Sonic Delta 40Mb - But does it work on Real Hardware?
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
- The FULL Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 3 & Knuckles in ONE package! But does it work on real hardware?
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This is the big one. A Sonic ROM hack which is 40Mb in size! While most emulators will happily comply with this irregular magnitude, will Sonic Delta 40Mb pass the ultimate test and function on the console it was designed for? Well, unfortunately, it's not that straight forward...
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - I need your full concentration
0:17 - Introduction
1:34 - Mega EverDrive PRO
2:17 - Sonic Delta 40Mb overview
7:49 - Mega EverDrive X7
10:28 - Mega EverDrive X5
11:01 - Mega EverDrive X3
11:39 - EverDrive MD V3
12:59 - Flashkit Cart MD (Incorrect, read description)
14:46 - Surprise Flash cart
16:40 - Does Sonic Delta work on Real Hardware?
16:46 - Explanation and conclusion
IGNORE the "Flashkit Cart MD" chapter of the video. When I bought the cart, I thought the cart was 8MB of size. Turns out it's only 4MB. No wonder why Sonic Delta and Super Street Fighter II didn't work! I deeply apologise for this mis-information. The rest of the chapters are still correct and accurate.
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DOWNLOADS:
Sonic Delta 40Mb download: www.neto-games.com.br/rom_hac...
Mega X-series modified OS: www.neto-games.com.br/rom_hac...
FLASH CARTS:
Krikzz's website: krikzz.com/
TerraOnion's website: terraonion.com/
SOURCES:
Going beyond 4MB: plutiedev.com/beyond-4mb
Mega EverDrive X7 changelist: krikzz.com/pub/support/mega-ev...
Mega EverDrive X3 list of features: krikzz.com/store/home/45-mega...
TerraOnion Forum - Sonic Delta Mapper fix: forums.terraonion.com/viewtop...
Mega EverDrive Pro changelog: krikzz.com/pub/support/mega-ev...
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18:05 - So, as promised, here's my pinned comment. This was last edited on the 14th June 2021:
- Sonic Delta version 0.64 has been released recently. However, this video still remains true.
- The Mega Everdrive X series has received an OS update (MEGAOS-V3.14). However, this video still remains true.
12:59 - IGNORE this chapter of the video. When I bought the cart, I thought the cart was 8MB of size. Turns out it's only 4MB. No wonder why Sonic Delta and Super Street Fighter II didn't work! I deeply apologise for this mis-information. The rest of the chapters are still correct and accurate.
As of October 2022, I'm no longer updating this thread. I did replay this game in SHC22 (check my streams) and still work as this video details.
Ok
Jebaited
@twisted logan same
Hope this gets resolved soon. Planning to buy an Everdrive to play stuff like this.
Okay, nice
"when I ensued into Sonic 2's region"
Sometimes I use words I don't understand because it makes me sound more photosynthesis
Is that a scott the woz reference or am I thinking of the wrong guy?
lol
LMAO
Damnit Goku focus!
what
Thanks for not mistaking Portuguese for Spanish.
Aleluia..
Kkkkkk! É mesmo eles sempre pensam que no Brasil fala espanhol!
@Stop You can confuse everyone can, but for your information the Portuguese language is not the same as Spanish.
@Stop 😅🤣🤣🤣
@Stop Right! Here in Brazil we write laughter as "hueheuhue", but we also write "kkkkkkkkk" as a form of laughter.
This rom hack always impressed me the fact that it combines all the classic games into one rom is just so cool.
Does that mean Sonic 3&K could’ve been fit together as 1 game?
@@megathepunnymenace Yeah It could. Sonic 3 Complete already Proves this.
@@hyperthethiccboi8698 or maybe it would be too much expensive to produce,we don't know what were the conditions back in the day
@@MazoEmboVA well that's just impossible mate besides i am fine with Sonic CD not being in this rom hack since I fucking hate Sonic CD anyways
@@hyperthethiccboi8698 I agree with this comment.
SOnIc.EXe pRofIlE?!¡?¿!?!¿
*when you realize this game has 2 death egg zones*
And 2 hidden palace zones.
And there are 2 sandopolis.
Sand hill and sandopolis.
