2023 Honda Civic Type R - First Drive (POV Binaural Audio)
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Correction! It’s. 4 pot brembo. So used to saying 6. My bad.
Made me question… wait 6?
Tedward,
The “fake side vents” on the front bumper r there purposely “to aid overall down force” according to Honda, based on their wind tunnel test. Beautiful car 👌
Hey Tedward! How would you compare it to MX-5 NC or an ND on a backroad, is it WAAY better? Does the shifter feel better than it feels in Miatas? I have an NC MX-5 and I'm looking to buy a 4-seater now.
Also very interested in this question!
a handling sporty version of 2023 prius sort of car for cheap cost of lviing and balance between combustion and battery, the every mans every day car, where pedals that push back to discourage over powering and over braking, steerind and chassis and seats that communicate how near grip limit car is, maybe a little gforce meter that shows up when near grip limit, light weight high speed momentum preserving geometries ,... all would help maximize longveity of fuels, tires, brakes, battery, and make car crash safe for people inside and outside car, by lightweighting and energy absorption and making driver pay attention to driving enviroment by making hypermiling perfection fun. how about a aftermarket parts swap for adding this to any car, especially for cars lighter than average sedan, like around 3500 lbs?
I grew up in the 90s and graduated school in the mid-2000s, there was nothing more important than my Honda. Fuel efficient, simple, and quick. I feel like Honda finally marketed this type R to people of my generation.
unfortunately it isn’t as affordable 🥲
The generation drowning in student loan debt, that has faced 3 economic crisis in their lifetime, a global pandemic, uncontrollable inflation and dealer mark ups 😊
1998 i got my first car a V8. Still drive a V8 sedan. Camaro to Cadillac. Honda was and still is a car i personally would be very upset if i had to drive. Different strokes for different folks
This ^. Explains EVERYTHING
@@trentimus5700 Jesus christ. Nobody can summarizing our generation better than this. Sooo accurate.
“Don’t know of a 40K car that feels this dialed”. 100%. I felt the same way within a few minutes of driving it. You’re getting Porsche levels of driving tactility at a significant discount. Enjoy the car, Tom!
my 34K Hyundai Elantra N is much more fun to drive than Civic Type R, i bet. Also, I have more than 12K saved in my bank account.
@Soul Flow that's exactly what I'm thinking. I have my EN MT and I feel like it has a lot better value the the CTR. Similar performance (and a 10x better exhaust) for like 10k less.
Camaro SS 1le is extremely dialed in. With dealer ADM, you can easily get something like a porsche
@lawnmower6591 , true, and our EN N sounds best for 4 cylinder, period. It is fast enough to have fun, handles amazing, love the interior design too
@@Soul_Flow_ the seats light up!
The front bumper "fake vents" are there for a purpose. That crease in the bumper is there to bounce air around the front tire in a smooth flow, so its not sucked into the wheel well (there are flow charts that Honda put out, they're floating around somewhere). There are functional air vents in the front for brake cooling - they are on the sides of the bottom main air dam.
I am a brand new car enthusiast and fell in love with Honda because of formula one. This is my new dream car. Thanks for the Thorough review!
I always failed to understand why some people are so crazy about cars until I watched a bunch of your videos. These insanely engineered machines just keep growing on me. Thank you so much for getting me into automobiles :)
I was the same way until I rode a friends bmw 😂
Congrats on the Type-R dude! It looks great and I can't wait to see more content on it.
Man, I watched a LOT of Tedward Civic Si videos over the past 10 months or so, and between ADMs at Honda dealerships, supply chain woes, and Integra comparisons, I finally ended up getting into an Integra 6MT after compulsively watching this channel during a long, long wait. Of course, now that I finally have the car and can stop obsessing over these vids, Tedward (AND TheTopher ferchrissakes!) pick up Type Rs. So now I guess I get to repeat the entire process while daydreaming about the upcoming Type-S. Dammit Tedward.
