SUN WUKONG: Service here blows! HELL STAFF: True, this isn't the girl scouts. Please accept this coupon and make sure to sign our guest book SUN WUKONG: (UNsigns guestbook)
@@fabiansuckfull9446 Yep they boiled Sun Wukong his Lao Tzu's pot thingy because they thought it would drain him of his immortality but all it was in vain.
Swords, arrows, spears, chains, guillotines, heavenly fire, divine thunder - they tried everything. They even tried throwing him into Laozu's furnace that he used to make those immortality pills - a furnace so hot that it would reduce anything in creation to its purest, basest form. And they didn't just throw him in there - they threw him in and LEFT HIM int there, for FORTY NINE DAYS. But no. It wasn't hot enough. All it did was temper his body into a tougher state - curing his eyes into a rapturous golden color and making him EVEN MORE IMMORTAL.
The many versions of the story I've heard, the pillar from the ocean palace Sun Wu Kong took is the actual pillar holding up the ocean. Taking that pillar caused major issues. The ocean was ravaged by deadly storms and coastal areas by tsunami. They had to quickly make a silver pillar replacement to stabilize the world's oceans. Also, in all version of the story I've heard, the mountain the Buddha trapped Wu Kong never existed until the Buddha slapped Wu Kong back down to Earth. The mountain was formed from the Buddha's actual hand in this epic slap. Because of the shape, people call that mountain the Five Fingers Mountain (in Chinese thumbs and fingers are not distinguished).
Oh, so they actually did replace it with something else. I mean in the version I read there wasn't an mention of it ever again. Or I jut forgot that part was in there.
In a version I heard, the pillar is a huge iron piece of junk which the Dragon King wish that somebody should take away (he and his underlings cannot move it because it's too heavy), until our monkey came and wipe out the rusted iron covering it by ordering it to shrink down, reveal that it's an ultimate weapon. :v
This is how I also remembered the origin of his pillar staff. I also remember him having to make a promise to his initial master that he wouldn't teach the secrets he learned there to any outsiders was a part of the deal of him being exiled.
In the stories I was told, once he told MK that he hadn't escaped, he flipped his hand and slammed it down, turning his hand into the mountain that monkey was sealed under. B-b-b-badass Buddah magic!
7:59 Well technically you missed the fact the Erlangshen was able to defeat him in battle but the Gods were unable to kill him. Not even Laozu's caldron could melt him (which gave him his special eye powers). Then the Jade Emperor called the Buddha.
Yeah they skip the battle against heaven with all his clone and his giant monkey form with 3 heads and 8 arms (maybe more it's been a while) holding different weapons. And how all the weapons from the dragon king were too light (One of them weighting over 9000 pounds).
Not really a "show off". That seems mistranslated. The Monkey King is supposed to be a legendary nuisance and menace. While never acting from evil intent, his high-jinks oft disturb the order and balance of existence, causing a lot of messes for the other agents of heaven to clean up. It would be 500 years before Wukong would be freed by Xuanzang, to aid him in his Journey to the West, who will eventually teach Wukong humility, patience, and restraint. With a little help from Guanyin's Cursed Golden Circlet of Consequential Cranium Constriction +20, of course.
Let’s not forget that Sun Wukang’s staff weighted more than 17,000 lbs and that most of the time he shrinked it to the size of a needle and put it behind his ear, which is awesome. Imagine, you are so strong that you can lift 17,000 lbs with your ear.
You missed out many of the fun parts. Fighting the Nezha and a heavenly army after abandoning hes heavenly stables job. Getting a baddass title. Fighting another heavenly army after running away a second time and his epic battle with erlang shen.
the battle with Nezha was pretty epic. Two immortal dudes transformed into some kind of Hindu God themself (three heads, six arms, each carries a weapon), then Wu Kong got tired of all this and plucked one of his hair to fooled Nezha so he could sneak behind him and land a blow. Battle with Erlangshen was somewhat the opposite side, when both try to outsmart their opponent (transformed into multiple animals and objects, Wukong even transformed to Erlangshen and enter his shrine lol)
I think it's important to note that Sun Wukong was actually given two different jobs in Heaven. First, he was made master of the heavenly stables - a title he was actually darn satisfied with, until a courtier made the mistake of telling the Monkey King that said "honor" was actually an insult. If they'd just kept their mouth shut, they could have saved themselves a whole lot of grief.
Even if osp already covered this, i always love seeing you guys upload because of the different iteration and telling of those myths. Keep on doing the absolutely *amazing* work guys! (Edit: also i absolutely love the: ‘don’t you know who-who-who-who i am?’)
Important to note that the Buddha put a magic seal on the mountain so it could actually hold Son Wukon. Because an ordinary mountain definitely cant, as evidenced by that time someone dropped three mountains on him and it was just a mild inconvenience.
"Soon", not "Suh-n" Also, the reason he wanted to find his own weapon was cause every other weapon broke under his own strength. One of his fellow monkeys told Wukong of the Eastern Sea Dragon King's weaponry.
