest.
Get a grip on your emotions then
@@realtacobell shut up, troll
@@lady_v_ gd
Mine too.... I can't imagine her having to live after prosecuting that case. You could tell she was not only passionate about her job, but how much this was affecting her as well. RIP baby Dylan! May GOD have mercy on the souls of those so-called parents.
The one I feel sorry for is the foster mother that gave Dylan care, love and everything that he needed.
She had the baby from birth to only about 10 days before they gave him back to dad. All injuries happened after that. 😢
The prosecutor's raw rage was powerful, she was epic.
Yes we should all be that angry! The murder of this newborn is inconceivable!
She was amazing. She's not there to make money. She cares.
Yet conservatives want to let employers determine if women can get birth control. In Texas your Neighbor can sue a cab driver who drives you to an abortion clinic . If women weren’t coerced into having babies they don’t want their would be less child abuse. That coercion also includes continually telling little girls that they should be wives and mothers.
@@dancingnature What? This wasn't a birth control issue? This was failure of the the social worker for not examining the child properly and not listening to the foster parent. 😑 Since your talking about abortion, what difference is it if the baby is tortured to death in the womb rather than outside the womb? Make it make sense.
@dancingnature ..
yeah, the crack rage had nothing to do with it 🤦🏻♀️
smh .. jessica groves was an angry crack head and as for danny boy, he was too pussy to help his baby - this case has nothing to do with abortion
"I have to live with this for the rest of my life." okay honey, but you get to live. Maybe you should have thought of that before beating a newborn to death.
The Foster mother was a beautiful soul and I hope she goes on to help more kids from situations like these. She's a human incarnation of an angel and I have so much respect for her, and also the BA prosecutor. Ooo she was on fire.
I worked with a patient like that who thankfully had her kids taken away before anything worse happened. She got their names tattooed on her and everything. Even with all that, she refused to even try to be a worthy mother. She would cry about wanting her kids back but when I asked her plans of earning them back she would just give me a smile. I had built rapport with her so even she was willing to "admit" to at least a small bit of her bs. It wasn't the drugs that made her like that either, she was sober at that point because she was locked down basically. There's a lot of "mothers" like this, and I find that they create more of themselves if the child gets to live. The vast majority of mentally ill patients and trauma survivors are not like that. But when you meet one that is it's chilling. We need more foster mothers like the one in the video, and an overhaul of how we handle childcare, this is just unacceptable.
Babushka isn't that the dance from the Addams family movie. 😁
Nevermind that was the mamushka lol
My daughter works in the field, the burnout is so high all you can do is be there for them
Bro she's bluffing all of y'all, both of them are big fat liars
I've been sober over 10 years. Knowing how HORRIBLE withdrawals are and thinking of a newborn baby going through them thoroughly breaks my heart. What absolute wastes of skin.
Me too, me too. I couldn’t even imagine what that would be like being your very first days on earth. It’s just terrible.
Well, 3 years for me! But I def feel the same.
@@christinafidance340 High five on 3 years!! Congratulations and you should be proud of yourself!
It's only been just over a year for me, but those were some of the worst days of my life. No way I could imagine a newborn having to deal with that horrible shit.
@@danielledalton6722 Completely agreed. To not even be able to voice how miserable withdrawls are, to be so completely helpless is...there just isn't any words.
Also, "only" over a year is short changing yourself. Each day of your year is a HUGE, remarkable accomplishment! I'm certain based on the compassion I've seen in this thread that we will all keep our sobriety going.
Props to that prosecutor! She did an amazing job of really stressing the emotional part of it. So heart breaking.
We need more women attorneys like this. God bless her.
@Brandon Boggs why do u have to ask dum questions? .-.
@Brandon Boggs imo, they do not have to be women. but the fact that she is a woman is awesome.
Agreed! Simple as that.
That lawyer was badass. She struck the perfect balance of passion. Righteous rage and professionality. It was both cathartic and heartbreaking.
He said "cathartic"... God bless ya.
That attorney gave me chills! You can tell it became personal for her - but how could it not? I pray that she feels peace knowing that she found justice for Dylan!
You could hear her holding back tears at the end of her closing argument 😭
WHO BEATS A BABY!!?? Seriously who can even hit a baby or hurt a baby or child in any way!!?? Jesus?!! That behavior has NOTHING to do with drugs!!!!
Exactly!!!!! Drugs are not an excuse!
