Lk 24,25 is for you, because you don't want to believe in what Jesus Christ taught in John 3,3-8, John 5,24, John 6,37-40.44.63-65, John 8,34.36, John 10,11-16.26-29, John 15,16.19 and John 17.1-2.6-9. He taught these doctrines in other books too, but in the Book of John the most clearly! Roman's and Ephesians are extremely calvinistic too... So who are we to answer back to God (Rom 9,20-21)?
@Jesus.is.my.saviour bro, no one believed in anything calvin until calvin. There is no church father that ever wrote anything calvinistic. Protestantism is a man made relgion with man made traditions.
@@mew2wins919 God is love . God wants genuine love from his creation and give his creation the choice to genuinely choose otherwise it wouldn’t be love. You can’t have love without the second party responding positively to the initiators love. Otherwise it’s force. No one comes to God. God calls everyone but only those who believe are chosen. That simple.
@Mew2Wins if God has to effectually change our nature then his love for us would be based on whether he chose us or not. It would be a conditional love as opposed to the unconditional love which is taught in the Bible.
@@mew2wins919 so, according to Calvinist philosophy (that’s all it is) God does not love everyone. God only loves the elect. God doesn’t not have unconditional love for his all His creation. That is blasphemy.
@@tyronebunyon7254 Brother I appreciate your comment and I hope mine finds you in good health. I would like to ask in light of the volume of scriptures that speak of God's judgment and wrath how can you affirm that God's love is unconditional?
Ms Stuckey, I was taught this exact doctrine - verbatim - when I was growing up. I was taught that we hate God the moment we are conceived. I was taught that God wrote a few names in the Book of Life before the foundation of the world, that those few names were the people chosen for salvation, and every other person ever created in the history of the universe was doomed to hell from the moment of conception. I was taught we hate God because He hated us first. I was taught that we are condemned for the way God decreed us to be. I was taught there are tiny children and infants suffering eternally in hell. I was taught we are not even capable of placing our faith in Him; that *He* does that *for* us, and to even presume to put our faith in Him by ourselves is a sin. Do you know how old I was when I realized I was a sinner headed for hell? I was no older than 10. If I had a dime for every time a preacher described in the most graphic and frightening detail of what hell is like, I would be a very wealthy man. Conversely, I can literally count on one hand the number of times I heard any sort of description of heaven. Do you know how old I was when I realized, based on what I'd been taught, that I would go to hell when I died, and there was *absolutely* nothing I could do about it? *I was 14 years old.* I would have nightmares about Judgment Day beginning, and being condemned to hell, and I would wake up hyperventilating. Again, I was 14 years old. And I couldn't talk to anyone. I couldn't talk to my parents, because they were the ones *teaching* me this. I couldn't talk to my pastor, because my parents didn't agree with him on soteriological matters. I couldn't even talk to God, because I was convinced He didn't want me, and never loved me. I was completely, *utterly* alone. And the worst part was not even knowing that I *myself* would end up in hell. The worst part was knowing *the people I love* would also end up in hell. I distinctly remember having errant thoughts of pleading with God at the final judgment, begging him to spare my loved ones, and throw me into hell instead. For the third time I feel the need to reiterate, I was 14 years old - a mere CHILD - when I was having these thoughts. But these thoughts were always trumped by what I had been taught: God's mercy and love is reserved for a few, and *only* a few. All the rest - millions upon millions of immortal souls - are doomed, with no possibility of salvation. I was on a railroad to eternal, unimaginable suffering, along with almost everyone I loved, with absolutely positively no way out. And so I withdrew into myself. I lost interest in social interaction; I couldn't bear to make new friendships because I couldn't bear the burden of having even more loved ones in my life who would most likely go to hell. I lost interest in my education; long division and algebra wouldn't help me in hell. I lost interest in making any sort of preparations for the future. Because what was the point? I was going to hell anyway. And I lost interest in Christianity. God never wanted me, and Christ didn't die for me, so what was the point in pretending, especially since pretending was trying to attain my salvation through works, and therefore a sin? So I gave up hope, and quit. I decided to make the most of the time I had left in life, and on the last day, I would tell God that *He* made *me* like this, and what kind of just God would damn anyone to an eternity of suffering for something *He* decreed before they were ever born, and had no control over? And then I buried it deep down. I put it out of my mind. I spent the next 15 years of my life adrift. Directionless. Meaningless. Joyless. But I still couldn't escape it. As it happens in life, people I loved passed away. Expectant friends of ours suffered miscarriages. The news would run stories of sweet little children losing battles with cancer. I was convinced they all went to hell, it devastated me beyond the ability to articulate with words, and I still had no one to turn to. I am now 31, I've been going to an Orthodox church since August 25 of this year, and I am giving deep and serious thoughts toward converting. When I first walked in, I was overcome with emotion, and I was in tears throughout the service. From the moment I crossed the threshold, I knew I belonged, and even though my journey has only just begun, I have never felt more at peace and loved by God than I do now. Although I have many regrets, things I failed to do, things I missed out on, failing to return God's love when, I now know, He loved me all along, I am beginning to have faith in Him.
Surprised to read you were taught God hated you. Your formative years sound a bit like a long, long nightmare. God introduced me to Dr. J. Vernon Magee when I was struggling with my new faith in my Lord Jesus Christ. He explained predestination as God knows who will receive His Son. Everyone will have an opportunity to make a decision because God SO loved the world that He gave his Son to redeem us. Only God knows the future and, therefore, God will know who receives and who rejects. God loves us very, very much and will patiently woo us to Him. If you were to consider it like a man courting a women. After the courtship, he will declare his love and ask her to marry him. Do you believe he wants her to be his wife? It is, now, up to her to make the decision. Will she reject him or receive him? God is courting the world. He is calling out a Bride (church) for his Son.
Calvinism is a heresy but so is Orthodoxy ! I don't know if you are willing to listen to what I have to say since some people are emotionally invested in their '' new denomination '' but i'm here to tell you that orthodoxy is as false as calvinism....there is a narrow path and it's not that one....
I can relate with your story! That is why I hate the Calvinist Reformed Cult system. It cripples, maims and destroys people who are truly looking for God. I heard of some who were suicidal as they couldn't stand not knowing. Please Please go and watch these true preachers of God. They will set you free from Calvinism (on youtube) Dave Hunt "What Love is this." Soteriology 101 Dr Leighton Flowers David Pawson Moriel TV Jacob Mike Winger And remember these words from the real GOD! 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. Acts 2 :21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 This promise belongs to you and your children and to all who are far off-.... John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Truth In Love
Oh, but it IS in the Bible (many more exclamation points)! [Fun query: Does the number of exclamation points make it automatically God's Holy and Infallible Word?] LOL.
Then Jesus died for people predestined to hell????? You realize that’s the implication you’re proposing ( unconsciously I’m sure) for those he fore knew he predestined. I find people that have a hard time excepting Calvinism are usually too weak spiritually to do so .
Certainly limited atonement can be biblically proven through Bible verse exegesis. But what if you could see that the Arminian/Provisionist atonement schema was impossible? I mean impossible like you cannot get there from here impossible? Let's use both Bible passages and Bible logic. First, you yourself most definitely believe in limited atonement. Otherwise, you would believe in universal atonement. And there are some Christians, however mixed up, who believe that everyone is saved. You are a limited woman on this issue. But let's put this to the test. Pick your favorite OT lost person. Do you like Goliath? Pharoah? Ahab? Jezebel? Any will do. According to Jesus in the NT, where are these folks right now and what are they doing? They are in Hell, experiencing forever the wrath of God against them, having died in their sins, and now paying for their sinfulness throughout eternity. Now back to Jesus. If, say, Ahab is at this very moment experiencing the wrath of God forever and ever for his sins, then how could a just, righteous, and loving God force His wrath upon His Son on the cross 880 years later to pay for Ahab's sins when Ahab has been doing just that already for 880 years before Calvary? To believe that, we have the situation of Christ being crucified again, something really condemned in Hebrews 6. A/Ps love to see Jesus placed in theological double jeopardy as He suffers on the cross. Further, we also run afoul of Isaiah 53 wherein we have the depiction of the suffering servant (Jesus) seeing the travail of His soul and being satisfied. Not dissatisfied. Not worrying about Ahab still suffering for Ahab's sins despite what Jesus would attempt to do for him. And we don't have a truly angry Son of God wondering why the Father is making Him die in vain for someone in Hell forever anyway. Do you see the many problems here? In other words, Isaiah 53 is saying that Jesus is not some kind of masochist who just likes to suffer for sin; instead He suffers for the sins of a particular people, in this case, the elect. And only the elect. A limited (like you and Calvinists would both agree on) albeit large group of people. Jesus prays about this very thing in John 17 when he declines to pray for the world. And our Dear Lord is satisfied in His great work to save these elect people. The people given to Christ by the Father for salvation. Again, John 17. This one teaching from God's word destroys Arminian/Provisionism in one move since we see here from God's word that Christ did not die for everyone. He died for the elect. Have a problem with that? Talk to the judge. That will preach all day. Amen.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
I can never share your link again now that you are promoting Calvinism over Kingdom of God. Calvinism divides the body. It says, believe exactly like this - TULIP, or you’re unbiblical, not mature enough, not enlightened enough. It is the age old heresy of Gnosticism in a modern, trendy dress. The gospel is simple, we are sinners before a holy God, Jesus died for those sins, believe and be saved. Calvinism makes doctrine more important than the truth that God’s ways are greater than ours and we cannot explain the miracle of salvation. They need to be able to explain it. You’re need to promote Calvinism / doctrine instead of Jesus reveals it as the false gospel it is.
You are disoriented. You have theological vertigo. Remember when Jesus asks his disciples "who do people say that I the Son of Man am"? The disciples then and you and I now cannot begin to answer that question without being theologians. Theology sets the boundaries of our beliefs about God. Your comment above demonstrates that you have a pretty wishy washy boundary which will one day cause you to believe just about anything when it comes to Jesus Christ. Stick with a careful study of God's word, avoid the Gnosticism you have just avowed, and look unto Coram Deo, the face of Christ. God bless you in your walk with Him.
@JJ Wurtz Heck, no problem, I was being snarky myself. The Protestant (and Calvinist) claim is that WE are the Catholic Church rather than Rome. (Rome’s claims of being the original church is exactly what we’re “protesting”!) In that event, your church was “founded” in 1546 with the Council of Trent (and some would say that you were re-established in 1963 or so with Vatican II). It’s all a matter of perspective. Like Doug Wilson-a Reformed theologian-asks, “Where was your face before you washed it?” The Reformation was a face scrubbing that the “one, true church” was in desperate need of. The Protestant Church didn’t begin in 1517. The One, True Church started getting its act cleaned up then.
@JJ Wurtz There’s something you should understand. EVERY Christian on God’s green earth believes that their denomination is the “one, true church” (or, at the very least, a PART of the “one, true church”). Nobody thinks that their church was made up “on a whim” by Joe Schmo in September of 1959. All of them would say that Christ founded their church. I have absolutely no clue where you’d find the RCC in Scripture. That’s a real stretch. And, at any rate, it sounds like too Protestant of an undertaking. If you don’t “re-“ anything, then what the heck is the Catholic RE-formation? (Or don’t you study history?)
If you really believe that Jesus didn't teach these doctrines, maybe you should carefully read John 3,3-8, John 6,37-40.44.63-65, John 8,34.36. John 10,11-16.26-29, John 15,16.19 and John 17.1-2.6-9. And the Book of Roman's and Ephesians are clear as day too! I believe that he wouldn't call himself a "Calvinist", but he taught these doctrines.
Of course not, silly. John Calvin is truly Christian. Jesus is Lord of all. As a famous Baptist once put it, Calvinism is just simply historic orthodox Christianity. It is what the original Christians believed. Charles Haddon Spurgeon.
This breaks my heart. I came to this video late after just watching another video where I’m clued in about the belief in Calvinism. I do believe people who believe reformed doctrine are brothers and sisters in Christ but I believe everything they believe about the Bible and God is basically messed up because of their basic view of God and salvation. You cannot view God as they do and not have it affect the way you interpret scripture and your view of people. Everyone I know that is a Christian that has changed to believe this doctrine did NOT change for the better and that is a whole lot of people as a church I went to secretly changed their doctrine and began to preach it slowly in the church. Once it became known and they could not hide it anymore and admitted they were changing to reformed theology they distinctly changed to diff kinds of people and not in good way. Anyone who has watched this video and is now confused feeling like wait this is not the God I have known and loved and feels their spirit is recoiling at this doctrine you are not alone. Please read the book, What Love is This? By Dave Hunt. God showed me that the recoil you are feeling is sort of like the first time people smoke a cigarette and their body recoils to it and they cough and gag. That is because your body is rejecting poison, that’s what happened to me the first time I smoked, but as I pushed it my body became more used to it and didn’t reject it anymore. My body excepted the poison and then almost enjoyed it. Your spirit is rejecting this doctrine and belief about and in God but can be forced to accept it and even revel in it in a strange way. I had a Calvinist who wasn’t always one that I went to church with who felt he had to believe it even if it made him sick tell me after awhile he didn’t feel sick thinking about God this way any more, he came to respect and accept it. I prayed about it and that’s when I feel like God gave me the cigarette analogy. When you know who God is and then someone tells you that this reformed theology is truly who God is your spirit automatically at least for most people gets sick and reacts with disgust and there is a reason for that. You have heard the argument for TULIP and now if you want to read and understand the true heart of God for humanity and why this is a false doctrine read What Love is This. I thank God he led me to this book and delivered me from the snare of a false doctrine that my spirit was rebelling against. God is NOT who calvanism says He is and you can be set free from that belief ❤️❤️❤️
Amen! Calvinism does not change people for the better. I became a Calvinist because I understood the benefits of Calvinism. It was a mechanism to get my worldly desires. Very few will come to understand what Calvinism truly is because it is one of Satans craftiest tricks.
Calvinists aren’t saved they have changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image like to corruptible man. A good tree CANNOT Bring forth evil fruit Matthew 7:18
Another good book to read about this would be God's Word, the Bible. Whatever :"icky" feelings we have about this or that, we defer to what God is saying in His "living and active" Word. Heaven and earth will pass away, but God's Word will not. I would suggest Ephesians 2:8-10. By the way, I'm not a "Calivinist" myself, but wherever Calvinism agrees with God's Word, I believe.
I needed to hear this so badly. Thank you so much for sharing this as I have been struggling with going to church and not understanding why. When I read the Bible for myself and ask the Holy Spirit for help, it doesn't always match what my pastors teach and it has left me lonely and confused. Thank you.
Allie, I enjoy your podcasts so much! I have so much respect for you! I do, however, disagree with Calvinism and wish you could have Leighton Flowers on your show to discuss Calvinism vs. Traditionalism (Provisionism). Leighton is so gracious and loving. Your listeners would very much enjoy it! Bless you and your ministry!
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
It took me hour and a half to watch this video cause I kept stopping to take notes . ( which was great r cause I got to look at her face a lot ) her husband truly has found a woman of valor ,who’s worth is far beyond rubies. May all of My brothers find such favor in the Lord❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I just discovered you on Candace Owens and was so inspired by your faith, and now I find you also observe Reformed Theology! I feel like I just hit the lottery!!! I graduated with my Bachelor's in Religion for Biblical and Theological Studies last year from Liberty and while I started as a dispensationalist, I gradually became reformed as I started noticing that the texts in my more advanced courses were usually written by Calvinists so I really started diving deep into Romans and Ephesians. I was also ordained as a deacon at a reformed Church about 6 months before graduation. Now I'm a huge Spurgeon, Packer, and Piper reader... and MacArthur of course for my Study Bible. So, so truly glad I found your channel and appreciate your bravery in sharing Reformed Theology in an already hostile environment for Christianity. I pray your channel grows exponentially! Many more Christians need to understand the full meaning of their Bible.
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom. A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch. ” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.” (D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.” (E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).” (F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.” (J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.” (H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.” 5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” ( F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.” (B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm (different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost calvinists! 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Calvinism is false. It is pure gnosticism. Augustine (where these beliefs came from) was a Manichean gnostic who "converted" to the Roman church. No Christian, no Church Father believed or taught these things until Augustine in the 4th century. It was refuted and called pagan until then. Calvin was enthralled with Augustine and quoted him over 4000 times in his writing. The god of Calvinism is the the god of gnosticism. An evil twisted god who is the author of all evil things and he gets pleasure in making people do evil and then more please when he sends them to hell for what he forced them to do and he sends babies to hell (read the works of Augustine and Calvin) The God of the Bible is a perfect loving God who desires all to come to him. He says "turn to me and be saved" he weeps over Jerusalem and he came to earth and died for the sins of the WORLD.
That last bit seems to be the part most critics of the 5 points ignore. Prior to acknowledging god’s sovereignty and being awakened by the Holy Spirit, I was a non-believer... an atheist if you will. As an atheist, I got married to my wife (who was also an atheist), and while still sinners, we both always tried to live our lives as honest as possible. Then, one day, we both were simultaneously called to Christ. I always wrestled with understanding how this happened, then I came across the 5 points, and the answer became clear. It also became clear that the Holy Spirit was always there, even as we rejected God, as we went through difficult times, we persevered. We are now 16 years together and have 2 children.... completely aware that god is in control. When people ask “why do good acts if you are pre-destined” the answer is simple... doing good acts is irresistible and you simply cannot choose not to do good when god is in control. This truth brings great peace, which is the word of god.
R.C Sproul agrees 100% with John Piper and John MacArthur on this quote John Piper " God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that HE HIMSELF BRINGS ABOUT THESE EVIL aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . . So from these I take it god bars access to salvation, dooms people from the womb to destruction and brings about all evil. Heh! I quoted word for word! Its easy for you to say I am ignorant of Reformed theology and scripture. Please tell us all what these quotes mean? Jesus didn't stop calling people to Him and I will not stop either! “I love those who love me, and those who diligently seek me will find me. Proverbs 8:17 But from there, you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul. Deuteronomy 4:29 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. Luke 11:9-10 ‘You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:13 Satan Hates every verse above! His followers also hate them. The big problem is satans followers think they are defending John Calvin's gospel as they have been brain washed to see as the truth. But it is really satan's gospel they defend. Life is too short to play games. Eternity is at stake. The "ELECT" is the name for humans that have become adopted into Gods family through their repenting and being baptized. The Angels are called His Elect Angels. Once again a name for a group of Holy Angels. (Nothing to do with salvation) It is not a title for the selective, lottery salvation winners, of Calvinism. God calls Israel His “elect” or “chosen” people. It has nothing to do with salvation or every Jew would be saved. Chosen and election mean the same thing. It is always used for title of a group, or what service God has offered for you to do if you are willing. It NEVER is about salvation or condemnation by God! Salvation is available to ALL. We simply, or not so simply, have to reach out and take hold of the life preserver held out in front of us. TRUTH IN LOVE I am going to suggest you view these teachers who are truly men of God and honest in their handling of the scriptures, you will be blessed by them. They are on youtube. 1. What love is this Dave Hunt 2. Soteriology 101 Dr Leighten Flowers 3. Mike Winger 4. David Pawson 5. Moriel TV TRUTH IN LOVE
Yes! Thank you! I disagree pretty vehemently with Calvinist doctrine, but they still acknowledge that faith in Christ is the one and only thing that saves. While I disagree with their soteriological views, they are still my brothers. Romans 14 on this point is pretty clear.
@@greyknight627 Romans was written by the antichrist Paul. the same man who showed up at the end of the 70th week, defiled the temple and attacked the 12 apostles. calvinist are not saved. they follow antichrist paul
And do calvinists believe that we are still under the law? My wife and i attended 2 different calvinist churches, and one said according to Psalm 119 we are still under the law. The other church had the pastor on 2 separate occasions say he didnt know if he was saved!!! Ridiculous
@Alan Cranebeginning in Exodus 20 verse 1, The Lord through moses states the new administration to the people He "brought out of the land of egypt". My family is not Jewish, so wouldn't apply to us, even if we were unbelievers? The Law is paused during the present age of grace, but would resume after the rapture, where works will be required during tribulation and millenium.
@@MikeDiaz_BibleBeliever Why is 'everyone that believeth' AND NOT 'everyone that God caused to believeth' Wouldn't that be more accurate if Calvinism were true? Just asking?
Read Ken Wilson's recent book "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism", to see why Augustine had to deny free will in order to justify infant baptism. Since the child had not come to faith, it must be based on the will of another. It could have nothing to do with the will of the child.
From what I understand, Calvinism has roots in Augustinanism. Augustine was very influenced by Gnosticism and Determinism. This is a good topic to do some research on to confirm, and understand how this all fits together.
The acrostic TULIP was actually first used at Princeton Theological Seminary in 1905 to attempt to make the text from the Synod of Dort easier to teach to laymen. TULIP is consistent with the Dutch text and is also consistent with the writings of John Calvin, but I believe the original text was in Latin, then translated to Dutch, English and other European languages.
