Biggest Struggles That IVE Had To Go Through
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wonyoung's hate was the most alarming case for her age😶
From 13-19 she’s been constantly a target of hate for 5 and a half years now
its so disturbing on how much hate she got last year specifically, it should be researched bc wtf?!
exactly
@@suejungggthat's why minors should not debut at early age
Then she should learn to behave. Many other idols have debuted young like Taemin, Jungkook, Boa and Eunchae and they have never received much hate as they are unproblematic. If Wonyoung wants hate to stop then she should learn to sing, dance and learn to behave.
How is that possible to hate this much a person you don’t even know 💀
i like wonyoung she's one of my favorite female idols but tbf you can say the same like how can you love someone you don't even know, gating someone is fine but talking about it is bad and cruel
@@roo4282 then ig respect her
@@roo4282good take
Murders?
Jealousy
Liz recently talking about Wonyoung on bubble:
"She should be happy. No matter what others say, being happy is the best."❤
Can oyu sent me video name of link pls
People hate on people because they’re jealous and trying to tear them down. This is my only conclusion as to why Wonyoung is the main member from IVE who always receives backlash for nothing. She’s gorgeous & talented and people are mad about it.
She also got hate for kicking a ball goodbye ☠️
Wonyoung should not have gotten hate for the strawberry and if you watched the ALICE video and saw what was actually happening you will know that the staff gifted the strawberries to ALICE and there are subtitles and you can hear the staff asking them to eat it cutely with both hands. Yeonje did not want to do it alone because she doesn’t like aegyo much and called Sohee over. Sohee likes to act cute and they did it together and it Was cute. Just how Wonyoung was cute. I can assure you and Dives that ALICE had no malicious intentions when their staff gave them strawberries.
I strive to be mentally strong as Wonyoung in this day and age with mental health crisis.
IVE is strong IMO. Imagine? Their company always gives fans the "bare minimum" but they're still there... striving. They are well-managed and NOT mistreated. But Starship definitely can do better to grow a dedicated fanbase for IVE. From every album designs to their variety shows and skills when performing. STARSHIP CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT, but they are always giving us the fking BARE MINIMUM! As a DIVE, I have always wanted to follow their yt contents and the only enjoyable for me is their recent which is when they played inside a huge amusement park! (Still upset about their company not giving a damn about those MANIPULATING CHARTS thing tho. If they won't address that, I will stop celebrating IVE's shocking wins from now on.)
Yess I watched a vid by Soft 4 taeng about this same thing like it’s crazy how their are no performance/dance practices of blue blood and Hypnosis which were like their top bsides and no dance also no release of their snippet in Ok Cupid teaser!!!! A lot more said in the video!!!
@@thriftskull5549 Thank you for telling me that there's a video about this! I am also upset that my fav songs (Mine, Hypnosis & Lips) are being left in the dark like that.
I agree with the company giving the bare minimum, especially when it comes to IVE. It's honestly shocking to me with the lack of creativity when it comes to albums and variety shows considering they do more than the bare minimum for their boygroup CRAVITY, who don't even bring in as much income as IVE. Those accusations have nothing directly to do with their actual company starship, it's obvious they won't address those manipulating charts accusations since every company gets them an example being hybe, the manipulating charts accusations don't even match up so that shouldn't stop you from celebrating their deserved wins. :)
Why should they address the ‘manipulated charts’ accusations when all of IVE’s wins are valid? Literally all companies get such accusations and with some sure, it’s suspicious when you add everything up, but with IVE all you have to do is compare the performance of their songs on all platforms to see how they all match up meaning their success is real. It’d be one thing for a company to allegedly ‘manipulated’ a chart but ALL of them? Including international ones? And the sales too? IVE is one of the few groups where everything from the sales, streams, views, etc is in perfect balance and has been since day 1. If Starship wanted to ‘manipulated’ charts they would have done it for all their groups but they haven’t because these accusations are groundless. So don’t be afraid to celebrate IVE’s REAL wins, people only want to hate on the girls because they can’t stand that a group from outside the big4 made it so ofc they call it false.
bare minimum? compare it to another group under starship first then
Man, I love IVE. They are in the top of the game. Their music and videos are amazing.
