Why "The Process" FAILED Miserably
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2023
- The 76ers said to "trust the process", but was it even worth it?
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Was "The Prcoess" a failure?
yes
Well yea
No it wasn’t, Although the sixers haven’t made it past the second round, they have a MVP, and has been slowly improving
They had 10 wins in 2015-2016
And in 2022-2023 they were the third seed and seem to get better, so yea it worked just not as well as people thought
nah in the next 3 years without a chip then yes
Yes, it is for now
Tanked for years to never make it past the 2nd round is crazy 🤣🤣
Don't forget they started tanking because they lost in the 2nd round. So they wasted all this time to now be in posibly worse situation - Harden (and maybe also Embiid) wanting out and no real good replacements/offers for them.
@@bradulovic82 there's a little detail missing with that 2nd round finish though. They were an 8 seed that year and only made it past the first round because Derrick Rose blew out his knee in game 1 and basically killed the Bulls spirit
Tanked for a decade lmao
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol it was a gamble, they must have been gamblers. It's a risk they were willing to take. If their "Process" would have resulted in multiple NBA Championships, then we would all be on here talking about how genius the 76ers front office is😂
As a Celtics fan, I have to thank the 76ers for passing on Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and even Robert Williams. 😁😁😁
we really owe them everything they gave big al away for free too
Give the early 2010s nets their props for allowing y’all to fleece them
@@abhaypancharathi3866embiids team really gave their opponents the embiid stopper 😭😭
Tatum would probably be one of the most hated players if Philly drafted him...
If he's not hated already 💀
And they still can’t win rings and they always choked at the end LOL
Of course it failed, but the worst part of the process is it failed in the most obvious way. You can't expect young players to develop into a championship team if the organization spends the first 3-4 years telling them winning doesn't actually matter.
Imo, I think it was a success until they chose Harris over Butler. It’s a decision which made no sense then and makes even less sense now.
@@erikbentley9005 I would check out Jimmy's interview with J.J. Redick from a few years ago. Based on the way he describes things, I don't think Butler stays even if they offer him to Tobias Harris contract.
Truer words have never been spoken, this hits the spot
It didn’t “fail,” they have the current MVP on their roster, and a former albeit unhappy former MVP. They’re a solid team, but they aren’t winning a championship most likely.
So the question of if they failed depends on what the expectations were/are and would the alternative have been better?
I would say the hope was to get beyond the second round, which they’ve failed to do. However, considering that team very likely would have ended up a bottom tier team anyone this state is better than the alternative.
@@johndebono1870From his interview I remembered he HATED coach Brett. If somehow they offered Tobias Harris max after hiring Doc and of course Embiid likes him and convince him to stay then Butler would have
According to Mark Cuban, there were 2 VHS tapes showing Giannis. People bashing teams for not taking Giannis is ridiculous. No one had any idea he would be who he is now.
That's kinda the thing, people could've at least taken a chance, it would be a high risk but it's like they always say "You miss every shot you don't take" and Milwaukee took a shot of Giannis and are now considered a title contender in a pretty tough Eastern Conference. (Boston and Miami specifically tough)
@@StarStruck7900its a hard sell after the darko fiasco. It made front offices paranoid of drafting overseas players with limited exposure.
Why would they take that big of a chance with a lottery pick?@@StarStruck7900
@@StarStruck7900they did not take a “shot at Gianni’s” dawg he was the 15th pick. If the bucks had a pick higher they wouldn’t have picked him
@@ProCy Ur right, forgot bout that part of Drafting.
Ben Simmons averaged 8 blocks during his rookie season… truly a generational talent
Hopefully he becomes the defensive superstar he is destined to be, it would be unfortunate if he never developed a jumper
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i think no body averaged 8 blocks ever
Wilt probably did
@@Coolhand69probably never for real
Personally, I'm tired of the 76ers. I've been saying this since he threw his teammates under the bus, that I trust Victor Wembanyama, Brandon Miller,and Scoot Henderson to lead their teams to the conference finals before Joel Embiid can. Joel can't be trusted as the first,second,or third option on any team. They 4real just need to pack him and Harden up,and give the keys to the 76ers to Tyrese Maxey.
