I like Star Wars but I totally agree with the lack of emotional resonance in the movies. It always cracks me up that Luke does not give a shit that his aunt and uncle are killed. I really just enjoy them as campy fun space movies.
I don't think it's that they have no reaction to these things, I think it's more just that they express their reactions in completely different ways due to drastically different cultural norms and/or fictional standards of the those times versus today. Also, please, kindly remember just how new psychology is to being widely popularized and/or accepted as being actual valid/legitimate/real/respected/reputable field of study and not just essentially new-age quack science in many people's minds.😅🙃👀 But, yeah, first and foremost they are action/adventure space-romps. Lol
Science Fiction lover here. I literally became a science teacher because of my love of Science Fiction and Star Wars. lol. Women can absolutely love this genre. ❤
A girl who loves both scifi and romance 🙋♀️ Honestly I just love both in different ways, I get different things out of the reading experience. I think it's good to go into scifi with the right mindset and expectations, it's not about the deep character work usually but about ideas.
Ditto! Romance is always my first true love, but I really enjoy sci-fi as well. Not all of it, but that’s the same romance. There’s bad books in every genre.
Exactly this. There's a reason they're different genres - broadly speaking they have different approaches to storytelling (though they also mix just fine too, there's plenty of romance fiction with sci-fi elements and/or vice versa). And of course as even this video points out "sci-fi" is _almost_ so broad as to be meaningless. Sure, "Star Trek" is sci-fi (and maybe what a lot of people new to the genre think of) but so are "1984", "Frankenstein" and "The Handmaid's Tale". (despite the heavy emphasis in the video though "Star Wars" _isn't_ sci-fi, except in its trappings. As a general rule, if It's got space wizards then it's science fantasy IMO :)
What you said about sf exploring humanity: one of the biggest arguments of sf literature by sf scholars is that sf works to hold up a mirror to our own world. While sf might take place in the future a lot of the time, the commentary of its books are usually directed at our present time. Or, as my PhD advisor says, "SF is not about people." Instead, a lot of scholars believe it's about humanity, the human race, our world, and how we've constructed it and how we might construct it better in the future. So you're absolutely right--that's one of the defining traits of the genre. It often invites the reader to take on a reflective and contemplative reading attitude because it is trying to say big, profound things most of the time.
I think the star wars movies have a lot of that lack of emotional content because of the time that they were made. It’s definitely that 70s tough guy I don’t want to see crying i just want to see action
You absolutely have to watch the Expanse series. I think it's some of the best television I've ever seen. My husband and I watched the first 3 seasons, then plunked one kid down and watched it again, and then grabbed the last two kids and watched it AGAIN. It's soooo good, and if you liked the book, you'll find they did an amazing job of adapting it to the screen.
I really enjoyed Becky chambers books , the first one in the series being a long way to a small, angry planet. It's definitely a series that explores humanity and relationships and I really enjoyed it.
Hey! My husband and I had a chat about why more men read scifi than women and while I don't necessarily think that's true, the reasons that I came up with are similar to what you expressed. Much of fantasy and scifi are very male centric and a lot of female characters are poorly written but there are some amazing sci fi books, many written by women! I think the Broken Earth trilogy is a great example of this. It's written by NK Jemisin and is amazing.
In the Star Wars universe, I really like Rogue One and Andor. They feel much more serious and impactful! 🙂 ...for a sci-fi book rec, I really enjoyed Solaris by Stanislaw Lem, it is what I would call a psychological sci-fi novel, very interesting! 🙂
I need humor in my Sci-Fi.. like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy or The Murderbot Diaries, both of which I love. Sci-Fi can be great, but it has such a tendency to take itself too seriously, it's generally better when the story is told with a light touch. I'd also say that it's a genre that's uniquely suited to shorter novels or novellas.
I definitely think you could get into sci-fi. Especially if we consider that sci-fi, like fantasy, has different levels to it. I think softer, more social sci-fi where the characters and how they’re affected by the sci-fi elements takes center stage would be a good starter. There’s also cozy sci-fi like Becky Chambers’ works that’s more found family and interpersonal.
Hope no one hates me for this. I tried to check, but didn't find if anyone already said it. Star wars is not Sci-fi, it's Science fantasy. Just happens to be in space. Loved the video though! I LOVE new original creative ideas you have! and going outside of comfort zone.
My favorite book/science fiction book is Frankenstein. I do have to agree I tend to prefer female writers for science fiction, like Ursula Le Guin. I also think you might enjoy The Martian since you liked Project Hail Mary
Neil Gaiman has a really wonderful essay on the purpose of Science Fiction that he wrote for an anniversary of Fahrenheit 451. A must read if you’re interested in discovering the purpose of the genre!
So funny hearing you say that most girls get into Science Fiction from their father because I got into Science Fiction because my mom is a big fan of the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov ❤
I got into fantasy via reading and loving lots of fairy tales, myths, folk tales etc as a kid. The transition to reading the Hobbit was very natural. I got into science fiction as a kid by reading a Russian (Soviet) series about a girl who travels the space with her dad, gets into a ton of adventures, has a machine that allows her to read minds, time travels etc. I read some science fiction classics later on, including Dune (just the 1st volume) and enjoyed it quite a lot as a Uni student. Watched Star Wars when I got the chance and became a big fan. Watched Star Trek TNG religiously for many years. For a long time, I counted the 2nd volume of the Ender series and some of Ursula K LeGuin’s work as my all time favorite books. Now, in my early 40s, I don’t know if I would have the patience to read such dry prose again in such a long format. Sci-fi has always been trying to separate itself from fantasy by inserting lots of philosophical themes and conversations, and sometimes that works amazingly well, challenges your belief systems etc, and sometimes it sounds freaking obnoxious and “I’m smarter than you”. Sometimes it just gratuitous action and it’s superficial and forgettable. I still dabble in it from time to time, though, there is a lot of potential in this genre. It allows the combination of entertaining action and adventure, exploration the desire for which is kind of ingrained in us, with the potential of raising and discussing heavy topics, dissecting our real life issues through the lenses of imagination.
@@orladdinit’s by Kit Bulychev and it’s called Alisa Selezneva, by the name of the main character. I’m not sure what is translated into English, though
The best Star Wars movie is Rogue One and the best series is Andor. Idc, the Star Wars fan boys can fight me. I do enjoy the OG trilogy but nostalgia does probably have a lot to do with it, since I was one of the girlies whose dad showed it to us when we were growing up. It's interesting, I like watching sci-fi, but I really haven't picked it up in my reading.