Yes... I believe that hos weapon is also the sacred needle of the sea which calms the oceans. The dragon king offered to give it to him thinking it was too heavy for him to lift.
Well you skipped over quite a number of things. Like how the Monkey King went to heaven looking to be made a god, so the gods tried to trick him into being their stable boy which lead to MK starting a stampede, fleeing to back to earth and demanding to be called great sage equal to heaven. Kind of an important plot point.
They'd be here all month if they hit every plot point (even though I would *love that*), but I think they got the important strokes of it - that Monkey King was an absolute terror, and the Court of Heaven could not do jack fucking shit about it.
There's a lot of cool (and important) things missing from this story. Like how the original job Heaven offered the Monkey King was basically 'stable boy' and when he found out, Sun Wukong stormed out in a huff and declared himself Great Sage Equal to Heaven. Or how the reason the Dragon was willing to part with his treasure was that the Dragon King was literally terrified of Sun Wukong. Honestly, this fails to capture one his most important character traits: Impulsiveness. The Handsome Monkey King does not think things through. He eats all the peaches of immortality because he was hungry. He goes to the party because he thinks it'll be fun. He drinks most of the wine at the party because he can and he's drunk. He's not greedy, he's just impulsive. And it's worth noting that Sun Wukong couldn't escape the mountain explicitly because of a powerful seal. At that point he could literally bench press the thing without the seal on him, or transform to a literally mountainous size. The only reason he gets out is basically because the Buddha needs him for a job.
There is a Chinese term called "shrimp soldiers and crab generals", used to describe military troops, and in Journey to the West the author directly depicts them as crabs and shrimps, So to make the story more supernatural, the animator should draw the dragon king's servants as shrimps!
It's nice to see another take on it, but I have to admit I prefer Red's take on it much better. Unfortunately I think it takes a long time for her to make each episode, so we have to be patient until the next one. It's so good though and I know she's sourcing her material from not just the unabridged version of the book (the pile of 4 volumes she had in the screenshot in the first ep), but also her love from her childhood, so it's worth the wait. But like also, I'm a huge Journey to the West fan and read the unabridged version myself for fun when I was younger and own it because I'm a nerd. My grandfather also had a collection of a bunch of Chinese classic novels in Chinese and I took that one along with my other favorite novel Fengshen Yanyi. I'm not really literate in Chinese, but I use it to reference with the unabridged version and know enough characters to fumble my way around the comparison. I also watch several TV show, animations, and just general depictions of the tale and I can be super picky about Monkey portrayals because some people don't get it right. EC's is actually passable in that at there might be one or two details that I think are a little funky, but overall it's okay because they have a decent narrative and depiction of Monkey's personality so far. OSP's though is excellent and it's because she knows the source material and the allegory and symbolism so well. There's only one other version that I love just as much and it's a mid-90s Hong Kong drama starring Dicky Cheung Wai Kin. That role made him famous though and it was so good and on point for Monkey's personality, but the actor had a falling out with the production company and they got a different person to play him for the second season. Dicky was a producer on the first season as well, so he was able to like make sure the story beats stuck to the heart of the novel even if they made some changes for comedic effect. When Benny took over for season 2, he was too soft and not as impetuous and I think some of the producers were trying to make a more modern spin that also turned it into a kind of travesty because they tried to write in romantic overtones into it, which is wrong. A) It's a Buddhist story and Buddhist monks are those who have left the family and thus don't have relationships, B) Monkey literally says in the book in the first quarter of the novel to one demon lady family trying to pull the wool over their eyes and also trying to get them to marry them that he would be a horrible husband and doesn't know much about romance, C) it takes away from Monkey's impetuous nature and the arc of his part of the allegory. I actually get really pissed and drop series when I see them try to throw romance into Monkey's life because it means the creators missed the point of the story. So that second season I hate, and then also a early 2000s short series where Dicky came back to play him but they decided to give him a romance with the Bone Demon for some reason so I dropped that after one episode, and then this one Japanese one where they tried to make Monkey into a horny teenager. Hate all of those, but also love the Gensoumaden Saiyuki anime even though they screwed with a whole lot of the story because they aren't trying to tell the actual story and the character relationships and personalities are relatively the same even though Hakkai and Gojyo's are switched and Sanzo smokes and has a gun.
The perfect ending for this series would be the Monkey King being freed from his mountain prison by Tang Sanzang and went on many adventure with him along with many other of his companions.
BOI YOU SKIPPED OVER THE PART WHERE BEFORE HE GOT APPOINTED THE TENDER OF THE PEACHES HE WAS GUARDIAN OF THE CELESTIAL HORSES AND WAS SO MAD HE STORMED HEAVEN
And that he got mad because they told him it was an AMAZING POSITION, when he was essentially a fucking stableboy. A goddamn heavenly laughingstock. TBF I'd be kinda pissed too.
Corey B. To be fair, it’s gonna be 1 universe vs 1 universe. Remember the Trinity? Jesus is both one and separate from the Father. And nothing seems to have measured the extent of the Father.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 - And nothing seems to have measured the extent of the Father. Judging by Genesis 32 that "Father" guy can be dropped by some single unwashed sheep-herder.
