Philadelphia-Market Frankford Line-Scenes with Budd Cars: Run-Pasts, Driver's View, and Slideshow
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- IMPORTANT NOTE: ON-BOARD for the FIRST 4 MINUTES, THEN DRIVER'S VIEW after that for 6 minutes, then the SLIDESHOW.
This presentation starts with run-past scenes at Girard and 2nd Street Stations for 4 minutes. Then there is a 6-minute Driver's View filmed from Allegheny Station to 2nd Street Station (not continuous). After that there is a slideshow that features trains running on the Front Street portion of the line that was abandoned when Interstate 95 was completed in 1977. The video was filmed in 1991 and the slideshow in the mid-1960s to the late 1970s.
This almost brought me to tears thinking about my childhood growing up in Philly in the 60's and 70's I moved to N.C. in 1989 I miss Philly
Hi Lee, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I'm glad the presentation brought back some good memories. The El is certainly a unique Philadelphia landmark, Regards, tassiebaz.
This is AWESOME!!! I have been looking for these photos for almost 20 years. I rode the EL during this period of time as a child. Also this would be around the time Rocky was filmed. Very Very Cool. Thank You for sharing this.
Hi hothits, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I am glad you enjoyed the presentation. Regards, tassiebaz.
I’ve ridden doing one of these trains many years ago coming up as a toddler all up to my adulthood because I remembered some of those stations before they were renovated and transformed into brand new ones because I remember in the 80s, they’ve already had done construction on the trestles itself and replace them with brand new tracks because I remember they had to use buses to take the people the rest of the way up to Frankford terminal in northeast Philadelphia back in the 80s because I remember I was on that stuff over the years before the project is completed, and this video has proof of it.
Hi Bernard, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Thanks for this video. I had forgotten how the Frankford side stations looked before the renovations. It was great (for this mid 1970's born person) to see the 46th Street Station before the first renovation in the late 1970's and early 1980's. It was even better to see the original tunnel opening at Front & Arch Streets, the original Front Street viaduct south of Girard Station, and, most importantly to me, the platform of the long gone Fairmount Station. Of the cities that started their late 19th century or early 20th century elevated train systems, only Chicago's is in tact, retaining most of its original look, albeit with repainting and some necessary renovations over the years. New York is next, with its partially-dismantled (moving the lines underground in Manhattan in the 1950's) elevated viaducts and stations only cosmetically being renovated. Philadelphia, which also dismantled part of its elevated rail line in the mid 1950's (22nd to 45th Streets), completely renovated their viaducts and stations (for the better actually, especially the Market side), and Boston long rid their elevated train viaduct when they moved the Orange Line underground.
Hi Liberty Bey, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Making this presentation was really a trip down memory lane for me too. I remember a bit further back (no pictures unfortunately) riding the El from West Philly into the city when the tunnel portal was after the Schuylkill River Bridge at 24th St., with the original pre-Budd cars. I'm working on a Boston presentation that shows the elevated structure at North Station. I hope you'll have time to have a look at that when I publish it in a few weeks. Regards, tassiebaz.
Libertu Bey: Some of Chicago's Ls were dismantled during the late 1950s : The Garfield Park L when the Eisenhower Expressway was built got torn down immediately after the replacement median strip rapid transit line was completed ( now the Blue Line). That was on June 22nd 1958. The Stock Yards L was abandoned on October 6 1957 and the Kenwood L abandoned November 30 1957. Also earlier on January 29th 1954 the Normal Park &69 th Street L was abandoned.
I rode the Market Frankfort line growing up in the Northeast. A lot of fond memories were brought back watching your film.
Hi Daniel, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation. Regards, tassiebaz.
Great. Rode on them for years in the 80's. The 1960 M-3 Budd Co. cars were called " Almond Joys " ; as the roof ventilator fan humps resembled the candy bars.
Hi Johnny, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Glad you enjoyed the presentation. Regards, tassiebaz.