@@sthgaming6451 sonic deltaTM
And 4 final bosses
Final zone sonic 1
Death egg robot sonic 2
Big arm sonic 3 alone
Doomsday zone sonic and knuckles
@@masterbeluga7379 well yeah, it’s obvious.
RHS has predicted the option screen in Sonic Delta since it got updated and the latest version actually uses it, and it even applies with the sonic 3 music selection and other stuff. Hell, even the blue spheres game got added in as a playable mini game. Heck, even the lift in Hidden Palace (Sonic 2) got sped up when RHS said, "could it be sped up a bit? Thanks". I love how the creator listened to what redhotsonic said and actually followed with his wishes like an option screen and the lift in hidden palace to be sped up. This hack really is legit!
It really is a great Sonic hack. I just wish there was a way to save the score along with the lives and continues on the data select screen as save-stating on an EverDrive is not possible because of this game's size. If Neto entered this in this year's Sonic hacking Contest he'd piss the pants off all the other contest hacks.
Finally had a chance to watch this. You're a technology wizard dude, it's super cool to see some of these workarounds.
OH my god its GARRULOUS 64
NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY
@@turnipaitor I know I’m late to this comment but he doesn’t have 100K Subs yet
yea
You arent real
The dev of this hack asked Krikzz to put extra mapper support specifically for it into Everdrive firmwares, and he complied - but only for ME-P firmware. Firmwares for X5 & X7 haven't had an update for a while - but they'll probably come, eventually.
Yeah about that…
@@SZF123456 They didn't come did they?
Special version of firmware for everdrive is available on nemo site already
@@joshuavera967 Neto had to do it himself. Every public release comes with a custom firmware, I think it’s just the last official firmware, but with detection for Delta
Update, latest update to the firmware supports Sonic Delta
I have to say that Sonic Delta is very, very long. It has 30+ zones, comprises of Sonic 1, 2 and 3&K zones, which include:
1 - Green Hill Zone
2 - Marble Zone
3 - Spring Yard Zone
4 - Labyrinth Zone
5 - Star Light Zone
6 - Scrap Brain Zone
7 - Final Zone
8 - Emerald Hill Zone
9 - Winter Hill Zone
10 - Wood Zone
11 - Sand Shower Zone
12 - Chemical Plant Zone
13 - Neo Green Hill Zone
14 - Casino Night Zone
15 - Hill Top Zone
16 - Dust Hill Zone
17 - Hidden Palace Zone
18 - Oil Ocean Zone
19 - Metropolis Zone
20 - Genocide City Zone
21 - Sky Chase Zone
22 - Wing Fortress Zone
23 - Death Egg Zone (Sonic 2)
24 - Angel Island Zone
25 - Hydrocity Zone
26 - Marble Garden Zone
27 - Carnival Night Zone
28 - Ice Cap Zone
29 - Launch Base Zone
30 - Mushroom Hill Zone
31 - Flying Battery Zone
32 - Sandopolis Zone
33 - Lava Reef Zone
34 - Hidden Palace Zone
35 - Sky Sanctuary Zone
36 - Death Egg Zone (Sonic & Knuckles)
37 - The Doomsday Zone
Yeah, 37 ZONES. What a long game this is. In total, it is 19 (Sonic 1) + 29 (Sonic 2) + 26 (Sonic 3&K) = 74 acts. Which is twice the number of zones in the whole collection.
I don't think it's fair to say that the game itself doesn't if the flashcart is the weak link.
The game, if officially produced, would use the necessary hardware to make it work.
I'm quite surprised that the Everdrive Pro Cartridge was the only one to have
surpass the others to Sonic Delta, now I've seen it all.
"Old But .. GOLD "... - Cheap but NEAT
You inspired me to play Sonic 3 Complete (on original hardware + CRT) - really well done. - I am playing with Knuckles & really forgot I was playing a hack. - just feels as it should.
Yeah Sonic 3 Complete is fantastic.
I have to look at the options for the custom rom builder though - I think the Sonic 1/2 invincibility music is WAY better - I find the S&K music so annoying I avoid getting those monitors. - I am really enjoying that the Knuckles path is more difficult - I wonder if anyone has hacked the Knuckes bosses into the sonic path. - I wish the whole game was more difficult. - I wish there were less monitors - shields should not make you invulnerable to projectiles -
@@brentgreeff1115 I personally like it more when a game's difficulty is balanced and not unfair or to easy. I think Sonic 3's difficulty is pretty well-balanced (with minor exceptions being Marble Garden and Sandopolis).