I prefer the version of him getting his staff where instead of him just saying the dragons weapons weren't cool enough he said they were too light and didn't fit his hand very well. Then when he sees the giant pillar (which is holding down part of the ocean) and starts waving it around the dragon doesn't ask him to leave because he's annoyed, but rather because he's scared shit-less of this monkey swinging something too heavy for even him and his siblings combined to lift, likes its nothing.
There's a missing detail the golden-band pillar! Its function was to "hold up" the ocean and super heavy. Wukong asked for the pillar. The Dragon King laughed and said, "If you can hold it, you can take it." He didn't think Wukong could lift it. Wukong did, and that causes the tides of the ocean (since there's no longer "support").
@@keyaaghaei Alright, well I'm still not entirely sure what you're on about, or why you felt the need to make such a non sequitur comment that seems to be seeking a disagreement that isn't there, but have a lovely day.
There a few things to nitpick from this video: 1. I don't remember the Bull Demon being slayed, he was once a fraternity brothers of Sun Wukong, and later a rival. 2. Jade Emperor is usually depicted on a throne, not a lotus, which is more commonly associated with Buddhist deity, while Jade Emperor is a Taoist deity. 3. He was offered a job in the Heaven as a glorified stable boy. I'm ok with some creative freedom on the story telling, but it should be obvious and not misleading. Eg. Jade Emperor using a telephone is okay because it's kinda obvious they don't have it at that time
Your videos are so amazing they teach us so much in a few minutes! I’m a really big fan of yours and it helps me a lot in my tests! Recently me and my friend had to do a presentation and we decided to make an animated video inspired by you guys!! It’s posted on my Chanel and it is about clothing in the Middle Ages. Thanks for being so inspiring!
A fun movie even for adults is The Lost Empire. Its about the monkey king. It's from 2001, our adult children still love it and say it was one of their favorites growing up.
In the original story, the staff was actually an artifact once used by an ancient king of humans. The king used it during his conquest against the flooding of Yellow River. So it was then named 'Keystone of the Seas' ( or 'Holy Stabilizing Pin of the Sea' if you took it in a literal way). It is twice heavy as the halberd offered to the Monkey King. And it follows the will of its owner if he is worthy enough. In later stories in Journey To The West, the staff got its new name, Gold-banded Enforcer (literally 'will-following gold-banded staff').
Two things: 1) I see what you did there with the referencing Shaun of the Dead, and 2) I appreciate what you did there with the DBZ >9000 reference (since Sun Wukong was the basis for Goku)
Once someone tried to tell the Dalai Llama a joke. "The Dalai Llama went into a Pizzeria, when they asked what toppings he wanted, he said I'll have one with everything." The Dalai Llama and his translater looked very confused and deliberated for a while. At last, the Dalai Llama ready to reply. "PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!" the Dalai Llama declared.
I don’t know what the source is for this video, but there’s a strange mistake The Bull Demon King as far as I remember never kidnapped his monkeys, but he was 100% not killed by Sun Wukong at this stage in the story. He becomes a recurring antagonist later on, but at this point in the story, he was actually sworn brothers with Sun Wukong. There are other smaller inaccuracies, but the general idea’s about right
Yeah he definitely didn't die - and you're right he totally fought him later again. That whole episode was full of callbacks to his time before Journey To The West, since the obstacle in the way was a mountain that was perpetually on fire - and the mountain was perpetually on fire because one of the things the Jade Court tried when tehy were trying to execute him was to put him into Laozu's furnace - the hottest furnace in creation. But it didn't work - and he escaped and kicked the furnace over. Its contents subsequently fell to earth and set that mountain on fire with flames that would never go out. The Bull Demon's turf was nearby, and he MK had to fight him again to get the magical fan that could blow out the fires once and for all. ....there's too many details in this saga, no wonder they didn't get to any of it in these videos.
In this episode:
Sun wukong obtains a neat weapon
Obtains neat clothes
And demands to see hell’s manager
*Achievment Unlocked*
Immortal karen
SUN WUKONG: Service here blows!
HELL STAFF: True, this isn't the girl scouts. Please accept this coupon and make sure to sign our guest book
SUN WUKONG: (UNsigns guestbook)
sun wukaren
Oh hell yeah!
Sir, we ARE the managers
Gods: How much immortality do you want?
Monkey King: YES.
yes l would like 5 immortality plz!
HI will get 100000000000000 immortality plz
Next Sun Wukong would gather the dragon balls and ad another notch to his immortality belt.
Could I get -1 immortality please
Me: all of them
So, The Monkey King, Karen his way out of hell, complaining to the manager
He literally scared the GODS of H-E- Double Hockey sticks
I see what you did there.
And assaulting the employees
Jade Emperor: "The Monkey King shall be executed!"
Sun Wukong: "...Which part of "immortality" did you not understand?"
Most likely: the "im". :P
The best part is that in the actual story they have a method for executing immortals. Sun Wukong is just too immortal for the execution to work.
