@@zekeharris5276 Sftu minnesota is one of if not the best team in the nba right now, they didn’t need those players, they just kept building a squad that’s great on offense and defence, and that last part is mainly thanks to Gobert
@@benadrylcucumberman981 bro they were terrible last year. So half a season of good play is equal to 5 players and 4 picks? 2nd round exit at best isn't worth all of that. And they gave up defensive talent to aquire him which just makes it a bad trade
Don't be so quick to downplay this trade. It was more than just a copy machine. It printed and copy too. That's like having a franchise player in your office back in 2003.
As a Timberwolves fan, I was hella annoyed with the Gobert trade at first. Really seemed like a rash decision (to say the least). However, this 2023-2024 season, he's proven to be one of the more valuable members of the team in many occasions and is on track to win his 4th DPOY with our #1 D.
Minnesota having Anthony Edwards and the young supporting cast it does is another reason I thought calling the Gobert trade the worst of all time was a highly exaggerated claim.
Few things: - The TWolves trade seemed bad at the time and is still an overpay, but Minnesota's 1st in the west and is a surefire contender. - Ainge gave up a boatload of picks in that 2007 trade (7 alone for KG iirc) so if they didn't win a title it was a failure. (Edit: should also mention that this team almost failed multiple times: they went to 7 against the 8th-seeded Hawks and LeBron’s Cavs, then 6 games each against Detroit and LA., including a 24-point comeback in Game 3 of the Finals.) - Fultz ruined his shoulder, but he would've been a star had that not happened. - Kobe refused to play for the Hornets. - Rodman was an absolute cancer on the Spurs. He didn't stick to defensive assignments, constantly misbehaved, and was a huge reason they lost in the 1995 playoffs.
@@JacksonWalter735 Kobe and Pau only beat them once. In 2009 KG got injured and missed the entire postseason. Orlando beat them in 7. And in 2010 all the big three were noticeably worse than in 2008, especially KG. Boston also didn’t have Perk so Pau feasted. LA wasn’t as top-heavy but their team was constructed way better, and they had Phil Jackson while Boston had Doc Rivers. So the fact it was even close says something imo.
Saying the wolves won 41 games with rudy without mentioning kat's 60+ missed games is a huge cherry pick lmfao. Saying kessler played better defense is fine, he did slightly. But let's not leave out the fact rudy averages 2x as many points and like 5 more rebounds per game.
You released this 41 min ago knowing Gobert is a rebounding/block league leader on the #1 team on the West while Kessler and Vando are coming off the bench in reduced roles lol nooooo way
@@Heyjjay0 So Kessler, playing 18 min off the bench for Utah is a real star, but Gobert starting for the #1 Wolves is not. Got it. I never said he was a star btw, I said he was a rebounding/block leader, which is undisputed fact. The Moses Malone example was better, I wish this video started with that. Overall it's a good video.
Gobert was an overpay for sure, but shouldn’t be part of this list. Kessler’s stats show he is actually one of the best run defenders in the league right now with opponents shooting 20% below their average. Insane.
One thing people overlook about the Rudy Gobert trade is that the Timberwolves did it to surround Anthony Edwards with winning basketball early in his career, which is something that they massively failed at when developing Kevin Love, Ricky Rubio and then Towns and Wiggins. While Rudy Gobert hasn't had the most success in the postseason he's been on team's that at least made the playoffs every year which Minnesota can't say has been accomplished since the KG day's
@@JJeremy0 how they gonna pay all of them? Rudy's contract is massive. They already have Rudy, Kat and Ant on max contract.Ant and Jaden Macdaniel are still on their rookie/smaller deal, Conley is expiring. Naz Ried is prolly gonna demand more money. Their window for a chip is not long IMO. They are already near the salary cap this season, and next season it will be higher.
That Westbrook one was personal huh lol. And the spurs trading Rodman isn’t even all that bad. It was all about fit. Rodman was NOT going to play with Pop and the spurs.
I’m far from a wolves fan. But this season definitely changed the narrative of the trade. As of right now it absolutely seems worth it. Now they still overpayed a lot but the trade isn’t a failure.
about gobert trade, more stupid is how the jazz almost lost their potential from gobert trade literally to nothing. looking at the mitchell trade, i can say that jazz' gm need a break
The second I heard the Gobert trade being brought up I knew this dude has no real nba knowledge whatsoever, the Gobert trade was well and truly worth it. What did the wolves really give up? A few late first rounders and a few average role players??? They’re now first seed in the west and have been for 2 months, and they have by far the best defensive team in the league. They literally got exactly what they wanted. Bro has absolutely no ball knowledge
Both things can be true at the same time. It wasn't one of the worst trades but they still overpaid for him, I mean compared to other stars, the amount they traded for to what they got. They definitely overpaid. But Gobert isn't a bad player by any means and the media and people were unfair. He needed to adjust to the system which last year was just bad. But glad that they're at the top of the world rn and as someone who doubted Gobert, I'm happy to be wrong.
