Good luck with that stuff. I posted my experience with Rim Guard on GTT. Basically it corroded the valve stem cores on my 2720 to the point that when I went to check the tire pressure they would not reseal and the tires went flat. To add insult to injury the cores were so corroded with hardened brown beet juice that they broke off when I tried to remove them. I have photos of the valve cores if you are interested. My other two tires were filled with windshield washer fluid at the same time and I've had no issues with those valve stem cores. I won't be using beet juice again any time soon.
@@TractorTimewithTim No, the 2720 came with metal valve stems. It's not the valve stem body that is the issue. It is the valve stem CORE. Which, would be the same in both a metal and rubber valve stem body. Over time, beet juice deposits hardened on the rubber gasket and spring assembly of the core and caused it to no longer have spring tension. It also hardened on the rubber gasket of the core making it not able to hold air. This process took about 5 years. Everything was fine until one day I checked the air pressure in my tires. Once the core nipple was depressed by the air pressure gauge it was not able to reseal due to the hardened beet juice deposits and the tire went flat. The valve stem core broke off while trying to remove it because beet juice residue had also hardened in the internal threads of the valve stem body making it so the core was very hard to turn inside the valve stem body. Believe me, the whole experience was a big surprise to me.
I love the comments about college. I was a mechanic for 20 years and if you are willing to work, you can make an excellent living without a degree... and not have the student debt.
ive had it in my tractors for about 3 years been very pleased... i can pick up 2 1000lb round bales and not even feel it in the read end with no 3pt counter weight ... before i was getting air with the rears all the time...
A friends outdoor power equipment shop here in Ontario used RV antifreeze for ballast In lawn and garden tractors. It’s non corrosive and if you puncture a tire and the fluid leaks out it won’t kill your lawn. We use beet juice and mix it with salt to make a slurry and put it in tank trucks. When a winter storm is comming we spread the slurry on our roads and the snow and ice doesn’t stick. This way we don’t have to use as much salt.
Tim great video on how they put it in the tires ! I was going to put it in my tires too last fall but then mom got sick and never got to do it ! i was going to do rim guard and had been talking to Bro-Tek about put 2" spacers on the Kioti but with here passing it will have to wait !!! have a great weekend ! Kioti Curt :-)
I just filled my 1023e rear tires yesterday evening using a drill pump and four 5-gallon buckets of Rim Guard. Went really smoothly. I filled up to the 11 o'clock position so I'd have a little air space at the 12 o'clock position to check air pressure with a regular air gauge. Took 18 gallons total.
This is one area where a 2025r is an advantage, the larger rear tires take 3x rim guard and end up weighing 350lbs. On the downside the new R3 radials are less puncture resistant and little hole makes a big sticky mess. I keep an old school tire repair tool with gooey strips in the toolbox.
Yes using the grapple to remove an old goat shed I got a nail through the sidewall. Getting a 350lb wheel/tire full of rim guard off the tractor and in for repair (assuming someone would do it) is a major logistics problem for a mere mortal like me. My dealer suggested the tire puncture kit and it’s holding up well after six months.
Shop is clean, organized and HP gas bottles chained upright. Technician neat uniform , knowledgeable and pleasant. This place is a keeper. Some will say the neatness doesn't matter but even someone like Andrew Camarata is organized and keeps the tripping hazards off the floor. As always interesting video. Thanks [ by the way I read a Katriel blog where she said " Christ_y's daughter so I finally know for sure how to spell the finance committee's name] Take care and thanks again.
As you fill the tires with the beet juice how does the air pressure that builds up due to the reduction of volume in the tire as it is filled bleed off? It almost sounded like the pump had a bleed off cycle in between each pump cycle? Is that how it works?
When I bought my tractor back in 2006 the dealer wanted to fill the tires with calcium chloride said I needed ballast I told him no way stuff is corrosive and don't want to have to put new rims on in 5 years. He sold me some cast iron weight to hang on the tractor really have not used them at all. Heck when I sit on the tractor I have 300lbs of ballast for free LOL.
I hear ya, we both are self ballasting lol I did buy wheel weights and rear weights for my 3046 as I figured I needed it for snowblowing, but I did the first half of last winter without it as I had been mowing prior and didn't get around to installing it until around January but honestly didn't see much difference. If I did more loader work I probably would appreciate it a lot more.
My valve stem broke off the other day and I lost some of my liquid ballast (1025R rear tire). I'm not sure how much I lost but I can hear it sloshing around in the tire. I weighed it and it weighed 122 lbs. Anybody know how much it should weigh with liquid ballst?
I have to do something. I have a big ballast box but it don't work right with loader the front end gets light but have to have a lot of weight I just used it to move concrete in the loader bucket I made a shut for the bucket to pout concrete.