@@fabiansuckfull9446 Yep they boiled Sun Wukong his Lao Tzu's pot thingy because they thought it would drain him of his immortality but all it was in vain.
@@fabiansuckfull9446 What was it again? It's been a few years since I read the whole thing. Was it a giant cooking pot or something?
Swords, arrows, spears, chains, guillotines, heavenly fire, divine thunder - they tried everything. They even tried throwing him into Laozu's furnace that he used to make those immortality pills - a furnace so hot that it would reduce anything in creation to its purest, basest form. And they didn't just throw him in there - they threw him in and LEFT HIM int there, for FORTY NINE DAYS.
But no. It wasn't hot enough. All it did was temper his body into a tougher state - curing his eyes into a rapturous golden color and making him EVEN MORE IMMORTAL.
The many versions of the story I've heard, the pillar from the ocean palace Sun Wu Kong took is the actual pillar holding up the ocean. Taking that pillar caused major issues. The ocean was ravaged by deadly storms and coastal areas by tsunami. They had to quickly make a silver pillar replacement to stabilize the world's oceans.
Also, in all version of the story I've heard, the mountain the Buddha trapped Wu Kong never existed until the Buddha slapped Wu Kong back down to Earth. The mountain was formed from the Buddha's actual hand in this epic slap. Because of the shape, people call that mountain the Five Fingers Mountain (in Chinese thumbs and fingers are not distinguished).
Oh, so they actually did replace it with something else. I mean in the version I read there wasn't an mention of it ever again. Or I jut forgot that part was in there.
In a version I heard, the pillar is a huge iron piece of junk which the Dragon King wish that somebody should take away (he and his underlings cannot move it because it's too heavy), until our monkey came and wipe out the rusted iron covering it by ordering it to shrink down, reveal that it's an ultimate weapon. :v
This is how I also remembered the origin of his pillar staff. I also remember him having to make a promise to his initial master that he wouldn't teach the secrets he learned there to any outsiders was a part of the deal of him being exiled.
well i mean they are clearly not doing this seriously, sun wukong refused prior weapons only because they where too light.
no i thought it was called the 5 elements mountain. And also I read it a long time ago but I heard the pillar holding up milky way or something
B-b-b-Buddha magic!
In the stories I was told, once he told MK that he hadn't escaped, he flipped his hand and slammed it down, turning his hand into the mountain that monkey was sealed under.
B-b-b-badass Buddah magic!
Easily the best part
Bibbity Bobbity Buddha!
wow 💕
8:52
7:59 Well technically you missed the fact the Erlangshen was able to defeat him in battle but the Gods were unable to kill him. Not even Laozu's caldron could melt him (which gave him his special eye powers). Then the Jade Emperor called the Buddha.
Erlengshen didn't even defeat him there, he just sufficiently distracted him so that laozu could trap him in a snare made of diamonds
They skipped so much, it's very disappointing
Or the reason why he got the nickname “Bi Ma Wen” 弼马温.
Yeah they skip the battle against heaven with all his clone and his giant monkey form with 3 heads and 8 arms (maybe more it's been a while) holding different weapons. And how all the weapons from the dragon king were too light (One of them weighting over 9000 pounds).
@@QvsTheWorld Yeah and how he's hairs can turn into clones. Oh, wait nevermind. You alreadt mentioned it.
Did somebody say IMPULSIVE!!
Godverdamnt
Exactly, born from a rock on a mountain top. Frunkest monkey that ever popped.
OverlySarcasticProductions?
@@saurion9479I do believe that’s where the reference comes from.
I love how both Overly Sarcastic Productions and Extra Credits both incorporate the term ‘faint whiff of monkey pee,’ in their descriptions
I can only assume that - incredibly - that phrase comes directly from the source material
@@state_song_xprt not only that one, i think. There were more phrases, which I recognized from both. Don't remeber which, now, though
@@state_song_xprt you're spot on
You skipped the part where they tried to boil the immortality out of him and accidentally gave him magic demon eyes.
Osp had him having laser eyes right after he was "born". I haven't read it myself
Wow, that's pretty angry
Maybe because their videos have a very short length
And that's after he already had laser eye beams. The fire makes it so he sees truth in all things, important later
@@MrChaoticreign wtf do you mean laser beam eyes. Did you guys even read the book?
"nom nom nom, can't die even more " literary gold
On the next episode of... JOURNEY TO THE WEST!
Who will reach the ending first? OSP or EC?
@@keyaaghaei No, this is Journey to the West
OSP!
*Red liked this*
Imagine being kicked from your heaven; because you're accused being a show off(!)
Satan be like
Aka Hubris
Lucifer
Not really a "show off". That seems mistranslated. The Monkey King is supposed to be a legendary nuisance and menace. While never acting from evil intent, his high-jinks oft disturb the order and balance of existence, causing a lot of messes for the other agents of heaven to clean up.