They're good
same their songs are so good ❤
yes, don’t let the haters change your perception of them, they are amazing
Yes they’re my ult 🎀💗
yessss they're one of my top 2 girl groups ❤❤
Also, fatshaming Liz is bullshit at its full scale. Even at her biggest, she is slim AF, and very much relatable idol. She deserves love, and nothing less
I love LIZ her voice and singing skills is so good plus her visuals is so cutee
It's insane how much hate Wonyoung receives for really normal things, and if we consider how young she is I can't imagine how hard it must be for her :( ALICE members really had no intention of mocking anyone, in the original video you can hear the staff asking them to eat the strawberries cutely with both hands and they always laugh when they do "aegyo". both groups are good, I hope they grow bigger and find only gentle fans that support the girls!
you are all acting like she has TIME to read comments online LOL haha
@@Dino-pk5hcWho said she doesn't?
@@LovelyKissess question, WHY would she care ??? when IVE is a TOP group and she is getting all these brands, etc .. etc ... ?
@@Dino-pk5hc Who knows. People for some dumb reason tend to search up themselves when they're famous
When idols apologize for something they're accused of, they mostly come across comments receiving hate, that's how they know they're hated
They can also just be doing a live and see these hate comments as well. And the love is mainly to interact with the fans which requires them to read comments
So, again, who said she doesn't?
@@LovelyKissess WY schedules is FULL, concerts, brand promotions, record MV's, etc .. etc ... she probably does not have weekend rest ! and you tell us that she have the time to check hate comments ? LOL
I’m happy IVE fans stayed with them till now.
You forget some issues. Wonyoung must also be blamed for Covid-19 and food high prices.
please edit out ALICE from the video. they weren’t hating on IVE and the controversy was proven to be fake and made up by someone on Twitter. one of the girls in the video had to turn off their instagram comments because they were receiving threats for months and even went on hiatus from the group. by pushing this narrative, you could be bringing those girls hate again. please be mindful of this.
Allkpop is not a credible source either because anyone can get on there and submit an article. Again please be mindful and delete their portion from the video. They have been receiving hate about this for months even though it was blown out of proportion. alice and ive are friends irl.
@@aaliyahsfor real. they arent mocking wony. they just doing what rabbits' way of eating plus doing an aegyo as their staff wanted. really annoying to see stans believing whatever these 'koreans' says. its easy to fool people coz thar content doesnt have eng subs
Yh this channels sucks they literally didn't clarify anything and added more lies.
Wonyoung is so powerful she broke the Produce series curse that hit Gugudan, Pristin, and Weki Meki.
I feel like most of the IZ*one ladies broke the curse.
@@Discarnick
wonyoung is from medium company ,this is more hard to broke ..wonyoung is one most successful center in all produce since she have big influence
Yes, until IVE it was ‘the produce curse’ but once IVE made their debut and they became succesful it became ‘the produce priviledge’ and only IVE gets talked about like that...
@@Discarnickthat's true but the phrase break the curse means she was the first one. She and yujin that is
@@via45 Then wouldn’t that be Eunbi since she debuted months before IVE to commercial and critical success?
No her bowing controversy was made up by international fans who knew nothing about respect culture in Korea
Love button for wonyoung💕💕💕💕
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No bigger bully in kpop than the fans
I didn't wanna bring any other names but Blackpink have been through this but look where are they now. You know you're big and getting bigger when people try to drag you down for absolutely stup!d reasons. GO IVE!
That's true, they have gone through this, especially Jennie truly sad how the cycle continues. Hopefully one day dives can grow strong enough to defend them.
agree 100%
bffr with the alice one
fans of ive try not to make everything about wonyoung challenge
"Dont make the child uncomfortable"
What if SHE was uncomfortable? I would be if some random stranger came up to me without me noticing just before they were about to touch me, her feelings matters too
I love how this Channel wants to act like it’s not one of the ones that pushed IVE and Wonyoung hate. The fact that they put in the bowing issue without clarifying anything says enough. Dive have done enough work to prove Wonyoung’s innocence.
