Trolleybuses (Trackless Trolley) in Seattle, Washington, United States 2021

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • The Seattle trolleybus system forms part of the public transportation network in the city of Seattle, Washington, operated by King County Metro. Originally opened on April 28, 1940, the network consists of 15 routes, with 174 trolleybuses operating on 68 miles (109 km) of two-way overhead wires. As of spring 2016, the system carries riders on an average of 73,200 trips per weekday, comprising about 18 percent of King County Metro’s total daily ridership. At present in Seattle, a very common alternative term for trolleybus is trolley.
    Of the five trolleybus systems currently operating in the U.S., the Seattle system is the second largest (by ridership and fleet size), after the San Francisco system. ~Wikipedia
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  • @scottyerkes1867
    @scottyerkes1867 3 года назад +16

    Thank you Tim for sharing this video.
    Philadelphia(my hometown) has 3 trackless trolley routes using the same vehicle as Seattle.

    • @atemk42
      @atemk42 Год назад

      they dont have articulated trolleybuses

    • @evanstonbalce9588
      @evanstonbalce9588 Год назад

      San Francisco has 15 trolleybus routes, four of them use articulated ones

  • @jobebrian
    @jobebrian 3 года назад +10

    Hey, thanks for the props! I’ve been driving trolley buses in Seattle since 2008, and they are a blast! Like San Francisco, Seattle has some fairly steep hills, and the electric motors in the trollies work significantly better on these steeper grades than diesel engines.
    The reason has to do with torque being produced by electromagnetism rather than the internal combustion processes (pistons, crankshaft, etc.)-basically, you’d need to get a good running start in a diesel to achieve the same amount of force at the beginning of a climb. With the trollies, you have maximum torque at 0 rpms, which is helpful when starting at the bottom of a hill.
    I say this because it isn’t really about “green energy” ... as said somewhere above, the trollies have been in use since the early 20th century, and it’s because of their *power* efficiency rather than *fuel* efficiency.

    • @DerekMckean
      @DerekMckean 3 года назад

      I wish North Seattle had more trollies as it doesn't have tgat many compared to capitol Hill and downtown.
      The 44 -- ballard to U district-- used to be a trolley line with most coaches. However, come to think of it, I haven't seen a trolley being used for the 44 during the pandemic at all. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention. But most coaches I've seen for the 44 hace been standard articulated busses.

    • @eddie9559
      @eddie9559 2 года назад +2

      Are the electric motors very loud?

    • @jarjarbinks6018
      @jarjarbinks6018 2 года назад +4

      @@eddie9559 When they pass by me they seem to sound just as if not maybe a bit quieter than the diesel buses. I think the sound of the bus wheels moving drowns out any possible sound from the bus itself so they’re as loud as you’d expect a bus to be I suppose 😂

    • @eddie9559
      @eddie9559 2 года назад +2

      @@jarjarbinks6018 thanks, good to know.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 2 года назад

      The power/fuel efficiency and zero emissions are a nice benefit though.

  • @amadeosendiulo2137
    @amadeosendiulo2137 7 месяцев назад

    Very nice to see these in North America.

  • @merccadoosis8847
    @merccadoosis8847 2 года назад +3

    Wow - awesome video.
    The system there looks absolutely fabulous, clean, and very efficient.

  • @m3lgar582
    @m3lgar582 3 года назад +8

    I would love to go to Seattle and see these.

  • @chevrolet1319
    @chevrolet1319 3 года назад +5

    We are having a Fan Trip Tomorrow, Aug. 22 in Dayton Ohio. 5 Trolleys total, 3 Historic Trolleys! Around 100 people attending from all over.

  • @worldtraveller2711
    @worldtraveller2711 3 года назад +4

    SEA is a very nice city with excellent public transport as Boston MBTA

  • @obus7800
    @obus7800 3 года назад +4

    In Hamilton, Ontario we had 3 trolley routes but instead of upgrading to modern trolleybuses that would have cut electricity costs over the already cheaper to run trolleys we had the PROVINCIAL Government decided more DIRTY diesels and costly, inefficient CNG buses was the way forward.

    • @videonut1988
      @videonut1988 3 года назад +1

      HSR might need to bring some of those tracklesses back or HSR miiight need to have a name change since they don’t run any “railways” on their “streets” anymore….

  • @radiogoodguy6287
    @radiogoodguy6287 3 года назад +4

    Love the video. Nice buses with big destination messages on the front. Doesn't Boston have similar buses?

    • @evanstonbalce9588
      @evanstonbalce9588 Год назад

      Yes, they do, but Boston’s trolleybuses were made by a company called Neoplan which is no longer in existence. Seattle’s trolleybuses are made by New Flyer

  • @edwardmiessner6502
    @edwardmiessner6502 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for sharing this Tim. Boston has five trackless trolley lines (Silver Line tunnel, Routes 71, 72, 73, 77A running out of the Harvard T-station). But Seattle's are the nicest!

