Haha, I just used one of those the other day for a temp fix on an AK plunger because I didn't want to order a $4 part from a company with a $25 minimum order, and $10 shipping. 🤣 Always gotta think outside the box working on guns! Good job!
@P4UL L4PU4 yeah lol, I've lost so many of those damn springs I've lost count... but ball point bics are available pretty much everywhere, they're steel... put a touch of good oil on them... they function like they should.
@AliasSLH yes, but the metallurgy isn't exactly crucial for that particular part. Like stated, it's steel. The extra length makes up for the smaller diameter material. It is a crucial part, but that spring isn't going to break or cause a catastrophic failure there. Like when I used mine I put it in for the front sight/muzzle brake plunger. Again a part that doesn't require the "perfect" spring, just one that works, is steel, and fits. I wouldn't go using them for an extractor, firing pin, trigger, return spring, or other more crucial parts of a weapon.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 oh believe me, I know. I have to source parts almost every day as part of my job. I'm just saying the SCAR might be an expensive gun for civilian owners, but there's plenty in the military. They don't just throw a weapon out when a firing pin breaks, so the parts ARE available, just apparently NOT to civilians, even gunsmiths! If you spend a couple grand on a weapon, you should should in the LEAST be able to get some springs and a firing pin for it w/o sacrificing your first born.
I keep an AR15 first aid kit. I have everything in there for my AR’s. Firing pins, recoil springs of different stiffness, different weight buffers, complete lower parts kits and upper parts kits, crush washers, and shims. Everything for them and the accessories I put on them. It’s a lot to have. Given a stripped lower and upper And I could easily build three rifles from the parts I have. I’m currently working on AR9 style and glock pistol first aid kids. I don’t have lots of different types of fire arms but the ones I have usually use interchangeable parts which helps.
That's a smart way to do things. Similar to having several guns that use the same caliber! I do the same thing. Even with HUNDREDS of "extra parts" drawers labeled, it's IMPOSSIBLE to stock everything for every gun. People come in our shop all the time and get miffed when we don't have the part for their specific weapon. Like a Gunsmith shop is an auto parts store for every car ever made.
When I was 18 and buying my first ar15 at a sportsman warehouse, the guy behind the counter recommended I pickup a small fishing box and getting a few extra parts, he rung me up for a lower parts kit, 12x10 fishing box and a windham ar15 for 750. Got a really bad malfunction where brass had actually damaged the gas tube and would cause the bolt to stick in the last 1/4in of travel. I popped open my little box, nabbed my spare mid length gas tube popped that bitch in once the gun cooled a bit and she’s good as new! Best advice I ever got.
There's no reason to do this for an AR. We're talking about SCARs, guns by FN or H+K, old Colt revolvers, SKSs to an extent, old Milsurp rifles, VEPRs, shit like that. Hell you can break every single part in your AR and have it it fixed before I find a single factory VEPR part
24:32 Thank you ! Part of the reason I settled on the Glock 19 (I have multiple guns and a few spare loose spare parts) for my "bad day" handgun was I kept looking at it and figured out this model was pretty easy to get most of the parts for. Realistically I can't afford to keep spare parts for everything, so I settled on three platforms (the AR15, the Glock 19, and the Ruger 10/22) I keep spares for, hoard magazines for, etc. I probably need to have more springs on hand. But I figure with what I have, I realistically have a lifetime supply of parts if I cannibalize.
One great thing about a 1911 is there are parts every where and companies like egw, Wilson, etc are constantly making new and different designs on said parts. Most need fitting but are literally EVERY WHERE
@@MPC_2117 He's exaggerating, but not by much. For example an MP5 bolt face alone will run you over $100 dollars. A complete MP5 bolt group is anywhere from $350 to $1,000 depending on its manufacturer and features. HK stuff in general is just pricey, HKparts is just a reflection of that.
@@almostontimehero5415 If you did a 360 you'd be facing the same way as you started. I think what you should be saying is 'I did a 180' then you would be in a position to walk away. 😊
19:00, Eric: "What if my firing pin was broken, and I needed a firing pin to make my SCAR run, and I couldn't get one?" Me: "Then you have a >$4,000 paper weight. >$12,000 of paper weights if the other two also fail. As cool as they are, this is why I don't own a SCAR."
I keep on hand 1 replacement pins and spring kit for every lower i have and 1 extra bcg per 2 rifles and a hand full of gas tubes. Also i keep any grips/stocks/handgaurds that i change out on any of my rifles.
Agreed on the CZ parts support. I lost a carrier plunger on a CZ 712 Target G2. After a quick email to CZ asking for just the specific plunger part, I received a fully assembled trigger group, which included the part I lost, after only 7-10 days - - at no charge. That customer service experience directly impacted my thought process when I was looking for a new mid-size 9mm. I now own a very nice CZ P10C (optics-ready, and made in Kansas City KS). Parts service (and client service) matters. Thank you Eric and Chad for bringing this up.