AGREE TO THIS
5:24
If an unknown kid suddenly shows up out of nowhere and touches you, it's too normal for a person to get startled.
Wonyoung and Gaeul got hated for it...
This never made any sense. Even the kid's parents went online and bashed both of the girls.
Being a fan doesn't mean you own the IDOL or something.
wonyoung is so cute in person and for me i just wish her the best for all of them
You’ve seen her in person?? Is she as beautiful in real life as she is on screen?
@@alsoleve99Yes!❤
@@ashantythegreat3231 damn! I wonder what is like to be as beautiful and rich and famous as she is. Must be wonderful until it isn’t.
@@alsoleve99 Yes. She deserves it too but sometimes I feel bad for her. I wish her everything but happiness ❤🥰
Wonyoung has chubby cheeks and looks like a melting wax figure. Has more plastic then the Ocean.
kpop stans constantly assume the absolute worst about idols and are professionals at jumping hoops. i see.
I'm glad that wonyoung and other members did not bother bcz of mallacious comments if u keep bothering bcz of hate comments then u can do nothing I'm glad that wonyoung have strong mentality and keep growing without bothering any hate
let them hate IVE..LET THE AWARD COMES TO IVE
No matter what people say, she is still fav, my ult bias ❤
People always saying ive is Wonyoung &Friends but if that was really the case ive would've been in shambles like Weki Meki,Gugudan & Pristin ☠️
Lol people say that all the time but wonyoung lifts her group up. There's some groups where u don't know any member, so that saying is so stupid it's annoying.😂 Also put wonyoung in any group and she will still shine. Only I've can keep up with her.
Some haters are so crazy and would never leave the idol they hate alone untill he's kicked out of the group. Poor girl whatever she does is criticized .
I stanned ive because their music was too good and addictive (still) and with that you start to love the members and watch their videos, and then you see how good their are together, stop listening to evil edits on tiktok its very childish behaviour. All haters are jealous and have bad life
Imagine giving death threats to a girl you do not even know for eating a strawberry with two hands
The 2023 Brand of the Year Awards
Female Idol: IVE 🏆
Female Variety Idol: IVE’s An Yujin🏆
IVE fighting 📣❤
Stop Hating a Person You dont Even Fully Know
These people have to stop hating on idols who debut twice examples: Wonyoung (ofc), Sakura LESERAFIM, ect.
pretty girls stan ive
many people fall in love when a male grown idol does aegyo but when it’s a girl it’s a crime she is looking for attention
These people calling her cringe are the same ones who disrespect the whole of aegyo like it's not a cultural thing. Blatent racism that is.
IVE IS THE ONLY 4TH GEN GG THAT I LIKED ❤
IVE are killing it! 💕💜💘
I like ive a lot their songs are catchy why do people want them as punching bags
Because they’re rich, famous, pretty and young. Everything we ugly normal people want but can’t have. Yep, sounds about right.
@@alsoleve99 this is fr true, pretty people Stan IVE, while haters are ugly (sorry not sorry haters)
@@alsoleve99 also can't afford an iPhone RIP💀 atleast I'll but a cheap phone with great use and features, also looks like an iPhone
@@kim_ga-ram oh that’s ok. As long as your phone works that’s all that matters.
@@alsoleve99 Yep, I drop my old phone many times, because it keeps slipping on my hands, until the screen doesn't works, so my uncle brought me a new phone, and since I've been saving money, I could buy a new phone, although I'll still use my current phone, cause it has a lot of important stuffs, also the reason I'm buying a new phone because I really dislike my 32GB storage😭 also want to play Genshin sm, but I have slim chance to play it, because the PC I used to download to play Genshin eventually broke💀, the phone cost ₱7,999, which is really cheap for a phone with great features and a large storage, but even with my new phone, I won't stop using my current phone because my uncle brought it for me hehe
IVE is such an amazing group 🤩🤩 how in earth can you hate them 😭😥😖 they are literally angels!
