My husband and I are both Christians and we were also both virgins on our wedding night, but our parents didn't get involved in our personal business they just left us be like people ought to!
Yeah these people are extra weird tho. This is NOT normal behavior amongst most people who consider themselves Christians. These people are closer to Mormons with their magic underwear.
Same. Our parents had NO interest in giving us advice. They knew we knew the basics, and left it at that. We figured it out just fine, and 3 years, and 1 kid and 1 on the way, later are very happy with our bedroom life.
@@annagarcia1527 but that's okay. Same, actually. It's always different when you are with sometime you truly love though. It freaky does not matter how many partners you've had. Once you've met "the one" anyone who came before is nothing but a very distant memory.
Omg, I was grossed out just watching Jim Bob teasing his engaged child kissing Michelle and mocking the young couple that they can not do this til marriage. I found it sadistic and creepy. This stuff is beyond sick! Those poor kids!
I’ve always believed that Jim Bob was purposely trying to get Michelle pregnant it was almost like a sport for him... and I still remember when Jessa and Ben were getting married Michelle kept talking about babies and Ben’s mom said slow down they have plenty time for that...
Some of the information is kind of dangerous you should never use baby oil in your girl. You can set off the ph and have those fungal problems or have like bv.
That’s why “the list” also has antibiotics and fungal cream!!! They probably think it is FUN GAL cream and it is a wedding night must have so the girl can be more fun for her new husband! They probably don’t even know what a fungal infection is!!! These people sure do think of everything 🙈🙄🤢 Since the Duggar family is so entrepreneurial, they should sell baby oil and FUN GAL cream as a box set to all of their fundamental newlywed friends!!!!
@@twalk263 These people are nuts and don’t seem to understand biology! Besides not knowing that a woman isn’t supposed put oils and foreign substances up in her woman parts, they also think that you need a pregnancy test on the honeymoon, as if you would be able to detect pregnancy after the first time you do it!
@Amaliya Safaryan I taught s education and I was cringing! They have no idea at all, I’ve never heard such nonsense and lies basically, bad advice, using baby oil with essential oils down there....🤦🏼♀️😤
I remember episodes where Michelle talked about keeping the medicine cabinet stocked with pregnancy tests because there would always be a need for them once the daughters were married.
I've been married almost 29 years and none of that stuff is needed. If I were one of their daughters I'd be scared to death being left alone with my husband. That stuff is natural when you love each other. (3-4x a day? I got other stuff to do!)
Well that's why you have all those kids. You don't have to do anything, kids do all the work. Michelle's job was just to be joyfully available and having babies
I just feel so bad for those girls because they’re taught from a very young age that once they get married they have to obey their husbands which honestly just seems like a setup for SA
Imagine being a young woman whose never had any teaching about physical relationships before, suddenly having all this horrifying information thrown at you all at once. And finding out that you weren’t allowed to say no either even if you physically aren’t able to.
A pregnancy test is not going to show positive on your honey moon. That in itself can cause a huge amount of anxiety if someone is putting this kind of expectation on them. I’ve been a Certified Nurse Midwife, and have counseled a lot of young women and couples. So much of this is sooooo wrong! They could be injured both physically and emotionally as well. This really kind of makes me sick.
This right here. Came to say this. It can be agonizing to wait long enough to even take the test. Still negative?? Better try again!!! I suspect it’s just more of a control tactic to bring the tests!!!
My grandma waited 10 years to get married (she fell for my grandpa when she was 13). She expected to get pregnant right away. It didn't happen the first month. It didn't happen the second month, either, so she made a doctor's appointment to see what was wrong...but she cancelled the appointment because she got pregnant. A pregnancy test on the honeymoon doesn't even make sense...unless the honeymoon is a couple months long...??
I’m a retired Certified Nurse Midwife. I’m appalled at this horrible advice!! It really does border on being SA! Bringing pregnancy test is ridiculous, as tests won’t show a positive for several weeks. Just having them with you sends a message that you have to perform. Lidocaine??? Omg, a woman want to feel such intimate moments. I mean really, this whole thing just makes me ill. This is SA!! Makes me sooo sad.
So dangerous aside from pleasurable sensation...it is important to feel if something has become painful!! Just when I thought the Dugger family could not get any creepier!!
Literally the only advice that was okay is literally peeing before and after sex. UTI’s are not fun. But if y’all are throwing essential oils down there, then it doesn’t really matter 🤮
@@shakeurbooTAY same here! And these poor girls don't know any different, so they're going to follow this advice blindly and pay the price for it, as will the new husbands because the wives will be out of commission for a few days lol
I cannot imagine putting peppermint oil down there ouch what kind of ridiculous advice is this? Advising your kids to burn their most sensitive areas? Make it make sense, ya can’t
For goodness sake, there is no way they will need pregnancy tests on a honeymoon! They clearly don’t understand basic human anatomy. Unless they are gone for like 3 weeks, they are just wasting tests. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked.
If any man comes at my “front hug area” with lidocaine or peppermint oil, he’s gonna wish he had lidocaine on his front hug junk because that crap’s not gonna fly with me! This was a train wreck I could not stop watching!!
I know!!!!! and puss deodorant? which also would irritate tf out of any areas. baby oil would give an infection quicker than jim bob skeeting on michelles butt!
I appreciate all of the effort you put into shining a light on this disturbed behavior. People need to know what goes on behind the fake smiles and “godliness” portrayed by these families.
I totally agree with that and I think there is a lot more to the fact why he backs Josh so much because I think Josh may know something on his father and can't wait to see what comes out in the future cuz Jim Bob is a creepy man
I would run for the hills if that was the advice from my parents before my wedding. Many of the items they suggest would cause great discomfort. I never use bath bombs, bath oils or any scented soaps in my bath. Going from never to 3 or 4 times a day is just crazy. Suggesting that the honeymoon be spent in the hotel room "just doing it"? I'm surprised the poor women survive without PTSD.
I can’t imagine going through this. Even after years of being sexually active, 3-4 times a day is painful to even read. This is torture for the woman. Pure torture.
Seriously, same. I was rather impressed at that one point. Now I understand why Michelle Duggar is so beatifically happy. The woman is getting 3-4 front hugs a day.
@@karensiegel6669 They also showed JB having a (staged) talk about the birds and the bees with Josh, telling him that he will be ready to go while she's going to need more time.
Growing up I was raised in a similar cult like the Duggar’s.. on my wedding night.. The pastor, My parents, and her Parents Set us down and told us what we could do and what we couldn’t do for our wedding night.. Yeah I looked back and I realized that it was a cult I was in. 💯
I am so glad you can see you were in the same situation as the Dugger women and that you recognize what they were saying and doing is wrong. I wish other women in the same situation would have your wisdom to recognize this.
Jim Bob is so darn creepy. To have to get off every night even when your girls have been assaulted is telling. I can’t help seeing him as an inappropriate pervert. Asking his wife, in front of his children, if she is turned on, is sickening.
@@2222bearbear The only thing I would hope for besides my future husband being a good man who treats me well is that he would ask my mother for her blessing for my hand in marriage - to me it shows respect for the awesome woman who brought me into the world.