This seems like the ultimate version of Sonic 16 bit.
Too bad we didn't get the 8-bit levels remade in this engine as well.
Bridge Zone about to ruin this mans whole career
I genuinely didn’t even know a ROM hack community even existed for old school SEGA games. So this was a pretty cool video to find. Thanks! 👍
If you haven't looked into it since, I'd recommend it. There's a lot of really good SEGA hacks.
You're always on a roll when it comes to amusing intros (Millie switches off the device).
It's nice to see that the overall rom hack receives a lot of feedback and continuous updates to try and fix bugs, and more. I strongly agree with your points on the Sonic 2 portion of the game. Quality over Quantity. Just a shame that wasn't fully represented.
Unoptimised music for Sonic 2 plus 3 & Knuckles just doesn't feel right.
A lot of advanced tech solutions to fix those crashes just to load the rom as intended.
I can tell a huge amount of work and effort was put into this. Must have been frustrating, but is worth doing various tests to find the most optimal solution for the best experience.
8:54 - 9:08 Funnily enough I figured out the rom header trick just by pure memory of watching VadaPEGA trying the hack on his console a while ago. It was just one of those things that crept back up in my mind by the time I was trying out the 2020 Hacking Contest hacks on my console.
oh man, this is probably one of the most complex BDIWORH videos to date!
also, sonic delta 0.70 has come out recently, so here's the changelog as taken from the download page:
- Recoded both sound drivers enabling sharing of DAC samples, Songs and special effects;
- Fixed a DAC mapping issue that caused Launch Base 1 and 2 songs (final version) to play incorrectly;
- Fixed playing of some Sonic 1 songs;
- Added some 8-bit songs converted in "Sound Test", courtesy of Nineko;
- Added more sound options for Super Sonic and Invincibility in "Sonic 2 Delta" mode;
- Added Title Cards in the stages in Competition mode;
- Optimization of the text display routines in the options menu, removing the background scroll speed change effect depending on the selected text
Major changes in v0.77
1.new bosses in winter hill wood and cyber city
2.cutscene between Sonic 1-2
3.a LOT of bug fixes that.
4 a full options screen
Answers I could think of:
- 5:50 I think the game was trying to load the special stage screen, but all the graphics got corrupted, essentially crashing the game.
- 6:19 It was probably because the game tries to load Super Tails' palettes, but fail to do so due to probably missing/incorrect palette values.
I bought a Mega Drive flashcart of my own today
Can't wait to play ROM hacks in 50hz
8 bits in a byte, hence 40 megabits equals 5 megabytes m)
And to think sonic 3 complete was a technical impossibility back in 1994, now there’s this.
*welp..... there’s still got to be a catch, huh?*
Sonic 3 complete acually wasnt technical impossible to be honest.
It was just to expensive for Sega.
wasn't sonic 3 just split in 2 to meet a deadline? i don't think it's about technical issues
@@LYB4 Yes it was because of the Mcdonalds Marketing deal.
They tried actually for the japanese Version to release the two games as one Game. There is a prototype exsiting in that phase.
In the end the carts were to expensive for Sega thats why it was also in Japan released as two games.
@@paddy844 ah yes, Sonic 3: Limited Edition. I wonder if that was going to have a US release too if it got finished and had success
I tested it on my lowest-end EverDrive (a Chinese clone) and it worked fine. No header modification needed. It didn’t crash so far, but I didn’t get into the Sonic 3 levels yet.
Now if they could make a Delta Heroes hack...
Btw, I'm thinking the reason for the lag on PAL systems is that they're designed for 50Hz rather than the 60Hz we may be used to.
That differential is 8.3%. If the cartridge had the runtime chips feeding this to the genesis in parallel, it could double this number to 16.7% (in other words your 17% slower).
Signed, you're lovely engineering, programming, and reiki master cosplayer.
Imagine if they make an even bigger Sonic Delta which also includes Sonic CD. It would need a Sega CD, MegaSD or Mega EverDrive Pro because of the CD features.