I tried to get spare parts for my tactical pen. However, customer service told me I would have to send it in because I wasn't tactically qualified to replace an ink cartridge.
@LeftHandOfLucifer5.56 minor things like extractor springs and gas rings are the weakness of any ar15. i just replaced the gas rings on CMMG mutant after 2500ish rounds which i thought was a bit premature.
Browning BuckMark buffers, recoil spring assemblies and a couple of firing pins…Ruger Blackhawk trigger transfer bars, cylinder stop bolts and springs and AR15 small parts kits (thankfully we have Brownell’s)…I stocked up quite few years when all were available and relatively inexpensive.
When it comes to Mossberg guns the plastic molding company I work for makes a lot of their small parts like recoil pads and pumps so some parts for them are very easy for me to come by.
The Kel-Tec PMR-30 has parts missing from the exploded diagram and parts that are not listed on the web site so they lack pricing for them and they have no way to order them.
It can be hard to get sig parts. I have a 226 with a cracked slide. That I got used , so no warranty. It's close to impossible to get a new slide for it.
Should sell an optional discounted kit with the gun (like warranty on a pc), with extra kits (or the first kit bought later) being full price. People like discounts, right?
I bought a 6.5 grendel upper from bear creek Arsenal and the extractor broke after 60 rounds! I didn’t know how to fix this myself at the time so I had to send it back to them and they had it for 2 months before I got it back! I couldn’t believe it. I emailed them several times but they were in no hurry. That or they had so many repairs that they couldn’t touch mine for a long time. My cousin bought a 7.62x39 upper from them and the firing pin wasn’t striking the primer hard enough so he had to have it repaired too. I won’t buy from them again
I lost the plunger spring on an m&p while changing the rear sight, they'd only replace it if I sent it to them. I'm not sending a pistol all across the country to replace a one cent spring. Also lost a safety spring for an AR, called 9 stores in my area and nobody had a replacement.
This is one problem with owning firearms in the UK is the lack of spares available for some firearms and guns seems some bring in firearms and guns to be sold without thinking what people will need in spares in the future.
I totally agree about the parts. Do you know a machinist who can make you a firing pin, even if you may not feel it's fully comparable it could atleast get you by.
There's at least one home machinist in almost every neighborhood. Most make so much noise that a new gun owner neighbor in need of help wouldn't have much trouble locating him.
Just finished my AR10 build. Everything was easy enough to find and order. Everything save a handguard longer than 15". You can find them though many are keymod or low profile when I needed high profile. I just couldn't get them shipped in. I'm just outside Chicago. Nearly blew a blood vessel looking for a handguard that I liked.
That's actually a good point. Perhaps buying spare parts and never running them for about 100 rounds is as foolish as buying a firearm and never taking it to the range, just assuming it'll work. Might be a good idea to have your parts kits contain only used parts. When my dad served in Vietnam, he told me they did "preventative maintenance" on just about everything, from guns to Jeeps to artillery and helicopters. They would replace parts early, and often keep the replaced parts as spares. Better to have an used spare than a faulty new replacement part with no spares. The one exception I know of were artillery barrels. They would destroy those after so many shots due to barrel wear, and destroying them means the enemy couldn't re-purpose the barrels into IEDs (though back then, IEDs were just lumped in with "booby traps," and not even a term).
Goattacular wow that was a better point. I was just wondering about faulty parts because it’s great to have a gun that doesn’t work? But your point was taken.
The dream is 3D-printing technology to the point that anyone can make metal parts for anything they own at home. This goes for both car guys and gun guys.
bought a Winchester XPR 300 win mag had a primer pop which damaged the bolt. Just wanted a new bolt, would have had it checked for proper clearance. They wouldn’t sell me a new bolt. Wanted me to buy a new rifle. It was just the bolt extractor but that was part of the bolt assembly.
@@camborambo5546 Absolutely, that was covered in the "etc." portion! 😁 We've got literally HUNDREDS of tools bought that come in handy, and at least a hundred tools we've made that come in even handier, that wouldn't have been possible w/o the machine shop stuff. TIG's are a godsend gunsmithing, but my partner can't run one because of his pacemaker/heart monitor he can't be near the electricity, so that's a bummer.
I definitely want to get into proper machining. You'd be surprised by what a "poor boi" can do with a dremel set, engraving tools, handmade wooden guides, and a very steady hand, though, lol.
Congrats, but most people don't have a machine shop. And since Eric's presentation was to inform new gun owners about the spare parts issue your comment is even more irrelevant, but instead of contributing info to new gun owners you chose to beat your chest instead.
The scar is an amazing gun I just wish the secondary support was better. PMM does great things. I wish you would do some accessories video for top 5 battle rifles.
I have an old French 1935s pistol and it was a pain to find just a firing pin, because the last one shot out when the safety was selected. I think the firing pin retaining pin broke (not sure, can't find a schematic for it), but as long as its always on fire it'll be fine
I love S&W, but my M&P's manual has NO guidelines on when and how to replace the extractor, ejector, firing pin assembly, or any springs except the recoil spring, etc. Essentially alll they show is how to lube it and provide no further instructions for further takedown for more in depth maintenance.