@@victoriabardsley8097 I think that’s so sweet. I hate how patriarchy and the weird creepy entitlement dads have towards their daughter’s sexuality can ruin the sweet gesture of talking to your family, provided you all have a good relationship.
I also think their adult kids who just got married they know to bring deodorant and any other smell Goods or snacks they might need. Jim Bob is acting like they're going into battle and need rations instead of a honeymoon filled with fun and romance
I am 100% joyfully UNavailable after hearing this! These poor women! I can’t even look at them now without thinking each wife had this done to her in some way! Gross!
None of this could ever produce intimacy for a couple. It’s way too clinical and not what these couples need before they get married. I feel sorry for these kids if this is all they learned from their parents. Sex is way more about expressing the love that you have for one another and bringing extra liners, douche, and fungal cream won’t make them understand how beautiful their first time or second time will be.
I really feel sorry for the girls, especially Anna. Yes, Daddy is a Jeffery Epstein protégé. I am rooting for the Jill & Derrick more now. Bless her heart for having her eyes opened & getting professional help. There is hope!
JimBob actually kind of reminds me of David Berg from Children of God in many ways. Invert the political ideologies between the two, but hold onto the ideas regarding "being fruitful and multiplying", as well as the deification of the centralized male figure, and the similarities are obvious. The only difference is Berg did his dirty deeds on a much larger and grander scale.
OMG, if my Dad had even tried to give us a honeymoon prep talk I would have fainted with embarrassment & my husband would have told him to duck off!!! In fact the only "advice " we were given was my Dad warning us to make sure we were up & at the Airport on time for our flight, to Tenerife the day after the wedding. The advice my husband's Dad gave him was to not bother having kids, coz babies are very hard work & they cramp your style. Funnily enough both my Mother & his Mother, separately, gave me the exact same advice......that a wife should always have some money, stashed away in secret, in case she ever "needed to run away". That was it, no diagrams, no long shopping list of oils, potions, ointments, underwear etc etc And, we had 5 kids in 7 years, without needing any instruction manuals or lessons from anyone!!! 😜😜
Sickening. It sounds like a clinical science experiment. You're in fear of checking off your list as you are probably going to be grilled when you return.
I agree 100% with you that if you love each other and are excited for each other than NONE of this is necessary. If it is necessary then it’s not the right time to do it. Respect the woman and know when her body says “no thanks maybe later” ugh sickening
Exactly. If it doesn't just happen, there's no way your brand new virgin husband is going to fix it on a honeymoon!! In that case it is a MEDICAL CONDITION indicative of a pelvic pain disorder (1 in 3 women suffers from pelvic pain BTW), a muscle/connective tissue disease/condition, or history of SA.
I’d have been horrified to have my parents been this involved. My husband and I were in love and figured it out for ourselves and that was the way we wanted it.
If you have to use lidocaine me you don’t have a serious medical condition, it’s seriously bordering on SA. (Also, the perfumed shower gel, “freshening bottle” and special perfume are going to make that pain so much worse. This is terrible.
I couldn't imagine talking to my mother about that stuff, much less my father! It's so beyond creepy! No wonder Jana stays celibate for 31 years and counting, so she doesn't have to go through these embarrassing and disgusting talks! I think people on their honeymoon can pretty much figure it out for themselves! Or maybe give them a pamphlet or a book with info. It's pretty simplistic! And Katie Joy did you say butt sex? Because that's disgusting to talk to your kids about ever! For God's sake the girls are already scared enough wondering how bad it's going to hurt for the first time! And then you want to introduce them to one of the most painful things, and destroy their sex life on their honeymoon! You would think that anal sex would be against their religion, especially being as homophobic as they are, and since it doesn't lead to procreation! I Can imagine Josh Duggar salivating when they talked to him about all the ways that he gets to violate his wife! Eww Jim Bob is so creepy, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't tell the girls that he had to help prepare them for their husbands! I'm sure Josh will try to pull that Shit, and Anna will forgive him because that's what she's supposed to do! Or She'll make an excuse for him saying that he was just trying to be a good father!
I’ll disagree. Haha. I fkn love my essential oil lube; it’s pretty incredible at how it enhances things. (But NOT the same as what’s mentioned in the video)
These 2 need to be sent to jail. Wife’s are not husbands property a women should have a choice about how many children she has. Plus the wedding night is sacred between a man and his wive.
I can't even think about talking about that with my parents. If anything, it sounds more like what a birthing class would tell you to bring when you go to the hospital to give birth.
Wow I can't imagine being given this list, it makes something so natural sound like a procedure, chore, duty not something to be enjoyed and spontaneous, specially for the girls. I feel so bad for them, they are treated like baby machines and not people with feelings and needs.
I totally agree. If my mom and daddy gave me a list like this before my wedding. I would have NOT gotten married in the first place. My furst marriage was a mistake. 5 years later I remet my second husband and we were together from that day. July 8, 1984 until his passing on May 30, 2017. One of the GREATEST men I've EVER known besides my daddy. 💔 Miss you babe. 💔
Hi Katie Joy! I was SO creeped out by hearing this! I think that you hit the nail on the head when you said that those instructions were for two people that did not even know each other, felt awkward around each other, weren’t in love, and were doing this out of obligation. I teared up when I thought of young woman going into a marriage like this! They must be so scared and anxious! ❤️🙏✌🏻
Katie, you are so right about the Jeffrey Epstein thing. The more we learn about JB, the worse it is. I wonder why they still have people who admire them. Blow's my mind.
Out of all the really great Duggar content and as hard as this is to hear- I’m really glad you did this video. People need to stand up and advocate against this. I truly had no idea- based on the honeymoon shows, it always appeared to be a nice little trip and a hint of creepy. I just had no idea it got this bad.
I didn't even get to front hug on my wedding night. We were drunk off champagne and ate a ton of cake before passing out in our clothes! 😂 JB and M would have been so disappointed.
I have never been so mortified in my life for these girls.....as awkward as it is the first time you engage (wedding night, or just first time) this list and having your wife or girlfriends parents sit you down and tell you in explicit detail of how to do this just kills it, and makes it Sooooo much more awkward and weird.
Omg can you imagine being Jana (an over 30 year old woman) having to listen to him instruct her and her husband to be on how to get this job done. Heck no! No wonder she hasn’t married yet. A guy would really have to be worth it to ensure that conversation!
Wow. I thought the point of the wedding night was just a 2 person experience to show your love in the most intimate way and learn and grow. I did not know it was a whole group discussion. Guess i messed up..
@@cyanide_lollipop3264 Yep! At one of the girls' wedding he made a comment after the couple kissed to the effect of "Looks like they figured out how to do it......" then he paused and said "Here, let me show you how it's done..."and then plants one on Michelle. It was real cringeworthy!
Are they trying to scare them out of doing it? This is so scary lol... The first thing they should do is rip up the list... I'm sure they can figure it out 🤦🏻♀️
I feel very badly for all these girls and i have to wonder about the boys as well..no wonder their son is so screwed up....imagine the messages he was getting from jim bob .and we only know some of it imagine what we do not know....omg. I consider myself pretty open minded but this made me squeamish and uncomfortable. Thankyou for doing this. Jim bob should be standing along side his son in court. The apple never falls far from the tree.