It would basically be Sonic Origins’ Story Mode and Sonic Delta 40Mb combined with some additional levels and features.
It would also have a special 32X CD version that would take advantage of the 32X hardware for less slowdown.
Real visionary.
Mega *bits* are not the same as Mega *bytes.*
Nice video RHS!, i really enjoy this series, Good job :D
Just out of interest, it might be a good idea at some point to revisit this hack redhotsonic because Neto is still updating it as I speak, the current update stands at v0.69 and Neto's introduced a new similar options menu to Sonic 3 Complete with the choice to change Sonic 3's music to proto or final and or to go straight to the ''Blue Sphere'' game or to view the Sonic Delta Credits. It now has 50Hz optimised music for every game in the hack (especially Sonic 1) so he is slowly really making some neat progress with some major changes. I feel he may be getting closer now to actually finishing it. Neto is the most dedicated Sonic hacker i've ever seen having spent more than an entire decade on this one ROM hack.
The SRAM save thingy might even be fixed as I started playing it on the X7, turned it off, came back and the save window still showed Zone 1. Here's hoping this is fixed or gets fixed because save stating is still a no-go because the ROM still sits at 5 Megabytes - 40 megabits.
Never has the name ''Sonic Delta'' been more confusing for a Sonic hack during today's pandemic.
Level Select Code:
In Title Screen, input the sequence Up, Up, Down, Down, Up, Up, Up, Up, after hearing the ring chime, the "Sound Test" option will be available.
That's quite the mix of 3 games into one Big Rom! That's cool!
0:00 are you hacking my webcam?
I'm not surprised that the dedicated EPROM cartridge didn't work. Mappers are dedicated chips added to the board, so you need more specialized access techniques to make it work. The EverDrive series HAS to have a mapper because it can switch games on the fly without reprogramming. A board meant for reproduction (read: bootleg) cartridges won't spend the extra money unless it needs it.
Additionally, I would argue that the game doesn't work on your flash carts, not that it doesn't work on the Genesis/Mega Drive hardware. It's a game that needs custom hardware in the cartridge, just like so many SNES games.
I really love this video series!
It was pretty sad that most of the carts did not work without software modification or header adjustment. Although I'm happy I heard about the Flashkit Cart MD from the video, seems cool to be able to just flash a rom on there, especially great for those without SD cards.
Yeah. It's mainly made for keeping a single ROM on there for a long time. For example, if I buy another $9 cart, I can put Sonic 2 Recreation on it and then make a custom case for it and pretend it's a real game. Just doesn't have SRAM unfortunately.
@@redhotsonic Yeah, that's a pretty sad negative, but for what it's worth, it seems really cool.
Red i love you vids
Esrael Neto accepts suggestions on Facebook and is always fixing bugs and updating Sonic Delta, this is not a final version according to him. Several of the bugs from previous versions were what I reported to him and then he fixed.
5:20 Answer it's to make you suffer all over again 😂
This video is amazaing! Please keep it up!
8:20 the guy that made that is a "baiano"
we meme the word "baiano" for no real reason
kkk baianor
Neto's updated this hack now to version 0.61 (as I write this) and the music is now fully optimised for 50Hz, although I found a bug with Knuckles in only 5 minutes of playing it, it seems to crash after the 1up jingle is heard. Still can't save state because the ROM is 5 Megabytes - 40 Megabits SSF ROM type on the X7. I tried playing a save file and reseting EverDrive, if it's gone i'll know that the game still has no working SRAM or my battery back-up is fucked, not sure because some games it clearly works while others it clearly doesn't. Just thought I would update you redhotsonic since it's been 2 months since this video was made. It seems Neto is very slowly making progress and good luck to him.
amazing content,
friend
Cool impressive how this compiles all of the stuff from sonic one two three and knuckles in one awsome game
Amazing video keep it up!
Gracias por colocar subtitulos a otros idiomas y hacer que personas de otros paises disfruten del video ! ♡
Well Done Red
Krikzz: I'm not surprised that the Mega Everdrive X7, X5, X3 and the Flashkit Cart MD won't work with Sonic Delta.
