You should test the images from the same distance using both the 18mm and the 20mm. I saw another guy do it and came to the conclusion that the 20mm is actually more like a 19mm. See if you can duplicate his results.
Metal doesn't mean good build quality (though the Loxia line has that) and the Loxia lenses are barely any lighter than this one, so those two points you just made don't really mean much.
I'm not a fan of wide-angle, but I do have a Zeiss Flektogon 20mm f/4 just in case. It's slower and not as crisp as these two, but you get absolutely zero distortion and even closer focussing for only €100 (+ an adapter if you don't already own one)
It does of course depend on your specific needs, but this blog article lists quite a few: phillipreeve.net/blog/user-guide-ultra-wideangle-lenses-sony-alpha-7-series/
@@benw2751 Or crop in with the 24 and get 36mm - decisions, decisions! The 24GM is magical for street and at night and feels great on the camera. It is my best lens and the build quality spoils you for lesser -thinking this new G lens looks a bit cheap up close.
Superb video as always. I was about to pull the trigger and buy a Zeiss Batis 18mm for landscape and cityscape. Do I now consider this lens? It's cheaper yes, but will the Zeiss perform better for landscapes?
Kai is referring to the tip of the front. But both of you are mistaken anyway. Plastic is better at shock protection than metal. A metal filter thread would be instantly destroyed if you bent it just a bit, whereas plastic thread is more resilient.
@@nosignal7156 Actually, I was looking at the lens body - in Kai's review , it looks a bit of a cheaper build than the 24mm which I own. Of course one would have to view it in person and I am not opposed to plastic (I have no complaints with my Tamron zooms) and, of course, the price point is lower than the 24GM
@@chryseass.5143 I would sort of trust in the other reviewers over your observation in this case. You would have a very high probability to being wrong when the others say the build quality would be the same. Keep in mind Kai would critise that 24GM you have as well, since he apparently prefers metal filter threads that pass on Shock waves directly onto the lens elements.
Hey Kai, Can you please do a comparison on best Wide Zoom for Video. Thanks 🙏🏼 -Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 -Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM -Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM Lens
Is it normal that something moves inside the lens if on turns it upside down ? Like a inside tube . I can hear it quite clearly . No other Sony lens has that . It moves if the lens if of or on the camera if the camera is switched off . Does not happen if the camera is switched on Is that normal with this lens ?
I wish Sony will make a serie of lenses for very high resolution for landscape photography, compact, rugged, with aperture ring, the 20mm 1.8 G lens looks ok, I wish for macro lenses, manual focusing, with aperture and NO stabilizer, I wish for compact and light 300mm 3.0, 400 4.5 and 500mm 5.6, off course only primes ! Thank you very much Sonu, oh I forgot, please upgrade the 55mm 1.8 with a AF on/on button (or make it in a manual focus version) plus aperture ring ;)
I been wanting a nice Sony since the A7 first came out. I was gonna buy one then i found my Leica M9. I still want one but my Leica M9 makes my testicles tingle.
@@arthshahshorts08 Seems not that far fetched. Tamron is F2.8, with very laggy and noisy autofocus... I'm not quite sure about getting it after checking many reviews online.
Kai just lost the opportunity to put a 20mm 1.8 glass to work as a photojournalist in the end, taking real close ups of someone getting robbed or arrested.
Surprisingly big for a 1.8 considering how small the 55/1.8 is. 281 vs 373 grams of weight. It must be that big front element that weighs it down and widens the housing.
This is where you go when you don't own a Sony system, but you want to see what they're doing with their optics and have a few laughs at the same time.
24mm 1,4f is still the best option it has that additional compression for more bokeh and also 1,4f, at wider lenses the difference between 1,8f and 1,4f can be felt... All in all ~20mm-28mm lenses are the most versatile on FF cameras If I had to choose one lens to have on the camera, that would probably be 24mm 1,4f :)
![Sony 20mm f1.8 - Is it that special? [PHOTO/VIDEO SAMPLES]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/J4V7_2XdfyA/mqdefault.jpg)
![Noob To Max With DRAGON REWORK In Blox Fruits [FULL MOVIE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnBMOinoOvA/mqdefault.jpg)
It's that time on RUclips where all the youtubers release their 20mm f1.8 reviews at the same time!!!
revive probably the end of the press embargo ?
You can spot the ones who were bought by the manufacturer rofl...
This is the content we love ❤️
"If you get up close enough, you'll probably enjoy the balls" -Kai
This guy knows his balls...I mean lenses.
the balls are good!
@@robharrold4417 wtf
@@robharrold4417 holy moly
This lens looks very interesting!
You should test the images from the same distance using both the 18mm and the 20mm. I saw another guy do it and came to the conclusion that the 20mm is actually more like a 19mm. See if you can duplicate his results.
Nothing can replace my zeiss loxia kit, lightweight, all metal, and small to carry around...
Metal doesn't mean good build quality (though the Loxia line has that) and the Loxia lenses are barely any lighter than this one, so those two points you just made don't really mean much.