That prosecutor is the G.O.A.T. She managed to perfectly counter Jessica's meandering bullshit, and god, you can *hear* the disgust in her voice. This is a hard episode to watch as someone who's grown up with baby siblings.
I watched most of the trial a year ago, yes that prosecutor destroyed her on the stand!👏👏
I thought she kinda ruined the whole video 🤷🏻♂️
@@Saakk129 I agree.. I was washing dishes as I listened and she seemed a bit hysterical to me.. as a prosecutor.. I would expect her to have control over her emotional state while presenting her case.. but.. that's just me I guess.. lol
@@Saakk129 no she didn't. She was doing her job lol
@@nonyabidnazz7487 Unbelievable. If it was a male prosecutor, would he be "hysterical" or aggressive?
The *insane* part is THAT BABY COULD'VE BEEN ADOPTED TO AMAZING PARENTS!!
*WHY* would they not let him go, only to do *this??*
Because the professionals, the know it alls, believe that the parents are the best people to care for an innocent child.
@@treaty8631 I'm speaking about the parents though. *Why* keep that baby if they hate it??
Could have aborted or given it to parents who would've adored her. It is better for children to be with parents; if the parents actually want the baby. I don't get these m_r_ns points in doing this?
@@TradBarbie no doubt the parents get welfare (drug) money for the baby.
@@treaty8631 the parents usually are
@@kelseylandon1224 thank you! Imagine thinking the state is better than most parents 😂
When the woman was listing the injuries of the baby it broke my heart. As a uncle that would do anything for his niece and nephews it really deeply pains me to hear this. They deserve to die slow and painful
Right. I'm an aunty and i feel the same. I can't even fathom this
Exactly!
I agree. My sister had the same problem. Oh yeah she still does. I had custody of my nieces while they were toddlers... and most of their Teenage life.... and now they are team Mommy... my oldest niece last year was talking about a friend of theirs that have been clean for 8 months have messed up... They said they were done with her. I said well your mother's a drug addict. I got scream that so bad that my mommy is a functioning drug addict. I do believe that is oxymoron. She has been doing methamphetamine since she was 17 years old. She is 53. I tell her you have outlived your lifestyle.
I’m a mommy and auntie and I can’t stomach the fact someone can do this to a child. God why did they even fight to get him back if they didn’t want him? The foster mom loved him and would’ve given him a great life.
My nephew was born on August 27th and I would gladly go to prison if it meant protecting him.
Dylan's descriptions, autopsy and treatment during his short life, brings tears to my eyes.
They looked like they were hardcore into their addiction when they were arrested. That baby never had a chance. It's unbelievable that social services would return a baby that was born drug dependent to the parents with the addiction so they could finish him off.
The system fails abused children every single day. They waste all of their energy chasing down good parents that disciplined their child and neglect legit abuse. It’s heartbreaking
Babies aren’t born addicted. They’re born dependent. A baby can’t be addicted. By definition addiction has certain behaviors that babies cannot do. They don’t jump out of the womb, cal their dealer and steal money from mom and dad on the way to their dealer. They can’t even take the drugs themselves.
Saying addicted babies adds to the stigma and these kids don’t need that.
@@lessthanxthreebeauty by definition addiction is the fact or condition of being addicted to a certain substance OR activity ..... dependance is the state of relying on or being controlled by someone or something ...... they are not dependent on it as they can live without it, albeit with adverse reactions....
"DOES THIS LOOK LIKE PANIC TO YOU?!"
Man, that sent a chill up my spine. RIP, Dylan. I hope your parents get what's coming to them in prison.
@K DALLAS I couldn't imagine having to see something like that, omg.. I will never understand how anyone could do this to their child? I couldn't do what you do.... having your heart ripped out every time.. I pray God helps you deal with it.. ❤
@K DALLAS thank you for your reply... I will never understand why they would put a defenseless child at risk? And omg after he drives his truck into water with the child ? I can't.... people like that should NEVER be able to have children, I'm sure that poor baby wakes up on eggshells every day... I have unfortunately only seen a dead child one time in my life... when I was 14 my mom and dad and I were on vacation and we had our rv in a campground for the night. They had a lake for swimming and a mother had walked into the lake with her kids and the undertow swept both the kids up and she got a hold of one of them, the little girl wasn't found till 4 hours later 😥 there must have been 5 men trying to hold this mother down,she was hysterical... the little girl was ghost white and lying there,my mother, dad and I were crying our eyes out... that scene haunted me. So many times I thought of that lady and how every year on her child's birthday she had to remember that...how heartbreaking 😥 I've been a caregiving for about 35 years now and I took care of severely and profound children for a few of those years. I have seen the results of a child who's parents, surely on a bender have destroyed their child's life.... I will never get it. .. I'm glad there's people like you, this world has become so evil it's nice to see some hope that there are good people left so thank you...❤ it's just a shame that situation even exists 😔
@K DALLAS that is the sickest thing ever.... sick ass human beings that like little kids🤮🤮 they will rot in hell! Drugs are evil.. it can take a perfectly good person and change them into someone else.. I am all for those who have changed their lives for the better but for the others, it makes them a pos human.. it's one thing to smoke some weed but another if you're pimping out a child to pay for your fix... I DESPISE those people the most...