Ugh I’m remembering how josh and Anna went to the beach for their honeymoon. Poor Anna I’m sooo upset for her... you know he assaulted her exactly like he was instructed with no negative regard for her pain and humiliation. This is so sad. So sad. So upsetting. Poor Anna I hope she can learn to understand what’s happened to her one day.
I agree with you when you said “if they were in love it will come natural and you won’t need that dumb list”. That list does sound like it’s for strangers
This whole scenario sounds just terrible. What happened to your first time "Should" be Romantic! My Fiance and I were both V's. My Fiance set out a scene "right out of the movies", candles in a big circle in a field of wildflowers on a warm late spring night, blankets laid out under the stars, so very romantic. We felt like the only two people in the world. Maybe we were just very lucky that we had the Perfect First Time Together. I can't imagine having a checklist of things I might be forgetting before blast off!! Yuck! All that sounds like a Root Canal Procedure I feel terrible for all parties involved in this mess. Poor Michelle I can imagine Jim Bob being an extremely selfish lover, even after all those kids.
I might actually be having a root canal on Monday & trust me, I would much rather do that, then have "the talk" with Jim Bob & Michele! Or get the list from them! This all sounds so disgusting & depraved. I just can't imagine any parent saying this kind of stuff!! They are beyond belief!!!
Yeah I mean given all the stuff they use the woman clearly develop infections and I guess they have to cover the smell of that... the natural smell of a healthy one is sexy not gross..
Right? I think most of us can testify that we don’t use essential oils and perfumes on our business and our partners have no issue with how we smell. I mean, if you’re having “activities” 3-4 times a day to the point you’re continuing after she’s developed an infection of some sort, you deserve to stick your face right into whatever stinky mess awaits 💁♀️
It's so sad that all the focus on the honeymoon is on this... what if they actually created fun memories together with an enjoyable destination vacation or something?? We did marriage counseling pre-wedding (from a licensed counselor- not from parents!) and it was all about strengthening communication, being clear about financial/life expectations and goals and learning about our personalities, families of origin etc. :p There is so much more to marriage...
Omg... just imagining losing your virginity then getting used multiple times by a man for multiple days in a row. That makes my heart hurt I can’t imagine the pain the girls would go through.
What I find hilarious is that when TLC films Duggar newlyweds on their exotic honeymoons, they bring along a lot more than one set of clothes and they are incredibly busy doing other activities. I guess once the camera crew packs up they can get down to the business of lidocaine, essential oils and pregnancy tests!
Also, Katie when you mentioned about the awkwardness about people who don't know each other, that is exactly what every Duggar is to their new spouse, strangers. So freaking sad.
This is so creepy. And an invasion of the bride and grooms privacy. Everyone figured it out with out mom and dads creepy suggestions. And take a pregnancy test in your honeymoon? Let’s don’t waste anytime now ? They are so weird!!!!!
imagine being the cleaning staff that sees the creepy basket of honeymoon horror when they come to drop off fresh towels and make the bed . The lidocaine, baby oil, and essential oil "cover up" would probably make them want to call CSI . ( Especially after they see the sick figure diagrams Jim Bob most likely drew for them. lol)
You're assuming that the maid is allowed in. The guy probably answers the door takes the towels & that's it. If their doing it 4 times/ day no need to make the bed. 🤮🤣🤣
Mom Duggar tells her girls are to be ready when her husband wants her no matter what time, so he doesn't wander, can't remember which 9ne but I watched that episode, and whatever he wants.
So disturbing and sad thing I've heard others say this same bad advice of never saying no, giving it up anytime he wants it, and anyway he wants it, and that if you didn't then he will cheat on you.....this is so disturbing, and heartbreaking....if your man loves you he won't cheat on you period let alone cheat on you because you didn't bend over and give it up every time he wanted it. This goes along the same sad advice of you better give it up when he wants it bec if you don't there's always another woman who will...well that may be true that doesn't negate the fact that your man should love you enough not to take those women up on their offer or advances, and instead wait until your ready and in the mood. With that said if the woman is never in the mood, never wants it like it's been a year since she wanted it for example then ether go to counseling to figure out why or talk and decide if maybe it's time to end the relationship...but you never cheat bec your partner isn't giving it up every time you want it, and if she never wants it you instead talk to her see why, there's a reason for everything, go to counseling if she wants, and after you've tried working it out if you feel you need to move on you be honest and tell her, then move out, be by yourself for a while, then start dating, and get with someone else, but you never get with a new woman while still sharing a house with your original woman.
So they’re expecting a woman to just be in complete and utter pain because they haven’t done any of this junk and then are suddenly expected to do it 3 to 4 times a DAY!!!!!????? Jesus Christ! This is definitely setting a woman up to think SA is normal and okay. Sick. These people are so sick.
I know this movie is old, but I read this book early in our marriage..... after we were having struggles. I didn't hear about it from anyone. I was too embarrassed to tell anyone I was having issues, but this book actually helped us a lot. Now its been like 13 or 14 years ago, so I don't really know if there is anything weird in this book. I passed it to a family member who was in pain for a full year during front hugs to help them. There are a lot of issues around this that no one tells you about. I think knowing about them early on can be helpful. Some things like UTI's and going pee right after to help with UTI's is good advice. Some of the things about coconut oil is helpful to some people- I personally use it when I am breastfeeding because I tend to need it more during that time. I find it is unwise to get any antibiotics before you need them though, and I don't think you should self diagnose a bladder infection during the honeymoon. Its an easy test if you do get one. I also find some of the other stuff just weird and borderline not good for down below issues... not what I would do at least. The pregnancy test is weird... Either your on your honeymoon for 2 weeks or longer, which is the soonest after conceiving that you could take your pregnancy test at all..... at if you are on a 2 week honeymoon what the heck- you are going to need more than 3 outfits. That is crazy! I'm sorry, but we waited for our honeymoon, and we definitely did our fair share of front hugs during that time, but I mean after the first 2 days we were wanting to go see things and experience other things besides each others bodies buahahaha. I would have been extremely bored being stuck in a hotel room for 1-2 or however many weeks these things last for the Duggars. if its 1-2 weeks though why would you need a pregnancy test? Also I am sorry but the advice to put a pillow under you is to help get pregnant sooner. That is crazy.....if they are trusting in God for the number of children they are to have- why would they need to help God out? I think its more like a cult where they try to have as many children as possible. They aren't simply "trusting God" for their family size, they are putting having children as an idol that they seem to worship. This is really messed up. I have a large family and I love it, but there comes a point where you should be not trying to do things to get pregnant as soon as possible after. Like not nursing as long so their periods will resume quicker and such. This is all not medically healthy for the woman. This is reducing her to a baby making machine. Sad.
LOL! “Honeymoon Cystitis”, first timers’ blood stains, and a “Husband’s Pillow”.....nothing new to get freaked out about. 🤷♀️ For newbies, forget the bottle of baby oil and bring a bottle(s) of wine.