An aperture ring with a de-click switch. Why isn't this more of a thing?
And it has pretty creamy balls.
what happened at the end :O
I think Kai just caught a robbery in progress. haha
Just London continuing to be a crime-ridden shit-hole.
@@HalfDayHero you should definitely stay out then, little american
Mayor sadik approving of multiculturalism crime.
Stuart Murray it’s just a another normal day in London
Damn I'm liking this lens but 1100€...there is definitely cheaper alternatives
Are there? I have been using the Batis 25mm f/2 for years because there were no alternatives.
probably. But I think that's where we are going with native lenses. Also the new Nikkor Z 20mm f/1.8 S costs 1100€ as well
I'm not a fan of wide-angle, but I do have a Zeiss Flektogon 20mm f/4 just in case. It's slower and not as crisp as these two, but you get absolutely zero distortion and even closer focussing for only €100 (+ an adapter if you don't already own one)
Samyang 18mm F2.8 is much cheaper. But they are different without doubt. Maybe Tamron gonna launch an alternative in 2020.
It does of course depend on your specific needs, but this blog article lists quite a few: phillipreeve.net/blog/user-guide-ultra-wideangle-lenses-sony-alpha-7-series/
39seconds in “thanks for watching - subscribe”. Who can argue with that sales pitch
Well I’ve preordered mine...
Cheers
Doc
This lens looks nice. I'm debating on this or the 24mm GM
Definitely the 24 mill!
@@PeterLindgren1 I agree!
Same problem here. I'm thinking this one so I can crop in and get 30mm for street
@@benw2751 Or crop in with the 24 and get 36mm - decisions, decisions! The 24GM is magical for street and at night and feels great on the camera. It is my best lens and the build quality spoils you for lesser -thinking this new G lens looks a bit cheap up close.
I agree with you about the 24, plus it's faster. Probably better do it all lens but the 20mm with a nifty 50 is a pretty sweet duo to me
Does it work for a sony a6500 APS C?
Great props for linking your cameraman! Collabs are where it is i guess ;)
How do you like the 20mm 1.8 vs the 24mm 1.4 GM?
i am excited to see when Kai reaches 1 Million Milestone
Superb video as always. I was about to pull the trigger and buy a Zeiss Batis 18mm for landscape and cityscape. Do I now consider this lens? It's cheaper yes, but will the Zeiss perform better for landscapes?
Awesome video Kai. Great seeing you yesterday.
Notification gang love your vid
Need more Kai videos in my life
PLASTC-THREAD : How about reinforcing it with a minimal step-up ring - or an old bras filter where you'd have first nocked-out the glas.. ?
Ordered one today and the Voigtlander 21 nokton- wonder which one i will keep?
Hello Kai, i am interested in the Anpanman learning books for children at 3:04 where can I buy it for my kids?
Good review of the pre production copy,. Kai? From what I can see it looks a bit plasticky in build quality compared to the 24 GM?
Kai is referring to the tip of the front. But both of you are mistaken anyway. Plastic is better at shock protection than metal.
A metal filter thread would be instantly destroyed if you bent it just a bit, whereas plastic thread is more resilient.
@@nosignal7156 Actually, I was looking at the lens body - in Kai's review , it looks a bit of a cheaper build than the 24mm which I own. Of course one would have to view it in person and I am not opposed to plastic (I have no complaints with my Tamron zooms) and, of course, the price point is lower than the 24GM
@@chryseass.5143 I would sort of trust in the other reviewers over your observation in this case. You would have a very high probability to being wrong when the others say the build quality would be the same. Keep in mind Kai would critise that 24GM you have as well, since he apparently prefers metal filter threads that pass on Shock waves directly onto the lens elements.
@@nosignal7156 I will make my own mind up when I get a chance to see one in person.
The question is. Do I want this or the batis 40. Tough decisions
What camera was this filmed on? Looks like a gh5
Looks awesome, but for that money, wouldn’t you prefere a more diverse 16-35 or 14-24 even? Ofcourse for a few less stops.
Please review the Canon 90d
have you notice than the lenses slide inside the objectif when there isn't in the camera ? the mine do this... i'm scared
Hey Kai,
Can you please do a comparison on best Wide Zoom for Video. Thanks 🙏🏼
-Sigma 18-35mm f1.8
-Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM
-Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM Lens
What cam and lens was used for the introduction video?
Is it normal that something moves inside the lens if on turns it upside down ? Like a inside tube . I can hear it quite clearly . No other Sony lens has that . It moves if the lens if of or on the camera if the camera is switched off . Does not happen if the camera is switched on Is that normal with this lens ?
Just a great product! Thank you for reviewing...now it is my favorite glass!
Super excited to get my hands on this lens. Thank you for this reviewer!
3:43
The light is amazing.
Just gotta find something to take photos of... :D
Would it be possible in future vids to list what camera the footage was shot on please? It would be a useful historical reference.
the 20mm looks so nice!