Ive been saying the same thing. Honestly, id cut him full stop. I would rather have karl malone right now knowing everything hes done than embiid,. Embaby is the worst human being to ever play in the nba
@@Coolhand69 saw y’all hire doc rivers & I knew immediately that wasn’t going to last😂
Don’t forget Amen Thompson, now.
Don’t wanna get ahead of myself, but I think they are finally figuring out how to use everyone properly. After the first five games of this season, 4 guys were averaging 20+. No other team has done that in history. I’m still a little skeptical, but this is looking different from years past.
High risk no reward
Being a Sixers fan right now feels like being an Eagles fan during the Chip Kelly/Mark Sanchez/Sam Bradford era
Let just hope it ends the same for the sixers as it did for the eagles
I think Embid seems to always get a pass in this ordeal, most of the blame came onto Ben. Embid haven’t shown up in the playoffs also, weather it’s because he is hurt or he just didn’t preform, I think he deserves more consideration in the blame game.
yep, for some reason he has this barrier that protects him for getting any blame. The 1st option of the team not in the best shape, always getting injured in the playoffs and when he forces to play, he hurts the team more than helping.
As good as he can be he’s always struggled with his health and he’s one of the worst clutch players I’ve ever seen. He’s just as likely to fall down as he is to make a game winning shot🙄😆
Joel embid is great on paper but when playoffs arrive he's washed as hell
Embiid will go down as a great regular season player but bc of his terrible clutch play will NEVER win a title as a team’s best player.
I honestly have more trust in Maxey than Embiid
Here after they lost in 6 to the Knicks in Rd1
Here
3:58 the fact that 18 wins was only third worst in the league that year is insane 😂
Curious why the Markelle Fultz to Orlando trade was never even mentioned here? As an Orlando fan, I used to consider this trade a heist job by the Magic. But considering the fact that the pick they gained from the trade was used to draft Maxey, it actually turned into a huge win for Philly.
Markelle gonna be better than maxey
Markelle is better than maxey at everything except 3 pt shooting
@@Simpfinynever
@vbacc1980 absolutely not. There's no one in the league that wants fultz or would trade Maxey. Fultz is the worst starting PG in the league
@@Simpfinyfultz is already maxed out. He's not getting any better. Maxey is already better than Fultz will ever be
This channel gotta be one of the most well produced basket ball channels out there
I guess Ben Simmons averaged 8 blocks in 2017 😂
for me, if not for FULTZ INJURY(a scoring PG who will have the ball once Ben shut himself up in every 4th QT),
they could be a real contender on his 2-3rd year.
side note: I missed The Jump.
Trae young owns every 76ers player ever😂😂
zip up his pants when your done
I loved watching the underdog hawks knock them out of the playoffs
Especially Simmons 😂
It’s a good day when nonstop posted
Picking Carter Williams ahead of Giannis was not bad, Giannis was pure raw talent. And Ben Simmons very much deserved the no 1 pick, he was incredible during his early career.
We really tanked for almost a decade just to get knocked out the 2nd round every year ☹️
I never felt more ashamed as a Man from Philly 😔
Me personally I just gave up on them I'm now a Bucks fan now
🦌Go Bucks🦌
And
🇬🇷Go Giannis🇬🇷
@@StarStruck7900😂😂😂 thats crazy
@@Justfranktbh What can I say? It's hard to root for a team that plays like trash.
As a sixers fan, the last few years have been torture. Losing Jimmy for Tobi or Ben might sting the worst if not for our awful drafts besides Joel. I really have no care for next season and seriously doubt we'll be up to par over the next few years. They tricked me last post season but the writing was on the wall early in the 2nd round exit. I imagine it'll be the same if not a 1st round exit this year. Also Jokic deserved the MVP over Joel.