Also Kirikzz: (what the heck is this sorcery with the EverDrive MD v3 and MegaSD)
Oh wow! I love it when your wife appears, she is such a good actor. Loved the intro and the other video's "Yeah! You've modded it! Start again and do it _right!"_
Sonic Delta 40 Mb has its own hardware ( www.neto-games.com.br/hardware/sonic_delta_40Mb_hardware.php ) and it works on real hardware. The issue with flash carts is because the developers does not followed the SEGA standards for games greater than 32Mb. Older emulators like Kega Fusion works without any patches.
Yeah, hence I made a pinned comment that I will change overtime. I did feel it wasn't exactly the game's fault, but as it uses mappers, a lot of easily grabbable carts can be picky with it. I'm trying to think from the average Joe's point-of-view who would grab the game, put it on a cart, and expect it to work. Once the X7 and co gets updates, I'll probably change the rating. As for your link, that's pretty interesting. Unfortunately, I do not have the technical skill to do something like that otherwise I so would have done that for the video! 😅 Still a good ROM hack though and had fun. I just feel the S2 portion needs cutting down a tad. Keep up the good work and I look forward to the next update! 😃
@@redhotsonic how much did you pay (or donated) for the ROM? because in the ending you compare this to commercial games as if it was the same context. so it seemed exactly that you was blaming the game. i think your analysis of the everdrives compatibility was nice, but the reasoning on the ending was ungrateful with all the work Neto does for this community. so many contributions made by him with generosity. and from the technical point of view he is improving the flashcards to follow better the SEGA standards.
@@marcosassis0 - I didn't donate anything as the ROM was released for free. I still have the right to criticise though. What I did do though is buy an X3, Mega Pro and a Mega SD solely for this game if that means anything. While it may appear to not exactly be the game's fault and it's more the flash carts to blame, I'm thinking from an average Joe's point of view. Not everyone has the technical know-how to build their own flash cart with mapper support. This game requires it. This game requires more than most ROMs do. Hence it's rating of partially. It goes over 4MB which makes it incompatible with a lot of carts so the game itself had an influence to it working or not-working on hardware. I think my rating is more than fair.
And I'm not dissing Neto's work at all and he knows it. In fact, there's a topic over at Sonic Retro where he and I and others helped each other and fixed a ton of issues for Sonic 2. I also discovered the code for the blue goo to fall on Eggmans head (CPZ boss) still being in the final game and Neto improved on it and found more. I have a huge amount of respect for Neto but that doesn't mean I'm going to kiss ass either. I'm hoping my comments actually help improve the game and not upset him.
And as about comparing to commercial games, well, duh. I can't say, "it won't load... But it's not a commercial game so let's fix it ourselves and say yes it works". It would defeat the purpose of this series as we could do that to ANY game that comes up No or Partially. For example, Sonic Adventure 64 does not work on real hardware. But you can hex edit the ROM and change a lot of code which will take you hours to get it to "run" extremely slowly. Does that mean I should change the rating to a yes? Well, no, because it's not our job to fix it. Neto may have done everything he can his side, but with its high requirement, it doesn't deserve special treatment or a pardon that any other game cannot get.
That's my view. I'm not biting back at you or anything, just explaining my side and how I see things. Of course, you're welcome to disagree. At the end of the day, the rating I give is my opinion and not a fact.
@@redhotsonic I understand your reasons. I still think the video could bring to us all this, especially the fact that there is a real hardware, a custom cartridge that runs on original hardware [and it's conforming to SEGA specs]. And that's novel and interesting for it's own, it's worth mention. My point is that "real hardware" is not only everdrives. Anyway I thank for the attention in replying and the courtesy in doing so.
Nice to see there's a workaround for it working on X5 now. I tried the bogstandard ROM a while back to no avail (as seen in the video).
TBH not in a real rush to play it though, I never liked the recreations of the "lost" stages in past Sonic 2 Delta/Long Version versions.
If the video is long, it means it works on a real hardware.
I just wish that Sonic 2 Long Version worked on real hardware. The way they did the extra levels, especially in Dust Hill/Sand Shower's case was perfect.
Nah just play ''Sonic The Lost Worlds'' honestly that's the best hack when it comes to the lost beta levels of Sonic 2, they actually play like they're finished and yes, it includes Hidden Palace, has 50Hz optimised audio, no crashes and even has a repro out of it for those that don't own an EverDrive.