I really don't think it was that big of an overpay honestly. It was a bunch of role players and a few late picks for the best rim protector in the entire league. The system wasn't bad last year, there was just a ton of injuries and the team never actually got a chance to gel and figure things out. It's just a horrific choice to put him in this video, especially first.@@blackhand8299
I think an underrated dumb trade in nba history was Milwaukee's Damian Lillard trade. It doesn't work as expected and they sent Jrue Holiday to their rival, Boston
As a wolves fan, The Gobert trade turned out to be great. All the first round picks are overrated. And this season, Gobert was way better than those 5 players that were traded. Gobert is as valuable as Ant and KAT come playoffs time
@@John-b8k5hjust because those picks were just role players doesn't mean they didn't overpaid. All it took was 1 good Player and it would be even harder to justify the Gobert Trade as it is.
@blackhand8299 so who is the one good player? A guy from a draft pick 4 years from now?? What is your point? Unfortunately, the Wolves are good, but will not win a championship until KAT is traded.
@@ry_an.🤦 The Warriors lost the Finals in 2016, so does that make them not a dynasty? This take is dumb as shit. If they hadn't of traded Harden they likely win at least one championship. He's not saying they WERE a dynasty but could have BEEN ONE!
@@Cooe. the warriors already won a chip and won back to back. OKC made the finals ONE time. Even with harden they probably don’t win seeing as harden shot 36% in the finals and we know he’s not a big game guy
It’s great that Gobert and the Wolves are playing much better this season, but I also understand the true value of this trade is gonna be judged in the playoffs.
Let's not forget when the Knicks threw away their whole core of players, even the water boy, to get Melo early midway season when they could've just waited till summer to get him for free and keep a really good team.
@@SIB-6 that's partially Melo fault though he didn't get along with anyone he was the one who demanded the Knicks move Lin after he missed games with injuries plus he's the one who wanted Amare Stoudemire even though he was super injury prone at the time.
@@Reese1882yw not only that, he was the one who constantly demanded both Denver and Knicks to do the trade ASAP, and because of his desperation and Knicks FOMO effect they went with it, which did them wrong.
@@redmangoose182 they had Ibaka already but they didn’t want to go into luxury tax and people forgot that Harden played horrible in the finals that year.
Yes, because Harden was wont 3 championships since the trade...oh, he's not won a single thing! And Houston gave up their future for Harden in the form of a lot of draft picks. Harden wasn't going to sign any free agent deal with OKC so why not get something out of it? One of those draft picks became Steven Adams. Harden had already declined the offer made by OKC. This was a no-brainer and our forgetfulness shouldn't make us think the trade was bad.
As an OKC Thunder fan I still can't believe OKC traded Harden. The mistake that they made was signing Ibaka first for 48 million which didn't leave enough to give Harden a legit offer. They should have waited to sign Ibaka and made sure they locked Harden down and then if they lost Ibaka so be it. Ibaka was the expendable player, not Harden. Had they kept KD, Russ and Harden together the Warriors dynasty never would have happened because OKC would have been kicking their ass every year on their way to multiple championships.
Don’t forget Utah traded Trey Lyles and the 24th pick in the 2017 draft to Denver for the 13th pick. Utah took Donovan Mitchell at 13. In 2013 Utah traded the 46th pick and cash to Denver for the 27th pick. Utah drafted Rudy at 27. Denver won a title so fans cant really complain, but those are some lopsided trades.
I know Marc gasol was an amazing player before anything, but k Brown for pau gasol was crazy at the time haha, I Loved gasol on the grizzly and thought he was super underrated since West has kg on wolves and Duncan and saw him play a bit of times, and he was always with Spain for Olympics.
As an Orlando Magic fan, the first thing that came to mind was Rob Dumbass Hennigan trading Victor Oladipo, Sabonis (2 future all stars) and draft capital to OKC for Serge Ibaka (Out of the league a few years later). That's an all timer right there.