So strange ! And how long are these honeymoons that you need pregnancy tests on honeymoon?!? This family is so nuts and I agree I think Jimbob enjoys this .
Peeing before and after and having baby wipes for cleanup was the only solid advice. After my kids no longer being babies, I never stopped buying wipes because they’re so convenient for a number of things.
My husband and I are both Christians and we were also both virgins on our wedding night, but our parents didn't get involved in our personal business they just left us be like people ought to!
Yeah these people are extra weird tho. This is NOT normal behavior amongst most people who consider themselves Christians. These people are closer to Mormons with their magic underwear.
Same. Our parents had NO interest in giving us advice. They knew we knew the basics, and left it at that. We figured it out just fine, and 3 years, and 1 kid and 1 on the way, later are very happy with our bedroom life.
Same!
Thank YOU!!
SAME
My husband and I were both virgins we figured it out without a gross talk with our parents!!!!! And as a nurse some of this advise is so wrong!!
My husband and I were as well
That is nice, pretty romantic. I lost mine at 23. But I just wanted to get it over with
@@annagarcia1527 but that's okay. Same, actually. It's always different when you are with sometime you truly love though. It freaky does not matter how many partners you've had. Once you've met "the one" anyone who came before is nothing but a very distant memory.
@@annagarcia1527 Apparently, that's the age Elton John lost his, too.
@@tintinismybelgian random comment...but made me, lol. 😆
I have a strange feeling this talk turns Jim Bob on. And now we know why Josh is the way he is!
My thought also. JB definitely enjoys this. Yuck!!
@@hvarr418 I find him quite repugnant
Well there is a saying what’s in the dog comes out in the pup
It makes me wonder if he ever had "nasty thoughts about his own daughters 🤢🤮
It does.. watch his face during the girls weddings
Omg, I was grossed out just watching Jim Bob teasing his engaged child kissing Michelle and mocking the young couple that they can not do this til marriage. I found it sadistic and creepy. This stuff is beyond sick! Those poor kids!
That was over the top!
Supppper creepy!
I'm telling you. They sure seem to have a fascination with talking/joking about/alluding to the thing they've declared taboo. Makes me 👀🔍 JB
@Mary Levin ...because he IS a little boy.
I bet he got some satisfaction out of it. He is a very sick man. Those poor kids.
I’ve always believed that Jim Bob was purposely trying to get Michelle pregnant it was almost like a sport for him... and I still remember when Jessa and Ben were getting married Michelle kept talking about babies and Ben’s mom said slow down they have plenty time for that...
Michelle has lost all sense of reasoning!
@@booklover2404 did she ever have any? Like seriously?
@@brighidmcmullen9577 Yahtzee !!!!!!!
@@booklover2404 Hilarious comment
@@booklover2404 Lost it? When did she *have* it?
Some of the information is kind of dangerous you should never use baby oil in your girl. You can set off the ph and have those fungal problems or have like bv.
Right!! The vajajay is self cleaning. Ph balance means everything to a woman
Or peppermint oil! 😮
That’s why “the list” also has antibiotics and fungal cream!!! They probably think it is FUN GAL cream and it is a wedding night must have so the girl can be more fun for her new husband! They probably don’t even know what a fungal infection is!!! These people sure do think of everything 🙈🙄🤢
Since the Duggar family is so entrepreneurial, they should sell baby oil and FUN GAL cream as a box set to all of their fundamental newlywed friends!!!!
@@twalk263 These people are nuts and don’t seem to understand biology! Besides not knowing that a woman isn’t supposed put oils and foreign substances up in her woman parts, they also think that you need a pregnancy test on the honeymoon, as if you would be able to detect pregnancy after the first time you do it!
Yeah obviously wrote by a man from amych earlier generation
This is like a car crash. I don’t want to look, but I can’t help it.
That’s a normal reaction over here
@Amaliya Safaryan I taught s education and I was cringing! They have no idea at all, I’ve never heard such nonsense and lies basically, bad advice, using baby oil with essential oils down there....🤦🏼♀️😤
What a perfect description!
@@lilacscentedfushias1852 i cant even imagine how much peppermint oil would burn. No wonder they say to bring antibiotics for UTIs.
I remember episodes where Michelle talked about keeping the medicine cabinet stocked with pregnancy tests because there would always be a need for them once the daughters were married.
I've been married almost 29 years and none of that stuff is needed. If I were one of their daughters I'd be scared to death being left alone with my husband. That stuff is natural when you love each other. (3-4x a day? I got other stuff to do!)
That's why she was always pregnant..geesh Michelle
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amen 💯
Well that's why you have all those kids. You don't have to do anything, kids do all the work. Michelle's job was just to be joyfully available and having babies
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I just feel so bad for those girls because they’re taught from a very young age that once they get married they have to obey their husbands which honestly just seems like a setup for SA
Imagine being a young woman whose never had any teaching about physical relationships before, suddenly having all this horrifying information thrown at you all at once. And finding out that you weren’t allowed to say no either even if you physically aren’t able to.
Joyfully available!!!! Those two remind me of the leader of heavens gate.We all know how that turned out
I'm so, so grateful that I wasn't born into a family like that 😬
Your not alone their!!! Omg
Amen sis. I couldn’t imagine how it must feel. We’re the outside looking in.
Exactly; me too!
Reality is you wouldn't know any better.
@@wanda4573 that's the scariest part
This list makes sex sound so transactional...like you are prepping for freakin surgery or something.
Definitely....only make that a surgery without anesthesia !
Legit. If you’re abstaining for whatever reason, let the married couple figure it out on their own. This is sickening.
exactly!
Lol🤣
Like prepping for a colonoscopy
Who else is joyfully unavailable while they watch this video??
I was joyfully unavailable last night too 🙄
That’s funny!! It put me off altogether
Meeeeeeeeee
For now lol 😅
Present.., 🤣
A pregnancy test is not going to show positive on your honey moon. That in itself can cause a huge amount of anxiety if someone is putting this kind of expectation on them. I’ve been a Certified Nurse Midwife, and have counseled a lot of young women and couples. So much of this is sooooo wrong! They could be injured both physically and emotionally as well. This really kind of makes me sick.
This right here. Came to say this. It can be agonizing to wait long enough to even take the test. Still negative?? Better try again!!! I suspect it’s just more of a control tactic to bring the tests!!!
My grandma waited 10 years to get married (she fell for my grandpa when she was 13). She expected to get pregnant right away. It didn't happen the first month. It didn't happen the second month, either, so she made a doctor's appointment to see what was wrong...but she cancelled the appointment because she got pregnant.
A pregnancy test on the honeymoon doesn't even make sense...unless the honeymoon is a couple months long...??
I was like “How f-Ing long is their honeymoon?” Pregnancies take a bit to become detectable. Lol.
I’m a retired Certified Nurse Midwife. I’m appalled at this horrible advice!! It really does border on being SA! Bringing pregnancy test is ridiculous, as tests won’t show a positive for several weeks. Just having them with you sends a message that you have to perform. Lidocaine??? Omg, a woman want to feel such intimate moments. I mean really, this whole thing just makes me ill. This is SA!! Makes me sooo sad.
