Think of Lindsay this season this way: the smartest thing ANYONE did was get themselves out the second they were able to. Lindsay went galaxy-brain avoiding this shitshow.
There’s a mini theory of basically that idea. Think about it, Lindsay may be dumb, but she definitely knows about basic motor functions. According to the theory, she acted dumb to annoy the people who treated her badly, even letting Courtney get crushed by Sierraz
@@XD-yn6hbthe only times Lindsay was acting that dumb was when she was around Heather and Courtney, two people she coincidentally does not like. And it’s nobody else, just them.
The way you could have still had Courtney get eliminated this episode, but allowed her to keep her friendship with Gwen. Literally just remove the chart stuff and find some way for her to not be able to eat her sundae at the end. Like, I don't know, it gets destroyed by one of the mutant animals or she mixed up an ingredient with something identical that made it evaporate or something.
@@lulaloopsey Honestly, I think that's a big part of why I hate the episode? It's especially annoying since, as far as I'm aware, they don't seem to want to revisit most of the old cast, so Gwen and Courtney's friendship ending never even gets addressed again.
Exactly omg it makes me so mad that we’ll never get the og cast back for another season cuz courtney and gwen’s relationship ended so badly. the writers sometimes just like eliminating contestants weirdly when they want them out, like lindsay’s elimination in island. ( it’s so bad i hate it sm ) i guess courtney’s elimination was supposed to be karma but she really didn’t deserve all that. ( and this is coming from someone who doesn’t even like courtney that much ) also unrelated but i hate how the finale is two revenge contestants in an all star season, like i would’ve preferred a courtney vs zoey or gwen vs zoey finale instead but let’s be fr the finale was so obvious…
@zozoyoyo_0 I thought Lindsay's elimination in Island made sense. It was only a matter of time until Heather got Lindsay eliminated from using her for so long. And she got to cuss Heather out and realize how manipulative she was.
tdas was so heartbreaking because it had so much potential, set up so much for my fav character (Courtney), JUST to rip away her girlfriend last second. Also something to add about her elimination, she might’ve voted for herself. Chris says that the vote was 3-2 and assuming gwen actually got zoey to vote courtney with her, it would mean Z+G voted Scott while S,C,+M voted Courtney. They didn’t confirm anything but it’s not impossible for gay people to still be real after the season is over
It wasn’t even a chart, it was more of a doodle. Courtney would NEVER do a chart so silly like that. She would put actual statistics and charts on it, with at most a basic doodle for each character.
the only people who do are such haters towards the new season because it’s a different cast as if all stars didn’t ruin half of their favorite characters anyways 😭
There are SO MANY moments when Courtney is out of character. As you mentioned, she would never be dumb enough to make it easy for Mal to find her chart, but also, she would NEVER feed shit to anybody. Even coming back to Season 3, she was still human, not a monster. And on top of that, even if she actually did it, she wouldn't feel gross about eating it, or are all we forgetting the China episode in TDWT where she ate everything for Alejandro instead of him??? Heck, they even made Courtney go out of character in comparison to THIS season, nobody's forgetting the iconic "I never really missed Duncan but I really missed you" line, she had absolutely no reason to say that if it wasn't true. Some people claim TDAS is the closest Courtney's personality has ever been to TDI (which I understand, but I don't think Courtney in TDWT was as different as people say) This season is fucked up for so many reasons, but Courtney's derailmnet is the one that really stick out like a sore thumb to me. She deserved better, she deserved to win TDAS, she deserved to become Gwen's best friend! Thank you, writers, I hate it 😊 (but love your Total Drama videos fyi)
Exactly. Courtney would never feed someone animal poop and etc. She was intense at times but was high maintenance and had standards. Also I feel like she should've won All Stars, on top of rekindling her friendship with Gwen and actually confronting Duncan on cheating on her. Courtney is one of the only contestants that were unfairly booted in all three original seasons, she was never voted off through a consensus.