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
Allie, when you read Ephesians 1: Forget everything that John Piper says about Ephesians 1 for 3 hours and slowly go through it verse by verse multiple times and allow yourself to have questions and not make assumptions about who the “we, us, and you” are. Remember ALL scripture is FOR YOU but NOT ALL scripture is TO YOU. Ephesians one is written to the believers of the Church that is in Ephesus. Remember Paul writes letters to specific people and groups of people for specific reasons, in service of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The modern chapter divisions must be ignored when we are reading scripture to UNDERSTAND what it is SAYING on the page. The original purpose of the original author to the original audience in the original context that it is written. Cross texts to keep in mind, some are used for general context and some are used to give understanding to verses or sections: (John 16 & 17) (Acts 10) (Acts 19 & 20) (Paul's Epistles) (Romans 1:16-17) (Habakkuk) (Romans 8:9-11) (Romans 8:18-25) (Romans 8:28-30) (Matthew 7:21-23) (Revelation 2 & 3) Breaking down Ephesians 1 Verses 1-2: (Paul's Epistles) Paul uses his standard greeting almost all of his epistles begin with him appealing to his office of apostleship toward those whom he is writing except for maybe the Thessalonians and Hebrews if he wrote Hebrews which it is highly possible. Verses 3-12: (Romans 8:9-15) (Romans 8:18-25) (Romans 8:28-30) (Matthew 7:21-23) (Romans 1:16-17) Before assuming the we and us include the Ephesians read all the way through to verse 12. In Romans 8:23 Paul states explicitly what the “adoption” itself actually is. So Paul says “we/us” (not assuming who the we and us are) “in Him/in Christ” (the most important qualifier) were chosen before the foundation of the world “THAT” (this is connecting the people chosen to the purpose for which they were chosen) and that god has predestined (the) us TO adoption (Romans 8:23). He opens saying people were chosen to receive blessings and then he goes on to list all of the blessings. One of these blessings is the mystery which was made known “TO US… THAT” (connecting the mystery made known to them to the reason for which it was made known) God’s purpose might be fulfilled. Then Paul lists more blessings which are available only IN CHRIST. “THAT” WE WHO FIRST TRUSTED IN CHRIST “should be” (connecting “we who were the first to hope in Christ” according to the ESV which demonstrates that this refers to the first people to believe in Jesus to “being”) to the praise of His Glory. QUESTION: Were the Ephesians the first people to trust in Christ? You will find your answer in the Gospels, in Acts as well as in Romans 1:16-17. This is not the only clue within Ephesians 1 itself that demonstrates the Ephesians are not included in what Paul says in verses 3-12. Keep reading. Verses 13-19: (John 16 & 17) (Acts 10) After Paul discusses all of the spiritual blessings that seemingly he and the apostles were chosen for and predestined to receive along with “the mystery” spoken of in this passage which I believe is shown in Acts 10, Paul then states that the Ephesian believers ALSO received all the blessings AFTER they heard the Gospel and having BELIEVED it, being placed in Christ by the sealing of the Holy Spirit which brings with it promises, blessings and inheritance. Then he goes forward stating that he prays that God would give them the spirit of revelation having the eyes of their understanding opened THAT they may know God’s great power towards BELIEVERS (not unbelievers unto belief). This may or may not have something to do with the mystery, but it definitely has to do with the blessings. But if Paul was talking about the Ephesians earlier in verses 3-12 not only would the Ephesians have to be the first people to trust in Christ according to the text, but Paul has totally FORGOTTEN that all these blessings and mystery were already made known to the Ephesian believers and have been fully realized by them, therefore his prayer is redundant and makes zero sense. You have been predestined to know that 2 + 2 = 4 and the fact that 2 + 2 = 4 has been revealed to you, therefore, I pray that you may know that 2 + 2 = 4. The rest pretty much talks about how awesome God is and all of this is only because of the power he worked in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Paul is known to forget his cloak places (2 Timothy 4:13) and sometimes who/how many people he has baptized (1 Corinthians 1:16), BUT he DOES NOT forget the TRUTH revealed to him by the Lord of Glory who appeared to him on the road to Damascus. He was not won to Christ by the Calvinist definition of “regeneration” but by Jesus LITERALLY appearing before him, rebuking him, blinding him, and commanding him to the service of the Gospel. Paul was Zealous for God before he believed in Jesus but he had the veil over his eyes (2 Corinthians 3:12-16), Paul also says “I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died.” (Romans 7:9). If everyone throughout the bible and today are by the immutable, pre-determined, sovereignly chosen, and unchangeable decree of God pronounced dead (Paul didn't literally die after the law "came alive" in him, he is obviously talking about spiritual death) before we are even born, then how was Paul once alive? He is obviously talking spiritual life. If he was regenerate how could he die spiritually? I think if you are honest with yourself and hold the actual text of scripture above John Piper and the "giants of the faith" you know the answer. Also, when Paul turned to the Lord as he lays out in 2 Corinthians 3, the veil was removed. (2 Corinthians 3: 12-16) So we have the question: what came first? Read all of 1 Corinthians 15, he discusses what came first and why it matters. When Jesus appeared to him Paul responded in belief not due to some internal extra working of the Holy Spirit, but because Jesus “pulled up” and said “Cash me outside howbowdat.” And Paul having seen God, whom he was zealous for, knowing the disobedience, sin and blasphemy that he had committed against Him, and he “understood the assignment” and said “bet, full send.” Thomas also did not come to believe in Jesus due to some inward effectual working. He said “I will NOT believe UNLESS I SEE and TOUCH the wounds. And God being merciful, Jesus allowed him those requests and he believed. The bible believers issue with Calvinism has nothing to do with free will and exalting men, it has everything to do with THE AUTHORITY OF SCRIPTURE and WHAT SCRIPTURE actually SAYS and the propensity for the Calvinist to run from it. I do not make this comment to belittle, to hurt or to be rude. But this is how iron sharpens iron, if you have ever heard the sound of metal being grinded against each other, I have worked sharpening knives for 7 years, and been to the factory where they make our knives. it is not a soft sound, as brothers and sisters in Christ we must be able to in love, including tough love come together and seriously take our understandings and compare it side by side with the text of SCRIPTURE. Not RC Sproul, not John Piper, not John Macarthur, not AW Pink, not even AW Tozer or CS Lewis which neither of those two are reformed. But ONLY SCRIPTURE. We must put our money where our mouth is when it comes to SOLA SCRIPTURA! Other than the silly theology you hold to i love your content and greatly appreciate that you unashamedly lift up the name of Jesus Christ! God Bless and may the piece and love of Jesus Christ be with you always! Hebrews 2:9
How can you have an intimate relationship with our God and know His goodness AND actually believe in Calvinism. It’s totally contrary to His nature. I personally do not believe that Calvinists are saved. I do however believe that there are people who title themselves Calvinists or listen to Calvinist preachers, who haven’t fully understood what Calvin taught or who he was as a man, that are saved but sadly uninformed and unstudied about the heresy of this teaching. Just like JWs, Mormons, Hebrew Roots…it’s a cult. TULIP wasn’t even introduced until the early 1900s. Calvinism has taken off right along with ALL THE OTHER false teachings of the last centuries. Just because it’s old doesn’t mean it’s valid! Jesus warned us that the blind lead the blind and they would ALL fall in a pit. That a direct reference to hell because he’ll is a PIT. Don’t follow the teaching of a man, modern or old! Follow only Jesus and let the Holy Spirit teach you the Word.
I think I understand where you are coming from: The first 2,5 years of my walk with Christ I didn't embrace what is called calvinism, instead I argued against them, because they didn't made sense to me. After two years I started reading the first time in my life through the whole Bible, and was confronted with many texts I never thought about. After 9 months of reading scripture for one, sometimes two hour per day, I started believing more and more in these doctrines. First I didn't like what happened to me, because they still didn't made sense and didn't fit with my prefered view of god, I hold. But: I felt forced to believe in these doctrines of grace especially because of the main texts like Romans 3,9-19, John 6,44 (Point 1), John 15,16, Romans 9,10-23 (Point 2), Matthew 1,21, John 17,6.9 (Point 3), John 1,12-13, Acts 16,14 (Point 4), Philippians 1,6 and 1John 2,19 (Point 5) and many others. How would you interpret these texts from a non-calvinistic viewpoint? Please listen and consider to what is said in this video: ruclips.net/video/sRfrnUmvOv0/видео.htmlsi=ulk2JnxTmkAo2zm2 After that please watch these testimonies. All these videos are really short. ruclips.net/video/F8nH8rmk5eA/видео.htmlsi=4NGinpSY_B3QX3PP ruclips.net/video/qUbE8F_U6Pc/видео.htmlsi=w2NG2U8_EsaPKJlI May god bless you!
If anyone is interested in learning more about reformed theology I highly recommend the late RC Sproul's ministry Ligonier. They are comprised of some of the leading reformed theologians along with RC's teachings. They focus on reformed theology, classical apologetics, church history and philosophy.
I highly recommend staying away from man made doctrines and sticking with scripture. I was lead astray for 17 years in calvanism. Please read the word!
@@AlanaL3 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. ~Romans 9:16 "does not depend on human desire" Our will has nothing to do with whether we are saved or not.
Sproul is practically satans right hand man. He has done more damage to the work of Christ than even John MacArthur and John Piper. He is so smooth and sincere in the way he weaves the calvinist poison its hard to see it go down. Stay away from him and everything he has anything to do with.
@@truth7416 You do know what Romans 9:16 means right? You understand what "does not depend on human desire" means right? Or John 1:13 where he explicitly says salvation is not by the will of man but by the will of God. If you are wrong, you will be found to be preaching a false gospel since you are dogmatic about it.
People can read and have common sense. They can see what Calvinism is and what Christianity is. Christianity = This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 Fake Christianity ( Reformed Calvinism) = God arranges all things by his sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death and are to glorify him by their destruction. John Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6 No active cult member knows he is in a Cult! Wake up! TRUTH IN LOVE
You must read the Bible for all its worth. Forget the Calvinism category, all it whatever you want, but to say that doctrines of grace are fake Christianity is to say Bible is fake. Those verses you quote that appear to contradict Reformed theology can easily be explained. Most, untrained individuals in Biblical exposition and hermeneutics typically has your reaction. Which, btw, doesn't change what the Bible teaches.
@@ernestojlassus1354 You say ... "Those verses you quote that appear to contradict Reformed theology can easily be explained." What your really saying is that, the verses which are Gods Words not mine can, be "Explained away!" That is what all Calvinists do to defend Calvinism and the Cult! The next thing ALL Calvinists do is say. "You don't understand Calvinism. Every Christian understands Calvinism to be a Cult. The ONLY ones who don't understand what Calvinism is, is "The Calvinist!" Name one Cult, that the Cult member knows he is in a Cult? None! Wake up your in a Cult pretending to be a Christian denomination. Anyone interested in the real Gospel of Jesus Christ? Listen to these true men of God preaching the truth. (RUclips) Dave Hunt "What Love is this." Soteriology 101 Dr Leighton Flowers David Pawson Moriel TV Jacob Mike Winger And remember these words from the real GOD! 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. Acts 2 :21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 This promise belongs to you and your children and to all who are far off-.... John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Truth In Love
The only condition that God puts on salvation is that the person receives it because they they desire it and THEY put their faith in Him. But wait I almost forgot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you take every time the scriptures says "World" which is 20 times and twist and force it to say Elect If you take every time the scriptures says "Whoever" which is 16 times and twist and force it to say Elect If you take every time the scriptures says "Whosoever" which is 16 times and twist and force it to say Elect If you take every time the scriptures says "All" which is 16 times and twist and force it to say Elect If you take every time the scriptures says "Everyman" which is 6 times and twist and force it to say Elect Then yes Calvin got it right. and Reformed Theology is true! WINK WINK Even the cult of the Mormons and the Jehovah Witnesses could take twisting lessons from the Deformed Theology pretending to be Christianity. TRUTH IN LOVE
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom. A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch. ” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.” (D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.” (E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).” (F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.” (J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.” (H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.” 5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” ( F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.” (B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm (different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost calvinists! 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
The Bible says No one can come to the Father unless God draws them, but Praise the Lord, Jesus drew us to himself through his death on the cross. John 12:32" And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men unto me.
Allie, I normally love your show and your work but there are plenty of biblical passages that directly contradict TULIP. Limited atonement is contradicted by 1st John 2:2 (“He is the propitiation for our sins and for not ours only but also for the sins of the whole world...”) as well as John 1:29, Romans 11:32, John 3:16-17, and 2nd Peter 2:1. I agree that we are sinful, that our hearts are wicked, that no one seeks God. But nowhere in the Bible does it teach an inability to believe the Word when it is preached to you. I would encourage people to research both sides and not just accept Calvinism as the only true biblical position. There are plenty of reputable non-Calvinists that hold scripture to the same authority as Calvinists- they just have different ways of interpreting the same texts: Romans 9, Ephesians 1 & 2, ect. If you do decide to believe Calvinism, remember that you are believing that God has predestined before anyone was ever born to send some to Heaven and some to Hell, that when you are witnessing you have no idea if you are talking to the elect or not. This makes sharing the gospel confusing- moreover, is it really the gospel, the good news? It is good news if God predetermined you as one of the elect before the foundations of the world. But if not? Please please research the other side, the traditionalist side before coming to a final conclusion on this.
Draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you. That's in James. I don't understand how they can justify calvinism when there are so many scriptures that contradict it.
Most of those verses that state "world" are meaning "from every tongue, tribe, and nation" not the entirety of the world. Propitiation is the quenching of wrath. If Jesus propitiated for the entire world then you are teaching universalism. Read those verses in their context, and you will quickly disprove your own point.
@@TheShandalala Romans 8:8 is pretty clear about the ability of anyone to do what is pleasing to God apart from regeneration as described in Deut 30:6, Ezek 36:26, and many others.
RedeemedOne I’m sorry but your interpretation is simply false; you are reading your systematic onto the text. In the Greek, the word used is “kosmos” which literally means: world, universe. You’ve also failed to make the distinction in the extent of atonement vs. application of atonement. Universalists believe yes, the extent of the atonement is universal, but also the application of the atonement is universal which I disagree with. Not all believe, so not all are saved. And don’t give me monergism vs. synergism- faith is not a meritorious work so simply believing something because you’ve heard the gospel and found it believable doesn’t make you a synergist.
0:48 "Salvation is....by grace alone. In Calvinism, grace is only extended to those whom God chose before time and outside of Christ. The rest, contrary to God's character as taught in the Bible, have no grace and, thus, no hope, but only a fearful expectation of hell. Allie Beth Stuckey is lucky, if she is actually chosen. High-Five, Alley, you're in!
@@AlanaL3 Although seemingly very credible testimony claims by Christians being shown Hell and seeing sin-clinging Christians there was a cold water in my face to investigate deeper, another point that motivated me was just taking it to its logical end. If we're forgiven of all future sins following redemption, then there's no reason to ever again ask forgiveness from God. That didn't sound right. It led me to make this brochure: ruclips.net/video/C5Cpw7d3ib0/видео.html
“I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. - John 17:9 20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; - John 17:20 Immediately before his passion, Jesus is praying for the Apostles and for those who will believe on Him through the Apostle’s word. Jesus said He is not praying for the world. This is clearly Limited Atonement. It would be inconsistent that Jesus would die for the whole world, but only pray for believers.
That is what all Calvinists do to defend Calvinism and the Cult! The next thing ALL Calvinists do is say. "You don't understand Calvinism. Every Christian understands Calvinism to be a Cult. The ONLY ones who don't understand what Calvinism is, is "The Calvinist!" Name one Cult, that the Cult member knows he is in a Cult? None! Wake up your in a Cult pretending to be a Christian denomination. Anyone interested in the real Gospel of Jesus Christ? Listen to these true men of God preaching the truth. (RUclips) Dave Hunt "What Love is this." Soteriology 101 Dr Leighton Flowers David Pawson Moriel TV Jacob Mike Winger And remember these words from the real GOD! 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. Acts 2 :21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 This promise belongs to you and your children and to all who are far off-.... John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Truth In Love
I agree with you. I was just listening to another video of her and was clued in she is a Calvanist so I looked this up and bam there it is. So disappointing 😢
@@donnawojcik1271 Yes it is disappointing when these people don't realize that Satan is using them to be an enemy of the Cross! You will find her Calvinist testimony here Allie Beth Stuckey Explains Calvinism To Ben Shapiro Soteriology 101 Calvinists are knowingly or not knowingly guilty of : Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, guides! My words are not attacks but a warning to them and their victims. They describe Satan's character and apply that to God! They are kicking at the Holiness of God in the name of a man! The monster JOHN CALVIN. Satan's methods are always the same, because they work on humans. Puff them up and put this into their minds..... "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22 Answer : YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID! Truth in Love
I feel bad for the fact that people thinks God can't love them because of this doctrine. I recommend soteriology 101 .Examine verse by verse in context all the distorted meaning calvinism gives to the bible . I hope you can come out of this.
I just want to point out that while Prodastant Christians played a significant roll in the Revolution keep in mind that Washington was a Freemason, Occupies the throne of God in the apotheosis of washington in the capitol rotunda where he is depicted with one hand up and one down on the same manner as the baphomet. The Washington memorial is a giant Obolisk, which represents the phallus and the serpent, and he was also sculpted in the form of Zuse. Washington was no Christian no matter how much they tried to sell the idea that he was to the people of that time. He was a Freemason that likely worshiped Lucifer. Franklin was a mason and also part of the hellfire club. Jefferson made his own Bible and removed any passage that deified Jesus, including his mericles. In short, the high society intellectual class used the simple Bible believing Christians to fight their war and give them a country. But the plan, I believe, was eventually to do away with Christianity all together. Which was a goal of the enlightenment era also know as the age of reason. Which, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and many other signers of the declaration of independence students of and believed in.
Just a question for your own thoughts no response necessary- who benefits from you rescinding all the ideas of the forefathers of America? (I'm not saying you should believe and hold to everything they said, but who today will directly benefit from the tearing down of the traditional beliefs on which America was founded?).
The people who will benefit are those that are seeking the truth regardless of how it changes their image of their country. As Christian’s, we shouldn’t idolize our nations or governments. A good documentary to watch on this subject is Chris Pinto’s The Hidden Faith of Our Founding Fathers.
Thank you Allie. I like the way Martin Lloyd Jones sums it up: I am a Calvinist; I believe in election and predestination; but I would not dream of putting it under the heading of essential. I put it under the heading of non-essential. You are not saved by your precise understanding of how this great salvation comes to you. #MartynLloydJones
Theologically, I can't accept 5 point Calvinism. It's way too involved to go into detail here, but there are plenty of moral and Biblical problems with it.
the thing that gets me is, if calvinism is correct, why even have a bible or even preach? nothing any of us do can change anything. it's already a puppet show.
@@exploringtheologychannel1697 taken to the logical conclusion calvinism does. we have no choice in anything. if we're predestined for hell it does no good to go to church and profess faith in Jesus because we're damned...literally.
4309chris Calvinism does not deny human responsibility. Both human responsibility and God’s sovereignty are both taught in Scripture. These twin truths that cannot be reconciled with our finite fallen minds. The error is when we demand a theology that reconciles to the extent of our satisfaction instead of bowing humbly before the revelation of Scripture. Calvinism does not say it is all figured out; Calvinism simply consistently presents what Scripture says even in areas that are difficult to handle. If your view places you on the side of the objections in Romans 9, then you are probably on the wrong side of the argument.
1 Timothy 2:3-6 New International Version 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
@Pk Amponn God commands all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30), not just the elect. did you not watch the video? Allie addresses this truthfully when she says that the Bible says both that God alone chooses who He saves, but also that all men are held accountable for their sins. These two biblical facts do not contradict each other.
John Marchione the problem with Allie’s and Calvinists soteriological views is that it takes total inability to a place where man is no longer responsible. If we assume that man is totally unable to even respond positively to the Grace of the Lord, then man is no longer responsible for their evil because it isn’t up to them to receive salvation. This not only paints God in a really bad picture (talk about not looking good that your own creations cannot respond positively to you if you don’t make them; indicative of a poor creator who made such bad creations), it makes evangelism pointless (if prevenient grace is necessary before true acceptance of grace, then why waste the effort and let God do what he wants). Part of the problem of the concept of election/predestination is that Calvinism doesn’t exegete from the text. When the Bible talks about the elect/predestination, it merely refers to the fact that those who have faith in Christ (faith does not solely mean to believe by the way) will be saved as a predetermined fact. Calvinism isn’t based in scripture and the texts Allie cites do not mean what she thinks they mean (Romans never makes the claim for total inability, it makes the claim that we are so sinful we are not capable of saving ourselves without Christ, but it doesn’t remove our responsibility to embrace our faith in Him).
@@greyknight627 TULIP does not take the responsibility away from man but is revelation to mans nature and that is his hatred of God. This does paint God in a bad light but is a glories light where He takes His eneamies and reconciles them to Himself. I have heart for evangelizing all ppl and that's because faith comes by hearing and hearing th he word of God. Stop assuming what the bible says and let it speak for its self. Ppl like you who think election is not fair never seem to worry about the fairness of the fallen angels, there is no gospel for them, but it is not about fairness because it was we would all be in hell with them no one would be saved.
@@JohnMarchione-y2p For starters, you assumed I do not think election is not fair, which is not what I said. That is a stretched interpretation of my words. What I actually said was that Calvinism/TULIP does not properly define election in the Bible (the definition of which I provided in my original response). I don't look at election as a matter of what's fair, I look at it in terms of what the Bible actually says. TULIP election isn't unfair because I it's not scriptural, or correct, in the first place. In addition, your argument for individual accountability and evangelizing is not succinct: if faith comes by hearing the Word of God, then you cannot truly believe in the Total Depravity of TULIP. For example, R.C. Sproul confirms that reformed Calvinistic Theology teaches regeneration is what precedes faith under the doctrine of Total depravity; in other words, before regeneration, a sinner is dead until they're given a new nature by God, and only then can they believe (Sproul, "Chosen By God", page 72). The problem in this logic (which is NOT in the Bible by the way, Allie's citation of Romans is incorrect, rather Paul was talking about how, in our sinful nature, we cannot save ourselves because only Christ can do that) is that it means we are so depraved that we cannot respond positively EVEN when we hear the Word of God, unless God has previously regenerated our nature so we can respond positively. This is why I said evangelism is pointless under the TULIP model: if people are so depraved that they cannot respond positively to the Word of God without regeneration, then there isn't a point to evangelism because its solely up to God to regenerate the unbelievers, who, once given their new nature, will come to the Word on their own. Which is more glorifying: a master chess player who can only play against himself so he can make all the necessary moves/pieces go where he wants them to; or, a master chess player who can flat out beat every person, of ever discernible skill level in the world? Obviously, the later is more worthy of glory/praise. The former is what TULIP and Calvinism claims is the state of God's sovereignty and the analysis I provided above is exemplified in this analogy.
Hi Allie. I wanted to say that God has really blessed you. I was born again and sanctified in an Assembly of God type church. It wasn’t until many years later after failing over and over again in obedience that the Lord showed me about the doctrines of grace! I had to completely come to the end of myself to understand the mighty hand of God. Thank you for your ministry. The Lord bless you as you continue to teach.
After 17 years of calvanism I’m free!!! Please hear all sides before following calvanism blindly. It’s seemingly so “rich and robust” but it completely misrepresents God and there is so much error in it.
Yes it is disappointing when these people don't realize that Satan is using them to be an enemy of the Cross! You will find her Calvinist testimony here Allie Beth Stuckey Explains Calvinism To Ben Shapiro Soteriology 101 Calvinists are knowingly or not knowingly guilty of : Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, guides! My words are not attacks but a warning to them and their victims. They describe Satan's character and apply that to God! They are kicking at the Holiness of God in the name of a man! The monster JOHN CALVIN. Satan's methods are always the same, because they work on humans. Puff them up and put this into their minds..... "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22 Answer : YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID! Truth in Love
@@AlanaL3 High Alana. And that makes you free in deed! Nice to meet a friendly face. Keep on keeping on for Christ against the Calvinist Heresy. Truth in love
U say u don’t understand everything about calvanism. Thats ur problem. If u just read ur bible with the Holy Spirit leading u there’s no need to understand calvanism. Calvanism is confusion n whos the author of confusion? Ur a man follower Allie. Its time to examine urself. Please do.
I believe these passages display choice: And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. -Joshua 24:15 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! -Luke 13:34 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent -Acts 17:30 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. -Revelation 2:21
Although I'm not a Calvinist, I have read Calvin's full Institutes and he was one of the foremost, greatest Christian minds ever to live. I don't believe Irresistible Grace but I do believe all the other Points though. I guess you could say I believe in TULPP instead of TULIP, the first P being Prevenient Grace.
J.D. Martin Theology Discussion Channel Well, even Calvin believed in "free will" though he didn't like the term because it was often misleading. Being dead in trespasses and sins we need the Spirit's work of regeneration to make us alive so that we can believe. This the Spirit does for each and every person who hears the gospel, each person regenerated (Genesis 6:3), but the Spirit will not continually strive with humans and ultimately the lost who God did not choose for salvation will remain lost, not because they were predestined to hell - no one is predestined to hell - but because of their sinful desires and choice not to believe in Christ. Ultimately, if one is saved, it's because God chose him or her, but if one is lost, it is their fault, not God's. We can't work it all out with our finite, puny minds that only understand time linearly, but simply must believe in both God's sovereign election and man's responsibility to believe.
prevenient grace puts man in charge of his own salvation. The gift of salvation is from God alone and since God is sovereign His call is effectual, if not, He is not sovereign and thus not God.
Yes Calvin was a foremost great christian mind???? Really ??? Read about the man, its in public domain and won't be swept under the rug! THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom. A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch. ” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.” (D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.” (E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).” (F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.” (J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.” (H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.” 5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” ( F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.” (B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm (different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost Calvinists! 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
R.C Sproul agrees 100% with John Piper and John MacArthur on this quote John Piper " God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that HE HIMSELF BRINGS ABOUT THESE EVIL aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . . So from these I take it god bars access to salvation, dooms people from the womb to destruction and brings about all evil. Heh! I quoted word for word! Its easy for you to say I am ignorant of Reformed theology and scripture. Please tell us all what these quotes mean? Jesus didn't stop calling people to Him and I will not stop either! “I love those who love me, and those who diligently seek me will find me. Proverbs 8:17 But from there, you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul. Deuteronomy 4:29 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. Luke 11:9-10 ‘You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:13 Satan Hates every verse above! His followers also hate them. The big problem is satans followers think they are defending John Calvin's gospel as they have been brain washed to see as the truth. But it is really satan's gospel they defend. Life is too short to play games. Eternity is at stake. The "ELECT" is the name for humans that have become adopted into Gods family through their repenting and being baptized. The Angels are called His Elect Angels. Once again a name for a group of Holy Angels. (Nothing to do with salvation) It is not a title for the selective, lottery salvation winners, of Calvinism. God calls Israel His “elect” or “chosen” people. It has nothing to do with salvation or every Jew would be saved. Chosen and election mean the same thing. It is always used for title of a group, or what service God has offered for you to do if you are willing. It NEVER is about salvation or condemnation by God! Salvation is available to ALL. We simply, or not so simply, have to reach out and take hold of the life preserver held out in front of us. TRUTH IN LOVE I am going to suggest you view these teachers who are truly men of God and honest in their handling of the scriptures, you will be blessed by them. They are on youtube. 1. What love is this Dave Hunt 2. Soteriology 101 Dr Leighten Flowers 3. Mike Winger 4. David Pawson 5. Moriel TV TRUTH IN LOVE
It is easy to say God elects people when you are the "elect/or Christian." Imagine telling someone that God created them solely to send them to hell. In this case, it is God's fault they sinned. Yes, you can say that there are verses that say God does not tempt people. In this case God did not predestine/predetermine everything, otherwise one is making a double-standard and telling God what He predestines/predetermines. Also verses in Ephesians and Romans literally refer to Christians and that easily debunks Calvinist teachings by referencing simple verses. 1 Timothy 2:6 and others clearly say God wants all to be saved. This is by no way a n exhaustive comment because I don't have time to write a book all day lol but hopefully this sheds light. I will say that I believe Calvinists are saved just as much as Christians that are not Calvinists but believe in Faith alone. Saying this comment with love and respect because I love your content Allie but I disagree heavily with Calvinism
Allie I have thought the world of you and enjoyed and agreed with so many of your discussions. Now knowing your deep down beliefs about Calvinism, I can no longer frequent your channel. I see no difference between the elitism of Calvinism and the elitism of the woke democrats, it's all about looking down on and feeling superior to your fellow man.