My experience with the Stoner pattern guns is that parts only need replacement when they break. Springs, ejectors, and that sort of crap need timely replacement on antiques like the 1911.
S&W says not to break any of their guns down beyond standard field cleaning breakdown. If it needs to be they strongly encourage you to take it to a gunsmith certified to work on S&W guns or contact S&W directly to have your gun fixed. I love S&W because of their great customer service and lifetime Warranty.
Carbon Xpress won't sell end user's strings and cables for their crossbows. You have to go to a repair shop and have the repair shop order from them. I bought some third party ones for it to have as a spare. Ridiculous though. I just wanted to have a spare set around just in case.
Walther did the same thing to me with my pk380. They wanted me to send my pistol in so they could replace the broken extractor... They refused to sell me one. So I found a Walther repair shop in Virginia. After a 3 min phone call i had one on order...
Luth-AR has basically no customer service. They sold me 2 stripped uppers through Primary Arms which were out of spec. They will talk to primary arms but they won't talk to me. I installed the same parts on a BCM upper and my build works flawlessly. Having "parts support" doesn't matter if a company doesn't even have "customer service" through which to implement that support.
"Rube Goldberg" part! 🤣 How many millennials will have to Google that after watching this?! I love it. I'm a gunsmith, and the ONLY 5* rated Gunsmith in Florida (as far as I know), and we even have to deal with some of these issues at times so I totally understand this video! You're right, I'm surprised this gripe took so long! Great video guys!
@Rick Christopher good for you! That's all fine and dandy as long as you know what your doing. Hey, if there's a need there, maybe you should fill it! That's why I started doing what I do. Other than enjoying it, all the shops in counties around me were closing, or sadly even literally dying off. We need more young, competent gunsmiths but some things you just can't teach, and others just come with years of experience. Keep Rube'in'! 👍😁
Ah, when you mentioned the problems with the Scar, I was thinking about the safety mechanism on the FNX45 tac 😅 oh well, guess I'll have to own that and some Glocks 🤷
Sounds like the problem I ran into with my Ruger P95DC, when the barrel link wore out. Barrel and guide rode, seem to be made if Unobtuainium. I ended up buying two of them, one an S, with safety, the other a DC, with damaged frames, and turning them.into part's.kits. I also found something out regarding older Rossi revelers, certain S&W revolver parts interchange with their Rossi clones. A S&W model 10 hammer, or the floating firing pin, on the Rossi hammer, which is prone to breaking, can be replaced with the S&W pin, if the same design, which has a better hear treat. Dound that out with the Rossi 941, I bought when I started working in armed security, back in 1998. Ingot the pistol dir $50, BECAUSE of how hard it was ri to get a replacement pin, from Rossi, at the time. Cap and ball revolvers, you can find parts replacement kits these days, but it was once a PITA to find things like trigger springs, and other small parts. Even Colt didn't carry most small parts, and CVA was hard to get in touch with. Don't even get Ms started on finding IJ and H&R revolver parts these days. Took a month find a place willing to sell more than 2 Safety Automatic hammer springs.
This is one of the reasons why I am wary of buying a BRN 180 upper. Where am I going to go if I need a replacement buffer pad, recoil springs, firing pins, retaining pins, ect.
@@chubbycatfish4573 yup. Just back in 2011 I was looking into my first rifle, AR or AK. Then, a WASR was $400 and a pre-built AR was nearly $700. I went AR and haven't looked back except I have an AR in 7.62x39
What is a cam pin? Haven’t heard that term before. I’ve owned owned guns and gone to the range sometimes for a couple years and consider myself a fairly new gun owner and don’t have a ton of experience and knowledge. Watching this video I’m thinking maybe you guys could do a video on suggested general maintenance on AR’s and pistols and some common shotguns. I know barrels for instance are good for so many rounds but beyond cleaning your firearm I haven’t heard of maintenance on your firearms.
I love cool and oddball guns but I've had my fill of unavailable repair parts. I hardly ever shoot my Sig556R because I cant get parts if something breaks. And Ive already had a firing pin break in it which took 6 months to get a replacement from Sig. Just one example. I tend to stick to ARs for regular shooting just for that reason.
There is nothing on my AR-15 that I would take to a gun smith. Anything on that gun can be easily replaced by the operator for a much cheaper price as long as you have the right tools.
The biggest problem I have about parts support is that for some reason almost all gun stores in the US don't ship abroad. I have a Ruger Mini14 and it's almost impossible to get parts shipped from the US to the Uk . Why is this? Even something as simple as gun sites aren't allowed to be shipped. The only importer we seem to have access to is Brownells and they don't have much in stock for the mini 14.
@Iraqveteran8888 thank you and Chad for one of the most valuable informational video I've seen in awhile. Detail is important and a updated parts video is needed. So much has changed with technology could you please advise on the new and improved.?