It gets even crazier when you realize Sam Presti used the same package (Oladipo+Sabonis) to get Paul George in a win-win trade with the Pacers. Not to mention what he got for PG from the Clippers. Man, he sure compensated for that Harden trade.
Tim Connally made the Gobert trade which is ironic because of all the shrewd picks he made for Denver. He helped build Denver into the championship team, Calvin Booth put the perfect finishing touches on it.
The Timberwolves have spent more time as the 1 seed this season than the rest of franchise history combined and have the best defensive rating in the league. I feel like they dont have many complaints atm.
“The harden trade marked the beginning of the end for the Thunder dynasty” What? We had no dynasty. We were a super young team with one finals appearance. We continued to be contenders for the next few seasons until KD left. That comment doesn’t make any sense.
Being a Celtics fan for the last 30 years, It was really difficult seeing Paul leave. I thought the Celtics got fleeced, until the draft picks started piling in. Great trade by Ainge
Should've added the hawks trading Luka to the mavs for Trae young, no disrespect to Young he's a good player but Luka is arguably one of the top 5 best players in the world right now
Wtf is this hate against Gobert ???? Do you even make sense ???? They are the first team in the West, how do you even think it's not worth ??????????????
Rudy is getting another DPOY This year and is playing the best defense of his career. Don’t know if i can make it through the video talking about Kessler and vando are better defenders
People in the comments saying Gobert is a good trade now calm down it’s barely half way into the season and they will probably just bail out in the playoffs 😂😂😂
The 1998 decision wasnt that bad Robert Taylor just had more to go off which made gm trust him no one really knew how great Dirk could be until his 4th year in Dallas
Adrian Dantley made every team he played for worse. It's not a coincidence that the year the pistons traded Dantley for Mark Aguirre, they immediately won back to back championships with basically the identical roster. Bob McAdoo did win an MVP but is considered by most NBA historians as one of the weakest MVPs in undoubtedly the weakest NBA Era. He also wasn't a winner until he became a sixth man/ role player. I'm surprised the Magic Johnson trade isn't on here cause that literally started the showtime Lakers and he's considered by most a top 5 player of all time and the goat of all PGs. Also, I agree with all the comments saying the Gobert trade should no longer be on this list. As a nuggets fan, you should have mentioned how we gave the timber wolves the 13th pick, which was used on Donovan Mitchell, for Trey effing Lyles AND we also traded the 27th pick to the Timberwolves which was used to draft Rudy Gobert so yeah....
Yeah and also imagine 0 rim protection. Biggest part the wolves are the one seed is them allowing least ppg in the west by a pretty far margin. I would still nut if wolves had KD to be fair
@@Boof37 dude KD is a 1 in a million opportunity! There is no other player like KD in the nba and there probably will never be!! But for gobert there’s guys in the league currently arguably even better than him. Minnesota overpaid for a player that can be easily replaced but you can’t ever get a KD
@@thecoolrich no they wouldn't. If you're the Suns, why give up a in your words "1 in a million player" for some scrubs and 5 firsts? That's basically asking you to get fired as a GM and fr your team to be stuck in BBall hell
Rudy gobert trade isnt bad anymore cuz twolves won 56 games, rudy won 4th dpoy, and they beat the defending champions and made the wcf while having the best defense in the league
Bradley Beal to the Suns is going to go down as one of, if not THE worst moves ever in the NBA. The Suns as of right now don't have any first round picks until 2031.
Okay to be fair to the Spurs, that “Best rebounder” has a lot other strings attached that are not going to show up in basketball stats, except maybe technical fouls and ejections. My favorite Dennis Rodman fact is that as of recently he was good personal friends with Kim Jong Un, and has spent more time in his presence and more time visiting North Korea, than any other American.
As a Thunder stan the trade was dumb with Harden but we really had a better record without Kev Martin, and would've went back to the chip had it not been for a injury
Honestly as a Lakers fan when Russ trade happened i told myself wtf manager thinking... And that Kobe trade for Divac was Jerry Wests genius if im remembering right.
The Spurs trading Rodman had nothing to do with talent and everything to do with his attitude. Perdue was also a big part of the Spurs 99 championship.
Man this season is proving the Gobert trade wasn’t THAT bad
It was bad stop it
@@zekeharris5276Minnesota is 1 in the west lmao?!