Agree and killing your own child is not top on the list in prison.
@K DALLAS I have to shut out all the evil crap going on sometimes, it's just so hard to listen to. All the evil things in the world are now tenfold and it just gets worse every day unfortunately... I figure as long as those of us that are all fighting the good fight ,we make our stand against evil. As a victim of child sexual abuse myself, I know what an impact it has on your life.... the idea of keeping your faith and not letting it tear you apart is how you conquer it, having a strong mind is everything 💪 ❤
I really feel like the foster mom would've adopted this child and he would have had a beautiful life.....but instead he was given back to monsters. Its so sad. While I dont believe drug addicts should be written off... I do believe they should have to go through a million hoops to get their kids back once they're taken. I'm not religious but if there is a hell, they're gonna be in the darkest pits of it. This is so sick.
Exactly, if they didn't want the kid, why not let someone else raise it?. And there is a hell and I feel sorry for what they will face in the next life
Happens more then u know children giving back to there parents and taken away again and placed with DIFFERENT FOSTER FAMILYS THE SYSTEM IS BS REALLY IS
I was a drug addicted Dad for a few years and left on my own because I knew my baby girl did not need to be around my lifestyle. It was so hard for me to except that I could not be a good father at that time. Luckily I had a beautiful, amazing wife that has never done a drug in her life…..my baby girl was safe. I went to treatment and got help and I’ve been clean for eight years now. My daughter is 11 and we are all back together and have three more children.
My little girl saved my life because she is the reason I got help. These parents can’t even except the fact that they failed her child. “It was an accident “, it is such bullshit….
You don’t accidentally drop your child enough times to cause all those broken bones and not realize you did that. I don’t care what drugs you were on, you know what you do in those moments and you have to take responsibility for yourself.
drug addiction can absolutely turn you into a narcissist
I agree with everything you said
I wonder sometimes who is more incompetent: parents who have no business being parents or department of child services. Unfortunately, I’ve seen this first person. The entire system needs a serious overhaul.
The passion and righteous rage of that prosecutor gave me chills. She was on fire.
Wish she could be the attorney on the Alexee trevizo càse. She'd have them done and convicted of murder in no time !!
Compliments to her for not letting the mother whimper instead of answer.
@@joygraybill4444 I'd Love to see her on that case too. Her and her Mom think that they have some high profile attorney that's going to get her off. This DA her would chew them all up and spit them out like they were nothing. What a shame she couldn't be there.
she's a hero, fr. she fought for that baby. she was his voice.
This one was tough to get through. Anyone who kills a baby deserves the worst in life.
Their life is forfeit, imo.
Absolutely!!
Does that include abortion??
SPOILER ALERT!!(friendly reminder)
@@EazytheNDAcaptain This couple are a great case *for* abortion. (People who don't support the right to choose are guaranteeing that unwanted and abused children end up in our society which repeat precisely this cycle. This has been shown scientifically, regardless of what our personal beliefs might teach.)
Child services are a major problem here but there are only so many foster parents and resources to take care of them.
And so much for the war on drugs, right?
“How did you cause this injury?”
“I don’t remember”
“Then how do you remember it was an accident?”
Incredible.
0000
Boom.........Evidence!!!
Stacy Martinez - LOL! I just watched that one the other night, also a terribly sad case. Boom! Evidence! , lol that guy was absolutely nuts and thank goodness his son was a far better man than he ever was. True strength in adversity. This poor baby had no way to defend himself, so sad
i mean... i might not remember everything i've done but i'd remember for sure if i beat up a baby.
Thank you for bringing forth this content in a respectful manner
She doesn't feel guilt, she feels shame. Shame is when you are more upset that people are going to look at you badly rather then her understanding and feeling bad she murdered her child.