I have an old stevens semi auto 22lr and cant get a firing pin to save my life for it. the last time I tried they told me they don't sell parts to the public like that. So I have a nice long paper weight.
For my AR I'm extremely impressed with my Geissele Super Duty. It's an amazing rifle and worth $2,200!! My Springfield Saint Victor B5 is alright but it's certainly not in the same league as the Geissele. Plus the Geissele trigger is fantastic!!
This is why when I worked in retail firearm sales there were many firearms I could not in good conscience recommend a customer buy--for just the reasons discussed here. Parts of all kinds should be readily available to the average gun owner.Glocks, Colt pattern semi autos, S&W revolvers,, certain shotguns and a few other firearms are the only firearms I'd recommend.
I tried to order a new firing pin for a ruger lc9s, when I called they told me that I had to have it shipped to a licensed firearms dealer. When I pushed they mailed it right to me for free. It still doesn’t make any sense to me
Do you have any experiance with or do you have any opinion on building ARs with the V seven Extream Enviroment Gas Tube? Do you or dont you have a recomendation on it? Thanks
Pro Tip... bic push button ball point pen springs will also double as a buffer retainer pin spring.
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That's awesome 👌
Haha, I just used one of those the other day for a temp fix on an AK plunger because I didn't want to order a $4 part from a company with a $25 minimum order, and $10 shipping. 🤣 Always gotta think outside the box working on guns! Good job!
@P4UL L4PU4 yeah lol, I've lost so many of those damn springs I've lost count... but ball point bics are available pretty much everywhere, they're steel... put a touch of good oil on them... they function like they should.
@P4UL L4PU4 lol... thanks my dude!
@AliasSLH yes, but the metallurgy isn't exactly crucial for that particular part. Like stated, it's steel. The extra length makes up for the smaller diameter material. It is a crucial part, but that spring isn't going to break or cause a catastrophic failure there. Like when I used mine I put it in for the front sight/muzzle brake plunger. Again a part that doesn't require the "perfect" spring, just one that works, is steel, and fits. I wouldn't go using them for an extractor, firing pin, trigger, return spring, or other more crucial parts of a weapon.
"The AR is 10 to 20x more in use than the SCAR"...
More like 1000x
But the military uses thousands of them, so the parts SHOULD be available...you would think.
6'6150IQWhiteBear Not really. There are firearms that are more widespread than the SCAR that don’t have part readily available.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 oh believe me, I know. I have to source parts almost every day as part of my job. I'm just saying the SCAR might be an expensive gun for civilian owners, but there's plenty in the military. They don't just throw a weapon out when a firing pin breaks, so the parts ARE available, just apparently NOT to civilians, even gunsmiths! If you spend a couple grand on a weapon, you should should in the LEAST be able to get some springs and a firing pin for it w/o sacrificing your first born.
I keep an AR15 first aid kit. I have everything in there for my AR’s. Firing pins, recoil springs of different stiffness, different weight buffers, complete lower parts kits and upper parts kits, crush washers, and shims. Everything for them and the accessories I put on them. It’s a lot to have. Given a stripped lower and upper And I could easily build three rifles from the parts I have. I’m currently working on AR9 style and glock pistol first aid kids. I don’t have lots of different types of fire arms but the ones I have usually use interchangeable parts which helps.
That's a really good idea! 😀👍 I need to put one of those together for myself... 🤔
That's a smart way to do things. Similar to having several guns that use the same caliber! I do the same thing. Even with HUNDREDS of "extra parts" drawers labeled, it's IMPOSSIBLE to stock everything for every gun. People come in our shop all the time and get miffed when we don't have the part for their specific weapon. Like a Gunsmith shop is an auto parts store for every car ever made.
When I was 18 and buying my first ar15 at a sportsman warehouse, the guy behind the counter recommended I pickup a small fishing box and getting a few extra parts, he rung me up for a lower parts kit, 12x10 fishing box and a windham ar15 for 750.
Got a really bad malfunction where brass had actually damaged the gas tube and would cause the bolt to stick in the last 1/4in of travel. I popped open my little box, nabbed my spare mid length gas tube popped that bitch in once the gun cooled a bit and she’s good as new! Best advice I ever got.
I keep spare ARs
There's no reason to do this for an AR. We're talking about SCARs, guns by FN or H+K, old Colt revolvers, SKSs to an extent, old Milsurp rifles, VEPRs, shit like that. Hell you can break every single part in your AR and have it it fixed before I find a single factory VEPR part
Got it. Don't get a scar unless you can afford extra parts as expensive as whole guns.
I called Hi-Point and they sent me everything I asked for with no issue. Go figure a cheap gun and great customer service.
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24:32 Thank you ! Part of the reason I settled on the Glock 19 (I have multiple guns and a few spare loose spare parts) for my "bad day" handgun was I kept looking at it and figured out this model was pretty easy to get most of the parts for. Realistically I can't afford to keep spare parts for everything, so I settled on three platforms (the AR15, the Glock 19, and the Ruger 10/22) I keep spares for, hoard magazines for, etc. I probably need to have more springs on hand. But I figure with what I have, I realistically have a lifetime supply of parts if I cannibalize.