In another UT video, I saw where the valve stem and core itself needs to be changed to a "air-liquid" valve type vs the "air only type that is standard with most tractors. Evidently the components in the replacement are more compatible with RimGuard and longer lasting. Ever heard this?
Just loaded my 3033R with washer fluid. 39 gals/tire. 300lbs per side. Couldn’t find a rim guard dealer near me. Rim guard would have added another 120lbs per side. Oh well. I noticed you had rubber valve stems and I heard rim guard eats away at the rubber valve stems though. Hopefully you’re not having any issues.
Hey tim, after watching nearly all your videos, i purchased a 2019 1025r, love it. however after watching this beet juice video, i took mine in to the dealer to have mine filled. i have the mauser cab so i figured i had enough ballast but i dont. the dealer said they could barely fit 8 gallons in each tire, yet in the video you and the shop worker mention 10 gallons. i went to the rim guard website and sure enough it says only 8 gallons. any ideas, or is it just close enough? i just hope the -35 temp rating is enough, i live in west yellowstone where we can hit -50 easy.
I just bought a 2025r and have scheduled to have the beet juice ballast in the tires. Not sure if it will be enough for the hilly terrain here in Western PA. Have you dealt with wheel spacers at all?
Had my tires filled when I bought my tractor. A while back I was working along side a guy with only air in his tires. His machine seemed a LOT less stable. I've still had a rear wheel come off the ground a time or two, but for the most part my machine sticks to the ground.
We're can I order some to fill my own tires from I had no luck finding anywhere to order it from real don't want to refill mine with windshield washer fluid again
I literally just got done having beet juice put in my rear tires on my 1025R and I can tell u ppl that it woeks wonders and makes one heck of a difference in all aspects of tractor function !! Tires weigh 51 lbs empty but 140 lbs with 8 gallons in each tire. The best $75 spent on ballast ever !!
We discussed extensively. I had heard the same thing. I called Rimguard to get their input. They say they have no evidence that rubber valve stems are a problem. So, they wanted me to leave them. If I have issues, I will let them (and our viewers) know.
Thanks Tim been watching your channel in northern Wisconsin from the start. You are the main reason why I bought my 1025r a little over a year ago. Your videos gave me a lot of knowledge about the tractor before I spent the money. Thanks again. Would love to meet you guys someday.
I bought a brand new 2019 1025r in February. $10,999 plus tax. Came with 120r loader, 59" bucket and 60" rear blade. Was a winter special. What a steal! Also came with rim guard tire ballast included. I love my 1025r. The rim guard makes it a mountain goat, and it has great traction. For my 15 acres, my 1025r is perfect. I bought it to upgrade from my x300 which has 901 hours with no problems. The original k46 is still running strong. i I have 52 hours on my 1025r as of today, and most of it is from mowing 10 acres every few weeks. I also bought a 60" autoconnect mower deck used, in April, only for $800, and the dealer was so nice, that he included a new autoconnect pto. Do you think I got a good deal on the tractor? Your channel is amazing, truly one of my favorites. Thanks, Dan
Tractor are so cheap in usa. Im from denmark and a tractor like yours will set you back atleast 20000 dollars plus tax... Congrats on your tractor. Greetings from denmark.
Tim, does the extra weight cause any issues with using the 1025r for mowing? Just wondering if, with all the rain we've had, you see any ruts or damage to your yard.
Well, with all the rain we’ve had, I make ruts when I walk on the yard! I really don’t notice any difference. In other words, I can’t tell that the ruts are worse with fluid. I had fluid (and wheel weights) on the old Johnny. ...mowed for 4 years with it at our old house.
Hi Tim, I just recently purchased a John Deere 2025R from the dealer. I haven't received it yet. Would you recommend getting the tires loaded with fluid right now? Or wait and see If I really need it? I'm new to the whole tractor life and I'm just not sure if I need to load my tires or not. Thank you
I've filled a few sets of tires now with Winter windsheild washer fluid. works good. Not made just for that purpose obviously but it works and is readily available. I don't know if Rim Guard is something we can get around here or not.
Ha! I'm gonna leave that plastic as long as I can. Why? Because I know it bothers you :-) . Just kidding. ...well, somewhat. My dad always leaves the plastic on ...so...of course, it seems natural to me!
Different places charge differently. Some straight ‘by the gallon’ $4 gal or so. Others are cheaper by the gallon with a ‘per tire’ fee. Anyway, should be less than $100 to have both rears done on a 1025r.
Yes, I recommend for ALL compact and subcompact tractors. Hard to get enough ballast. ...and any extra weight provides stability and extra traction for pulling/pushing.