Yes, shame at being caught
absolutely. the way she gets aggressive when the prosecutor isn't having any of her tears is perfect back-up for this. if she was feeling guilty, those questions would have broken her down--not caused her to attack.
Spot on!
I wouldn't even say it's shame that she felt, I gathered that it was another sad ass attempt to "look" as though she was ashamed to gain some type of sympathy for her benefit, regarding to the jury, her sentencing or in the public eye. Very sociopathic like. She's truly pathetic, should be buried under the fucking prison.
I was always told in therapy that guilt is feeling like you did something bad, shame is feeling like you are bad. I think she feels neither of those. She doesn’t think she did anything bad, or that she is bad. She just thinks it’s too bad she got caught.
Most of the time in therapy people are feeling guilt and shame for things that aren’t their fault. In this case it’s the opposite. She doesn’t feel guilt and shame for things that are her fault.
That prosecutor wasn’t a prosecutor in this case. She was the voice of Dylan. He never had one. And I’m glad she went unfiltered. She’s bringing justice for a baby boy who didn’t deserve such cruelty. I salute you and thank you and anyone involved in this case for removing these things off the streets.
Well said darling,well said!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️
Agree!!! 👍 ❤
The words, "Oh fuck off," have never come out of our mouths so much as with this video. That prosecutor was amazing! Her fury at what they did, not letting up on Jessica, her cracking when describing Dillon's "grave"... I cried. I don't know how any decent human, especially parents, WOULDN'T.
I honestly hope both of them get daily beatings.
The dream shit ommfggd
That last line. Brilliant!
this story had me crying too :(
The prosecutor is unprofessional trash.
All prosecutors make every defendant look like the devil. Obviously you’ve never been accused of a crime. Count your blessings Laura
For a man who loves kids but was never able to have any, cases like this just make me sick. That poor infant soul. Thankfully he,ll never know what happened to him. Godspeed innocent child.
I believe we choose our lives on this earth and that we’ve had many incarnations of different kinds. Still, these types of stories are chilling. I have one child, and it physically pains me to see my child feeling sad. Especially during the baby stage, I remember being heavily medicated due to recovering from a C section and still my baby’s every need came before my own. It wasn’t even a thought, it was instinctive. And this from a person who had always planned on being child free. We’re biologically wired to nurture our kids, so people who don’t seem to be possessed by some dark entity or something. Truly eerie
this prosecutor was badass. She showed the raw emotion, the seriousness of the situation, and how disgusting this crime was. Good for her.
Generally I think a prosecutor shouldn’t show that much emotion but this situation is different and I don’t think she could help herself she was so pissed off.
Completely unprofessional and could have caused a mistrial. Yeah good for her.
She's waaaaaaaaaaay too emotional, what a fucking clown. Americans man XD hilarious
I’m on the fence with this one. She shouldn’t be this aggressive but at the same time, she’s probably a mother herself,
90% of us couldn’t do her job without wanting to beat the piss out of people like this, sometimes emotion just overrides professionalism
@@harryparsons2750 judge doesn't care
I have 2 sons that are exactly 18 months apart. My youngest cried for the first 6 months. It was frustrating and I was overwhelmed and sleep deprived. Not once did I ever injure my sons or "accidentally drop" them. What a bunch of bullshit. This is why some people should not be allowed to have children.
Sis! Same. My youngest is q5 months apart and sleepless nights and cries made me cry but I could NEVER Imagine doing what those trash bags did.
I sometimes miss the days of government sanctioned sterilization.
@@ungurdagda813 the people the govt sterize arent abusive parents, it's usually just based on racism. Right now it has been happening in immigrant detention centers. (Some of the people in those detention centers did follow the law allowing people to come seeking asylum, it must be said before anyone says "just don't break the law")
My son spent his first 6 months screaming due to (?) Cholic? Hunger ? Boredom ? He was born 23 1/2" long and only 7 lbs 15 Oz, and wanted to feed constantly. I nursed him as often as possible (he was 10 lbs 8 Oz at 3 weeks) and felt like I was going to vomit from exhaustion for all of that time. He slept for 3 minutes at a time and could remain awake for hours on that power-nap. Never EVER did I consider taking out any frustration on him ! Any sensible person would know that infancy is a finite period. (He's 28 and wonderful)
I watched my mom raise my three younger brothers. Two of them cried a LOT. They all woke up all hours of the night and didn't usually want to go back to bed. They frequently peed the bed once they were older, sometimes multiple times a night. My mom drank a lot then, took drugs at times, and she suffers from bipolar disorder, which sometimes led to pretty extreme fits of rage. She also suffers from severe migraines, which are crippling.