So happy you loved Annie Bot it was my favorite read in a long while. Space opera is just one subgenre of sci fi so if it’s not your jam there’s lots more to explore. I dnfd leviathan wakes because of Millers heinous cop voice but maybe I’ll give it another go sometime. Like you I like when the premise serves to give an alternate perspective on an element of humanity vs what can be done in say contemporary fiction (which tends to bore me 😅). I do also have a love hate with historical fiction but just finished Matrix by Lauren Groff and I think you would dig it.
My hot take on sci fi is that the reason men tend to like sci fi more than women do is bc so much popular sci fi is simply trash but men don’t care as long as they can project them selves into the chosen one main character role (since so many sci fi main characters are men)
My hot take on romance fiction is that the reason women tend to like romance fiction more than men do is bc so much popular romance fiction is simply trash but women don’t care as long as they can project themselves into the main character role (since so many romance fiction main characters are women).
Sci-fi fan here who didn’t start loving sci-fi bc of starwars. More I read popular space operas and I loved the grand stories and just fell into the genre as a whole. I like sci-fi books because it gives me what is missing in starwars or other sci-fi adaptations that don’t quite reach full enjoimnet
I loved this video! I’m so excited for the video concept about exploring other genres that maybe didn’t work for you. Also, I love that a lot of girls found their love of science fiction from their dads! I never thought about this much, but in my home, my mom was the one who loved it. She adored the Dune books, Star Trek, and basically lived off the sci fi channel. I have always loved fantasy books growing up, and sci fi was escapism for me too in a different setting than fantasy. I think that combined with an early introduction from my mom naturally led me to enjoy the genre (although I don’t think it will ever replace fantasy or romance for me, especially in books), but I also tend to prefer watching it on the screen. And I’m a huge fan of The Expanse. I highly recommend the show, especially the early seasons.
Check out the Innkeeper Chronicles by Ilona Andrews (who wrote the Burn for Me trilogy). It's sort of a Sci-Fi/Fantasy/Romance mash up and I really think you'd enjoy it!
I think what makes the Star Wars and Dune movies fun for me personally is that they're not just sci-fi but they're *space operas*. I also find the prequel movies more fun bc they were the first ones I watched as a kid and Hayden Christensen in Revenge of the Sith just does smth for me 😂. I would love to see a video like this on adult fantasy! Idk what it is but it feels so difficult to find smth with a balance of intricate world building and exciting plot points as well as a healthy dose of "for the girls".
if we're talking sci fi, i feel obligated to mention my favorite, also just a fav series in general across all genres- The First Sister trilogy by Linden A. Lewis very queer and diverse, technically a space opera i think, very action-packed with unbelievable twists but i still got so attached to the characters and the relationships they have with each other, so much so it brought me to tears on multiple counts. cannot recommend it enough came back to add there are rly interesting explorations of female autonomy, religion, and identity as it pertains to synthetic/robotic life, questions about war and the greater good, etc. so lots of philosophical stuff going on
Since you said you like non-spacey character-focused sci-fi (and I remember you saying in previous video that you like John Green), I recommend reading "An Absolutely Remarkable Thing" by Hank Green. It's a contemporary sci-fi duology set on earth that I actually think you might really dig. I would also recommend "This is How You Lose the Time War" by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone. It's interplanetary but the epistolary format keeps the worldbuilding very lite. It's sapphic ❤ Final rec would be "The Space Between Worlds" by Micaiah Johnson. Title makes it sound spacey but it's actually about parallel worlds. And it's also sapphic.
The beginning of dune of the book is tough once u get past that it gets better but yeh it’s a rough read if ur new to sci fi props for trying though it’s a heavy read ..
For TV I highly highly recommend the Expanse and Star Trek: TNG. Both are fascinating (the Expanse is more based in close to real science) and display a lot of emotional intelligence. I love media where people apologize and are competent but reasonably fallible which these both have in spades. The Expanse I would watch as a whole but skip the first season and just read a synopsis and I'd just watch the best episodes of TNG, particularly Darmok. Star Trek: Lower Decks is also fantastic. Plus, the new Fallout TV show is great and a good sample of what the games can be. Also highly recommend Starstruck from Dimension 20, which was the first sci-fi thing I watched independently and loved. It's my absolute favorite of the D20 seasons. In general, I find that sci-fi media that is based in or pulls references from the southern/SE US are more emotionally attuned and have more resonant themes (for me). In that vein, a fun, 90s Disney gem is the Rocketeer which is similar in vibes to the Mummy, but I hesitate to make that comparison given how beloved the Mummy is. For that matter, technically Frankenstein is sf and it's awesome in most any format. For books, I have friends that LOVE Amberlough (if Cabaret was sf) but it wasn't for me for whatever reason.
My favorite star wars movies are the latest, people are just nostalgic thinking about the first movies lol its what i think at least, aaand I love Reylo so... haha
I think Harrison Ford agreed with you about the dialogue in Star Wars tbh. I remember reading that he threatened to tie George Lucas to a chair and make him recite the lines.
I love the third star wars trilogy, I actually read the novelizations because I wanted more from Rey and Kylo lol. But I also have zero attachment to the original movies. I watched all of them for the first time during lockdown and I will never suffer through the first trilogy ever again. I liked the second one better, though it was kind of whacky.
If you’re wanting some fantasy for the girls, gays, and theys I highly recommend the Locked Tomb series by Tamsyn Muir. Lots of good shipping content, dynamic characters, an interesting magic system, and some really interesting ideas about gender. It’s a very strange series of books but I really adore them.
This video was so cool :D I went through the same thought process last year. I wanted to venture out genre-wise and read something else than romance and literary stuff. I know that I'm not a high fantasy girly, I tried, so I thought mhmmm science fiction might be cool (also, my husband loves it, he's an engineer, he likes tech and space ^^) I tried the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as a Sci-Fi classic and hated it 🥲 but I didn't want to give up and hopped on the Becky Chambers train - which I highly recommend, her books are awesome. So, I feel really validated by you that Sci-Fi written by women might be more appealing to us girlies 🥰 I, however, love Murderbot 😅 and I also have Annie Bot on my TBR.
I loved this so, so much! I'm definitely one that hasn't been super interested in sci-fi, and a lot of that is because it feels too smart for me 😂 I'm definitely going to be giving it another shot after this, though! I loved reading Ender's Game when I was younger (I need to re-read it, but from what I remember, totally recommend!) and I've been meaning to read Red Rising because I've heard so many good things about it 💛
I haven’t even watched the video but CHANDLER the color of that SHIRT is EVERYTHING 😍 omg. I don’t know if you’ve fallen down the Color Season hole but I would loooove to know what yours is. You’re glowinggg 😊
I’m the girlfriend who is trying to get my boyfriend to read Leviathan Wakes 😂 I LOVE the series so much, though the ending of book one wasn’t my fav (didn’t like Miller’s ‘relationship’ with the girl) but alas, love the books overall and I’m only on book three so I’m counting that as a win for me. I DO need to read more sci-fi, but I truly do enjoy the genre ☺️
I just wanna chime in that, even though I love the original Star Wars trilogy, I wouldn't characterize it as science-fiction at all, much less a quintessential sci-fi. I mean, it takes place in space, but that in and of itself isn't enough to make a work part of the genre IMO. It's more of a space opera/fantasy/old-fashioned adventure serial type story.