Lidocaine to numb it bc the girl is gonna have to do it a thousand times in a week and will be miserable and sore.🤬
That's rape!!
Also because she's gonna dump a bottle of peppermint where it should NEVER go.
God help us! Literally.
HILARIOUS comments 😂😂😂😂😂
So dangerous aside from pleasurable sensation...it is important to feel if something has become painful!! Just when I thought the Dugger family could not get any creepier!!
Literally the only advice that was okay is literally peeing before and after sex. UTI’s are not fun. But if y’all are throwing essential oils down there, then it doesn’t really matter 🤮
And if you're doing essential oils why peppermint? That's like using icy hot! Are you freaking nuts people? Worst advice ever!
@@KJMillerDixon I literally CLENCHED when I heard that. No thanks.
@@shakeurbooTAY same here! And these poor girls don't know any different, so they're going to follow this advice blindly and pay the price for it, as will the new husbands because the wives will be out of commission for a few days lol
I cannot imagine putting peppermint oil down there ouch what kind of ridiculous advice is this? Advising your kids to burn their most sensitive areas? Make it make sense, ya can’t
@@stephanievizzi9147 there is no sense to be made in this advice! They are nuts!
For goodness sake, there is no way they will need pregnancy tests on a honeymoon! They clearly don’t understand basic human anatomy. Unless they are gone for like 3 weeks, they are just wasting tests. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked.
I could only imagine these fools taking a pregnancy test right after the first time! It doesn’t work like that!
Right. Even if you’re in the ovulation window, you’re not going to test positive the next morning lol
In this day and age, they have the internet to help them out and a doctor is giving them that advice? He should lose his licence.
Lol taking a test after the first time...*sobbing*" it didn't work" 🤣
Obviously y'all have never seen Twilight
(I'm just joking by the way 😂💀)
If any man comes at my “front hug area” with lidocaine or peppermint oil, he’s gonna wish he had lidocaine on his front hug junk because that crap’s not gonna fly with me! This was a train wreck I could not stop watching!!
I know!!!!! and puss deodorant? which also would irritate tf out of any areas. baby oil would give an infection quicker than jim bob skeeting on michelles butt!
I heard peppermint oil and immediately started shouting No! Repeatedly. OMG!
I cackled so hard at this😂
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I appreciate all of the effort you put into shining a light on this disturbed behavior. People need to know what goes on behind the fake smiles and “godliness” portrayed by these families.
I always thought Jim Bob was a pervert from the first time I watched the show
Exactly! He’s a pervert.
His name should be a clear give away lol
I got that vibe as well after watching someone shows.
Same
I totally agree with that and I think there is a lot more to the fact why he backs Josh so much because I think Josh may know something on his father and can't wait to see what comes out in the future cuz Jim Bob is a creepy man
Okay with all the ointments,aspirins,wet wipes, vitamins and pregnancy test...the happy couple should just spend 3 days front hugging in a Walgreens.
Lol seriously! I can't imagine going from just side hugging to immediately having sex. That would be traumatizing to go that fast after doing NOTHING.
This is an underrated comment lmao ☠️
Lmao
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Ointments apirin and wet wipes what. the h?
I would run for the hills if that was the advice from my parents before my wedding. Many of the items they suggest would cause great discomfort. I never use bath bombs, bath oils or any scented soaps in my bath. Going from never to 3 or 4 times a day is just crazy. Suggesting that the honeymoon be spent in the hotel room "just doing it"? I'm surprised the poor women survive without PTSD.
I’m sure a lot of them are traumatized by the ordeal if it’s done like this... I’d hope the men wouldn’t want to put their wife’s through this..
I can’t imagine going through this. Even after years of being sexually active, 3-4 times a day is painful to even read. This is torture for the woman. Pure torture.
I am sure a lot of them are suffering in silence
@@asanddy3531 they have to "stay sweet" and not complain to the all important man.
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I would have a raging UTI that would have taken weeks to clear. What a nightmare instead of a honeymoon. Both of those parents creep me out!
I’m honestly surprised they even mentioned female pleasure, And that it should be given before the man gets his.
Seriously, same. I was rather impressed at that one point. Now I understand why Michelle Duggar is so beatifically happy. The woman is getting 3-4 front hugs a day.
Ikr
I was raised extremely religious, they teach married couples that only. They are not going broadcast it to everyone else who is not married.
Yeah, that should be used instead of peppermint oil and baby oil. The female will feel the burn if you get my drift
At least there is that?!🤦♀️
I cannot imagine how horrifying Anna's honeymoon must have been. Josh probably followed this advice to the letter.
The camera man followed Josh and Anna to their room and Josh slammed the door on him. Josh had quite the angry look!
@@karensiegel6669 yikes
@@karensiegel6669 I'm mortified 😅😅
@@karensiegel6669 They also showed JB having a (staged) talk about the birds and the bees with Josh, telling him that he will be ready to go while she's going to need more time.
@@stacymcintyre1796 yes TLC did show the book and the talk.
My front hugging parts just zipped themselves closed, so creepy
Omg thats so funny lol my front hugging parts
Turned off ?
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 my water just came out my nose!
Now that I’ve heard the list I’m not laughing. This is so repulsive! I agree!
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The level of CONTROL these parents exert. Exactly right - no boundaries WHATSOEVER. good heavens. It never ends!!!!
and omg all the wrong lubricants. Wrong wrong wrong
Growing up I was raised in a similar cult like the Duggar’s.. on my wedding night.. The pastor, My parents, and her Parents Set us down and told us what we could do and what we couldn’t do for our wedding night.. Yeah I looked back and I realized that it was a cult I was in. 💯
Oh bless your heart. That would have traumatized me for life!
I gotta know what the rules were!! FYI- I grew up similar to the Duggar’s too. But I was never confronted about my wedding night.
I am so glad you can see you were in the same situation as the Dugger women and that you recognize what they were saying and doing is wrong. I wish other women in the same situation would have your wisdom to recognize this.
if you don’t mind saying, what did they say you couldn’t do?
I am also curious
Jim Bob is so darn creepy. To have to get off every night even when your girls have been assaulted is telling. I can’t help seeing him as an inappropriate pervert. Asking his wife, in front of his children, if she is turned on, is sickening.
Yup. I always said he, like Josh, should be investigated. And that was before the allegations about Josh were made public
Wow!!! They took the fun out of discovering each other. My husband and I fumbled our way into love and its a precious memory to us.
If my future husband tried any of that stuff with me I'd be kicking his arse to the curb and filing for divorce.
This stuff encourages men to play amateur obgyn with their wives. If any man tried this with me, I would kick him to the curb too.
right on sister
As you should!
@@2222bearbear The only thing I would hope for besides my future husband being a good man who treats me well is that he would ask my mother for her blessing for my hand in marriage - to me it shows respect for the awesome woman who brought me into the world.