  • @milesfann33
    @milesfann33 Год назад

    I do miss the old Breda's but the new ones are super nice too!

  • @Mr.NorthPhillyJoe-qf5uf
    @Mr.NorthPhillyJoe-qf5uf 9 месяцев назад +1

    At 1:58 My Posse Is On Broadway.

  • @Jackson-jh9yo
    @Jackson-jh9yo 3 года назад +2

    Can we get more trimet bus action

  • @Fan652w
    @Fan652w 3 года назад +2

    In European cities there is a move towards 'In-motion charging trolleybuses'. IE trolleybuses which can run off the wires using batteries which are charged while the bus is on the wires. Eg several Swiss and Czech cities have introduced them, as have Bratislava and Salzburg. The Swiss city of La Chaux de Fonds scrapped trollebuses in 2014, but is now going to bring them back in this in-motion charging form. The routes have been decided and the vehicles are on order.

    • @jobebrian
      @jobebrian 3 года назад +2

      True of the Seattle trolley buses as well!

    • @CreatorPolar
      @CreatorPolar 2 года назад

      Damn I thought slovakians would adapt to this technology no later than 2040 because we are big lazy asses

  • @christopherbryant366
    @christopherbryant366 2 года назад

    They look clean.. Kinda odd seeing trackless trolleys with no window in the back.

    • @evanstonbalce9588
      @evanstonbalce9588 2 года назад

      Transit agencies have an option of having their buses have rear windows

  • @NealCMH
    @NealCMH 3 года назад

    Do they still run in the Bus Tunnels or is that now just for the Light Rail?

    • @iceboxcv
      @iceboxcv 3 года назад +3

      The tunnels were switched to trains-only back in 2019

  • @Jackson-jh9yo
    @Jackson-jh9yo 3 года назад

    Cool

  • @tdickensheets
    @tdickensheets 3 года назад +1

    Nobody on the bus.

  • @mxr572
    @mxr572 3 года назад

    some are MCI and few are Volvo. Canadian companies.

    • @BurnedNoodle
      @BurnedNoodle 3 года назад

      volvo? I don't see any Novabuses.

    • @ChrisOnline1
      @ChrisOnline1 3 года назад +1

      MCI is an American company until they were bought by New Flyer, a Canadian company.

  • @andredingstertsao
    @andredingstertsao 3 года назад +1

    😂 I literally grew up with these things in China, at least for 35 years now. I don’t know it’s a tourist attraction in the States.

    • @user-kp1js6cb2s
      @user-kp1js6cb2s 3 года назад +5

      Unfortunately, us don't have electric public transport in most cities, so it is rather rare examples

    • @user-ov1ts8df1d
      @user-ov1ts8df1d 3 года назад

      Heard that Shanghai is going reject trolleys

    • @user-kp1js6cb2s
      @user-kp1js6cb2s 3 года назад

      @@user-ov1ts8df1d oof

  • @avigdonable
    @avigdonable 3 года назад +1

    Very cool. When the time and price is right, council might swap them to e-busses.

    • @TakingTransit
      @TakingTransit 3 года назад +11

      I hope they don't, trolleybuses are better than battery electric buses imo

    • @edwardmiessner6502
      @edwardmiessner6502 3 года назад +4

      @@TakingTransit I hope they don't either. The overhead wires can be maintained in perpetuity. Batteries? Who knows when the rare earth minerals will run out or get cut off?

    • @Fan652w
      @Fan652w 3 года назад

      @@edwardmiessner6502 In European cities there is a move towards 'In-motion charging trolleybuses. IE trolleybuses which can run off the wires using batteries which are charged while the bus is on the wires.

    • @CreatorPolar
      @CreatorPolar 2 года назад

      @@Fan652w still requires batteries that use rare earth materials and acid and I don’t think the government wants to worry about an acid leak after a serious accident

  • @wilhelmrombay1639
    @wilhelmrombay1639 3 года назад

    I like to know...where the electric equipment come from

  • @F142Lock
    @F142Lock 3 года назад

    Back in in old continent we had these e busses since the '60s!
    In the US still the private cars are the commuting tool.

    • @jarjarbinks6018
      @jarjarbinks6018 2 года назад +3

      Idk about other cities but Seattle had electric trolleys since the 1890’s and it was only in the 1940’s when they decided to rip up the trolley tracks and replace the routes with electric trolley-buses. Electric trolleys/trolley-buses were always necessary in Seattle because the electric motors had the immediate torque needed to transverse the steep hills on the East-west routes that combustion engines wouldn’t be able to similarly deliver

    • @ingarssamins1411
      @ingarssamins1411 2 года назад

      In Riga electric tramways are operating since 1900's and trolleybuses since 1947 😌

  • @sirindag2222
    @sirindag2222 3 года назад

    А трамвай