Oh by way heros vs villian thing, it sort based on Survivor of the same name. And fun fact i found out ed macdoanld is a writer. And Here some original Idea of all star the original All-Stars line-up included Owen, Cody, and Brick, but later decisions had them replaced with Gwen and Sam, and the cast cut down to 14. However Owen still managed to get a cameo in the finale, while Cody was frequently mentioned by Sierra with his face appearing in her hallucinations. The same line-up also revealed plots that didn't make it into the season such as Courtney getting revenge on Heather, Duncan getting revenge on Courtney, the continuation of Zoey's commando persona, and Scott creating a new and improved strategy after analyzing past Total Drama episodes. Owen was dropped because according to rumors, Scott McCord declined to voice him for a whole season. Cody was dropped because they thought his relationship with Sierra had been fully played out in World Tour. Brick was replaced by Sam because the latter had "more drama potential". Anne Maria was also a part of the original cast before being replaced by an Island competitor (allegedly Gwen). And then there's a trailer from late 2011 (two months before Revenge of the Island aired and almost two years before All-Stars actually aired), which may be an indicator that Justin, Beth, Ezekiel, Blaineley, Izzy, Geoff, Bridgette, Trent, Leshawna, Harold, Noah and Tyler may have also been considered to compete in the season at one point.
I think they wanted equal contestants as there was 7 from original cast and 7 from season 4 cast but someone like Brick would have even made more sense than sam
like how are you not gunna have owen when he literally won season one and made it past the merge three times, and not having leshawna was literally a crime
I'd honestly love to see future videos about the love triangle and Gwent break up. Or really anything you'd want to talk/rant about with this show because your analysis and review is really entertaining.
i have a video planned on the love triangle for this summer ! i plan to re-analysis the whole thing & do a deep dive i just have to rewatch the show (which i will probably start multiple TDI related scripts for future videos at the same time)
YIPP EEE i was one of the people that requested td related content and even with only 2 vids abt total drama theyre both bangers and youre probably one of the most based td fans ive seen on youtube!! I was hyperfixated on it two years ago and got 2 rewatching it recently and its comming back 2… Rlly exited for the new seasons too!! Anyways ya, case in point good video and justice for gwourtney indeed.
thank you!! in the making of this video i rewatched a lot of video essays on the show and i’m starting to fall back into it now 😭 but my hyperfixation will definitely return when the newer seasons come out
Omg this makes me really wanna rewatch the show although I’ve only ever seen the first season so I never knew any of these other ones existed (thanks Netflix for only having the first one)
Courtney: Ugh! Why can't Gwen just be impressed with my genius and go along with it?! Huh! No wonder she has such a hard time keeping friends. *says the girl who made more enemies than Heather and made only one frickin' friend during her whole time on the show*
I also like to mention that there were some continuity errors with this episode. Also the showed favoritism towards Mike and Zoey. 1. Courtney says that 5th place is the farthest she has ever made it on Total Drama even thought she got 4th place in Total Drama Action. 2. In Total Drama World Tour she says that she has an iron stomach but here she says she can’t eat disgusting food cause it’s a sundae with bird vomit, also she is lactose intolerant.
Literally I just want a new season with a full cast of at least 24 contestants of a mix of original cast and revenge of the island cast and have Scott and Courtney be the final 2 because that's what it should have been in all stars
I swear its so out of character even in another episode (forgot the name) she said to Gwen "If I don't win the million bucks, I hope you do!" and in a confessional she said "And I mean it too!" and now all of a sudden she wants her to be voted out 3rd to last-
What is sundae muddy sundae like idk what episode you are talking about cuz the end of all stars Courtney won the million and her Gwen got together in the end
I don't actually dislike All Stars, it's bad qualities are unintentionally hilarious and it's got some fun bits. This episode is pretty bad tho, not THE all time worst, but pretty bad. Justice for Gwourtney!