@@victoriabardsley8097 I think that’s so sweet. I hate how patriarchy and the weird creepy entitlement dads have towards their daughter’s sexuality can ruin the sweet gesture of talking to your family, provided you all have a good relationship.
No wonder Jill and Derick are so heavily into promoting sexual games and fun ways to meet each other’s needs.
I also think their adult kids who just got married they know to bring deodorant and any other smell Goods or snacks they might need. Jim Bob is acting like they're going into battle and need rations instead of a honeymoon filled with fun and romance
Don’t forget your jacket!.. Lolol wtf
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It doesn't sound like the honeymoon's gonna be much fun for the poor girll
I would need therapy if I had a conversation like that with my folks.
I am 100% joyfully UNavailable after hearing this! These poor women! I can’t even look at them now without thinking each wife had this done to her in some way! Gross!
None of this could ever produce intimacy for a couple. It’s way too clinical and not what these couples need before they get married. I feel sorry for these kids if this is all they learned from their parents. Sex is way more about expressing the love that you have for one another and bringing extra liners, douche, and fungal cream won’t make them understand how beautiful their first time or second time will be.
I really feel sorry for the girls, especially Anna. Yes, Daddy is a Jeffery Epstein protégé. I am rooting for the Jill & Derrick more now. Bless her heart for having her eyes opened & getting professional help. There is hope!
JimBob actually kind of reminds me of David Berg from Children of God in many ways. Invert the political ideologies between the two, but hold onto the ideas regarding "being fruitful and multiplying", as well as the deification of the centralized male figure, and the similarities are obvious. The only difference is Berg did his dirty deeds on a much larger and grander scale.
A wedding night care package from your parents is bizarre. They are a bizarre and twisted family. It’s disturbing
OMG, if my Dad had even tried to give us a honeymoon prep talk I would have fainted with embarrassment & my husband would have told him to duck off!!!
In fact the only "advice " we were given was my Dad warning us to make sure we were up & at the Airport on time for our flight, to Tenerife the day after the wedding.
The advice my husband's Dad gave him was to not bother having kids, coz babies are very hard work & they cramp your style.
Funnily enough both my Mother & his Mother, separately, gave me the exact same advice......that a wife should always have some money, stashed away in secret, in case she ever "needed to run away".
That was it, no diagrams, no long shopping list of oils, potions, ointments, underwear etc etc
And, we had 5 kids in 7 years, without needing any instruction manuals or lessons from anyone!!! 😜😜
Sickening. It sounds like a clinical science experiment. You're in fear of checking off your list as you are probably going to be grilled when you return.
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All the pictures of JB and Michelle kissing has turned me off of front hugging forever.
Lol
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LOL
My BF doesn't understand why I've gone into side hugs for a bit
Just when I thought these people couldn’t get any creepier.
I agree 100% with you that if you love each other and are excited for each other than NONE of this is necessary. If it is necessary then it’s not the right time to do it. Respect the woman and know when her body says “no thanks maybe later” ugh sickening
This evil cult has none.
Exactly. If it doesn't just happen, there's no way your brand new virgin husband is going to fix it on a honeymoon!! In that case it is a MEDICAL CONDITION indicative of a pelvic pain disorder (1 in 3 women suffers from pelvic pain BTW), a muscle/connective tissue disease/condition, or history of SA.
I can 100% see Jim Bob being confused about a lesbian honeymoon: “but who’s gonna stretch them???” 🤮
If Jana ever decides to come out of the closet. 🤷🏼♀️
As a lesbian, this cracked me up!
Tabitha: I legit laughed out loud for a long time after I read your post.
He would probably be confused about two gay guys together too!
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I’d have been horrified to have my parents been this involved. My husband and I were in love and figured it out for ourselves and that was the way we wanted it.
The lidocaine thing is terrifying and so so sad. They don't even get to feel it. It creeps me out like FGM.
If you have to use lidocaine me you don’t have a serious medical condition, it’s seriously bordering on SA. (Also, the perfumed shower gel, “freshening bottle” and special perfume are going to make that pain so much worse. This is terrible.
Its gonna burn. Especially the scented sprays.
@@DANNYTHEFROG123 Yep.
@@rebeccasammon7423 Hell yes the pain will be much worse!!! These poor uneducated girls.
What is SA please?
yes all these things for his pleasure forget about your life as you will be live'n his until the day you die
You should not put essential oils down there, just asking for trouble
Ikr!!!! Or baby oil!!! Can burn
@@queenbutterfly4888 Baby oil doesn't just burn, it also breeds germs!💗
I couldn't imagine talking to my mother about that stuff, much less my father! It's so beyond creepy! No wonder Jana stays celibate for 31 years and counting, so she doesn't have to go through these embarrassing and disgusting talks! I think people on their honeymoon can pretty much figure it out for themselves! Or maybe give them a pamphlet or a book with info. It's pretty simplistic! And Katie Joy did you say butt sex? Because that's disgusting to talk to your kids about ever! For God's sake the girls are already scared enough wondering how bad it's going to hurt for the first time! And then you want to introduce them to one of the most painful things, and destroy their sex life on their honeymoon! You would think that anal sex would be against their religion, especially being as homophobic as they are, and since it doesn't lead to procreation! I Can imagine Josh Duggar salivating when they talked to him about all the ways that he gets to violate his wife! Eww Jim Bob is so creepy, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't tell the girls that he had to help prepare them for their husbands! I'm sure Josh will try to pull that Shit, and Anna will forgive him because that's what she's supposed to do! Or She'll make an excuse for him saying that he was just trying to be a good father!
Peppermint essential oil burns too. I can't even but that on my hand. Coconut oil down there makes infection 8 times more likely.
I’ll disagree. Haha. I fkn love my essential oil lube; it’s pretty incredible at how it enhances things. (But NOT the same as what’s mentioned in the video)
They make it seem so complicated, yet clueless young people have been figuring it out for thousands of years 😂
Josh didn’t need a book for his wedding night...he had already been doing some “exploration” on his own 😡.
You got that right, he's a creepy pervert.
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Sorry but you post made me laught, you hit it head on. TY
These 2 need to be sent to jail. Wife’s are not husbands property a women should have a choice about how many children she has. Plus the wedding night is sacred between a man and his wive.
I totally agree.
Nothing is sacred with this family!
I can't even think about talking about that with my parents. If anything, it sounds more like what a birthing class would tell you to bring when you go to the hospital to give birth.
Wow I can't imagine being given this list, it makes something so natural sound like a procedure, chore, duty not something to be enjoyed and spontaneous, specially for the girls. I feel so bad for them, they are treated like baby machines and not people with feelings and needs.
Well in they belive women 9nly exist for that reason only
I totally agree. If my mom and daddy gave me a list like this before my wedding. I would have NOT gotten married in the first place. My furst marriage was a mistake. 5 years later I remet my second husband and we were together from that day. July 8, 1984 until his passing on May 30, 2017. One of the GREATEST men I've EVER known besides my daddy. 💔 Miss you babe. 💔
@@lizheuserbevan6564 💜💜
I'm hesitant to wash my crotch with BBW Twisted Peppermint, I'll be damned if I'm putting a bottle of peppermint oil down there in a week. No ma'am.