Even so, she stopped drinking and doing drugs cold turkey when she was pregnant, every single time. There was never the remotest chance she would have hit any of them, at any point, ever. Regardless of what else may have been going on. Crying at night was met with walking, rocking, and speaking gently, even when it was obvious she could barely keep her eyes open. There's really no excuse for these parents. Drug addiction doesn't mean you act like this, despite the ridiculous implication made in this video that all drug addicts abuse their kids. When you love your kids, you love your kids. These people are just totally fucked.
You want to foster? No prob. We'll just need a mental evaluation, a full physical, a home inspection for allergens, a drug test every day at noon, a DNA test from you and all your neighbors, a genetic test for all known diseases from all living members of your family tree, a minimum of a 3.8 GPA on your high school transcript, a fecal test from your first child's pediatrician, 300 hours community service and a level 6 security clearance.
Your baby was born an addict? Hey, things happen sometimes. Here's your baby! 👶
@Juu Vee Babies are born addicted when supplied drugs in vitro. They must detox, like an... addict. To ease the process of withdrawal, they may be humanely given medications to help that painful, terrible process. If you feel more emotionally secure in thinking that a baby is not an addict because the baby did not choose addiction for themselves, and therefore absolutely must comment something to *fix* my comment, then I must also comment that the point of my comment went over your head.
@Juu Vee I get you don't want to associate a baby being addicted to drugs to an adult being addicted to drugs but the effects on the body are still the same. I get what you mean though
💯💯💯Every single word of this!!!
As funny and exaggerated as this is, it's so true. I have seen it first hand and it's awful.
Babies aren’t born addicted. They’re born dependent. A baby can’t be addicted. By definition addiction has certain behaviors that babies cannot do. They don’t jump out of the womb, cal their dealer and steal money from mom and dad on the way to their dealer. They can’t even take the drugs themselves.
Saying addicted babies adds to the stigma and these kids don’t need that.
I've seen this case all over, but you gave me so much more coverage and information. Thank you. such a sad disturbing case they should never have gotten that baby back with drug testing.
The pain this tiny child went through is beyond comprehension. RIP little Angel 🙏🏿❤️
if you take a few moments to imagine yourself withstanding 2 skull fractures, rib fractures, arm and leg fractures, without any relief, over an extended period of time, you are still light years away from knowing how this tiny baby really felt. The relentless suffering was unfathomable. I weep over it whenever I come across this case. I mourn that their living son has to carry this horror as part of his life's experience. These two should NEVER leave prison, EVER.
I kept thinking the same thing. The pain he must have been in not being attended by a doctor every time he was picked up, moved or even breathed. And then for his life to end with more. I can’t comprehend.
Exactly!
ALL WHILE GOIMG THROUGH DRUG WITHDRAWLS AS AN INFANT! they cannot handle that like we can. Poor thing.
It breaks my heart, and makes my stomach churn!
Oh! They should leave, in a pine box!
That prosecutor needs a promotion. She is a zealous advocate for baby Dylan and shows her passion for justice and the truth.
Has no choice. It's her job to prosecute to the best of her ability. Same with the defense. Must defend and try to get your client found not guilty by the absolute best of your ability.
@@chelseapeters7187 what was the point of this comment... this lawyer was definitely more passionate than most and ur comment is not giving her credit for what? lol
The prosecutors emotions and the sense of rage literally sent chills down my spine. She did a passionate job making sure the baby gets justice. RIP baby Dylan
The prosecutor was amazing. She held Jessica's feet to the fire. Her closing was top tier. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I cried when I saw what they used to discard Dylan in and the length they went was mind blowing. 😭
That’s her job 😂 the state pays her 6 figures for that reason. Whether you did it or not she’ll paint you as the devil himself by exaggerating facts and making up a story.
@@Anonymous-lq2bs She didn’t have to “make up” anything. These babies should have NEVER been allowed to have that baby.
I totally agree..she was absolutely angry and horrified at these killers
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The prosecutor and the foster mom, two absolute rockstars!
It's crazy that they would let this little baby in the hands of theses ppl knowing there background 😡
The foster mother is an absolute Angel. Too bad Dylan couldn’t live with her. What a tragedy.
This happens often with DCS. It is ALWAYS their goal to reunify children with bio parents even when it is dangerous for the child. I have video and audio recordings of social workers saying this here in Nashville Tennessee. They are corrupt as fk. Total evil.
