Groves Trial Day 1 - Darienne Liles & Tori Howell Maternity Ward Nurses
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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2020
- A mother and father in Scioto County, Ohio stand trial in the death of their infant son. Young Dylan Groves was found dead 30 feet down a well last year, prosecutors said. Authorities blame the boy’s parents-mother Jessica Groves, and father Daniel Groves-for what happened. The defendants are charged with aggravated murder, murder, kidnapping, endangering children, tampering with evidence, interference with custody, gross abuse of a corpse, and four counts of felonious assault.
Problems stemmed right from Dylan’s day of birth on January 10, 2019. The boy was born with drugs in his system, authorities claim. Daniel Groves later got the child back after showing that he followed regulations, but the defendant allegedly started missing important dates, including court dates and doctor’s appointments.
Investigators claim that both defendants bolted on a four-wheeler when authorities dropped by the home for a checkup on May 20, according to WLTW. Deputies obtained a search warrant, got Jessica Groves to give herself up quickly, but Daniel Groves was only arrested after a six-hour standoff. Authorities said they found $42,000 of stolen items at the residence, and later found the late infant in a well.
Deputies said Dylan Groves didn’t even make it to a full three months of age. They claim there’s evidence showing he’d been dead since March.
A coroner determined that the victim had been slain. The child sustained several bone fractures, had been wrapped in plastic bags with duct tape, then put in milk crates that were wrapped in chains, and other bindings, according to WSAZ. The creates were weighted down with rocks and a weight, authorities said. As in his birth, Groves died with drugs in his body, according to the coroner. This allegedly included methamphetamine.
#DylanGroves #GrovesTrial #JessicaAndDanielGrovesTrial
I’m sorry but I have no sympathy for these parents and I’ve been in their shoes. I had been an opiate addict for 12 years and found out at 3 months I was pregnant. The day the doctors told me I was pregnant I stopped using drugs got on medication assisted treatment to get me off the heroin and I also stopped smoking cigarettes. My son is about to be 6 years old he is healthy and happy and I owe him my life because he is what saved me from my addiction. I work in the field now and I see pregnant addicts all the time but none of them kill their children. Addiction doesn’t create murderers. These people are selfish monsters with out without their addiction.
Just curious where you on any type of Suboxone or methadone
I was on suboxone for many years finally got off it in 2019 and still clean, still working in the field at a detox/inpatient rehab as a counselor and intake coordinator trying to help others and show them there is a way to get out before it’s too late.
vickiebabieful well done on your recovery. I’ve always said it’s the want factor. You have to want it which you did, fair play to you.
@@vickiebabieful can I please pm you
Kudos to you
The way Ms. Howell smiles when she talks about her little buckets and when she sets up all her supples, you can tell she loves what she does and she loves taking care of the little angels. Such a beautiful soul
Amen to that. And Andrea man what a loving kind soul. I hope she realizes she gave baby Dylan the best moments of his short life. An i hope she dont blame herself.
DK H, I noticed that too! Very nurturing women!
This two monsters ,the are no parents for there children the have no emotions at all , the are both satans.🤬🤬🤬
These nurses are too pure for this work. Imagine getting into a career because you love babies and mommies and the miracle of life, and then you spend your days delivering drug-addicted babies. I hope they have good support systems in their lives.
Amen!
They work in the nicu they are completely aware of this fact before fyi
It's a struggle for OB nurses that's for sure.
Nursing is NOT all babies and mommas and the miracle of life. Women die during childbirth. Doctors have to deliver stillborns. There can be complications during delivery and the baby doesn't make it. They can be born with deformities or unforseen medical issues. If you let yourself get too emotionally involved this is not the right career for you
The nurses are too “pure” for this work? What kind of nurse should be providing care for newborns born with addiction withdrawals? If a nursing student still has fantasies of what they will encounter as a registered nurse, they have not been paying attention nor should they be a nurse.
I’m glad baby Dylan encountered several loving, caring humans before he died. Bless these nurses and the foster mom 😔
thats what i feel strange about too.. that birth giver has 0 emotions and rest getting associated with the baby were warm and amazing people
The nurse, Ms Liles, is definitely a young lady in the correct profession. Her caring and kindness come through even though she's a witness in a murder trial. A truly beautiful spirit. Any patient of hers is very fortunate!
and she has the same name as my daughter! its the first time Ive ever seen a young woman with her name. Darienne, Darianne, or Darian.
Jennifer S. I have a neighbor that has a little girl named Darius.
I agree. she seems like a great person and definitely a nurse I would want if I needed one
@@jennifers.3818 That’s such a beautiful name, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard the name here in the UK ❤️
Agreed. All the labor and delivery nurses, as well as the NICU/PICU nurses, I’ve dealt with were so compassionate and helpful. Bless them.
I was shocked when that nurse said they see drug addicted newborns daily. My gosh, that is the saddest thing ever. Some people are so selfish & cruel.
razztazz
Unfortunately it seems 2 be the same everywhere.
I am a nurse at the University of Penn hospital in Philly & we deal with this on a regular basis!