If I say embiid is asking out soon woukd that sound crazy?😂
DEFINITELY not a Sixers fan
@@Ohitsmyturn how so?
You called that one.
@@Ohitsmyturn you wanna give me my flowers yet?
returning after they lost in the first round
Just give them some more years trust me guys
😂
Say that every year …..😂😂😂😂
The process has failed and if anybody disagrees you don't know ball
they also got really unlucky with markelle fultz and ben simmons just not wanting to play
The process didn’t fail because they got exactly what they wanted out of it. A mvp caliber player which they got. The reason it failed was because of all the horrible decisions like letting jimmy walk and then handing Tobias over 100 million dollars.
@@reidbonvillain5135 So what they wanted was to make themselves the joke of the league for like 4 years so they could one guy that's currently seen as the most overrated player in the league? That just feels like the NBA equivalent of the Mission Accomplished banner.
@@reidbonvillain5135it has failed
@@bigbearkat2010the are contenders now though. They are way better than where they were losing so many regular season games.
As a Celtics Fan, I love the fact that we got Al Horford back and he got his vengeance against Philly, GO C’s 🍀
Jimmy butler
@@Griffman08no rings as well!
Al Horford got vengeance for what? 76ers gave him a bag and then traded him back to where he was happiest. Dude probably loves the Sixers. I know his bank account does.
@@michaelpantano3324 traded him back cause he played horrible and wasn’t happy, thats a bad trade for Philly. Good for big Al, but if I’m a 76ers fan, and I have ton of friends that are, that was a wasted roster spot for that season when he was there. Danilo Gallanari last year was a complete waste of money and a roster spot cause he literally never played a single minute in the regular season
I’m a sixers fan and the process just gave me no faith in this organization that I have loved my whole life. We could have drafted so many superstar talents, and instead we got a ton of busts. We could have been in the finals multiple times, but instead, our bad front office put together a team that couldn’t even get past the SECOND ROUND of the playoffs. We could have drafted players like Jokic, Tatum, Jalen Brown, and Donovan Mitchell, but we had a team that was built around Ben Simmons. We could have been happy, excited fans, but instead, we are all just waiting to lose in the playoffs yet again. This basketball team is absolutely miserable.
Stop with this draft bullshit. You sixers always act like Ben Simmons wasn't consensus no 1 pick. You had tons of all-star level players, problem wasn't the draft, problem was you didn't know how to develop them. Also you guys always giving Embiid a pass whenever he underperforms boosting his ego and not developing into a proper leader.
You can’t blame your team for not drafting Jokic, literally every team passed on him, he wasn’t even the first pick for the Nuggets.
sooooooooo many missed players like i knew abt all of them but seeing this break down just like oh god and the fact that mikal bridges wanted to play for the 76ers bc he is from philly like that has got to hurrrtttt && then jimmy butler the heat gained such a great player/teammate/leader w/ him. but i have faith in embiid.
Love the content!
"His jump shot disappeared like a fart in the wind." 😂
As a Celtics fan. Playing the Sixers in the playoffs is like Nick Wrights “better than a bye” lol. Just warms us up for the ECF
To answer the last question, yes, the process was a failure. A lot of teams had more success than the Sixers did and some won a championship without tanking the way they did during those 11 year span.
trae young hawks had more success lmfao
Nuggets too
@@PjTheHero 1 WCF appearance is more success?
@@jordancada Nuggets got Jojic by accident, every team passed on him at least once and he was a multi year project.
@@shawndavis1480 proof that developement is sometimes better than drafting pure talent
"Congratulations your team STILL can't get past the second round!"
2018: "We're young, we have more time to evolve!"
2019: "We took the Raptors to game 7!"
2020: "Horford stinks!"
2021: "Simmons stinks!"
2022: "Harden needs more time to gel!"
2023: "...now what?"