@Secret garden Since it's important to you to be right I'll let you have the last word, I have better things to do with my time than argue with Calvinists. God bless you.
@@toolegittoquit_001 God is sovereign but did not make us to be robots. He gave us choice. Sovereignty does not mean dictating every step of everything. It means being above all. You guys misuse a definition and use that to look down on others. By their fruits you shall know them. I don't even need to argue theologically. The smugness and pride of most Calvinists online shows me enough fruit and tells me of this wrong theology but guess what i won't do I still won't call your God who is my God different,. I still see you as a brother in Christ. But to you others are damned. May the Lord open the eyes of your understanding and give you humility
I don't believe that I ate chicken for lunch was predestinated but I believe our salvation is and Bible prophecies are. Ephesians Chapter 1 is undeniable for Bible believers.
Ephesians 1 is referring to how God predestined the body of christ as a whole, not individually. And paul is writing to the saints whom accepted and believed the blood sacrifice of Jesus
@@joe_zeay Jesus said, "No man can come unto me unless my Father who sent me draws him" that sounds pretty individual to me not collective. Ephesians Chapter 2 sounds pretty personal also that we were dead in sins and he quickened us which means made us born again. Nobody chooses to be naturally born and nobody chooses to be spiritually born it's an act of God.
@@dwashington1333 yes paul was writing to those already saved in the entire book of Ephesians. But how does one become saved? We find that in pauls book of Romans earlier. Romans 10: 9-10 specifically. One thing a true calvinist knows, is that they don't know if they are saved. Unless they were borned saved? God cant force someone to pray to Him and confess Jesus is their personal lord and saviour. One must Choose to do so.
@@joe_zeay read John 6:44. "No man can come unto me unless my Father who sent me draws him" Jesus said. We are spiritually dead until God quickens us and draws us to Jesus, a dead man can't do anything and that is what we are dead in sins and spiritually dead until we are born again. Nobody chooses to be naturally born and nobody chooses to be spiritually born.
@@dwashington1333 Jesus was speaking to Israel. He hadn't yet been crucified, buried, & raised when He was speaking. His gospel was that of the Kingdom (for Israel). Paul's gospel to us in this age is a separate gospel. The gospel of grace... where man has to accept/reject the blood now shed on the cross to be saved. Gotta rightly divide, as the whole Bible isn't about you. Cant cherry pick verses out of context. Gotta read each entire chapter/book to understand. God loves and has pursued EVERY MAN. now its our turn to pursue Him.
Well done, Allie. I like the phrase, “regeneration before faith”. When one considers that we were chosen before the foundation of the world then it all comes from outside of ourselves. However, the act of expressing saving faith makes it seems like something that comes from within. People think,”this is my voice that is praying, so this must be my faith”. Only later do some people come to realize that that faith was given to them by their heavenly Father.
Bill Hansen Regeneration happens after faith.... Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) All that believed would receive the Spirit after Jesus’ resurrection and ascension.... Jhn 14: 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Jhn 15: 26 ¶ But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: Jhn 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. The Holy Spirit is first given here.... Jhn 20: 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: So they didn’t receive the Holy Spirit until after the resurrection as Jesus stated in John 7. That’s well after the disciples believed, and many others as well...... Jhn 2: 23 ¶ Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. Luk 7: 50 ¶ And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace. Even after the resurrection, faith still preceded regeneration..... Eph 1: 13 ¶ In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. Just to clarify what regeneration is. It is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.... Rom 8: 9 ¶ But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Spiritual life happens after belief..... Jhn 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. The disciples hadn’t received this life before the resurrection of Christ..... Jhn 14:19 ¶ Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. Peter hadn’t yet been converted..... Luk 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. (Matt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.) God bless
Evan U Thanks for taking the time to write all those verses. I do believe what the Bible says, and I also believe that Allies statement that regeneration precedes faith is Biblical. Please study Eph 2:1-10.
Bill Hansen Every passage has a meaning and a context. What do you do with the passages I cited? If they don’t mean that regeneration happens after faith then what are they saying? Do you believe that the bible has contradictions and we can pick whichever side that fits our doctrine the best? I hope that’s not what you think. Eph 2:1-10 doesn’t mention when regeneration takes place. Faith isn’t the gift either. “Faith” is a feminine noun. “That” is a neuter pronoun. It can’t be referring to faith. The fact that salvation is obtained by grace through faith means that it’s a gift..... Rom 3: 27 ¶ Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. That’s saying pretty much the same thing. Rom 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. God bless.
@@evanu6579 Bunch of verses yanked out of context and then machine-gunned into a post before being loosely tied together and the reply button being sent.
Randy Couture You keep making that claim but you haven’t once shown how a single passage has been taken out of context. Show me the context of one of the passages I cited that would change the way I used it. Every time you make a claim and I disagree, I don’t just hurl accusations, I cite the passage and the context. I go through it with you. You’ve never once done the same. You seem to be very good at making false accusations but not so good with the evidence. Name one time when you’ve actually answered a question I asked you. Name a time when I didn’t answer one of yours.
People that are saying she is duped or pulling scripture out of context need to open their bibles and read those passages in full. Find a good expositional church and ask God for grace to understand scripture. We are not God, we cannot save ourselves. The Bible is not about us, it is about God.
Yes the Calvinist god is merciful by punishing by torture those he forced to commit the very sins he came up with! Good job Baucham Sproul, Calvin, MacArthur, Washer, Piper. No wonder millions flock to the merciful Calvin god! The real God of Creation said this of His love for all man and the Created Universe. Psalms 145:9 The Lord is good to ALL; he has compassion on ALL he has made. Little different from the evil cruel god of calvinism isn't it? The real Jesus said in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. Calvinist god followers say that their god blinds the eyes of the Non-elect so they cannot see or understand the gospel. Yet it is they who have been blinded by Satan. Satan has blinded the eyes of those who are perishing. Satan leads the whole World astray. Nothing makes people hate God faster than Calvinism. Nothing turns people into Atheists faster than Calvinism! Nothing kills hope and love faster than Calvinism! Yet they are wise in their own eyes and lost in their souls and hearts.They gather around themselves those who speak the same lie! Wake up and turn to God who loves you . "Repent and be Baptized before your life is spent and there is no more hope for you! This can be the day of your salvation. In Love!
@@KGuardado3 Thank you Kristen. I would encourage you to try to reach the Lost Calvinists as well. Romans 10:14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” TRUTH IN LOVE
@@truth7416 We just started going to a church 6 mo ago, and while taking their membership class, we have found out it's a Calvinist church. We're torn. We love these people
I don't understand why Allie is doing this. All she's going to accomplish is the alienation of people who like her politics but despise Calvinism as I do. Stick to rebutting AOC.
I'll only disagree to a point. I agree in that I don't believe Calvinism either. Most of my friends in college were Calvinists and I learned a lot about it during that time, and all I have found is that the passages that they use do not work when you are actually reading these passages the way they're written. That being said I want her to talk about what she believes and to have discussions with people who disagree with her. I don't want it to be an every-week thing, but I certainly don't want to tell her to stop else I quit watching
@@rmlrobl I've already listened to tons of stuff on Calvinism. I could teach what she's teaching if I believed in it. What I want from Allie is her take on the political scene. Her satire is the bomb. But this stuff ???
@@rmlrobl and like I said, I agree with the main premise of what he's saying. A lot of Calvinists sound the same. I spent about a year-and-a-half in one calvinist Church and another half a year in another. Mostly I hear a lot of the same stuff over and over. It is very alienating for people who don't agree.
Romans 5:18 "Therefore, as through one man's offense, judgment came to ALL(pas) men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to ALL (pas) men, resulting in justification and life." A few questions: If the Greek word "pas" when used in scripture translated to "all" means "all kinds" or "all without distinction" rather than simply meaning WHAT IT SAYS "all." Then did judgment and condemnation only come to "all kinds" of men or did condemnation and free gift come to ALL men like the bible actually says? Do we get to decide what the words of scripture mean based on our man made theology system? Or as professors of Jesus Christ and believing 2 Timothy 3:16 that all scripture is by the inspiration of God we should submit to what the WORDS on the page SAY. You don't have to believe in free will to understand when you read scripture Calvanism TULIP system flies in the face of the words of scripture. Calvanism is 1 verse theology and context completely wipes the floor with the TULIP. I used 1 verse as an example but when you go through the texts they cite in context you do not get calvanism, you get bible. Calvanists say Sola scriptura all day but when you go to debate them they run away from the text and make gaslighting, moralistic and philosophical arguments while throwing out of context verses at you. Just read your Bible, you are brothers and sisters in Christ but Satan loves the confused gospel that you preach.
My church teaches the five points of Calvinism (Reformed Presbyterian) and I largely agree with them, but I’ve learned over the years not to debate them because people get so angry and it ends up just causing a huge argument. So I just keep mum. But it’s amazing how often I hear preaching from people who are supposedly not Calvinists but who say things like God chooses us before we choose Him; that no one comes to God unless the Father draws him, and similar statements. But if you were to debate those individuals one-on-one they would likely get angry and deny that they are Calvinists. 🤔
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom. A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch. ” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.” (D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.” (E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).” (F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.” (J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.” (H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.” 5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” ( F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.” (B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm (different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost calvinists! 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
KH thank you for explaining this. It sounds like a conundrum for sure. Check out Leighton Flowers "Soteriology 101." He has so many good explanations and he is so calm and loving when he debates Calvinistic theology. You will enjoy it immensely, I think. God bless. :)
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
Christ exalting, pretty, conservative, and a calvinist. Allie, if you could tell us men where the rest of your kind are we would really appreciate it! 😁
The issue of total depravity was decided at the Councils of Orange. Augustine himself was at the first one. Man in his natural state has lost his state of grace with God since The Fall. Without grace we are only tempted to sin. This is your original sin. It’s a disordered relationship with God. God grants you grace on his own accord so you are also tempted towards virtue. Every act of holy charity, faith and hope is preceded by an extension of grace by God. God augments your free will so you can choose virtue over sin. It’s not a decision you can make by yourself. God needs to grant you this ability first.
By reading a bunch of your posts, you are obviously one of the elect, and god must be speaking through you to get me to know the truth as well. Well I finally see it ! Thanks so much! I must have been the slowest kid in Sunday school growing up because I thought Jesus loved me and all of the other kid there. I must have been such a dope! You have made me see that Jesus actually hated most of us and wanted most of us to go to Hell. Your right who am I to question God's love like that. I guess I should preach this like you do, but how do I know I am an elect person like you? I may be simply deceived by the devil to think I am one of the elect. That would make me a fake which has to be bad. It is so confusing don't you think? If I ever figure out that I am one of the elect like you, the first thing I do will be teach the kids in Sunday school the real "Jesus Loves me song" for the elect, as it should be. "Jesus loves me, this I know. As for you, I don't think so. Only some to Him belong. We are right and you are wrong. Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me! But I hope this isn't effervescent grace that I'm walking in and instead I'm actually deceived and one of the reprobates that He created to burn as a candle for His glory in Hell forever." TRUTH IN LOVE
Joshua 24:15 man must Choose to accept who to serve. James 4:8 man can seek out God. John 6:40 believe jesus died for your sins and you will be saved There is more books and chapters in the bible than romans 9
@@edwinnunez7538 calvinists told me they dont believe in freewill. Perhaps youre not calvinist. That whole Irresistible Grace crap... and Total Depravity lie
@@joe_zeay incorrect. What we don’t believe in is an autonomous free will that works outside of God’s decree. Literally look at the reformed tradition lol. We’ve always believed in free will, just not the Arminian perversion of it. Are you down to discuss it somewhere like zoom or discord ?
My wife’s brother-in-law is an elder in the PCA. He anathematized both me and my family for not believing that God “meticulously predestinates everything that has or will ever happen for His own good pleasure and glory.” It turns out that he was cheating on his wife with multiple women the whole time he was condemning me. It must be then that God found please in his wife saying, “Sayonara you creep.”
Allie, I’d suggest Roger Olson for a fair treatment of Arminianism. I find most Calvinist are not really familiar with classical Arminianism. Maybe you get him on one of your Monday shows for an interview.
Allie, unfortunately the views you present on TULIP and Calvinism isn’t accurate exegesis of the scriptures. Calvinism brings up a false dichotomy of election and salvation: either God is supremely in control or we are. However, the Truth is God is supremely sovereign (in that He rules as He sees fit) and rules to give us libertarian free will. If God is the puppet master over the whole world, why then does He need patience (as seen in the Bible), why did Christ weep for those of Israel who chose not to believe, and why did God give Israel a choice to be his kingdom on earth (look at Exodus 19, there is an of then statement where God gives Moses his contract to ask the Jews if they WANT to be his nation)? TULIP is a flawed man-made philosophy of scripture, but it gets a lot wrong (Arminianism isn’t 100% correct either by the way).
@@choicemeatrandy6572 You danced around my question. Why would God have free-will offerings in the old testament, if no one had free will to do or not do the offerings?
@@Sanok-29 Where did I say no one had "free will"? I asked specifically for greyknight to show me where "libertarian free will" appears in the Bible, if you want to talk about dancing around the question that's exactly what you're doing.
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
0:24 "These (TULIP) are really focused on the central act God saving sinners." This statement is wrong. TULIP is focused not on God saving sinners; that would the gospel. NO, TULIP is focused on how God saves only some people, by choosing them before time, and outside of Christ.
Love your statement! Yes the Calvinist god is merciful by punishing by torture those he forced to commit the very sins he came up with! Good job Baucham Sproul, Calvin, MacArthur, Washer, Piper. No wonder millions flock to the merciful Calvin god! The real God of Creation said this of His love for all man and the Created Universe. Psalms 145:9 The Lord is good to ALL; he has compassion on ALL he has made. Little different from the evil cruel god of calvinism isn't it? The real Jesus said in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. Calvinist god followers say that their god blinds the eyes of the Non-elect so they cannot see or understand the gospel. Yet it is they who have been blinded by Satan. Satan has blinded the eyes of those who are perishing. Satan leads the whole World astray. Nothing makes people hate God faster than Calvinism. Nothing turns people into Atheists faster than Calvinism! Nothing kills hope and love faster than Calvinism! Yet they are wise in their own eyes and lost in their souls and hearts.They gather around themselves those who speak the same lie! Wake up and turn to God who loves you . "Repent and be Baptized before your life is spent and there is no more hope for you! This can be the day of your salvation. In Love!
@@truth7416 I agree 100%. I'm very fortunate and blessed that the Lord had mercy on me and delivered me from calvinism. It's horrible, as far as I'm concerned. But I pray that God will continue to deliver more and more souls out of every lie of the enemy. P.s. do you believe someone can be a calvinist and still be a Christian? I'm thinking it's possible, but like you said, calvinism is very detrimental to faith.
@@trustchristnotmyselfextran6298 It is so refreshing to hear your escape from the Dark gospel of Calvinism. God and the Angels rejoice over this as scripture says. Its also nice not to be attacked for bringing the truth! Is it possible to be saved while being inside a Catholic or Reformed church system? I would say yes very hesitantly. Most baby Christians have very little understanding of the details of the system they are in. If they don't grow they they may be unaware. A baby Mormon is not told they are gods in the making. A baby Catholic is not told that Mary is a co-saviour. A baby Jehovah Witness is not told that Jesus is just an Angel. etc. A baby Calvinist is not told that God is the source of all evil and doesn't love or want to save everyone until they have been slowly and forcefully taught this lie. They then either are so repulsed by it, that the Holy Spirit can now work to get them out of there, or they embrace the lie to the point of no return. YOU are so blessed that you followed the Holy Spirits leading. It was always your choice. I am so encouraged to think that the efforts of others helped you. I only hope that my efforts may also help some one. God is pleased in the efforts of preaching more than the results of preaching. The results are between the hearer of the Word and God. We are just co-workers. God Bless you dear one! and I don' say this as just a nice phrase at the end of a letter.
The soteriology channel tried to critique your explanation of the dispensations of grace. It seems those guys really don't understand The Human Condition. Also, I think they believe that God would only elect some if he were unjust...death to all is just. Mercy to some, based on nothing you did, is Scripture. Exodus 33:18
The human condition is we are made in gods image, have the law written on our hearts, have a conscience that bears witness to right and wrong, and we believe or suppress the truth that is evident all around us since the beginning of time. We are fallen and need salvation that’s only available through Jesus and he made a way for anyone who believes in him to be saved. The GOOD news, the hope for all mankind! What a loving God.
@Pk Amponn But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 10:26-28 KJV AMEN
@Pk Amponn According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Ephesians 1:4 KJV AMEN
@Pk Amponn Turn a page back to 2 Peter 2 and read about how Peter talks about how false teachers and prophets are destined for destruction and that their punishment was destined from long ago.
Most non-Calvinists who have become Calvinists were 'convinced' Calvinism is true by someone more clever at using their 'proof texts' than the non-Calvinist was at disputing them. Few Christians have ever heard the sermon on "what's wrong with Calvinism". This is usually because their preacher didn't know how to explain it, was afraid of touching a 'third rail', or didn't think it was even necessary.... (BIG MISTAKE). Consequently, most non-Calvinist Christians are vulnerable and woefully unprepared to articulately provide a defense to the accusation against God that he does NOT love all his creation and/or that he has NOT "Graciously" made provision for ALL of mankind to be reconciled to himself by faith in Christ. Instead, they are easily out-argued by a Calvinist who can argue their 'plucked-proof-texts' by virtue of having already been convinced by some other Calvinist that God has actually created and condemned the vast majority of mankind, (made in his own image), to burn in Hell for doing precisely what he has decreed they would do, while he withholds the ability to do otherwise... for his own glory. Calvinists have been defending the indefensible for hundreds of years. They have it down to a 'cha-cha dance'. They seem to learn it the same way, rinse & repeat. Most of their arguments employ misdirection, redefined words, and terms and the invention of dual, non-falsifiable meanings. Is it more correct to say that egg yolks "are" white or is it OK to say egg yolks "is" white? Calvinist arguments can go something like this, it's sort of like a fighter setting up a right hook with a left jab and a head fake. Example; Calvinist: "You believe God is sovereign, right?"(their definition of sovereignty excluded)... Victim: "Right!" Calvinist: "You believe man is totally depraved, right?"(their definition of depravity excluded)... Victim: Right! Calvinist: "You know man can't save himself, right?"(begging the question of how salvation occurs)... Victim: Right! Calvinist: "Why did you get saved and your friend didn't?"... Victim: "I believed the Gospel and accepted the gift of salvation, and he didn't." Calvinist: "Oh, so you saved yourself, aren't you special. So, you must think you're better than him. ....I thought we already covered that".. etc. etc. It goes on ad nauseam. The unsuspecting, unprepared victim really has no chance. And the next thing you know John "Bob" Calvin's your uncle....... But yokes are still yellow, not white.😊
@@leonardu6094 It has been by most non-Calvinists.....and those who have come out from under the thumb of it's popular leaders. Calvinists are not a monolithic bunch, but they are consistent in one thing. They all agree that anyone who rejects or leaves the Calvinist doctrine ... doesn't now, or never never did, understand it. 🤣And this even applies to former Calvinist pastors of 25yrs or more who eventually saw TULIP for the fallacy it is. As for anyone who affirms and believes in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ and his virgin birth, and sinless sacrifice for our sins unto their own salvation, I have no reason to doubt their salvation, regardless of how confused they might be as to how it happened. Apart from the Presbyterians, the majority of Calvinists have been saved outside of Calvinistic influence and only came to accept and believe 'TULIP' by being convinced of it by someone more skilled at arguing for their cherry picked proof texts than the non-Calvinist was at placing them in their proper non-Calvinist context. It is possible to convince an unprepared non-Calvinist they really have been a Calvinist all along and just didn’t ‘know it' inside of 30 minutes, it happens every day. There are hard-core types on both sides of the isle who each contend the other is not saved. They should not. I think both are ignoring what scripture says about how salvation occurs. God saves those who believe. The argument is not “if” they believe in Christ, it is “how” and “why” they believe. Regarding the doctrines of Calvinism; those who teach it are as deceived as those who believe them, in my opinion. They are all fallen to the snare laid by the father of lies. I don't think Augustine and Calvin invented the lies which became TULIP..... The fell for them. It's the same lie Satan told Eve in the Garden; You can't trust God to have your best interests in mind... personally. It's a trick of Satan/Calvinism to plant a doubt in the mind of any believer that God might not love them… personally. He can't keep a believer out of heaven, but he can spoil their relationship with the father while here on earth. Perfect love casts out fear. BUT when you fear the 'love' might not be real…you cannot escape the fear. It's a lousy basis for any type of loving relationship. On the other hand, teaching little kids that Jesus might not love them.... personally, or even their little friend next door, is problematic to say the least. I seem to recall something about a millstone and deep water😎
@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT I agree with everything you just said. How do you deal with the common rebuttal by some calvinists that God actually loves everybody, but he just loves people differently.
@@leonardu6094 The idea of God providing sunlight, and oxygen as a type of 'love' but only for a little while on earth before sending souls, created in His own image no less, for the express purpose of eternal damnation for for His own pleasure, to increase his own glory, and to demonstrate his power and judgment is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned. the 13th chapter of 1Corinthians is pretty clear about what the 'God' kind of love is. Calvinism's description of God's nature is categorically opposed to the Heavenly Father whom Christ described and portrayed while here on earth. Scripture specifically says God IS love, as a 'noun'. Read 1Cor 13 and replace the word Love with God, (which is no stretch). There is no way you get a portrait of the God which Calvinism paints. It is somewhat ironic as much as tragic that many atheists describe their impression of God in Calvinistic terms. They rightly reject the portrait of God which Calvin paints . But unfortunately throw God out with the painting.
@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT That is so true! I had noticed that too. Many times when an unbeliever is railing against God to me. they're usually really railing against calvinist impressions of God and calvinist doctrines like total depravity, original sin and determinism.
Good on her for speaking her convictions! I believe she is speaking the truth. Most people who reject The 5 Points of Calvinism do so out of ignorance or strongly held traditions that stop them from allowing God's Word to speak on the matter.
Your work in this video was spectacular! Thanks so much for standing up for the true Gospel! I love the fact that you unashamedly teach the Bible along with your political commentary. You are a gift to the Church Allie!
What are you saying the gospel is? I say the gospel is the good news that’s a savior has come to save the world. Is that hope only for some? That grace only for some? That good news only for the “elect” and bad news for everyone else? Is that the message you see in The Bible?