It is truly gut wrenching 2 see a newborn that has 2 start his life as a drug addicted baby! The majority of these babies hardly weigh anymore than 3 or 4 lbs!
@@pinkkitty9695 My lord! My heart couldn't take seeing those poor lil ones daily in that condition. I also couldn't refrain from knocking some sense into the drugged up mothers.
Kudos to you, I don't know how you do it..
@@razztazz1982
Thank u.
It's extremely hard not 2 hate these women ( I use the word "women" lightly) that give birth 2 an innocent drug addicted baby! Most of the time u just have 2 control urself with every fiber of ur being, remind urself that the reason that u made nursing ur career was 2 help people & pray 2 God 2 give u the strength 2 be able 2 look at these monsters let alone talk 2 them!
My colleagues & I have no problem giving these poor excuses for a mother a piece of our minds tho, (unfortunately that is the most we are aloud 2 do) or we make sure that we are extremely busy when it comes time 2 give these women their meds on time to keep them from getting dope sick. At least they get 2 experience a quarter of what these babies are going thur!
Oh yes, & we cry a lot 2 😭.
I once took my elderly mother to a community talk given by a judge about wills, etc. The judge said that his probate court cases used to be all old people, but now the deceased were more young druggies, often young parents. He said it's always a mess as being in their 20's or 30's, the druggie parents never expect to die so have nothing in place as to who get the child/children (thus causing custody battles galore) or anything else related to dying.
The judge said it's about 90% of his probate stuff is young drug deaths now. And the media applauds legal marijuana - a known gateway drug and harmful to health generally if smoked....
@@jpsartre2005 Wow, that's sad.
Noticing the faithful and steady foster dad sitting back there bearing the grief through the entire trial.
He help up so much stronger than I would have. I'd of had to be carried out of that court room.
Which one is he
@@IXOX0oI the guy in the blue jumper sitting in front of the lady with the yellow shirt
@@snap5549 do you have a timestamp?
@@hotsoup2341 36:43 the foster father is sitting with his arms crossed
It seems the courtroom needs better microphones. I’ve never heard a case where the judge or attorneys have to ask witnesses to speak up so much.
Seem like they're talking Low
Because they're Shy or don't want
To be heard.
to be fair she wasnt speaking up
and i speak quiet when im not confident
I mean yes it is low and the mics do suck and some ppl were speaking softly but it’s also an intimidation tactic to try and trip ppl up most of the time.
That's because the microphone only records what they say. It doesn't amplify it with speakers at all, like in a conference room.
Nurses need a pay raise
Bullshit!
They most definitely do need raises
How much do they make an hour?
@@elizabethbrown4972 the area around me, hospitals in Al RN's make between $10-20/hr and LPN's $9-13 (pay varies with degree, work history, demand, position u take and when a floor/department can't keep nurses they pay more to get u in,those r the floors where u see nurses who r there just for the paycheck and do not care about people. when that happens it puts more work on others and that's why the floor has high turnover ) they will add a little extra if u work night shift and/or charge nurse. Those that do home care make less but they r given gas mileage pay around 13cents a mile and some places pay u on call pay and with that a few will pay part of ur cellphone bill since u have to have one when u travel when ur on call. Being a nurse u not only take care of ur patient u take care of the family as well which adds more work. Different floors have different levels of care but when u really love the job u find it rewarding. Just wish the pay was better to cover the risks u take as a nurse.
@@bettybennett1828 Thank you for your full explanation. I worked as a Nursing Assistant when I was 18 over in England. We weren't certified and the pay was very low. I loved it though. I remember reading that RNs were trying to get better pay over there, but that was years ago now.
Here in Tupelo MS RNs were making 20 dollars an hour. That was a few years back.
Nurses aids pay is between 8 dollars and 9.50.
Theres a high turnover in the nursing homes for NAs. Very hard work for little pay. They offer a starting bonus to tempt them.
Why WHY???? Would they give this baby back to them? Daniel Groves stated “she did heroin two days ago” and she was positive for methamphetamine!!! Baby Dylan was positive for Morphine, Meth, Fentanyl! He was in the care of a loving, nurturing woman. Why??!! Reprehensible!!!!
madam jaynie agreed! I’m not a fan of the foster care system but in this case that foster momma should’ve absolutely been able to keep this precious baby
It sucks, but it’s because the father passed his drug screens. He was peeing in front of live a person & passing. He did everything he needed to do to get the baby back. But the baby was given back & he signed an agreement that he would not allow the mother alone with the baby, she wasn’t allowed to live in the house, he was supposed to be the main caregiver & just allow her to have supervised visits with the baby. None of which it seems he actually followed. Where dcfs messed up, is it doesn’t look like they took hair samples of the husband, that they weren’t doing random weekly checks. My state requires this, sometimes it’s 2 a week & phone calls to check in, she should’ve been a high alert level so I don’t see why they weren’t. A lot of social workers don’t have that much power, it’s up to the court & parents have so many rights. It’s hard to take a child... usually dcfs works to help the family, & in the majority of cases the parents want help & things are okay. Or they take the baby... but she threw up so many red flags that a case worker should’ve seen.
