I love that Jagi never once mentions a meeting time. I just imagine him out there on Tatooine with his squad: "Jagi, we've been out here a week. We're tired and hungry. I don't think he's coming." "Just a bit longer…"
It was a test to see if he still wanted to hold on to his honor. If he ended up not showing up on Tatooine for the duel he would have been branded a coward. It would be seen as if he refused the duel and all the punishments levied against him would have been applied anyway.
"In the dune seas of Tatooine, I will be waiting for you." ... I don't think this guy has good intelligence. Wouldn't that be like someone saying, "In the Sahara Desert, I will be waiting for you..."?
Well Tatooine in KotOR is the best place to score some easy credits, except for selling overstock at the Yavin Station, probably due to the fact that credits are worth less on Tats since its an outer rim world. Perhaps Jagi was just doing mercenary work there and thought if Canderous chickens out least I still get paid for those gaderffii sticks and desert wraid plates.
redleader441 Can't recall what they made, if you gave me some titles, it might jog my memory. I hope this doesn't turn out that I am the HK to Paradox.
Canderous : "I did what I had to do to win the battle and save the lives of my men." Jagi : "Liar! You did it only for glory and left us to die!" this repeats a few more times ^ Revan : "He did what he had to do to win the battle and save the lives of his men." Jagi : "Yeah you right."
Actually Obsidian has always wanted to make KOTOR III. They just weren't given the green light. In fact, they were in the process of making KOTOR III until LucasArts cancelled their project. That was many years ago and later LucasArts decided to do TOR instead. ;)
It's interesting to see Canderous change after this. He often disagrees with Carth, Bastilla, the Jedi, and others about views on war and glory and honor throughout the game. But this time, the one saying that his way was wrong wasn't a Jedi, or a Republic soldier; it was a fellow Mandalorian. He loses that cool, arrogant demeanor while talking with Jagi. This whole thing makes him uncomfortable in a way nothing else does. In other conversations, he glosses over the people he's killed and the losses he's sustained over the years. Here, we see him exasperatedly trying to justify himself, to a man he KNOWS that he wronged, and even showing regret for the men he sent to die. For the first time in the game, Canderous seems to realize that he's in a fight where there's no glory, and his honor means there will be one less Mando in the galaxy, in a time where Mandos are close to extinction. It really puts a dent in his mentality for a while.
@@bobbyjoe1111 I liked the first KOTOR more maybe because the nostalgia and it being the first rpg I ever played. I love KOTOR 2 almost as much KOTOR for a number of reasons it has some of the best lore and characters but it’s not as repayable and Koribban was like 2 seconds long. It’s still the perfect sequel and does something’s better than KOTOR like force powers but I pick KOTOR over it any day
The player...didn't point out anything that Canderous hadn't already said... Canderous: I was trying to end the battle more quickly! Jagi: That's bullshit! You were hunting glory! Jedi: He was trying to end the battle more quickly! Jagi: Oh my God...you're right....
Provoking Perch You have to have him finish talking about his past.I've experienced everything this game had to offer ._. (from side missions to every dialog option) cause I beat it so much (lost count at 16).
+RexVergstrong I looked it up too... This is incredible ! I always loved Ordo's voice, but I played MGS2 and Kotor so far apart that I never thought of a link between those games. This makes this particular scene that much more badass !
I just realized Canderous is the same voice actor as solidus snake from MGS2. I never got far enough to do this quest when I was a kid, and I can't remember ever hearing him get flustered or pissed in the same manner as Snake's brother. Mind blown.
I love the two kotors more than any other rpg I've played. I just think they do an amazing job of giving every character a backstory, and giving the mc every chance to get to know all of them, especially in the second game, where hard work allows one to recruit them to the force, based on careful conversation choices and plot decisions.
Jagi:"Canderous!" Revan: "This is not the mandalorian you're looking for" Jagi walking away: "This is not the mandalorian I'm looking for" Canderous: "............. Jagi?"