@@zekeharris5276 Sftu minnesota is one of if not the best team in the nba right now, they didn’t need those players, they just kept building a squad that’s great on offense and defence, and that last part is mainly thanks to Gobert
@@benadrylcucumberman981 bro they were terrible last year. So half a season of good play is equal to 5 players and 4 picks? 2nd round exit at best isn't worth all of that. And they gave up defensive talent to aquire him which just makes it a bad trade
@@benadrylcucumberman981 still a bad trade. sure he is playing well but it was too much for a player of goberts quality still stupid
The fact that the Kyle Korver for a copy machine trade isn't on this list just shows you how good that copy machine was
Don't be so quick to downplay this trade. It was more than just a copy machine. It printed and copy too. That's like having a franchise player in your office back in 2003.
@@tedmoise1398 And it faxed too.
Michael Bolton has no complaints
I didn't know about this story. It's unbeliavable. It's incredible how short sighted a GM can be. Traded him for a couple thousand dollars
Nah hawks traded Korver to the cavs for a bag of chips and paper clips
As a Timberwolves fan, I was hella annoyed with the Gobert trade at first. Really seemed like a rash decision (to say the least). However, this 2023-2024 season, he's proven to be one of the more valuable members of the team in many occasions and is on track to win his 4th DPOY with our #1 D.
Totally agree
Minnesota having Anthony Edwards and the young supporting cast it does is another reason I thought calling the Gobert trade the worst of all time was a highly exaggerated claim.
All those trades and losses of picks just to not even make it out of the first round. Bet.
@@newthrash1221 Didn't the wolves play the nuggets lol ofc they would get wacked
@@Is0keem Think he’s saying that’ll happen again this year, which whatever. No one believes in a long struggling team until they prove it.
Few things:
- The TWolves trade seemed bad at the time and is still an overpay, but Minnesota's 1st in the west and is a surefire contender.
- Ainge gave up a boatload of picks in that 2007 trade (7 alone for KG iirc) so if they didn't win a title it was a failure. (Edit: should also mention that this team almost failed multiple times: they went to 7 against the 8th-seeded Hawks and LeBron’s Cavs, then 6 games each against Detroit and LA., including a 24-point comeback in Game 3 of the Finals.)
- Fultz ruined his shoulder, but he would've been a star had that not happened.
- Kobe refused to play for the Hornets.
- Rodman was an absolute cancer on the Spurs. He didn't stick to defensive assignments, constantly misbehaved, and was a huge reason they lost in the 1995 playoffs.
All big facts. 💯
No, Hornets-Lakers trade was under table agreement.
@@bumblebity2902 yeah Lakers asked Hornets to pick Kobe, Hornets didn't even know this dude and just picked him cause Lakers asked for it
Context matters.
@@JacksonWalter735 Kobe and Pau only beat them once. In 2009 KG got injured and missed the entire postseason. Orlando beat them in 7. And in 2010 all the big three were noticeably worse than in 2008, especially KG. Boston also didn’t have Perk so Pau feasted. LA wasn’t as top-heavy but their team was constructed way better, and they had Phil Jackson while Boston had Doc Rivers. So the fact it was even close says something imo.
That bill russell one was crazy
Ice skating equals 11 championship now that's wild 😂😂😂😂
Saying the wolves won 41 games with rudy without mentioning kat's 60+ missed games is a huge cherry pick lmfao. Saying kessler played better defense is fine, he did slightly. But let's not leave out the fact rudy averages 2x as many points and like 5 more rebounds per game.
Rudy is definitely better on defense
@@teenoneofyabusiness1424 im talking about last season and it was kind of close between gobert and kessler last year
You released this 41 min ago knowing Gobert is a rebounding/block league leader on the #1 team on the West while Kessler and Vando are coming off the bench in reduced roles lol nooooo way
Gobert is overrated he really is not a star and honestly Kessler is would’ve did well in Minnesota
@@Heyjjay0 So Kessler, playing 18 min off the bench for Utah is a real star, but Gobert starting for the #1 Wolves is not. Got it. I never said he was a star btw, I said he was a rebounding/block leader, which is undisputed fact. The Moses Malone example was better, I wish this video started with that. Overall it's a good video.
Gobert was an overpay for sure, but shouldn’t be part of this list.
Kessler’s stats show he is actually one of the best run defenders in the league right now with opponents shooting 20% below their average. Insane.