I am, like you, at heart a romance reader ... but I LOVE sci-fi. But as with any genre, there are some I like and some I don't. I've read Dune. I actually read it years ago before the first movie came out. I was confused until I watched that movie. Then I went back and read it again and I actually got so much more out of it. The thing is that I think you are correct in that sometimes you need to "see" it because I find that one of the things that lacks a bit in sci-fi is the showing versus telling. So much world building has to happen that I do feel it lacks at times. I have Leviathon Wakes but haven't read it yet, based on your video I am going to move it up on my TBR. So, as a side note, I love both genres so much that I'm writing a space opera romance ... so there you go, killing to birds with one stone :) LOL
Chandler I am begging you to read Hyperion Okay let me explain why: it has six stories that interrelate, and you figure out a mystery and the lore as you read. The stories are very emotionally resonant, include romance and action and horror and sci Fi, all set in sort of a space opera against a big mysterious bad guy. The downside is that it makes you feel dumb for the first 20 pages or so but once you get through that it’s such a fun ride.
I tend not to gravitate towards sci-fi, but I picked up Annie bot and really appreciated it, so now I’m kind of open to trying more. I think I feel the same way about sci-fi in space versus not so I’ll have to find more that give Annie bot vibes instead
I will start off by saying I’m a huge Star Wars fan. In fact my son is named Anakin. I first got into the franchise through the clone wars series and then watched the movies. The movies do have a lack of emotion. The animated series of Star Wars are so incredibly underrated. Highly recommend the clone wars and rebels! I also love Star Trek.
Unpopular opinion my fav star wars movie is episode 2 ! And I don't feel much about the first trilogy and I don't hate the new trilogy. But then i was born in 2002 so i have the nostalgia factor that makes me love the prelogy even more
Not done with the video yet, so so sorry if you don't like scifi after all, but if you would like some stellar books (written by women!) These Burning Start by Bethany Jackobs had me by the throat with the plot twist and Ursula K. Le Guins books are so well written I was gagging while reading them. And Murderbot is genderless, os it could be a man! It could be a woman! It is whatever you want to be :)
If you didn't like the lack of an emotional core in Episode 4 (which I agree with, I also find it particularly emotionless and boring at times) then you need to watch Rogue One. It's set before Episode 4 and it's the only Star Wars media that has made me cry. I've also never found Darth Vader particularly scary until his appearance in Rogue One (if you know you know).
Classical Science-Fiction (literature) _for sure_ has a *lot* in common with Literary Fiction, in that they both tend to exist primarily to make certain points or observations or hypotheses or such. You are NOT wrong there! Like that Fahrenheit one (I always forget the exact numbers used in that title) and such. Unless you go more into specifically the Space Opera style or tradition of sci-fi, where it's a little less about the tech and/or the current direction of society and the potential future fate of humanity/etcetera or whatever.😊
im a girlie who likes sci-fi and i agreed with all your takes on these books/franchises. i think star wars is boring but i loooove hard sci fi written by women. recs: the ministry of time by kalaine bradley just out of jupiter’s reach by nnedi okorafor on a sunbeam by tillie walden anything becky chambers writes anything by octavia butler
Have you tried watching the show The Expanse? It’s based on the book James S. A. Corey which I actually didn’t know until watching this video and realizing that I knew the story haha. The show is pretty good, maybe interesting for your husband also!
as a girl who can enjoy sci fi, the phantom menace was the most boring star wars film out of all of them to me. However, the other two films in the prequel trilogy are so entertaining that it's almost an anomaly. And if I didn't have someone to show me that I just need to get through the first one in order to see how fun the last two are, I wouldn't have even given them a chance.
Might have to check out Anniebot. I also was let down by All Systems Red. I expected so much and then found it so mid. Maybe the series gets better? If you haven’t read The Space Between Worlds it is a pretty good sci fi written by a woman with a bit of sapphic romance. Also space is super sexy! Look at Hubble pictures, it’s amazing! 😅
If you want to try more sci-fi written by a woman, give Linnea Sinclair a try 🤐 there are hits and misses, and i can't remember if there was anything problematic with them 😅 But there are generally strong female characters, interesting side characters, and tortured/angsty love interests. The trifecta 😂 Gabriel's Ghost was the one that got me started on her books.
I tried watching Dune 3 times and have fallen asleep every time. Now Dune 2 I could watch because it felt more in the action, new characters and inklings of romance….. now Star Wars I have also fallen asleep every time I try to watch the first one. I’ve seen I think most of, I think it’s called Return of the Sixth? That was good. The score in the films is good, Dune also has a brilliant score but yeah these types of sci fi aren’t my thing. However, does ready player one, tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, blade runner and things similar to this, I thought was sci fi? I enjoyed. I really liked this vlog. Love ya! ❤️😸 (I’ve heard great things about red rising but reverently found out it’s not a trilogy and don’t know if I can commit to the series still being written🙃)
Your synopsis of Anniebot sounds a lot like the tv show Humans. That show had a lot of the same themes. Once a robot is advanced enough to think autonomously and have feelings is it human? And is it moral to treat sentient beings who have feelings as property (slaves)? Should we treat non-humans humanely? I don’t think I finished the show but the first couple of seasons were fascinating. I love Star Wars. I think your review of the original movie is valid. But it’s nostalgic for me. I remember my entire family went to see The Empire Strikes back on Christmas Even when it was released. And then we did it again when they released The Force Awakens on Christmas Eve. It’s the only movie that the entire family could agree to see.
I feel like Star Wars has the same type of nostalgia connected to it as Harry Potter. If you feel in love with the series as a kid then it will hold up for you, if you watch it for the first time as an adult then it's mid at best.
The only science fiction I have really liked (apart from time travel) is West world. Have you seen that show? It’s actually pretty good. Not space related sci fi. It’s robot/AI
Fun experiment. I'd recommend Ursula Le Guin (e.g. "The Left Hand of Darkness"), Becky Chambers' "wayfarers" books (space opera with a heart), "The Hierarchies" by Ros Anderson (which sounds a _bit_ like "Annie Bot") and "The Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood. Those are much better representations of [what I think of as] sci-fi than e.g. "Star Wars".