Exactly!!!!!!
I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That sounds like a yeast infection waiting to happen.
Right. Ouch!! Crazy.
@@sackettfamily4685 ouchie. Imagine newly weds.
Hi Katie Joy! I was SO creeped out by hearing this! I think that you hit the nail on the head when you said that those instructions were for two people that did not even know each other, felt awkward around each other, weren’t in love, and were doing this out of obligation. I teared up when I thought of young woman going into a marriage like this! They must be so scared and anxious! ❤️🙏✌🏻
A man obviously wrote this list. Omg katie I love this source you have.
More than that, it just seems like advice from the 1940s or 50s... so antiquated.
Katie, you are so right about the Jeffrey Epstein thing. The more we learn about JB, the worse it is. I wonder why they still have people who admire them. Blow's my mind.
You are correct!
Out of all the really great Duggar content and as hard as this is to hear- I’m really glad you did this video. People need to stand up and advocate against this. I truly had no idea- based on the honeymoon shows, it always appeared to be a nice little trip and a hint of creepy. I just had no idea it got this bad.
I didn't even get to front hug on my wedding night. We were drunk off champagne and ate a ton of cake before passing out in our clothes! 😂 JB and M would have been so disappointed.
Husband and I weren't drunk just exhausted and wanting sleep more by that point in a series of very long days.
I have never been so mortified in my life for these girls.....as awkward as it is the first time you engage (wedding night, or just first time) this list and having your wife or girlfriends parents sit you down and tell you in explicit detail of how to do this just kills it, and makes it Sooooo much more awkward and weird.
This is seriously disturbing, especially the part about Lidocaine. I need to go hug my husband, now. He has never treated me like that!
Omg can you imagine being Jana (an over 30 year old woman) having to listen to him instruct her and her husband to be on how to get this job done. Heck no! No wonder she hasn’t married yet. A guy would really have to be worth it to ensure that conversation!
This may be why Jana isn’t married.
@@sharonwadwell2425 exactly what I was going to say
This is so awful, I can't even come up with a snarky comment.
Same here and snarky is usually easy for me.
I'm sure Josh loved when this discussion came up before he married Anna. I also have always thought Josh learned some of this from the father.
Yes!!!!
Wow. I thought the point of the wedding night was just a 2 person experience to show your love in the most intimate way and learn and grow. I did not know it was a whole group discussion. Guess i messed up..
Jim Bob saying "tidbits" 🤢 shouldn't be dirty but somehow it is.
Cringe and I haven’t watched video yet
EDIT: 😳just watched it-also please don’t put baby oil on or in your hooha
......this screams Handmaid’s Tale.....
That's exactly what I thought
Yesss!!!
It’s horrible
Praise be
Exactly, Handmaids Tale , for sure. That is one messed up bunch of people, 🌸💕
Anyone with me thinking Jim Bob enjoys this talk? He’s so creepy IMO!
It’s like Dexter is going on a honeymoon!! 🤣😂
😭😭😭My coffee just came out of my nose!😭😭😭
If creepy jim Bob could get away with being in the room when the front hugging happens he would be there to see if they're doing it right
After. Hearing this, I wouldn't be shocked to find out they have to watch the parents. Barf
Ewww!!!!
But unfortunately, I have to agree. He'd probably record it, too. Sick pos.
Watch Jessa's wedding when he criticizes their kiss and then proceeds to show them how it is done.
@@Nattaferg Wait, wtf?!
@@cyanide_lollipop3264 Yep! At one of the girls' wedding he made a comment after the couple kissed to the effect of "Looks like they figured out how to do it......" then he paused and said "Here, let me show you how it's done..."and then plants one on Michelle. It was real cringeworthy!
Are they trying to scare them out of doing it? This is so scary lol... The first thing they should do is rip up the list... I'm sure they can figure it out 🤦🏻♀️
Whoa, this is disturbing on many levels. How painful for these poor young women. I can't and don't even want to imagine.
I feel very badly for all these girls and i have to wonder about the boys as well..no wonder their son is so screwed up....imagine the messages he was getting from jim bob
.and we only know some of it imagine what we do not know....omg. I consider myself pretty open minded but this made me squeamish and uncomfortable. Thankyou for doing this.
Jim bob should be standing along side his son in court.
The apple never falls far from the tree.
Also I’m just now recalling how Abbie shared how she found out she was pregnant with Gracie...at an urgent care while being treated for a Uti 💀💀💀
Well, that makes sense
Isn’t Abbie a nurse?
@@connieb8167 She is--or at least--was.....
JD is one greasy looking dude. I am not surprised that she got a UTI.
She is a nurse. She should know better. A greater fool she would be to listen to these quacks given her medical training.
Oh my god. I could not imagine baby oil or peppermint essential oil going anywhere near my “area”.
Ugh I’m remembering how josh and Anna went to the beach for their honeymoon. Poor Anna I’m sooo upset for her... you know he assaulted her exactly like he was instructed with no negative regard for her pain and humiliation. This is so sad. So sad. So upsetting. Poor Anna I hope she can learn to understand what’s happened to her one day.
I'd like to be a fly on her parents' wall.
josh was addicted to p0rn so he probably disregarded all that info and acted out his fantasies on her...his way. barf
Seriously no sex talk until days before the wedding?????? I gave both of ours when they were in 6th grade.
I have an age appropriate version of the talk every single year after age 3
Exactly Chris. Sending your child into the world ignorant is poor parenting at its best.
3-4x A DAY!!??
Honestly surprised that they are even concerned about the woman's satisfaction before the man's so that's something...
I mean a few times a week is fine but 3-4× a DAY?????
Everybody needs a hobby!
Jim Bob reminds me of another Jim Jones the power he holds over his family is frightening.
I agree with you when you said “if they were in love it will come natural and you won’t need that dumb list”. That list does sound like it’s for strangers
This whole scenario sounds just terrible. What happened to your first time "Should" be Romantic! My Fiance and I were both V's. My Fiance set out a scene "right out of the movies", candles in a big circle in a field of wildflowers on a warm late spring night, blankets laid out under the stars, so very romantic. We felt like the only two people in the world. Maybe we were just very lucky that we had the Perfect First Time Together.
I can't imagine having a checklist of things I might be forgetting before blast off!! Yuck! All that sounds like a Root Canal Procedure I feel terrible for all parties involved in this mess. Poor Michelle I can imagine Jim Bob being an extremely selfish lover, even after all those kids.
I might actually be having a root canal on Monday & trust me, I would much rather do that, then have "the talk" with Jim Bob & Michele! Or get the list from them! This all sounds so disgusting & depraved. I just can't imagine any parent saying this kind of stuff!! They are beyond belief!!!
That's the way it should be. Something private and romantic between two people.
Is it just me or do they seem super concerned about how people smell 😂
Yeah I mean given all the stuff they use the woman clearly develop infections and I guess they have to cover the smell of that... the natural smell of a healthy one is sexy not gross..