Dcfs asks for a lot & they make you jump through a lot of hoops. They should’ve & may have interviewed the older son, his school, his medical records, family.... but the flags should’ve been raised the moment she started missing her treatment. I know, we report them directly to the case worker. Occasionally things happen and you may miss one, but increased absences & lack of participation & failing her tests would’ve been reported.. & at the point, he technically had custody so they should’ve amped up the random pop ins. Or monitoring the child much more closely, interviewing the older son to see if the mom was there. It is hard to follow their supervision rules, like if he had to pee he should’ve brought he baby in with him. Catching her there would’ve had them taking the baby. So even though I don’t think he physically harmed the baby, he didn’t do what he agreed & it lead to the babies death.
Yes, and he was only in foster care for 12 days? Is that possible? I’m from CA, that wouldn’t have happened.
32makingit it is, they only temporarily took him until they could investigate the father. The father passed all his drug tests, he passed the home inspection, he signed an agreement saying he would not allow the mother alone with the baby, that she could not live in the house, he had a job... he passed everything. You can’t keep a child from a parent who didn’t do anything wrong, he didn’t deliver a baby with drugs in their system & he said he didn’t know & he proved to them he was clean. They have no case against him, they are separate people. She’s the only one they can prove was doing anything. by law they are required to return the child & then they monitor the situation. Most states don’t even take the baby into care if there is family to release him too, who pass all the checks. It’s better to keep a child with family then in foster care & parents have way more rights then the states do. The state can’t just come in & take a child from someone who proves they are capable, drug free, decent home.... these parents went to great lengths to conceal what was going on.
This nurse is well educated and knowledgeable about her field. I am impressed with her testimony.
I sincerely hope that their teenage son winds up being emotionally stable as an adult.
I will never understand how a mother could harm her child. RIP baby Dylan
because she's a monster and not a mother
@@pkography she's the spawn of the devil
Can they stop referring to this baby as “it”?! 😡
and baby dylan
Thank you!💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏
@@harletterider9658 he is baby Dylan
Why was this child allowed to go home with the parents????
RJD 0320
Exactly!!!
It was a recipe for disaster, when will the states learn? AJ friend, those meth addicts and that lil baby in Georgia, this case? And stop 🛑
RJD 0320 that’s what I don’t understand . Some years back I was called in to stay in a hospital room with a couple who’s baby was being taken by cps so the parents didn’t try to leave with her.
O Comino the true criminal is the parents next the cps
@@lovepet4565 totally agree , this case is so very painful
Who the F allowed these parents to take the baby home x
Social Services of Ohio.
im kinda blame them too 😠
Yeah I know CPS is a f**king joke, they already failed this poor baby boy and Gabriel Fernandez
Child protective services did.. social services did.
A worker who was assigned to the case who had not even finished her training yet and she was/ is responsible for at least 23-32 more children as of the date of this trail.. Yeap !!!!! This is Ohio for you.... Since when does CPS supervisors tell their workers (( Do not put out a amber alert on that missing 2 months old baby, because it will make our office look bad))??? Yes ! That’s what her boss told her and remember she hasn’t finished training but surly her boss has, right? Who knows.
I think the whole lot of them should be fired Asap
Some people have said that they are all involved with all kinds of evil things and I pray these rumors are not true
@@teresahickey3021 oh I think they are involved in some very evil goings on but they are mere pawns. You'd be shocked to know WHO & WHY are above them facilitating some truly heinous crimes.
So this morning my son 21 walked in the kitchen with his 2 month old first child my grandson the baby in one hand and making a bottle with the other Hand and I said I will help he said no I got it...joy filled me even though his dad wasn’t there like he should have been he is a wonderful dad My grandson is blessed to have a mother and father that love each other and the child they created I’m so sorry for these innocent babies that are just lost on their on and can do nothing for themselves
This has me in tears.. these amazing nurses have so much love in their heart and to have to be a witness in a case like this i can tell is tearing their hearts to pieces
This makes me feel better about being a pain in the butt to the nurses who helped to deliver and care for my babies. I now realize that they were probably just happy that I was emotionally invested in what was going on.
Wow she was ready to deliver and showing no signs of pain, and the hospital did not give her anything for pain. She was EXTREMELY HIGH AS A KITE. I had 2 children natural and i think the whole hospital heard me screaming of pain. My respects to the nurses that have to experience all this
That woman was soaring
I had both my babies naturally and both times the nurses were shocked I had not bothered them or said boo till I was complete. Never yelled cussed complained…both of my births were complete joy. high pain tolerance and LAMAZE is a Godsend!!
Oh please. I gave birth naturally no screams or pain and was feeling euphoric with ZERO drugs in my body. Don’t be so dramatic.
@@julesthecat.damn, the way you dismissed this woman's experience is very scary for a person to have a child. Who knows if you're like Jessica? Spun out off of something thus no pain? Or you're lying like a histrionic? I feel bad for your child, I hope the father is the opposite of you; poor child have a narcissistic mother.