I know right their are so talented ❤ I'm a kpop stand and as well a dive and I know they don't deserve hate
people are just jealous of how amazing they are
true ❤
It's sad how much hate those girls get people tend to forget that they have feelings too😥
i feel bad for wonyoung and IVE its amazing how much hate IVE gets hate just breeds more hate
Netizens Netizens Netizens
This video was supposed to talk about IVe, but i felt like wongtong is the only one existing in IVe 😂 then i realized she's the one who have most controversies...
I know for sure Wonyoung has a very kind heart and these people who are against her are just jealous they can't be as kind and pretty as her. I just want to say that IVE is doing really well and there is no need to worry about these people who are jealous of them.
alot of scandals is always wonyoung
1. She eated a strawberry and a pizza cutely: I mean i found that cute but seeing how netizen hates her for that makes my mood upside down.
2. for not bowing proprely: These netizen need to do some research of how koreans bow. I am korean though and i bow the same as wonyoung.
3. disrespecting a kid: She wasent actully disrespecting kid but she looks shocked which is completly normal. But again many people take too far on her for "Disrespectful"
(Idk how many scandals wonyoung has so please reply if theres any scandals she went through)
I just hope wonyoung well do well in the futere because this is soo messed up.
Non of these make sense
HOW alice dare to eat that strawberry with both hands
Sorry Ive. I like you now
I love my beautiful, best of friends, sincere, genuine and talented amazing girls, named IVE… the things they have gone through have honestly just strengthened their bond… as a stan of them since their pre-debut, I made the effort to continuously protect them from malicious toxic haters whose only objective is to bring down this precious group… the funny thing is that they arent even from the big 4 companies yet their light shines as bright and they ARE a popular group… please, as a fellow Dive, keep fighting for our girls, their welfare, their security, their wellbeing.. girl groups always have it rough and I’m not saying the grass is greener with boy group stans but I know some fans take things way too personally (… i.e, stays) but its always the girl groups that get the attention negatively… Dives, let’s cherish our wonderful 6 angels together and let’s create a beautiful space so our girls can talk to us and keep being the wonderful, hardworking and caring group/family/sisters that they are ❤ I love them so much .. IVE I-TING 🎊 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍
I love wonyoung she’s so beautiful and a great singer ppl are just jealous of her and always want to find a reason to hate on her 😊
I love both ive and straykids.
But bangchan was forced to apologize for nothing, and it still makes me sad that how toxic Fandom can literally do anything with idols.
He opened his mouth too much, his stupid fans attacked a group. Whether you want to admit or not he indirectly caused the hate. Any mature adult will apologize. But you're probably a child
@@Everythingz127this channel is just bringing it up again for money anyway, they just want everyone to react like this. they don’t actually care about the idols at all, and just want to provoke hate. it’s best if we all ask them to delete this video as it will be bad for both parties if this gets out of hand
@@homura_chan_ right! He's already getting so much hate over saying a basic thing which other idols have said as well but those idols opinions were accepted as they should be but when he says it , it's a big issue , I've seen people call him disgusting stuff for simply voicing his thoughts
The whole situation is just so sad , neither chan nor ive deserved all the hatred and blame , the blame goes to toxic stays for starting this and then dives protected ive as they should but maybe hating chan was their way of protecting? Anyways kpop industry has been so messed up lately
@@superstar-su7fgI'm pretty sure dives attacked first but even if they attacked first the idols still don't deserve hate,the both of them
@@ffx-icis.19 dives only attacked when toxic stays brought it up but it was wrong of both to hate so much on chan and ive
No one honestly deserved that all hatred ..
Anyways leave this issue behind now , that's what our idols would want us to do , not make a big fuss and let it die
the title says Ive struggles but 6+ mins are about Wonyoung. seems someones been low on views🌚
Love their songs
Negative news is the fuel for engagements (money money money)
ive 🔛🔝
She needs more & more attention!!!