i was making my friend watch every season up to all-stars (we decided to skip paketiew and just go straight to the ridonculous race) and i skipped this episode for both our sakes, i wanted to sell the show to them
i always thought it would have been really cool had they taken duncan still liking courtney not actually upsetting gwen for some reason unbeknownst to gwen herself, and it slowly burning into this idea of, once things were patched up between all three of them, the realization that duncan and gwen were into each other but also both into courtney. coulda had some baller representation and just put them all together lol
ok i said before but i got some theory. Scott's suggestion that the Villainous Vultures should throw the challenge to get rid of Lightning as well as his switch of plans from sabotaging his own team from last season to sabotaging the opposing team in this episode seems to come from one of the season's original concepts, which would have involved Scott adapting to a new ruthless strategy after watching all previous Total Drama episodes during the interim between Revenge and All-Stars, but Scott being the main antagonist again was shelved in favor of Mal and him being simply more strategic than before was shelved in favor of making him the Iron Butt Monkey comic relief character with a romantic subplot with Courtney. i don´t think mal was going to be the bad guy. and for records (scott is parody of russell hantz a common criticism aginst scott, is why sabotages his own team, that is kinda stupid. well he is parody of russell hantz from Survivor. who sort did the same thing) (and also owen is a parody of richard hatch who one season 1 of survivor, and he is walk around naked. and got some gayish feeling and got money problem) and The military theme of the challenge as well as a reference to a military movie in the title of the episode appear to be leftovers from the version of the season where Brick, the military cadet, was supposed to compete. and for records i still confused about this. ok is becaouse the writer feel sam got more drama potential. i am like wait a mintue wait what. i mean you can have him and jo. and also you can brick help his team and maybe got rival with courtney. i feel brick got more potential. maybe try get rid of fear of dark. Sam's role throughout the episode seems to be the biggest example of him replacing an originally planned to compete Owen as he's showing behavior very in-character to Owen and one that doesn't have much to do with Sam's personality. Specifically, him being the one to eat the biggest portion of his team's pancake, him stealing a part of it to keep it just in case he's exiled to Boney Island, as well as facing off Alejandro in the last part of the challenge (as their animosity towards each other makes more sense, considering it'd be a continuation of their initially one-sided rivalry from World Tour). yes i am pretty sure this
19:11 To be fair, Mal also attempted to murder (or at least, severely injure) Zoey, Cameron, Gwen and Scott, so I can see why Duncan would be scared of him since he likely attempted murder in the past if what he tried to do to the aforementioned characters is anything to go by.
Courtney is my favorite character behind Noah the reason why it wasn’t my favorite is due to this episode I try to defend her *the list* is sooo stupid it’s like the writers created it last minute (also I kinda liked all stars besides the list)
I haven't even watched the video yet but naming an episode of a kids show after sunday bloody sunday is crazy Sunday Bloody Sunday is a song by the Irish band U2 that's about Bloody Sunday, an incident in 1972 in Derry, Northern Ireland, where 26 unarmed civilians (half of whom were killed) were shot by British soldiers during a protest march against the internment without trial that was taking place at the time (there's a lot of context to it that can be traced back centuries but basically from the 60s to 1998 things in Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK unlike the rest of Ireland, were REALLY bad--the fact that this era is known as "The Troubles" should give you an idea)
Wow. They robbed Courtney every season in season 1 she was unfairly eliminated in season 2 she was meant to win in season 3 the love tryangle all stars she was meant to win and the hole Courtney and Gwen thing
they turned duncan into trent 2.0 and trent was rumored laughting at him behind the scenes the same type of persanality issue trent had but worse his badboy gig was annoying cause he wanted to be bad but did good things. did the writers not learn their lesson on how they destroyed trent or even bridgette and tyler.
i saw your comment on a video of another youtuber that i watch and i was like “huh i haven’t seen her videos in a while she was pretty cool i wonder what happened” ONLY TO CHECK BACK AND SEE YOUVE BEEN UPLOADING FOR MONTHS?? girl youtube is NOT doing you justice, i have notifs on and i have gotten nothing
I have nothing but hate for All-Stars, and especially for this episode. As much as I would have liked Courtney to actually make the finals, the thing I REALLY wanted was redemption for her character. Redemption for Gwen, and for them to make things up. And this episode destroyed all of that. The fact that they would do this when they're clearly not planning to bring back the original cast of contestants for the foreseeable future, and worse say they aren't planning to redeem Courtney......This episode just should not exist. It was the only time where Courtney's fans and haters seemed to agree with each other on something, this was the most massive dick move they pulled. And it certainly doesn't do anything to endear me to Gwen. Who used to be my favorite character. There really is no reason to go back to All-Stars at all except to remember what not to do in a Total Drama season.