Nice vid! I played this part yesterday, only I tried to Mind Trick Jagi into not fighting. Canderous told me not to use my powers on him and we fought anyway.
Not to mention, Even if the battle would've been won, many more Mandalorians lives would've lost. If you think about Canderous made a very militarily intelligent decision, while also thinking about the lives of his comrades who weren't dead, yet unwittingly abandoned Jagi's friends to be killed by the enemy. It was actually a very hard decision, but Jagi would've been dead along with his comrades anyway if Canderous did not act.
I understand why Jagi killed himself (stupid as the logic is) but why did the two goons he brought with him have to die? 'Oh dear, the boss called it off, want to take down the jedi and the legendary warrior on our own?' 'Yeah, let's give it a shot.' 'CHAA-YEEAARGH!!!'
I am glad, you've changed the appearance of Jagi here. At least two more weirdos use the same skin - Igear in Taris Outcast Village and Gurney at Taris Medical Centre. They should have made different textures. =)
@@Kuraakka it's alright... somehow I'd never done it either, despite playing it well over a decade... I guess I favored my Jedi companions and the rest took a backseat.
It sounds like to me like after the 2nd to like maybe the 5th play through, or how many it took before you developed your routine on how you liked to play the game, you never added the habit to talk to Canderous more. With all party members and their side quests, you have to talk to them a lot or you won't get it.
Here is a quick way to see if anybody else has asked this to use as future reference. Hit the link at the bottom of the comments where it says "view [number of comments] all comments" Hit Control F (Ctrl F) on your keyboard. Then put in the word Xbox in it. If you do that you will see how many times others have had queries about the Xbox version.
"So that you could have the 'honor' of being the first to kill the enemy commander!" Hm... I wonder who had the (dis)honor of being the second to kill the enemy commander.
@Xghgjkl: That's an interesting thought, but the problem is the "hired help" always attacks no matter what, even when Jagi kills himself and I don't see why other Mandalorians would attack in that situation considering it is Canderous we're talking about.
I never cared much about Canderous, so I never had this quest. Same goes for Juhani. Too bad I missed all of this back when I played KoTOR the first few times.
Well, let me give you this hint. I don't have the resources to actually pay voice actors to play those parts, then mod it in the game, all in effort to try to fool people on RUclips.
+haruhidude If you tend to miss this kind of thing, you also probably missed: Bastila's mother, Helena. Carth's son, Dustil. Mission's brother, Griff. Juhani's enemy, Xor. Possibly Jolee's old friend, Sunry.
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Jagi: [sees guy in random Mandalorian armor] Canderous?
Canderous: [sees guy in random Mandalorian armor] Jagi?
Yea it's a Mod
DavidtheWavid what little force sensitivity they have is dedicated to knowing people's identity in Mandalorian armor lol
Jagi: ... SAY MY NAME!
What if he knew his voice? Think before comment😏😏😏
Jagi spoke first so ur just being a ass for no reason
I love that Jagi never once mentions a meeting time. I just imagine him out there on Tatooine with his squad:
"Jagi, we've been out here a week. We're tired and hungry. I don't think he's coming."
"Just a bit longer…"
He also doesn't actually mention a place either. Just Tatooine, which is an entire planet's worth of ambiguity.
@@alanraptor1306 an endless expanse of desert
1:58 I imagine his squad saying "Fucking finally, mate. Do you know how long we've been sitting out here?"
There were 4 squads actually. Well... food does run out...
The "Dunes" is where its at
Okay hold on...
Finally Canderous, I have found you on this planet. Now we shall duel on a completely different planet! For... some reason.
It would've made more sense if he found him on Manaan, since fighting is illegal there.
Well the lawless wasteland is the same thing as in Fist of the North Star where there's also a famous character called Jagi :P
@@mr.tennisballs955
Odd thing? I always find him on Manaan. He never appears anywhere else in my game.