@@julesthecat. every BODY and every labor is different.
Can you imagine bringing life into this world and not even asking about your baby or how he is ...
It's baffling to me. I had twins that were a little early (as twins usually are) so they had to be in the NICU for a couple weeks. Not being able to cuddle My babies right away was so hard, and I was at the NICU just talking to them while they were in their incubator, just wishing I could hold them SO badly... some people shouldn't be allowed to be parents.
If a baby is born addicted to drugs, they should be taken away, period. If a mother can't justify getting off drugs while pregnant, she won't justify getting off of them when the baby is born. Maybe, just maybe wemon will rethink their choices or at least it gives the baby a better chance. I had to come off a depression and anxiety medication and stopped smoking while going through a separation and inevitably single and alone so I have zero compassion for this woman. I also had to bottle feed my baby so he didn't get any medication in his system when I went back on my meds due to post partum. It sucked and it was tough, but you do what you gotta do. My son was born a healthy baby boy 9lb 4oz. Emergency c section and I refused to even take the pain medication they gave me during and weeks after bc I was worried I might not be clear headed or tired and I didn't have help at home. So I def don't think there are any excuses for these evil people! All that aside, even if they were high, that doesn't make you a monster. She's just selfish and evil.
Who gave Baby Dylan back they also need a trial date
Cps
Amen! Another child failed by Social Services!
💯💯💯
CPS
I always thought that when a baby is born with drugs in their system, social services steps in and in all states...
Should never have got Dylan back. Never
you'd think that Jessica was trying to induce a stillborn with what she was using and how uncooperative she was. She had a nurse's license and must have known this was a possibility.
My god, did you listen to the amount of drugs in his system?! Poor sweet baby.
She is a great witness I really am glad that she was in the court they didn't want the baby from the very beginningthis really makes me so upset I can't even begin to f****** explain how f****** mad I am right now
Healing vibes to whoever had to be a juror during that chaotic mess. That's sure to leave a scar
This makes me so sad that poor little baby didn't stand a chance from the moment she conceived. She was so high when she delivered she didn't feel any pain! This is so sad nobody makes you have a baby and there's thousands of families desperate to be parents and these monsters have no care for the sanctity of life.
I'm so tired of hearing how there are so many families that want children or would've take a child when foster homes are overflowing with unwanted children. Even if he had a chance at adoption, the moment they hear he was born addicted, he wouldn't have been as easily adopted. Then you have poor babies in foster care because they were born with a lot of melanin as if they had choice.....Smh lol I'm so tired of hearing that tired old line because if it were true there wouldn't be over crowded facilities or children spending their whole life in foster care. I said what I said, change my mind.
@@tacosanddutches9878 Well said
She never wanted that poor baby 😭😠😭😠😭😠
And she could have given the baby up for adoption.
Why was she afraid to tell her husband that she was pregnant???
How did she NOT know she was pregnant for 5-5 1/2 months???
@@iwantthe80sback59 look at skylar Richardson and her bs ….
This woman is the complete embodiment of a maternity ward nurse.
In every video they complain about not hearing the person on the stand. They should just say “now when you’re up there you must scream your responses because we are all deaf in this courtroom”.
It was ridiculous
ikr
Between the intrusive coughing, the atrocious accents and horrible grammar (not all, but most) I find it difficult to understand what’s going on.
It's blowing my mind that she got to the hospital *COMPLETELY DIALATED* and was in absolutely no pain whatsoever. Some people get multiple epidurals and are still in pain. How high was she?!?!
To be honest i dont understand either. I was addicted to meth for years and then pain pills that later led to heroin addictions for years and then finally got clean cold turkey by moving. I have a son which is why i got clean and i remember the birth, i gave burth natural, to be excruciating. I remember having broken ribs and still feeling them on heroin, they didnt hurt too bad but did still hurt a bit. How she wasnt showing signs of being in pain is beyond me, she had to have been mixing drugs perhaps like doing goofballs, i never was into that so maybe thats what did it.
@@kL-vs6wz what are goofballs?
Evidently she was HIGH HIGH!!! It’s blowing my mind too! 😳
@@Kakashigirl250 I’m wondering what goofballs are too? 🤔 My guess would be a mix of heroin and meth or some other upper...
i am sure he wanted to say two hours prior she was getting high instead of two days ago..
This prosecuting attorney is on fire. Shes a true badass.
Yes and she's very attractive minus that BLUE eyeshadow imo
I have no words. Every answer to every question hardens my heart towards the parents.