@@TractorTimewithTim There is my quandary......I will have a bucket/grapple but will mostly be used for grass cutting with a belly mower and R4 tires and was concerned about the extra weight
You won’t notice negatively when cutting grass. At least that is my experience. When it is too wet to cut, you will make ruts. When it is dry enough, you will be fine. ...with or without Rimguard.
@@TractorTimewithTim I run the 1025R on hills both at home and at camp. I hope the rim guard improves the stability. I also have a set of 1.5" wheel spacers on order. Really enjoy the channel.
I asked about beet juice when I had my tires done. The dealer told me that they don't use it anymore because it degrades rubber and makes a mess. The beet juice just decays inside the tire and has a horrible smell. Some people just replace a tire rather than trying to repair a beet juice tire.
We use both calcium chloride and rim guard. Rim Guard is less corrosive not completely non corrosive. Calcium chloride isn't really a problem if your tubes don't leak.
Levi did the fronts. I didn't see the need. 30lbs each side. ...and I have had significant issues with front tire punctures. I think those front tires are not very strong.
In my area, we use RV Antifreeze in lift truck tires. RV Antifreeze is 9.44 lbs per gallon vs 10.65 for beat juice so not much difference, it will not harm animals or the environment if it leaks plus, unlike beat juice, it will not stain, is good to -50F vs -35F for beat juice and you can do it yourself without the equipment shown. Remove stem valve, insert small tube, let gravity do its work. Oh and you can get it anytime for $3/gallon at Fleet Farm or buy 5 get 1 free after the fall rush. I wonder why tractor owners choose beat juice over RV antifreeze?
Tractor Time with Tim thank you for taking time to rely. I will need to grab a jug and look again when I’m at our storage locker, or just weight one. I can tell you I was winterizing the fresh water, Vacuflush, air conditioning and generator systems on my Sea Ray Sundancer boat when I was still in the slip. Loading the jugs from the dock to the boat, I dropped one jug into the water. It sunk so its heavier then water, unlike dropping a jug of gas which will float. I did some Googling, trying to find something I could link to and verify my 9.44 lbs per gallon memory and found conflicting information. Using your number of 8.4 vs 10.64 x 20 gallons for a 1025r’s tires, we are talking about a 45 pound difference. I guess that may be significant, or not, depending on how close someone is pushing it. Even 8.4 lbs per gallon x 20 gallons ads 168# at $60 or under for a Do-it-yourself person. Again, I thank you for taking the time to reply Tim.
@@FishFind3000 i was told by my tire store here that it would not eat metal my tires are tubed they said that it would be ok and cheaper than rim guard with me just doing tillage with small plow and tiller with no loader that i should be just fine and as of right now it has done perfect for me
I bought a used tractor and the previous owner had calcium in the tires and I didn’t know it, it ruined my air pressure gauge, I had to pull the pressure gauge apart to clean it flush it out. Another option would be to use waste or new antifreeze, which would also be very useful in a lawn roller. Whatever liquid you use it will wind up in your pressure gauge when you check the TP. Even when the valve stem is at 12 o’clock
Tractor Time with Tim In the tire is better than how some people dispose waste antifreeze. Also RV antifreeze is safe, it’s used in boat engines and is non toxic.
I'm gonna have to investigate that stuff. We have calcium fluid in our tractor tires. Love the extra weight but do hate the corrosive nature of the stuff.
I wanna get my 13.6 x 36 tires loaded but $300 for chloride and a lot more for rim guard and the extra wieght to pull when hauling tractor when im 22k going down the road and i dont do much heavy work. 1 pair wheel wieghts current 1 more eventually will give me 480 lbs total
@@TractorTimewithTim $120ish a pair for about 200 lbs vs $300 for 500 lbs in each tire of chloride and not sure on rim gaurd price but more for sure. The wheel wieghts i double stack on left for plowing but normal single on each side. Get another pair then ill do 3 left 1right as the first one is a 2 person job. 1 to hold the bolts from falling out the rim and the other picking up the wieght
Well, Rimguard should be less than the $0.60/lb you have stated for calcium. $3-4/gal would be roughly $0.30/lb. much cheaper than the $1/lb for cast weights.
@@TractorTimewithTim big thing is hauling my tractor when im grossing 22k all ready and its a 250 mile round trip that i take pulling some nice hills in northern michigan
Fluid does not expand/contract. Adding air is trivial...but it can ‘shoot back’ some of the fluid. Always have valve stem at the top when checking / adding air.