There is no Christian content in Alley's talk! She is a 5-Point Reformed Calvinist not a Christian. Calvinism is a Cult , don't be deceived! It is another Gospel! A Doctrine of Demons! Yes it is disappointing when these people don't realize that Satan is using them to be an enemy of the Cross! You will find her Calvinist testimony here Allie Beth Stuckey Explains Calvinism To Ben Shapiro Soteriology 101 Calvinists are knowingly or not knowingly guilty of : Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, guides! My words are not attacks but a warning to them and their victims. They describe Satan's character and apply that to God! They are kicking at the Holiness of God in the name of a man! The monster JOHN CALVIN. Satan's methods are always the same, because they work on humans. Puff them up and put this into their minds..... "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22 Answer : YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID! Truth in Love
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
The problem is YOU believe in Calvi-god who is sovereign in your life. Calvi-god and Calvi-jesus are really Satan! Hear from the God of the Bible and come out of your Cult!! “For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord, repent and live!” - Ezekiel 18:31 “He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.” - 1 John 2:2 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son, so that whosoever believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.” John 3:16 “God wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people.” 1 Timothy 2:4-6 The former says that God loves the world and that this love prompted Him to send His one and only son to die for their sins so that those out of the world who believe in Him will be saved. “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign LORD who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves.” 1 Peter 2:1 “That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.” 1 Timothy 4:10 Truth in Love
@@anomilumiimulimona2924 of course I have:) now I just know God hears me and can actually interact and respond to my prayer. I’m not just part of a big theatrical
John 3:16 Both Joshua and Moses commanded the children of Israel to "...choose ye this day who ye will serve..." Paul also said that God made all nations from one blood, and he has determined the times and bounds of their habitation, so that by seeking him they should find him, even though he is not too far from them. Jesus in Mathew 6:33 said, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness.." Salvation is predetermined for anyone. The lamb has been slayed from the foundation of the world, and it is up to us to believe and claim this sacrifice. Jesus' sacrifice saved us from the penalty of sin, the power of sin and will save us from the presence of sin when he returns. God wants us all to be saved but he will not manipulate our choices or confine us to his presence if we do not want to reside their. God knows the outcome but he does not rig the game. Adam and Eve had a choice, so did Cain & Abel, the antediluvians and so do all of us. I listen you as often as I can and you do terrific work. God bless you and your family.
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
Keep up the good work Allie. Check out the following books for further analysis and information. What is Reformed Theology? By RC Sproul 40 Questions About Calvinism by Shawn Wright & The Potters Freedom by James R White
@Pk Amponn Dude do you even Bible and Church History? Anyone with a profile pic of the infamous heretic Pelagius loses all crediblity with anyone who understands historic orthodoxy.
Casey Sandberg Truly a better place to start might be Augustine’s Conversion from Traditional Free Choice to ‘non-Free Will’: A Comprehensive Methodology or the pared down The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism. Though Augustine did make some positive contributions as a Father of the Catholic Church, he did revert back to his Gnostic Manichaeism Tradition of which John Calvin based his Theology on. Unfortunately Calvinism today is premised on that Gnostic as well making it a cult as well.
Thanks for this well researched episode! One Little Contention ... 🤨 As you have correctly relayed, the Reformed view of Predestination came before John Calvin ever wrote his Institutes. As you have also correctly pointed out, the responses which produce the acronym TULIP was a reaction to the Arminians and took place long after Calvin had died. Therefore what we call "Calvinism" far predates him! I much prefer the phrase, "Doctrines of Sovereign Grace" (which you also mentioned) 😃 🤔 Perhaps the term "Calvinism" should refer to what we currently call the "Reformed View" since it so precisely defines those doctrines. - - - P.S. Do you have an answer for the "all " question? (If not perhaps I can share my answer with you.)
I have an answer for the “all” “all mankind” “all men” “whoever” etc... question. God means exactly what He says. Do not allow philosophy to be a part of your faith. Calvinism is 100% man made philosophy
All means out of all nations he chose his elect not all people of all nations but some people of all nations. It is so simple, if Jesus died for all mankind then everybody would be saved. We know people are lost and destined for hell, so those people are not of his sheep, not his elect and not his chosen. John 10:11, 26-29.
@@dwashington1333 Well if Jesus dying is the only thing that it takes for us to be saved and yes of Jesus died for all mankind then all will be saved. But, only those who believe have eternal life. Jesus made a way for us to be reconciled to God. Everyone is welcome and urged to be reconciled to God.
@@dwashington1333 I think when God says all he means all. He’s not giving us some weird puzzle to solve. He’s clear and concise and he’s given us discernment and wisdom to be able to understand and believe or reject the truth. We are made in his image.
2:31 Allie says, "Let us set up TULIP from a quote from...Martin Luther, himself, in his work 'Bondage of the Will." "I condemn and reject as nothing but error all doctrines which exalt our quote "free will" as being directly opposed to this mediation and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ for sins. Apart from Christ, sin and death are our masters and the devil is our god and prince. There can be no strength of power, no wit or wisdom, by which we can fit or fashion ourselves for righteousness and life." 3:09 After quoting Martin Luther, she says, "And that is a very good summation of what reformed protestants and Calvinists believe. Allie is confusing and conflating reformed Protestantism with Protestantism. Using today's vernacular, "Reformed" is synonymous with "Calvinism". But not all denominations that came out of the Reformation are "reformed" or "Calvinistic". There are many denominations that are reformed and non-Calvinistic. Thus, all non-Calvinistic mainline Protestant Christian denominations would mostly agree with Martin Luther's quote. The Bible teaches in Romans 6 that those who are baptized into Christ are transformed from a slave of sin to a slave of righteousness. Those who walk in the spirit crucify the deeds of their flesh and walk in holiness and righteousness toward God (this is the sanctification process that takes a lifetime). No Christian Protestant denomination (Calvinistic or not) would assert that we could "by strength of power or by wit or wisdom, fit or fashion ourselves for righteousness and life." Of course this righteousness and life come from our death, burial and resurrection, IN CHRIST, as we take part in HIS death, burial and resurrection, through faith and baptism into Him. What's the point? Allie Beth Stuckey is NOT making any distinctive Calvinistic teaching. What she asserts is a "good summation" of "reformed" or "Calvinistic" belief is actually something ALL (not just Calvinistic) denominations believe. Calvinists have their own special doctrine (TULIP) that makes Calvinism distinct, or different. I feel that by starting this teaching with something that most or all Christian denominations believe, and by asserting this "good summation" is what Calvinists believe, rather than all mainline Christian denominations (excluding word of faith, etc) she is wrongly excluding other denominations that hold to the same belief, and is NOT making any distinction between Calvinism and non-Calvinism. In other words, she just used the bait and switch. Calvinism (whatever that is because Marin Luther's quote does not address Calvinism) believes something that even non-Calvinists believe. Therefore, Calvinism is true. No! It doesn't work that way.
Paul already answered that criticism in Romans. On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? - Romans 9:20
Apologies first for all of the rude a-holes. I also disagree with your theology, but there's no call for this kind of rudeness. My name critique for people I have from the Calvin's perspective is that most Calvinists sound the same when they talk. There really isn't much diversity when defending Calvinism. I noticed this first in college because most of my friends were Calvinists. I noticed later when I started to look into some calvinist theologians. Even when there are differences, they all take the same basic approach to the same basic passages. My second critique is that most Calvinists really don't understand the other side. I attended a calvinist church for about a year-and-a-half and I can firmly say that Pastor had no idea what the opposition believes. I'm happy to talk with anyone, but I'm ready to hear something different then what I've heard before
Lots of good debates out there, but I would suggest this one for staying on topic and avoiding violations of debate rules. ruclips.net/video/yEU2IuC1d24/видео.html
@@pr073u569 debates are fine and all oh, I just don't see support for Calvinism in Scripture. Romans 9 is about the election of Israel as a people, not individuals. Ephesians 1 about the church as a whole, not individuals. Calvinism has a bad habit of taking things meant for a group and personalizing it too far. That's why I'm not a calvinist. All the passage I've seen that are said to be supported for Calvinism when I study them I find to be misused
@@OneOuttaOne Hey brother. While I vehemently oppose calvinism for all 26 years of my salvation, I disagree with your basic analysis of Eph 1 and Rom 9. If you care to hear another non-calvinistic viewpoint on both, I'd be happy to dialogue.
Is it possible to love God, to repent and trust in Jesus, and still be predestined by God for damnation? If so, what is the assurance of our salvation under Calvinist doctrine? Also, how does Evangelism fit in?
@@leonardu6094 can you be a little more explicit? What of Calvinism is anti-Biblical? For example, the concept of predestination is throughout the Old and New Testaments. So can you expound on your comment?
@@bretwalker2295 By anti-biblical i meant the TULIP system. There's no Christian who denies predestination as a biblical concept, we just deny the Calvinist understanding of predestination.
@@bretwalker2295 I'm not going to go through a whole systematic refutation of TULIP in a youtube comment section lol. I'll do this one though; I'll tackle the first Letter T (total depravity) in TULIP . Total depravity claims, as a consequence of the fall, every person born into the world is enslaved to the service of sin as a result of their fallen nature and, apart from the efficacious (irresistible) or prevenient, is completely unable to choose by themselves to follow God, refrain from evil, or accept the gift of salvation as it is offered. Now this is bad alone as it is, but where the real problem comes for the calvinit is that they also affirm limited atonement and irresistible grace and believe that God has only chosen to save some humans (not all humans) and does this by irresistibly changing their will to want to follow him and love him. This doctrine is contradicted by Romans 1:20 where paul explicitly states and implies that EVERYBODY (all people) have been shown sufficient proof of God and have no excuse not to turn to him and follow him.
You will never find a perfect church, keep that in mind. But here is a link for a site from MacArthur's seminary that has a church finder. I can't guarantee that these will be good, but it should be a good place to start. www.tms.edu/find-a-church/
@Pk Amponn instead of doing eisegesis to even suggest the Bible, God's Word, would contradict itself of the message that Christ did die for a particular people, let's consider the context. John, the author, was speaking to Hebrews, with a message reassuring that salvation in Christ was not just for the Hebrews, but for the "world" as they know it: the Gentiles. Never including reprobates, as the Lord left them untouched while He enacted His Grace in instilling Faith in His elect.
I would find a church that uses the *inductive method* in their bible studies. Independent Baptists usually use the *inductive method*. Any church that adds a philosophy or an "ism" to understanding the bible, you can expect a watered down biblical teaching, comparing scripture to scripture with context is vital. However, even a verse by verse teaching can be infected by a presumptive belief or philosophy. So be vigilant! Lastly, avoid any church that yields their sense making faculties over to a man.
1 Timothy 2:4 verse has been twisted for so many years. all men/All people yes i totally agree , but the “all” does not mean all and every person head for head , but all kinds of men , just like verse 2 explains ..
You’re totally wrong. All means all. God wills all people to be saved. You’re allowing your TULIP heresy to cloud your brain. God is sovereign but He is not a tyrant. God calls everyone everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30), but does not compel repentance, instead freely offers to each and all sufficient grace to repent. Christ desired to gather the rebellious children of Jerusalem to himself, but it was man’s unwillingness which thwarted His desire (Matthew 23:37).
Yes Man 4 Jesus atonement was a definite one , not a potential one . Jesus only died for those that the father has given him and he will lose non, & Matthew 23:37 doesn’t refute tulip , it actually defends it if you only look what verse 13 says .. Acts 17:30 is a command not and option and not all will repent , we all know this .
@Wretched Saved by Grace Praised be Jesus Christ The question isn't whether the atonement was a definite or potential one. That's a bit of rhetorical non-sense that people like James White like to toss out to knock some people off-balance. It was a definite atonement. The question is: how are the benefits of Christ's atoning sacrifice applied to particular individuals? Most persons who believe in limited atonement would agree, I think, that Jesus's sacrifice - since it has infinite value - was sufficient for the sins of all men. Those who hold to limited atonement don't think it is limited because Jesus's sacrifice has limited finite value, but because God limits it's application to the Elect. And in a certain sense this is true, but that leads to the next question: who are the elect? On what basis does God choose some and not others? What mechanism did God put in place? Romans 8:28-30 explains that "all things work for the good of those who love God," and further explains that, "those He foreknew He also predestined." So predestination is based on God's foreknowledge: He foreknew who would love Him. It was this "foreknown" group whom He predestined to be conformed to the Image of His Son - and we are conformed to Christ's image by renouncing ourselves and taking up the cross, following Christ in the paschal mystery. Those whom God predestined he likewise called (to be conformed to Christ); those called persons who renounce themselves and take up their cross (for there is no other way to be conformed to Christ) are Justified by God (or declared to be in the Right); and those who were justified, are glorified, participating in the resurrected life because they shared with Jesus the way of the cross. So Scripture, when taken as a whole, affirms the synergistic view of salvation: that God draws man into a co-operative effort in effecting salvation, rather than the monergistic view invented by Calvin. Repentance is the necessary fist step (and indeed an on-going necessity) each person must take on the road of salvation. As you point out, God calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30), but not all men everywhere in fact do repent. God, because he is just, gives sufficient grace to repent to each and all, but grace is not irresistible - otherwise, it would not be grace - and therefore not all men repent. Many (perhaps most) resist God's call to repent and the fact that not all men everywhere repent demonstrates man's free will, for how else could anyone not comply with a command from God unless God allows men to disobey him? Conversely, that some men in some places do repent demonstrates that men must co-operate with grace in order to be saved, for how else could men, born slaves to sin, repent unless God grants sufficient grace to enable them? Matthew 23:37 illustrates that grace is resistible for Jesus states that he wanted to gather "the children of Jerusalem" together, but their unwillingness prevented it. Grace is resistible; Jesus did not get what He wanted but allowed the "children of Jerusalem" to thwart His desire. 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 does not address the issue of whether or not God desires all men to be saved. Paul is simply assuring and comforting the Thessalonian Christians, and encouraging them to persevere, because those who are persecuting the Thessalonians, who "do not acknowledge God" or "obey the Gospel of Jesus" will pay the "penalty of eternal ruin." It does not state that they are suffering this fate because God reprobated them beforehand, or predestined them to rebellion or hell. 2 Peter 2:9 likewise doesn't address the issue of whether or not God wills all to be saved. Here, Peter is encouraging his readers not to be deceived by false teachers, or be lead astray by false doctrines or seduced by the "licentious conduct of unprincipled people." There is no 3 Peter 3:7 in my New Testament. Peace.
There is no Christian content in Alley's talk! She is a 5-Point Reformed Calvinist not a Christian. Calvinism is a Cult , don't be deceived! Yes it is disappointing when these people don't realize that Satan is using them to be an enemy of the Cross! You will find her Calvinist testimony here Allie Beth Stuckey Explains Calvinism To Ben Shapiro Soteriology 101 Calvinists are knowingly or not knowingly guilty of : Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, guides! My words are not attacks but a warning to them and their victims. They describe Satan's character and apply that to God! They are kicking at the Holiness of God in the name of a man! The monster JOHN CALVIN. Satan's methods are always the same, because they work on humans. Puff them up and put this into their minds..... "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32 "DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22 Answer : YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID! Truth in Love
@@exeshesis751 She is just reading a script- a regurgitating of all the old Protestant heresies. All heretics have "quoted" scripture. I'd like to see her debate a Catholic apologist.
3:15 Allie Beth Stuckey attempt to support Martin Luther's statement with Scripture by asserting, "Of course we know that these words that Martin Luther uttered to be true according to Scripture; Ephesians 2 says we are dead apart from Christ and that neither the grace we are given nor the faith that we hold are our own doing, but are a gift from God so that no one may boast....we don't get to take credit for our salvation because even the faith that we hold is given to us by grace." Here, Allie Beth Stuckey gets into some distinctive doctrines of Calvinism. She gets several things wrong. Faith is not the gift of God. Salvation is the gift of God, and it has to be appropriated by faith in order for it to be by grace. Faith is being contrasted with works. If it were by works (rather than faith), then a person could boast. But it is not by works, but faith, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE BY grace. Calvinists wrongly associated faith as a work.
Would you interpret Galatians 6:10 “...let us do good to ALL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY to those who belong to the family of believers” then Tim 4:10 “....we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of ALL PEOPLE, and ESPECIALLY of those who believe.”
Here are some examples of Tim 4:10 meaning It means he is offered to all people, though not all receive him. (3) It means “the Savior of all people, namely, those who believe” (a different translation of Gk. malista, based on extrabiblical examples). (4) It means “the helper of all people,” taking Greek Sōtēr, “Savior,” to refer not to forgiveness of sins but to God’s common grace by which God helps and protects people in need. (5) It means “the Savior of all kinds of people, not Jews only but both Jews and Greeks.” In any case, the emphasis is on God’s care for the unsaved world, and in the flow of the letter Paul is stressing once more (cf. 2:3-5) that God’s will that people would be saved is the basis of the universal mission (cf. Matt. 28:19-20). On God as “Savior,” see note on 2 Tim. 1:8-10.
And also Catholics believe that salvation is by the grace of God, you are initially justified in faith and you live out your life cooperating with God’s grace allows you to merit increases in justification but the entirety of this is done is God’s grace, so Catholic’s believe ultimately that these supernatural good works are done because of God’s grace they are not Pelagians nor Semi Peligians lol
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom. A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch. ” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.” (D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.” (E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).” (F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.” (J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.” (H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.” 5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” ( F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.” (B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm (different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost calvinists! 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
I thought that women can't teach to men within Calvinist tradition, that is the teaching of our glorious pastor Macarthur. This video defiles holy doctrine. 1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
God is sovereign in all things, including salvation. 'not of works, it is a gift of God.' The only reason to believe in election is because it's found in the Bible, it's not a manmade doctrine. It's one of those doctrines which offends the unregenerate mind.
Election is a word. Means chosen. If you see it as a doctrine you have to admit it’s a man made one. Never once is the word referring to salvation in the Bible. Faith is not a work. Paul contrasts faith and works several times. You must believe to be saved and God wants all to believe, but many won’t because they surprise the truth. We are all made in his image, have the law written on our hearts, have a conscience that bears witness. God is love. He died for all mankind and the good news is for all not just some. Hope for all in the amazing g work if Jesus.
Desiring God....great title. Let's Calvinize it: "Desiring God because God elected me to do so before the foundation of the universe. You on the other hand...."
Easy , that's because this isn't an optional choice but all the believing. The word world is orderly arrangement for all the believing cause the word believeth is a present tense active verb meaning those in faith ,trusting in christ those who are born again . Cause verses earlier says you must be ^^born again"" did Jesus not say that earlier?
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Calvinism is the one Christianity that makes the least amount of sense.
Lk 24,25 is for you, because you don't want to believe in what Jesus Christ taught in John 3,3-8, John 5,24, John 6,37-40.44.63-65, John 8,34.36, John 10,11-16.26-29, John 15,16.19 and John 17.1-2.6-9. He taught these doctrines in other books too, but in the Book of John the most clearly!
Roman's and Ephesians are extremely calvinistic too... So who are we to answer back to God (Rom 9,20-21)?
@Jesus.is.my.saviour bro, no one believed in anything calvin until calvin. There is no church father that ever wrote anything calvinistic. Protestantism is a man made relgion with man made traditions.
I used to think the same fantasy as you when I was a lazy bum Arminian/Provisionist who did not search and learn the scriptures.
God's ways are not our ways.
Again. How can you have love without the choice to love.
Without God, we can not love anything on our own. Love doesn’t exist without God
@@mew2wins919 God is love . God wants genuine love from his creation and give his creation the choice to genuinely choose otherwise it wouldn’t be love. You can’t have love without the second party responding positively to the initiators love. Otherwise it’s force. No one comes to God. God calls everyone but only those who believe are chosen. That simple.
@Mew2Wins if God has to effectually change our nature then his love for us would be based on whether he chose us or not. It would be a conditional love as opposed to the unconditional love which is taught in the Bible.
@@mew2wins919 so, according to Calvinist philosophy (that’s all it is) God does not love everyone. God only loves the elect. God doesn’t not have unconditional love for his all His creation. That is blasphemy.
@@tyronebunyon7254 Brother I appreciate your comment and I hope mine finds you in good health. I would like to ask in light of the volume of scriptures that speak of God's judgment and wrath how can you affirm that God's love is unconditional?
Ms Stuckey, I was taught this exact doctrine - verbatim - when I was growing up. I was taught that we hate God the moment we are conceived. I was taught that God wrote a few names in the Book of Life before the foundation of the world, that those few names were the people chosen for salvation, and every other person ever created in the history of the universe was doomed to hell from the moment of conception. I was taught we hate God because He hated us first. I was taught that we are condemned for the way God decreed us to be. I was taught there are tiny children and infants suffering eternally in hell. I was taught we are not even capable of placing our faith in Him; that *He* does that *for* us, and to even presume to put our faith in Him by ourselves is a sin.
Do you know how old I was when I realized I was a sinner headed for hell? I was no older than 10. If I had a dime for every time a preacher described in the most graphic and frightening detail of what hell is like, I would be a very wealthy man. Conversely, I can literally count on one hand the number of times I heard any sort of description of heaven. Do you know how old I was when I realized, based on what I'd been taught, that I would go to hell when I died, and there was *absolutely* nothing I could do about it? *I was 14 years old.* I would have nightmares about Judgment Day beginning, and being condemned to hell, and I would wake up hyperventilating. Again, I was 14 years old. And I couldn't talk to anyone. I couldn't talk to my parents, because they were the ones *teaching* me this. I couldn't talk to my pastor, because my parents didn't agree with him on soteriological matters. I couldn't even talk to God, because I was convinced He didn't want me, and never loved me. I was completely, *utterly* alone. And the worst part was not even knowing that I *myself* would end up in hell. The worst part was knowing *the people I love* would also end up in hell. I distinctly remember having errant thoughts of pleading with God at the final judgment, begging him to spare my loved ones, and throw me into hell instead.
For the third time I feel the need to reiterate, I was 14 years old - a mere CHILD - when I was having these thoughts. But these thoughts were always trumped by what I had been taught: God's mercy and love is reserved for a few, and *only* a few. All the rest - millions upon millions of immortal souls - are doomed, with no possibility of salvation. I was on a railroad to eternal, unimaginable suffering, along with almost everyone I loved, with absolutely positively no way out.
And so I withdrew into myself. I lost interest in social interaction; I couldn't bear to make new friendships because I couldn't bear the burden of having even more loved ones in my life who would most likely go to hell. I lost interest in my education; long division and algebra wouldn't help me in hell. I lost interest in making any sort of preparations for the future. Because what was the point? I was going to hell anyway. And I lost interest in Christianity. God never wanted me, and Christ didn't die for me, so what was the point in pretending, especially since pretending was trying to attain my salvation through works, and therefore a sin? So I gave up hope, and quit.
I decided to make the most of the time I had left in life, and on the last day, I would tell God that *He* made *me* like this, and what kind of just God would damn anyone to an eternity of suffering for something *He* decreed before they were ever born, and had no control over? And then I buried it deep down. I put it out of my mind. I spent the next 15 years of my life adrift. Directionless. Meaningless. Joyless. But I still couldn't escape it. As it happens in life, people I loved passed away. Expectant friends of ours suffered miscarriages. The news would run stories of sweet little children losing battles with cancer. I was convinced they all went to hell, it devastated me beyond the ability to articulate with words, and I still had no one to turn to.
I am now 31, I've been going to an Orthodox church since August 25 of this year, and I am giving deep and serious thoughts toward converting. When I first walked in, I was overcome with emotion, and I was in tears throughout the service. From the moment I crossed the threshold, I knew I belonged, and even though my journey has only just begun, I have never felt more at peace and loved by God than I do now. Although I have many regrets, things I failed to do, things I missed out on, failing to return God's love when, I now know, He loved me all along, I am beginning to have faith in Him.
Surprised to read you were taught God hated you. Your formative years sound a bit like a long, long nightmare. God introduced me to Dr. J. Vernon Magee when I was struggling with my new faith in my Lord Jesus Christ. He explained predestination as God knows who will receive His Son. Everyone will have an opportunity to make a decision because God SO loved the world that He gave his Son to redeem us. Only God knows the future and, therefore, God will know who receives and who rejects. God loves us very, very much and will patiently woo us to Him. If you were to consider it like a man courting a women. After the courtship, he will declare his love and ask her to marry him. Do you believe he wants her to be his wife? It is, now, up to her to make the decision. Will she reject him or receive him?