I retract my previous comment because ''Sonic 2 Long Version'' is now fixed and bug free! The latest ROM update is from May 2005 version 2.0 it has different artwork in Wood Zone which is now called ''Lost Wood Zone'' if i'm reporting that it works then you know it works because I test everything on real hardware and i'm one of the communities biggest complainers and reporters of bugs.
So yeah, Sonic 2 Long Version, Sonic The Lost Worlds and Sonic 2 Anniversary by Sophiedude are all better than this mess of a hack.
can I just say I love that retro gaming room
Old super sonic theme in the background sounds very nice
I miss your channel so much😭
I haven't played this but honestly, with it still being 0.58, technically beta, for it to work that well, it's pretty impressive
Neto is great! His work goes well beyond this rom hack. He has some excellent works on hardware as well. You should check it out.
this rom hack is really damn cool, it's super impressive that they were able to get this to function at all. I just really wish it was vanilla Sonic 2 and not the delta version.
Thanks for the heads up on Mapper 15 for MegaSD. Since it doesn't save, I'm using save states along the way.
Great video! There is one problem I have with that assessment though; if the issue has to do with the having the right cartridge (rather than an issue with the ROM itself), then wouldn't the game theoretically release with the necessary one if released commercially like any other game at the Genesis'/Mega Drive's heyday? (Although I'm not sure if developer customized cartridges were a thing?). Either way great content, as usual!
I was thinking this too, but the only other game I know that has mappers is Super Street Fighter II and that was made to work on all hardware. With this game, you get the ROM and that's it. The average Joe would buy a flash cart and expect it to work, and that's how the rating works. But I wanted to be fair and give as many options available to fix it ourselves.
@@redhotsonic Fair enough, it does make sense when the rating system applies to that logic then. Looking forward to the next one!
@@redhotsonic Yeah My Dad Downloaded That Rom Hack. -Trent Lipisko
The moment when background music is big arms just gets me
6:00 BTW why this crash is in Potuguese? Maybe this hack is made in Brazil?
Yeah the Creator's native language is Portuguese.
Awesome Video
These videos are awesome.
ive replayed this video 3 times at different days and times
now it's 4 :)
17:33, welcome to Bethesda games based on the Gamebryo Engine. :3
The menu is the prototype but with few changes like tails and sonic having a animation because the proto version doesnt have animations but it has the player select its amazing
This rom hack is awesome. One question though, how do I get the prototyoe checkpoints? Is it exclusive to a certain version?
8:20 if i'm not mistaken for some reason the entry register #0 of the mapper is disabled, this entry is the one that handles the comunication between the rom and the sram and for some strange reason it cannot be enabled. Maybe it has something to do with the sega mapper you mentioned earlier in the video but i wouldn't know since i don't know how that works
Ah Sonic 2 Delta. The ultimate quantity over quality hack. Never understood the appeal of this, the new levels are half-baked empty levels with nothing happening in them, there are a ton of glitches ranging from graphical glitches to gameplay affecting glitches. Sure there's a lot of levels, but the new ones play like garbage and the original ones play better in their actual respective games
Honestly Hidden Palace is the only new zone that actually feels finished in this hack the others are just straight up shit.
@@secoTheSonicFan There are plenty of rom hacks with great levels such as Sonic: The Next Level, Sonic Megamix, and more. It isn't even the fact that it's bad level design; S Factor is bad level design. Delta practically has *No* level design. Big empty mazes with next to no enemies does not make for quality levels and only being a rom hacker isn't an excuse for not putting in minimal effort.
You should consider doing Genesis/MD mini tests, but then again they will most likely play. I have added Sonic 3 Complete and Sonic 2 Anniversary on to it.
11:50 just total confusion.
Can agree (after watching basically the entire thing 100 Times)
8:20 I'm actually Brazilian (we speak Portuguese!) And it says:
It won't be possible save the progress of the game in these conditions
Get in contact with the maker of the device and request the support to the SEGA Mapper with SRAM via register #0
Technical information:
The register #0 of the mapper needs to be used to alter between the ROM/RAM after the $200000 address, responding to the following commands:
move, b #1 ($A130F1) : Activate SRAM
move, b #1 ($A130F1) : Deactivate SRAM
Press START
To continue without the progress saving support.