This title should read “The Controversy of Wonyoung” because this video was not about it IVE lol but Wonyoung lol
Like bruh that mothers and other people are mad at wonyoung is superised that a RANDOM CHILD JUST TOUCHES HER IS MAD
The hate against IVE in 2022 was immense it's lessened now, but at the time it seemed like the whole kpop community was against them especially when the only adult at that time in the group was gaeul. Like they were getting hate for anything they did, for their groupchat simply being named IVE(like many other groups), or them not bowing(which were all edited clips or people walking behind them which they didn't notice), they were even getting hate for joking around with each other. I find it funny how everyone now is suddenly speaking up about it when I can assure you that almost half of them participated in that hate train. There's a lot more but the girls all went through a lot especially wonyoung who wrote a whole song about it in their album I'VE IVE(shine with me), in the song she talks about how hard things were for her and how the members being there for her helped her a lot anyways STAN IVE AND MAKE SURE TO TUNE INTO THEIR COMEBACK IN OCTOBER AND THEIR UPCOMING TOUR!!!!!!!
I'm not even gonna watch the video cuz I don't wanna give more attention to the stupid hate IVE gets. They're an amazing group and successful for a reason and I don't care to relive the hate that's been baselessly thrown at them
As much as Wonyoung doesn't deserve all the hate she got, I don't get why the video had to include Bang Chan in it making him seem like he was the villain he didn't name any names and dives still thought it was about IVE... So please don't put words into Bang Chans mouth
DIVES thought it was IVE because stays thought it was IVE. And they thought it was IVE because of what Chsm said. He didn't have to say any names. Him just talking about the situation was enough for stays to make assumptions
Yeah the creator does the same thing with ALICE. she includes them in the video even though they had nothing to do with wonyoung….
Stays thought it was about ive and then they started attacking them. That’s why dives fought back
IVE>>>>>>>> I LOVE THESE GIRLS!!! THEY'RE SUPER TALENTED AND HARDWORKING.
if wonyoung did rei's pose she would have been accused of copying rei 💀
Give them 7 years and they will break XD
That girl is literally is so young and accomplishing more in her life than we can hope for ourselves and she is doing it so while being humble. So what is y’all are so mad about? I bet there Al jealous because she is stunningly gorgeous
And after all this, they're just growing bigger as idols and as a group, breaking record after record, and succeeding even more! I love them! ❤
best punching bag 4gen girlgroup❤😍
People missed the point about Bangchan's comments. Fans shouldn't attack IVE or any other group but practice better manners and encourage younger generation to have better manners. His point was about the entire generation not a specific idol group.
EXACTLY 👏👏 the point that’s too often missed
Fr he wasn't targeting Ive but their fans got very defensive,I don't like how this channel defines stays as ridiculous just because Chan received hate for no reason,Chan didn't mention any names and since Ive fans were so offended by his claim they're basically saying that Ive has no manners
Geez not another one. It doesn't matter what he said, what he said brought harm to innocent idols so what he did was wrong no arguing there. This is the second time this happened to IVE because of this and the 3rd time his fans harassed people. End of story Chan and his fans are both wrong. Glad the issue is solved now, but his fans will forever harass the girls sadly.
@@ffx-icis.19are u stupid? DIVES were offended because STAYS attacked IVE. It's so dumb thinking dives are watching his live and started hating, u do realise he did this b4 and I've got harassed even tho they weren't at the event?. Because u are in Ur little bubble u didnt see (or just ignore) the hate I've got and still do on Thier insta. Please read his apology again because he was talking about you.
hey, can you also tell us what is going on with wakeone and what will happen to their artist ?
So much stuff like them not being friends
it's sad how IVE is the punching bag for a lot of kpop stans
its insane to hate that much someone you dont even know. at some point people were just wild jealuos
Wonyoung is really the centre of attention I mean most of the video is about her I find that interesting
She is naturally magnetic person,she didn't trying hard, she get less promoted in 2023 but get always the most viral in ive and 4gen.
Wonyoung need changed company or path,i know she will success every times
That's cause people hate on Wony the most
@@lavienrosewon8811 yeah and I think that ppl don’t realise that she is the most popular not necessarily favoured
is there anything about snsd and jessica. i wonder how they are now
I love IVE and Liz is absolutely adorable
Wonyoung is so sweet, and all that hate is ridiculous
This is absolute crap. Wonyoung is so young yet netizens continue to give her blacklash. And the fact that they give her so much hate on the smallest reasons. Lisa from BLACKPINK could do all these things that Wonyoung has done to get hate and Lisa would not get hatred. What the hell is wrong with people nowadays?