Juan Laise I think it depends on planet order
It was a test to see if he still wanted to hold on to his honor. If he ended up not showing up on Tatooine for the duel he would have been branded a coward. It would be seen as if he refused the duel and all the punishments levied against him would have been applied anyway.
" All the mandalorian clans know of this challenge" 2 other dudes show up lmao
so much for all the clans huh
They know, but don't care to watch
just like the Area 51 raid
Why would mando clans wanna see some coward fight
Those were the only two Mandalorians named "Mandalorian Clan" he could find.
"In the dune seas of Tatooine, I will be waiting for you."
... I don't think this guy has good intelligence. Wouldn't that be like someone saying, "In the Sahara Desert, I will be waiting for you..."?
Well Tatooine in KotOR is the best place to score some easy credits, except for selling overstock at the Yavin Station, probably due to the fact that credits are worth less on Tats since its an outer rim world. Perhaps Jagi was just doing mercenary work there and thought if Canderous chickens out least I still get paid for those gaderffii sticks and desert wraid plates.
Lmao
+Brandon Matthew I think it is more of the fact that the desert IS FUCKING HUGE!
Tuffluck 1337 Are you by chance a fan of Paradox Interactive games?
redleader441 Can't recall what they made, if you gave me some titles, it might jog my memory. I hope this doesn't turn out that I am the HK to Paradox.
Canderous : "I did what I had to do to win the battle and save the lives of my men."
Jagi : "Liar! You did it only for glory and left us to die!"
this repeats a few more times ^
Revan : "He did what he had to do to win the battle and save the lives of his men."
Jagi : "Yeah you right."
Your speech 0 companion vs your speech 100 character
That's the D&D logic KotOR was based on.
its an old jedi mind trick
Sometimes people need to hear things from an outside source
Yeah not the best writing
Actually Obsidian has always wanted to make KOTOR III. They just weren't given the green light. In fact, they were in the process of making KOTOR III until LucasArts cancelled their project. That was many years ago and later LucasArts decided to do TOR instead. ;)
A damn shame
How bout mobile KOTOR 2
Fucking none of that is true. BioWare was going to make III, but we’re in a bad place financially so it was scrapped.
I suppose you can see some influence of that in Outer Worlds. If only the dialog wasn't awful.
Why obsidian always encounter such odds for make a sequel first kotor and now fallout new vegas
It's interesting to see Canderous change after this. He often disagrees with Carth, Bastilla, the Jedi, and others about views on war and glory and honor throughout the game. But this time, the one saying that his way was wrong wasn't a Jedi, or a Republic soldier; it was a fellow Mandalorian. He loses that cool, arrogant demeanor while talking with Jagi. This whole thing makes him uncomfortable in a way nothing else does. In other conversations, he glosses over the people he's killed and the losses he's sustained over the years. Here, we see him exasperatedly trying to justify himself, to a man he KNOWS that he wronged, and even showing regret for the men he sent to die. For the first time in the game, Canderous seems to realize that he's in a fight where there's no glory, and his honor means there will be one less Mando in the galaxy, in a time where Mandos are close to extinction. It really puts a dent in his mentality for a while.
When Bioware was the bomb.
Obisidian's Kotor 2 was better in all aspects except for the reveal
@@bobbyjoe1111 I liked the first KOTOR more maybe because the nostalgia and it being the first rpg I ever played. I love KOTOR 2 almost as much KOTOR for a number of reasons it has some of the best lore and characters but it’s not as repayable and Koribban was like 2 seconds long. It’s still the perfect sequel and does something’s better than KOTOR like force powers but I pick KOTOR over it any day
The player...didn't point out anything that Canderous hadn't already said...
Canderous: I was trying to end the battle more quickly!
Jagi: That's bullshit! You were hunting glory!
Jedi: He was trying to end the battle more quickly!
Jagi: Oh my God...you're right....