my biggest issue with this episode is that this challenge WASN’T EVEN A CHALLENGE DONE IN A PREVIOUS SEASON, unlike all the other challenges…this really shows that the writers did not know what to do with this episode lol. although i don’t really like courtney, i was hoping at least she could get redeemed and develop a close relationship with gwen, but no. we do get that for like two episodes then mal brings up a chart that wasn’t shown or mentioned in any other episode prior to this one, which irritated me so much. if they really wanted to make courtney the villain again this season, they should’ve maybe made her try to take advantage of gwen’s niceness to form an alliance or something…also i found her so annoying when she found that shortcut…like this was a terrible way to end courtney’s character, which is quite unfortunate cuz i was totally on board for gwen x courtney. this would be my least favorite season if pakitew island didn’t exist tho…
Agreed, but because of this, Gwen’s character is also ruined. Idk what happened/how, but Gwen is not her anymore. She turned from a badass girl who just wanted to play the game into a person who just wanted to be friends with Courtney?? tbh the gwucan breakup was uncalled for, as Duncan literally wanted to take things slow with Gwen? I feel like all stars had all different surprises, all which makes no sense. Like literally all the characters in all stars are ruined !! I have like no feel in this.. just what happened to the characters... Especially Gwen!! Now everyone hates her :(
Total drama just hates courtney like she had so much potential in all stars she moved on from duncan settled her relationship with gwen and she really deserved to win that season but no they threw that out the window with sundae muddy sundae like even if you wanted to eliminate courtney you could have done it with out ruining there relationship and the entire episode courtney was so out of character cuz when she told gwen she would take her to the finales she even said in her confessional that she meant it and also she literally has a strong stomach and would be able to eat the sundae this is exactly why i hate all stars everyone was just so out of character all of you courtney haters say courtney deserved it are so wrong courtney deserved this seasons win no one can convince me otherwise
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Think of Lindsay this season this way: the smartest thing ANYONE did was get themselves out the second they were able to. Lindsay went galaxy-brain avoiding this shitshow.
She wanted lip gloss
But she ain't gonna even try anymore I think she knew better ways lmfao😭
There’s a mini theory of basically that idea. Think about it, Lindsay may be dumb, but she definitely knows about basic motor functions. According to the theory, she acted dumb to annoy the people who treated her badly, even letting Courtney get crushed by Sierraz
@@XD-yn6hbthe only times Lindsay was acting that dumb was when she was around Heather and Courtney, two people she coincidentally does not like.
And it’s nobody else, just them.
Total Drama is such a confusing show, like it just gets progressively more unhinged, and Chris McLean is basically just a sociopath at this point
i feel like with every season he spirals deeper into insanity especially if you compare to island
OMG I hated Chris McLean
@@Lilothestitchnoooo he is the besttt the first time I've ever favorited a psycho (well and Izzy is my no.1 favorite)
Pretty sure he’s always been a sociopath-
@@Courtney_di0rFr
The way you could have still had Courtney get eliminated this episode, but allowed her to keep her friendship with Gwen. Literally just remove the chart stuff and find some way for her to not be able to eat her sundae at the end. Like, I don't know, it gets destroyed by one of the mutant animals or she mixed up an ingredient with something identical that made it evaporate or something.
like it did not need to be that brutal it’s crazy..
@@lulaloopsey Honestly, I think that's a big part of why I hate the episode? It's especially annoying since, as far as I'm aware, they don't seem to want to revisit most of the old cast, so Gwen and Courtney's friendship ending never even gets addressed again.
Exactly omg it makes me so mad that we’ll never get the og cast back for another season cuz courtney and gwen’s relationship ended so badly. the writers sometimes just like eliminating contestants weirdly when they want them out, like lindsay’s elimination in island. ( it’s so bad i hate it sm ) i guess courtney’s elimination was supposed to be karma but she really didn’t deserve all that. ( and this is coming from someone who doesn’t even like courtney that much ) also unrelated but i hate how the finale is two revenge contestants in an all star season, like i would’ve preferred a courtney vs zoey or gwen vs zoey finale instead but let’s be fr the finale was so obvious…
@zozoyoyo_0 I thought Lindsay's elimination in Island made sense. It was only a matter of time until Heather got Lindsay eliminated from using her for so long. And she got to cuss Heather out and realize how manipulative she was.
tdas was so heartbreaking because it had so much potential, set up so much for my fav character (Courtney), JUST to rip away her girlfriend last second.
Also something to add about her elimination, she might’ve voted for herself. Chris says that the vote was 3-2 and assuming gwen actually got zoey to vote courtney with her, it would mean Z+G voted Scott while S,C,+M voted Courtney. They didn’t confirm anything but it’s not impossible for gay people to still be real after the season is over
We don’t know if Courtney voted herself off.