God is courting the world. He is calling out a Bride (church) for his Son.
Amen Matt!
Once you get into church history, it's almost impossible to stay reformed. They were first called Christians at Antioch.
Calvinism is a heresy but so is Orthodoxy ! I don't know if you are willing to listen to what I have to say since some people are emotionally invested in their '' new denomination '' but i'm here to tell you that orthodoxy is as false as calvinism....there is a narrow path and it's not that one....
I can relate with your story! That is why I hate the Calvinist Reformed Cult system. It cripples, maims and destroys people who are truly looking for God. I heard of some who were suicidal as they couldn't stand not knowing.
Please Please go and watch these true preachers of God. They will set you free from Calvinism (on youtube)
Dave Hunt "What Love is this."
Soteriology 101 Dr Leighton Flowers
David Pawson
Moriel TV Jacob
Mike Winger
And remember these words from the real GOD!
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Acts 2 :21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 This promise belongs to you and your children and to all who are far off-....
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Truth In Love
How Can you calvinists Claim that JESUS "Didn't" die for Everyone, But "Only" the elect??!!!!! This Isn't In The Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus said He came to lay down His life for the sheep.
Oh, but it IS in the Bible (many more exclamation points)! [Fun query: Does the number of exclamation points make it automatically God's Holy and Infallible Word?] LOL.
Then Jesus died for people predestined to hell????? You realize that’s the implication you’re proposing ( unconsciously I’m sure) for those he fore knew he predestined. I find people that have a hard time excepting Calvinism are usually too weak spiritually to do so .
Certainly limited atonement can be biblically proven through Bible verse exegesis. But what if you could see that the Arminian/Provisionist atonement schema was impossible? I mean impossible like you cannot get there from here impossible? Let's use both Bible passages and Bible logic.
First, you yourself most definitely believe in limited atonement. Otherwise, you would believe in universal atonement. And there are some Christians, however mixed up, who believe that everyone is saved. You are a limited woman on this issue.
But let's put this to the test. Pick your favorite OT lost person. Do you like Goliath? Pharoah? Ahab? Jezebel? Any will do.
According to Jesus in the NT, where are these folks right now and what are they doing? They are in Hell, experiencing forever the wrath of God against them, having died in their sins, and now paying for their sinfulness throughout eternity.
Now back to Jesus. If, say, Ahab is at this very moment experiencing the wrath of God forever and ever for his sins, then how could a just, righteous, and loving God force His wrath upon His Son on the cross 880 years later to pay for Ahab's sins when Ahab has been doing just that already for 880 years before Calvary? To believe that, we have the situation of Christ being crucified again, something really condemned in Hebrews 6. A/Ps love to see Jesus placed in theological double jeopardy as He suffers on the cross.
Further, we also run afoul of Isaiah 53 wherein we have the depiction of the suffering servant (Jesus) seeing the travail of His soul and being satisfied. Not dissatisfied. Not worrying about Ahab still suffering for Ahab's sins despite what Jesus would attempt to do for him. And we don't have a truly angry Son of God wondering why the Father is making Him die in vain for someone in Hell forever anyway. Do you see the many problems here?
In other words, Isaiah 53 is saying that Jesus is not some kind of masochist who just likes to suffer for sin; instead He suffers for the sins of a particular people, in this case, the elect. And only the elect. A limited (like you and Calvinists would both agree on) albeit large group of people. Jesus prays about this very thing in John 17 when he declines to pray for the world. And our Dear Lord is satisfied in His great work to save these elect people. The people given to Christ by the Father for salvation. Again, John 17.
This one teaching from God's word destroys Arminian/Provisionism in one move since we see here from God's word that Christ did not die for everyone. He died for the elect. Have a problem with that? Talk to the judge.
That will preach all day. Amen.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
I can never share your link again now that you are promoting Calvinism over Kingdom of God. Calvinism divides the body. It says, believe exactly like this - TULIP, or you’re unbiblical, not mature enough, not enlightened enough. It is the age old heresy of Gnosticism in a modern, trendy dress. The gospel is simple, we are sinners before a holy God, Jesus died for those sins, believe and be saved. Calvinism makes doctrine more important than the truth that God’s ways are greater than ours and we cannot explain the miracle of salvation. They need to be able to explain it. You’re need to promote Calvinism / doctrine instead of Jesus reveals it as the false gospel it is.
You are disoriented. You have theological vertigo. Remember when Jesus asks his disciples "who do people say that I the Son of Man am"? The disciples then and you and I now cannot begin to answer that question without being theologians.
Theology sets the boundaries of our beliefs about God. Your comment above demonstrates that you have a pretty wishy washy boundary which will one day cause you to believe just about anything when it comes to Jesus Christ. Stick with a careful study of God's word, avoid the Gnosticism you have just avowed, and look unto Coram Deo, the face of Christ.
God bless you in your walk with Him.
Jesus Christ is not Calvinist. 🎚📖🙏🏼
Jesus Christ is a Calvinist. 🎚📖🙏
@JJ Wurtz
Heck, no problem, I was being snarky myself. The Protestant (and Calvinist) claim is that WE are the Catholic Church rather than Rome. (Rome’s claims of being the original church is exactly what we’re “protesting”!)
In that event, your church was “founded” in 1546 with the Council of Trent (and some would say that you were re-established in 1963 or so with Vatican II). It’s all a matter of perspective. Like Doug Wilson-a Reformed theologian-asks, “Where was your face before you washed it?” The Reformation was a face scrubbing that the “one, true church” was in desperate need of. The Protestant Church didn’t begin in 1517. The One, True Church started getting its act cleaned up then.
@JJ Wurtz
There’s something you should understand. EVERY Christian on God’s green earth believes that their denomination is the “one, true church” (or, at the very least, a PART of the “one, true church”). Nobody thinks that their church was made up “on a whim” by Joe Schmo in September of 1959. All of them would say that Christ founded their church.
I have absolutely no clue where you’d find the RCC in Scripture. That’s a real stretch. And, at any rate, it sounds like too Protestant of an undertaking.
If you don’t “re-“ anything, then what the heck is the Catholic RE-formation? (Or don’t you study history?)
If you really believe that Jesus didn't teach these doctrines, maybe you should carefully read John 3,3-8, John 6,37-40.44.63-65, John 8,34.36. John 10,11-16.26-29, John 15,16.19 and John 17.1-2.6-9.
And the Book of Roman's and Ephesians are clear as day too!
I believe that he wouldn't call himself a "Calvinist", but he taught these doctrines.
Of course not, silly. John Calvin is truly Christian. Jesus is Lord of all. As a famous Baptist once put it, Calvinism is just simply historic orthodox Christianity. It is what the original Christians believed. Charles Haddon Spurgeon.
This breaks my heart. I came to this video late after just watching another video where I’m clued in about the belief in Calvinism. I do believe people who believe reformed doctrine are brothers and sisters in Christ but I believe everything they believe about the Bible and God is basically messed up because of their basic view of God and salvation. You cannot view God as they do and not have it affect the way you interpret scripture and your view of people. Everyone I know that is a Christian that has changed to believe this doctrine did NOT change for the better and that is a whole lot of people as a church I went to secretly changed their doctrine and began to preach it slowly in the church. Once it became known and they could not hide it anymore and admitted they were changing to reformed theology they distinctly changed to diff kinds of people and not in good way. Anyone who has watched this video and is now confused feeling like wait this is not the God I have known and loved and feels their spirit is recoiling at this doctrine you are not alone. Please read the book, What Love is This? By Dave Hunt. God showed me that the recoil you are feeling is sort of like the first time people smoke a cigarette and their body recoils to it and they cough and gag. That is because your body is rejecting poison, that’s what happened to me the first time I smoked, but as I pushed it my body became more used to it and didn’t reject it anymore. My body excepted the poison and then almost enjoyed it. Your spirit is rejecting this doctrine and belief about and in God but can be forced to accept it and even revel in it in a strange way. I had a Calvinist who wasn’t always one that I went to church with who felt he had to believe it even if it made him sick tell me after awhile he didn’t feel sick thinking about God this way any more, he came to respect and accept it. I prayed about it and that’s when I feel like God gave me the cigarette analogy. When you know who God is and then someone tells you that this reformed theology is truly who God is your spirit automatically at least for most people gets sick and reacts with disgust and there is a reason for that. You have heard the argument for TULIP and now if you want to read and understand the true heart of God for humanity and why this is a false doctrine read What Love is This. I thank God he led me to this book and delivered me from the snare of a false doctrine that my spirit was rebelling against. God is NOT who calvanism says He is and you can be set free from that belief ❤️❤️❤️
Amen! Calvinism does not change people for the better. I became a Calvinist because I understood the benefits of Calvinism. It was a mechanism to get my worldly desires. Very few will come to understand what Calvinism truly is because it is one of Satans craftiest tricks.
Calvinists aren’t saved they have changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image like to corruptible man. A good tree CANNOT Bring forth evil fruit Matthew 7:18
I agree Donna
Another good book to read about this would be God's Word, the Bible. Whatever :"icky" feelings we have about this or that, we defer to what God is saying in His "living and active" Word. Heaven and earth will pass away, but God's Word will not. I would suggest Ephesians 2:8-10. By the way, I'm not a "Calivinist" myself, but wherever Calvinism agrees with God's Word, I believe.
I needed to hear this so badly. Thank you so much for sharing this as I have been struggling with going to church and not understanding why. When I read the Bible for myself and ask the Holy Spirit for help, it doesn't always match what my pastors teach and it has left me lonely and confused. Thank you.
Allie, I enjoy your podcasts so much! I have so much respect for you! I do, however, disagree with Calvinism and wish you could have Leighton Flowers on your show to discuss Calvinism vs. Traditionalism (Provisionism). Leighton is so gracious and loving. Your listeners would very much enjoy it! Bless you and your ministry!
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
It took me hour and a half to watch this video cause I kept stopping to take notes . ( which was great r cause I got to look at her face a lot ) her husband truly has found a woman of valor ,who’s worth is far beyond rubies. May all of My brothers find such favor in the Lord❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I just discovered you on Candace Owens and was so inspired by your faith, and now I find you also observe Reformed Theology! I feel like I just hit the lottery!!! I graduated with my Bachelor's in Religion for Biblical and Theological Studies last year from Liberty and while I started as a dispensationalist, I gradually became reformed as I started noticing that the texts in my more advanced courses were usually written by Calvinists so I really started diving deep into Romans and Ephesians. I was also ordained as a deacon at a reformed Church about 6 months before graduation. Now I'm a huge Spurgeon, Packer, and Piper reader... and MacArthur of course for my Study Bible. So, so truly glad I found your channel and appreciate your bravery in sharing Reformed Theology in an already hostile environment for Christianity. I pray your channel grows exponentially! Many more Christians need to understand the full meaning of their Bible.
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom.
A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch.
” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.”
(D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.”
(E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).”
(F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.”
(J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.”
(H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.”
5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” (
F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.”
(B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.”
A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm
B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm
C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html
D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm
E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml
F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html
G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm
H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm
I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html
J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm
(different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm
John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net
TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost calvinists!
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Calvinism is false.
It is pure gnosticism.
Augustine (where these beliefs came from)
was a Manichean gnostic who "converted" to the Roman church.
No Christian, no Church Father believed or taught these things until Augustine in the 4th century.
It was refuted and called pagan until then.
Calvin was enthralled with Augustine and quoted him over 4000 times in his writing.
The god of Calvinism is the the god of gnosticism.
An evil twisted god who is the author of all evil things and he gets pleasure in making people do evil and then more please when he sends them to hell for what he forced them to do and he sends babies to hell (read the works of Augustine and Calvin)
The God of the Bible is a perfect loving God who desires all to come to him. He says "turn to me and be saved" he weeps over Jerusalem and he came to earth and died for the sins of the WORLD.
That last bit seems to be the part most critics of the 5 points ignore.
Prior to acknowledging god’s sovereignty and being awakened by the Holy Spirit, I was a non-believer... an atheist if you will. As an atheist, I got married to my wife (who was also an atheist), and while still sinners, we both always tried to live our lives as honest as possible. Then, one day, we both were simultaneously called to Christ. I always wrestled with understanding how this happened, then I came across the 5 points, and the answer became clear. It also became clear that the Holy Spirit was always there, even as we rejected God, as we went through difficult times, we persevered. We are now 16 years together and have 2 children.... completely aware that god is in control. When people ask “why do good acts if you are pre-destined” the answer is simple... doing good acts is irresistible and you simply cannot choose not to do good when god is in control.
This truth brings great peace, which is the word of god.
R.C Sproul agrees 100% with John Piper and John MacArthur on this quote
John Piper " God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that HE HIMSELF BRINGS ABOUT THESE EVIL aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4).
This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . .
So from these I take it god bars access to salvation, dooms people from the womb to destruction and brings about all evil.
Heh! I quoted word for word! Its easy for you to say I am ignorant of Reformed theology and scripture.
Please tell us all what these quotes mean?
Jesus didn't stop calling people to Him and I will not stop either!
“I love those who love me, and those who diligently seek me will find me. Proverbs 8:17
But from there, you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul. Deuteronomy 4:29
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. Luke 11:9-10
‘You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:13
Satan Hates every verse above!
His followers also hate them.
The big problem is satans followers think they are defending John Calvin's gospel as they have been brain washed to see as the truth. But it is really satan's gospel they defend.
Life is too short to play games. Eternity is at stake.
The "ELECT" is the name for humans that have become adopted into Gods family through their repenting and being baptized.
The Angels are called His Elect Angels. Once again a name for a group of Holy Angels. (Nothing to do with salvation)
It is not a title for the selective, lottery salvation winners, of Calvinism.
God calls Israel His “elect” or “chosen” people. It has nothing to do with salvation or every Jew would be saved.
Chosen and election mean the same thing. It is always used for title of a group, or what service God has offered for you to do if you are willing.
It NEVER is about salvation or condemnation by God!
Salvation is available to ALL.
We simply, or not so simply, have to reach out and take hold of the life preserver held out in front of us.
TRUTH IN LOVE
I am going to suggest you view these teachers who are truly men of God and honest in their handling of the scriptures, you will be blessed by them. They are on youtube.
1. What love is this Dave Hunt
2. Soteriology 101 Dr Leighten Flowers
3. Mike Winger
4. David Pawson
5. Moriel TV
TRUTH IN LOVE
Amen brother I was atheist also I like to think because they way I lived makes this truth easier for me to accept.
Please don't be an aggressive calivinist. I disagree with Calvinists but believe we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
@@exploringtheologychannel1697 yep you both are lawless pagans who do not keep Sabbath or the other 9 commandments
Yes! Thank you! I disagree pretty vehemently with Calvinist doctrine, but they still acknowledge that faith in Christ is the one and only thing that saves. While I disagree with their soteriological views, they are still my brothers. Romans 14 on this point is pretty clear.
@@greyknight627 Romans was written by the antichrist Paul. the same man who showed up at the end of the 70th week, defiled the temple and attacked the 12 apostles. calvinist are not saved. they follow antichrist paul
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 What's your reasoning and evidence for coming to this conclusion?
@@greyknight627 look up false apostle Paul. the evidence against him is great. if you want i will send links for you to examine
And do calvinists believe that we are still under the law? My wife and i attended 2 different calvinist churches, and one said according to Psalm 119 we are still under the law.
The other church had the pastor on 2 separate occasions say he didnt know if he was saved!!!
Ridiculous
@Alan Cranebeginning in Exodus 20 verse 1, The Lord through moses states the new administration to the people He "brought out of the land of egypt".
My family is not Jewish, so wouldn't apply to us, even if we were unbelievers?
The Law is paused during the present age of grace, but would resume after the rapture, where works will be required during tribulation and millenium.
Romans 10:4 KJV
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
@@MikeDiaz_BibleBeliever Why is 'everyone that believeth' AND NOT 'everyone that God caused to believeth' Wouldn't that be more accurate if Calvinism were true?
Just asking?
Read Ken Wilson's recent book "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism", to see why Augustine had to deny free will in order to justify infant baptism. Since the child had not come to faith, it must be based on the will of another. It could have nothing to do with the will of the child.
ruclips.net/video/YTSEh1o8HdE/видео.html
better read would be James White's The potters freedom.
@@dfischer1709 the most honest thing would be to read both and assess the arguments for yourself
From what I understand, Calvinism has roots in Augustinanism. Augustine was very influenced by Gnosticism and Determinism. This is a good topic to do some research on to confirm, and understand how this all fits together.
The acrostic TULIP was actually first used at Princeton Theological Seminary in 1905 to attempt to make the text from the Synod of Dort easier to teach to laymen. TULIP is consistent with the Dutch text and is also consistent with the writings of John Calvin, but I believe the original text was in Latin, then translated to Dutch, English and other European languages.
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
@@dougy6237 Nobody is saying Calvin is their God. Good grief.
Allie, when you read Ephesians 1:
Forget everything that John Piper says about Ephesians 1 for 3 hours and slowly go through it verse by verse multiple times and allow yourself to have questions and not make assumptions about who the “we, us, and you” are. Remember ALL scripture is FOR YOU but NOT ALL scripture is TO YOU. Ephesians one is written to the believers of the Church that is in Ephesus. Remember Paul writes letters to specific people and groups of people for specific reasons, in service of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The modern chapter divisions must be ignored when we are reading scripture to UNDERSTAND what it is SAYING on the page. The original purpose of the original author to the original audience in the original context that it is written.
Cross texts to keep in mind, some are used for general context and some are used to give understanding to verses or sections:
(John 16 & 17) (Acts 10) (Acts 19 & 20) (Paul's Epistles) (Romans 1:16-17) (Habakkuk) (Romans 8:9-11) (Romans 8:18-25) (Romans 8:28-30) (Matthew 7:21-23) (Revelation 2 & 3)
Breaking down Ephesians 1
Verses 1-2: (Paul's Epistles)
Paul uses his standard greeting almost all of his epistles begin with him appealing to his office of apostleship toward those whom he is writing except for maybe the Thessalonians and Hebrews if he wrote Hebrews which it is highly possible.
Verses 3-12: (Romans 8:9-15) (Romans 8:18-25) (Romans 8:28-30) (Matthew 7:21-23) (Romans 1:16-17)
Before assuming the we and us include the Ephesians read all the way through to verse 12. In Romans 8:23 Paul states explicitly what the “adoption” itself actually is. So Paul says “we/us” (not assuming who the we and us are) “in Him/in Christ” (the most important qualifier) were chosen before the foundation of the world “THAT” (this is connecting the people chosen to the purpose for which they were chosen) and that god has predestined (the) us TO adoption (Romans 8:23). He opens saying people were chosen to receive blessings and then he goes on to list all of the blessings. One of these blessings is the mystery which was made known “TO US… THAT” (connecting the mystery made known to them to the reason for which it was made known) God’s purpose might be fulfilled. Then Paul lists more blessings which are available only IN CHRIST. “THAT” WE WHO FIRST TRUSTED IN CHRIST “should be” (connecting “we who were the first to hope in Christ” according to the ESV which demonstrates that this refers to the first people to believe in Jesus to “being”) to the praise of His Glory.
QUESTION: Were the Ephesians the first people to trust in Christ? You will find your answer in the Gospels, in Acts as well as in Romans 1:16-17. This is not the only clue within Ephesians 1 itself that demonstrates the Ephesians are not included in what Paul says in verses 3-12. Keep reading.
Verses 13-19: (John 16 & 17) (Acts 10)
After Paul discusses all of the spiritual blessings that seemingly he and the apostles were chosen for and predestined to receive along with “the mystery” spoken of in this passage which I believe is shown in Acts 10, Paul then states that the Ephesian believers ALSO received all the blessings AFTER they heard the Gospel and having BELIEVED it, being placed in Christ by the sealing of the Holy Spirit which brings with it promises, blessings and inheritance. Then he goes forward stating that he prays that God would give them the spirit of revelation having the eyes of their understanding opened THAT they may know God’s great power towards BELIEVERS (not unbelievers unto belief). This may or may not have something to do with the mystery, but it definitely has to do with the blessings. But if Paul was talking about the Ephesians earlier in verses 3-12 not only would the Ephesians have to be the first people to trust in Christ according to the text, but Paul has totally FORGOTTEN that all these blessings and mystery were already made known to the Ephesian believers and have been fully realized by them, therefore his prayer is redundant and makes zero sense. You have been predestined to know that 2 + 2 = 4 and the fact that 2 + 2 = 4 has been revealed to you, therefore, I pray that you may know that 2 + 2 = 4.
The rest pretty much talks about how awesome God is and all of this is only because of the power he worked in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Paul is known to forget his cloak places (2 Timothy 4:13) and sometimes who/how many people he has baptized (1 Corinthians 1:16), BUT he DOES NOT forget the TRUTH revealed to him by the Lord of Glory who appeared to him on the road to Damascus. He was not won to Christ by the Calvinist definition of “regeneration” but by Jesus LITERALLY appearing before him, rebuking him, blinding him, and commanding him to the service of the Gospel. Paul was Zealous for God before he believed in Jesus but he had the veil over his eyes (2 Corinthians 3:12-16), Paul also says “I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died.” (Romans 7:9). If everyone throughout the bible and today are by the immutable, pre-determined, sovereignly chosen, and unchangeable decree of God pronounced dead (Paul didn't literally die after the law "came alive" in him, he is obviously talking about spiritual death) before we are even born, then how was Paul once alive? He is obviously talking spiritual life. If he was regenerate how could he die spiritually? I think if you are honest with yourself and hold the actual text of scripture above John Piper and the "giants of the faith" you know the answer.
Also, when Paul turned to the Lord as he lays out in 2 Corinthians 3, the veil was removed. (2 Corinthians 3: 12-16)
So we have the question: what came first?
Read all of 1 Corinthians 15, he discusses what came first and why it matters. When Jesus appeared to him Paul responded in belief not due to some internal extra working of the Holy Spirit, but because Jesus “pulled up” and said “Cash me outside howbowdat.” And Paul having seen God, whom he was zealous for, knowing the disobedience, sin and blasphemy that he had committed against Him, and he “understood the assignment” and said “bet, full send.” Thomas also did not come to believe in Jesus due to some inward effectual working. He said “I will NOT believe UNLESS I SEE and TOUCH the wounds. And God being merciful, Jesus allowed him those requests and he believed.
The bible believers issue with Calvinism has nothing to do with free will and exalting men, it has everything to do with THE AUTHORITY OF SCRIPTURE and WHAT SCRIPTURE actually SAYS and the propensity for the Calvinist to run from it. I do not make this comment to belittle, to hurt or to be rude. But this is how iron sharpens iron, if you have ever heard the sound of metal being grinded against each other, I have worked sharpening knives for 7 years, and been to the factory where they make our knives. it is not a soft sound, as brothers and sisters in Christ we must be able to in love, including tough love come together and seriously take our understandings and compare it side by side with the text of SCRIPTURE. Not RC Sproul, not John Piper, not John Macarthur, not AW Pink, not even AW Tozer or CS Lewis which neither of those two are reformed. But ONLY SCRIPTURE.
We must put our money where our mouth is when it comes to SOLA SCRIPTURA! Other than the silly theology you hold to i love your content and greatly appreciate that you unashamedly lift up the name of Jesus Christ! God Bless and may the piece and love of Jesus Christ be with you always!
Hebrews 2:9
It's crazy how many of these verses are cherry picked and taken out of context bruh. Like it's insane 💀
It's quite possible that Luther and Calvin are debating calvinism together in hell. That's not my position, but theirs.
How can you have an intimate relationship with our God and know His goodness AND actually believe in Calvinism. It’s totally contrary to His nature. I personally do not believe that Calvinists are saved. I do however believe that there are people who title themselves Calvinists or listen to Calvinist preachers, who haven’t fully understood what Calvin taught or who he was as a man, that are saved but sadly uninformed and unstudied about the heresy of this teaching.
Just like JWs, Mormons, Hebrew Roots…it’s a cult. TULIP wasn’t even introduced until the early 1900s. Calvinism has taken off right along with ALL THE OTHER false teachings of the last centuries.