Seeing pictures of this beautiful baby is heartbreaking. These nurses went to school to do no harm. Parents should live up to that same standard. The harm that came to this innocent being is incomprehensible to the sane human mind. RIP baby Dylan (that's my 24 year old's middle name). You are our angel.
bless this channel from cutting the footage of them away from session where its just silence. you are the real MVP
Happy Birthday Baby Dylan.. My heart breaks for this child. Dylan was never wanted by his family. This child should of been protected & never given back to these monsters 💔
He would be almost 2 if he was still alive
Absolutely disgusting the fact that child services made the decision of giving that innocent baby back to his monster ‘parents’ ..... why ?? Not only was that little angel failed by the 2 people who should have given him the most unconditional love ever ...... the 2 people who generated him, but he was failed by child services ..... by the whole system. How shamefully tragically sad 😞
r.i.p. baby Dylan ..... I’m so so sorry for all the pain you endured and I hope you are happy and pain free now in the arms of Jesus 🙏🦋
These helpless babies 👶 need LAWS to protect them from pre birth as far as Drugs of abuse such as Meth heroin. RX pills 💊. Booze!
These poor mites are helpless and as a society we need to 🛑 enabling these monsters demons from abusing them to death
there are laws but only in certain states. and of course only certain places actually enact them and follow thru. and then of course most states allow women to kill their babies while in the womb. so why would they care if they do drugs while pregnant??
I personally know a girl who I KNOW was on pills while she was pregnant. Idk how they didnt catch her, if they never did drug tests or if she stopped when it was close to delivery. I think they never tested her. her baby was underweight and cried almost nonstop for the first month of life. her dumbass said, Idk why he cries all the time but hes getting on my damn nerves. the babys daddy took care of him the entire time bc she wouldnt. I cried for tht baby. idk why drs dont do standard drug tests for all pregnant women
I have this in my families past, although facially signs are present she has worked hard and grown up with a motherly instinct far surpassing her mother.
I understand addiction so much but what I don’t understand if ur babies paying the price. I was given strong oxy for my femur surgeries. So I built a physical addiction and that was something I honestly never thought I’d ever experience. I talked with my doctor about getting off my pain meds. He basically said I should find another Dr if I proceeded I’ll would legit want to die so I planned a safe way to taper down using tea and proper diet I lost some weight had some spotting but he was perfect at delivery, no withdrawal great weight and it made everything worth it
Native Nfree nice big baby!! I had big ones too! Being pregnant and nursing 🤱 was my best times in my 59 years.... i live for my 3 kids honestly
Stop calling that baby "it" he has a name and he was a person, a human being who barely got to experience his life. His name is Dylan, call him that not "it".
If you’re referring to the nurse - I initially thought that but it’s the questions that make it seem like she’s calling Dylan ‘it’ but when you listen to her answers she isn’t she’s saying ‘it ..is usually something we do for babies..etcetc’
Apologies if you meant someone else- I’m only half way through the video.
@@moynaghsilver-woods7212 I agree. And from what I saw if her testimony she is caring and never would call a specific baby it.
I was very impressed by the attending nurse's professionalism and forthrightness. Very thorough and not defensive like the caseworker.
The Groves look so sad, they must be thinking about the drugs they're missing. According to Dylan's blood screen they weren't
choosy and only missed out on gold spray paint.
😂😂💀
Tector Gorch goldspray?? Fill me in!
Terrible. Just awful. Little guy never stood a chance.
Thea mama Emma drug addicts will use anything to get high. Especially meth heads. They are not above huffing spray paint. That is a all time low.
Lisa Ann wow! Really?? 🧐🧐🧐
I just discovered this case today. After reading the description I am already full of anger! I cannot even put into words how angry I am at this lowlife Mom! If this child was born with drugs in his system, why was he allowed to go home with this woman? So many people (me included) would have gladly adopted this baby boy and given him a loving and stable home.
In fact she did not return home with him, he was place in foster home but was return to the dad only 12 days After, due to him having clean drugs tests and to the condition the mother would not lived with them and only be present on the day under the supposed supervision of the father 🙄 but they doesnt respect thoses conditions and went silent after the baby return... Hé could have stay with the foster mom who was wonderful and loved him very much the little time she had him 💔
I think his Foster mum would have adopted him she's absolutly distraught
Because that’s the system we are in get the baby back to the parents and what happens so sad
The nurses are both so nice. It must be a real pleasure to be in their care. Genuinely nice girls.
Angels trying to save babies from demons, the laws need to change. Those babies should be taken away from the parents, no loopholes.
wait so they have pleaded not guilty? WHY on earth would they do this?
The mother looks like her he cowardly lion from wizard of oz. just not as cute. I cannot look at her hands. Just thinking of their destruction
Seriously~That is it!! Could not place her self-pity, COWARDLY look🙄...
Brilliant observation, spot on!!
I know what u mean. I can't stand this woman
Diana Howell I hate this couple. Ive tried to wrap my mind around how this could happen. I can’t. She killed a sweet helpless tiny baby. That’s evil. She could have called that foster mother and washed her hands of the baby. But she instead took her lifelong frustrations out on his broken body. Wicked. Not mental. Not addiction. Demonic.
If they had tied these two to a tree and unleashed the firing squad from El Salvatore on them until they evaporated, I wouldn’t flinch.
Lisa Ann what does her looks have to do with it? You're not a 10/10 either.
How precious babies are, most women would give anything for that moment. Most anyone breaks down during this process and the pure emotion of this. How could she dismiss this beautiful gift. I'm just speechless at how narcissistic this woman was. I would have loved this moment and been so thankful for this baby. I'm just disgusted.