All we needed was to know how Mal got hold of that godamn chart.
RIGHT
ask Ed Mcdonald
It wasn’t even a chart, it was more of a doodle. Courtney would NEVER do a chart so silly like that. She would put actual statistics and charts on it, with at most a basic doodle for each character.
Tbh, Mall’s logic is probably that being caught by Courtney for sexual assault is just a bonus.
being a total drama stan is so hard because no one talks abt it anymore 💔
the only people who do are such haters towards the new season because it’s a different cast as if all stars didn’t ruin half of their favorite characters anyways 😭
@@lulaloopsey exactly!! I'm actually very excited to see what they do with an all new cast
There are SO MANY moments when Courtney is out of character. As you mentioned, she would never be dumb enough to make it easy for Mal to find her chart, but also, she would NEVER feed shit to anybody. Even coming back to Season 3, she was still human, not a monster. And on top of that, even if she actually did it, she wouldn't feel gross about eating it, or are all we forgetting the China episode in TDWT where she ate everything for Alejandro instead of him??? Heck, they even made Courtney go out of character in comparison to THIS season, nobody's forgetting the iconic "I never really missed Duncan but I really missed you" line, she had absolutely no reason to say that if it wasn't true. Some people claim TDAS is the closest Courtney's personality has ever been to TDI (which I understand, but I don't think Courtney in TDWT was as different as people say)
This season is fucked up for so many reasons, but Courtney's derailmnet is the one that really stick out like a sore thumb to me. She deserved better, she deserved to win TDAS, she deserved to become Gwen's best friend! Thank you, writers, I hate it 😊 (but love your Total Drama videos fyi)
Exactly. Courtney would never feed someone animal poop and etc. She was intense at times but was high maintenance and had standards. Also I feel like she should've won All Stars, on top of rekindling her friendship with Gwen and actually confronting Duncan on cheating on her. Courtney is one of the only contestants that were unfairly booted in all three original seasons, she was never voted off through a consensus.
Oh by way heros vs villian thing, it sort based on Survivor of the same name.
And fun fact i found out ed macdoanld is a writer.
And Here some original Idea of all star
the original All-Stars line-up included Owen, Cody, and Brick, but later decisions had them replaced with Gwen and Sam, and the cast cut down to 14. However Owen still managed to get a cameo in the finale, while Cody was frequently mentioned by Sierra with his face appearing in her hallucinations. The same line-up also revealed plots that didn't make it into the season such as Courtney getting revenge on Heather, Duncan getting revenge on Courtney, the continuation of Zoey's commando persona, and Scott creating a new and improved strategy after analyzing past Total Drama episodes.
Owen was dropped because according to rumors, Scott McCord declined to voice him for a whole season.
Cody was dropped because they thought his relationship with Sierra had been fully played out in World Tour.
Brick was replaced by Sam because the latter had "more drama potential".
Anne Maria was also a part of the original cast before being replaced by an Island competitor (allegedly Gwen).
And then there's a trailer from late 2011 (two months before Revenge of the Island aired and almost two years before All-Stars actually aired), which may be an indicator that Justin, Beth, Ezekiel, Blaineley, Izzy, Geoff, Bridgette, Trent, Leshawna, Harold, Noah and Tyler may have also been considered to compete in the season at one point.
The fact that we got SAM in the All Stars cast over Owen is insane..
They really forgot that Owen existed after World Tour 😐
like how are we having an all stars cast without owen??
I think they wanted equal contestants as there was 7 from original cast and 7 from season 4 cast but someone like Brick would have even made more sense than sam
@@lulaloopsey OR LESHAWNA😭
like how are you not gunna have owen when he literally won season one and made it past the merge three times, and not having leshawna was literally a crime
Ngl if Sam got what he wanted/what he came for then it wouldn’t be as boring, BUT HE DIDNT
Sundae Muddy sundae is the pure excuse for a dramatic elimination -courtney
I'd honestly love to see future videos about the love triangle and Gwent break up. Or really anything you'd want to talk/rant about with this show because your analysis and review is really entertaining.
i have a video planned on the love triangle for this summer ! i plan to re-analysis the whole thing & do a deep dive i just have to rewatch the show (which i will probably start multiple TDI related scripts for future videos at the same time)
yessss i’d love a video on that, gwent is my all time fav total drama couple and i hated how their relationship ended ;(
I don’t know anything about Total Drama, so thank you for providing this tea for me.
