KotOR - Master Uthar swears allegiance to Darth Revan
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- The rare dialogue options available to dark sided players who make Korriban their final planet and Master Uthar their ally. This dialogue exists in the base game and is not generated by any mods. Expand description for details.
Class:
Dark side Smuggler/Jedi Guardian female, melee weapons only play-through
Planet progression:
Tatooine, Manaan, Kashyyyk, Korriban
Cosmetic mods used (note that some mods are no longer available, as they were previously stored on filefront):
KotOR Ultimate Mod
Canderous Mandalorian Items
Juhani New Look mod
KotOR NPC Overhaul mod
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Uthar: "You have not gained enough prestige to impress me."
Also Uthar five seconds later: "You have impressed me."
You know a game has depth when you have played it 5 times and still haven't seen this outcome
yea you need to have korriban as your last planet
I've finished it three times and I'm still discovering different outcomes for each choice
5 times? Those are rookie numbers
Too many times to count and never saw this. Does it only occur if you're a female character?
@@darklordojeda nah, you can get it as a male too
Years of playing KOTOR and I never did this, I always opted to kill them both and then the academy. Dark Side or Light Side playthrough...
You gotta leave korriban till last after you do the leviathan stuff. I always did Korriban first because it's the most fun fucking with the other people....and then butchering them both at the end lol
Lol I got that my second playthrough
You can actually turn Yuthura Ban to the Light.
I usually kill them both, pulling an Order 66/Knightfall on the Sith Academy is just so damn satisfying lol
A true sith
Lol, I just killed everyone in the academy in the end...
Same. That's my favorite. Either killing both Uthar and Yuthura as dark side, or killing Uthar and turning Yuthura to the light. Then just eviscerataing the Sith. So satisfying lol.
@@mysite1012 😂
@@reymenders5437 Makes me feel like Darth Bane minus the manipulation lol.
@@mysite1012 😅 lol smh
Honestly, Uthar is one of my favorite Sith masters; he touts fury but is ironically pretty chill when he speaks. He even keeps this calm when Revan reveals himself to him. (Well, her in this case but canonically male)
That's amazing! I never knew that this was even possible, thanks for sharing!
Bro me too. wtf???
What exactly wasn't possible?
To know you’re Darth Revan before this point, you usually go to the Sith Academy before you find out you’re Darth Revan
@@obsidianreaper9507canonical, korriban is the last planet
@@obsidianreaper9507 so it still gives u the option to say ur darth revan to him even tho u didnt go on the ship first?
Points for using the same transition (horizontal wipe) as the movies.
Bonus fun fact: Master Uthar has the same voice actor as Prof Utonium from PowerPuff Girls!
That’s bonkers
Looking back, his voice did sound familiar
It's Tom Kane. He has a pretty distinct voice. He's probably in almost every animated show or video game you've ever heard of. Star Wars is no exception. He voices a number of characters, including Yoda, in The Clone Wars series.
In this game alone, he plays Master Vandar, Uthar Wynn, Ajunta Pall, Roland Wann, and probably a handful of minor/no-name characters too.
This is why I love the KOTOR series. There is so much that you can miss depending on your play through. You can almost always find something you haven’t seen before
Always have wished that there should have been another option: kill Uthar, reveal your identity, have Yuthura swear her allegiance to you, and leave her in charge without killing the rest of the academy.
But you can do that.
@@dianabarnett6886 Couldve sworn that if you side with Yuthura at all the rest of the academy turns on you.
Only if you kill her or convince her to leave/turn her to the light. If you spare her without turning her from the dark side, she becomes the new head of the academy.
@@Jabber5000 including yuthura herself. you have to kill them both.
I kill the academy anyway for the XP, but most of that can happen except for Yuthura swearing loyalty to you.