Wonyoung has been targeted ever since ives debut. it’s silly how they only hate on her because shes pretty and nice.
Must be tough physically and mentally when you are an idol. 😢 I wish them all the best.
and this is how a song named shine with me was born
Ik this is off subject but why is there le sserafim instead of ive at 0:11
Can't break IVE! Dive into IVE! 4th Gen Leader!!! 🥰
i dont know if people had notice but kpop is about attention! Sparkly outfits, make ups, extremly handsome/beautiful idols, fansights, fanmeeting, pc’s, variety shows, insta live, teasers etc it’s ALL about gaining attention! If acting cute makes her go viral the company will use that oppurtunity even if she gets hate for it they dont care cause at the end of the day people will remember her face and name
I have said it before and I am gonna say it again. Wonyoung is like Jennie of 4th gen. No matter what she is gonna do, people will find some way to hate her.
They are gonna over analyze every single action and my advise is simply to let it go and live your life to fullest. You are never gonna make them happy so do not compromise your happiness for these jealous people
None of these "struggle" were even close to breaking IVE apart. The title of this video is so over dramatic, a group is not going to disband just because a member wears a pink dress. If anything, this video should be titles "biggest struggles that almost broke wonyoung" because almost every "struggle" you listed was just wonyoung being attacked by internet bullies for stupid reasons.
Jeez, ppl are seriously blowing things out of proportions with Wonyoung... :
Wonyoung: **breathes*
Netizens: OMG SHES THE RUDEST IDOL OF ALL TIME
Wonyoung gets the most hate out of the former iz*one members for the dumbest reasons. But I'm glad she doesn't give a flying fuck over what the haters say.
Imagine hating on a 19 year old you never met 😂😂😂
Being cute or/and being pretty on camera is what idols do. Wonyoung was probably put on spotlight because shes the face and center of the groupe. She probably bring more money in because she got so many fashion deals (no hate). I can’t say anything about the bowing problem. It sure that when your around korean and in korea you should respect the culture. So bowing would be a intelligent thing to do. Some people really doesn’t like people being in their bubble. The kids should have touch wonyoung, its respect, but that boy is still a child so I just hope that he won’t do it again.
Bangchan and his fans literally worsened the hate
bro this much hate ...plz they dont deserve this much hate. i am really sorry to ive on behalf of my toxic side of fandom...If any toxic army is involved...i am really really biggest sorry of behalf of them to this wonderful beautiful girls.
i hate this hating culture in kpop fandoms especially biggest groups hate other small groups ..when this toxicity stop..i hope people respect every right way they are.
hmm the main issue in this is the not bowing, others are unnecessary
Yeah but she's young maybe in time she'll learn manners
@@ItzyVelvet24 I can tell you're not korean 🧍🏻♀️
@@oogaboogassare you
@@oogaboogassNot Korean? That's a fact. In reality non idol koreans who aren't seen on tv 24/7 don't bow 90° to eachother you bow 15° or 30° like wonyoung does which is respectful and polite you bow less if your close friends. 90° is often only used for Elders, CEOs, the president and government officials. Only international fans think Wonyoung is disrespectful koreans have stuck up for her many times
She's definitely can be cringe sometimes but thats most idols for you and also SHE WAS A KID literally so young, why are y'all hating on a child??
For me I think starship entertainment purposely target Wonyong to get more attention. Like so many things happened yet they didn't even bother to take actions against so much hate comments. I am not a fan i IVE or wonyong but still sometimes I think these hate comments doesn't make any sense
Every single time an IVE comeback is announced, the hoodie scandal resurfaces.
Poor girl, I bet breathing will be an issue for someone people just be so exhausting
I hate how ppl put two and two together about what bang Chan said. Like IVE wasn’t even there and they didn’t do anything wrong 😂😭