YIPP EEE i was one of the people that requested td related content and even with only 2 vids abt total drama theyre both bangers and youre probably one of the most based td fans ive seen on youtube!! I was hyperfixated on it two years ago and got 2 rewatching it recently and its comming back 2… Rlly exited for the new seasons too!! Anyways ya, case in point good video and justice for gwourtney indeed.
thank you!! in the making of this video i rewatched a lot of video essays on the show and i’m starting to fall back into it now 😭 but my hyperfixation will definitely return when the newer seasons come out
Omg this makes me really wanna rewatch the show although I’ve only ever seen the first season so I never knew any of these other ones existed (thanks Netflix for only having the first one)
the whole franchise is free to watch on youtube ! i watch here rather than netflix because netflix has the censored verison which isn’t as funny
@@lulaloopsey thank you for letting me know I’m definitely gonna go watch it now
Courtney: Ugh! Why can't Gwen just be impressed with my genius and go along with it?! Huh! No wonder she has such a hard time keeping friends.
*says the girl who made more enemies than Heather and made only one frickin' friend during her whole time on the show*
I also like to mention that there were some continuity errors with this episode. Also the showed favoritism towards Mike and Zoey.
1. Courtney says that 5th place is the farthest she has ever made it on Total Drama even thought she got 4th place in Total Drama Action.
2. In Total Drama World Tour she says that she has an iron stomach but here she says she can’t eat disgusting food cause it’s a sundae with bird vomit, also she is lactose intolerant.
Literally I just want a new season with a full cast of at least 24 contestants of a mix of original cast and revenge of the island cast and have Scott and Courtney be the final 2 because that's what it should have been in all stars
I swear its so out of character even in another episode (forgot the name) she said to Gwen "If I don't win the million bucks, I hope you do!" and in a confessional she said "And I mean it too!" and now all of a sudden she wants her to be voted out 3rd to last-
Oh my gosh, this... I had such a strong hyperfix on Mike and the system he is a host of. Seems you're spreading the TD hyperfixation revival bug
What is sundae muddy sundae like idk what episode you are talking about cuz the end of all stars Courtney won the million and her Gwen got together in the end
Season 5 episode 11 I think
They always try and make Courtney the villain, its so sad, she was my favorite character from season 1 to now
Same
Everything you mentioned was dying got revived 😭😭
0:44 I feel you on spiritual level.
its funny how all the fandoms you mentioned got revived or will be XD
RIGHT IM SO EXCITED
BROO
ALL STARS WAS MY FAVORITE SEASON AS A CHILD
I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS VID
I don't actually dislike All Stars, it's bad qualities are unintentionally hilarious and it's got some fun bits. This episode is pretty bad tho, not THE all time worst, but pretty bad. Justice for Gwourtney!
this is exactly how i feel. gwen’s elimination in the next episode was also crazy
@@-rizenliterally i can’t even watch her elimination, they did my fav character so dirty
like all stars ain’t the worst season when pakitew exists, but there are MANY MANY things that could’ve been better…
@@zozoyoyo_0 I liked it more than the new season too
@@zozoyoyo_0 But hey atleast she came back in the next episode.
watching this after melanie announced portals is like “yeah soo about that..”
RIGHT i really manifested her comeback i am so excited
i just noticed that the music playing in the background is the music that plays whenever the “daters” appear in the first few episodes
#justiceforgwourtney PLEASE I WANT IT TO BE CANON.
I kind of like the idea of Mal getting arrested for breaking copyright law
The fact u mentioned melanie martinez and she just dropped snippets😭😭😭
RIGHT i literally manifested it 😭 everything i mentioned in that part of the video is being revived now
@@lulaloopsey SAME!!!
@@lulaloopsey Iconicc
i was making my friend watch every season up to all-stars (we decided to skip paketiew and just go straight to the ridonculous race) and i skipped this episode for both our sakes, i wanted to sell the show to them
i always thought it would have been really cool had they taken duncan still liking courtney not actually upsetting gwen for some reason unbeknownst to gwen herself, and it slowly burning into this idea of, once things were patched up between all three of them, the realization that duncan and gwen were into each other but also both into courtney. coulda had some baller representation and just put them all together lol
technically a love square
trent,courtney,duncan and gwen
Courtney has been a villain since action
20:15 LOOK AT THE CAPTIONS..
