Crazy watching this. I actually never knew there was a trolley there. Down on Erie ave i would see the tracks but I never put 2 and 2 together and realized that the Torresdale and cottoman loop was probably a trolley before. Seeing it cross harbison ave is so strange to me bc I legit do not recall anything ever being there. Great video.
HI Grammatical Chainsaw, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Route 56 trolley began running between 23-Venango and Torresdale-Cottman in 1928 and did so as a trolley until 1992. Since then, there have been whispers of reinstating it as a trolley, but I'm not holding my breath. They were quick to pave the tracks over on Torresdale Avenue, and it would be very un-Philadelphia like to undo that. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebazYeah, really sad. There are many perks of trolleys over bus and vice versa. I am glad to have lived in one of the few North American cities where some trolleys still were in service. It is really a shame to see that so much was destroyed for the sake if the automobile. Hopefully things improve as the calls to modernize America's transportation grow but like you said, I am not too optimistic lol. Have a great one.
😁😃 I ABSOLUTELY ADORE THIS time OF Philadelphia's transit system.. An SEEING THE Trolleys pass by MY 🏡 & 🏫 👍 👍😊💞... THANKYOU Ever Soooooooooooooo VERY MUCH FOR THE AWESOME WONDERFUL & FABULOUS MEMORIES✌
Hi Taurus-Astrobike, Thanks for watching and for your comment. It was the end of a great era in Philadelphia transportation. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation and appreciate your kind words. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thanks so much for uploading this! It's great to see what everyday life looked like in my hometown way back in the early 90s. (Before I was born) All those old cars, storefronts that have since closed down, lack of dilapidation, even people wearing those 90s clothes. Its great! Never delete this. It will be a gem in the 2030s :)
Hi The Mouse, Thanks for watching and for your comment. As long as RUclips is around, it'll be there for viewing. Sometimes the streetscapes and backgrounds are as interesting as the vehicles. Glad you enjoyed it. Have a look at my Route 66 trackless presentation to see what things looked like over on Frankford Avenue. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I used to ride this line, EVERY TIME I went to my Grandmother's home from virtually birth (1975), to the VERY LAST DAY, this line was in revenue service... GREAT WORK!
Hi litephaze, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to send those kind words. I am glad you enjoyed the presentation and that it brought back some pleasant memories. Regards, tassiebaz.
Hi Wins and Losses, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Cheers, tassiebaz.
19:44. D and Erie was always an awesome place to watch the cars on the 56 blend in with what was still somewhat of an industrial corridor along the end of Erie Avenue that ran through Philadelphia's Juniata neighborhoods.
Hi Christopher, I always enjoyed the stretch between Whitaker and Erie and Kensington and Erie, and also the stretch on lower Torresdale Avenue between Frankford and Orthodox because the streetcars would really move at high speeds. Cheers, tassiebaz.
As much as I love the PCC-IIs (today’s Route 15 stock), I keep searching for videos on the vehicles in their white livery before their 1992 removal. Though I was born and raised in Philly, I was taught to stay out of the Northeast as I had no business there, so unlike the 15 and the 23 I NEVER rode the 56 line before the PCCs were replaced by Neoplans and NABI boxes (my most-hated SEPTA vehicles are the loud, boxy NABIs that apparently SEPTA hated as well!). Anyway, I noticed that the neighborhoods - compared to your video regarding the 15 - are NICE! I can understand why SEPTA decided on the 15 getting the heritage treatment (the zoo, easier to bring back, commercial revitalization efforts along Girard), but imagine the 56 running today with PCC-IIs!
Hi Lone Wolf, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Shame you didn't get to ride Rt 56 as a trolley. They moved right along on the section of Erie east of Front, and also on Torresdale from Frankford to Orthodox, especially on a Kansas City car. Many of neighborhoods were more industrial than residential. You've probably already seen my Rt 15 and 23 pre-1992 presentations with some white PCCs. If not, please have a look. I think the decision to use PCCIIs on the 15 (not sure if it was SEPTA's decision), was the location of Callowhill depot and the fact that Rt 10 would continue to run from there. It would have been nice to see Rt 56 (or even 23) run with PCCIIs, but the (lack of) depot situation at Luzerne and Germantown would have caused logistics problems, so 15 was the logical (and probably default) choice. Of course, if Philadelphia was San Francisco, they would have run PCCs on Market Street, then along the waterfront up to the Casino. Obviously I'm dreaming, but at least you can still ride the PCCs in San Francisco (I've got a few presentations on RUclips), Kenosha (I've got one presentation), and Boston-Mattapan (no presentation yet from me. Maybe one day). Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz there actually are preliminary plans for a trolley line on delaware ave to be operated by patco but needless to say would be operated by modern light rail vehicles. there are still obstacles that need to be overcome though; mainly funding and freight use of the median tracks on delaware ave. but hopefully in the next 10-15 years
Hi@@respect411, At the rate things happen in Philadelphia, I wouldn't be holding my breath. We're all still waiting for the extension of the Norristown High Speed Line to King of Prussia and the Northeast subway. We'll all keep hoping though. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz youre absolutely right. im worried about trolley modernization with all of the covid funding issues septa has. we already lost 2 regional rail lines likely for good as im sure u know. love your work btw
@@respect411 Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you taking the time to tell me you enjoy my videos. Philadelphia can be a frustrating place for those of us interested in public transport. Lots of words, but not too much action (except negative things that happen.) Cheers.