Just because it’s old doesn’t mean it’s valid! Jesus warned us that the blind lead the blind and they would ALL fall in a pit. That a direct reference to hell because he’ll is a PIT.
Don’t follow the teaching of a man, modern or old! Follow only Jesus and let the Holy Spirit teach you the Word.
I think I understand where you are coming from: The first 2,5 years of my walk with Christ I didn't embrace what is called calvinism, instead I argued against them, because they didn't made sense to me.
After two years I started reading the first time in my life through the whole Bible, and was confronted with many texts I never thought about. After 9 months of reading scripture for one, sometimes two hour per day, I started believing more and more in these doctrines. First I didn't like what happened to me, because they still didn't made sense and didn't fit with my prefered view of god, I hold.
But: I felt forced to believe in these doctrines of grace especially because of the main texts like Romans 3,9-19, John 6,44 (Point 1), John 15,16, Romans 9,10-23 (Point 2), Matthew 1,21, John 17,6.9 (Point 3), John 1,12-13, Acts 16,14 (Point 4), Philippians 1,6 and 1John 2,19 (Point 5) and many others. How would you interpret these texts from a non-calvinistic viewpoint?
Please listen and consider to what is said in this video:
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After that please watch these testimonies.
All these videos are really short.
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May god bless you!
@@Jesus.is.my.saviour AMEN GLORY AND PASS THE BISCUITS. Well said.
If anyone is interested in learning more about reformed theology I highly recommend the late RC Sproul's ministry Ligonier. They are comprised of some of the leading reformed theologians along with RC's teachings. They focus on reformed theology, classical apologetics, church history and philosophy.
I highly recommend staying away from man made doctrines and sticking with scripture. I was lead astray for 17 years in calvanism. Please read the word!
@@AlanaL3 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. ~Romans 9:16
"does not depend on human desire"
Our will has nothing to do with whether we are saved or not.
@@AlanaL3 Can you tell me more about it?
Sproul is practically satans right hand man. He has done more damage to the work of Christ than even John MacArthur and John Piper. He is so smooth and sincere in the way he weaves the calvinist poison its hard to see it go down.
Stay away from him and everything he has anything to do with.
@@truth7416 You do know what Romans 9:16 means right? You understand what "does not depend on human desire" means right? Or John 1:13 where he explicitly says salvation is not by the will of man but by the will of God. If you are wrong, you will be found to be preaching a false gospel since you are dogmatic about it.
People can read and have common sense. They can see what Calvinism is and what Christianity is.
Christianity = This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
Fake Christianity ( Reformed Calvinism) = God arranges all things by his sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death and are to glorify him by their destruction. John Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6
No active cult member knows he is in a Cult! Wake up!
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christianity= not keeping the 10 commandments. totally satanic religion
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 Narcissist injury lawyer=Satanic
@@raymatthews4319 your point?
You must read the Bible for all its worth. Forget the Calvinism category, all it whatever you want, but to say that doctrines of grace are fake Christianity is to say Bible is fake.
Those verses you quote that appear to contradict Reformed theology can easily be explained. Most, untrained individuals in Biblical exposition and hermeneutics typically has your reaction. Which, btw, doesn't change what the Bible teaches.
@@ernestojlassus1354 You say ... "Those verses you quote that appear to contradict Reformed theology can easily be explained."
What your really saying is that, the verses which are Gods Words not mine can, be "Explained away!"
That is what all Calvinists do to defend Calvinism and the Cult!
The next thing ALL Calvinists do is say. "You don't understand Calvinism.
Every Christian understands Calvinism to be a Cult. The ONLY ones who don't understand what Calvinism is, is "The Calvinist!"
Name one Cult, that the Cult member knows he is in a Cult? None!
Wake up your in a Cult pretending to be a Christian denomination.
Anyone interested in the real Gospel of Jesus Christ?
Listen to these true men of God preaching the truth. (RUclips)
Dave Hunt "What Love is this."
Soteriology 101 Dr Leighton Flowers
David Pawson
Moriel TV Jacob
Mike Winger
And remember these words from the real GOD!
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Acts 2 :21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 This promise belongs to you and your children and to all who are far off-....
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Truth In Love
Praying that people follow Jesus and not Calvin or piper and all these calvinists. Praying that their blinders come off.
The only condition that God puts on salvation is that the person receives it because they they desire it and THEY put their faith in Him.
But wait I almost forgot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you take every time the scriptures says "World" which is 20 times and twist and force it to say Elect
If you take every time the scriptures says "Whoever" which is 16 times and twist and force it to say Elect
If you take every time the scriptures says "Whosoever" which is 16 times and twist and force it to say Elect
If you take every time the scriptures says "All" which is 16 times and twist and force it to say Elect
If you take every time the scriptures says "Everyman" which is 6 times and twist and force it to say Elect
Then yes Calvin got it right. and Reformed Theology is true! WINK WINK
Even the cult of the Mormons and the Jehovah Witnesses could take twisting lessons from the Deformed Theology pretending to be Christianity.
TRUTH IN LOVE
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom.
A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch.
” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.”
(D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.”
(E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).”
(F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.”
(J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.”
(H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.”
5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” (
F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.”
(B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.”
A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm
B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm
C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html
D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm
E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml
F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html
G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm
H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm
I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html
J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm
(different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm
John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net
TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost calvinists!
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
What about God’s will that all be saved? John 3:16?
John 3:16 says that "whosoever believes", in other words, all the believing ones will be saved.
- GLORY HALLELUJAH - Your use of the word draw(n) - the Holy Spirit has to "draw" us in - is really speaking volumes to me during this session .
The Bible says No one can come to the Father unless God draws them, but Praise the Lord, Jesus drew us to himself through his death on the cross. John 12:32" And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men unto me.
Allie, I normally love your show and your work but there are plenty of biblical passages that directly contradict TULIP. Limited atonement is contradicted by 1st John 2:2 (“He is the propitiation for our sins and for not ours only but also for the sins of the whole world...”) as well as John 1:29, Romans 11:32, John 3:16-17, and 2nd Peter 2:1. I agree that we are sinful, that our hearts are wicked, that no one seeks God. But nowhere in the Bible does it teach an inability to believe the Word when it is preached to you. I would encourage people to research both sides and not just accept Calvinism as the only true biblical position. There are plenty of reputable non-Calvinists that hold scripture to the same authority as Calvinists- they just have different ways of interpreting the same texts: Romans 9, Ephesians 1 & 2, ect. If you do decide to believe Calvinism, remember that you are believing that God has predestined before anyone was ever born to send some to Heaven and some to Hell, that when you are witnessing you have no idea if you are talking to the elect or not. This makes sharing the gospel confusing- moreover, is it really the gospel, the good news? It is good news if God predetermined you as one of the elect before the foundations of the world. But if not? Please please research the other side, the traditionalist side before coming to a final conclusion on this.
Draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you. That's in James. I don't understand how they can justify calvinism when there are so many scriptures that contradict it.
Most of those verses that state "world" are meaning "from every tongue, tribe, and nation" not the entirety of the world. Propitiation is the quenching of wrath. If Jesus propitiated for the entire world then you are teaching universalism. Read those verses in their context, and you will quickly disprove your own point.
@@TheShandalala Romans 8:8 is pretty clear about the ability of anyone to do what is pleasing to God apart from regeneration as described in Deut 30:6, Ezek 36:26, and many others.
@ Kierstyn St. John Good post. I’d suggest Roger Olson for a fair treatment of Arminianism.
RedeemedOne I’m sorry but your interpretation is simply false; you are reading your systematic onto the text. In the Greek, the word used is “kosmos” which literally means: world, universe. You’ve also failed to make the distinction in the extent of atonement vs. application of atonement. Universalists believe yes, the extent of the atonement is universal, but also the application of the atonement is universal which I disagree with. Not all believe, so not all are saved. And don’t give me monergism vs. synergism- faith is not a meritorious work so simply believing something because you’ve heard the gospel and found it believable doesn’t make you a synergist.
0:48 "Salvation is....by grace alone. In Calvinism, grace is only extended to those whom God chose before time and outside of Christ. The rest, contrary to God's character as taught in the Bible, have no grace and, thus, no hope, but only a fearful expectation of hell. Allie Beth Stuckey is lucky, if she is actually chosen. High-Five, Alley, you're in!
Wow.
Before time but not outside of Christ.
@@eens9579 Wrong. We are not chosen TO BE in Christ. We are chosen in him.
Yeah I appreciate you presenting stuff against BLM and wokeness. But I’m gonna disagree with you on this particular doctrine.
Me too. Used to go along with it, until I studied the Word more. (Rev 3's threat to the church of Sardis just for starters)
@@JesusWantsU same!!! After 17 years stuck in it:( praise God though I’m out!!
@@AlanaL3 Although seemingly very credible testimony claims by Christians being shown Hell and seeing sin-clinging Christians there was a cold water in my face to investigate deeper, another point that motivated me was just taking it to its logical end. If we're forgiven of all future sins following redemption, then there's no reason to ever again ask forgiveness from God. That didn't sound right. It led me to make this brochure: ruclips.net/video/C5Cpw7d3ib0/видео.html
“I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
- John 17:9
20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
- John 17:20
Immediately before his passion, Jesus is praying for the Apostles and for those who will believe on Him through the Apostle’s word. Jesus said He is not praying for the world. This is clearly Limited Atonement. It would be inconsistent that Jesus would die for the whole world, but only pray for believers.
You inspired me until you embraced this tulip heresy.
That's a strong accusation without a shred of
evidence given.
That is what all Calvinists do to defend Calvinism and the Cult!
The next thing ALL Calvinists do is say. "You don't understand Calvinism.
Every Christian understands Calvinism to be a Cult. The ONLY ones who don't understand what Calvinism is, is "The Calvinist!"
Name one Cult, that the Cult member knows he is in a Cult? None!
Wake up your in a Cult pretending to be a Christian denomination.
Anyone interested in the real Gospel of Jesus Christ?
Listen to these true men of God preaching the truth. (RUclips)
Dave Hunt "What Love is this."
Soteriology 101 Dr Leighton Flowers
David Pawson
Moriel TV Jacob
Mike Winger
And remember these words from the real GOD!
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Acts 2 :21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 This promise belongs to you and your children and to all who are far off-....
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Truth In Love
I agree with you. I was just listening to another video of her and was clued in she is a Calvanist so I looked this up and bam there it is. So disappointing 😢
@@donnawojcik1271 Yes it is disappointing when these people don't realize that Satan is using them to be an enemy of the Cross!
You will find her Calvinist testimony here Allie Beth Stuckey Explains Calvinism To Ben Shapiro Soteriology 101
Calvinists are knowingly or not knowingly guilty of :
Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, guides!
My words are not attacks but a warning to them and their victims. They describe Satan's character and apply that to God! They are kicking at the Holiness of God in the name of a man! The monster JOHN CALVIN.
Satan's methods are always the same, because they work on humans. Puff them up and put this into their minds.....
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22
Answer : YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID!
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A heresy that most of the orthodox churches believes… ok.
I feel bad for the fact that people thinks God can't love them because of this doctrine. I recommend soteriology 101 .Examine verse by verse in context all the distorted meaning calvinism gives to the bible . I hope you can come out of this.
I just want to point out that while Prodastant Christians played a significant roll in the Revolution keep in mind that Washington was a Freemason, Occupies the throne of God in the apotheosis of washington in the capitol rotunda where he is depicted with one hand up and one down on the same manner as the baphomet. The Washington memorial is a giant Obolisk, which represents the phallus and the serpent, and he was also sculpted in the form of Zuse. Washington was no Christian no matter how much they tried to sell the idea that he was to the people of that time. He was a Freemason that likely worshiped Lucifer. Franklin was a mason and also part of the hellfire club. Jefferson made his own Bible and removed any passage that deified Jesus, including his mericles. In short, the high society intellectual class used the simple Bible believing Christians to fight their war and give them a country. But the plan, I believe, was eventually to do away with Christianity all together. Which was a goal of the enlightenment era also know as the age of reason. Which, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and many other signers of the declaration of independence students of and believed in.
Just a question for your own thoughts no response necessary- who benefits from you rescinding all the ideas of the forefathers of America? (I'm not saying you should believe and hold to everything they said, but who today will directly benefit from the tearing down of the traditional beliefs on which America was founded?).
The people who will benefit are those that are seeking the truth regardless of how it changes their image of their country. As Christian’s, we shouldn’t idolize our nations or governments. A good documentary to watch on this subject is Chris Pinto’s The Hidden Faith of Our Founding Fathers.
Thank you Allie. I like the way Martin Lloyd Jones sums it up:
I am a Calvinist; I believe in election and predestination; but I would not dream of putting it under the heading of essential. I put it under the heading of non-essential. You are not saved by your precise understanding of how this great salvation comes to you.
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Theologically, I can't accept 5 point Calvinism. It's way too involved to go into detail here, but there are plenty of moral and Biblical problems with it.
the thing that gets me is, if calvinism is correct, why even have a bible or even preach? nothing any of us do can change anything. it's already a puppet show.
@@exploringtheologychannel1697 taken to the logical conclusion calvinism does. we have no choice in anything. if we're predestined for hell it does no good to go to church and profess faith in Jesus because we're damned...literally.
4309chris Calvinism does not deny human responsibility. Both human responsibility and God’s sovereignty are both taught in Scripture. These twin truths that cannot be reconciled with our finite fallen minds. The error is when we demand a theology that reconciles to the extent of our satisfaction instead of bowing humbly before the revelation of Scripture. Calvinism does not say it is all figured out; Calvinism simply consistently presents what Scripture says even in areas that are difficult to handle. If your view places you on the side of the objections in Romans 9, then you are probably on the wrong side of the argument.
@@CaldwellApologetics well said:)
humanistic moral issues maybe but that is not the same as the biblical meaning of morality.
1 Timothy 2:3-6 New International Version 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
These are the truths that inspire us to fall on our knees before the Lord and worship Him in utter awe and reverence....Thank you Allie
@Pk Amponn God commands all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30), not just the elect. did you not watch the video? Allie addresses this truthfully when she says that the Bible says both that God alone chooses who He saves, but also that all men are held accountable for their sins. These two biblical facts do not contradict each other.
@Pk Amponn because he is a Holy God and His commands are Just, the point of the bible is that man does not want to repent
John Marchione the problem with Allie’s and Calvinists soteriological views is that it takes total inability to a place where man is no longer responsible. If we assume that man is totally unable to even respond positively to the Grace of the Lord, then man is no longer responsible for their evil because it isn’t up to them to receive salvation. This not only paints God in a really bad picture (talk about not looking good that your own creations cannot respond positively to you if you don’t make them; indicative of a poor creator who made such bad creations), it makes evangelism pointless (if prevenient grace is necessary before true acceptance of grace, then why waste the effort and let God do what he wants). Part of the problem of the concept of election/predestination is that Calvinism doesn’t exegete from the text. When the Bible talks about the elect/predestination, it merely refers to the fact that those who have faith in Christ (faith does not solely mean to believe by the way) will be saved as a predetermined fact. Calvinism isn’t based in scripture and the texts Allie cites do not mean what she thinks they mean (Romans never makes the claim for total inability, it makes the claim that we are so sinful we are not capable of saving ourselves without Christ, but it doesn’t remove our responsibility to embrace our faith in Him).
@@greyknight627 TULIP does not take the responsibility away from man but is revelation to mans nature and that is his hatred of God. This does paint God in a bad light but is a glories light where He takes His eneamies and reconciles them to Himself. I have heart for evangelizing all ppl and that's because faith comes by hearing and hearing th he word of God. Stop assuming what the bible says and let it speak for its self.
Ppl like you who think election is not fair never seem to worry about the fairness of the fallen angels, there is no gospel for them, but it is not about fairness because it was we would all be in hell with them no one would be saved.
@@JohnMarchione-y2p For starters, you assumed I do not think election is not fair, which is not what I said. That is a stretched interpretation of my words. What I actually said was that Calvinism/TULIP does not properly define election in the Bible (the definition of which I provided in my original response). I don't look at election as a matter of what's fair, I look at it in terms of what the Bible actually says. TULIP election isn't unfair because I it's not scriptural, or correct, in the first place.
In addition, your argument for individual accountability and evangelizing is not succinct: if faith comes by hearing the Word of God, then you cannot truly believe in the Total Depravity of TULIP. For example, R.C. Sproul confirms that reformed Calvinistic Theology teaches regeneration is what precedes faith under the doctrine of Total depravity; in other words, before regeneration, a sinner is dead until they're given a new nature by God, and only then can they believe (Sproul, "Chosen By God", page 72). The problem in this logic (which is NOT in the Bible by the way, Allie's citation of Romans is incorrect, rather Paul was talking about how, in our sinful nature, we cannot save ourselves because only Christ can do that) is that it means we are so depraved that we cannot respond positively EVEN when we hear the Word of God, unless God has previously regenerated our nature so we can respond positively. This is why I said evangelism is pointless under the TULIP model: if people are so depraved that they cannot respond positively to the Word of God without regeneration, then there isn't a point to evangelism because its solely up to God to regenerate the unbelievers, who, once given their new nature, will come to the Word on their own.
Which is more glorifying: a master chess player who can only play against himself so he can make all the necessary moves/pieces go where he wants them to; or, a master chess player who can flat out beat every person, of ever discernible skill level in the world? Obviously, the later is more worthy of glory/praise. The former is what TULIP and Calvinism claims is the state of God's sovereignty and the analysis I provided above is exemplified in this analogy.
Hi Allie. I wanted to say that God has really blessed you. I was born again and sanctified in an Assembly of God type church. It wasn’t until many years later after failing over and over again in obedience that the Lord showed me about the doctrines of grace! I had to completely come to the end of myself to understand the mighty hand of God. Thank you for your ministry. The Lord bless you as you continue to teach.
After 17 years of calvanism I’m free!!! Please hear all sides before following calvanism blindly. It’s seemingly so “rich and robust” but it completely misrepresents God and there is so much error in it.
Yes it is disappointing when these people don't realize that Satan is using them to be an enemy of the Cross!
You will find her Calvinist testimony here Allie Beth Stuckey Explains Calvinism To Ben Shapiro Soteriology 101
Calvinists are knowingly or not knowingly guilty of :
Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, guides!
My words are not attacks but a warning to them and their victims. They describe Satan's character and apply that to God! They are kicking at the Holiness of God in the name of a man! The monster JOHN CALVIN.
Satan's methods are always the same, because they work on humans. Puff them up and put this into their minds.....
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22
Answer : YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID!
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@@AlanaL3 High Alana. And that makes you free in deed! Nice to meet a friendly face. Keep on keeping on for Christ against the Calvinist Heresy.
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U say u don’t understand everything about calvanism. Thats ur problem. If u just read ur bible with the Holy Spirit leading u there’s no need to understand calvanism. Calvanism is confusion n whos the author of confusion? Ur a man follower Allie. Its time to examine urself. Please do.
I believe these passages display choice:
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
-Joshua 24:15
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
-Luke 13:34
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent
-Acts 17:30
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
-Revelation 2:21
Although I'm not a Calvinist, I have read Calvin's full Institutes and he was one of the foremost, greatest Christian minds ever to live. I don't believe Irresistible Grace but I do believe all the other Points though. I guess you could say I believe in TULPP instead of TULIP, the first P being Prevenient Grace.
J.D. Martin Theology Discussion Channel Well, even Calvin believed in "free will" though he didn't like the term because it was often misleading. Being dead in trespasses and sins we need the Spirit's work of regeneration to make us alive so that we can believe. This the Spirit does for each and every person who hears the gospel, each person regenerated (Genesis 6:3), but the Spirit will not continually strive with humans and ultimately the lost who God did not choose for salvation will remain lost, not because they were predestined to hell - no one is predestined to hell - but because of their sinful desires and choice not to believe in Christ. Ultimately, if one is saved, it's because God chose him or her, but if one is lost, it is their fault, not God's. We can't work it all out with our finite, puny minds that only understand time linearly, but simply must believe in both God's sovereign election and man's responsibility to believe.
prevenient grace puts man in charge of his own salvation. The gift of salvation is from God alone and since God is sovereign His call is effectual,
if not, He is not sovereign and thus not God.
Yes Calvin was a foremost great christian mind???? Really ??? Read about the man, its in public domain and won't be swept under the rug!
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom.
A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch.
” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.”
(D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.”
(E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).”
(F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.”
(J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.”
(H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.”
5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” (
F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.”
(B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.”
A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm
B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm
C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html
D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm
E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml
F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html
G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm
H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm
I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html
J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm
(different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm
John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net
TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost Calvinists!
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
R.C Sproul agrees 100% with John Piper and John MacArthur on this quote
John Piper " God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that HE HIMSELF BRINGS ABOUT THESE EVIL aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4).
This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . .
So from these I take it god bars access to salvation, dooms people from the womb to destruction and brings about all evil.
Heh! I quoted word for word! Its easy for you to say I am ignorant of Reformed theology and scripture.
Please tell us all what these quotes mean?
Jesus didn't stop calling people to Him and I will not stop either!
“I love those who love me, and those who diligently seek me will find me. Proverbs 8:17
But from there, you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul. Deuteronomy 4:29
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. Luke 11:9-10
‘You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:13
Satan Hates every verse above!
His followers also hate them.
The big problem is satans followers think they are defending John Calvin's gospel as they have been brain washed to see as the truth. But it is really satan's gospel they defend.
Life is too short to play games. Eternity is at stake.
The "ELECT" is the name for humans that have become adopted into Gods family through their repenting and being baptized.
The Angels are called His Elect Angels. Once again a name for a group of Holy Angels. (Nothing to do with salvation)
It is not a title for the selective, lottery salvation winners, of Calvinism.
God calls Israel His “elect” or “chosen” people. It has nothing to do with salvation or every Jew would be saved.
Chosen and election mean the same thing. It is always used for title of a group, or what service God has offered for you to do if you are willing.
It NEVER is about salvation or condemnation by God!
Salvation is available to ALL.
We simply, or not so simply, have to reach out and take hold of the life preserver held out in front of us.
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I am going to suggest you view these teachers who are truly men of God and honest in their handling of the scriptures, you will be blessed by them. They are on youtube.
1. What love is this Dave Hunt
2. Soteriology 101 Dr Leighten Flowers
3. Mike Winger
4. David Pawson
5. Moriel TV
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It is easy to say God elects people when you are the "elect/or Christian." Imagine telling someone that God created them solely to send them to hell. In this case, it is God's fault they sinned. Yes, you can say that there are verses that say God does not tempt people. In this case God did not predestine/predetermine everything, otherwise one is making a double-standard and telling God what He predestines/predetermines. Also verses in Ephesians and Romans literally refer to Christians and that easily debunks Calvinist teachings by referencing simple verses. 1 Timothy 2:6 and others clearly say God wants all to be saved. This is by no way a n exhaustive comment because I don't have time to write a book all day lol but hopefully this sheds light. I will say that I believe Calvinists are saved just as much as Christians that are not Calvinists but believe in Faith alone. Saying this comment with love and respect because I love your content Allie but I disagree heavily with Calvinism
Allie I have thought the world of you and enjoyed and agreed with so many of your discussions. Now knowing your deep down beliefs about Calvinism, I can no longer frequent your channel. I see no difference between the elitism of Calvinism and the elitism of the woke democrats, it's all about looking down on and feeling superior to your fellow man.
@Secret garden The Bible is filled with verses that teach how to be saved......Calvinism is an out and out abomination.
@Secret garden Since it's important to you to be right I'll let you have the last word, I have better things to do with my time than argue with Calvinists. God bless you.
Calvinism is not an abomination. My God is sovereign. Sorry about yours
@@toolegittoquit_001 God is sovereign but did not make us to be robots. He gave us choice. Sovereignty does not mean dictating every step of everything. It means being above all. You guys misuse a definition and use that to look down on others. By their fruits you shall know them. I don't even need to argue theologically. The smugness and pride of most Calvinists online shows me enough fruit and tells me of this wrong theology but guess what i won't do I still won't call your God who is my God different,. I still see you as a brother in Christ. But to you others are damned. May the Lord open the eyes of your understanding and give you humility
I don't believe that I ate chicken for lunch was predestinated but I believe our salvation is and Bible prophecies are. Ephesians Chapter 1 is undeniable for Bible believers.