It would be 500 years before Wukong would be freed by Xuanzang, to aid him in his Journey to the West, who will eventually teach Wukong humility, patience, and restraint. With a little help from Guanyin's Cursed Golden Circlet of Consequential Cranium Constriction +20, of course.
Isn’t everybody in heaven a show off for being there in the first place
"Joke's on you, I'm getting double immortality!"
No, Triple.
No, Quadruple.
No, Quintuple.
HELLSING
@@advanceringnewholder his immortality level, it's over 9000.
Ah a person of culture.
@@advanceringnewholder later on his journey to the west, Wukong even got the chance to eat magical ginseng that boost his immortality to another level
Moral of the story: You don't mess with the Buddha
Buddha don't mess around.
Cpt. Archer corona added to the group
BUDDHA MAGİC
the real question here is if they will cover the journey to the west?
Pretty sure they will, since the entire journey to the west story is also about the maturing of Sun Wukong
split soul, still waiting from Red
split soul the ending suggests YES
@@redoktober8164 that is SUCH a long ass story though.
All those trials.
@@rsbandbj1 Yeah, it is there 72 incidents with the group, and even though I have read the story years ago, it still took me 3 months to finish it
Let’s not forget that Sun Wukang’s staff weighted more than 17,000 lbs and that most of the time he shrinked it to the size of a needle and put it behind his ear, which is awesome. Imagine, you are so strong that you can lift 17,000 lbs with your ear.
"You cannot defeat me!"
"I know, but He can..."
(Buddha joined the chat)
Monkey King Banned from Chat for 3,000 Years.
@@Qardo More like 500.
But Buddha never fought him just sealed him
EC: Uploads Monkey King video.
OSP: Sweating loudly.
OSP still comfortably ahead I would say
@@KanaiIle Waaaaa-ha-ha-hay ahead!
Not really. Though it is nice to see more people talk about the Journey to the West
@@KanaiIle They are a bit more furrow in their telling as well. This is a very succinct summary.
Still, if extra history does one video every two weeks, it won't last for long...
Nice homage with the "faint whiff of monkey-pee." (thumbs up)
Also, I'mma start saying "Buh-Buh-Buh-Buddha Magic!" from now on.
-Red&Blue- Monkey King: Alternate Universe Edition :]
I was thinking the same thing
You missed out many of the fun parts.
Fighting the Nezha and a heavenly army after abandoning hes heavenly stables job.
Getting a baddass title.
Fighting another heavenly army after running away a second time and his epic battle with erlang shen.
From 弼马温 to 齐天大圣，not bad at all.
Also didn't he make an alliance with hell, so that he now also had an army of immortal demon monkeys?
@@Carewolf he didn't make an alliance with hell, just crossed off names from its ledger, so just an army of immortal monkeys, no demons involved :)
the battle with Nezha was pretty epic. Two immortal dudes transformed into some kind of Hindu God themself (three heads, six arms, each carries a weapon), then Wu Kong got tired of all this and plucked one of his hair to fooled Nezha so he could sneak behind him and land a blow. Battle with Erlangshen was somewhat the opposite side, when both try to outsmart their opponent (transformed into multiple animals and objects, Wukong even transformed to Erlangshen and enter his shrine lol)
He stacked immortality buffs. The absolute lad.
All the other monkey kings with their pumped up kicks better run, out run my Buddha's Palm.
7:54 his immortality IS OVER 9000
"What, 9000? There's no way that can be right!!!"
Actually just 4 atm...
I think it's important to note that Sun Wukong was actually given two different jobs in Heaven. First, he was made master of the heavenly stables - a title he was actually darn satisfied with, until a courtier made the mistake of telling the Monkey King that said "honor" was actually an insult. If they'd just kept their mouth shut, they could have saved themselves a whole lot of grief.
What was his second job?
@@jessicaclakley3691 The second job was the one mentioned in the video: gardener of heaven's peaches of immortality.
@@cataquackwarlord5389 oh snap, I missed that he was supposed to be the gardener lol thank you
I want overly sarcastic studios to barge in with the camp fire
Wouldn't be the first time.
Even if osp already covered this, i always love seeing you guys upload because of the different iteration and telling of those myths. Keep on doing the absolutely *amazing* work guys!
(Edit: also i absolutely love the: ‘don’t you know who-who-who-who i am?’)
I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention the pillar retains it's mass no matter it's size, would've tied in with your opener.
Myths: so how much immortality you want?
Monkey King: yes
*pats monkey on the head* This bad boy can fit so much immortality in him.
"Immortality Boogaloo"
Seems Legit
At the end rather than Buddha I was expecting John Wick himself. :D
John Wick could spend literal eternity trying to kill Sun Wukong and failing. The Monkey King is just too immortal.
@@alanepithet2931 Yeah, but John Wick has a pencil.
Really? I was expecting the Holy, Exalted, Mighty and Awesome Chuck Norris, may his kingdom last for the rest of his life
@@andruabeck7236 Ah, to get an autograph. Sensible.
@@alanepithet2931 For Monkey King to write his last will.
4:50 they call him the doom slayer
BUH-BUH-BUH-BUDDHA MAGIC!