Man insanity in KotOR is sooooo good
Funny. I always kept Korriban for last as it seems fitting.
as for me its impossible for me to beat the terentatek early on, so i left midway and went to other planets LOL
Yeah it really is regardless if you do Dark Side or Light Side run. I picture visiting Korriban as beginning of nailing the last nail to the coffin of turning player character as dark side [SPOILERS BELOW]
After losing Bastila on Leviathan and Carth’s demeaning justification against the Revan it only fuels to necessity of turning Dark Side also the actual final nail to coffin is facing Bastila on that Rakata Temple. Seeing her as Servant of Dark Side was a final straw for turning Revan to DS. In LS play through Korriban serves as direct opposite of DS play through. I mean if you play as LS Revan Korriban’s role is to serve as a wake up call for horror that only Sith can do.
Even though I tried agreeing with both of them, eventually both of them betray me because I didn't inform Uthar about Yuthura's poisoning plan...so I just ended up killing both :(
nvm i succeeded at keeping yuthura alive
Yuthura will always betray you. If you choose her, and help her against Uthar, she will turn against you after you killed Uthar. But you can spare her life if you want.
Yuthura wasnt planning to poison him uthar was planning to poison yuthura. Yuthura wanted u to kill uthar with her.
Also why is that sad. They were a lost cause. Pure evil.
@@captainamerica7800 yuthura wasn't a lost cause, you can turn her to a jedi and she appears on dantooine if you go to dantooine after korriban
I didn’t even knew this was a thing in the game thanks for sharing.
Why does that sith instructor speak alien language
Lord Inquisiteur Willhelm Von Steiner I think he mentions in dialogue that he grew up/raised by Twi’leks.
Yeah, and his basic accent is bad so he doesnt want to get picked on by everyone else
He basically speaks like that because galactic basic is known as the language of the Republic and Jedi and he's so hardcore Sith that he refuses to even utter the same words as them.
For he is not Sith. You misunderstand. He is Ren. And Revan. Once and neither Jedi, nor Sith. But Sh'edi. The First and Last of his Kin. But them that call themselves Kindred.
Speak ye Friend and Enter
Fuck. I should've gone here last.
Now I'm really curious about the other options when he asks you who you are.
The sith like to prod and test so he was simply seeing what Darth Revan would say.
I got here, but Uthar got mad at me once I killed Yuthara saying he didn't know how much I betrayed him and I had to kill him, why?
You probably didn't poison Yuthura like he told you to. Also, when Yuthura tells you her plot to overthrow Uthar you must tell him and follow through with his commands then you'll get this ending.
I did that: Maybe I was lightside?
Oops I mean darksided yes, it's a dark side quest
Agent Washingtub You probably reported back to Yuthura about Uthar discovering her plot
Correct if you want Uthar to swear allegiance to you, you don't tell Yuthura anything about Uthar's plan. If you need to get into Uthar's chamber to get the info for Dustil then you can get T3 or yourself to open the doorway.
Sometimes pragmatism is a better course.
Ultimately, Pragmatism is the only suitable course. Necessity being the Mother of all things.
Seek and Ye Shall Find. Where there is a Will, there is a Way.
Is good to see this, i already know it
Its simple, you have to leave Korriban the last possible, after your capture by Malak and Batilla is taking prisoner, that will be between 3-5 map, 4 better say... so do the 4 maps the rest of planets and let Korriban last ever... because then at that stage you know who you really are the DARTH LORD OF THE SITH, before you would not, so the dialog would be just, YOU ARE A GOOD STUDENT AND BETTER THEN THE REST, *THAT'S ALL*
Uthar: Well, that escalated quickly.
Once or twice I played the dark side, but since I am going to go dark, I always did this planet first since it's a sith planet. So I had no chance of getting this convo.
0:23 Sounds so tempting omfg...
I always poisoned them both then told them who I was. It always ended with me killing them both then the academy whom of which did not believe me lol
How do you poison them???
@@cosinguspalpatine4449 Uthar by putting a device on his bed, and Yuthura through the bath.
I have never seen this before. Thanks for sharing!
Kotor is so cool. Amazing writing for a game. By far one of the best games ever.
Master Uthars final exams were always difficult when I went to Sith College
And Uthar is an amazing sith.
One suggests going 2 on 1, the other suggests using poison to weaken the opponent. It‘s a good reminder of the hypocrisy of the sith.