Hi Tyrone, Agreed but, unfortunately, it wasn't the only trolley line that was terminated in this way. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
every city in the country should lookinto this type of trolly service as their light rail service this was the way to get from point a to point b without alot of polution.
Hi Frank, Thanks for watching and for your insightful comment. Sadly, many cities had this form of transport at least until the end of World War 2. Then most decided to abandon it in favor of buses and roads. Then, in the 70s, a renaissance began and many cities began restoring and/or creating new "light rail" lines, and the trend has picked up speed. We'll just hope this keeps up with new lines opening regularly. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Hi brett8706, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I have no knowledge nor could find any information that K cars ran on the 53 and 56. That doesn't mean that they didn't get out there. I did find something that showed them on route 23, and I know they occasionally were on route 15 when that route first reopened. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Hi My Own Path, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Sometimes the streetscape and background are as interesting as the vehicles. Regards, tassiebaz.
Think it was back in the 1970's that Bachman plastics whose factory was on Erie Avenue stopped a route 56 trolley and took loads of pictures .They even used a step ladder. They made a very accurate model that they sold for a year or two until the company that owns the SEPTA logo threatened to sue them. I was in the Bachman factory a few times when Wylie and Green had me disconnect a couple of injection molding machines that they used to make plastic Ville houses for Bachman for 2 years until scum bags sent dies over to communist china to have the sweat shops there make them. Used to ride the route 56 while going to North Catholic. Were always late when it rained but ran better when it snowed. Back in earlyv1959's some trollies had a person stationed at rear doors to collect fares. Can remember seeing a foot diameter steel plate on floor where collection box was bolted to. Had to take SEPTA or the extra slow city 10 years to finally remove tracks after they replaced this route with buses.
Hi garbo, I hadn't thought about those rear door conductors in years. I think that there is still plenty of track on Erie Avenue. Torresdale Avenue got the paving, at least down to Frankford Avenue. Probably some politician lives up there. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Hi Jean, By "tags", if you mean what the destination signs were, they read: Eastbound: Torresdale-Cottman Westbound: 23-Venango Depot Trips: 10-Erie Hope this answers your question. If not, please let me know.
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Hi Anna, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Too bad they didn't have more Kawasaki cars so they could have run them on the 56 and the 23. The Kawasaki cars have really held up well. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
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Crazy watching this. I actually never knew there was a trolley there. Down on Erie ave i would see the tracks but I never put 2 and 2 together and realized that the Torresdale and cottoman loop was probably a trolley before. Seeing it cross harbison ave is so strange to me bc I legit do not recall anything ever being there. Great video.
HI Grammatical Chainsaw, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Route 56 trolley began running between 23-Venango and Torresdale-Cottman in 1928 and did so as a trolley until 1992. Since then, there have been whispers of reinstating it as a trolley, but I'm not holding my breath. They were quick to pave the tracks over on Torresdale Avenue, and it would be very un-Philadelphia like to undo that. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebazYeah, really sad. There are many perks of trolleys over bus and vice versa. I am glad to have lived in one of the few North American cities where some trolleys still were in service. It is really a shame to see that so much was destroyed for the sake if the automobile. Hopefully things improve as the calls to modernize America's transportation grow but like you said, I am not too optimistic lol. Have a great one.