I rode this in the 60's It's been more than 25 yrs since I last rode the El. Fond memories of riding the El into town with my Mom, getting on in the Northeasr. Thanx again tassiebaz, you know exactly how to jog my old memoey banks!💝
Hi Sharon, I glad that my good memories are also your good memories. Many things have changed inn the 25 years since your last ride. You wouldn't recognize Bridge Street Terminal as it was completely realigned in about 2003. When I first saw Frankford Avenue between Pratt and Bridge without the elevated structure over it, I thought I was in another city. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz I still remember going to the Ellis Theatre one Sat. There was snow on the platform. While in line at the theatre, hearing the screeching of one el arriving,one leaving. And wondering how they could hear my Mom asking for tickets.The shadow of the structure adding to the uncertainty. Can't imagine it not being there!
Hi @@sharonramone7186, For those who have lived with the structure all our lives, the area is almost unrecognizable. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz I think they redid the entire terminal too. The entire layout of where the buses park now (since the mid-2000s I think) is totally different to how it was in the early/mid 1990s when I 1st remember Frankford Terminal. I believe they did the full makeover between 2000 & 2005. Funny tidbit: Everyone I know calls that last station and the general area 'Bridge and Pratt' despite that both of those streets are parallel to each other and therefore no intersection 'Bridge & Pratt' exists.
@@IvyANguyen Hi, Thanks for watching and for your comment. You are correct in that they completely redid the Frankford terminal in the early 2000s. Have a look at my video ruclips.net/video/n4PrOCSyok0/видео.html - Philadelphia - Frankford Elevated - Last Days of the old Bridge St. Terminal - 2003. Regarding your Bridge & Pratt comment, in the local language many people do call it Bridge & Pratt. There's also Margaret-Orthodox and York-Dauphin. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😃
Wow, they were already in the process of reconstructing the Frankford Elevated in 1991!
Thank you for the memories, I used to ride the market frankford line all the time in the 80s , I’ve moved out of Philly in 2006 and quite honestly can’t remember the last time I rode on the El , it was also really cool seeing that old part of the El that ran over front st near Delaware ave , I remember seeing it as a kid in the early 70s
Hi *PeZ*, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I'm glad you liked the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. When the El was first built in 1908, it ran over Delaware Ave. down to South Street. The Frankford part was added later in 1922. I've published a short video of this Delaware Ave. part. If you are interested, it's at ruclips.net/video/Y7m7JDeHsOk/видео.html. Cheers, tassiebaz.
AWESOME video.. I almost forgotten some of the sites an station stops ( Fairmount )..😅WOOOW an the old train tunnel exit... Kooooool yo😂... THANKYOU Soooooooooo very MUCH FOR SHARING BUDDY !!! AMAZING memories you've GIVEN BACK TO ME !!!✌👍😁
Hi Taurus-Astrobike, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I always enjoyed sharing these scenes, and today's technology gives me an efficient way to do it to a much wider audience than ever before. Comments like yours give me great satisfaction. Regards, tassiebaz.
Brings me back memories
Hi Keith, Yes, the good old days. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz thank you
Fun fact, the married pairs, the odd-numbered half of the pair came with GE motors, the even-numbered half came with Westinghouse motors. All single units were Westinghouse.
Also the A and B ends had different pitch horns
I rode the El to work everyday in the 70’s.I worked at John Wanamakers.I live in Richmond Virginia now 67 yr old grandmother and a widow.The el would go past the building where American Bandstand show was.I was born and raised in West Philly.69th street terminal in Upper Darby then to Frankfort in Kensington.
Hi karen, Thanks for watching and sharing your memories. Yes, Bandstand was near the 46th Street Station back in the good old days. Wanamaker's department store was a real treasure. I frequently used to have lunch at the Crystal Tea Room. Those are all good memories now. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Watching this makes me sad in a way. I had just turned 3 when these cars were being phased out. I only have a vague memory of the circular ceiling vents and the padded seats. Never even remembered hearing the horn at all.