Eric has the best, most motivational, bada$$ , American, way to describe and explain something and have a reason for it
Palmetto state armory keeps pumping out in-house quality parts/kits & complete rifles/pistols friendly on the wallet🤘💪
Joe Blow: "Do you have any spare parts for the SCAR?"
FN: "No, but do you need any parts for a Mercedes?"
H+K is expensive
God is good!!!!!
Yes. Yes you do lol
Kinda glad i didnt trade my bren for one then 🤦♂️
One great thing about a 1911 is there are parts every where and companies like egw, Wilson, etc are constantly making new and different designs on said parts. Most need fitting but are literally EVERY WHERE
HK parts will run you the price of a new firearm just for a bolt.
They're expensive, but in my experience they don't carry much junk over there.
Yeah....no they won't.
@@MPC_2117 He's exaggerating, but not by much. For example an MP5 bolt face alone will run you over $100 dollars. A complete MP5 bolt group is anywhere from $350 to $1,000 depending on its manufacturer and features. HK stuff in general is just pricey, HKparts is just a reflection of that.
@@MPC_2117 $500 threaded barrels... for $400 guns. I did a 360 and walked away. Got a blue metal threaded barrel for a Glock for $170.
@@almostontimehero5415 If you did a 360 you'd be facing the same way as you started. I think what you should be saying is 'I did a 180' then you would be in a position to walk away. 😊
I'm taking a dump right now.
I'm thinking about building an outhouse out back so I can do a mag dump and a colon dump at the same time! 🤣🤣🤣
We all are.
I'm having failure to eject and multiple stuck casings...
At this point forward assist is useless
@@hyzaar99 Hahahaha! 🤣🤣🤣
seems to me like id rather not want to deal with having a Fn Scar, this has been a learning experience.
19:00,
Eric: "What if my firing pin was broken, and I needed a firing pin to make my SCAR run, and I couldn't get one?"
Me: "Then you have a >$4,000 paper weight. >$12,000 of paper weights if the other two also fail. As cool as they are, this is why I don't own a SCAR."
I've shot SCAR and I don't understand the excitement. They're cool but they're nothing special imo.
Yeah a FN SCAR is a way to go out in style when it breaks, not if but when it breaks
H&K are horrible on old parts. I have to make my own....
Try replacing the extractor on a 30 carbine, the Ruger mini 14/30 are similar
Oooof ya my thumbs hurt just remembering
I keep on hand 1 replacement pins and spring kit for every lower i have and 1 extra bcg per 2 rifles and a hand full of gas tubes. Also i keep any grips/stocks/handgaurds that i change out on any of my rifles.
Agreed on the CZ parts support. I lost a carrier plunger on a CZ 712 Target G2. After a quick email to CZ asking for just the specific plunger part, I received a fully assembled trigger group, which included the part I lost, after only 7-10 days - - at no charge. That customer service experience directly impacted my thought process when I was looking for a new mid-size 9mm. I now own a very nice CZ P10C (optics-ready, and made in Kansas City KS). Parts service (and client service) matters. Thank you Eric and Chad for bringing this up.
This is why I'm fond of BCM and Palmetto both
@AliasSLH explain?
@AliasSLH you implied the PSA and BCM can void
@AliasSLH man of few words
grumpybill well it’s true lol what else is there to say?
@@danvitty5442 I've not experienced a problem with either. Looking for an example
I tried to get spare parts for my tactical pen. However, customer service told me I would have to send it in because I wasn't tactically qualified to replace an ink cartridge.
But are you an Operator that operates operationally?
Is it a smoooooth operating pen?
That’s disconcerting.......😐
Chad needs to challenge Ian in a hair vs hair shooting match
Get Brandon Herrera in on this too! 😅
Gun Jesus vs Gun Orlando Bloom
Where's Chad in the video? I just see Eric and Liam Neeson wearing glasses.
Chad has a man-bun?
@@dbmail545 Ummmm. No. It's a woman's hair bun on a man.
Moral of this video: don't buy a SCAR.
Don't buy a gun that you cannot afford to maintain on the long run.
Or a Mercedes
Need Extra Parts Just Buy An Extra Gun, Has Every Part You Need. Just Tell The Wife Im Buying Extra Parts.
So it's better just to own firearms that have been thoroughly tested and available to civilians
@LeftHandOfLucifer5.56 minor things like extractor springs and gas rings are the weakness of any ar15. i just replaced the gas rings on CMMG mutant after 2500ish rounds which i thought was a bit premature.
The trick is to not let them know what car you have. They're almost always trying to take advantage of Mercedes owners
So basically, if you want to buy a SCAR, don't. 🤔😂
How about an AR 10?
Good thing I got the closest thing to an ar 15 in canada... an sks. There is lots of spare parts here in the great white north.