I still remember that feeling… I walked in a BMW / Acura dealership and there it was, a 1998 integra Type R championship white. I was afraid to ask, but the dealer told me that I could have it at MSRP, out the door for 26 k… so I got no. 998. Still to this day, no car I have driven has given me the same huge grin. Unrefined by today’s standards, on twisty roads it was an absolute weapon… no sound insulation, just the scream of the v-tech…
The best part of the video is how excited you are about it :)
Congratulations on your vehicle. How cool is it to be that thrilled by a new car, when you drive them every week!
I’ve driven my dads 11th gen sedan and even with the cvt and 180 hp that thing is a blast, I can’t even imagine what 300hp feels like in this chassis
I think this car is absolutely gorgeous! I hate fake vents, fake carbon fiber, and gloss black. The 10th gen CTR had all that and this generation fixed all of that as well as adding a giant hood vent for cooling, sick red carpet, and just an amazing infotainment and sound system. I’m only 19 so I do not have the money for one of these… but if I did I’d definitely purchase one
You're only 19 so your opinion carries no weight. By the way those aren't fake vents, they are functional and Honda has charts that show the aerodynamics and cooling by convection that's going on around the wheel wells and brakes.
@@alexv5581 shut up you're probably like 50 and no one cares about what you say
I want one! I owned a manual ‘98 Civic Ex sedan for 13 years, it was a lot of fun to drive. 😊👍🏼
I got my FL5 on the 13th in Rallye Red and absolutely love it. I got number 720. Down here in GA we don't have to worry too much about the summer tires.....except this past week with the polar vortex that hit, but its an amazing car.
So excited for you man, even with my late ‘00 cars, a new car is an awesome feeling. Your vids brighten up my day whenever I see a new one up. Drive safe, and thanks for sharing
I think the confidence is due to the chassis rigidity. I noticed the same thing in the new BRZ. Chassis rigidity in modern cars is something else.
When Tedward, Topher, and Savage all purchase this car, you know it's good.
Beautiful Type R bro, what a way to spend the New Years ! It’s gonna be a good one.
Let's go! So happy for you - please keep these coming as I'm living vicariously through you until I get mine here in Canada!
Where/how did you find one? MSRP? ADM?
@@shahrukhbakar3248 In Canada, it's illegal to sell above MSRP and to charge a dealer markup. It is legal to heavily push options and packages here though. But I bought my 2022 Civic at MSRP and nothing was forced on me!
Maybe in your Province, but consumer protection law varies wildly across the country as it is a matter of provincial jurisdiction. Alberta has no such law.
Awesome video. I have an integra and this makes me want to upgrade to the type S
The real testament to how good this Type-R is that most of the very few car youtubers that I trust with their taste and opinions actually went out and bought one, Tedward included. It's one thing when people say something is good, but it's a completely different level when they spend their own money to have one.
Happy for you man! Enjoy!
Long time bmw m series owner and a fanboy. I always wanted to own a Honda and experience myself what the fuss is about regarding the best manual in the business. Came really close to buying a s2000 but couldn’t fit well with my 6’1 figure. Ended up getting a E46 M3 shortly after. FK8 was just too wild for me especially the rear design and got shy away from one. Now this FL5 type R is my last chance to own a ICE manual Honda product.
Bro, I had the FK8 and sold it to get a 2023 BMW M4 manual. I never thought I’d miss the Type R so much!! Honda literally makes the best shifter. You comments about the M cars really resonates with me and I am legitimately thinking of getting the FL5 now. Any advice?
I was waiting for this video! Congrats! I am very excited about the Type R content!!
Make sure you get on it during the break in, not WOT banging gears, but yeah you need to seat those rings… I had a car I babied from the beginning and it was always an oil burner. My WRX is got on it slowly and harder and harder the first 1k and it only burns a small amount.
I own a 2001 civic coupe and it's just a little single cam base model and it still feels spirited in a way I can't explain. Hondas have this magic to them that make you feel connected to the car even if it's slow but A lot of it has to do with how perfect Honda shifters feel lol
nice! that exact same car (my gf's 01 Civic ex coupe) is the one I learned about Honda's quality, reliability and simplicity that got me into the 11th gen Civic Si.