Hi Azenturi, Thanks for watching and for your comment. At least you probably remember the old Bridge St. Terminal. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz To an extent. I remembered the fence being red, it being kind of ugly, and the one time I needed to take the 88 from there with my mother. The more clear thing to me is when Arrott was still Margaret-Orthodox and still had a red stripe on the edge of the platform.
Depending what car was in the lead, the horn was a low F# or a high A-flat.
Azenturi I feel the same way. I was 2 at the time. I can remember when the Broad Street Line drivers announced the stations and the old chimes the trains used to make, and the Bridge-Pratt terminal, but I can’t remember if I’ve rode on one of the M3 cars or not LOL. I do remember the current M4 cars used to have cushioned seats though.
The almond joy cars officially retired in 1999 I used to ride the EL/ Market Frankford line back in the 90s when I was going to high school. When I was a kid back in the 80s riding the EL used to scare me but as I started to ride the EL back and forth to school I gotten so use to it didn't bother me no more. Very interesting seeing pictures of the EL from back then thanks for sharing:)
Hi Florence, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Glad you liked the presentation. Regards, tassiebaz.
Ah, the Philly neighborhoods before the gentrification. lol Great video.
Hi Rawvision, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Yes, Philadelphia in all its splendour. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Oh yeah. Look how nice the city was pre 1960. What happened to those areas? Or the entire city for that matter.
Clearest pictures I’ve ever seen of the arch street portal, which was wayyyy before my time
Hi Darryl. Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Cheers, tassiebaz.
If the video had been shot from the northbound train, at 8:45 you would have seen a wide area to the right/east where the temporary tracks that ran while I-95 was constructed met the subway. If you think the EL is high up in some of those slides you should have seen the Roller Coaster (that's what we called it). A single track with scaffolding made almost entirely from wood, northbound and southbound trains had to take turns. Because it had to be around 50' up to pass over all the I-95 road construction the train shook like all hell, especially in the wind. A lot of riders refused to use it even though taking a bus could add as much as an hour to a rush hour trip. I took it to work five days a week and just enjoyed a view I knew wouldn't last. Coming home one 4th of July I could see a bunch of the neighborhood fireworks displays that local associations used to put on at local ball fields. I lost count after five and I was almost at the bottom of the hill. It's times like these I wish smartphones had been around in the 1970's.
Hi RMoribayashi, Thanks for watching and for your comprehensive comment and information. I don't recall the infrastructure you described, although it sounds like a most interesting ride. The only recollection of something close to that are the three pictures starting at about 16:20 in the presentation, and taken in the summer of 1976.
I, too, wish that consumer video had been around in the 60s and 70s, but I'm still thankful for the historic pictures that do exist. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz There are some (sadly) low resolution photos of the temporary track here - www.flickr.com/photos/lwdemery/15336909533/in/photostream/
@@MatthewDunphy Hi and thanks!!
Awesome, a trip down memory lane!
Hi jam06477, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Some of the background scenes are almost as good as the trains. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thanks for the additional links.They were very helpful. It helped me to figure out the reconstruction and reconfigurations.
Thanks for this presentation. I was raised in New York so I am only now learning about the Frankford El. I was under the impression that the Front St portion was torn down a long time ago but was surprised to see that it was only as recent as 1977.
Can you provide a transit map or something that will show the original route before the re-alignment? Didn't the Front St portion and the rest of the El onto Frankford come together and go into the tunnel near the Ben Franklin Bridge? Anything you can provide would really be appreciated.
Thanks
Ted
Hi Ted, Thanks for watching and for your comment. The original Front Street alignment is not that far different that where it is now in the middle of I95. The El ran on/under Market Street and then turned sharply onto Front, continuing on Front to Kensington Ave, then to Frankford Ave and the terminal at Bridge street. The change in 1977 meant the curve was not as sharp and led to the alignment in the middle of I95 to just south of Girard, where it joined the original structure on Front Street. Also, the station at Front & Fairmount was replaced with a station at Spring Garden and I95, a distance of about 2 blocks.