Thank you telling little Dylan’s story he deserves to be memorized even if it’s not by the people that were suppose to protect & love him 😢
Dylan would still be alive today if CPS had left him with his loving Foster mom. CPS is partly responsible for his death for taking him away from a safe loving home to a dangerous situation with known drug addicts.
@Over It lol have you ever heard of DynCorp?
Cps is just as guilty imo because they neglected to both do proper research and follow up with these obvious drug addicts. It happens a lot out there unfortunately.
I agree. Like they said in the beginning. A person who chooses to become a foster parent must go through so much training and classes. Yet, this vile man and woman were just handed their baby back. No drug tests. They test people who get out of jail for non violent crimes how often...
@@jennifersiegle7796 I don’t want to argue at all, but from what I recall from watching this trial, Daniel Groves used Daniel Jr’s urine to pass a drug test. I still believe that CPS failed this child drastically, but I know they would prefer to reunite their children than put them through the system.
This poor baby was failed all around.
@@jennifersiegle7796 There are many garbage foster parents.
Imagine hurting a child let alone an infant, let alone a premature sick baby. Wow. Just horrendous. Why can't evil people be sterile
She won’t be able to have kids now
A premature sick baby that they were responsible for making sick and probably premature as well.. These people are animals and do not deserve to breathe another single breath of air
Yes same for people who do abortions.
@K DALLAS wait a minute. She got them fired or they got themselves fired? Did they fall penis first into her repeatedly? 😒
@@tessaducek5601 not just "females" both men and women incapable of showing over to their child should be unable to have children
If the baby was bothering her so much, why didn't she just return him to his foster mother 🤬
How do you expect a baby to stop crying by seriously injuring it 🤦🏼♀️
Because then the foster mom would have "won". That's obviously not how it works, but wastes of space like Jessica don't see the world any other way.
Because the government gives them money every month for the baby... that’s why abusers fight for custody
They get PAID money that is why...
Because then they would lose their monthly drug money that is supposed to be being spent on the children. In Ontario, Canada, as far as I know for every child under 16 you get over $500.00 a month. When my child turned 14 I just started giving the baby bonus straight to them, anyone who knew this told me how stupid I was because my child lived with me and I had expenses. I just lived a little poorer, my child's whole life if they were with their father only ever got 2nd hand things,, they got their first real cell phone when they were I believe 17. Peace and much love sent from Ontario, Canada. P.S the guilt you have when your poor is horrendous.
A baby that she caused to have drugs in its system and going through withdrawals. Makes me sick. No empathy
My heart goes out to baby Dylan, the prosecution, and foster mom ❤
The foster mother was such an Angel. My heart breaks for her to this day. It’s so sad this this government’s CPS do less for children than this amazing woman.
The world is fucked it’s scary so so sad Anyway have a great day love from Scotland 🏴🤗❤️
@@TheBeepbeep2000 It really is, it’s a damn shame! Scotland seems to be a pretty nice place though. Enjoy your day! 💗💗💗
I know. I think of her often. Her grief is so strong and so unfair. She loved him completely. She would have given him such a wonderful life. 12 days she had him and loved him and then he was taken away to be offered up to that scum. I'm sure she's haunted by the whole tragedy, I hope she's not, but I think unfortunately she probably is. Bless her heart 💜
@@irishhoopers6899 She will get peace, maybe not today or tomorrow but one day she will. I pray she does not let this steal her joy. She is much too golden of a human being to have her joy stolen. 😢😢🙏🙏 If only this world was filled with more like her! 💔
That prosecutor has exactly the right energy for this. She's practically shrieking and I agree with her entirely.
Yep, she was probably the only person in Jessica's life to not let her off the hook and hold her accountable for what she did. She nows who and what shes dealing with and how to deal with such people. She ain't messin around! I cheered for her when she was grilling Jessica on the stand.
And as far as I'm concerned she can also grill CPS because once again, they screwed up and placed a baby back into a dangerous situation that they removed from before.
Things dont get better with hopeless drug addicts. They should have left Dylan with the foster mother where he was safe and loved.
Being a prosecutor is a job, and that pays money. And they are trying as best as they can to get the perpetrator convicted so that they are more likely to be chosen again for the job. And one of the ways is by adding emotion to be more convincing.
The lady prosecutor in complete fury still holding back - this is the justice system we all deserve, so powerful and beautiful in her righteous anger
For real. So visceral and raw. Not only can you feel what shes feeling but when you hear that kind of emotion in someone's voice, it taps into something inside you that's just so primal and real. She wasn't just angry, she hated these people. And honestly, so do I.