😁😃 I ABSOLUTELY ADORE THIS time OF Philadelphia's transit system.. An SEEING THE Trolleys pass by MY 🏡 & 🏫 👍 👍😊💞... THANKYOU Ever Soooooooooooooo VERY MUCH FOR THE AWESOME WONDERFUL & FABULOUS MEMORIES✌
Hi Taurus-Astrobike, Thanks for watching and for your comment. It was the end of a great era in Philadelphia transportation. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation and appreciate your kind words. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thanks so much for uploading this! It's great to see what everyday life looked like in my hometown way back in the early 90s. (Before I was born) All those old cars, storefronts that have since closed down, lack of dilapidation, even people wearing those 90s clothes. Its great! Never delete this. It will be a gem in the 2030s :)
Hi The Mouse, Thanks for watching and for your comment. As long as RUclips is around, it'll be there for viewing. Sometimes the streetscapes and backgrounds are as interesting as the vehicles. Glad you enjoyed it. Have a look at my Route 66 trackless presentation to see what things looked like over on Frankford Avenue. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I used to ride this line, EVERY TIME I went to my Grandmother's home from virtually birth (1975), to the VERY LAST DAY, this line was in revenue service... GREAT WORK!
Hi litephaze, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to send those kind words. I am glad you enjoyed the presentation and that it brought back some pleasant memories. Regards, tassiebaz.
Priceless footage, thanks for uploading
Hi Wins and Losses, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I like the $1.13 gas😀 . Wonderful nostalgic video!
Hi Rawvision, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Nothing like the good old days, is there. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
It's hard to believe this was more than 30 years ago!
Hi Michael, Agreed, where does time go? Seems like just yesterday. Cheers, tassiebaz.
19:44. D and Erie was always an awesome place to watch the cars on the 56 blend in with what was still somewhat of an industrial corridor along the end of Erie Avenue that ran through Philadelphia's Juniata neighborhoods.
Hi Christopher, I always enjoyed the stretch between Whitaker and Erie and Kensington and Erie, and also the stretch on lower Torresdale Avenue between Frankford and Orthodox because the streetcars would really move at high speeds. Cheers, tassiebaz.
As much as I love the PCC-IIs (today’s Route 15 stock), I keep searching for videos on the vehicles in their white livery before their 1992 removal. Though I was born and raised in Philly, I was taught to stay out of the Northeast as I had no business there, so unlike the 15 and the 23 I NEVER rode the 56 line before the PCCs were replaced by Neoplans and NABI boxes (my most-hated SEPTA vehicles are the loud, boxy NABIs that apparently SEPTA hated as well!). Anyway, I noticed that the neighborhoods - compared to your video regarding the 15 - are NICE! I can understand why SEPTA decided on the 15 getting the heritage treatment (the zoo, easier to bring back, commercial revitalization efforts along Girard), but imagine the 56 running today with PCC-IIs!
Hi Lone Wolf, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Shame you didn't get to ride Rt 56 as a trolley. They moved right along on the section of Erie east of Front, and also on Torresdale from Frankford to Orthodox, especially on a Kansas City car. Many of
neighborhoods were more industrial than residential. You've probably already seen my Rt 15 and 23 pre-1992 presentations with some white PCCs. If not, please have a look. I think the decision to use PCCIIs on the 15 (not sure if it was SEPTA's decision), was the location of Callowhill depot and the fact that Rt 10 would continue to run from there. It would have been nice to see Rt 56 (or even 23) run with PCCIIs, but the (lack of) depot situation at Luzerne and Germantown would have caused logistics problems, so 15 was the logical (and probably default) choice.
Of course, if Philadelphia was San Francisco, they would have run PCCs on Market Street, then along the waterfront up to the Casino. Obviously I'm dreaming, but at least you can still ride the PCCs in San Francisco (I've got a few presentations on RUclips), Kenosha (I've got one presentation), and Boston-Mattapan (no presentation yet from me. Maybe one day). Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz there actually are preliminary plans for a trolley line on delaware ave to be operated by patco but needless to say would be operated by modern light rail vehicles. there are still obstacles that need to be overcome though; mainly funding and freight use of the median tracks on delaware ave. but hopefully in the next 10-15 years
Hi@@respect411, At the rate things happen in Philadelphia, I wouldn't be holding my breath. We're all still waiting for the extension of the Norristown High Speed Line to King of Prussia and the Northeast subway. We'll all keep hoping though. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz youre absolutely right. im worried about trolley modernization with all of the covid funding issues septa has. we already lost 2 regional rail lines likely for good as im sure u know. love your work btw
@@respect411 Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you taking the time to tell me you enjoy my videos.
Philadelphia can be a frustrating place for those of us interested in public transport. Lots of words, but not too much action (except negative things that happen.) Cheers.
How dare they terminate such a good trolley route
Hi Tyrone, Agreed but, unfortunately, it wasn't the only trolley line that was terminated in this way. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
every city in the country should lookinto this type of trolly service as their light rail service this was the way to get from point a to point b without alot of polution.