Have a look at:
everipedia.org/wiki/Market%25E2%2580%2593Frankford_Line/
for an interesting more in-depth history of the line.
Also have a look at:
www.phillytrolley.org/1932map/1932_prt_map_d2.html and
www.phillytrolley.org/streetmap/1944_ptc_map_d2.html for some interesting maps. Hope this helps. Regards, tassiebaz.
The slide at 11:40 is taken on Noble St toward N Front St I believe.
Hi fwifepoop, I believe you are correct, although things look a lot different now. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I think the last three slides were of the temporary El track constructed to pass over the I-95 construction. I've been looking for photos of that crazy wooden rollercoaster for decades.
Hi RMoribayashi, Thanks for watching and for your comment. You are correct about the last three slides. Wish I had taken more. Regards, tassiebaz.
I'm remember taking the El to and from work back then and seeing many riders upset by the height of that thing and how it shook way more than it should have. Personally, while I enjoy the faster track and cool view between the lanes of I-95, I still miss that untamed beast.
Hi @@RMoribayashi, The El was only part of it. The streetscape under it on Front Street was really an untamed beast. Of course, it's all modern and trendy now (and no fun anymore). Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz The new El track emerges from in-between the two elevated I-95 lanes right around Front and Germantown. That's a hellava stack and the temporary track had to be built high enough so all of that could pass underneath without being obstructed. I wish someone had made a time lapse movie of the construction.
When it was heading west arriving at Allegheny, the lack of city skyline was truly blinding. It's amazing how a major American city still hadn't had erected skyscrapers yet as they were STILL honoring a gentleman's agreement to not erect anything higher than William Penn above city hall. Although, 91 was when liberty 1 was finished so don't know but this may be 89-90 not 91
Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Agreed, but you have to remember that this is Philadelphia, where progress takes a long time to happen. My records show this was 1991, although it might have been 1990. Not 1989 because I didn't have the camera then. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Hi, again: Does anybody (i.e., you) have any audio (at least) of the old BSL trains (1960's)? The sound of those trains accelerating is something I'd love to here. They looked something like the Chicago "L" trains, but, it seems to me" they were wider than the MF trains. I remember webbed straw seats--is my memory correct?
Hi Michael, I wish I did. I love the sounds of the older equipment too. Back in those days, I had an 8mm Kodak Brownie camera (no sound), which I used sparingly because film was expensive, you only got 4 minutes on a roll (2 each side), and results never looked as good as when you took the film, especially compared to 35mm slides. Also, back then it was difficult to take pictures in the dark subway, so Fern Rock was about the only place to get something.
Your memory is correct about the interiors, and I'm sure they were wider than the MF .
Try this:
ruclips.net/video/Q6nDsLXifgk/видео.html
for a short video with some sound on the BSS.
If you like sounds of older equipment , please have a look at my videos as follows:
The Sydney one is especially good for sounds in a tunnel.
ruclips.net/video/RIW6AAzjHdk/видео.html
Rittnerbahn
ruclips.net/video/2T7O7iuMNj8/видео.html
Philadelphia -- Camden Line and Broad Street Subway
ruclips.net/video/9ksR47ARoI4/видео.html
Sydney Suburban Railways - Last Days of the Red Sets - On-Board Sights & Sounds
ruclips.net/video/kyorEH75gh0/видео.html
Rome Laziali to Giardinetti Railway
ruclips.net/video/SVUBBtoJKMc/видео.html
Stockholm Rt 21 Lidingöbanan
Regards, tassiebaz.
Its on my channel. I was on one of the last fan trips and got a few minutes in before the camcorder battery died.
I saw the clip. And thanked you there (on your channel). Cheers and a happy New Year. (did you go to the Mummer's Parade?)
Hi Michael, Thanks for your comment and New Year's wishes. All the best for 2018 to you and yours. I don't live in the Philadelphia area, so didn't get to the Mummer's Parade, but probably would not have gone anyway because of the extreme cold weather. Regards, tassiebaz.
*HEAR
I miss these BUDD cars, they were so cute and had great heat in winter.