Type Rs just give me some sort of feeling in my stomach, I love it I want one.
Enjoy your new car - I didn’t drive it but from your video, seems insane! I would love to see you review Mazda CX-30 Turbo and what do you feel about driving it and the whole experience. I think there might be some controversy by some people kind of hating on it and the other considering it a sleeper hot hatch on stilts and endearingly calling it “mini-Macan”. Interesting to hear your opinion and commentary.
I apologize for some grammar mistakes - I wrote it without thinking much 🤦♂️🤣🤪
Cangrats on your new car mister ! Love your videos !!! :) Peace and health from Circuit Gilles Villeneuve ;)
The FL5 looks awesome! I have a 2010 Civic LX Coupe and I also just ordered weather tech floor mats.
28 mpg isn't too shabby for the power and torque you are getting with that chassis I think. I get the same in my 05 RSX-S with a 210hp 145 lb-ft K20z1, so not bad imo.
In my 22 si I get 19mpg , I drive her hard
@@patrickrusso4821
That seems disappointing. I used to get 20 around town in an S2000 and I drove that car like I had stolen it.
this is my dream car at the moment, although it will be extremely hard to acquire one here in Brazil :(
Love the car man! Awesome video !!
I'm excited to see the accord type r, that will be interesting
Was slightly confused when you traded all your cars for the Si. Happy you're enjoying your Type R!
I only traded one car for the si. I still have the 911 and m5
Just picked up my '23 Si last week, you definitely helped me finalize my choice, fantastic car and a big upgrade from my 2012 Ford fiesta 🤣
I'm annoyed that Si is not offered in EU, only the hybrid crap and R. Muricans keep getting the cool stuff eh.
@@khelgarironfist3301 Canadians get the best version, heated seats front and rear and heated steering wheel, I live in US so I don't get that stuff unfortunately
@@Anubis1111 well this car is too aggressive for canadians anyway.
@@khelgarironfist3301 it’s kind strange they don’t offer it. I think the Si would make a great European car. It offers good performance with amazing fuel economy. I can only imagine driving mine on the mountain roads out there. If I get stationed in Germany one day I’m definitely shipping mine over.
@@andrewb325 Given that it's an Alliston built Civic, they all probably would be toiling on EU's road for the next 2 decades with all original components. When demand dies down, hopefully they start to ship them to that side of the ocean. For our harsh Canadian winter and no tax premium, I prefer my base 2017 K20 6MT Civic over the Si.
Him: "Not gonna do it, not gonna do it..."
Me: "DO IT ! C'MON DO IT !"
LETS GOOOO!!!! NEW TYPE-R IS HERE
I was never really a fan of the civics, but this new generation of civics have really caught my eye. They seem to be a lot more appealing than the last generation of civics.
The 2023 hatchback owner manual does have a break in period! That said it's pretty generic
Page 500. Bottom right.
"During the first 600 miles of operation, avoid sudden acceleration or full throttle operation so as not to damage the engine or power train"
a downside is type r’s are basically ferraris to gen x and younger. my coworker has the 10th gen type r and, in the handful of times i’ve ridden with him, you can see all eyes are on you. just full on staring at you at a light. cars also drive up next to you, match speed, and rev in the highway. i guess they want to race? thankfully my coworker just ignores them. he’s like 40 and has kids, i doubt he races anybody
I can't believe the rear wheel comes off the ground when backing out of your driveway, that's insane!! Lol
I love randomly finding disc golf baskets in youtube videos.
What an absolutely beautiful car ♥️
Came to terms with how I feel lately, I'm just, more excited, and impressed by what's been coming out of the latest JPN makes than any other euro car as of late. They're stylish, well-thought out, and of course, fun. Absolutely jealous of your Type-R, dude, it looks so good. Hope you have a wonderful ownership experience with yours, and looking forward to more awesome content!
i very much agree with this. Toyota with their Yaris and Carolla GRs (not to mention the new manual supra), Nissan with the 400z, Honda with the new Si and now the FL5 R. in terms of drivers cars, nobody is doing like the boys over in Japan right now.