Another second round exit, that’s what
7:46 Bro had me thinking Ben Simmons averaged 8 blocks 🤣 had to look that up cus i was almost flabbergasted
The process created a losing culture. This is why the 76ers haven't succeeded.
Getting sent home in the 2nd round and the Sixers. Name a more iconic duo😂
Winning mindset makes up for talent. Ask Miami. My question is how much did OKC learn from sixers? They have done a great job of rebuilding
That is it right there! You can have all the talent in the world if you don't create the winning type atmosphere then you won't win. Nick Nurse I believe will change that for them.
100% correct. 10 years of purposely losing creating an awful culture. That’s why Bulter wanted out. Sixers management expectation is aiming for draft picks, now winning games.
@@MrOccyc Absolutely correct. Loser like Hinkie (and the "fans" that cheered him on) think that "assets" = winning. They think sports are a mathematical equation. They fail to realize that the heart of all sports in competition and winning, NOT formulas and "assets".
Booker... giannis?....Tatum... Bridges... MPJ...
I dont think ive ever seen a team miss so many draft picks 😮
To be fair, MPJ was a significant risk in terms of actually contributing due to the type of injury he suffered in collage, and I say this as a Nuggets fan.
Other than Fultz and Mikal the 76ers made the best decision at the time. Hindsight only goes so far
@@Safarizoned they drafted embiid ... then drafted noel and okafor... miss ..miss
@@MrJreed1000 yeah but at the time they weren't considered bad picks. The problem is they ended up being lowkey busts
Lakers have done worse😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Weird how many people overlook this but its kinda obvious why embiid is a post season choker. Referees allow during playoffs for players to play more physical ball which is resulting in embiid getting less foul calls and therefore he is much less productive which makes him shut down totally cuz of that loser mentality he has. So he is literally a glorified flopper who gets exposed every playoff.
Same for Harden
@@El_reecio He's just not built for the bright lights. An incredible player but he chokes like a mf when it matters the most.
@@OkagaCaliforniahe can’t be the best player on a contending team. That requires a level of passion and intensity that he just doesn’t have. I’m not even trying to hate on him because there’s maybe 3-4 guys in the whole league who are good enough to be that guy. It’s just a reality that teams can’t seem to grasp.
@@jamiegaskins3687facts bro
Philly hasn’t been past the second round since Iverson was tearing up the league 20 years ago. They’re the most overhyped team of the last 3-4 years.
Their worst mistake was to let Jimmy Freaking Butler go.
The fact that Harden wanted to go back to a sorry ass Houston team should tell you not keep him.
As a sixers fan, it is sad and infuriating to see all the mistakes
That roster before "the process" sounds solid, I have to say.
Fire video
in the words of giannis there is no such thing as failure only the steps to success
The league owes an apology to these fans. The process was a failure. All that losing for second round exits… they had a second round loss the year before the process
At the time, I kept hearing how the Spurs wouldn't have had their run if not for tanking to get Duncan in order to justify perpetual tanking. The difference is that this was one season because their best player suffered a season-ending injury. David Robinson had too much integrity to stick around a situation like that.
The big part that people keep missing is that tanking created a losing mentality that could never be overcome. Even when the Sixers had good players, they got rid of them for fear that their tanking would be sabotaged. A bunch of players they got rid of were key parts of championship or at least Finals runs, so it almost.seemed like they were moved because they were too good.
"TOBIAS HARRIS OVER ME?!?!"
Philly was an embarassment to the league with their process. They proved that even if you luck out and get a good team, the organization has been tanking for so long they didn't know how to win when it mattered. The Heat is the opposite of the Sixers and have been more exciting for the league than the Sixers. If more teams played to win, it would elevate their fanbases and there would be more interesting storylines. Once Embiid leaves, the process will have been for nothing.
"Once Embiid leaves the process will have been for nothing." The point of the process was to draft and develop an MVP caliber player, which they did. You expect him to stay for his whole career? Noone does that.