Hi Tracci, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. They were a bit rough-riding however. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
They only rode roughly because septa did not address track maintenance properly, these cars had great heat, with so many changes in Philadelphia i feel displaced, i can't wait to retire to move south.
Hi @@1AEROSOL.1PUFF, Sounds like you know SEPTA well. However, it is my understanding that the Budd cars had bad riding qualities almost from the beginning of service. The trucks selected for the cars were not the ones that Budd recommended, which resulted in some severe side-to-side shaking. Also, the cars were plagued with faulty wheel frame assemblies causing the body to shake. SEPTA's track maintenance only added to the situation. You are right though, you couldn't fault the heat.
I can't blame you for wanting to get to a better place. When you do, you'll probably never look back. Regards, tassiebaz.
The Front Street portion wasn't abandoned, it was demolished, just like Front St itself. Originally, the EL came out from the portal on Front & Market. If you're at that corner and make the left onto Front toward Arch, the original portal and tracks would have run right along the right side of Front all the way up to Kensington. But even earlier that that, there was the Ferries Line extension which branched off at Arch and ran back down Delaware Ave to South St. That extension only lasted about 10 years before being dismantled.
But back to the Frankford extension...
When 95 was built, the old Front St. section ran along where the 95 wall is now. When 95 was built, the underground tunnel was extended out further to the east before turning north and running directly under 95 to the new portal just south of Race. From there, the El is contoured to the highway, running between the north and south lanes until it reaches Germantown Ave. where it resumes its original run along Front.
Hi Victor, Thanks for watching and for your most informative and interesting comment. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
I use to operate the el from 01 until 04 they still had a few budd cars around never got the chance to motor one but talking to the operators who did said they was a pleasure to drive I’m on the orange line now the Kawasaki cars are work horses but they are starting to show they’re age I’m gonna miss them when they do replace the Kawasaki’s
Hi Larry, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Sounds like you have a fun job. Regards, tassiebaz.
Yes I do but they done made so many modifications to the Kawasaki cars now it’s a shame because they don’t run like they use to a lot of the consists are no good they tend to put a lot of dead cars in the middle and you can feel it in the operation
Hi Larry, Sounds very SEPTA-like. Regards, tassiebaz.
Larry McNeil *THEIR
Jay Coleman ummm ok
Wow! They look close to the 2200 series (Budd Co) the Chicago Transit Authority had. Built back in 1968-1969.
Hi BNforever2009, There is definitely a similarity. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I used to ride the el to school in the 6th7th and 8th grades or from 1969 to 72. The best part of the line was between 2nd and Girard. Unfortunately that stretch was destroyed by I95 construction along with the waterfront. Today there are no through streets between Race and Washington Avenue to this day,just a Mickey Mouse crossing at Market street
Hi Thom, Unfortunately, the El is not what it used to be. Six-minute rush hour headways instead of 90 seconds. No A and B trains. I hear the Broad Street is now safer than the Market Frankford Line. Equipment falling apart (new cars ordered). And I95, a road that Philadelphia had to have, ruining the waterfront. Typical. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz Exploring you tube I found that there really is a Frankford el song. It’s written by Todd Rundren for the group he had sponsored,The American Dream. I only know of 2 other songs about subways. The others are Take the A train, and The Jersey Bounce.
@@ThomRealEstate-k1y Hi, Yes I know the Frankford EL song. Don't forget The Kingston Trio - M.T.A song. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Ah the old Ptc/Septa M-3 cars, the "cousins" to the NYC R-32's. I rode on both
Hi zazaranger5, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😃
I've often wonder why the El was so high up in the air between Callowhill and Girard?
Hi Joseph, Thanks for your comment. I'm not exactly sure of the answer to your question It could have been because there were railroad tracks on Front Street under the El and, when they ran trains under there, they needed the clearance. Regards, tassiebaz.
The first time I ever heard inverters on a transit vehicle (Age 6) it was these'uns.
And their asselleration was noteworthy. Better than anything in NYC.