Honestly sci-fi books are often dry because of all the world building that has to get done, especially if it is space sci-fi. Much more of a movie space sci-fi girly. But I prefer superhero book sci-fi over superhero movie sci-fi at this point...
I too discovered Star Wars with my boyfriend after growing up without knowing anything about it, and I agree that the 4 to 6 are a bit dated… even the romance is very lackluster and representative of its era with Han Solo being very pushy and “I’m a man so you must kiss me. Even if you said no multiple times, it secretly means yes” I much preferred the 1 to 3 (I know the fans that grew up with the original trilogy are gonna scream reading this, sorry!) because there was much more emotional resonance and a real doomed romance to ship (but I’ll add that it’s a very mushy one and not very well executed) The world is so good though! I love the political machinations and all the threads converging in the end. And Ewan mcregor is one hell of British Jedi. That being said, if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, the animated series stars wars: the clone wars really dives into the events between the movie 2 and 3 and explains anakin’s downfall (that feels very rushed in the movies), while creating the best character in this whole series, ashsoka! The first season is very light-hearted, but it's get dark and emotional fast and it's very character focused. It's my favourite installment of all the movie/series made with Mandolorian and Rogue one. That’s THIS girl opinion!
For most of my life I was able to say, "I've never seen any of the Star Wars movies." Then I dated someone who was REALLY into Sci-Fi. I watched all of the Star Wars movies (episodes 1-6). And you know what? I wish I could still say that I've never seen any of the Star Wars movies.
Not to "no true Scotsman" all over the place but as a lifelong sci-fi (and FWIW, "Star Wars") fan, I don't consider "Star Wars" to be sci-fi (and i'm not alone in that). If it's got magic and space wizards it's not sci-fi IMO :). ("science-fantasy" ? "Fantasy-science" ? I dunno but something like that)
i know i'm gonna sound nuts suggesting a 1k historical fiction. ok after you signed off the video saying you have beef... but i need you to read fall of giants
You watched it in the wrong order. Episode I: The Phantom Menace. Episode II: Attack of the Clones. The Clone Wars (movie) Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. Solo: A Star Wars Story. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. Episode IV: A New Hope. Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Yeah, with Star Wars, you definitely have to try and put yourself in the shoes of past eras/generations....standards/conventions overall were drastically different then versus now. Literally no one had ever seen anything like Star Wars before, visually-speaking, and such-back when it first came out. And fiction often focused much more on plot/story than on character, rather than making story/plot out from character(s), I think. It's just major stylistic differences, honestly. George Lucas is most criticized for his dialogue though, I've heard. He doesn't do dialogue to sound like peoole speaking, he does dialogue to serve functional purposes within the story. You don't care about Leia, though, because it's not her story....it's Luke's. He doesn't know anything about her either, except she says she's in dire trouble, and he thinks he can somehow try to help because he possibly knows exactly who she was trying to reach with her hail-mary distress call or whatever that he somehow intercepted.😅😅 😂 (and this was back in the era of "boys would do literally anything for a pretty face" propaganda before things like Disney animated Mulan era kind of spearheaded or followed in the rising trend of a big ol' cultural shift or whatever 😊)
@@reneehogan6489 I’ll have to look through my kindle, but off the top of my head (for sci-fi written by black women), pretty much anything by N.K. Jemisin (particularly the Fifth Season trilogy), Nnedi Okafora (loved the Binti novellas), and Octavia Butler (especially loved the Xenogenesis, sometimes called the Lilith’s Brood trilogy, starts with Dawn). I adore pretty much everything Becky Chambers writes. Monk and Robot is a novella duology that I’d call cozy sci-fi. And her Wayfarers quartet is fantastic, also with a cozy sci-fi vice. Gail Carriger has a great new trilogy called Tinkered Songstar that’s best described as what if K-pop, but with aliens? The first book is called Divinity 36.
i’m convinced yall who says star wars lack emotional stuff are the heartless ones cause all of them got me crying at some point lol, yall are just not sci-fi girlies and it ok
I really like the original Star Wars trilogy, don't care for the prequels and actively hate the sequels (especially episode 8, that one is so bad I have no words). As for the lack of emotion, that is probably because our main hero is a man, and men need to get stuff done, they don't have time for mourning just yet, there's a literal war going on. So first, focus on the mission ahead, then mourn in privacy when everything they love and care for is saved. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is how I see these movies. The sequels tho... the writing in them is so bad and nonsensical I had to pause to rant about it every 5 minutes while watching. But to each their own, which it totally fine. But yeah, girls can love sci-fi! Project Hail Mary is my favourite book of 2023, and I also loooove works of Bradbury and brothers Strugatsky (Soviet writers who were brilliant, and not all of their books are set in space, maybe check them out).
I love how your husband 100% disassociates when not involved then gets so animated when he hears something that gets him excited 😂
I like Star Wars but I totally agree with the lack of emotional resonance in the movies. It always cracks me up that Luke does not give a shit that his aunt and uncle are killed.
I really just enjoy them as campy fun space movies.
I don't think it's that they have no reaction to these things, I think it's more just that they express their reactions in completely different ways due to drastically different cultural norms and/or fictional standards of the those times versus today. Also, please, kindly remember just how new psychology is to being widely popularized and/or accepted as being actual valid/legitimate/real/respected/reputable field of study and not just essentially new-age quack science in many people's minds.😅🙃👀
But, yeah, first and foremost they are action/adventure space-romps. Lol
@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 idk I feel like even in the 70’s I would be sad that my family died lol
Um, what do you mean there's no hot hunk in episode 1....Darth Maul is RIGHT THERE! 😂😂😂
Science Fiction lover here. I literally became a science teacher because of my love of Science Fiction and Star Wars. lol. Women can absolutely love this genre. ❤
Arrival, also directed by Dennis Villeneuve is an incredibleeee sci-fi film
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The murderbot diaries got me into sci-fi, because while it is science-fiction, its also character focused and not overly complex for no good reason
Totally agree!
A girl who loves both scifi and romance 🙋♀️
Honestly I just love both in different ways, I get different things out of the reading experience. I think it's good to go into scifi with the right mindset and expectations, it's not about the deep character work usually but about ideas.
Ditto! Romance is always my first true love, but I really enjoy sci-fi as well. Not all of it, but that’s the same romance. There’s bad books in every genre.
Exactly this. There's a reason they're different genres - broadly speaking they have different approaches to storytelling (though they also mix just fine too, there's plenty of romance fiction with sci-fi elements and/or vice versa).
And of course as even this video points out "sci-fi" is _almost_ so broad as to be meaningless. Sure, "Star Trek" is sci-fi (and maybe what a lot of people new to the genre think of) but so are "1984", "Frankenstein" and "The Handmaid's Tale".