@@justicejane2429 very much so.
@@justicejane2429 I actually did a whole story on my channel. It was very hard.
Guarantee the only thing they cared about after that angel was born was, themselves, getting caught, and probably needing to leave to go get high again... smh...
She didn't say anything and refused to cooperate, just weird. I've had 5 babies and I can't even imagine how strange that must have been for these nurses. She was hiding drug use but as if refusing a urine test is NOT gonna raise a flag with the staff
She was in active labor. I wouldn't be answering a single question eithef
Everyone who was a witness whether they were nurse prosecutor the brother the foster mom everyone who testified regarding this case had an emotional attachment to the baby except for the parents so sad 💔😭 God bless that prosecutor who work so hard to get justice for this angels 😪😪😪😪
Baby Dylan would have been 2 years old today.
R.I.P baby Dylan 🌹🧸
Look up their mugshots if you want to really see what these two monsters look like. Not how their lawyers have them looking while on trial.
Look at her fashion statement on day 3 .... I was 🤨😒🙄
@Misti Stallard Omgsh!! I know right?!?! I couldnt believe it...especially the father...he looked like a completely different person. So sad....and scary.
@@kristinawalls6024 Yes! I saw a news article about them and didn’t even recognize them! It’s scary and sad.
NURSE LILES IS AN ABSOLUTE ANGEL TREATING THESE TWAT TAKING DRUGGIE SO CALLED MOTHERS , AND HAVING TO LOOK AFTER THESE POOR BABIES GOING THROUGH WITHDRAWAL.WELL DONE NURSE LILES XXXX 😇👼🏼🏨👩🏼⚕️🙏🏽
Kitten i could not deal with those " moms" myself, to me theyve commited ASSAULTS via drug abuse and hurting causing pain suffering risking entire mental stability
I wish they would be charged asap the min the babies are born addicted
Lose custody
And then be sterilized
Period
And make termination a viable option
@@lovepet4565 if this baby had remained in his foster home he would still be alive, so much for family reunification. baby dylan suffered a horrific death. guess the parents wanted this baby for the benefit ck from family welfare. why didnt the system order this mother and father to jail until they could court order them to in house rehab...
@@lovepet4565 you can't sterilize someone. What if they get clean, start a new life maybe fall in love and marry then want to start a family?
The lawyer for Daniel needs a public speaking class. I can hear my college professor rolling over in his grave because eod how many times she said uhmmmmm
and nothing she says makes any points. she constantly asks leading questions and is then forced to rephrase them and they are the exact same questions as the prosecution. most of the time, I can't even remember what her defense argument even is
Excellent preparation and questioning by the State.
The state’s witnesses were not present in Court after the Opening Statements. I dont call that good preparation.
@@ErikS- I agree with you. The prosecutors are not prepared at all. As if they think it is a slam dunk case. The defense is doing a good job making CPS look incompetent. Dylan should have NEVER been returned to the father. This may well help both parents.
@@ErikS- ..and that's HER fault ? was she a taxi ---to go by & get them. that's ridiculous sounding, plz.
i think she's dmn good ~*
@@andreaturnquist4855 ..that's all good--YET--CPS is not on trial here,dig?
are u related to these two POS- eww
@@harletterider9658 Ok. Next time you @ me bring a sufficient argument. I have a background in law, so, I look at things from a legal perspective.
There aren’t words in my vocabulary to describe how devastating and evil these parents are as well as Cps and others involved with this case.
Cps needs to be completely transformed and need to be accountable for their malpractice and gross negligence as well as hospital officials.
This goes against humanity. Poor innocent baby and big brother who will never be right.
Did cops even read the medical notes....if they had would caps have forced the child back to these monsters?
I don't know why but I'm fascinated with this case same as McNabb and Watts. Horrific killers.
If you haven't done so yet, watch the Rosenbaum trial, it was riviting and one of the worst cases I've watched. Also the Cheyenne Harris case.
There is something fascinating realizing that monsters are real, and seeing proof of how selfish and disgusting a human can be.
each of these cases are like epitome of inhumanity
The Jodi arias trial captivated me
@@lovepigs1 yes that was a horrible case! I just finished watching that trial. Great prosecution team and I loved the verdict and sentencing.
Why didn't the parents just leave the baby with the foster mom?!
I like this judge. What he is doing asking her if she is sure she wants to proceed with that strategy will make it impossible for an appeal for Jessica to succeed while also its consciences of her rights to a fair trial as it takes place.
Ummm is that really your name? Sara Hendrix?!?! Lol that is my name Sara M Hendrix 🤣 😂 😅 😆 😄
The prosecutors eyeshadow is as fierce as her demeanour 💅
Haha 😂
She's gorgeous
They saw/had MAJOR problems in the hospital, so WHY would they then send the baby "home"???!! And why would it even get to THAT point?- the baby should've gone up for adoption LONG BEFORE it got to this
Preach!!