I DID NOT EXPECT THAT WHAT
Okay, but Scott is legendary in this episode
"i have the most confusing characters no i do"
total drama: .....
ok i said before but i got some theory.
Scott's suggestion that the Villainous Vultures should throw the challenge to get rid of Lightning as well as his switch of plans from sabotaging his own team from last season to sabotaging the opposing team in this episode seems to come from one of the season's original concepts, which would have involved Scott adapting to a new ruthless strategy after watching all previous Total Drama episodes during the interim between Revenge and All-Stars, but Scott being the main antagonist again was shelved in favor of Mal and him being simply more strategic than before was shelved in favor of making him the Iron Butt Monkey comic relief character with a romantic subplot with Courtney.
i don´t think mal was going to be the bad guy.
and for records (scott is parody of russell hantz a common criticism aginst scott, is why sabotages his own team, that is kinda stupid. well he is parody of russell hantz from Survivor. who sort did the same thing) (and also owen is a parody of richard hatch who one season 1 of survivor, and he is walk around naked. and got some gayish feeling and got money problem)
and The military theme of the challenge as well as a reference to a military movie in the title of the episode appear to be leftovers from the version of the season where Brick, the military cadet, was supposed to compete.
and for records i still confused about this. ok is becaouse the writer feel sam got more drama potential. i am like wait a mintue wait what. i mean you can have him and jo. and also you can brick help his team and maybe got rival with courtney.
i feel brick got more potential. maybe try get rid of fear of dark.
Sam's role throughout the episode seems to be the biggest example of him replacing an originally planned to compete Owen as he's showing behavior very in-character to Owen and one that doesn't have much to do with Sam's personality. Specifically, him being the one to eat the biggest portion of his team's pancake, him stealing a part of it to keep it just in case he's exiled to Boney Island, as well as facing off Alejandro in the last part of the challenge (as their animosity towards each other makes more sense, considering it'd be a continuation of their initially one-sided rivalry from World Tour).
yes i am pretty sure this
19:11 To be fair, Mal also attempted to murder (or at least, severely injure) Zoey, Cameron, Gwen and Scott, so I can see why Duncan would be scared of him since he likely attempted murder in the past if what he tried to do to the aforementioned characters is anything to go by.
The fandom dying thing is so real like it’s so annoying😭
Courtney is my favorite character behind Noah the reason why it wasn’t my favorite is due to this episode I try to defend her *the list* is sooo stupid it’s like the writers created it last minute (also I kinda liked all stars besides the list)
Everyone except sam and Sierra were all great choices for all stars for there replacement owen or leshawnua
Brick silent b or dawn
I still question why they wrote Courtney off like that?
The odds were not in Courtney's favor... 😭😭
I haven't even watched the video yet but naming an episode of a kids show after sunday bloody sunday is crazy
Sunday Bloody Sunday is a song by the Irish band U2 that's about Bloody Sunday, an incident in 1972 in Derry, Northern Ireland, where 26 unarmed civilians (half of whom were killed) were shot by British soldiers during a protest march against the internment without trial that was taking place at the time
(there's a lot of context to it that can be traced back centuries but basically from the 60s to 1998 things in Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK unlike the rest of Ireland, were REALLY bad--the fact that this era is known as "The Troubles" should give you an idea)
i breathe gwourtney🤞🤞
off topic but i feel proud to be the 1,000th like 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Wow. They robbed Courtney every season in season 1 she was unfairly eliminated in season 2 she was meant to win in season 3 the love tryangle all stars she was meant to win and the hole Courtney and Gwen thing
They really brought back Sam over Brick and Dawn
Need more total drama videos 😊🥹😍🥰🤗😎😊😉
I love your vids
Literally
Day 1 of requesting bee and puppycat analysis and review
honestly ik its an unpopular opinion, but i loved all stars and its one of my favorite seasons.