It's not hypocritical. To be stronger doesn't mean to have better strength, or better reflexes. It means to be more capable of achieving victory. The ability to make allies or find a new way to achieve what you want is nothing more but another way in which you can be seen as stronger. Their entire life is struggle, and so they are always prepared to fight and should always anticipate every kind of hostility from everyone (including the unfair ones, especially if they themselves are willing to be unfair). That means that if they die because of ''unfair'' fight, it wasn't because the enemy was unfair, it means they lost because they weren't as... capable as him. Yes, capable is probably the best word for this.
@@fanta4897 Sorry for the late reply, I wholeheartedly disagree with your assesment. It matches that of the people in the KotoR-era, but it's fundementally flawed. So the point is to see who is the greatest individual in a "nietzsche-sense", and you've converted into it "who would be the best at serving in a group, who would be the best at gathering allies, who would be the best at falling in line". I'm not saying that these are your words, but this is the rationale of the argument. I'm sure there's a word for this in philosophy, but basically there's a reason why "absolute in its relativity" is not a paradox. You're supposed to discern yourself that it's a functioning statement and not a paradox.
Now, just because it's not a paradox, it doesn't mean it changes it's meaning. If the sith only acted in absolutes, and some jedi wanted to join by the reasoning that he was absolute in his relativistic stance, that wouldn't work.
Bane realized that the infighting, as seen in the video, allowed weaker sith to rise to the top. That is what he wanted to change, as all these underhanded tactics didn't make the sith stronger. Bane was wrong on a lot of things, but this was not one of them. These "unfair circumstances" was sith using tactics that were antithetical to the purpose of the sith code and purpose. If you have a powerful sith lord ruling at the top, as was intended, and then you have 1000 sith acolytes gathering up to take the throne from you, will their cooperation somehow prove that the strong reign supreme? No, the sith order then just lost their greatest single asset. The sith are about individual strength, not the "individual strength" of banding up or weakening your opponent.
Now, the sith after Bane were also encouraged to manipulate and so on, but always to further the strength of the sith. Not all adversity is good adversity, and even the sith realized this. If your entire body becomes burned to a husk, you won't become stronger by it just because it introduces more pain and conflict into your life. Darth Vader's ultimate power was but a fraction of what it would've been if he had not been injured, even though his hate became stronger because of it. "Healthy conflict" I suppose is what I would call it. So you can make the jedi code and purpose fit a lot of arguments, for example seen in the dark brotherhood, but you are supposed to realize what the ultimate purpose is on your own in order to achieve their "moral victory" as well as ultimate victory. The sith wanted their code to win, but also to destroy the jedi. How do you achieve the strength to win while maintaining the essential aspects of competitiveness?
Actually, as I just completed this, I continued on my readthrough of Darth Bane - Dynasty of Evil. Bane's body was deteriorating due to the obelisks and extended use of the dark side, as well as his injuries. He was wondering why Zannah had not yet challenged him to the duel, and he mentions the possibility that she is just waiting for time to pass, as she can then claim the throne of the sith without risk. However, he makes the correct assesment that this would make her unworthy of being his heir. Now you can make a perfectly good argument as to why Zannah should wait, and defeat Bane when he's at his weakest, but you've gotta remember the ultimate purpose of the sith. All that talk about conflict is to further the individual, not the group.
@@TheAwesomoe I haven't taken into consideration the presence of another faction like Jedi. All I did was explain how the sith infighting is not a sign of hypocrisy in the sith thinking (although it might be a legit mistake in sith thinking, as you correctly assessed, there is a great dillema of maintaining competitivness while aiming to win over someone else, and the sith thinking is much more aimed at themselves rather than dealing with outside threat). I don't think that you can argue that sith who is able to cooperate, and chooses to cooperate against stronger fiend is not stronger. Yes, Bane assessed that as a group, the sith are weakening themselves with their infighting, and if that would be what would really happen, I would agree with your comment. However the stories we're discussing are fictional and hence cannot be taken as proof of someone being wrong or right. I'm debating about the thinking proccess and not about it's flaws, apperantly shown by fictional story. The competitivness between the sith should, and if the story was happening realistically then even would, make sith faction stronger (there is nothing more powerful than ability to correctly asses the situation and act accordingly to overcome it, any sith who would not be dumb would come to conclusion that killing some great tactician, or warrior who is in the way of his promotion has to be thought over, pros: promotion, cons: risk of death from not only him, but also from a possible weakening of sith faction).