Right? I think most of us can testify that we don’t use essential oils and perfumes on our business and our partners have no issue with how we smell. I mean, if you’re having “activities” 3-4 times a day to the point you’re continuing after she’s developed an infection of some sort, you deserve to stick your face right into whatever stinky mess awaits 💁♀️
Yeah, maybe Jimbob has a sensitive sense of smell !
@@Liv40873 1000% !!
Women especially. Massive body-shaming.
It's so sad that all the focus on the honeymoon is on this... what if they actually created fun memories together with an enjoyable destination vacation or something?? We did marriage counseling pre-wedding (from a licensed counselor- not from parents!) and it was all about strengthening communication, being clear about financial/life expectations and goals and learning about our personalities, families of origin etc. :p There is so much more to marriage...
But it is a cult and it is not about the man and women and self fulfillmemt and goals for the future it is only about the mission of the cult!
Omg... just imagining losing your virginity then getting used multiple times by a man for multiple days in a row. That makes my heart hurt I can’t imagine the pain the girls would go through.
that's why they pack lidocaine.
What I find hilarious is that when TLC films Duggar newlyweds on their exotic honeymoons, they bring along a lot more than one set of clothes and they are incredibly busy doing other activities. I guess once the camera crew packs up they can get down to the business of lidocaine, essential oils and pregnancy tests!
Also, Katie when you mentioned about the awkwardness about people who don't know each other, that is exactly what every Duggar is to their new spouse, strangers. So freaking sad.
This is so creepy. And an invasion of the bride and grooms privacy. Everyone figured it out with out mom and dads creepy suggestions. And take a pregnancy test in your honeymoon? Let’s don’t waste anytime now ? They are so weird!!!!!
Also with the pregnancy test you wouldn't even know for a few weeks…Idk how long their honeymoons are but damn that's weird to bring on a trip??
That's not how pregnancy tests work!!! And this was written by a Doctor?!
I'm sorry, but, if I were giving it up 3 or 4 times a day. The least you could do is spring for a decent meal!!!
That's what I'm saying
For real! Ramen???
Yes! Really.
Roflmao!!
😆😭😭😭😭 HAHAHAHAHAHA,
imagine being the cleaning staff that sees the creepy basket of honeymoon horror when they come to drop off fresh towels and make the bed . The lidocaine, baby oil, and essential oil "cover up" would probably make them want to call CSI . ( Especially after they see the sick figure diagrams Jim Bob most likely drew for them. lol)
You're assuming that the maid is allowed in. The guy probably answers the door takes the towels & that's it. If their doing it 4 times/ day no need to make the bed. 🤮🤣🤣
You are so funny.
Don't forget the Legos.
This comment is GOLD
Mom Duggar tells her girls are to be ready when her husband wants her no matter what time, so he doesn't wander, can't remember which 9ne but I watched that episode, and whatever he wants.
So disturbing and sad thing I've heard others say this same bad advice of never saying no, giving it up anytime he wants it, and anyway he wants it, and that if you didn't then he will cheat on you.....this is so disturbing, and heartbreaking....if your man loves you he won't cheat on you period let alone cheat on you because you didn't bend over and give it up every time he wanted it. This goes along the same sad advice of you better give it up when he wants it bec if you don't there's always another woman who will...well that may be true that doesn't negate the fact that your man should love you enough not to take those women up on their offer or advances, and instead wait until your ready and in the mood. With that said if the woman is never in the mood, never wants it like it's been a year since she wanted it for example then ether go to counseling to figure out why or talk and decide if maybe it's time to end the relationship...but you never cheat bec your partner isn't giving it up every time you want it, and if she never wants it you instead talk to her see why, there's a reason for everything, go to counseling if she wants, and after you've tried working it out if you feel you need to move on you be honest and tell her, then move out, be by yourself for a while, then start dating, and get with someone else, but you never get with a new woman while still sharing a house with your original woman.
I’ve read that today. I would be mortified if my parents talked about this. This list is CRAZY!!!
That’s just so warped!! They are even more creepy than I thought!
So they’re expecting a woman to just be in complete and utter pain because they haven’t done any of this junk and then are suddenly expected to do it 3 to 4 times a DAY!!!!!????? Jesus Christ! This is definitely setting a woman up to think SA is normal and okay. Sick. These people are so sick.
I know this movie is old, but I read this book early in our marriage..... after we were having struggles. I didn't hear about it from anyone. I was too embarrassed to tell anyone I was having issues, but this book actually helped us a lot. Now its been like 13 or 14 years ago, so I don't really know if there is anything weird in this book. I passed it to a family member who was in pain for a full year during front hugs to help them. There are a lot of issues around this that no one tells you about. I think knowing about them early on can be helpful. Some things like UTI's and going pee right after to help with UTI's is good advice. Some of the things about coconut oil is helpful to some people- I personally use it when I am breastfeeding because I tend to need it more during that time. I find it is unwise to get any antibiotics before you need them though, and I don't think you should self diagnose a bladder infection during the honeymoon. Its an easy test if you do get one. I also find some of the other stuff just weird and borderline not good for down below issues... not what I would do at least. The pregnancy test is weird... Either your on your honeymoon for 2 weeks or longer, which is the soonest after conceiving that you could take your pregnancy test at all..... at if you are on a 2 week honeymoon what the heck- you are going to need more than 3 outfits. That is crazy! I'm sorry, but we waited for our honeymoon, and we definitely did our fair share of front hugs during that time, but I mean after the first 2 days we were wanting to go see things and experience other things besides each others bodies buahahaha. I would have been extremely bored being stuck in a hotel room for 1-2 or however many weeks these things last for the Duggars. if its 1-2 weeks though why would you need a pregnancy test? Also I am sorry but the advice to put a pillow under you is to help get pregnant sooner. That is crazy.....if they are trusting in God for the number of children they are to have- why would they need to help God out? I think its more like a cult where they try to have as many children as possible. They aren't simply "trusting God" for their family size, they are putting having children as an idol that they seem to worship. This is really messed up. I have a large family and I love it, but there comes a point where you should be not trying to do things to get pregnant as soon as possible after. Like not nursing as long so their periods will resume quicker and such. This is all not medically healthy for the woman. This is reducing her to a baby making machine. Sad.
My memories of this book was also that it was not bad in and of itself. I think they just MADE it gross 🤮 by adding all that horrible advice! Ick
LOL! “Honeymoon Cystitis”, first timers’ blood stains, and a “Husband’s Pillow”.....nothing new to get freaked out about. 🤷♀️ For newbies, forget the bottle of baby oil and bring a bottle(s) of wine.
These people are so sick. I’m glad you are exposing them.
So strange ! And how long are these honeymoons that you need pregnancy tests on honeymoon?!? This family is so nuts and I agree I think Jimbob enjoys this .
This list is so strangely detailed and thought through.
That is crossing the line on so many levels. These people are crazy
Peeing before and after and having baby wipes for cleanup was the only solid advice. After my kids no longer being babies, I never stopped buying wipes because they’re so convenient for a number of things.
Yessss peeing after is essential for not getting a uti! Out of that entire ridiculous list this should have been on it as something to help
For both partners peeing after helps a lot. Baby wipes are a godsend