Ephesians 1 is referring to how God predestined the body of christ as a whole, not individually.
And paul is writing to the saints whom accepted and believed the blood sacrifice of Jesus
@@joe_zeay Jesus said, "No man can come unto me unless my Father who sent me draws him" that sounds pretty individual to me not collective. Ephesians Chapter 2 sounds pretty personal also that we were dead in sins and he quickened us which means made us born again. Nobody chooses to be naturally born and nobody chooses to be spiritually born it's an act of God.
@@dwashington1333 yes paul was writing to those already saved in the entire book of Ephesians. But how does one become saved? We find that in pauls book of Romans earlier. Romans 10: 9-10 specifically.
One thing a true calvinist knows, is that they don't know if they are saved. Unless they were borned saved?
God cant force someone to pray to Him and confess Jesus is their personal lord and saviour. One must Choose to do so.
@@joe_zeay read John 6:44. "No man can come unto me unless my Father who sent me draws him" Jesus said. We are spiritually dead until God quickens us and draws us to Jesus, a dead man can't do anything and that is what we are dead in sins and spiritually dead until we are born again. Nobody chooses to be naturally born and nobody chooses to be spiritually born.
@@dwashington1333 Jesus was speaking to Israel. He hadn't yet been crucified, buried, & raised when He was speaking. His gospel was that of the Kingdom (for Israel). Paul's gospel to us in this age is a separate gospel. The gospel of grace... where man has to accept/reject the blood now shed on the cross to be saved.
Gotta rightly divide, as the whole Bible isn't about you.
Cant cherry pick verses out of context. Gotta read each entire chapter/book to understand.
God loves and has pursued EVERY MAN. now its our turn to pursue Him.
Well done, Allie.
I like the phrase, “regeneration before faith”. When one considers that we were chosen before the foundation of the world then it all comes from outside of ourselves. However, the act of expressing saving faith makes it seems like something that comes from within. People think,”this is my voice that is praying, so this must be my faith”. Only later do some people come to realize that that faith was given to them by their heavenly Father.
Bill Hansen
Regeneration happens after faith....
Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
All that believed would receive the Spirit after Jesus’ resurrection and ascension....
Jhn 14: 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Jhn 15: 26 ¶ But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Jhn 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
The Holy Spirit is first given here....
Jhn 20: 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
So they didn’t receive the Holy Spirit until after the resurrection as Jesus stated in John 7. That’s well after the disciples believed, and many others as well......
Jhn 2: 23 ¶ Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.
Luk 7: 50 ¶ And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
Even after the resurrection, faith still preceded regeneration.....
Eph 1: 13 ¶ In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Just to clarify what regeneration is. It is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit....
Rom 8: 9 ¶ But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Spiritual life happens after belief.....
Jhn 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
The disciples hadn’t received this life before the resurrection of Christ.....
Jhn 14:19 ¶ Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Peter hadn’t yet been converted.....
Luk 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
(Matt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.)
God bless
Evan U Thanks for taking the time to write all those verses. I do believe what the Bible says, and I also believe that Allies statement that regeneration precedes faith is Biblical. Please study Eph 2:1-10.
Bill Hansen
Every passage has a meaning and a context. What do you do with the passages I cited?
If they don’t mean that regeneration happens after faith then what are they saying? Do you believe that the bible has contradictions and we can pick whichever side that fits our doctrine the best? I hope that’s not what you think.
Eph 2:1-10 doesn’t mention when regeneration takes place.
Faith isn’t the gift either. “Faith” is a feminine noun. “That” is a neuter pronoun. It can’t be referring to faith. The fact that salvation is obtained by grace through faith means that it’s a gift.....
Rom 3: 27 ¶ Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
That’s saying pretty much the same thing.
Rom 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God bless.
@@evanu6579 Bunch of verses yanked out of context and then machine-gunned into a post before being loosely tied together and the reply button being sent.
Randy Couture
You keep making that claim but you haven’t once shown how a single passage has been taken out of context.
Show me the context of one of the passages I cited that would change the way I used it.
Every time you make a claim and I disagree, I don’t just hurl accusations, I cite the passage and the context. I go through it with you. You’ve never once done the same. You seem to be very good at making false accusations but not so good with the evidence.
Name one time when you’ve actually answered a question I asked you. Name a time when I didn’t answer one of yours.
People that are saying she is duped or pulling scripture out of context need to open their bibles and read those passages in full. Find a good expositional church and ask God for grace to understand scripture. We are not God, we cannot save ourselves. The Bible is not about us, it is about God.
Yes the Calvinist god is merciful by punishing by torture those he forced to commit the very sins he came up with! Good job Baucham Sproul, Calvin, MacArthur, Washer, Piper. No wonder millions flock to the merciful Calvin god!
The real God of Creation said this of His love for all man and the Created Universe.
Psalms 145:9 The Lord is good to ALL; he has compassion on ALL he has made.
Little different from the evil cruel god of calvinism isn't it?
The real Jesus said in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Calvinist god followers say that their god blinds the eyes of the Non-elect so they cannot see or understand the gospel. Yet it is they who have been blinded by Satan. Satan has blinded the eyes of those who are perishing. Satan leads the whole World astray.
Nothing makes people hate God faster than Calvinism.
Nothing turns people into Atheists faster than Calvinism!
Nothing kills hope and love faster than Calvinism!
Yet they are wise in their own eyes and lost in their souls and hearts.They gather around themselves those who speak the same lie!
Wake up and turn to God who loves you . "Repent and be Baptized before your life is spent and there is no more hope for you!
This can be the day of your salvation.
In Love!
What a stupid comment lol
beware of false apostle paul
Great comment! TRUTH!
@@KGuardado3 Thank you Kristen. I would encourage you to try to reach the Lost Calvinists as well.
Romans 10:14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”
TRUTH IN LOVE
@@truth7416 We just started going to a church 6 mo ago, and while taking their membership class, we have found out it's a Calvinist church. We're torn. We love these people
Not a Calvinist but enjoying the topic and your presentation.
What a twisted view of Christianity
I know:(
Wanna debate it? If not I’d suggest you stop attacking the gospel and the cross of Christ. If so, I’m always down
@@edwinnunez7538 There would be no point . We both begin with significant different assumptions.
@@edwinnunez7538 And I am not attacking the gospel, but I am saying your version of the gospel is heinous and morally bankrupt.
God is Sovereign. Are you an open Theist then ?
I don't understand why Allie is doing this. All she's going to accomplish is the alienation of people who like her politics but despise Calvinism as I do. Stick to rebutting AOC.
I'll only disagree to a point. I agree in that I don't believe Calvinism either. Most of my friends in college were Calvinists and I learned a lot about it during that time, and all I have found is that the passages that they use do not work when you are actually reading these passages the way they're written. That being said I want her to talk about what she believes and to have discussions with people who disagree with her. I don't want it to be an every-week thing, but I certainly don't want to tell her to stop else I quit watching
If you cannot listen to people you do not agree with, you will never grow in knowledge.
@@rmlrobl I've already listened to tons of stuff on Calvinism. I could teach what she's teaching if I believed in it. What I want from Allie is her take on the political scene. Her satire is the bomb. But this stuff ???
@@rmlrobl and like I said, I agree with the main premise of what he's saying. A lot of Calvinists sound the same. I spent about a year-and-a-half in one calvinist Church and another half a year in another. Mostly I hear a lot of the same stuff over and over. It is very alienating for people who don't agree.
@@JewandGreek Ok, then just listen to her videos on politics. No one is stopping you? Her channel doesn't revolve around you and your wishes.
I'm Calvinist, but I dont care for Piper.
Romans 5:18
"Therefore, as through one man's offense, judgment came to ALL(pas) men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to ALL (pas) men, resulting in justification and life."
A few questions:
If the Greek word "pas" when used in scripture translated to "all" means "all kinds" or "all without distinction" rather than simply meaning WHAT IT SAYS "all." Then did judgment and condemnation only come to "all kinds" of men or did condemnation and free gift come to ALL men like the bible actually says?
Do we get to decide what the words of scripture mean based on our man made theology system? Or as professors of Jesus Christ and believing 2 Timothy 3:16 that all scripture is by the inspiration of God we should submit to what the WORDS on the page SAY.
You don't have to believe in free will to understand when you read scripture Calvanism TULIP system flies in the face of the words of scripture. Calvanism is 1 verse theology and context completely wipes the floor with the TULIP. I used 1 verse as an example but when you go through the texts they cite in context you do not get calvanism, you get bible.
Calvanists say Sola scriptura all day but when you go to debate them they run away from the text and make gaslighting, moralistic and philosophical arguments while throwing out of context verses at you.
Just read your Bible, you are brothers and sisters in Christ but Satan loves the confused gospel that you preach.
My church teaches the five points of Calvinism (Reformed Presbyterian) and I largely agree with them, but I’ve learned over the years not to debate them because people get so angry and it ends up just causing a huge argument. So I just keep mum. But it’s amazing how often I hear preaching from people who are supposedly not Calvinists but who say things like God chooses us before we choose Him; that no one comes to God unless the Father draws him, and similar statements. But if you were to debate those individuals one-on-one they would likely get angry and deny that they are Calvinists. 🤔
look up how Calvin murdered Dr Servertus.
Dude, if they say that, then they are Calvanist. No non-Calvinist would say that.
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom.
A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch.
” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.”
(D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.”
(E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).”
(F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.”
(J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.”
(H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.”
5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” (
F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.”
(B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.”
A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm
B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm
C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html
D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm
E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml
F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html
G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm
H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm
I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html
J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm
(different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm
John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net
TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost calvinists!
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
KH thank you for explaining this. It sounds like a conundrum for sure. Check out Leighton Flowers "Soteriology 101." He has so many good explanations and he is so calm and loving when he debates Calvinistic theology. You will enjoy it immensely, I think. God bless. :)
Amen, Allie! Amen! Awesome job!
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
Christ exalting, pretty, conservative, and a calvinist.
Allie, if you could tell us men where the rest of your kind are we would really appreciate it! 😁
The issue of total depravity was decided at the Councils of Orange. Augustine himself was at the first one.
Man in his natural state has lost his state of grace with God since The Fall. Without grace we are only tempted to sin. This is your original sin. It’s a disordered relationship with God. God grants you grace on his own accord so you are also tempted towards virtue. Every act of holy charity, faith and hope is preceded by an extension of grace by God. God augments your free will so you can choose virtue over sin. It’s not a decision you can make by yourself. God needs to grant you this ability first.
ya either repent and keep the 10 or you do not. very simple. Calvin never repented and neither do his followers.
By reading a bunch of your posts, you are obviously one of the elect, and god must be speaking through you to get me to know the truth as well.
Well I finally see it ! Thanks so much!
I must have been the slowest kid in Sunday school growing up because I thought Jesus loved me and all of the other kid there. I must have been such a dope!
You have made me see that Jesus actually hated most of us and wanted most of us to go to Hell.
Your right who am I to question God's love like that.
I guess I should preach this like you do, but how do I know I am an elect person like you?
I may be simply deceived by the devil to think I am one of the elect. That would make me a fake which has to be bad.
It is so confusing don't you think?
If I ever figure out that I am one of the elect like you, the first thing I do will be teach the kids in Sunday school the real "Jesus Loves me song" for the elect, as it should be.
"Jesus loves me, this I know.
As for you, I don't think so.
Only some to Him belong. We are right and you are wrong.
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
But I hope this isn't effervescent grace that I'm walking in and instead I'm actually deceived and one of the reprobates that He created to burn as a candle for His glory in Hell forever."
TRUTH IN LOVE
Joshua 24:15 man must Choose to accept who to serve. James 4:8 man can seek out God. John 6:40 believe jesus died for your sins and you will be saved
There is more books and chapters in the bible than romans 9
But its all about saul right! Lol.
Lol was that really an attempt to quote verses you thought would contradict anything we believe
@@edwinnunez7538 calvinists told me they dont believe in freewill. Perhaps youre not calvinist. That whole Irresistible Grace crap... and Total Depravity lie
@@joe_zeay incorrect. What we don’t believe in is an autonomous free will that works outside of God’s decree. Literally look at the reformed tradition lol. We’ve always believed in free will, just not the Arminian perversion of it. Are you down to discuss it somewhere like zoom or discord ?
@@edwinnunez7538 blah blah blah. Either way its not biblical. Calvinism isnt christianity. Read joshua 24:15 and pray for the holy spirit to help you
My wife’s brother-in-law is an elder in the PCA. He anathematized both me and my family for not believing that God “meticulously predestinates everything that has or will ever happen for His own good pleasure and glory.” It turns out that he was cheating on his wife with multiple women the whole time he was condemning me. It must be then that God found please in his wife saying, “Sayonara you creep.”
Allie, I’d suggest Roger Olson for a fair treatment of Arminianism. I find most Calvinist are not really familiar with classical Arminianism.
Maybe you get him on one of your Monday shows for an interview.
Preach it, sister!!!
Allie, unfortunately the views you present on TULIP and Calvinism isn’t accurate exegesis of the scriptures. Calvinism brings up a false dichotomy of election and salvation: either God is supremely in control or we are. However, the Truth is God is supremely sovereign (in that He rules as He sees fit) and rules to give us libertarian free will. If God is the puppet master over the whole world, why then does He need patience (as seen in the Bible), why did Christ weep for those of Israel who chose not to believe, and why did God give Israel a choice to be his kingdom on earth (look at Exodus 19, there is an of then statement where God gives Moses his contract to ask the Jews if they WANT to be his nation)? TULIP is a flawed man-made philosophy of scripture, but it gets a lot wrong (Arminianism isn’t 100% correct either by the way).
Please find me the words "libertarian free will" in the Bible.
@@choicemeatrandy6572 Why would God have free-will offerings in the old testament, if no one had free will to do or not do the offerings?
@@Sanok-29 Doesnt look like you found those words...
@@choicemeatrandy6572 You danced around my question. Why would God have free-will offerings in the old testament, if no one had free will to do or not do the offerings?
@@Sanok-29 Where did I say no one had "free will"? I asked specifically for greyknight to show me where "libertarian free will" appears in the Bible, if you want to talk about dancing around the question that's exactly what you're doing.
Man Allie Beth looks soo good without make up
I can't wait to hear the first Calvinist video where the presenter says " I BELIEVE IN CALVINISM, but I'M sure GOD didn't pick me! "
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
0:24 "These (TULIP) are really focused on the central act God saving sinners." This statement is wrong. TULIP is focused not on God saving sinners; that would the gospel. NO, TULIP is focused on how God saves only some people, by choosing them before time, and outside of Christ.
The 5 points of heresy
Love your statement!
Yes the Calvinist god is merciful by punishing by torture those he forced to commit the very sins he came up with! Good job Baucham Sproul, Calvin, MacArthur, Washer, Piper. No wonder millions flock to the merciful Calvin god!
The real God of Creation said this of His love for all man and the Created Universe.
Psalms 145:9 The Lord is good to ALL; he has compassion on ALL he has made.
Little different from the evil cruel god of calvinism isn't it?
The real Jesus said in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Calvinist god followers say that their god blinds the eyes of the Non-elect so they cannot see or understand the gospel. Yet it is they who have been blinded by Satan. Satan has blinded the eyes of those who are perishing. Satan leads the whole World astray.
Nothing makes people hate God faster than Calvinism.
Nothing turns people into Atheists faster than Calvinism!
Nothing kills hope and love faster than Calvinism!
Yet they are wise in their own eyes and lost in their souls and hearts.They gather around themselves those who speak the same lie!
Wake up and turn to God who loves you . "Repent and be Baptized before your life is spent and there is no more hope for you!
This can be the day of your salvation.
In Love!
@@truth7416 I agree 100%.
I'm very fortunate and blessed that the Lord had mercy on me and delivered me from calvinism. It's horrible, as far as I'm concerned. But I pray that God will continue to deliver more and more souls out of every lie of the enemy.
P.s. do you believe someone can be a calvinist and still be a Christian? I'm thinking it's possible, but like you said, calvinism is very detrimental to faith.
@@trustchristnotmyselfextran6298 It is so refreshing to hear your escape from the Dark gospel of Calvinism. God and the Angels rejoice over this as scripture says. Its also nice not to be attacked for bringing the truth!
Is it possible to be saved while being inside a Catholic or Reformed church system? I would say yes very hesitantly.
Most baby Christians have very little understanding of the details of the system they are in. If they don't grow they they may be unaware.
A baby Mormon is not told they are gods in the making.
A baby Catholic is not told that Mary is a co-saviour.
A baby Jehovah Witness is not told that Jesus is just an Angel. etc.
A baby Calvinist is not told that God is the source of all evil and doesn't love or want to save everyone until they have been slowly and forcefully taught this lie.
They then either are so repulsed by it, that the Holy Spirit can now work to get them out of there, or they embrace the lie to the point of no return.
YOU are so blessed that you followed the Holy Spirits leading. It was always your choice. I am so encouraged to think that the efforts of others helped you. I only hope that my efforts may also help some one.
God is pleased in the efforts of preaching more than the results of preaching. The results are between the hearer of the Word and God. We are just co-workers.
God Bless you dear one! and I don' say this as just a nice phrase at the end of a letter.
@@truth7416 down to debate it?
@@trustchristnotmyselfextran6298 down to debate it? Or do you just leave comments like this and aren’t really prepared to back them up?
The soteriology channel tried to critique your explanation of the dispensations of grace. It seems those guys really don't understand The Human Condition. Also, I think they believe that God would only elect some if he were unjust...death to all is just. Mercy to some, based on nothing you did, is Scripture. Exodus 33:18
@Pawwel Mussial yea. That's right
The human condition is we are made in gods image, have the law written on our hearts, have a conscience that bears witness to right and wrong, and we believe or suppress the truth that is evident all around us since the beginning of time. We are fallen and need salvation that’s only available through Jesus and he made a way for anyone who believes in him to be saved. The GOOD news, the hope for all mankind! What a loving God.
I like that dr. Leighton Flowers has already done the first part for debunking your video...
Flowers lol lol lol choice meats lol lol lol
@Pk Amponn But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:26-28 KJV
AMEN
@Pk Amponn According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Ephesians 1:4 KJV
AMEN
Could hardly call that video a "debunking"
@Pk Amponn Turn a page back to 2 Peter 2 and read about how Peter talks about how false teachers and prophets are destined for destruction and that their punishment was destined from long ago.
Best video to show God is not worthy of any worship
Yes, the calvinist god, NOT the actual God of the bible
@@leonardu6094 they are one and the same
@@alexmartinez9097 No, they're not. Calvinism is false and anti-biblical.
@@leonardu6094 it's biblical, that's why fundamentalist support that theology
@@alexmartinez9097 "it's true because some Christians support it"
What kind of lousy reasoning is this?
Most non-Calvinists who have become Calvinists were 'convinced' Calvinism is true by someone more clever at using their 'proof texts' than the non-Calvinist was at disputing them. Few Christians have ever heard the sermon on "what's wrong with Calvinism". This is usually because their preacher didn't know how to explain it, was afraid of touching a 'third rail', or didn't think it was even necessary.... (BIG MISTAKE).
Consequently, most non-Calvinist Christians are vulnerable and woefully unprepared to articulately provide a defense to the accusation against God that he does NOT love all his creation and/or that he has NOT "Graciously" made provision for ALL of mankind to be reconciled to himself by faith in Christ. Instead, they are easily out-argued by a Calvinist who can argue their 'plucked-proof-texts' by virtue of having already been convinced by some other Calvinist that God has actually created and condemned the vast majority of mankind, (made in his own image), to burn in Hell for doing precisely what he has decreed they would do, while he withholds the ability to do otherwise... for his own glory.
Calvinists have been defending the indefensible for hundreds of years. They have it down to a 'cha-cha dance'. They seem to learn it the same way, rinse & repeat. Most of their arguments employ misdirection, redefined words, and terms and the invention of dual, non-falsifiable meanings.
Is it more correct to say that egg yolks "are" white or is it OK to say egg yolks "is" white?
Calvinist arguments can go something like this, it's sort of like a fighter setting up a right hook with a left jab and a head fake.
Example;
Calvinist: "You believe God is sovereign, right?"(their definition of sovereignty excluded)...
Victim: "Right!"
Calvinist: "You believe man is totally depraved, right?"(their definition of depravity excluded)...
Victim: Right!
Calvinist: "You know man can't save himself, right?"(begging the question of how salvation occurs)...
Victim: Right!
Calvinist: "Why did you get saved and your friend didn't?"...
Victim: "I believed the Gospel and accepted the gift of salvation, and he didn't."
Calvinist: "Oh, so you saved yourself, aren't you special. So, you must think you're better than him. ....I thought we already covered that".. etc. etc.
It goes on ad nauseam. The unsuspecting, unprepared victim really has no chance.
And the next thing you know John "Bob" Calvin's your uncle.......
But yokes are still yellow, not white.😊
Calvinism really ought to have been condemned as heresy
@@leonardu6094 It has been by most non-Calvinists.....and those who have come out from under the thumb of it's popular leaders. Calvinists are not a monolithic bunch, but they are consistent in one thing. They all agree that anyone who rejects or leaves the Calvinist doctrine ... doesn't now, or never never did, understand it. 🤣And this even applies to former Calvinist pastors of 25yrs or more who eventually saw TULIP for the fallacy it is.
As for anyone who affirms and believes in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ and his virgin birth, and sinless sacrifice for our sins unto their own salvation, I have no reason to doubt their salvation, regardless of how confused they might be as to how it happened. Apart from the Presbyterians, the majority of Calvinists have been saved outside of Calvinistic influence and only came to accept and believe 'TULIP' by being convinced of it by someone more skilled at arguing for their cherry picked proof texts than the non-Calvinist was at placing them in their proper non-Calvinist context. It is possible to convince an unprepared non-Calvinist they really have been a Calvinist all along and just didn’t ‘know it' inside of 30 minutes, it happens every day.
There are hard-core types on both sides of the isle who each contend the other is not saved. They should not. I think both are ignoring what scripture says about how salvation occurs. God saves those who believe. The argument is not “if” they believe in Christ, it is “how” and “why” they believe.
Regarding the doctrines of Calvinism; those who teach it are as deceived as those who believe them, in my opinion. They are all fallen to the snare laid by the father of lies. I don't think Augustine and Calvin invented the lies which became TULIP..... The fell for them. It's the same lie Satan told Eve in the Garden; You can't trust God to have your best interests in mind... personally.
It's a trick of Satan/Calvinism to plant a doubt in the mind of any believer that God might not love them… personally. He can't keep a believer out of heaven, but he can spoil their relationship with the father while here on earth. Perfect love casts out fear. BUT when you fear the 'love' might not be real…you cannot escape the fear. It's a lousy basis for any type of loving relationship.
On the other hand, teaching little kids that Jesus might not love them.... personally, or even their little friend next door, is problematic to say the least. I seem to recall something about a millstone and deep water😎
@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT I agree with everything you just said. How do you deal with the common rebuttal by some calvinists that God actually loves everybody, but he just loves people differently.
@@leonardu6094 The idea of God providing sunlight, and oxygen as a type of 'love' but only for a little while on earth before sending souls, created in His own image no less, for the express purpose of eternal damnation for for His own pleasure, to increase his own glory, and to demonstrate his power and judgment is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned. the 13th chapter of 1Corinthians is pretty clear about what the 'God' kind of love is.
Calvinism's description of God's nature is categorically opposed to the Heavenly Father whom Christ described and portrayed while here on earth. Scripture specifically says God IS love, as a 'noun'. Read 1Cor 13 and replace the word Love with God, (which is no stretch). There is no way you get a portrait of the God which Calvinism paints. It is somewhat ironic as much as tragic that many atheists describe their impression of God in Calvinistic terms. They rightly reject the portrait of God which Calvin paints . But unfortunately throw God out with the painting.