Part of it is the cadence and manner in which you say it. Cancerous sounds like he’s making excuses while you are presenting the logical choice.
Mandalorians aren't a very intelligent people
Jedi mind trick?
It's called a speech check.
Masterpiece RPG my ass lol
wtf I've played this game through like 5-6 times and never seen this
+Joe PlaysStuff because you didn't pick Canderous quite often.( Like me,i don't remember this as well)
I encountered Jagi, but when I went to fight him, he wasn't there.
do you need to have a high enough favour to canderous or something?
Provoking Perch You have to have him finish talking about his past.I've experienced everything this game had to offer ._. (from side missions to every dialog option) cause I beat it so much (lost count at 16).
Johan Liebert then you must know if there’s any side missions for Jolee like this?
Jagi has such a lust for revenge.
+RexVergstrong Holy shit. I knew that voice sounded familiar.
+ColonelSmoke This is basically Skullface vs Solidus.
+RexVergstrong I looked it up too... This is incredible ! I always loved Ordo's voice, but I played MGS2 and Kotor so far apart that I never thought of a link between those games. This makes this particular scene that much more badass !
WHOOOOOO!?
answering years later, but i just checked and jagi's voice actor is also the voice of Sundowner in mgr
I just realized Canderous is the same voice actor as solidus snake from MGS2. I never got far enough to do this quest when I was a kid, and I can't remember ever hearing him get flustered or pissed in the same manner as Snake's brother. Mind blown.
My Roommate: Where those Mandalorian having a debate over tactics or religion?
My answer: "Both, apparently."
War and strategy *is* their religion
To the Mandalorians, tactics & religion are one & the same.
I love the two kotors more than any other rpg I've played. I just think they do an amazing job of giving every character a backstory, and giving the mc every chance to get to know all of them, especially in the second game, where hard work allows one to recruit them to the force, based on careful conversation choices and plot decisions.
Revan: But did you die?
Jagi: I done fucked up
Canderous: you didn't die so why you trippin?
i love how jagi torments canderous the same way canderous does carth
Carth is a crybaby at least Cancerous can live with the decisions he makes in war even if he's not proud of all of them
@@jamessmith-gf2vk Carth thinks his family died while he was on his way to save them… that might have some lasting effects
Trying to figure out how I got from Fist of the north star to here..
Lol same
For me it was jojo
You are already DEAD!
Brawny future dudes fighting in a desert. Basically the same thing.
@@ProfesserLuigi yep
Jagi:"Canderous!"
Revan: "This is not the mandalorian you're looking for"
Jagi walking away: "This is not the mandalorian I'm looking for"
Canderous: "............. Jagi?"
There's so much I missed in this game, I had the two jedi as my companions almost all of the time.
Maciek Kusnierz every single character except for T3 has a side quest. Come on now..
I always keep Carth and Bastila or Carth and Jolee
@@alexk1682 HK doesn't as far as I am aware, unless you count the repair of his memories.
I Always had Bastila in my team😁
@@thewisedragon6029 I always had Bastila in my dreams
Rest in peace Canderous. Never forgotten.
Such a lust for revenge....WHOOOOOOOOO!
thor9356 😂😂😂😂😂
Whoooo?
4:50: Mandalore after watching a FilthyFrank cake video
Lololol
I have no idea who filthy frank is but this still holds comedic value. Thanks for the laugh.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHA
I’m dying laughing
Avitus has always been a grumpy warrior
Oh, I knew he sounded familiar
Avitus is a Mandalorian lol
More corpses...
Revan: "no you don't have to do this"
Canderous: "Anyways I started blasting"
Nice vid! I played this part yesterday, only I tried to Mind Trick Jagi into not fighting. Canderous told me not to use my powers on him and we fought anyway.
I still believe that JAgi's killing himself was something that surprised me in that game when I first saw it. This game has so many surprises.
RUclips recommend one KOTOR video like this, now I'm marathoning them.