Hi Frank, Thanks for watching and for your insightful comment. Sadly, many cities had this form of transport at least until the end of World War 2. Then most decided to abandon it in favor of buses and roads. Then, in the 70s, a renaissance began and many cities began restoring and/or creating new "light rail" lines, and the trend has picked up speed. We'll just hope this keeps up with new lines opening regularly. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Nice video! Thanks for posting!!’
Hi drippinglass, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Regards, tassiebaz.
I don't remember the cars being so old in 1991.
That's cause most of the cars being driven in 1991 were still from the 70s and 80s.
Only saw a ‘71-‘73 Mustang that looked cool. All the rest was crusher food.
LUZERNE DEPOT is gone. No where to store the trolleys. Never no more return for ROUTE 56 trolleys , Same for ROUTE 23
Hi Steve, It's a miracle the 15 is still running. Regards, tassiebaz.
22:44. That SEPTA Neoplan bus though
Thanks again, tassiebaz.
Was this shot on film or video? My guess would be video. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Petworth Traction Co. This was shot with video. Regards, tassiebaz.
Прикольный резвый старый трамвайчик. И цвет хорошо подобран. Приятно смотреть
И никто не пытается объехать трамвай,запипикать, уважительно относятся
I had forgotten about the Wendy's across from NC...
Hi Tom, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Sometimes the background streetscapes bring back some good memories. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
oo/woo
this is the short oo sound
Thanks for watching. tassiebaz.
Did SEPTA occasionally run K-cars on the 53 and 56? I know they did and now do, since the line was reopened, on the 15.
Hi brett8706, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I have no knowledge nor could find any information that K cars ran on the 53 and 56. That doesn't mean that they didn't get out there. I did find something that showed them on route 23, and I know they occasionally were on route 15 when that route first reopened. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
19:00 or 19:02 . That bass and those bells on that 2163 (2183)?
Hi Christopher, Thanks again for watching and your attentiveness to detail. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I saw a Scruff McGruff and COPS tv show billboard!
Hi My Own Path, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Sometimes the streetscape and background are as interesting as the vehicles. Regards, tassiebaz.
Roy Rogers!❤️
Hi donkey boy, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Think it was back in the 1970's that Bachman plastics whose factory was on Erie Avenue stopped a route 56 trolley and took loads of pictures .They even used a step ladder. They made a very accurate model that they sold for a year or two until the company that owns the SEPTA logo threatened to sue them. I was in the Bachman factory a few times when Wylie and Green had me disconnect a couple of injection molding machines that they used to make plastic Ville houses for Bachman for 2 years until scum bags sent dies over to communist china to have the sweat shops there make them. Used to ride the route 56 while going to North Catholic. Were always late when it rained but ran better when it snowed. Back in earlyv1959's some trollies had a person stationed at rear doors to collect fares. Can remember seeing a foot diameter steel plate on floor where collection box was bolted to. Had to take SEPTA or the extra slow city 10 years to finally remove tracks after they replaced this route with buses.
Hi garbo, I hadn't thought about those rear door conductors in years.
I think that there is still plenty of track on Erie Avenue. Torresdale Avenue got the paving, at least down to Frankford Avenue. Probably some politician lives up there. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Fascinio for tram am , train , trolley ...
Shame they built new tracks and stops then stopped using the trolley shortly after...
Hi kiegeez, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I believe they did they same thing on parts of Route 23. Regards, tassiebaz.
What were the destination tags for route 56?
Hi Jean, By "tags", if you mean what the destination signs were, they read:
Eastbound: Torresdale-Cottman
Westbound: 23-Venango
Depot Trips: 10-Erie
Hope this answers your question. If not, please let me know.
22:02 2nd and Erie
Hi Tyrone, You are correct. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
We're Love Too See Change SEPTA could have the Northeast Center City South Philly subway Surface Trolleys Line Extension Local And Express Peak Rush Hours With PCC Trolleys Cars And Light Rail Vehicles All At Same Times
ee/yee
this is the ee sound
Thanks for watching. tassiebaz.
19:00
Thanks. Cheers, tassiebaz.
As I said, septa always downgrading a lot
Hi Tyrone, It started with SEPTA's predecessor, the PTC in the mid-50s. SEPTA is just finishing the job. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I like the Kawasaki cars better.
Hi Anna, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Too bad they didn't have more Kawasaki cars so they could have run them on the 56 and the 23. The Kawasaki cars have really held up well. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.