(despite the heavy emphasis in the video though "Star Wars" _isn't_ sci-fi, except in its trappings. As a general rule, if It's got space wizards then it's science fantasy IMO :)
What you said about sf exploring humanity: one of the biggest arguments of sf literature by sf scholars is that sf works to hold up a mirror to our own world. While sf might take place in the future a lot of the time, the commentary of its books are usually directed at our present time. Or, as my PhD advisor says, "SF is not about people." Instead, a lot of scholars believe it's about humanity, the human race, our world, and how we've constructed it and how we might construct it better in the future. So you're absolutely right--that's one of the defining traits of the genre. It often invites the reader to take on a reflective and contemplative reading attitude because it is trying to say big, profound things most of the time.
Im dying at the stars wars part of this 😂 Hayden should’ve warned you that his namesake isn’t in the first movie in the middle trilogy
I think the star wars movies have a lot of that lack of emotional content because of the time that they were made. It’s definitely that 70s tough guy I don’t want to see crying i just want to see action
I mean, even in the 1990s we were still as a society teaching people that only "babies" and/or "girls" and such cried.
You absolutely have to watch the Expanse series. I think it's some of the best television I've ever seen. My husband and I watched the first 3 seasons, then plunked one kid down and watched it again, and then grabbed the last two kids and watched it AGAIN. It's soooo good, and if you liked the book, you'll find they did an amazing job of adapting it to the screen.
I really enjoyed Becky chambers books , the first one in the series being a long way to a small, angry planet. It's definitely a series that explores humanity and relationships and I really enjoyed it.
Same, I also really like to be taught if fortunate by her
Hey! My husband and I had a chat about why more men read scifi than women and while I don't necessarily think that's true, the reasons that I came up with are similar to what you expressed. Much of fantasy and scifi are very male centric and a lot of female characters are poorly written but there are some amazing sci fi books, many written by women! I think the Broken Earth trilogy is a great example of this. It's written by NK Jemisin and is amazing.
In the Star Wars universe, I really like Rogue One and Andor. They feel much more serious and impactful! 🙂 ...for a sci-fi book rec, I really enjoyed Solaris by Stanislaw Lem, it is what I would call a psychological sci-fi novel, very interesting! 🙂
I need humor in my Sci-Fi.. like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy or The Murderbot Diaries, both of which I love. Sci-Fi can be great, but it has such a tendency to take itself too seriously, it's generally better when the story is told with a light touch. I'd also say that it's a genre that's uniquely suited to shorter novels or novellas.
I also liked Annie Bot a lot. I think the pacing is just really well done! It moves so fast and uses suspense really well
I definitely think you could get into sci-fi. Especially if we consider that sci-fi, like fantasy, has different levels to it. I think softer, more social sci-fi where the characters and how they’re affected by the sci-fi elements takes center stage would be a good starter. There’s also cozy sci-fi like Becky Chambers’ works that’s more found family and interpersonal.
Hope no one hates me for this. I tried to check, but didn't find if anyone already said it. Star wars is not Sci-fi, it's Science fantasy. Just happens to be in space. Loved the video though! I LOVE new original creative ideas you have! and going outside of comfort zone.
Hah, well don't hate _me_ either but I just said the same thing before seeing your comment - if it's got space wizards it's not sci-fi IMO :).
Science fantasy really isn’t recognized enough
My favorite book/science fiction book is Frankenstein. I do have to agree I tend to prefer female writers for science fiction, like Ursula Le Guin. I also think you might enjoy The Martian since you liked Project Hail Mary
Neil Gaiman has a really wonderful essay on the purpose of Science Fiction that he wrote for an anniversary of Fahrenheit 451. A must read if you’re interested in discovering the purpose of the genre!
Ooh I love Neil Gaiman and really enjoyed Fahrenheit 451, I’m gonna check this out. Thanks
Two sci-fi authors that include good emotional content are Becky Chambers and Mary Robinette Kowal.
Expanse is the best and has really nice physics ideas behind it :)
So funny hearing you say that most girls get into Science Fiction from their father because I got into Science Fiction because my mom is a big fan of the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov ❤
I got into fantasy via reading and loving lots of fairy tales, myths, folk tales etc as a kid. The transition to reading the Hobbit was very natural. I got into science fiction as a kid by reading a Russian (Soviet) series about a girl who travels the space with her dad, gets into a ton of adventures, has a machine that allows her to read minds, time travels etc. I read some science fiction classics later on, including Dune (just the 1st volume) and enjoyed it quite a lot as a Uni student. Watched Star Wars when I got the chance and became a big fan. Watched Star Trek TNG religiously for many years. For a long time, I counted the 2nd volume of the Ender series and some of Ursula K LeGuin’s work as my all time favorite books. Now, in my early 40s, I don’t know if I would have the patience to read such dry prose again in such a long format. Sci-fi has always been trying to separate itself from fantasy by inserting lots of philosophical themes and conversations, and sometimes that works amazingly well, challenges your belief systems etc, and sometimes it sounds freaking obnoxious and “I’m smarter than you”. Sometimes it just gratuitous action and it’s superficial and forgettable. I still dabble in it from time to time, though, there is a lot of potential in this genre. It allows the combination of entertaining action and adventure, exploration the desire for which is kind of ingrained in us, with the potential of raising and discussing heavy topics, dissecting our real life issues through the lenses of imagination.
What was the name of that soviet series? it sounds great
@@orladdinit’s by Kit Bulychev and it’s called Alisa Selezneva, by the name of the main character. I’m not sure what is translated into English, though
The best Star Wars movie is Rogue One and the best series is Andor. Idc, the Star Wars fan boys can fight me. I do enjoy the OG trilogy but nostalgia does probably have a lot to do with it, since I was one of the girlies whose dad showed it to us when we were growing up.
It's interesting, I like watching sci-fi, but I really haven't picked it up in my reading.
So happy you loved Annie Bot it was my favorite read in a long while. Space opera is just one subgenre of sci fi so if it’s not your jam there’s lots more to explore. I dnfd leviathan wakes because of Millers heinous cop voice but maybe I’ll give it another go sometime. Like you I like when the premise serves to give an alternate perspective on an element of humanity vs what can be done in say contemporary fiction (which tends to bore me 😅). I do also have a love hate with historical fiction but just finished Matrix by Lauren Groff and I think you would dig it.
I haven't finished the video yet but if no one suggested Gideon the Ninth...it's a locked room, horror, sci-fi mash up. And it's ridiculously funny.