Important to note that the Buddha put a magic seal on the mountain so it could actually hold Son Wukon. Because an ordinary mountain definitely cant, as evidenced by that time someone dropped three mountains on him and it was just a mild inconvenience.
"Soon", not "Suh-n"
Also, the reason he wanted to find his own weapon was cause every other weapon broke under his own strength.
One of his fellow monkeys told Wukong of the Eastern Sea Dragon King's weaponry.
I was thinking it was odd that they were annoyed by him rather than terrified.
Yes... I believe that hos weapon is also the sacred needle of the sea which calms the oceans.
The dragon king offered to give it to him thinking it was too heavy for him to lift.
No it's "swuh-n ookung"
Unless your Cantonese then it's "soon nghong" but the oo a bit like ee
On a side note
This Topic reminds me of the Opening Sequence of 2015's Animated Film, *"Monkey King: Hero is Back"*
I wonder why that could be
really makes you think
This version and Overly Sarcastic's Sun WuKong would get along wonderfully
2:40 its the classic minecraft "oof" noise
Immortality 2 Electric Boogaloo, Starring Sun Wu Kong and Featuring Impulsiveness
And then pigsy ruins it some how
I spot Lucina
@@xKazeshi98x you spot correctly
The Immortal Super Monkey with ADHD - and as if just the premise wasn't funny enough...
@@solomonz2821 Did someone say Goku?
Well you skipped over quite a number of things. Like how the Monkey King went to heaven looking to be made a god, so the gods tried to trick him into being their stable boy which lead to MK starting a stampede, fleeing to back to earth and demanding to be called great sage equal to heaven. Kind of an important plot point.
They'd be here all month if they hit every plot point (even though I would *love that*), but I think they got the important strokes of it - that Monkey King was an absolute terror, and the Court of Heaven could not do jack fucking shit about it.
@@patricktsao9630 Yeah if they hit that many plot points it will be as long as OSP's version and I don't think they want that at EC
OSP: Monkey is now quadruply immortal!
EC: Monkey is now +9000 immortal!
Me: Uh, Red... I think you missed a couple.
I assume she was going by source, not quantity of said source.
You forgot the part where Lao Zi tried to cook Sun Wukong to get his pills back, but just made him more immortal with laser eyes.
There's a lot of cool (and important) things missing from this story.
Like how the original job Heaven offered the Monkey King was basically 'stable boy' and when he found out, Sun Wukong stormed out in a huff and declared himself Great Sage Equal to Heaven.
Or how the reason the Dragon was willing to part with his treasure was that the Dragon King was literally terrified of Sun Wukong.
Honestly, this fails to capture one his most important character traits: Impulsiveness. The Handsome Monkey King does not think things through. He eats all the peaches of immortality because he was hungry. He goes to the party because he thinks it'll be fun. He drinks most of the wine at the party because he can and he's drunk. He's not greedy, he's just impulsive.
And it's worth noting that Sun Wukong couldn't escape the mountain explicitly because of a powerful seal. At that point he could literally bench press the thing without the seal on him, or transform to a literally mountainous size. The only reason he gets out is basically because the Buddha needs him for a job.
Extra credits helped me so much in school and i learned around... 80% more than i had in school.
i cannot un-see Sun Wukong suddenly getting 'chest hair' with his wardrobe upgrade from the dragon king.
"Death had to come for Sun Wukong sleeping. If he had been awake it would have been a fight."
There is a Chinese term called "shrimp soldiers and crab generals", used to describe military troops, and in Journey to the West the author directly depicts them as crabs and shrimps, So to make the story more supernatural, the animator should draw the dragon king's servants as shrimps!
9:07-9:11 Zoey the cat queen! I like it!
OSP anyone
Me
Yeah
When will that dumb horse ever do something again
Yeah. Waiting for Red to pop up
It's nice to see another take on it, but I have to admit I prefer Red's take on it much better. Unfortunately I think it takes a long time for her to make each episode, so we have to be patient until the next one. It's so good though and I know she's sourcing her material from not just the unabridged version of the book (the pile of 4 volumes she had in the screenshot in the first ep), but also her love from her childhood, so it's worth the wait.
But like also, I'm a huge Journey to the West fan and read the unabridged version myself for fun when I was younger and own it because I'm a nerd. My grandfather also had a collection of a bunch of Chinese classic novels in Chinese and I took that one along with my other favorite novel Fengshen Yanyi. I'm not really literate in Chinese, but I use it to reference with the unabridged version and know enough characters to fumble my way around the comparison. I also watch several TV show, animations, and just general depictions of the tale and I can be super picky about Monkey portrayals because some people don't get it right. EC's is actually passable in that at there might be one or two details that I think are a little funky, but overall it's okay because they have a decent narrative and depiction of Monkey's personality so far.