Browning BuckMark buffers, recoil spring assemblies and a couple of firing pins…Ruger Blackhawk trigger transfer bars, cylinder stop bolts and springs and AR15 small parts kits (thankfully we have Brownell’s)…I stocked up quite few years when all were available and relatively inexpensive.
I do agree with you guys. Having extra parts readily assessable to the consumer is a bonus. And should be a common thing
That forward smack of the bolt never occurred to me, thanks
When it comes to Mossberg guns the plastic molding company I work for makes a lot of their small parts like recoil pads and pumps so some parts for them are very easy for me to come by.
To be fair 99% of us aren’t in that situation though. Lol
The designers at CZ have a good sense of humor too
Yep! That's why we have HB industries though.
The Kel-Tec PMR-30 has parts missing from the exploded diagram and parts that are not listed on the web site so they lack pricing for them and they have no way to order them.
Needed a few parts for my old marlin 60. Found it cheaper to buy a new gun and pull the parts out of it.
Had an immediate eye roll and groan as soon as you said, "Parts support". The advent of the internet has made the task easier, but still....
Keep a spare gun to cannibalize
It can be hard to get sig parts. I have a 226 with a cracked slide. That I got used , so no warranty. It's close to impossible to get a new slide for it.
Should sell an optional discounted kit with the gun (like warranty on a pc), with extra kits (or the first kit bought later) being full price. People like discounts, right?
I bought a 6.5 grendel upper from bear creek Arsenal and the extractor broke after 60 rounds! I didn’t know how to fix this myself at the time so I had to send it back to them and they had it for 2 months before I got it back! I couldn’t believe it. I emailed them several times but they were in no hurry. That or they had so many repairs that they couldn’t touch mine for a long time. My cousin bought a 7.62x39 upper from them and the firing pin wasn’t striking the primer hard enough so he had to have it repaired too. I won’t buy from them again
I lost the plunger spring on an m&p while changing the rear sight, they'd only replace it if I sent it to them. I'm not sending a pistol all across the country to replace a one cent spring. Also lost a safety spring for an AR, called 9 stores in my area and nobody had a replacement.
Most of the AR parts on my new build, have taken some time to get ahold of during Corona. Still waiting for the trigger I want to be available
This is one problem with owning firearms in the UK is the lack of spares available for some firearms and guns seems some bring in firearms and guns to be sold without thinking what people will need in spares in the future.
Hey! Started listening to your pod cast, love you work absolutely amazing!
Low Key Operator Eric is wearing his Gitfiddle on his sleeve, rockin' the subdued Fender cap & Blind Willie's Hotlanta T.
Support... more companies need to read the definition of this word. Great video!
I totally agree about the parts. Do you know a machinist who can make you a firing pin, even if you may not feel it's fully comparable it could atleast get you by.
There's at least one home machinist in almost every neighborhood. Most make so much noise that a new gun owner neighbor in need of help wouldn't have much trouble locating him.
Just finished my AR10 build. Everything was easy enough to find and order. Everything save a handguard longer than 15". You can find them though many are keymod or low profile when I needed high profile. I just couldn't get them shipped in. I'm just outside Chicago. Nearly blew a blood vessel looking for a handguard that I liked.
What about faulty parts? When you get a second faulty part that prevents proper firing of the weapon.
That's actually a good point. Perhaps buying spare parts and never running them for about 100 rounds is as foolish as buying a firearm and never taking it to the range, just assuming it'll work. Might be a good idea to have your parts kits contain only used parts. When my dad served in Vietnam, he told me they did "preventative maintenance" on just about everything, from guns to Jeeps to artillery and helicopters. They would replace parts early, and often keep the replaced parts as spares. Better to have an used spare than a faulty new replacement part with no spares. The one exception I know of were artillery barrels. They would destroy those after so many shots due to barrel wear, and destroying them means the enemy couldn't re-purpose the barrels into IEDs (though back then, IEDs were just lumped in with "booby traps," and not even a term).
Goattacular wow that was a better point. I was just wondering about faulty parts because it’s great to have a gun that doesn’t work? But your point was taken.
The dream is 3D-printing technology to the point that anyone can make metal parts for anything they own at home. This goes for both car guys and gun guys.
3d printing is so interesting to me but boring also
bought a Winchester XPR 300 win mag had a primer pop which damaged the bolt. Just wanted a new bolt, would have had it checked for proper clearance. They wouldn’t sell me a new bolt. Wanted me to buy a new rifle. It was just the bolt extractor but that was part of the bolt assembly.
Being a machinist makes life easier
Having a lathe, mill, bench grinders, drill presses, etc. at our gunsmith shop is a Godsend!
6'6150IQWhiteBear
Don’t forget your TIG welder, they come in handy when gun smiting
@@camborambo5546 Absolutely, that was covered in the "etc." portion! 😁 We've got literally HUNDREDS of tools bought that come in handy, and at least a hundred tools we've made that come in even handier, that wouldn't have been possible w/o the machine shop stuff. TIG's are a godsend gunsmithing, but my partner can't run one because of his pacemaker/heart monitor he can't be near the electricity, so that's a bummer.