What about the Sigma Art 20mm 1.4 at 799?
Best moment of the video with the robbery at 5:50.
I'm told that this happens all the time in London now.
Kai who was the person filming you.
its in the description :/
What Lumix camera was this filmed on?
Love that the aperture ring is already scratched.
nice video kai.. im not really a fan of wide angle lens though.
Sorry if i missed it in the video but what camera is that?
WTF! Still not a million subs?! Bloody hell!
Straightforward review, I like that
come on youtube suggest me 5 same videos about 20mm f/1.8 and all are uploaded 20mins ago
I wish Sony will make a serie of lenses for very high resolution for landscape photography, compact, rugged, with aperture ring, the 20mm 1.8 G lens looks ok, I wish for macro lenses, manual focusing, with aperture and NO stabilizer, I wish for compact and light 300mm 3.0, 400 4.5 and 500mm 5.6, off course only primes ! Thank you very much Sonu, oh I forgot, please upgrade the 55mm 1.8 with a AF on/on button (or make it in a manual focus version) plus aperture ring ;)
Lok looks strange today
I been wanting a nice Sony since the A7 first came out. I was gonna buy one then i found my Leica M9. I still want one but my Leica M9 makes my testicles tingle.
which lense is best for video? vlogging etc.
Hey Kai, I just wonder whether you authorized somebody to reupload your video to bilibili?
Did you try it out for video?
I love the chaotic ending.
oh no...another 20mill extravaganza
I love my sigma 20mm f1.4 ... the best close up sort of macros but nots i did where with that lense, crazy inknow but they look eeeepic
Lens looks good, just wish canon would release a 20mm 1.8 for the RF mount
What about Tokina Firin 20mm 2.0 compare to the sony?
Recommendations on what ND filters to use worh this lens....
Bokehliscious! Impressive stuff that Sony's been putting out recently
Should keep the hot shoe on your A73 covered .Some rain could fry it
holsteincowboy it’s weatherproof.....
Could you please Compare this lens to the tokina 2.0
The question is: “What’s going on at the end?” 😂
Damn that background is really sharp xD
846k. Let’s get to 1mill. Come on guys!
@Kai W are you heading to the 2020 photography show ?
Nice camera
Do you still use the zcam e2c I just orderd one waht is your review after a while of use
Kai you are the best🤙
Who is filming you???
Really awesome video, most of my camera gears and equipment are due to your reviews. Real reason why Im broke actually but in a goodway.
Yeaaaahh! I wanted that lens, it's going to sell like croissants. Thank You Sony 👏👍
why a 20mm and not a 14mm or 16mm?
Very unexpected lens! I was on the fence for Tamron 20mm. This one might be better. Hope it's not insanely expensive...
Lol tamron 499$ Sony gm 20mm 1200$ 🤣😀
B&H has this listed as $900
@@arthshahshorts08 Seems not that far fetched. Tamron is F2.8, with very laggy and noisy autofocus... I'm not quite sure about getting it after checking many reviews online.
Kai just lost the opportunity to put a 20mm 1.8 glass to work as a photojournalist in the end, taking real close ups of someone getting robbed or arrested.
多谢晒！终于唔洗练听力了
@2:07 that girl smiling like "imma bout to be in a Kai Wong video."
I love the lens!
Surprisingly big for a 1.8 considering how small the 55/1.8 is.
281 vs 373 grams of weight. It must be that big front element that weighs it down and widens the housing.
5:01 as long as you're not close enough to smell the balls xD
This is where you go when you don't own a Sony system, but you want to see what they're doing with their optics and have a few laughs at the same time.
Wouldn’t the competition be the Sigma 20mm f1.8?
1:18 wobbly footage
24mm 1,4f is still the best option it has that additional compression for more bokeh and also 1,4f, at wider lenses the difference between 1,8f and 1,4f can be felt...
All in all ~20mm-28mm lenses are the most versatile on FF cameras If I had to choose one lens to have on the camera, that would probably be 24mm 1,4f :)
Mmm, not wide enough though
Not as wide though and bigger
Why is the weather so bad? Downey California
Thats a good day. if you can take a good pic in London, you'll be alright almost anywhere else
3:15
When you realize you are seeing the world through a lens ;-)
not worth it when u got the 24mm 1.4 available.
Kai's whole demeanour makes me laugh. He makes pathetic at attempts at humour which are pretty funny
no landscapes?
It maybe has vignetting... Or maybe not. Can't see that with all the spots... Clean that sensor Kai!
wow! really wide! I just presented a 35mm 1.4 on my channel
The background is razer sharp for the whole video...
Ooh this lens is interesting!
I'm impressed that you can talk about weird things in public, I'm not brave enough to say that I like round and smooth balls outside
Ty Kai.
For the record, you are handsome.
Thank you for using my favorite British term...Bollocks.
This guys got jokes! makes me miss london too.
where is lok?
On what crop is it 40??
Olympic Games pre training at 5:54 haha~