Whoa whoa whoa. I was on your side until you said "EVERY time there's a case of a drug addict getting their baby taken away, they fight tooth and nail to get them back only to turn around and kill them because they wouldn't stop crying". @26:33 Buddy, this is ONE case. Holy over-generalization to an entire population of already stigmatized people. Chill. 😳
“Looked for him for two months and finally called his employer?” Wow that’s some exhaustive searching
That's what I was thinking 🤔
Sure af isn't how they look for me in LA🤣😅😅😅
The CPS didn’t protect that baby either, Daniel employer’s wasn’t checked out throughly before they released the baby back to those MONSTERS!! I think they need to be held accountable as well!! Thanks to the Foster Mother & Father for giving precious baby Dylan 12 good days here on this planet!!
Yah they asked the 14yr old where his dad was, he didn't know so they just that minor go with the idea there was no responsible adult to be found
Yeah, I honestly find it strange that this video didn't take the time to point out that social services also failed spectacularly to protect the baby. Whether it was because of apathy (unlikely) or an overwhelmed system (very very likely), the Groves should NEVER have been allowed to keep Dylan. Not sure I'm going to watch any more videos on this channel if this is how the creator handles these sorts of complex issues.
It's heart breaking that the prosecutor loved baby Dylan more than his own parents.
The “none of these were required” segment is such a powerful truth on our many legal failures towards children in the US.
it bothers me so fucking much that you need a licence to fucking fish but any abusive idiot can pop out a kid and then they just have a right to it???
and its not just like that in the USA
Im german and I *literally* need LOADS more qualifications and training to do charity work, cleaning and doing housework for disabled people, a task I literally do every day at my own home anyway, than I would to have an entire fucking child and raise it
That is the most heated I've ever seen a prosecutor, and for good reason. There is so much tragedy here, baby Dylan above all. Addiction, which I assume both parents were, can and often does destroy lives and directly and peripherally, as in this case. This case is a good reminder that people need to seek treatment if they ever become addicted to drugs and or are using them regularly.
The recovery of his body, those images… oh. My ribs ache. Crushed by rocks, chained into a milk crate, dumped into the earth like he’s nothing… That poor baby.
Sickening to the highest degree….
I think Both parents need to meet Old Sparky ⚡️🪑⚡️
@@shannong2703
Nah. Death is too convenient for those degenerate.
They should be forced to stay in an empty cell, for the rest of their miserable lives, with nothing but Dylans image burned on every four walls to look at.
No company, no TV or radio, no newspaper or books. No stimulation other than the little boys autopsy pictures, to remind them why they are there.
Only the most basic meal, to keep them healthy and alive as long as possible!
No way out for those who hurt innocent children or animals.
Only misery and pain!
The little guy was gonna be fine with that nice lady!!! Sure he was going through withdrawals, bless his tiny heart. But he was safe. This is infuriating to me.
You’re so right. Makes me so angry to see how many times CPS fails innocent children and they end up dead.
@@shaahidacarr2605 cps is terrible..... too many young children die under their care...
@@shaahidacarr2605 I've seen the story on Netflix regarding Gabriel Hernandez. Man, these parents need a good beating. I'm not a violent person but some parents............
Yep...our system fails constantly
"How did you cause this injury?"
"I don't remember"
"Then how did you remember it was an accident?"
That prosecutor kicks so much ass i love her. Absolutely holding nothing back on these monsters
Her name is Julie. She was amazing!!
Truly I'm thankful I grew up in a loving and kind home.
Me, too! ❤❤❤
That prosecutor was 100% a mom herself. That was pure anger in her voice. Great job!
She remembers EVERYTHING, when she didn't have drugs, baby wouldn't stop crying BECAUSE HE HAS 25 BROKEN BONES, she murdered him, 100%. I believe Daniel is completely controlled and feared Jessica, so he let her beat him, didn't care much about anything but getting high. Glad Daniel Jr made it out unharmed. Anyone can get hooked on drugs. They can do exactly this, and it happens every day so please y'all be careful, and love ur kids, stop having them if u cannot care for them!!
That prosecutor is amazing. You can hear the passion in her voice to bring these people to justice. Several times it sounds like she’s gonna start crying out of anger towards the parents and sadness for the baby. And the way she was grilling the mother was fantastic. More prosecutors need to have her energy
Oh what this poor tiny helpless baby had to endure.this is heartwrenching😢
“I’m done talking to you” uhhhh that’s not how being questioned by a prosecutor for murdering your baby works
Actually it is. You don't have to say shit to prosecutors or testify at your own trial. That's your constitutional right.