@@Heyjjay0anyone who says Gobert is overrated truly does NOT watch basketball and gets all their takes online
@@Heyjjay0 Kessler is a meh player, he has no mental
One thing people overlook about the Rudy Gobert trade is that the Timberwolves did it to surround Anthony Edwards with winning basketball early in his career, which is something that they massively failed at when developing Kevin Love, Ricky Rubio and then Towns and Wiggins. While Rudy Gobert hasn't had the most success in the postseason he's been on team's that at least made the playoffs every year which Minnesota can't say has been accomplished since the KG day's
Still an overpay imo, they basically have no picks in the near future, how will they continue to build, free agents.... Nah Rudy is earning too much.
@@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665they don’t need picks Anthony Edwards Jaden McDaniels and naz Reid ARE the future.
@@JJeremy0 how they gonna pay all of them? Rudy's contract is massive. They already have Rudy, Kat and Ant on max contract.Ant and Jaden Macdaniel are still on their rookie/smaller deal, Conley is expiring. Naz Ried is prolly gonna demand more money. Their window for a chip is not long IMO. They are already near the salary cap this season, and next season it will be higher.
@@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665 read my comment again clown
@@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665clueless
That Westbrook one was personal huh lol. And the spurs trading Rodman isn’t even all that bad. It was all about fit. Rodman was NOT going to play with Pop and the spurs.
Will Purdue helped them win in 1999 too
@@DMalltheway see man that’s what I’m saying. Thank you
Yeah...zero chance Rodman would've played for Pop
@@DMallthewayTim and David nearly died from the carrying bro
I’m far from a wolves fan. But this season definitely changed the narrative of the trade. As of right now it absolutely seems worth it. Now they still overpayed a lot but the trade isn’t a failure.
it was still an overpay
@@INVINCIBLE-qs7no Didnt he state that it was an overpay? No one is arguing with you 😂
So 5 first round picks its worth it for a 1st seed a couple of months?
@@andresscott3927 Read my last sentence again bozo.
@@andresscott39274 26-30th picks are not good lol
about gobert trade, more stupid is how the jazz almost lost their potential from gobert trade literally to nothing. looking at the mitchell trade, i can say that jazz' gm need a break
The second I heard the Gobert trade being brought up I knew this dude has no real nba knowledge whatsoever, the Gobert trade was well and truly worth it. What did the wolves really give up? A few late first rounders and a few average role players??? They’re now first seed in the west and have been for 2 months, and they have by far the best defensive team in the league. They literally got exactly what they wanted. Bro has absolutely no ball knowledge
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yeah what a shit video, agree
Both things can be true at the same time. It wasn't one of the worst trades but they still overpaid for him, I mean compared to other stars, the amount they traded for to what they got. They definitely overpaid. But Gobert isn't a bad player by any means and the media and people were unfair. He needed to adjust to the system which last year was just bad. But glad that they're at the top of the world rn and as someone who doubted Gobert, I'm happy to be wrong.
I really don't think it was that big of an overpay honestly. It was a bunch of role players and a few late picks for the best rim protector in the entire league. The system wasn't bad last year, there was just a ton of injuries and the team never actually got a chance to gel and figure things out. It's just a horrific choice to put him in this video, especially first.@@blackhand8299
I think an underrated dumb trade in nba history was Milwaukee's Damian Lillard trade. It doesn't work as expected and they sent Jrue Holiday to their rival, Boston
Dame is overrated, but Jrue Holiday is also not in his prime.
As a wolves fan, The Gobert trade turned out to be great. All the first round picks are overrated. And this season, Gobert was way better than those 5 players that were traded. Gobert is as valuable as Ant and KAT come playoffs time
All those players are trash role players. Creator of this video doesn't follow the Wolves.
@@John-b8k5hjust because those picks were just role players doesn't mean they didn't overpaid. All it took was 1 good Player and it would be even harder to justify the Gobert Trade as it is.
not alone, old dude named Michael the best PG in this situation
@blackhand8299 so who is the one good player? A guy from a draft pick 4 years from now?? What is your point? Unfortunately, the Wolves are good, but will not win a championship until KAT is traded.
It's crazy how as soon as James got traded he turned into the one of the best players in the league
He won 6MOTY with OKC, he was playing 3rd fiddle in that team, the potential to be the main guy was there even before the trade.
@@RafitoOoOyea but when he left he won mvp then was the best player in the league
People don't understand that Harden would never be nearly as good if he stayed in OKC.
Because his usage rate shot to the sky no longer having two better players above him
@Goatlikeitornot stat wise yes. But in terms of efficiency, no. Harden was at his most efficient in OKC.
Kobe forced the hornets arms and said that he would only play for the Lakers. The hornets really didn't have a choice but to trade him.
it was because he had a workout with them
@@jp23x yep. A classic example of LA's big market advantage.