I definitely want to get into proper machining. You'd be surprised by what a "poor boi" can do with a dremel set, engraving tools, handmade wooden guides, and a very steady hand, though, lol.
Congrats, but most people don't have a machine shop. And since Eric's presentation was to inform new gun owners about the spare parts issue your comment is even more irrelevant, but instead of contributing info to new gun owners you chose to beat your chest instead.
I'm having a heck of a time getting the parts I want for my current build. The pandemic buying frenzy is killing me.
Chad is slowly turning into Eric! Bromance is a real thing...
Coil bind is the word Eric was looking for. That’s why scars break charging handles. The recoil spring coilbinds
Taurus is really bad about selling certain parts. I had a broken sear on a 605. Not available anywhere. Had to send it in to have them work on it.
So many reasons to avoid scars
The scar is an amazing gun I just wish the secondary support was better. PMM does great things. I wish you would do some accessories video for top 5 battle rifles.
I just buy extra rifles.
Agree with that line of thinking. Same brand, type... Instant parts kit.
As crazy as it sounds, I have done this. Just in case something breaks on one, I have them in the other. I don't do it with every gun, but a couple.
Sounds good to me and familiar.
How many cylinder heads have you 're-bored'? LMFAO.
Any chance you guys may end up doing a melt down on the Springfield Saint Victor 5.56?
I have an old French 1935s pistol and it was a pain to find just a firing pin, because the last one shot out when the safety was selected. I think the firing pin retaining pin broke (not sure, can't find a schematic for it), but as long as its always on fire it'll be fine
I love S&W, but my M&P's manual has NO guidelines on when and how to replace the extractor, ejector, firing pin assembly, or any springs except the recoil spring, etc. Essentially alll they show is how to lube it and provide no further instructions for further takedown for more in depth maintenance.
My experience with the Stoner pattern guns is that parts only need replacement when they break. Springs, ejectors, and that sort of crap need timely replacement on antiques like the 1911.
S&W says not to break any of their guns down beyond standard field cleaning breakdown. If it needs to be they strongly encourage you to take it to a gunsmith certified to work on S&W guns or contact S&W directly to have your gun fixed. I love S&W because of their great customer service and lifetime Warranty.
@@dbmail545 I was actually talking about my 2.0 pistol not an AR
Carbon Xpress won't sell end user's strings and cables for their crossbows. You have to go to a repair shop and have the repair shop order from them. I bought some third party ones for it to have as a spare. Ridiculous though. I just wanted to have a spare set around just in case.
Walther did the same thing to me with my pk380. They wanted me to send my pistol in so they could replace the broken extractor... They refused to sell me one. So I found a Walther repair shop in Virginia. After a 3 min phone call i had one on order...
@25:20 so if your trigger bar breaks and you wanna load the gun you will get an accidental discharge
Chad sporting a man bun now oh please.
Looks like a 'Twat' 😁
Thinks, I look like Samari. Actual, he looks like a soccer mom.
Lol looking like Jon snow.
Love y'all's videos!
Luth-AR has basically no customer service. They sold me 2 stripped uppers through Primary Arms which were out of spec. They will talk to primary arms but they won't talk to me. I installed the same parts on a BCM upper and my build works flawlessly. Having "parts support" doesn't matter if a company doesn't even have "customer service" through which to implement that support.
I would never own a SCAR.
If I came across one in the thin and thick of the wild.........id use it as a club. 🔨
Dude, i miss barry! That being said chad needed a haircut 6 mo. Ago!!!!
@LeftHandOfLucifer5.56 at what point did i say i was distressed?
Brian Davis
Your comment implies it, or at least bothered In the slightest.
"Rube Goldberg" part! 🤣 How many millennials will have to Google that after watching this?! I love it. I'm a gunsmith, and the ONLY 5* rated Gunsmith in Florida (as far as I know), and we even have to deal with some of these issues at times so I totally understand this video! You're right, I'm surprised this gripe took so long! Great video guys!
@Rick Christopher good for you! That's all fine and dandy as long as you know what your doing. Hey, if there's a need there, maybe you should fill it! That's why I started doing what I do. Other than enjoying it, all the shops in counties around me were closing, or sadly even literally dying off. We need more young, competent gunsmiths but some things you just can't teach, and others just come with years of experience. Keep Rube'in'! 👍😁
Ah, when you mentioned the problems with the Scar, I was thinking about the safety mechanism on the FNX45 tac 😅 oh well, guess I'll have to own that and some Glocks 🤷
every procedure involving an ar15 is a 10 level task.
I try to keep lower kits for my AR’s....3-4 at all times. Some extra bolt parts to....I should really get some AK kits.
The lack of user serviceability is the only gripe i have with fn.