No.
what do you mean no???? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN??@@whosjoseHOLAAMIGO
It sucked@@oatmeal5004
they turned duncan into trent 2.0 and trent was rumored laughting at him behind the scenes
the same type of persanality issue trent had but worse his badboy gig was annoying cause he wanted to be bad but did good things.
did the writers not learn their lesson on how they destroyed trent or even bridgette and tyler.
#justiceforcourtney
Any plans to do a video about Mike and Zoey?
not at the moment but i wouldn’t be opposed to it ! if i did it’d probably be about how oblivious zoey was during this season because it drove me nuts
@@lulaloopsey Tell me about it. Honestly I feel like Mike was manipulating and gaslighting Zoey and Cameron.
@@lulaloopsey video on how horrible TDAS was with Mike’s DID, haven’t seen it bashed in a vid before
To me, this is the second worst episode of the show. The only worse one to me is A Blast from the Past.
valid because it’s pahkitew
help mike did attempted murder .. HOW DID BLUD NOT GO TO JAIL..
I don't dislike it but i will say the build up To the mess was pretty strange.
i saw your comment on a video of another youtuber that i watch and i was like “huh i haven’t seen her videos in a while she was pretty cool i wonder what happened” ONLY TO CHECK BACK AND SEE YOUVE BEEN UPLOADING FOR MONTHS?? girl youtube is NOT doing you justice, i have notifs on and i have gotten nothing
WELCOME BACK ! youtube has only started to push my content out again recently so sadly i’m not surprised
I have nothing but hate for All-Stars, and especially for this episode. As much as I would have liked Courtney to actually make the finals, the thing I REALLY wanted was redemption for her character. Redemption for Gwen, and for them to make things up. And this episode destroyed all of that. The fact that they would do this when they're clearly not planning to bring back the original cast of contestants for the foreseeable future, and worse say they aren't planning to redeem Courtney......This episode just should not exist. It was the only time where Courtney's fans and haters seemed to agree with each other on something, this was the most massive dick move they pulled. And it certainly doesn't do anything to endear me to Gwen. Who used to be my favorite character.
There really is no reason to go back to All-Stars at all except to remember what not to do in a Total Drama season.
my biggest issue with this episode is that this challenge WASN’T EVEN A CHALLENGE DONE IN A PREVIOUS SEASON, unlike all the other challenges…this really shows that the writers did not know what to do with this episode lol. although i don’t really like courtney, i was hoping at least she could get redeemed and develop a close relationship with gwen, but no. we do get that for like two episodes then mal brings up a chart that wasn’t shown or mentioned in any other episode prior to this one, which irritated me so much. if they really wanted to make courtney the villain again this season, they should’ve maybe made her try to take advantage of gwen’s niceness to form an alliance or something…also i found her so annoying when she found that shortcut…like this was a terrible way to end courtney’s character, which is quite unfortunate cuz i was totally on board for gwen x courtney. this would be my least favorite season if pakitew island didn’t exist tho…
Agreed, but because of this, Gwen’s character is also ruined. Idk what happened/how, but Gwen is not her anymore. She turned from a badass girl who just wanted to play the game into a person who just wanted to be friends with Courtney?? tbh the gwucan breakup was uncalled for, as Duncan literally wanted to take things slow with Gwen? I feel like all stars had all different surprises, all which makes no sense. Like literally all the characters in all stars are ruined !! I have like no feel in this.. just what happened to the characters... Especially Gwen!! Now everyone hates her :(
@@jennoiuTbh the Gwuncan breakup was one of the things I liked about All Stars since I never liked that ship to begin with.
honestly, total drama all stars is kinda overhated in my opinion, it had it's moments
I really wanted Gwen and Courtney to be girlfriends
Total drama just hates courtney like she had so much potential in all stars she moved on from duncan settled her relationship with gwen and she really deserved to win that season but no they threw that out the window with sundae muddy sundae like even if you wanted to eliminate courtney you could have done it with out ruining there relationship and the entire episode courtney was so out of character cuz when she told gwen she would take her to the finales she even said in her confessional that she meant it and also she literally has a strong stomach and would be able to eat the sundae this is exactly why i hate all stars everyone was just so out of character all of you courtney haters say courtney deserved it are so wrong courtney deserved this seasons win no one can convince me otherwise
3rd worst episode imo, behind the AS finale and You Regatta Be Kidding Me
the worst episode in the world
I love Total Drama but Sundae Muddy Sundae was awful.
All stars was just so…… god awful
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