Calling okc a dynasty is a BIIIIG stretch
We're saying they could of been a dynasty had they not traded Harden. 😂
@@nonstophow can you be a dynasty when you lose in the finals
@@ry_an.🤦 The Warriors lost the Finals in 2016, so does that make them not a dynasty? This take is dumb as shit. If they hadn't of traded Harden they likely win at least one championship. He's not saying they WERE a dynasty but could have BEEN ONE!
@@Cooe. the warriors already won a chip and won back to back. OKC made the finals ONE time. Even with harden they probably don’t win seeing as harden shot 36% in the finals and we know he’s not a big game guy
It’s great that Gobert and the Wolves are playing much better this season, but I also understand the true value of this trade is gonna be judged in the playoffs.
Let's not forget when the Knicks threw away their whole core of players, even the water boy, to get Melo early midway season when they could've just waited till summer to get him for free and keep a really good team.
Lakers did the same thing with AD he had been vocal about playing in LA two seasons before the trade😂
Yeah but it is a little different because LA won a ring and the knicks were just kinda mid while Melo was there
@@SIB-6 that's partially Melo fault though he didn't get along with anyone he was the one who demanded the Knicks move Lin after he missed games with injuries plus he's the one who wanted Amare Stoudemire even though he was super injury prone at the time.
@@Reese1882yw not only that, he was the one who constantly demanded both Denver and Knicks to do the trade ASAP, and because of his desperation and Knicks FOMO effect they went with it, which did them wrong.
@@Reese1882ywAD contract would been restricted, mean the pelicans could match him
As a Pistons fan, that Saddiq Bey trade we had last year was atrocious.
All the pistons trade was bad since Blake left
If wolves win their first championship ever this year, this video will have aged terribly.
They will not, no need to worry
That didn’t happen. Go LUKA😂😂😂
@@briananderson9650 Go Tatum and Brown, heh.
Yea the James Harden trade is dumb in hindsight but in real time it didn’t seem that bad.
Yeah they needed a big in Ibaka from what I remember. Like it made sense at the time. No one knew Harden would blossom like he would.
@@redmangoose182 they had Ibaka already but they didn’t want to go into luxury tax and people forgot that Harden played horrible in the finals that year.
Yes, because Harden was wont 3 championships since the trade...oh, he's not won a single thing! And Houston gave up their future for Harden in the form of a lot of draft picks. Harden wasn't going to sign any free agent deal with OKC so why not get something out of it? One of those draft picks became Steven Adams. Harden had already declined the offer made by OKC. This was a no-brainer and our forgetfulness shouldn't make us think the trade was bad.
And he wasn’t that great as a Thunder.
Yes it did, everybody knew Harden could lead the league in scoring but got low balled for Ibaka’s contract
Hindsight trades shouldn’t be on here. Kobe and Dirk didn’t have the expectations that their careers ended the way the did…
Look at the lakers now lol it definitely wasn't Russell's fault that's for sure 😂
won the ist buddy
It’s a good day when nonstop uploads
As an OKC Thunder fan I still can't believe OKC traded Harden. The mistake that they made was signing Ibaka first for 48 million which didn't leave enough to give Harden a legit offer. They should have waited to sign Ibaka and made sure they locked Harden down and then if they lost Ibaka so be it. Ibaka was the expendable player, not Harden. Had they kept KD, Russ and Harden together the Warriors dynasty never would have happened because OKC would have been kicking their ass every year on their way to multiple championships.
Remember when they had all three in the Finals and still lost?
@@Gig484 Yeah because Brooks kept starting Perkins. They would have made it back to the finals though many times and won multiple championships.
Harden would had walk
Please do more Draft stuff and trades; also about the NFL, thanks ❤️
Don’t forget Utah traded Trey Lyles and the 24th pick in the 2017 draft to Denver for the 13th pick. Utah took Donovan Mitchell at 13.
In 2013 Utah traded the 46th pick and cash to Denver for the 27th pick. Utah drafted Rudy at 27.
Denver won a title so fans cant really complain, but those are some lopsided trades.
I know Marc gasol was an amazing player before anything, but k Brown for pau gasol was crazy at the time haha, I Loved gasol on the grizzly and thought he was super underrated since West has kg on wolves and Duncan and saw him play a bit of times, and he was always with Spain for Olympics.
As an Orlando Magic fan, the first thing that came to mind was Rob Dumbass Hennigan trading Victor Oladipo, Sabonis (2 future all stars) and draft capital to OKC for Serge Ibaka (Out of the league a few years later). That's an all timer right there.