OSP's though is excellent and it's because she knows the source material and the allegory and symbolism so well. There's only one other version that I love just as much and it's a mid-90s Hong Kong drama starring Dicky Cheung Wai Kin. That role made him famous though and it was so good and on point for Monkey's personality, but the actor had a falling out with the production company and they got a different person to play him for the second season. Dicky was a producer on the first season as well, so he was able to like make sure the story beats stuck to the heart of the novel even if they made some changes for comedic effect. When Benny took over for season 2, he was too soft and not as impetuous and I think some of the producers were trying to make a more modern spin that also turned it into a kind of travesty because they tried to write in romantic overtones into it, which is wrong. A) It's a Buddhist story and Buddhist monks are those who have left the family and thus don't have relationships, B) Monkey literally says in the book in the first quarter of the novel to one demon lady family trying to pull the wool over their eyes and also trying to get them to marry them that he would be a horrible husband and doesn't know much about romance, C) it takes away from Monkey's impetuous nature and the arc of his part of the allegory. I actually get really pissed and drop series when I see them try to throw romance into Monkey's life because it means the creators missed the point of the story. So that second season I hate, and then also a early 2000s short series where Dicky came back to play him but they decided to give him a romance with the Bone Demon for some reason so I dropped that after one episode, and then this one Japanese one where they tried to make Monkey into a horny teenager. Hate all of those, but also love the Gensoumaden Saiyuki anime even though they screwed with a whole lot of the story because they aren't trying to tell the actual story and the character relationships and personalities are relatively the same even though Hakkai and Gojyo's are switched and Sanzo smokes and has a gun.
Sun Wukong: I'm invincible, I have plot armor
Buddha: Ahahahahahaha *NO*
Great warrior, fights to protect and fight stronger Opponents fights with a magic staff walks on clouds…hmm, that sounds, familiar…hmmm.
You added this to the mythology playlist quite quickly, it takes some you tubers quite a while to update the lists. Thanks :)
The perfect ending for this series would be the Monkey King being freed from his mountain prison by Tang Sanzang and went on many adventure with him along with many other of his companions.
Sun Wukong invented failing up.
Also I half expected Blue from OSP to voice the Jade Emperor.
Huh, seems Sun WuKong is enjoying the readings of his novels
9:12
When you can’t find a magical weapon you like, so you just yoink out a pillar and declare it as your weapon
I had no idea that Laozi was in this story! In the translation I'm reading he is just called "The Ancient of Days."
Wow, I never thought Wukong to be sutch a chaotic character. In hindsight, I should have expected it. He IS a monkey after all.
so how many times can you not die?
Sun Wukong: *Yes*
BOI YOU SKIPPED OVER THE PART WHERE BEFORE HE GOT APPOINTED THE TENDER OF THE PEACHES HE WAS GUARDIAN OF THE CELESTIAL HORSES AND WAS SO MAD HE STORMED HEAVEN
And that he got mad because they told him it was an AMAZING POSITION, when he was essentially a fucking stableboy. A goddamn heavenly laughingstock. TBF I'd be kinda pissed too.
Let's be real, Budda would drop Jesus in a 1v1. Oh, you came back from the dead? That's cute. I am the universe.
Corey B. To be fair, it’s gonna be 1 universe vs 1 universe.
Remember the Trinity? Jesus is both one and separate from the Father. And nothing seems to have measured the extent of the Father.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 - And nothing seems to have measured the extent of the Father.
Judging by Genesis 32 that "Father" guy can be dropped by some single unwashed sheep-herder.
Alexander Christopher I did. His extent is that of a circle whose centre is everywhere and circumference nowhere. Buddha does have a big belly though🤔
"Hey! Are you the bull demon? Cool. I'mma deck you in the schnoz!"
I prefer the version of him getting his staff where instead of him just saying the dragons weapons weren't cool enough he said they were too light and didn't fit his hand very well. Then when he sees the giant pillar (which is holding down part of the ocean) and starts waving it around the dragon doesn't ask him to leave because he's annoyed, but rather because he's scared shit-less of this monkey swinging something too heavy for even him and his siblings combined to lift, likes its nothing.
Extra credits:
Everyone:OSP
Yo: BUDA NOS TIENES QUE AYUDAR, DE MI MANO INTENTA ESCAPARRRRRR
Im glad this show is still on, though i miss when the show was more focused on information and wonder than jokes.
At least this is freakin' hilarious
This part should have jokes 'cause the monkey king has turned the entire heaven crew into a band of idiots. :v
More Monkey King, Please!!! We love these. It sounds like there's more material.
8:51 Ba ba bhuddda bhudda magic. 😂😂😂
There's a missing detail the golden-band pillar! Its function was to "hold up" the ocean and super heavy. Wukong asked for the pillar. The Dragon King laughed and said, "If you can hold it, you can take it." He didn't think Wukong could lift it. Wukong did, and that causes the tides of the ocean (since there's no longer "support").
A good episode, but I really wish you had covered the whole "great sage equal to heaven" thing.
Monkey King is a perfectly balanced soul with no exploits
Dragon king: [Presents arsenal of glorious legendary weapons]
Sun Wukong: *B I G S T I C C*
Dragon king: I’m gonna pay you $20 to f*ck off.