I think the speed limit flashing icon would annoy me after a while.
Beautiful car
Excited to see more!
I would love a video on how to protect a car driving on winter roads.
Dude, this is so exciting! Picked up my FL5 on Wednesday and it has been locked up in the garage due to snow. Cannot wait to officially get it on the road.
Congratulations on the new Type R! The styling looks gorgeous in an understated way and totally get the every man's GT3 comparison!
IT'S YOUR BABY! IT'S YOUR BABY!!!
Congrats Tedward!!! Love the channel and the type R. I am not one to throw hate on any cars based on FWD vs RWD or Honda vs Porche. I completely understand where you're coming from a well-built fun car is just that. I have owned and driven many cars from focus st, veloster n, Camaro SS, M2 etc the list goes on. My question to you is for 40k you can get an SS 1le which as many know is one of the best cars for under 100k for quite a while. SS 1le vs the new type r which has the better overall driving experience. Things like back seat space and practicality aside. I just got a 1le for 35k but I was seriously considering holding out for a new type r. I cannot wait to drive one eventually. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Yeah that or a stang would probably pull me away from this. I think it depends how you're using it, how much highway driving (where the v8s really shine over this), how much traffic, how narrow are the streets, etc. Assuming this is your only car and a daily.
Nice! Congratulations!
It's crazy that when the CTR came out in 2017 it was only 33K.
COVID destroyed the car market. My 2018 accord is worth more today than when I bought it in 2020 with 18k miles on it
And still they had a mark-up at every dealer.
As fun as this thing appears to be I would never buy one living in New England. The WRX, GR Corolla and golf R all seem like better all weather solutions but these cars all share the same image issue. They scream boy racer. I wish you could get a manual in an AWD S3 or a 330i x drive with the msport package.
I'll never own one due to markup, but, this is the best looking type R I've seen
There’s a dealer in Joplin that only want 5k extra if you want the car go there
It’s more power than I need, and more than I’d really want to spend on a car, but if I could find one for MSRP I’d buy one in a heartbeat. The one that is available locally to me has a $20k markup and sadly someone will probably pay it.
Topher and you are living it up with these Type Rs! 😎
Mans gonna need that sponsorship for paying over 60k for this
At MSRP, it's a little expensive, but it puts down the lap times.. but those dealers' markups are ridiculous
Congratulations on your new Type R Ted ! Best Type R that Honda has produced if I may say so, cant wait to get behind the wheel. I reviewed a 21" Accord sport 2.0 and loved it, so I can only imagine that engine with a manual with the smaller stiffer platform! Im sure this is a much more fun car to drive/own than your former E92 M3, even though Im a BMW fan boy and drive a e90 for my daily! Have fun my friend! :)
I might be in the minority but I am not a fan of the red carpeting. So glad the weathertech floor mats cover most of it up. Looking forward to more videos of the type r!
Totally agree about comparing your M3 to this on backroads. I had an e92 M3, f80 M4, and currently have a 991.2 GT3. The FK8 CTR "replaced" my M4. I would say the M3 was just as fun as the CTR, but getting 170 miles on a tank was annoying. The M4 could be scary as it didn't have great traction, and had a ton of power. The GT3 is really fun, but the speeds get so high, so fast, that it takes away some of the fun because you are worried about getting pulled over going way too fast. I live not far from Sonoma Raceway, so all those roads you experienced are in my back yard. Congrats on the purchase.
Glad you like the car! Every time I watch your Type R videos, I get more and more excited for the Integra Type S.. Hopefully the pricing isn’t too atrocious 🫠
Dam she's a thing of beauty. I've said it before I'm an audi head but I'm also not narrow minded I appreciate many car brands (not named Subaru) and this new civic esp the si and R... Ooof
This video was definitely recorded before Christmas!