Hello,
Thanks for posting! Quick Question: Do you own the rights to this footage or is government produced and therefore public domain?
Hi Ryan, All images on this presentation are from my personal collection. Thanks for watching. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Almond Joys!
Incredibly light traffic on I95
11:41 That’s around where Rocky started his run in Rocky 1! (1976)
Hi Thatgamingdiary, Thanks for watching and for your interesting comment. I knew it was somewhere around there but thought it may have been closer to Kensington. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😃
@@tassiebaz I think it was barely out of frame on the right side of the factory on the left
Thanks for your reply and the link to the History of the El. One question remains: was the Front St portion that was torn down in 1977 part of the Delaware Avenue Elevated? From my reading it seems the Delaware Elevated was longer and then cut back sometime in the 1930s to become the Front St El along the river. Is that correct? Are there any photos of this longer portion as well as a photo of the Interlocking Junction as it came out of the tunnel at 2nd Street? I have that picture paperback book on these Els but it can get confusing as I try to understand all the various configurations over the year.
Thanks
Hi Ted, Just after leaving the tunnel on Front Street, the tracks curved around on Arch Street onto Delaware Ave towards the ferry. The line to Frankford continued straight north on Front Street. So only the very beginning of the portion torn down in 1977 was part of the Delaware Ave line.
Have a look at:
phillyandstuff.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/delaware-avenue-elevated-railway.html
and
www.philadelphiaspeaks.com/threads/a-bunch-of-old-delaware-ave-photos.30594/page-5
(it may say you need a password, but just hit "cancel" and it should open the site). The pictures you are looking for is on this site. If you can't open it, let me know.
Regards, tassiebaz.
The Delaware El was torn down in 1939.
@@tassiebaz if you noticed that as the el traveled east bound after exiting the portal that there was a tower on the eastbound side. it was no longer in use by the time this photo was taken. it's purpose was to direct trains either to frankford or to the ferry line. the ferry line ended at south street. as mentioned it was torn down in the early 40's. it was no longer needed to the completion of the bridge. it did get a short reprieve before being torn down.
Hi @@MrRonfelder, Thanks for your interesting and informative comment. I've had a few other comments about the line down to the ferries and found a few interesting old pictures of that junction on the Internet. Unfortunately, I can't paste a picture into this response. Maybe I'll do a very brief presentation to show this as there seems to be some interest. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
A unique city viaduct. Your channel is insane.
Hi trainluvr, Thanks for watching and for your comment. It's great to be able to share these memories with those who appreciate and enjoy this stuff in a way I never imagined when I took the pictures. tassiebaz.
I watched this again and completely forgot I just watched it three weeks ago! What I can not forget is how In 74 I was 13 and my father permitted me to run around the system on my own whilst he conducted business. I was approached by a pervert, as well as man who wanted me to deliver a small brown paper bag. There were numerous mentally ill homeless festooning the streets as well. Even to a New Yorker this all seemed a bit much. I got to ride the Broad Street line through un-renovated stations as well. It took several later trips to Philadelphia to discover all the traction wonders. What a paradise it was with the Reading Terminal and blue cars, two high speed suburban third rail lines (one old, one new), various trolley systems.
Hi trainluvr, Sounds like you had some interesting experiences in Philadelphia while exploring the transportation system. It was still pretty interesting when they had lots of older equipment operating on some different types of routes. I am glad you got to experience it. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@trainluvr My friends and I were 11 in 68 and we used to take the el into town from Margaret- Orthodox stop,alone. It was exciting, fun + no one bothered you back then.We would get off at 8th, and run around town all day on Sat. So sad that you cab't do that anymore
I no longer label things I like as ‘insane’ because it’s a top word in clickbait video thumbnails. Also we have literal insane people in politics.
They remind me of the R42's/R32's/R38's
Hi Lego MTA Subways, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz you too! :D
Notice how traffic on 95 is going faster than the EL. lol
That's because the M4s are so slow and heavy. They're already doing a number on Frankford roadbed.