I like how you added more facial hair to this Revan head. The soul patch was great by itself, but adding more made it even greater.
R.I.P. John Cygan.
Oh, hello Avitus, Skullface, President Shinra.
12 years since this video (not the game) was released. And I remember it being recent. When RUclips had yet stars. Damn...
Funny how time slips away
I don’t remember him killing him self 🤣 I’M DIEING 😂
I'm surprised Shem never uploaded Juhani's personal Side Quest.
Canderous is a loyal beast, no matter how many times he has broken up upon Revan's will.
18 years later, I am just learning about this event
Not to mention, Even if the battle would've been won, many more Mandalorians lives would've lost. If you think about Canderous made a very militarily intelligent decision, while also thinking about the lives of his comrades who weren't dead, yet unwittingly abandoned Jagi's friends to be killed by the enemy. It was actually a very hard decision, but Jagi would've been dead along with his comrades anyway if Canderous did not act.
I understand why Jagi killed himself (stupid as the logic is) but why did the two goons he brought with him have to die? 'Oh dear, the boss called it off, want to take down the jedi and the legendary warrior on our own?' 'Yeah, let's give it a shot.' 'CHAA-YEEAARGH!!!'
WORDS THAT KILL
Todd Coward wot u duin here, Todd?
@@chasecurtis5824 ikr
Would you speak them to me?
With your breath so still, it makes me believe
In the Father's sins
Let me suffer now and never die
I'm ALIIIIIIIIIVE
Such a classic game. We need another in this era
I am glad, you've changed the appearance of Jagi here. At least two more weirdos use the same skin - Igear in Taris Outcast Village and Gurney at Taris Medical Centre. They should have made different textures. =)
neterwan yeah, hardly looked warrior or Mandalorean-like compared to beef cake Canderous
Guess we are getting recommended this mandalorian wisdom
Mandalore the Preserver. Eternal respect.
I have ~200 hours on this game and never once in my many play throughs have I seen this encounter
How do you have 200 hours without doing every part members side quest at least once?
Dusty Rhodes good question, how have I gotten more hours and done more play through a and still haven’t gotten this encounter
@@Kuraakka it's alright... somehow I'd never done it either, despite playing it well over a decade... I guess I favored my Jedi companions and the rest took a backseat.
Lust for vengeance against a brother
Sounds just like jagi
Fucking love this game
I think he means those "idiots" at BioWare who put Jagi in basic clothes. At least that was my impression was when I first read the comment.
"You sent your own men to die Canderous?"
Meetra:.........
So much content in this game Jesus
I played the game for the first time and totally missed this guys story
Sometimes when I visit the mall, I feel like that Czerka guy walking through their dialogue.
It sounds like to me like after the 2nd to like maybe the 5th play through, or how many it took before you developed your routine on how you liked to play the game, you never added the habit to talk to Canderous more. With all party members and their side quests, you have to talk to them a lot or you won't get it.
Lol is that Avitus being mad about war?
Bendak Starkiller isn't the only Mandalorian to wear yellow Mandalorian armor.
Here is a quick way to see if anybody else has asked this to use as future reference.
Hit the link at the bottom of the comments where it says "view [number of comments] all comments"
Hit Control F (Ctrl F) on your keyboard. Then put in the word Xbox in it. If you do that you will see how many times others have had queries about the Xbox version.
I always put: JUST KILL HIM!.... YOU WILL DIE!
and well, seems I've missed a lot
GOAT Star Wars game and the best non-book canon outside of the original trilogy.
It always puts a smile on my face when people are familiar with my work. :D
The Quest that rarely actually activates properly...
It doesn't matter where you meet Jagi as long as it isn't Tatooine at first. Then you go there later.
Skull Face?
yep.
+warren byrne -- so, jagi = skull face from mgs v?