And many thanks for presenting us your car, Ted. Civic is my favorite one. When you finish smoothing the engine, would you make another vid pushing this car to the limits?
Kind regards!
Hard driving is probably not happening before spring for Ted. In addition to engine break-in, summer tires like the Pilot 4S don't like cold weather and they get really slick below 40 degrees F or so.
@@jimiverson3085 but I heard he saying he's bought winter tires for the car, so it might ending up sonner after he finishes the miles target.
@@TheStugbit
OK, but there are limits to hard you want to push a car on winter tires. The tires just aren't very rewarding to that type of driving on dry roads, even the tires rates as high performance. At least that has been my experience with winter tires on an S2000 and a Boxster.
@@jimiverson3085 so we have to wait for the spring time.
Congrats on this beauty! It's so hard to treat it like a baby and keep it warm and safe all the time, but it is a work of mechanical art that should be enjoyed and appreciated! Can't wait to see you really get on her sometimes and hear your thoughts about what it's like to live with after living with its docile sibling for a while.
I wish it comes to Pakistan we have Honda civic rs turbo which is 1.5 liter turbo it's almost same as your si this type r is so so impressive car I want to own this beast
The only thing I kinda wish Honda did with the rear-end is using full LED taillights with LED indicators and all. Feel like the halogen's are kind of a let down but tbh i could overlook that.
I love this car. A LOT! But people don't ever talk about how much things are when they go out, like head lights, dash screen and so on. I'll tell you I know the outer tail lights alone are $400
Kinda part of owner newer cars my tail light for my impala was 370 dollars
Agree on your mat/carpet idea. The red in my 2004 S2000 got kind of grotty pretty quickly. WeatherTech is probably the way to go for mats.
I'm not getting into line to pay ransom to a dealer just yet. I suspect that the Integra S rollout next year may change the pricing dynamic. Will at least put more options into the mix and the Integra may end up a better deal just because their current lineup isn't moving that well.
Planned on a WRX but this looks much better
Opinions? I can’t decide between a Type R, Toyota Supra, or Camry TRD I want an economical and reliable car that will last a long time, but one that I can also have fun with
You mentioned $45K and some people paying $60-70K...maybe I missed it, but what did you actually pay for the car? $45K? Thanks in advance.
Congrats. Wish it had a trunk like the accord instead of the mini suv look. Other than that its an awesome car ! I want one now 😂 . Good Review.
It's be tough for me to buy this over a 450 hp tire smoking beast at the same price (stang and maro) . Especially given how much open space we have in America. This car probably makes more sense in Europe / Japan with much smaller streets
Thanks Ted. Worried about the stiff ride in comfort. I drive a late model wrx which is stiff stock, how would this compare?
A lot of reviewers are in love with the performance but are skipping over the ride or not talking about it from a daily drive perspective. For most people this car will be driven on the street way more than the track.
I have the 21 TLX Type S. New Type R looks 🔥 bet it drives great
Great intro to your new whip! How stiff is the suspension compared to a 992.1 GT3 in terms of comfort?
absolutely love how futuristic-90's the rear looks. WIsh they had made it a 'real' hatchback and kept it a bit shorter, but it still looks awesome either way. plus, 100 more horsepower than my 2 liter!
hey man nice car! when you first started driving it was like deja vu. I take that road to get to work hahaha. maybe we'll pass each other sometime. if you pass by a 2013 Focus ST it might be me. love the white and looks so clean!
Every new car I’ve had recently - Alfa Giulia, G70, R/T Challenger - has had no or minimal info on break-in.
I remember when people used to install Recaro seats in their EM1's. Man... This newest gen civic is, I think, a direct descendent of the EM1, such a classic car.
Very nice Civic Type-R!! I live in the metro west area of Boston (Millis) so I know what you mean about us not having the best roads. I have a 2019 Civic coupe touring with 18,000 garaged and pampered miles on it that I've owned since new. Best of luck with the car, hope to add another Civic to my garage someday.