My hot take on sci fi is that the reason men tend to like sci fi more than women do is bc so much popular sci fi is simply trash but men don’t care as long as they can project them selves into the chosen one main character role (since so many sci fi main characters are men)
My hot take on romance fiction is that the reason women tend to like romance fiction more than men do is bc so much popular romance fiction is simply trash but women don’t care as long as they can project themselves into the main character role (since so many romance fiction main characters are women).
Sci-fi fan here who didn’t start loving sci-fi bc of starwars. More I read popular space operas and I loved the grand stories and just fell into the genre as a whole. I like sci-fi books because it gives me what is missing in starwars or other sci-fi adaptations that don’t quite reach full enjoimnet
I loved this video! I’m so excited for the video concept about exploring other genres that maybe didn’t work for you.
Also, I love that a lot of girls found their love of science fiction from their dads! I never thought about this much, but in my home, my mom was the one who loved it. She adored the Dune books, Star Trek, and basically lived off the sci fi channel. I have always loved fantasy books growing up, and sci fi was escapism for me too in a different setting than fantasy. I think that combined with an early introduction from my mom naturally led me to enjoy the genre (although I don’t think it will ever replace fantasy or romance for me, especially in books), but I also tend to prefer watching it on the screen.
And I’m a huge fan of The Expanse. I highly recommend the show, especially the early seasons.
I absolutely love sci fi and I definitely have my dad to thank for that
The Hierarchies was a very interesting book about a bot girl starting to learn and grow out of her original sex bot design
Check out the Innkeeper Chronicles by Ilona Andrews (who wrote the Burn for Me trilogy). It's sort of a Sci-Fi/Fantasy/Romance mash up and I really think you'd enjoy it!
I think what makes the Star Wars and Dune movies fun for me personally is that they're not just sci-fi but they're *space operas*. I also find the prequel movies more fun bc they were the first ones I watched as a kid and Hayden Christensen in Revenge of the Sith just does smth for me 😂. I would love to see a video like this on adult fantasy! Idk what it is but it feels so difficult to find smth with a balance of intricate world building and exciting plot points as well as a healthy dose of "for the girls".
I enjoy all of your videos, but this one especially was so fun!! Love that this is going to be an ongoing theme on your channel 😁
Space is inherently unsexy got me bc yes 🤣🤣🤣
if we're talking sci fi, i feel obligated to mention my favorite, also just a fav series in general across all genres- The First Sister trilogy by Linden A. Lewis
very queer and diverse, technically a space opera i think, very action-packed with unbelievable twists but i still got so attached to the characters and the relationships they have with each other, so much so it brought me to tears on multiple counts. cannot recommend it enough
came back to add there are rly interesting explorations of female autonomy, religion, and identity as it pertains to synthetic/robotic life, questions about war and the greater good, etc. so lots of philosophical stuff going on
So happy you read and enjoyed Annie Bot!! One of my favorite books this year!
Things I love: The thumbnail for this video. Project Hail Mary!
Since you said you like non-spacey character-focused sci-fi (and I remember you saying in previous video that you like John Green), I recommend reading "An Absolutely Remarkable Thing" by Hank Green. It's a contemporary sci-fi duology set on earth that I actually think you might really dig.
I would also recommend "This is How You Lose the Time War" by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone. It's interplanetary but the epistolary format keeps the worldbuilding very lite. It's sapphic ❤
Final rec would be "The Space Between Worlds" by Micaiah Johnson. Title makes it sound spacey but it's actually about parallel worlds. And it's also sapphic.
i just started watching this and hope you read The Martian 😂
The beginning of dune of the book is tough once u get past that it gets better but yeh it’s a rough read if ur new to sci fi props for trying though it’s a heavy read ..
For TV I highly highly recommend the Expanse and Star Trek: TNG. Both are fascinating (the Expanse is more based in close to real science) and display a lot of emotional intelligence. I love media where people apologize and are competent but reasonably fallible which these both have in spades. The Expanse I would watch as a whole but skip the first season and just read a synopsis and I'd just watch the best episodes of TNG, particularly Darmok.
Star Trek: Lower Decks is also fantastic. Plus, the new Fallout TV show is great and a good sample of what the games can be.
Also highly recommend Starstruck from Dimension 20, which was the first sci-fi thing I watched independently and loved. It's my absolute favorite of the D20 seasons.
In general, I find that sci-fi media that is based in or pulls references from the southern/SE US are more emotionally attuned and have more resonant themes (for me).
In that vein, a fun, 90s Disney gem is the Rocketeer which is similar in vibes to the Mummy, but I hesitate to make that comparison given how beloved the Mummy is. For that matter, technically Frankenstein is sf and it's awesome in most any format.
For books, I have friends that LOVE Amberlough (if Cabaret was sf) but it wasn't for me for whatever reason.
I’m so excited for you to watch the rest of the Star Wars movies lol. I shall join your patreon at the end of the month haha
My favorite star wars movies are the latest, people are just nostalgic thinking about the first movies lol its what i think at least, aaand I love Reylo so... haha
I think Harrison Ford agreed with you about the dialogue in Star Wars tbh. I remember reading that he threatened to tie George Lucas to a chair and make him recite the lines.
I love the third star wars trilogy, I actually read the novelizations because I wanted more from Rey and Kylo lol. But I also have zero attachment to the original movies. I watched all of them for the first time during lockdown and I will never suffer through the first trilogy ever again. I liked the second one better, though it was kind of whacky.
If you’re wanting some fantasy for the girls, gays, and theys I highly recommend the Locked Tomb series by Tamsyn Muir. Lots of good shipping content, dynamic characters, an interesting magic system, and some really interesting ideas about gender. It’s a very strange series of books but I really adore them.
This video was so cool :D I went through the same thought process last year. I wanted to venture out genre-wise and read something else than romance and literary stuff. I know that I'm not a high fantasy girly, I tried, so I thought mhmmm science fiction might be cool (also, my husband loves it, he's an engineer, he likes tech and space ^^) I tried the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as a Sci-Fi classic and hated it 🥲 but I didn't want to give up and hopped on the Becky Chambers train - which I highly recommend, her books are awesome. So, I feel really validated by you that Sci-Fi written by women might be more appealing to us girlies 🥰 I, however, love Murderbot 😅 and I also have Annie Bot on my TBR.
I loved this so, so much! I'm definitely one that hasn't been super interested in sci-fi, and a lot of that is because it feels too smart for me 😂 I'm definitely going to be giving it another shot after this, though! I loved reading Ender's Game when I was younger (I need to re-read it, but from what I remember, totally recommend!) and I've been meaning to read Red Rising because I've heard so many good things about it 💛
You like character conflict and emotional moments in your space fiction? You’re gonna love Star Trek: The Next Generation!