7:55 What, 9000? That's impossible!
He's gone Super D DUPER Saiyan!
@@keyaaghaei No, but Dragon Ball is loosely based on Journey to the West, which heavily features Sun Wukong.
@@keyaaghaei I'm aware, that's why I said loosely based. What's your point?
@@keyaaghaei Ok? And why did you feel the need to make that point? I was just riffing on the >9000 reference the video made.
@@keyaaghaei Alright, well I'm still not entirely sure what you're on about, or why you felt the need to make such a non sequitur comment that seems to be seeking a disagreement that isn't there, but have a lovely day.
Them Underworld Kings did not want any smoke at all 🤣🤣😂😭
I'm currently working my way through the Iliad, Oddysey and Aeneid, finally starting the Aeneid. They've been on my bucket list for awhile now.
Ah, the Aeneid. Have you gotten to... The Prophecy? (metal guitar riff)
THAT WAS THE GREATEST STORY EVER THANK YOU SO MUCH
There a few things to nitpick from this video:
1. I don't remember the Bull Demon being slayed, he was once a fraternity brothers of Sun Wukong, and later a rival.
2. Jade Emperor is usually depicted on a throne, not a lotus, which is more commonly associated with Buddhist deity, while Jade Emperor is a Taoist deity.
3. He was offered a job in the Heaven as a glorified stable boy.
I'm ok with some creative freedom on the story telling, but it should be obvious and not misleading. Eg. Jade Emperor using a telephone is okay because it's kinda obvious they don't have it at that time
Yea you skipped a lot but still pretty good.
Damn, Mori Jin was such a badass.
It's finally here, keep it up!
4:12 I see that Danny Phantom reference
Just when I run out of stuff to watch you arrive out of nowhere like Valkyries
Sun Wu Kong is like Loki on Steroids
Honestly.
Loki would be scared of Sun Wu Kong...unless they vibe together and become bros..then reality's kinda boned...
And this is why Son Goku has looked the same and hardly aged for about 40 years.
Me during the start of the video: Oh I see how Goku is based off this guy.
Me at the end: Nope that's Vageta.
Your videos are so amazing they teach us so much in a few minutes! I’m a really big fan of yours and it helps me a lot in my tests! Recently me and my friend had to do a presentation and we decided to make an animated video inspired by you guys!! It’s posted on my Chanel and it is about clothing in the Middle Ages. Thanks for being so inspiring!
"Oh we got those"
A fun movie even for adults is The Lost Empire. Its about the monkey king. It's from 2001, our adult children still love it and say it was one of their favorites growing up.
The Monke King is inevitable
You should do another video on this
the ridiculousness of these stories are just great
Yay, It’s here!
In the original story, the staff was actually an artifact once used by an ancient king of humans. The king used it during his conquest against the flooding of Yellow River. So it was then named 'Keystone of the Seas' ( or 'Holy Stabilizing Pin of the Sea' if you took it in a literal way). It is twice heavy as the halberd offered to the Monkey King. And it follows the will of its owner if he is worthy enough. In later stories in Journey To The West, the staff got its new name, Gold-banded Enforcer (literally 'will-following gold-banded staff').
also Wukong once said that his staff was so heavy that everyone that not immortal will be reduced to a pile of meat just from a single swing
Two things: 1) I see what you did there with the referencing Shaun of the Dead, and 2) I appreciate what you did there with the DBZ >9000 reference (since Sun Wukong was the basis for Goku)
Once someone tried to tell the Dalai Llama a joke. "The Dalai Llama went into a Pizzeria, when they asked what toppings he wanted, he said I'll have one with everything." The Dalai Llama and his translater looked very confused and deliberated for a while. At last, the Dalai Llama ready to reply. "PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!" the Dalai Llama declared.
I don’t know what the source is for this video, but there’s a strange mistake
The Bull Demon King as far as I remember never kidnapped his monkeys, but he was 100% not killed by Sun Wukong at this stage in the story. He becomes a recurring antagonist later on, but at this point in the story, he was actually sworn brothers with Sun Wukong.
There are other smaller inaccuracies, but the general idea’s about right
Yeah he definitely didn't die - and you're right he totally fought him later again. That whole episode was full of callbacks to his time before Journey To The West, since the obstacle in the way was a mountain that was perpetually on fire - and the mountain was perpetually on fire because one of the things the Jade Court tried when tehy were trying to execute him was to put him into Laozu's furnace - the hottest furnace in creation. But it didn't work - and he escaped and kicked the furnace over. Its contents subsequently fell to earth and set that mountain on fire with flames that would never go out. The Bull Demon's turf was nearby, and he MK had to fight him again to get the magical fan that could blow out the fires once and for all.
....there's too many details in this saga, no wonder they didn't get to any of it in these videos.
Hear me out, I know this sounds strange but
This is a DnD Campaign where you're the Doom Slayer
Best moment in history 8:50
Did I spot an obscure Shaun of the Dead reference just then...
Where?
@@HeirofAzaran 7:34
@@andrewscullion267 Oh yeah I see it now.