Honestly! They had no interest in the baby after delivery. Why the hell would you send a baby home with these sick bastards.
That's what happens in Texas. CPS makes the parents go thru alot more to get the bay home with them and they don't just trust the father to supervise visits with the addict mother
@@gennyzelis2303 Same here in Illinois. It is extremely hard to get your children back.
@@andreaturnquist4855 right. So I don't understand this so called safe plan they had in effect
The hospital said no way to it so they placed him with the foster mother. He should have stayed there.
This court room has the worst Mic system
Why are the parents sitting next to each other where they can speak and write notes to each other? Seems strange to me but then again, I've never been on trial for murdering my baby.
Lmao. They are not in kindergarten. So no need to write "notes " if they have mouths and can talk of they want to
They are on trail together. They are aloud to speak to each other
Anna Banana typically notes are written out of respect for the court. Also they sometimes take notes about specific testimony to have their lawyer(s) address in cross examination or at a later time.
They are on trial together, therefore allowed to sit together and talk to each other etc.
They are on trial together. that's the way it works.
The lady who was the RN was an intelligent, articulate, professional, believable witness but she could not raise her voice no matter how many time she was told to speak up.
She works in an environment where she has to communicate with women at the point of child-birth, and I don't believe that is an environment which would be conducive to her bellowing out her comments across a court-room just so the court-reporter can get it down on paper. The accoustics of these courtrooms always seems very poor. When each witness enters the witness box, they could pin a microphone onto the witnesses lapel so that it would always be close to their mouth (like they do in tv studios), and the court dj should adapt the sound levels of the microphone so that it helps the speakers be heard more clearly. Not every person has the same tone, or manner of phrase and so if the testimony really is so important to them, courts should do more to assist in that process.
articulate though? the amount of times she said um almost made me stop watching. It was impossible to listen to and it's hard to believe anyone with an education would continue to repeat that word.
It was actually the case for every single witness who took the stand in this case.
They actually mentioned that it is a microphone made for recording. That’s why we hear it so well but it actually didn’t project well in the actual court room.
@@katrinaoliver4167 j
@@JMac-27 Shes obviously nervous... and not used to that type of environment but okay go off then.
I'm in love with these nurses. I would love to have them at my delivery. Hope I get someone like this when I have a baby
The damn court room need better audio if they can't hear people on the dang stand its annoying hearing them yell at witnesses 😠
Drugs are no good but, lots of people do drugs and still love their children. This woman was just evil.
They love their babies, children. BUT the drugs alter their abilities to think, feel or do anything except find their next dose.
Wish there was a way hard drug users could be sterilized.
I agree 💯. I started raising my step daughters 4 children 16 years ago because of drug addiction. Two years later she gave birth to another child that I took in because of addiction. Two years after that my step daughter gave birth to her sixth child. While in court for that child (in Ohio) I asked the judge if he could order her tubes tied. He responded that sadly in the state of Ohio he could not as it violated her rights. In some states such as New York this can be done. My step daughter is still an active user. I have maintained custody to this day. 3 are adults now and three are still home with me. Her addiction has been heartbreaking , but I could not imagine my life without My 6 children. Bittersweet
That is both very sad and very wonderful...wishing you well.
@@marciarose9656 ....God bless you and your family...You are a wonderful
I think that drug users who are arrested should then have a required implant in the arm to prevent pregnancy for at least one year. If able to be stable in recovery after the year they then can have out. The men though don't have an option that is temporary. Hopefully, this will be a thing that can be invented for men in the future.
@@thequeenb8404 excellent idea.
Nurses are the real heroes. It takes a Pandemic for them to get a bit of kudos. We can't survive without good nurses. People don't realize how they suffer to care for others. Also after they graduate, they continue to be educated formally and informally. The learning process never stops. Often a 12 hour shift turns into a 14 plus hour shift.
I cannot even begin to imagine how a baby this age could get several broken bones! The child's bones would have been difficult to break simply because of his age. They would not yet have hardened. It had to have been several terrible acts of violence.
Does anyone know what the appliance is that sits right in front of the judge and also the defendants in which they put their finger in and it turns green?
It mutes the microphone
@@ashleyrenee7171 they shouldnt be allowed to do that. Only the judge.
Who is that male defence lawyer??? He starts with some valid questions... and then he goes flat...!!!
This breaks my heart my almost 4 year old son is named Dylan and I just can't
God bless you all 🙏❤️
It is so devastating that people who do not want children and happen to become pregnant ruin everything for that babies life and parents that DO want children happen to have challenges like deformations and neurological complications....
I hate this planet more and more each day, sorry guys
Irresposible Child Protective Service workers must be accountable. In California, after CPS reunite a child and the child died, CPS workers went to jail.
As they should how do they ignore so many problems .
Oh dear lord this is absolutely heartbreaking!!! I don’t know why cps ever gave the parents their parental rights back !!
Right???? They should enforce or rather create a bill to help babies like Dylan. Yes foster homes are all but desirable but maybe he would have stood a chance to live out his life as any person have the right to.