I haven’t even watched the video but CHANDLER the color of that SHIRT is EVERYTHING 😍 omg. I don’t know if you’ve fallen down the Color Season hole but I would loooove to know what yours is. You’re glowinggg 😊
i’m a dark winter :)
I’m the girlfriend who is trying to get my boyfriend to read Leviathan Wakes 😂 I LOVE the series so much, though the ending of book one wasn’t my fav (didn’t like Miller’s ‘relationship’ with the girl) but alas, love the books overall and I’m only on book three so I’m counting that as a win for me. I DO need to read more sci-fi, but I truly do enjoy the genre ☺️
I just wanna chime in that, even though I love the original Star Wars trilogy, I wouldn't characterize it as science-fiction at all, much less a quintessential sci-fi. I mean, it takes place in space, but that in and of itself isn't enough to make a work part of the genre IMO. It's more of a space opera/fantasy/old-fashioned adventure serial type story.
"Science fantasy" seems a fairly common label for what "Star Wars" is but yep, agreed.
I am, like you, at heart a romance reader ... but I LOVE sci-fi. But as with any genre, there are some I like and some I don't. I've read Dune. I actually read it years ago before the first movie came out. I was confused until I watched that movie. Then I went back and read it again and I actually got so much more out of it. The thing is that I think you are correct in that sometimes you need to "see" it because I find that one of the things that lacks a bit in sci-fi is the showing versus telling. So much world building has to happen that I do feel it lacks at times. I have Leviathon Wakes but haven't read it yet, based on your video I am going to move it up on my TBR. So, as a side note, I love both genres so much that I'm writing a space opera romance ... so there you go, killing to birds with one stone :) LOL
Chandler I am begging you to read Hyperion
Okay let me explain why: it has six stories that interrelate, and you figure out a mystery and the lore as you read. The stories are very emotionally resonant, include romance and action and horror and sci Fi, all set in sort of a space opera against a big mysterious bad guy. The downside is that it makes you feel dumb for the first 20 pages or so but once you get through that it’s such a fun ride.
haden loves that series :) might try it at some point
The prequel trillogy is way better than the orig trig. It is a complex character exploration and 4-6 are just Dambuster fanfiction
I like science fiction but more of the time-travel or post-apocalyptic side 😊
I tend not to gravitate towards sci-fi, but I picked up Annie bot and really appreciated it, so now I’m kind of open to trying more. I think I feel the same way about sci-fi in space versus not so I’ll have to find more that give Annie bot vibes instead
The 1984 Dune movie is a cult classic. I know it may not appeal to a modern audience, but it is a classic to many.
my husband loves it
I will start off by saying I’m a huge Star Wars fan. In fact my son is named Anakin. I first got into the franchise through the clone wars series and then watched the movies. The movies do have a lack of emotion. The animated series of Star Wars are so incredibly underrated. Highly recommend the clone wars and rebels! I also love Star Trek.
Unpopular opinion my fav star wars movie is episode 2 ! And I don't feel much about the first trilogy and I don't hate the new trilogy. But then i was born in 2002 so i have the nostalgia factor that makes me love the prelogy even more
Not done with the video yet, so so sorry if you don't like scifi after all, but if you would like some stellar books (written by women!) These Burning Start by Bethany Jackobs had me by the throat with the plot twist and Ursula K. Le Guins books are so well written I was gagging while reading them.
And Murderbot is genderless, os it could be a man! It could be a woman! It is whatever you want to be :)
If you didn't like the lack of an emotional core in Episode 4 (which I agree with, I also find it particularly emotionless and boring at times) then you need to watch Rogue One. It's set before Episode 4 and it's the only Star Wars media that has made me cry. I've also never found Darth Vader particularly scary until his appearance in Rogue One (if you know you know).
Classical Science-Fiction (literature) _for sure_ has a *lot* in common with Literary Fiction, in that they both tend to exist primarily to make certain points or observations or hypotheses or such. You are NOT wrong there!
Like that Fahrenheit one (I always forget the exact numbers used in that title) and such.
Unless you go more into specifically the Space Opera style or tradition of sci-fi, where it's a little less about the tech and/or the current direction of society and the potential future fate of humanity/etcetera or whatever.😊
im a girlie who likes sci-fi and i agreed with all your takes on these books/franchises. i think star wars is boring but i loooove hard sci fi written by women.
recs:
the ministry of time by kalaine bradley
just out of jupiter’s reach by nnedi okorafor
on a sunbeam by tillie walden
anything becky chambers writes
anything by octavia butler
Have you tried watching the show The Expanse? It’s based on the book James S. A. Corey which I actually didn’t know until watching this video and realizing that I knew the story haha. The show is pretty good, maybe interesting for your husband also!
he’s watched it :)
as a girl who can enjoy sci fi, the phantom menace was the most boring star wars film out of all of them to me. However, the other two films in the prequel trilogy are so entertaining that it's almost an anomaly. And if I didn't have someone to show me that I just need to get through the first one in order to see how fun the last two are, I wouldn't have even given them a chance.
I would love to see your thoughts on Blade Runner. Like, watch the OG vs the newer version & let us know what you think about both.
I’ve heard some good things about leviathan wakes actually!
Might have to check out Anniebot. I also was let down by All Systems Red. I expected so much and then found it so mid. Maybe the series gets better?
If you haven’t read The Space Between Worlds it is a pretty good sci fi written by a woman with a bit of sapphic romance.
Also space is super sexy! Look at Hubble pictures, it’s amazing! 😅
i have read that one! it's fantastic
Loved this
If you want to try more sci-fi written by a woman, give Linnea Sinclair a try 🤐 there are hits and misses, and i can't remember if there was anything problematic with them 😅 But there are generally strong female characters, interesting side characters, and tortured/angsty love interests. The trifecta 😂 Gabriel's Ghost was the one that got me started on her books.
I tried watching Dune 3 times and have fallen asleep every time. Now Dune 2 I could watch because it felt more in the action, new characters and inklings of romance….. now Star Wars I have also fallen asleep every time I try to watch the first one. I’ve seen I think most of, I think it’s called Return of the Sixth? That was good. The score in the films is good, Dune also has a brilliant score but yeah these types of sci fi aren’t my thing. However, does ready player one, tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, blade runner and things similar to this, I thought was sci fi? I enjoyed. I really liked this vlog. Love ya! ❤️😸 (I’ve heard great things about red rising but reverently found out it’s not a trilogy and don’t know if I can commit to the series still being written🙃)
Your synopsis of Anniebot sounds a lot like the tv show Humans. That show had a lot of the same themes. Once a robot is advanced enough to think autonomously and have feelings is it human? And is it moral to treat sentient beings who have feelings as property (slaves)? Should we treat non-humans humanely? I don’t think I finished the show but the first couple of seasons were fascinating.