Hope I helped :)
Thank you for predicting sonic originals😊
Except Sonic Delta didn't cover Sonic CD.
8:21 Actually, the text doesn't say nothing about that if the game will play. It just says that saves will surely not be supported if you continue, but it never guaranteed that the game would actually boot after that.
In fairness to red, he said he wasn't fluent in Portugese.
@redhotsonic Did you ask Neto? There was a picture of the hack working on real hardware. Maybe ask what system they used?
11:09 i think they people knew it was you so they delivered it red
0:00 You're finally awake...
I recall some RUclipsr a while back mentioning that the pal regions of the Sega Genesis and Nintendo were nerfed for some power regulation reason.
Ahh yes Sonic 1,2 and 3 combined into one game. It's a impressive rom hack but it can be improved.
So, the slowdown on the PAL system... Isn't that just the 50 FPS vs 60 FPS thing cropping up? Or is this a modded system for 60 FPS output?
and i can confirm red hot sonic what you are telling us bc i tryed
Using the proto layouts never made any sense to me, they got replaced for a reason! I mean in places they were better and had less inaccessible rings, but they are much less polished.
I'm leaving this comment before I finish the video just to post my guess -- if this ROM hack uses bank switching properly, my guess is that it should work. A ton of NES games were larger than the NES' 6502 could address and thus used bank switching to get around this issue. I'm guessing the 68k in the Genesis can do the same.
The reason the Audio etc seemed 'sluggish' on the PAL console, is because it runs at a slower rate, due to the 50Hz Electric here in the UK, vs the 60Hz in the US... the Mastersystem was the same....
Sonic Delta has come a LONG way. now it has a proper options screen , cutscenes between games , Sonic 1 and 2 using hidden big rings just like Sonic 3 etc etc
i just hate the fact that its LONG
3:15 there is a reason for no cut scene there in sonic classic heroes there was an error that needed fixing when going to sonic 2 that's why they took it out so you won't have that error anymore
I'm not I'm not surprised you chose red
Actually, the title of the game is referring to megaBITS, not megaBYTES. The game is 40 megabits in total, which is equivalent to 5 megabytes. (The difference is that megabytes has both letters capital and megabits have only the m capitalized.
0:35
Oh uh, regarding 4:13 to 4:19, newer versions of the hack did replace the repeated boss fights in the restored S2 proto zones with new battles. Sand Shower is still a repeat of the Emerald Hill boss, however
A couple of questions:
1) Does the game run on a Mega SG via the Mega Everdrive Pro?
2) Can you become Super Sonic in Sonic 1?
I don't know about 1 but about 2 yes you can become Super in Sonic 1 if you collect all 7 Chaos Emeralds (and you can even become Hyper in 1 AND 2 after you get all Super Emeralds)
@@HruMan360 I'm talking about the rom hack. Of course you can become Super Sonic in Sonic 2. That's a given.
@@pferreira1983 I AM talking about the hack.
Basically yes, you can become Super in the hack if you have all 7 Chaos Emeralds (and even HYPER after you collect all the Super Emeralds in the S3K levels)
@@HruMan360 Yes but I was talking about becoming Super Sonic in the Sonic 1 sections.
The amount of dirty jokes I can count is crazy
I'm looking at the stuff here, and I'm hoping I can use it to find a way to make the Ultimate Mortal Kombat Trilogy mod work using an Everdrive X3.
HELLO REDHOTSONIC!