@@fanta4897 I guess you could say it's not an oxymoron, but it's hypocritical when you compare it to the espousal of individual strength. The sith mentality isn't merely a bureaucracy where promotion is all that matters. Now, the force is too strong, and all sith fall to the trap of endlessly chasing and coveting power, but it's antithetical to the code to care about some social hierarchy, in contrast to the potential gain of keeping the sith master alive.
Dang, might have to play this again just to do Korriban last.
How did I never know this omg thanks!
I love finding content in one of my favorite games I never knew existed for 20 years
Your comment is kinda confusing. Did you mean you never knew *this particular content of the game* existed for 20 years, or you never knew *this particular game* existed for 20 years?
@@Ronin-lb5ij im assuming the prior as I never knew this and I played this game constantly
Nice editing
I wasn't aware this was a rare option. I've gotten it twice.
Also, why a double-bladed vibroblade instead of a lightsaber?
Looks like ajuta pauls sword. pretty nasty really and better if you don't have good crystals yet.
I've gotten it on the first time.
@@cmcobb69 It's not Ajunta's sword, that looks slightly different.
I think this is Yussanis' sword, the one you get from the alien vendor on Tatooine. You can upgrade that one and it's really strong when you do. But ya, an upgraded lightsaber with the best crystals is still better.
so you can only get those dialouge options by doing koraban last?
Yes.
You can turn her to light side, it was not her choise to become sith.
Wait, is this actually true? This game is so full of alternative quest endings and I love it.
@@Matihood1 She was slave once and left Jedi Order, as she was unable to forget hatred towards slavers. You can persuade her that becoming sith was a mistake, since she wanted to help people, thats not what her life is now.
@ANONYMOUS Talk about her past, do mission, talk again, repeat. At the end refuse to kill her, she will go to Dantooine.
You must become her friend trough dialogue b4 you go into the final tomb in Korriban. Kill Uthar first and then you can convince her to return to the light side. Also if u do this b4 the Leaviathan and go back to the jedi temple you can see her in the dorm rooms in the back of the temple and talk to her.
I think it's not possible to do if you choose dark side path. You can do this if you're on the light side
revan : i am darth revan... bow before me !
uthar : ahhh... i see (said calmly)
I got this dialogue by pure coincidence.
played that game so many times. yet never seen this. I usually poised them both
Waiting to do Korriban perseveres the Dustil arc as well
Since when the fuck does Uthura have two lightsabers??? Always remember her having a short lightsaber shoto. That was such a classy touch👌👌👌
lol everybody knows female twileks use dual lightsabers. C'mon man.
Do you have to visit the leviathan first
TRockS yeah
ofc, before the leviathan you don't know that you are revan
Well duh. Of course. Pther wise if they had the option it would spoil the reveal.
No, on my first playthrough ever I done Korriban first, and did the same string (tell Uthar she tried to poison him, do his side quest, side with him at the tomb), and he still approved of the MC and the Academy didn't turn on him. I later came back to Korriban after learning MC is Revan, and Uthar acknowledged that.
If you do it before Leviathan, Uthar doesn't get this "Is it possible you are not what you seem to be?" line
I completed this task and it felt more satisfying to have the sith order have thier new queen rather than turn on each other.
Where would star wars be without Tom Kane?!
Damn dont even got a saber
This didn’t work for me. I didn’t get that last dialogue, instead Uthar just try’s to kill me...
You have to go to Korriban LAST. You have to go to all the three planets (Kassayk, Mannaan, Tattoine), then there's the revelation from Malak, THEN KORRIBAN.
Peter Liszka Incorrect. He simply didn't inform Uthar about the betrayal plan. I'm referring to the Uthar trying to kill him part, of course.
Apparently, you must inform Uthar about his apprentice plot to kill him, and follow his plan. However, it's best you do this early and not do other things that gain Uthar's endorsement to proceed the storyline, otherwise, you won't be able to carry out the plan or help his apprentice instead.
Also, to tell him you are Revan, you must visit the Leviathan first, by completing other maps first, leaving Korriban last.