You guys have a solid core now though! Hoping your front office doesn’t screw it up
Ibaka lasted half a year with the magic before being traded to the raptors for Terrence Ross
That gm worked for OKC then went to the magic got fired then went back to OKC. That still gets no attention! 100% inside job
It gets even crazier when you realize Sam Presti used the same package (Oladipo+Sabonis) to get Paul George in a win-win trade with the Pacers.
Not to mention what he got for PG from the Clippers.
Man, he sure compensated for that Harden trade.
Worst trade ever: Prime Gasol for a bag of popcorn.
Tim Connally made the Gobert trade which is ironic because of all the shrewd picks he made for Denver. He helped build Denver into the championship team, Calvin Booth put the perfect finishing touches on it.
LEBRON is not INJURED, HE IS JUST a VERY VERY VERY VERY GOOD ACTOR
Oscar caliber
Bro whatchu mean? Gobert is a beast defensively this year! 🔥
The Rudy trade is an actually looking pretty solid now this season.
The Timberwolves have spent more time as the 1 seed this season than the rest of franchise history combined and have the best defensive rating in the league. I feel like they dont have many complaints atm.
That the Vince Carter trade isn’t on this list tells you how many horrible trades there were in NBA history
Celtics trading away Robert Williams III and Marcus Smart - who are both out of the season immediately - while getting Jrue and KP was gold.
OKC Thunder deserves every spot on this list😂
Not such a stupid trade now after the Timberwolves dethroned Joker's Denver Nuggets in a hard fought series.
The Bobcats training Kobe was one of the biggest mistakes ever
it wasn't because it was under table agreement with LAL
@@JamesMiller-lb3sk Kobe was planning on going to LA the whole time. Similar to what Shaq did to Orlando
Damn, right now Gobert trade seems to have worked perfectly
What right hahaha didn't age well
“The harden trade marked the beginning of the end for the Thunder dynasty”
What? We had no dynasty. We were a super young team with one finals appearance. We continued to be contenders for the next few seasons until KD left. That comment doesn’t make any sense.
Being a Celtics fan for the last 30 years, It was really difficult seeing Paul leave. I thought the Celtics got fleeced, until the draft picks started piling in. Great trade by Ainge
He said jason terry, kg, and paul pierce is 110 years old combine, great counting my boy
The reason the Timberwolves lost more games last year was because KAT was injured for more than half the season
Should've added the hawks trading Luka to the mavs for Trae young, no disrespect to Young he's a good player but Luka is arguably one of the top 5 best players in the world right now
Wtf is this hate against Gobert ????
Do you even make sense ????
They are the first team in the West, how do you even think it's not worth ??????????????
The Bradley Beal trade was absolutely atrocious.
To be fair the Wilt Chamberlain trade made sense for the Warriors financially.
Dude Minnesota is the number 1 in West 2 days after you release the video, how can that be a bad trade?
Rudy is getting another DPOY This year and is playing the best defense of his career. Don’t know if i can make it through the video talking about Kessler and vando are better defenders
People in the comments saying Gobert is a good trade now calm down it’s barely half way into the season and they will probably just bail out in the playoffs 😂😂😂
what about the clippers thunder trade where the clippers got a husk of paul george and the thunder got shai and a decade's worth of first rounders
The 1998 decision wasnt that bad Robert Taylor just had more to go off which made gm trust him no one really knew how great Dirk could be until his 4th year in Dallas
Adrian Dantley made every team he played for worse. It's not a coincidence that the year the pistons traded Dantley for Mark Aguirre, they immediately won back to back championships with basically the identical roster. Bob McAdoo did win an MVP but is considered by most NBA historians as one of the weakest MVPs in undoubtedly the weakest NBA Era. He also wasn't a winner until he became a sixth man/ role player. I'm surprised the Magic Johnson trade isn't on here cause that literally started the showtime Lakers and he's considered by most a top 5 player of all time and the goat of all PGs. Also, I agree with all the comments saying the Gobert trade should no longer be on this list. As a nuggets fan, you should have mentioned how we gave the timber wolves the 13th pick, which was used on Donovan Mitchell, for Trey effing Lyles AND we also traded the 27th pick to the Timberwolves which was used to draft Rudy Gobert so yeah....