Na minha opinião Sonic Delta deveria ter a trilogia clássica intacta apenas com animações entre um jogo e outro,ter uma tela de título melhor e opções deixando o jogador ajustar conforme seu gosto,muitos falam de Sonic Delta mas na minha opinião infelizmente não vale a pena,sim foi um belo esforço mas é notável os problemas e acredito que poderia facilmente ser corrigidos. Parabéns ótimo vídeo
I'm late to the party as usual but just wanna say what a great video you have put together and respect the amount of work that has been put into editing this and congratulations on owning all flash carts, I agree with all the points you mentioned in the video, from my personal discovery with this fascinating ROM hack is that the problems it has with loading and saving is down to Neto's actual ROM hack that still has lots of bugs to iron out before a complete finished version comes. Super Street Fighter II uses it's SSF ROM type with no issues so it's not the ROM type, the hack unfortunately can't save state on the Mega EverDrive X7 and that's simply down to the fact that the ROM is TOO BIG. Anything over 4 Megabytes can't save state and is not considered a SEGA -16 ROM type so that means I won't be able to play this ROM hack anytime soon, I can't leave the power on for a month straight, I go to work 5 days a week, do house work on weekends, go grocery shopping and have a wife and child who need attention so sitting through this game in one sitting just isn't feasible for me. My X7 doesn't save the battery back up either but I don't blame Neto for that one, I think my battery is dead. To be honest, it's a great idea to have all the classic titles in one complete game and Neto should go down in history as the first to implement this idea, but let's not kid ourselves, this game DOES NOT WORK ON REAL HARDWARE AT ALL, once a crash is recorded, it's ruined! It doesn't matter if it still records the emeralds you picked up or whatever, the fact that the game has to be interrupted just to return to the data select screen to get to where you were means it's far from a finished product and that it doesn't work as intended.
I also have to agree with Nikash Gill, the ROM hack is not optimised in audio for 50Hz for the entire game and that really bugs me and sounds weird. Only Sonic 1 should have this or go the complete route and optimise the entire thing, so it's far from an ideal finished version, even though Neto's gone through how many revisions now? 50, 60 and still no signs of a complete overhaul to the bugs and loading/saving issues that this ROM has and you're right, it should be working right out of the box but we also have to remember that it's a free game that wasn't paid for and when something is free it's not always expected to work 100% right out of the box.
For now it's still probably best to play these games seperately or try Natsumi's 4 in 1 that includes Sonic 1 to Knuckles aswell as the complete ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' and ''Knuckles In Sonic 2'' and even ''Blue Sphere'' added in it and that ROM sits at 6 megabytes large and works like a charm right out of the box!
Thanks for the kind comments. I kind of went a bit overboard with buying carts but at least I'm prepped for future episodes. And now a Black Friday sale is on... typical!
To say a single crash means it doesn't work on real hardware is harsh. If we went by that statement, then the original Sonic 1, Sonic 2 and Sonic 3&K also do not work as there's crashes in them 😛
@@redhotsonic I thought the Black Friday thing was only over here in Australia but it must be everywhere around the world (my stupid) and yeah well at least you got the complete package now, every EverDrive available and every model Mega Drive/Genesis so congratulations! You're now my guru when it comes to Sonic and the Mega Drive.
No game is perfect and I accept that but Sonic 1, Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles don't crash in the same manner as Neto's hack and they can be avoided in the original games so they don't count, you have to go out of your way to make them crash almost where as Neto's hack it happens where you can't avoid it, big difference my friend, in Sonic 2 it would sometimes crash when killing Rexon in Hill Top Zone but that can easily be avoided if you knew about it and that didn't happen often and in Sonic 3 Sonic only crashed when doing debug mode and travelled to an area of the maps where Knuckles would have to go through with Sonic or Tails. Basically what i'm saying is if a crash is unavoidable and hinders gameplay then it should be classified as ''it doesn't work'' yet if the crash can be avoided by going another route in a level or not jumping on Rexon in Hill Top Zone then it's okay as it's not hindering gameplay, that's how I rank them but of course I respect your opinion and your findings and it's your video.
about the saving in Flashkit MD... There are two models of Flashkit, one with save chip and one without
the with save chip is few dolars more expensive, but its worth it...
8:20 basically it's saying that you can play without saving, meaning if you end up on a level or stop playing you won't be able to continue your progress.
I actually tested it on the megadrive mini running project lunar the original default emulator does not like that rom hack i had to use retroarch to get it to work.
Based on q video about sonic 2, they had a scrapped time travel mechanic explaining the repeat sections, since they had to put something thrre and probably didnt want to make something new to fill the gaps.
Hey RHS,
Considering the Sonic 1 Beta has been leaked by the Hidden Palace, is it possible you could do a DIWORH episode on the Sonic 1 Beta?
This rom would be so much better if they didn't try to throw all the prototype stuff in. Like the ugly checkpoints and unfinished levels.