+zinki120 yep after he died as a skull face this is who he became
+warren byrne so skull face was reincarnated as jagi. and solidus snake reincarnated as canderous??
zinki120 yep . and Naomi incarnated as Bastila .
yeah they are my favorite star wars games ever.
the PC one is SO diffrent fromt he x-box one... but how the ehll do you get tha peaceful resalution i know it's possiable on x-box but HOW?
he killed himself over THAT???? holy shit!!!!
I hope Apeiron Kotor has the side quests like this too.
Unfortunately.....
How do they wear Mandolorian Armor?
The true enemy, was the video quality!!!
jagi didnot have mandalorian armor when i met him
it takes a real man to admit that he might be wrong, especially when there is hardly any evidence
"So that you could have the 'honor' of being the first to kill the enemy commander!"
Hm... I wonder who had the (dis)honor of being the second to kill the enemy commander.
bro, couple questions
#1 how'd u get facial hair?
#2 how'd u get that sick armor for canderous?
message me!
Damn didn't know you could avoid the duel. I always killed jagi because honor demands it.
I see that you convinced Jagi to listen. He was always stubbern when I tried it.
And that's why he's Manlorde in the Sequel
I've lost count how many times I played this game I never knew this existed (this is what happens when you only play with jedi)
You too have known loss, Canderous.
I'm glad you figured it out! :D
@Xghgjkl: That's an interesting thought, but the problem is the "hired help" always attacks no matter what, even when Jagi kills himself and I don't see why other Mandalorians would attack in that situation considering it is Canderous we're talking about.
FOR MANDALORE!!!!
loved this game and the 2nd game on my xbox
Jagi could've redeemed his honour by fighting for him.
or, just by walking away--like a man.
Yes, Jagi will still be there because that quest is a "side" quest, not the main quest to find Star Maps.
Star Gear Solid V: The Phantom Menace
Damn Jagi not only hate Kenshiro, but also Canderous how ironic
Holy shite! I've never seen canderous that angry!
I never cared much about Canderous, so I never had this quest. Same goes for Juhani. Too bad I missed all of this back when I played KoTOR the first few times.
Sem Koops in the opinions of most, he is the most entertaining and interesting character.
Well, let me give you this hint. I don't have the resources to actually pay voice actors to play those parts, then mod it in the game, all in effort to try to fool people on RUclips.
hahhaha
I didnt even know u could give Canderous Crusader armor
SAY MY NAME, CANDEROUS
you have to take him outside of the ship in your party after you've talked to him a bit...then jaggi will show up.
I had no idea this was in the game!? I really need to go back and replay kotor. What else did i miss when I last played?
you just need to get Candorous to finish talking about his past
+haruhidude If you tend to miss this kind of thing, you also probably missed:
Bastila's mother, Helena.
Carth's son, Dustil.
Mission's brother, Griff.
Juhani's enemy, Xor.
Possibly Jolee's old friend, Sunry.
I actually got.
Bastila's mother.
Carth's son
Mission's brother
and Jolee's friend Sunry.
Didn't know Juhani had an enemy.
haruhidude I wouldn't blame you, I find Juhani really hard to talk to.
+Dylan McChald and shes so annoying I kill her nearly every time
Solidus vs Skull Face
oh wait never mind just got him to spawn for the first time. finally. after beating the game at least 10 times now.
Canderous is awesome. I have spoken.
wow i never had that...and it showed part of Canderous that I never thought he had lol.
go by the sandcrawler. the side of the sandcrawler that has that big drop in elevation
Jagis' appearance has been modded here. Otherwise, this encounter is exactly the same in the unmodified game.
The honor to be the "first" to kill the enemy commander.
You can kill him a second time?
"It will be you and me alone in the dune seas of Tatooine: a final battle that can only end in death."
Did anyone else think that line was funny?
Wow....so that's what happened. I've never done this. I've tried talking to Canderous numerous times, but it failed...
Oh cool Canderous had a side quest. Too bad he's not cool enough to bring along anywhere
robineir ?