@@shawndavis1480eh some people have but i doubt embiid would stay for his entire career
You can look at most of those players now in hindsight and say the Sixers could've drafted someone else, but at the time most of those were the right call outside of Okafor and trading away Bridges.
As a Heat fan I appreciate that they chose Tobias Harris over Himmy Butler
lol who’s watching this after the 76ers lost to the Knicks 😅😅😅
Being a 76ers fan gotta be the one of the hardest things to be
Being a Hornets or Blazer fan is worse
It feels like being an Eagles fan during the Chip Kelly/Mark Sanchez/Sam Bradford era
W video like all ways nonstop sports
Made this video one day too early. James Harden wants out lol😂
Yes, "The Process" was a failure. It started in 2012 with the 76ers getting eliminated in the second-round of the playoffs. Philly did all of that tanking, trading, and signing to end up in the same place 11 years later in 2023. It's going to be a cautionary tale for all future tanking teams. The Basketball Gods frown on long-term tanking.
Unless u are the Spurs lol. The Spurs tanking landed them Tim Duncan
@@pattycakes1439and when they did it was for 1 season, because Robinson got injured. They hit the jackpot and got a great player that’s not injury prone 💀
the only player worth in "The process" was Embiid and even he has resume as fake MVP. Everything with 76ers is fake
What about Maxey?
Watching this all back hurts my soul. 😢😩
"His shot dissipated like a fart in the wind"😂
The old Ben Simmons was a very strong point guard.
I don’t know why everyone seems to ignore that fact. Simmons was just a sorry scorer. He was still a really good ball distributor and an elite defender. Philly should have stuck with him to be honest. Just take him out the game in the final 3mins
We not gonna talk about how it said Simmons averaged 8 blocks?
I saw that😂
The way some of his stans hype up his defense, somebody might actually believe that, like those dudes that make political points by quoting the Onion.
Simmons also is a major bust
If there are basketball gods they gave the sixers ben simmons as punishment for all the tanking 😂😂😂
This video explains my life being a Sixers fan.
Nah Philly sports gotta have some sort of curse, the 76ers have to be one of the worst run franchises in the NBA. Without embiid theyd have not Made the playoffs for the entirerety of the process
The process didnt consider shooting and true leadership. Tobias Harris? Ben Simmons? Butler made more Finals Appearances than the entire sixers roster during the process combined.
Hindsights 20/20. Any team was taking simmons 1st OA that year.
This might be the most painful thing I have ever had to watch
Its a travesty the 76ers never truly were punished for tanking for 4 years straight
Jimmy could have saved this team.
Jimmy could have saved Minnesota.
Both teams stacked with young players.. but young players that are paid aren’t players that are hungry..
I wont called it a total Failed. The process itself is a great strategy and rewarding 76ers amazingly, the failed part come from the individuals and luck. If they dont tank those years they likely will be another Hornets or Magics.
More like another Pistons💀
@@nolimitr86 There are like 10 teams that been mediocre for the last decade. There are Hornets, Magic, Piston, Wizards, Knicks, Jazz, Trailblazers, Kings, etc. They are all at their best time of the decade still a non-contenders.
@@sticket5480 the 76ers are relevant because of an MVP Caliber player, once it GOES out the window it's wraps. It's not like they are some Lakers, Knicks or Celtics.
@@nolimitr86Which is from the success of “The Process”
Lol 50 seconds into the video and you described everything to know about the Philadelphia 76ers - *2nd round exit*
Shout out to all the players Philly traded in this timeframe.
They did you a favour 😂
I’m a 76ers fan, and YES the process was a ‘failure’. Embiid (((This seasons MVP, either you like it or not)))can’t do everything by himself, I’m not just blaming Ben, but keeping Doc around to long.