Always support y’all from Texas ^^
Sounds like the problem I ran into with my Ruger P95DC, when the barrel link wore out. Barrel and guide rode, seem to be made if Unobtuainium. I ended up buying two of them, one an S, with safety, the other a DC, with damaged frames, and turning them.into part's.kits.
I also found something out regarding older Rossi revelers, certain S&W revolver parts interchange with their Rossi clones. A S&W model 10 hammer, or the floating firing pin, on the Rossi hammer, which is prone to breaking, can be replaced with the S&W pin, if the same design, which has a better hear treat. Dound that out with the Rossi 941, I bought when I started working in armed security, back in 1998. Ingot the pistol dir $50, BECAUSE of how hard it was ri to get a replacement pin, from Rossi, at the time.
Cap and ball revolvers, you can find parts replacement kits these days, but it was once a PITA to find things like trigger springs, and other small parts. Even Colt didn't carry most small parts, and CVA was hard to get in touch with.
Don't even get Ms started on finding IJ and H&R revolver parts these days. Took a month find a place willing to sell more than 2 Safety Automatic hammer springs.
Tell that to Quigley!
That’s why I got rid of my 509T because I broke a few parts and since the pro shop closed it’s Harder to get parts now
This is one of the reasons why I am wary of buying a BRN 180 upper. Where am I going to go if I need a replacement buffer pad, recoil springs, firing pins, retaining pins, ect.
So, if you ever win a SCAR in a giveaway, sell it and buy 3 AR's? Got it!
@Cody Sonnet cheap AR's are $450. Cheap AK's are $800
@@HopsAndLead I remember when it was the other way around back in 2004 or so. lol
@@chubbycatfish4573 yup. Just back in 2011 I was looking into my first rifle, AR or AK. Then, a WASR was $400 and a pre-built AR was nearly $700. I went AR and haven't looked back except I have an AR in 7.62x39
@Cody Sonnet 🤷🏻♂️
What is a cam pin? Haven’t heard that term before. I’ve owned owned guns and gone to the range sometimes for a couple years and consider myself a fairly new gun owner and don’t have a ton of experience and knowledge. Watching this video I’m thinking maybe you guys could do a video on suggested general maintenance on AR’s and pistols and some common shotguns. I know barrels for instance are good for so many rounds but beyond cleaning your firearm I haven’t heard of maintenance on your firearms.
May need to try and grab a few extra cam pins for my AR since I'm sure the Beowulf isn't really nice to them.
I love cool and oddball guns but I've had my fill of unavailable repair parts. I hardly ever shoot my Sig556R because I cant get parts if something breaks. And Ive already had a firing pin break in it which took 6 months to get a replacement from Sig. Just one example. I tend to stick to ARs for regular shooting just for that reason.
Talking about parts to keep on hand but what about tools to help change those parts?
There is nothing on my AR-15 that I would take to a gun smith. Anything on that gun can be easily replaced by the operator for a much cheaper price as long as you have the right tools.
The biggest problem I have about parts support is that for some reason almost all gun stores in the US don't ship abroad. I have a Ruger Mini14 and it's almost impossible to get parts shipped from the US to the Uk . Why is this? Even something as simple as gun sites aren't allowed to be shipped. The only importer we seem to have access to is Brownells and they don't have much in stock for the mini 14.
Just out of curiosity, are your videos monetized? If not, RUclips is BS
@Iraqveteran8888 thank you and Chad for one of the most valuable informational video I've seen in awhile. Detail is important and a updated parts video is needed. So much has changed with technology could you please advise on the new and improved.?
I have an old stevens semi auto 22lr and cant get a firing pin to save my life for it. the last time I tried they told me they don't sell parts to the public like that. So I have a nice long paper weight.
Would you rather have a scar 20 or a scar 17
For my AR I'm extremely impressed with my Geissele Super Duty. It's an amazing rifle and worth $2,200!! My Springfield Saint Victor B5 is alright but it's certainly not in the same league as the Geissele. Plus the Geissele trigger is fantastic!!
Midwest Gun Works for FN parts. Not the best prices but they usually got some parts
Where is your store located
SIG SIG SIG! Couldn’t even get a mag release for my DMR! 716G1 is proprietary.
This is why when I worked in retail firearm sales there were many firearms I could not in good conscience recommend a customer buy--for just the reasons discussed here. Parts of all kinds should be readily available to the average gun owner.Glocks, Colt pattern semi autos, S&W revolvers,, certain shotguns and a few other firearms are the only firearms I'd recommend.
I tried to order a new firing pin for a ruger lc9s, when I called they told me that I had to have it shipped to a licensed firearms dealer. When I pushed they mailed it right to me for free. It still doesn’t make any sense to me
thats why I like my cz scorpion parts are plentiful and alot of the parts are beefy as well
will AR15 parts kit work in a COLT m4
Yes
Midwest gun works. Com has the 16's firing pin is in stock and the 17s is out of
Do you have any experiance with or do you have any opinion on building ARs with the V seven Extream Enviroment Gas Tube? Do you or dont you have a recomendation on it? Thanks