@@jeleopardpopping in from the future to let you know you're incorrect
@@PsycheStar101 not incorrect in the United States. The 5th amendment protects against that, hence the phrase "I plead the 5th".
I do not know about other parts of the world, but that's entirely irrelevant because this case is in Ohio... which is in the United States.
Genius - letting them confer in the interview room. They played right into it 😂.
Pretty common police tactic. Just so funny that these idiots forget that they’re always being recorded
I saw a comment on the Justin ‘Ross’ Harris police interrogation which made me laugh despite the dark and terrible connotations.
Ross fake-cried, auto-hyperventilated, and stopped to swig water for around 45 min before the police came in, trying to give himself credibility by ‘crying’ on-camera.
The comment was “if I were the cops, I’d have let him do his fake crying show for the 45 minutes, then, walk in and say ‘Hi, Mr Harris, we’re going to turn the cameras on now…’ “
I love this prosecutor! I’ve never heard such passion and anger, she’s a legend 🙏❤️
Absolutely. I wish it was possible she coulld be the prosecution on all cases of this nature
She's amazing!
Amazing!!! I felt her anger through the screen!
Yes, same here.She feel every word she speaks. Great women!
Agreed. I've no doubt that she probably will have nightmares about this horrible case for years and years.
This medical examiner is awesome, she talks in a way that all of us can understand what she’s saying. Bless the foster family, I wish they could’ve kept Dylan 🙁
Wow, that female prosecutor is incredible! It's sad that baby Dylan will never understand that people like her fought so hard for him.
The parents were so selfish. For that 'mother' to say she doesn't remember how she caused those injuries is of course utter bullshit. If she would never intentionally hurt her child, she would surely remember every time she accidentally caused him any sort of pain.
This is a horrible case, but I get only a small amount of joy from knowing their actions will haunt them for the rest of their lives, as they're slowly forgotten about in prison.
In order to be haunted by their actions, they'd have to have consciences.
she was probably high and don't remember
@@staceykersting705 touché
@@chrisd8006 potentially but her lies don’t add up. And it’s not a good enough reason to beat your child to death
@@chrisd8006 nawh i met women like her, it's bs
when the detective comes back after he was caught whispering about how he took them to the wrong place…. Man she had a lot of restraint in not attacking him for continuing to deny
Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Going through withdrawal as an adult is pure HELL. I can’t imagine what this BABY went through. The death penalty for both parents and jail time for the everyone else who let this happen. Most depressing story ever. 💔
Adults have some sense, some frame of reference for when pain will end, babies have nothing. That's all they know. It's terrifying to think.
Being in recovery myself - I can’t imagine putting another human being through withdraws - let alone an innocent baby
Poor Dylan never stood a chance
@@shannonstarr7980 hope you're doing well!
i agree
The only, the ONLY reprieve is that a baby will not remember the experience. But yes, I have experienced the worst pain imaginable, and that was still preferable to WD. I'll never understand why people would do this to a child. He was safe, he was cared for...why did they fight to get him back when it's clear they didn't want anything to do with him?
As a drug addict myself these people make me sick. I've struggled with addiction my entire adult life and I've never hurt anybody. Drugs don't make you behave this way.
Same here .. I went to treatment and fought hard to make amends by being a good mom .. the mom they deserved
@@audreyshmaudrey Good 4 you and your children. All the best moving forward...🙏💖
@@lildebboston455 what a beautiful thing to say how very sweet! And thank you so much you made my day 💝💓 God bless you and yours too my friend! thank you for the kind words
Drugs doesnt make you evil, but it makes you needing more drugs and sometimes neglecting the childrens need. Children deserve to grow up drugfree❤
@@Mataylor17 exactly the drugs just amplified the fact they were low life pieces of scum to begin with
I'm so glad the prosecutor did the screaming for us.
This was a hard one to watch.
That poor baby suffered so much. Makes me just want to cry. 😢 God Bless that tiny Baby.
Love the female prosecutor's energy. Wish she'd been on the Casey Anthony trial.
Imagine if she was 🤯 ! true passion and wanting justice for those with out a voice.
Casey is a different type of nut. She would've answered her in circles
Casey is a pathological liar and a sociopath so she would have had no problem answering questions with composure to cover her fallacies. It's her lawyer that saved her life.
@@MordyMcCheese 💯!!!