I love Star Wars. I think your review of the original movie is valid. But it’s nostalgic for me. I remember my entire family went to see The Empire Strikes back on Christmas Even when it was released. And then we did it again when they released The Force Awakens on Christmas Eve. It’s the only movie that the entire family could agree to see.
I feel like Star Wars has the same type of nostalgia connected to it as Harry Potter. If you feel in love with the series as a kid then it will hold up for you, if you watch it for the first time as an adult then it's mid at best.
The only science fiction I have really liked (apart from time travel) is West world. Have you seen that show? It’s actually pretty good. Not space related sci fi. It’s robot/AI
died laughing at the edit on 24:17
I hope you finish all of star wars... I need to know if youre a reylo shipper!
Fun experiment. I'd recommend Ursula Le Guin (e.g. "The Left Hand of Darkness"), Becky Chambers' "wayfarers" books (space opera with a heart), "The Hierarchies" by Ros Anderson (which sounds a _bit_ like "Annie Bot") and "The Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood.
Those are much better representations of [what I think of as] sci-fi than e.g. "Star Wars".
As someone who also first watched Star Wars as an adult…I did not get the hype of the first movie lol
Honestly sci-fi books are often dry because of all the world building that has to get done, especially if it is space sci-fi. Much more of a movie space sci-fi girly. But I prefer superhero book sci-fi over superhero movie sci-fi at this point...
I too discovered Star Wars with my boyfriend after growing up without knowing anything about it, and I agree that the 4 to 6 are a bit dated… even the romance is very lackluster and representative of its era with Han Solo being very pushy and “I’m a man so you must kiss me. Even if you said no multiple times, it secretly means yes”
I much preferred the 1 to 3 (I know the fans that grew up with the original trilogy are gonna scream reading this, sorry!) because there was much more emotional resonance and a real doomed romance to ship (but I’ll add that it’s a very mushy one and not very well executed)
The world is so good though! I love the political machinations and all the threads converging in the end. And Ewan mcregor is one hell of British Jedi.
That being said, if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, the animated series stars wars: the clone wars really dives into the events between the movie 2 and 3 and explains anakin’s downfall (that feels very rushed in the movies), while creating the best character in this whole series, ashsoka! The first season is very light-hearted, but it's get dark and emotional fast and it's very character focused. It's my favourite installment of all the movie/series made with Mandolorian and Rogue one. That’s THIS girl opinion!
I’m sending you love❤
have you read Red Rising? i'm just a girl, and i think the series is great!! i think it could be something you enjoy.
i didn't really love the first book sadly
For most of my life I was able to say, "I've never seen any of the Star Wars movies." Then I dated someone who was REALLY into Sci-Fi. I watched all of the Star Wars movies (episodes 1-6). And you know what? I wish I could still say that I've never seen any of the Star Wars movies.
lmaoooo
Not to "no true Scotsman" all over the place but as a lifelong sci-fi (and FWIW, "Star Wars") fan, I don't consider "Star Wars" to be sci-fi (and i'm not alone in that). If it's got magic and space wizards it's not sci-fi IMO :).
("science-fantasy" ? "Fantasy-science" ? I dunno but something like that)
i know i'm gonna sound nuts suggesting a 1k historical fiction. ok after you signed off the video saying you have beef... but i need you to read fall of giants
i feel like if i can trust anyone it's you, so i might just have to do that
wait i didn’t know you have a youtube
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You watched it in the wrong order.
Episode I: The Phantom Menace.
Episode II: Attack of the Clones.
The Clone Wars (movie)
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.
Solo: A Star Wars Story.
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.
Episode IV: A New Hope.
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Yeah, with Star Wars, you definitely have to try and put yourself in the shoes of past eras/generations....standards/conventions overall were drastically different then versus now. Literally no one had ever seen anything like Star Wars before, visually-speaking, and such-back when it first came out. And fiction often focused much more on plot/story than on character, rather than making story/plot out from character(s), I think. It's just major stylistic differences, honestly.
George Lucas is most criticized for his dialogue though, I've heard. He doesn't do dialogue to sound like peoole speaking, he does dialogue to serve functional purposes within the story.
You don't care about Leia, though, because it's not her story....it's Luke's. He doesn't know anything about her either, except she says she's in dire trouble, and he thinks he can somehow try to help because he possibly knows exactly who she was trying to reach with her hail-mary distress call or whatever that he somehow intercepted.😅😅 😂 (and this was back in the era of "boys would do literally anything for a pretty face" propaganda before things like Disney animated Mulan era kind of spearheaded or followed in the rising trend of a big ol' cultural shift or whatever 😊)
You need to read the red rising series! So good!
i didn't really enjoy the first book but i might retry at some point
@chandlerainsley I feel like it's very much like acotar where it's gets better with each book.
I vastly prefer sci-fi written by women, and specifically women of color
Would love to hear some recs!
@@reneehogan6489 I’ll have to look through my kindle, but off the top of my head (for sci-fi written by black women), pretty much anything by N.K. Jemisin (particularly the Fifth Season trilogy), Nnedi Okafora (loved the Binti novellas), and Octavia Butler (especially loved the Xenogenesis, sometimes called the Lilith’s Brood trilogy, starts with Dawn).
I adore pretty much everything Becky Chambers writes. Monk and Robot is a novella duology that I’d call cozy sci-fi. And her Wayfarers quartet is fantastic, also with a cozy sci-fi vice.
Gail Carriger has a great new trilogy called Tinkered Songstar that’s best described as what if K-pop, but with aliens? The first book is called Divinity 36.
i’m convinced yall who says star wars lack emotional stuff are the heartless ones cause all of them got me crying at some point lol, yall are just not sci-fi girlies and it ok
I dnfed dune bc it’s very sexist. Also I can’t accept old dune movie slander. It’s amazing and funny and camp
what sexism?
I really like the original Star Wars trilogy, don't care for the prequels and actively hate the sequels (especially episode 8, that one is so bad I have no words). As for the lack of emotion, that is probably because our main hero is a man, and men need to get stuff done, they don't have time for mourning just yet, there's a literal war going on. So first, focus on the mission ahead, then mourn in privacy when everything they love and care for is saved. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is how I see these movies. The sequels tho... the writing in them is so bad and nonsensical I had to pause to rant about it every 5 minutes while watching. But to each their own, which it totally fine.
But yeah, girls can love sci-fi! Project Hail Mary is my favourite book of 2023, and I also loooove works of Bradbury and brothers Strugatsky (Soviet writers who were brilliant, and not all of their books are set in space, maybe check them out).
I got into sci fi bc a boy I liked was reading Hitchhikers’s Guide to the Galaxy 🫣