I used to think that doc was a good coach who got fired for his players but honestly he’s just riding the coattails off the 08 championship
@@IsaacMiller-bd8hg Yes! As a personality, he is someone that sells himself really great. I tried to believe in him but like you said 2008 is what most of us remember. He’s just don’t seem like a very intelligent Coach, I think Nick Nurse will hold everyone accountable.🙏
Embiid has a heavy work load, but is a huge playoff choker. In this last elimination game he was outscored by both Tobias Harris and Tyrese Maxey. He lacks accountability for his actions. I think everyone is underrating embiid rn because of the 2nd round exit. A lot of the criticism is warranted tho. He doesn't even need to score at the same volume as he did in the regular. His efficiency plummeting in the post-season is a real issue.
You are delusional sixers fan. Yeah, embiid cant do everything by himself, but he needs to do anything in post season instead of disappearing into thin air every season. Dude has loser mentality and its painfully obvious to everyone except delusional fans like you.
@@BarshBananagan Your ABSOLUTELY right! You are absolutely right about that everything you said. 💯 You broke everything down.
Tough for Philly fans man. Tanked for 10 years and never made the ECF 😂 and now they're on the verge of another rebuild 😭😭😭
As a Sixers fan
I think it’s safe to say that the process was the process being a failing franchise
When the new regime took over for Herb Kohl in Milwaukee, we did a “process” called “OWN THE FUTURE” where our team was bad, but had the talent of Giannis, Jabari Parker and Khris Middleton. Sure it was a bumpy road, but the year the Bucks made the ECF against Toronto, the motto was now “THE FUTURE IS HERE.” Meaning it was now officially time to compete for the title. Sure it didn’t happen until 2021, but hey… it was worth it lol
"markelle fultz shot disappeared like a fart in the wind" 😂
Now harden refuses to play for them
Coming back to this post now is great. I hate Philly with a passion, but the sixers now look fantastic. They just needed to put more trust in Maxey and get rid of James Hasbeen. The sixers are sitting on top and looking like contenders. What the sixers needed to learn is that “the process” isn’t trading for “the best” players. “The process” is growing true talent like Maxey and letting him become an all star. And now they are doing it.
"Tobias Harris OVER ME" - Jimmy Buckets spitting REAL TALK DUDE. hahaha
I think one of these videos on the current OKC would be fun, but they just don’t have to wait for the process. But okc are still going, and getting better
Don't laugh at a kid that believes in Santa Claus if you're a grown adult trusting "the process"
I remember when “trust what process” was trending on Twitter after Trae Young and the Hawks embarrassed them the entire series and eliminated them on Sixers court 😂
Keep up the great work Nonstop!
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Imagine waiting 10 years for nothing😂
Jimmy Butler didn't question Ben Simmons Mentality. Man was guarding the best players and hustking every night.
"Error: The Process.exe has failed. Sorry for the long wait, please try again."
Who’s here after harden called morey a liar ?
Selecting Markelle Fultz, trading up for him actually over Jaysum Tatum was the end of that so called The Process
The process will always be forever stuck 😂
To quote UrinatingTree:
Al Horford is the biggest Philly troll.
Thankyou so much for jimmy b, sixers :)
-heat fan
this is an epic in mismanagement.
Embiid and Doc Rivers didn’t throw Ben Simmons under the bus. Ben dove underneath the bus.😂 Yes, “The Process” was a failure.
The process failed, but it kind of worked in the short term, when Ben and Joel weren’t injured.
Please make a video of Saquon Barkley’s workout and diet 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Is "The Process" a failure? I have to be objective and say "yes". The goal of deliberately tanking and stocking up draft picks was to build a championship winning team, so anything short of actually hoisting that Larry O'Brien Trophy is definitely considered a failure in my books. It's kind of ironic too, that before and during the Process era, the 2nd round has always been the boogeyman for this team. You blew the team up cause you are sick of being bounced in the 2nd round, waited and toiled into building a contender, and STILL get bounced in the 2nd round.
Elton Brand was never fired, still holds the position of GM. There are a few other inaccuracies in this video
“Colangelo was hired as Hinkie’s replacement.” Yeah he was hired… by Adam Silver.
As a Sixers fan, I shouldn't have watched this