I love the new and old type r they still look good. I’ve wanted to get the FK 8 type r but also the new civic SI how much did u get ur Civic SI for?!
I don't know if Tedward has already addressed this question in another video, and I don't mean to sound accusatory of manufacturer favoritism, but did being an automotive RUclipsr with a following help you get this car almost immediately after its release date? TheTopher and Mark from Savagegeese also got new CTRs in the past couple of weeks, but I imagine Joe and Jane Average are going to have a very difficult time finding one of these to buy, period...and that's not even getting into the likely five-figure dealer markups they'll have to pay to make the deal.
Just curious when and how Tedward got on the list to buy one of these. And congrats on the car--you're going to love it!
I really love the new Type R. The only two thing I would change if I had the chance is the Exhaust. In my opinion the exhaust would look better if it was two exhaust tips on each side of the bumper kinda like the S2000. I know this is tribute to the previous Type R version but I can imagine only two exhaust exits on each side. And the Second thing I would change is the wheels. Do not get me wrong they look really good but still I would put different wheels. These two things are just little things that I would change about the car. Overall I think one of the greatest daily drivers for the money
Honda offers an alternative set of wheels for a price. I like it and might consider it for my fk8 if I ever destroy my oem rims
@@ImpactIke916 Really? That is awesome. I did not know that. But still I think AfterMarket would look dope with this car :D
I feel the same as you with new M cars. I had a few and the new ones just don’t hit the same. I think this car is great for the money if you can get one for msrp.
@@mharro88 like i said if you can get one for msrp its great.
Thx Honda for this car. Seriously in this day and age, a manual and hatch. Coming from a 19 sport touring manual owner. Congrats
The FL5 is beautiful! I still have my 99 EM1 and just had a brand new clutch put in. Honda for life! The only gross thing about this car is the 70k price tag. As much as I love Honda if I'm paying 70k for a car I'm gonna probably get something else. That's just how it is.. 🤷♂️
If somebody has actually bought this car for sticker price they don't live in the states!
Did they charge you any markup on the car? Would love to look at one but all the dealers around here are charging $10k markups!!!
I have a 2008 335i with some suspension, then on top of that car I bought a 2018 Civic Type R that I drove for 2 years before trading it in for a 2016 F80 M3 and I must say (without driving an E46 or any other legendary BMW chassis) that the CTR is the best planted steering, suspension and chassis I've ever driven, my only reason to go for the F80 was the GOAT engine and RWD car that combined with decent chassis and great BMW setup makes driving a little more fun...the CTR is so on the edge of cars that are 2x or 3x the price is unreal, I wish with all my heart to be financially able to buy an FL5 along my M3 and have both because that is the real dream, not one or the other......both
Very nice car. I 'm a honda driver also. Just new , i have the civic 1.0 turbo 126 hp. Automatic
It is not a race car like yours but i'm satisvid with it. It drives very smooth. Good suspensions, ....
Greetz from belgium ( europ )
Turbos are just perfect for daily commutes. I feel like this would be perfect with a sleeper disguise. Badge delete spoiler delete. Just the perfect under the radar commuter.
In Toronto, Canada "USED" are selling for $75k. LoL
For $75k i can get Mach1, 392 Challenger, M240i XD, Supra, Z400, base Cayman etc. All cars that are offer much more.
Hey Tedward, would be awesome if you could find a 11th gen civic sport hatchback with the 6MT option and review it!
I like that the car grew up a little bit. The older body style was way too out there for me. This looks more put together. I’m cringing at the 45k price tag though. That’s just a lot of money. STI’s start around 36k, GTI’s can be had for less, and Golf R’s are in the same ballpark but with AWD. The price point for this car should have been around 39k. I think it would have placed it just right to put a dent in the competition.
I sell New Hondas in Texas, these are amazing cars. Every one of my customers loves the Honda and long lasting vehicle and Fun to Drive. I Have a 2000 Accord V6 with 125k miles on it 🎉🎉🎉
Beautiful 😍 I love the updates in the type R