Rudy gobert was a bad trade cuz imagine Timberwolves with KD pairing him with Ant man and KAT 👀
Yeah and also imagine 0 rim protection. Biggest part the wolves are the one seed is them allowing least ppg in the west by a pretty far margin. I would still nut if wolves had KD to be fair
@@Boof37 dude KD is a 1 in a million opportunity! There is no other player like KD in the nba and there probably will never be!! But for gobert there’s guys in the league currently arguably even better than him.
Minnesota overpaid for a player that can be easily replaced but you can’t ever get a KD
It's impossible to imagine because Brooklyn wanted KAT and Ant for KD
@@sin978 I’m sure if what we offered for Rudy we offered for KD, they would seriously consider
@@thecoolrich no they wouldn't. If you're the Suns, why give up a in your words "1 in a million player" for some scrubs and 5 firsts? That's basically asking you to get fired as a GM and fr your team to be stuck in BBall hell
All them players Minnesota gave up for Rudy got traded to the lakers lmfao they was ass, but them drafts picks was crazy
110 years old is crazy 💀💀
where is the Win-Win Trades video?
Paul George trade from OKC to clippers would be here in the future. Shai is playing on superstar level
The amount of casual analysis and disinformation here is crazy 😂
You really love that cent on the dollar quote lol
i really thought the Gobert Trade was GARBAGE! at first. But then i realized that Rudy Gobert was him on the defensive end.
You realized ?
As a Hornets fan, I understand why we traded Kobe since he wouldn't play for us, but trading SGA away on draft night has proved to be a terrible move.
The goat once again strikes
Bro traded free tickets for Bill Russell 😭
I know the racist dude who refused to draft Bill Russel ended up regretting it the rest of his life.
9:07 I’m still annoyed the lakers did that
Celtics with two of the biggest fleeces in nba history s actually wild 😂
Rudy gobert trade isnt bad anymore cuz twolves won 56 games, rudy won 4th dpoy, and they beat the defending champions and made the wcf while having the best defense in the league
The broken fultz 😂😂😂
Bradley Beal to the Suns is going to go down as one of, if not THE worst moves ever in the NBA. The Suns as of right now don't have any first round picks until 2031.
Timberwolves trade looking fantastic now
Orlando Magic trading Victor Oladipo and the rights to Domantas Sabonis for 6 months of Serge Ibaka probably set the franchise back a good 5 years
Poor hawks 🤣
Now do a series where a trade was a win win situation for both teams
Goat Chanel posted again
Considering Kobe made it clear he wouldn't play for the Hornets the trade wasn't that bad
Desmond Mason and Gary Payton for Ray Allen was a weird ass trade too
KG actually played with the Nets for another season…
Okay to be fair to the Spurs, that “Best rebounder” has a lot other strings attached that are not going to show up in basketball stats, except maybe technical fouls and ejections.
My favorite Dennis Rodman fact is that as of recently he was good personal friends with Kim Jong Un, and has spent more time in his presence and more time visiting North Korea, than any other American.
Actually the Timberwolves couldn't have gotten Kevin Durant He only wanted to go to Phoenix
You mean when superstars throw temper tantrums. They demand a trade
Don’t get me wrong, the gobert trade was bad, but the wolves are great this season. This trade doesn’t deserve to be in the 15 worst of all time
People who say the harden trade was dumb don’t know basketball. Harden wasn’t the harden yall know him to be, he was a 6th man for a reason
to be fair Minesota aren't really missing any of the 5 players they traded
Need the NHL one for this.
The Braves tanked on purpose to get out of their stadium contract so the owner could sell the team. There's a documentary about it.
As a Thunder stan the trade was dumb with Harden but we really had a better record without Kev Martin, and would've went back to the chip had it not been for a injury
Ant be like when he finds out they could have traded for kd....
The Dennis Rodman trade shouldn't be here considering that the Spurs had the short end of the stick with Rodman demanding a trade
Ngl you cant say anything about the gobert trade they the best team in the league
Dont forget that trade the Lakers did for Pau Gasol. Sending 4 nobodies for him to the Grizzlies
Honestly as a Lakers fan when Russ trade happened i told myself wtf manager thinking... And that Kobe trade for Divac was Jerry Wests genius if im remembering right.
If kd, russ, and harden stay at okc, they might won chip tho.
The Spurs trading Rodman had nothing to do with talent and everything to do with his attitude. Perdue was also a big part of the Spurs 99 championship.
Lakers are still playing losing basketball even with Russ gone
Honestly gobert trade is turning out very well
The Isiahia Thomas one wasn't sneaky, was illegale; Celtics played really dirty