Both.
Those cars were awful! They were ungodly hot in the summer with just some roof fan vents, especially during rush hour. I think, IIRC, they still had padded seats back then though.
I agree and they used to shake really bad too. They were 33 years old when they got the boot.
Better than the garbage we have running now
Was Fairmont Station at Front or 2nd?
Hi Big Rob, Thanks for watching. The stop was at Front & Fairmount. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Spent a lot time on those cars.
Hi dew02300, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well. Cheers tassiebaz.
any photos on market traveling new alignment in median during 1977 construction
Hi feb196940, The photos in this presentation are the only ones I have from that era. tassiebaz
Yes, go to PENNDOT's website and look up "I 95" corridor improvement project. You will see some archival photos of them re-routing the EL at Fairmount station to what is now Spring Garden station.
+Bee Enn thanks
Thanks for this presentation. I was raised in New York so I am only now learning about the Frankford El. I was under the impression that the Front St portion was torn down a long time ago but was surprised to see that it was only as recent as 1977.
Can you provide a transit map or something that will show the original route before the re-alignment? Didn't the Front St portion and the rest of the El onto Frankford come together and go into the tunnel near the Ben Franklin Bridge? Anything you can provide would really be appreciated.
Thanks
Ted ( tedvalis@verizon.net )
These cars look like the R32 or R38
Andy Diaz both this and the R32 were made by Budd. R38 was St Louis Car Co
Remember when it would be 100 degrees on the train and they had two giant round loud fans going. Going to work in a suit. Oh I remember all right..no air conditioning..
Hi Streetwork, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I have the same distinct memories. Cheers, tassiebaz. 🥵♨🌅
Getting off at 40th Street to walk home...
Hi Eric, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Too bad I never got to ride the El' in its original form.
Hi Blake, Yes, the El has had lots of changes since its original inception in 1908. I started riding in the 1950s, so I got to actually experience some of the things that are no longer there. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz I'm from New York so I barely get to ride it as is. When I rode it for the first time, I thought that the Market Street structure looked a little peculiar and so I started doing a little research.
Remember'em well; ... Always love the way the motors sounded off when accelerating,...but the ride wasn't as smooth as the ones now,...maybe it was the tracks idk... & Why do they call them almond joy cars, when they look like (skybars) just saying, lol.
Hi Gregory, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I believe it was the Budd cars themselves that were particularly rough riding. The track may have contributed too. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Market frankford line making all stops.. doors are closing.. beeb beeb.
Hi MU'MIN 215, Sounds about right!! Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Oh, you can't get to heaven on the Frankford El,
no, you can't get to heaven on the Frankford El
Cause the Frankford El goes straight to...
Frankford.
Hi Thomas, Whereas the Broad Street Subway is a different story. Thanks for watching and for your amusing comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz I knew it came from my youth....somewhere I am suspicious I saw this band one day in Fairmount Park. Probably along with Lothar and the Hand People.
Here's the song, just not all the lyrics. I suspect there is a more folky version from earlier.
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@@thomasjamison2050 HI, Wow, thanks for that. I probably had it somewhere in the back of mind but had forgotten all about it. Great stuff. Thanks again. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Now I know why they call these cars the "ALMOND JOYS". It's due to the projections on their roofs those bumps. They sure don't have the colors of the ALMOND JOYS candy wrappers.
Hi Albert, You are correct about the origin of the "nickname" . Thanks for watching. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz By the way ALMOND JOYS are one of my favorite candies and I bought some after seeing videos of these cars.
@@albertcarello619 Glad to be able to trigger your enjoyment. Cheers, tassiebaz.
TASSIEBAZ. THIS TRAIN IS CALLED THE MARKET-FRANKFORD LINE GOES FROM NORTHEAST PHILLY TO UPPER DARBY.. ALWAYS GET YOUR FACTS CORRECT... DO YOUR HOMEWORK..
Hi 5442 steve, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Exactly which of my facts in the presentation are you disputing? Regards, tassiebaz.