@@zellie9 Michigan has a law that if you’ve had parental rights terminated you’re not allowed to keep subsequent children that are born. I agree, more can be done. I used to work in NICU. You heard the nurse testify that she deals with positive babies daily. Improved laws are always on the back of the deceased or severely injured
I love the nurses! They are 100% doing the right job that they love and I KNOW they put they all into.
Those nurses are angels.
I seriously thought when the Prosecutor asked Tori Howell how often she see's babies being born addicted that Tori's response would have been too often instead of everyday but thats just soo sad
She ran for help with the pain of labor yet afflicted pain on her infant son and denied him medical treatment! Complete POS! This baby wasn't even 6months old... Life in prison &/or even lethal injection is to good for these people.
Cys needs sued in civil court by Andrea for wrongful death, negligence, recklessness, i can keep going... ❤
So many people have commented that they don't understand why these two losers would keep this baby that they clearly didn't want and resented having to care for. While many claim the reason is narcissism, I think it is a fear of being SHAMED by others. They probably never thought they resented this baby enough to kill him, but the reason they kept him was because they couldn't deal with the ridicule they would get from friends and family for giving a healthy baby up for adoption. Once they came under the influence, this resentment welled up and they lost control. It's ironic that fear of public shaming influenced their desire to keep this baby and now they are the most hated couple in their county because they kept him. This desire for CPS to force unwanted children on unfit parents is ridiculous. They should make an effort to identify parents who clearly don't want their babies and encourage them to give their children up with no shame attached. Remember, she admitted to having no car seat and no baby bed for Dylan to sleep in. She had no prenatal care and likely used drugs right before she came in to deliver. They obviously didn't want him. Instead of saying to them "Here is what you need to do to get your child back." CPS should have said, "If you care at all for this baby and you want to maintain your lifestyle, let's try him in foster care for a while and see how you both do."
You are correct
The male defense attorney's head is so shiny 😳 I comment as I watch it on these trials. The L&D nurse seemed more knowledgeable about all the processes within the hospital as protocol goes. The nursery nurse lights up when she talks about babies which is lovely to see. Bless both of those women for all they do!!
I have been watching these out of order and the one thing that is so aggravating is the courtroom had CHRONIC issues with sound.
Every single day of testimony same thing making the witnesses restate an entire session. I began to wonder if it was by design because by the second day it should have been corrected much less 5 days later.
This trial would have been a lot shorter.
Nurses are angels and rockstars to me.
I have so much I want to say about this but I am just going to leave it bc I just can’t! Don’t even know where to begin. These 2 are DONE!
This makes me sick! The worst thing about this whole tragedy is that Social Services was involved! They failed that baby just as bad as his sorry excuse for parents did. 12 days with a foster parent was in no way a sufficient amount of time for the parents to get their lives straight! SS also should have been doing frequent home visits and drug testing on the spot as well as physically examining that baby! They failed him just as badly as those monsters he had for parents did!
You are absolutely correct this people need to be held accountable for this poor baby's death as well as the evil parents. How they all sleep at night i will never know
This attorney was AT IT. You can hear the nurse just fine. He repeatedly did that maybe courts should get speakerss and mics then ridiculous constantly asking her to speak up,
Agreed I heard every word perfectly
That precious baby. Rest with angels sweetie 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
There are not going to be any light moments through this trial. it is a very grim tale indeed from the beginning onwards.....that poor innocent baby. You cant choose your parents.
So many innocent children are killed at the hands of their parents because of irresponsible and negligent by CPS. CPS should be responsible for Dylan’s death as much as parents. They are the ones who made the decision to hand the baby to the drug addict father. Dylan should have stayed with foster family for his safety.
Reneenan I totally agree with you these monsters In case who had the care of Dylan need to be in court explaining why they choose to put dylan in the hands of monsters instead of leaving him with his caring Foster mum who clearly loved him I the short time she had him in her care
These nurses are amazing at their job, they answered to a vocation, even if it means there are parents who couldnt care much about their children
CPS is just as responsible as the Groves. How in the world could they give the baby back and not drug test her? Blood on many hands here.
I don't see any tears. Just acting
Ms. Howell is a pure soul. Poor little Dillion was in good hands I'm sure when he was with her. You can tell she loves her job. This story is so sad. I can't imagine giving birth to any of my children and not wanting to know everything that is going on with my baby.
The male defense attorney seemed to be throwing Jessica under the bus! 👍
I noticed that throughout the trial he seemed to have made a personal decision to stand for truth and not for her.
That was the defense strategy. She wanted to take the blame so that he can get off.
The baby should have been taken away from them.
This makes me sick, at times it looks like the mother wants to laugh instead of fake cry, and you can tell the dad is just not engaged at all, neither one cared about this poor baby, so sad 😞
The system failed this baby. They should have realized all of these signs and took precautions to protect Dylan.
Im in the uk. And have NO idea what happened in this case ? Someone please explain
Watching today on Dylan’s birthday. Happy birthday angel👼🏼
How is it that a defense attorney who used to public speaking, keeps saying uuum.