OMG! Revan looks like Surik, as in Meetra Surik, NOT my Milo Surik (canon Meetra Surik and Darth Varkor's Zekk Vorrn).
I never realised you could side with him, whenever I tried he always turned on me in the end and I had to kill both.
I was always able to side with the girl though.
I've done kotor probably between 30 and 50 times with maybe only 5 female playthroughs.
So only now do I realise it probably depends on the gender of revan
It has nothing to do with gender, thesyntax to get thos outcome is:
1 Either enter Korriban after the events on the Leviathan, or, enter Korriban at any point (for example, to solve Carth's quest with Dustil) leaving your expedition to Nagga's tomb after the escape from the Leviathan.
2 Accept Yuthuras' offer to kill her master and tell him about her plan.
3 It is optional, but you could befriend Yuthura before the final encounter, this triggers a special dialog of her f3lling sentimentaly betrayed by you.
And... I think thats all. I'm about to replay the game for the first time in years so my memory could be wrong about something this, but overall, gender has nothing to do with the ultimate outcome on any quest in Korriban.
@@PointReflex mmm I can't be certain that I did those in the same playthroughs where I tried to team up with uthar but I've definitely done all of those many times.
I think I either have a glitched copy or I just got really unlucky and missed the right options every time.
No big deal though I prefer destroying the academy anyway,
I just saw this vid and couldn't believe it
What is the mod that makes the sith acacademy people actually wear something other than officer uniforms.
I... I had no idea! :o
0:24 Oh God no.
Sad i never met uthar
7:17
I kill yuthura and master Uthur says that I am not yet ready or something and then just leaves WTF he didnt even ask me who I was!!!!
I think YOU have to know you’re revan first. This is why many people recommend doing this planet last. I’m only really just learning about this dialog option now though, so I didn’t quite get why before. I’m doing a play-through right now and I may have screwed up cause I went to Korriban first. I’m hoping that if I come back later the game will acknowledge that I’ve learned my identity. I assume it will because this is one of the few rpg games that keeps such meticulous track of not just the choices you make, but the order in which you make them.
Yeah you can only do this after the Leviathan
Needs to be the final planet you do after the Leviathan and finding out you're Revan yourself.
wait you can DO that?
Stopped at 0:04
How old is Revan in Kotor?
Stopped at 0:02
No deal I'm only 32 bit it wouldn't be fair! #ONLY #32 #BIT 0:00
Maybe 36 bit but I dunno.
Maybe 64bit I dunno?
I may be wrong but isn't there a point in the game before you discover that you're Revan where you get this dialogue option but it takes on a totally different context where you're being sarcastic instead of intentionally telling the truth lol
Does this rare dialogue option appear in the Xbox version, too?
Yes
I cant believe Kotor is in the xbox store, but not playstation 😔😔
@@noahb336 They were Xbox exclusive games when they first came out. Then shortly after they ported them for PC
Why is utharin sith armor?
A mod, or custom add on.
Confirm, it's a mod, regular Uthar in KOTOR wears academy robes.
@@arbiteras what mod?
Cause that nigga strapped 24/7
0:30 Ugh. I hate this song. GRRR.
Amazing dialog, poor delivery.
thank you for choosing the correct revan
Well, the correct Revan is a male according to canon. But I played with a female too in my first playthrough.
Thats not the correct fucking revan. He is a white male in canon. And the extended universe.
>Female Revan correct
Maybe on your body pillow it is, but not in reality.
Maybe he was referring to the fact that this Revan is dark-sided and not Revan's sex...
@@solitudeau8188 Lol at Star Wars nerds complaining about whether a fictional character was male or female, and those who disagree "don't live in reality"
This as to be a mod
oh now it's real you have to leave it to be the last planet you visit but it's something you can do in this game/ it's kotor 2 that had a large amount of its content cut
@@Theseamus2000 true bro damn
You really think some random guy would manage to get Tom Kane to record lines for a mod?
Technically he's correct in the sense that there is a mod being displayed, that being the one that puts Uthar in Sith armor. But as far as the dialogue itself, no that's in the base game you just have to do the Leviathan before this scene.