@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT That is so true! I had noticed that too. Many times when an unbeliever is railing against God to me. they're usually really railing against calvinist impressions of God and calvinist doctrines like total depravity, original sin and determinism.
Good on her for speaking her convictions! I believe she is speaking the truth. Most people who reject The 5 Points of Calvinism do so out of ignorance or strongly held traditions that stop them from allowing God's Word to speak on the matter.
Your work in this video was spectacular! Thanks so much for standing up for the true Gospel! I love the fact that you unashamedly teach the Bible along with your political commentary. You are a gift to the Church Allie!
Please read your Bible carefully. What this lady is teaching the scriptures say is completely wrong and out of context!
@@jordanandjessicamartin2916 yep
What are you saying the gospel is? I say the gospel is the good news that’s a savior has come to save the world. Is that hope only for some? That grace only for some? That good news only for the “elect” and bad news for everyone else? Is that the message you see in The Bible?
There is no Christian content in Alley's talk! She is a 5-Point Reformed Calvinist not a Christian. Calvinism is a Cult , don't be deceived! It is another Gospel! A Doctrine of Demons!
Yes it is disappointing when these people don't realize that Satan is using them to be an enemy of the Cross!
You will find her Calvinist testimony here Allie Beth Stuckey Explains Calvinism To Ben Shapiro Soteriology 101
Calvinists are knowingly or not knowingly guilty of :
Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, guides!
My words are not attacks but a warning to them and their victims. They describe Satan's character and apply that to God! They are kicking at the Holiness of God in the name of a man! The monster JOHN CALVIN.
Satan's methods are always the same, because they work on humans. Puff them up and put this into their minds.....
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22
Answer : YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID!
Truth in Love
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
The problem is YOU believe in Calvi-god who is sovereign in your life. Calvi-god and Calvi-jesus are really Satan!
Hear from the God of the Bible and come out of your Cult!!
“For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord, repent and live!” - Ezekiel 18:31
“He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.” - 1 John 2:2
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son, so that whosoever believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.” John 3:16
“God wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people.” 1 Timothy 2:4-6
The former says that God loves the world and that this love prompted Him to send His one and only son to die for their sins so that those out of the world who believe in Him will be saved.
“But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign LORD who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves.” 1 Peter 2:1
“That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.” 1 Timothy 4:10
Truth in Love
What about the great commission? So we need not pray for family and friends to be saved?
Predestination makes everthing pointess. Especially spreading the gospel.
@@anomilumiimulimona2924 yep, just like atheism
Our prayers have no power. Everything is already determined so your prayer for someone’s salvation has to be: “God, I hope they’re “elect.”
@@AlanaL3 so you've never prayed
@@anomilumiimulimona2924 of course I have:) now I just know God hears me and can actually interact and respond to my prayer. I’m not just part of a big theatrical
John 3:16
Both Joshua and Moses commanded the children of Israel to "...choose ye this day who ye will serve..."
Paul also said that God made all nations from one blood, and he has determined the times and bounds of their habitation, so that by seeking him they should find him, even though he is not too far from them.
Jesus in Mathew 6:33 said, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness.."
Salvation is predetermined for anyone. The lamb has been slayed from the foundation of the world, and it is up to us to believe and claim this sacrifice. Jesus' sacrifice saved us from the penalty of sin, the power of sin and will save us from the presence of sin when he returns. God wants us all to be saved but he will not manipulate our choices or confine us to his presence if we do not want to reside their. God knows the outcome but he does not rig the game. Adam and Eve had a choice, so did Cain & Abel, the antediluvians and so do all of us. I listen you as often as I can and you do terrific work. God bless you and your family.
What an incredible video! 🤯 Praise the Lord! Thanks Allie! ☺️
Jesus Christ is my God, not Calvin. Jesus Christ established His Church on the Apostles, and promised it would teach His truth, in His name, in every generation, until the end. Christ does not break His promises. No Protestant revolution required.
I love this Allie. Keep the faith!!❤
She will if she is one of the "elect." That's your P! TULIP, nice flower BAD theology
Keep up the good work Allie.
Check out the following books for further analysis and information.
What is Reformed Theology? By RC Sproul
40 Questions About Calvinism by Shawn Wright
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The Potters Freedom by James R White
@Pk Amponn Dude do you even Bible and Church History? Anyone with a profile pic of the infamous heretic Pelagius loses all crediblity with anyone who understands historic orthodoxy.
@Pk Amponn Man, thanks for clearing that up for me. Now that I know I can regenerate myself I don't need Christ. Hmmm I guess He died in vain.
@Big Black Bear lol. I know
Casey Sandberg Truly a better place to start might be Augustine’s Conversion from Traditional Free Choice to ‘non-Free Will’: A Comprehensive Methodology or the pared down The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism. Though Augustine did make some positive contributions as a Father of the Catholic Church, he did revert back to his Gnostic Manichaeism Tradition of which John Calvin based his Theology on. Unfortunately Calvinism today is premised on that Gnostic as well making it a cult as well.
No just read the Bible...when you start teaching your kids the Bible you’ll leave Calvinism ...I did after 17 years. Eyes opened.
Wonderful
Thanks for this well researched episode!
One Little Contention ... 🤨
As you have correctly relayed, the Reformed view of Predestination came before John Calvin ever wrote his Institutes.
As you have also correctly pointed out, the responses which produce the acronym TULIP was a reaction to the Arminians and took place long after Calvin had died.
Therefore what we call "Calvinism" far predates him! I much prefer the phrase,
"Doctrines of Sovereign Grace" (which you also mentioned) 😃
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Perhaps the term "Calvinism" should refer to what we currently call the "Reformed View" since it so precisely defines those doctrines.
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P.S. Do you have an answer for the "all " question?
(If not perhaps I can share my answer with you.)
I have an answer for the “all” “all mankind” “all men” “whoever” etc... question. God means exactly what He says.
Do not allow philosophy to be a part of your faith. Calvinism is 100% man made philosophy
@@AlanaL3 are you down to discuss that? I would love to see you defend what you’re saying
All means out of all nations he chose his elect not all people of all nations but some people of all nations. It is so simple, if Jesus died for all mankind then everybody would be saved. We know people are lost and destined for hell, so those people are not of his sheep, not his elect and not his chosen. John 10:11, 26-29.
@@dwashington1333 Well if Jesus dying is the only thing that it takes for us to be saved and yes of Jesus died for all mankind then all will be saved. But, only those who believe have eternal life. Jesus made a way for us to be reconciled to God. Everyone is welcome and urged to be reconciled to God.
@@dwashington1333 I think when God says all he means all. He’s not giving us some weird puzzle to solve. He’s clear and concise and he’s given us discernment and wisdom to be able to understand and believe or reject the truth. We are made in his image.
2:31 Allie says, "Let us set up TULIP from a quote from...Martin Luther, himself, in his work 'Bondage of the Will." "I condemn and reject as nothing but error all doctrines which exalt our quote "free will" as being directly opposed to this mediation and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ for sins. Apart from Christ, sin and death are our masters and the devil is our god and prince. There can be no strength of power, no wit or wisdom, by which we can fit or fashion ourselves for righteousness and life."
3:09 After quoting Martin Luther, she says, "And that is a very good summation of what reformed protestants and Calvinists believe.
Allie is confusing and conflating reformed Protestantism with Protestantism. Using today's vernacular, "Reformed" is synonymous with "Calvinism". But not all denominations that came out of the Reformation are "reformed" or "Calvinistic". There are many denominations that are reformed and non-Calvinistic.
Thus, all non-Calvinistic mainline Protestant Christian denominations would mostly agree with Martin Luther's quote. The Bible teaches in Romans 6 that those who are baptized into Christ are transformed from a slave of sin to a slave of righteousness. Those who walk in the spirit crucify the deeds of their flesh and walk in holiness and righteousness toward God (this is the sanctification process that takes a lifetime). No Christian Protestant denomination (Calvinistic or not) would assert that we could "by strength of power or by wit or wisdom, fit or fashion ourselves for righteousness and life." Of course this righteousness and life come from our death, burial and resurrection, IN CHRIST, as we take part in HIS death, burial and resurrection, through faith and baptism into Him.
What's the point? Allie Beth Stuckey is NOT making any distinctive Calvinistic teaching. What she asserts is a "good summation" of "reformed" or "Calvinistic" belief is actually something ALL (not just Calvinistic) denominations believe. Calvinists have their own special doctrine (TULIP) that makes Calvinism distinct, or different.
I feel that by starting this teaching with something that most or all Christian denominations believe, and by asserting this "good summation" is what Calvinists believe, rather than all mainline Christian denominations (excluding word of faith, etc) she is wrongly excluding other denominations that hold to the same belief, and is NOT making any distinction between Calvinism and non-Calvinism.
In other words, she just used the bait and switch. Calvinism (whatever that is because Marin Luther's quote does not address Calvinism) believes something that even non-Calvinists believe. Therefore, Calvinism is true.
No! It doesn't work that way.
Please step out of the echo chamber and talk to a non-Calvinist about some honest criticism of this man-made system.
Right....
It's very ironic how they say the Scripture is the ultimate authority yet based an entire religion on what a man said. . just sayin'
Paul already answered that criticism in Romans.
On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it?
- Romans 9:20
@@TheShandalala I agree, the heresy of Jacobus trying to give man a will where none is to be had.
@Pk Amponn So will all people end up being saved? Dont start an argument and then stop halfway through.
My question is what is Allie reading from? Did she post that somewhere?
Apologies first for all of the rude a-holes. I also disagree with your theology, but there's no call for this kind of rudeness. My name critique for people I have from the Calvin's perspective is that most Calvinists sound the same when they talk. There really isn't much diversity when defending Calvinism. I noticed this first in college because most of my friends were Calvinists. I noticed later when I started to look into some calvinist theologians. Even when there are differences, they all take the same basic approach to the same basic passages. My second critique is that most Calvinists really don't understand the other side. I attended a calvinist church for about a year-and-a-half and I can firmly say that Pastor had no idea what the opposition believes. I'm happy to talk with anyone, but I'm ready to hear something different then what I've heard before
Lots of good debates out there, but I would suggest this one for staying on topic and avoiding violations of debate rules. ruclips.net/video/yEU2IuC1d24/видео.html
@@pr073u569 debates are fine and all oh, I just don't see support for Calvinism in Scripture. Romans 9 is about the election of Israel as a people, not individuals. Ephesians 1 about the church as a whole, not individuals. Calvinism has a bad habit of taking things meant for a group and personalizing it too far. That's why I'm not a calvinist. All the passage I've seen that are said to be supported for Calvinism when I study them I find to be misused
@@OneOuttaOne Hey brother. While I vehemently oppose calvinism for all 26 years of my salvation, I disagree with your basic analysis of Eph 1 and Rom 9. If you care to hear another non-calvinistic viewpoint on both, I'd be happy to dialogue.
@@contemplate-Matt.G i would be interested, particularly with romans 9. What's your perspective?
How can you say we dont understand the other side? Most of us grew up in Arminian churches
Is it possible to love God, to repent and trust in Jesus, and still be predestined by God for damnation? If so, what is the assurance of our salvation under Calvinist doctrine? Also, how does Evangelism fit in?
Calvinism is anti biblical.
@@leonardu6094 can you be a little more explicit? What of Calvinism is anti-Biblical? For example, the concept of predestination is throughout the Old and New Testaments. So can you expound on your comment?
@@bretwalker2295 By anti-biblical i meant the TULIP system. There's no Christian who denies predestination as a biblical concept, we just deny the Calvinist understanding of predestination.
@@leonardu6094 ok but what specifically is antibiblical? Can you cite chapter and verse where it is in error? Show me the verse please.
@@bretwalker2295 I'm not going to go through a whole systematic refutation of TULIP in a youtube comment section lol. I'll do this one though; I'll tackle the first Letter T (total depravity) in TULIP . Total depravity claims, as a consequence of the fall, every person born into the world is enslaved to the service of sin as a result of their fallen nature and, apart from the efficacious (irresistible) or prevenient, is completely unable to choose by themselves to follow God, refrain from evil, or accept the gift of salvation as it is offered. Now this is bad alone as it is, but where the real problem comes for the calvinit is that they also affirm limited atonement and irresistible grace and believe that God has only chosen to save some humans (not all humans) and does this by irresistibly changing their will to want to follow him and love him. This doctrine is contradicted by Romans 1:20 where paul explicitly states and implies that EVERYBODY (all people) have been shown sufficient proof of God and have no excuse not to turn to him and follow him.
How do I find a good church every church I went to there's always something besides the Bible I just wondering how you find a good church?
You will never find a perfect church, keep that in mind. But here is a link for a site from MacArthur's seminary that has a church finder. I can't guarantee that these will be good, but it should be a good place to start.
www.tms.edu/find-a-church/
@Pk Amponn instead of doing eisegesis to even suggest the Bible, God's Word, would contradict itself of the message that Christ did die for a particular people, let's consider the context. John, the author, was speaking to Hebrews, with a message reassuring that salvation in Christ was not just for the Hebrews, but for the "world" as they know it: the Gentiles. Never including reprobates, as the Lord left them untouched while He enacted His Grace in instilling Faith in His elect.
Check out the 9 Marks website and see if there’s one near you. I think TGC also has a map
stay away from churches. the messiah never went to a church. just keep the 10 commandments like the messiah said to do
I would find a church that uses the *inductive method* in their bible studies. Independent Baptists usually use the *inductive method*. Any church that adds a philosophy or an "ism" to understanding the bible, you can expect a watered down biblical teaching, comparing scripture to scripture with context is vital. However, even a verse by verse teaching can be infected by a presumptive belief or philosophy. So be vigilant! Lastly, avoid any church that yields their sense making faculties over to a man.
1 Timothy 2:4 verse has been twisted for so many years. all men/All people yes i totally agree , but the “all” does not mean all and every person head for head , but all kinds of men , just like verse 2 explains ..
You’re totally wrong. All means all. God wills all people to be saved. You’re allowing your TULIP heresy to cloud your brain. God is sovereign but He is not a tyrant. God calls everyone everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30), but does not compel repentance, instead freely offers to each and all sufficient grace to repent. Christ desired to gather the rebellious children of Jerusalem to himself, but it was man’s unwillingness which thwarted His desire (Matthew 23:37).
Yes Man 4 Jesus atonement was a definite one , not a potential one . Jesus only died for those that the father has given him and he will lose non, & Matthew 23:37 doesn’t refute tulip , it actually defends it if you only look what verse 13 says .. Acts 17:30 is a command not and option and not all will repent , we all know this .
Yes Man 4 Jesus God wills all to be saved ? not according to 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9; 2 Peter 2:9 and 3 Peter 3:7 . stop cherry picking scripture.
@Wretched Saved by Grace
Praised be Jesus Christ
The question isn't whether the atonement was a definite or potential one. That's a bit of rhetorical non-sense that people like James White like to toss out to knock some people off-balance. It was a definite atonement. The question is: how are the benefits of Christ's atoning sacrifice applied to particular individuals?
Most persons who believe in limited atonement would agree, I think, that Jesus's sacrifice - since it has infinite value - was sufficient for the sins of all men. Those who hold to limited atonement don't think it is limited because Jesus's sacrifice has limited finite value, but because God limits it's application to the Elect. And in a certain sense this is true, but that leads to the next question: who are the elect? On what basis does God choose some and not others? What mechanism did God put in place?
Romans 8:28-30 explains that "all things work for the good of those who love God," and further explains that, "those He foreknew He also predestined." So predestination is based on God's foreknowledge: He foreknew who would love Him. It was this "foreknown" group whom He predestined to be conformed to the Image of His Son - and we are conformed to Christ's image by renouncing ourselves and taking up the cross, following Christ in the paschal mystery. Those whom God predestined he likewise called (to be conformed to Christ); those called persons who renounce themselves and take up their cross (for there is no other way to be conformed to Christ) are Justified by God (or declared to be in the Right); and those who were justified, are glorified, participating in the resurrected life because they shared with Jesus the way of the cross.
So Scripture, when taken as a whole, affirms the synergistic view of salvation: that God draws man into a co-operative effort in effecting salvation, rather than the monergistic view invented by Calvin.
Repentance is the necessary fist step (and indeed an on-going necessity) each person must take on the road of salvation. As you point out, God calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30), but not all men everywhere in fact do repent. God, because he is just, gives sufficient grace to repent to each and all, but grace is not irresistible - otherwise, it would not be grace - and therefore not all men repent. Many (perhaps most) resist God's call to repent and the fact that not all men everywhere repent demonstrates man's free will, for how else could anyone not comply with a command from God unless God allows men to disobey him? Conversely, that some men in some places do repent demonstrates that men must co-operate with grace in order to be saved, for how else could men, born slaves to sin, repent unless God grants sufficient grace to enable them?
Matthew 23:37 illustrates that grace is resistible for Jesus states that he wanted to gather "the children of Jerusalem" together, but their unwillingness prevented it. Grace is resistible; Jesus did not get what He wanted but allowed the "children of Jerusalem" to thwart His desire.
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 does not address the issue of whether or not God desires all men to be saved. Paul is simply assuring and comforting the Thessalonian Christians, and encouraging them to persevere, because those who are persecuting the Thessalonians, who "do not acknowledge God" or "obey the Gospel of Jesus" will pay the "penalty of eternal ruin." It does not state that they are suffering this fate because God reprobated them beforehand, or predestined them to rebellion or hell.
2 Peter 2:9 likewise doesn't address the issue of whether or not God wills all to be saved. Here, Peter is encouraging his readers not to be deceived by false teachers, or be lead astray by false doctrines or seduced by the "licentious conduct of unprincipled people."
There is no 3 Peter 3:7 in my New Testament.
Peace.
How about 1 timothy 4:10? Read further?
Soli Deo Gloria
Thank you
pure deception, dear, you have been duped.
😂😂😂😂😂
Lukas 24,25 is for you!
Why don't you believe what Jesus Christ taught at this matters?
Scripture is not deception.
Good discussion of Calvinism versus Libertarian Free Will, neither of which are taught in Scripture. 🤨
Love hearing your christian content Allie.
ruclips.net/video/BnOMORGM2Qw/видео.html
I'm not even a Calvinist genius. I just enjoy her content. Believe it or not I can enjoy listening to a viewpoint even though I disagree. 🙄
There is no Christian content in Alley's talk! She is a 5-Point Reformed Calvinist not a Christian. Calvinism is a Cult , don't be deceived!
Yes it is disappointing when these people don't realize that Satan is using them to be an enemy of the Cross!
You will find her Calvinist testimony here Allie Beth Stuckey Explains Calvinism To Ben Shapiro Soteriology 101
Calvinists are knowingly or not knowingly guilty of :
Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, guides!
My words are not attacks but a warning to them and their victims. They describe Satan's character and apply that to God! They are kicking at the Holiness of God in the name of a man! The monster JOHN CALVIN.
Satan's methods are always the same, because they work on humans. Puff them up and put this into their minds.....
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For God so loved THE world that he gave his one and only Son, that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants ALL people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for ALL people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" For I take no pleasure in ANYONE'S death, declares the Lord GOD. So repent and live! Ezekiel 18:32
"DID GOD REALLY SAY?" Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22
Answer : YES! YES! YES! YES! HE DID!
Truth in Love
@@exeshesis751 She is just reading a script- a regurgitating of all the old Protestant heresies. All heretics have "quoted" scripture. I'd like to see her debate a Catholic apologist.
3:15 Allie Beth Stuckey attempt to support Martin Luther's statement with Scripture by asserting, "Of course we know that these words that Martin Luther uttered to be true according to Scripture; Ephesians 2 says we are dead apart from Christ and that neither the grace we are given nor the faith that we hold are our own doing, but are a gift from God so that no one may boast....we don't get to take credit for our salvation because even the faith that we hold is given to us by grace."
Here, Allie Beth Stuckey gets into some distinctive doctrines of Calvinism. She gets several things wrong.
Faith is not the gift of God. Salvation is the gift of God, and it has to be appropriated by faith in order for it to be by grace. Faith is being contrasted with works. If it were by works (rather than faith), then a person could boast. But it is not by works, but faith, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE BY grace.
Calvinists wrongly associated faith as a work.
Would you interpret Galatians 6:10 “...let us do good to ALL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY to those who belong to the family of believers” then Tim 4:10 “....we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of ALL PEOPLE, and ESPECIALLY of those who believe.”
Jesus only saves those who have faith. It can’t mean every person or every person would be saved
Here are some examples of Tim 4:10 meaning
It means he is offered to all people, though not all receive him. (3) It means “the Savior of all people, namely, those who believe” (a different translation of Gk. malista, based on extrabiblical examples). (4) It means “the helper of all people,” taking Greek Sōtēr, “Savior,” to refer not to forgiveness of sins but to God’s common grace by which God helps and protects people in need. (5) It means “the Savior of all kinds of people, not Jews only but both Jews and Greeks.” In any case, the emphasis is on God’s care for the unsaved world, and in the flow of the letter Paul is stressing once more (cf. 2:3-5) that God’s will that people would be saved is the basis of the universal mission (cf. Matt. 28:19-20). On God as “Savior,” see note on 2 Tim. 1:8-10.
And also Catholics believe that salvation is by the grace of God, you are initially justified in faith and you live out your life cooperating with God’s grace allows you to merit increases in justification but the entirety of this is done is God’s grace, so Catholic’s believe ultimately that these supernatural good works are done because of God’s grace they are not Pelagians nor Semi Peligians lol
Lots of kicking and screaming comments on here. A good indicator that Allie is representing truth.
Or maybe they're simply, disagreeing.
Or just heart wrenched watching another person fall into the lie of calvanism. I came out after 17 years and hope she will too.
@@AlanaL3 Using a secular metaphor to describe your struggle believing the Bible isn't going to convince anyone of your faith.
@@AlanaL3
After she has helped hundreds, maybe thousands into it.
THE FOLLOWING IS CALVIN'S REIN OF TERROR! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom.
A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch.
” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.”
(D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.”
(E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).”
(F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.”
(J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.”
(H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.”
5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” (
F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.”
(B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.”
A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm
B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm
C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html
D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm
E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml
F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html
G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm
H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm
I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html
J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm
(different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm
John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. john@revivaltheology.net
TRUTH IN LOVE to the lost calvinists!
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
I thought that women can't teach to men within Calvinist tradition, that is the teaching of our glorious pastor Macarthur.
This video defiles holy doctrine.
1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Women are not to teach men inside a church. You chose to watch this but her content is geared towards women.
Ur right Li but. …..But she’s gonna say it only means not in church. She is not in church.
New Calvinist here
same here!!
Keep up, the great work! 👍
Hopefully you realize it's a false system.
@@tsapp2831 I’ve been realized that 😁
@@infinityApologeticsClips beyond the fundamentals is a great youtube channel for that.
George McFly said, "I'm your density" because - it was predestined
Haha! Thank you for a sense of humor. These Calvinist vs Non-Calvinist debates can get so heated. Love Back to the Future. :)
God is sovereign in all things, including salvation. 'not of works, it is a gift of God.'
The only reason to believe in election is because it's found in the Bible, it's not a manmade doctrine.
It's one of those doctrines which offends the unregenerate mind.
Election is a word. Means chosen. If you see it as a doctrine you have to admit it’s a man made one. Never once is the word referring to salvation in the Bible.
Faith is not a work. Paul contrasts faith and works several times. You must believe to be saved and God wants all to believe, but many won’t because they surprise the truth. We are all made in his image, have the law written on our hearts, have a conscience that bears witness. God is love. He died for all mankind and the good news is for all not just some. Hope for all in the amazing g work if Jesus.
Desiring God....great title. Let's Calvinize it: "Desiring God because God elected me to do so before the foundation of the universe. You on the other hand...."
John 3 itself proves Tulip 🌷
How so?
No. How?
Easy , that's because this isn't an optional choice but all the believing. The word world is orderly arrangement for all the believing cause the word believeth is a present tense active verb meaning those in faith ,trusting in christ those who are born again . Cause verses earlier says you must be ^^born again"" did Jesus not say that earlier?
People need to read the Bible and not fall into traditional man centered theology