Tim another thing about filled tires it helps prevent the rim from rusting and having condensation to cause the rust and having a more consistent tire pressure
In Oklahoma they have a class in Middle and High School called Technology Education which teaches the integration of academics and vocational skills. It starts in middle school and then by the time they are juniors and seniors they are able to spend half a day in high school then the other half day at either collage prep or Vocational school (Votech). They believe as you do that collage is not for everyone.
I tell you what though, if you blow a tire, you have a big sticky mess on your hands lol. Had that happen this winter. 50+ gallons all over the tractor and the ground.
Beet juice is what they are using here now. Much better than the calcium chloride that they used to use. I'm waiting for the neighbor to add beet juice to his tires that way the tire company can come and fill the tires in both our tractors and we can lower the cost by splitting the delivery fee.
Found it! I figured you had to have something. Found a dealer nearby. Now to get the tires done on my Jr TTWT X585
Good luck with that stuff. I posted my experience with Rim Guard on GTT. Basically it corroded the valve stem cores on my 2720 to the point that when I went to check the tire pressure they would not reseal and the tires went flat. To add insult to injury the cores were so corroded with hardened brown beet juice that they broke off when I tried to remove them. I have photos of the valve cores if you are interested. My other two tires were filled with windshield washer fluid at the same time and I've had no issues with those valve stem cores. I won't be using beet juice again any time soon.
Rubber valve stems on your Rimguard tractor?
@@TractorTimewithTim No, the 2720 came with metal valve stems. It's not the valve stem body that is the issue. It is the valve stem CORE. Which, would be the same in both a metal and rubber valve stem body. Over time, beet juice deposits hardened on the rubber gasket and spring assembly of the core and caused it to no longer have spring tension. It also hardened on the rubber gasket of the core making it not able to hold air. This process took about 5 years. Everything was fine until one day I checked the air pressure in my tires. Once the core nipple was depressed by the air pressure gauge it was not able to reseal due to the hardened beet juice deposits and the tire went flat. The valve stem core broke off while trying to remove it because beet juice residue had also hardened in the internal threads of the valve stem body making it so the core was very hard to turn inside the valve stem body. Believe me, the whole experience was a big surprise to me.
I love the comments about college. I was a mechanic for 20 years and if you are willing to work, you can make an excellent living without a degree... and not have the student debt.
ive had it in my tractors for about 3 years been very pleased... i can pick up 2 1000lb round bales and not even feel it in the read end with no 3pt counter weight ... before i was getting air with the rears all the time...
Nice video tim and a good solution for extra rear ballast,its cheaper than wheel weights 👍👍
A friends outdoor power equipment shop here in Ontario used RV antifreeze for ballast In lawn and garden tractors. It’s non corrosive and if you puncture a tire and the fluid leaks out it won’t kill your lawn. We use beet juice and mix it with salt to make a slurry and put it in tank trucks. When a winter storm is comming we spread the slurry on our roads and the snow and ice doesn’t stick. This way we don’t have to use as much salt.
Tim great video on how they put it in the tires ! I was going to put it in my tires too last fall but then mom got sick and never got to do it ! i was going to do rim guard and had been talking to Bro-Tek about put 2" spacers on the Kioti but with here passing it will have to wait !!! have a great weekend ! Kioti Curt :-)
Good to have you back, Curt. Sorry again about your mother!
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks again Tim ! Hope you dad is doing good !
Still kicking!
Good video. Was interesting seeing how they fill the tires.
I just filled my 1023e rear tires yesterday evening using a drill pump and four 5-gallon buckets of Rim Guard. Went really smoothly. I filled up to the 11 o'clock position so I'd have a little air space at the 12 o'clock position to check air pressure with a regular air gauge. Took 18 gallons total.
This is one area where a 2025r is an advantage, the larger rear tires take 3x rim guard and end up weighing 350lbs. On the downside the new R3 radials are less puncture resistant and little hole makes a big sticky mess. I keep an old school tire repair tool with gooey strips in the toolbox.
So you have punctured your 2025r R3 Radials?
Yes using the grapple to remove an old goat shed I got a nail through the sidewall. Getting a 350lb wheel/tire full of rim guard off the tractor and in for repair (assuming someone would do it) is a major logistics problem for a mere mortal like me. My dealer suggested the tire puncture kit and it’s holding up well after six months.
What do you air the tires to after loaded?
Oops, you just covered my question. 20 psi.
Shop is clean, organized and HP gas bottles chained upright. Technician neat uniform , knowledgeable and pleasant. This place is a keeper. Some will say the neatness doesn't matter but even someone like Andrew Camarata is organized and keeps the tripping hazards off the floor. As always interesting video. Thanks [ by the way I read a Katriel blog where she said " Christ_y's daughter so I finally know for sure how to spell the finance committee's name] Take care and thanks again.
They were outside.
Any issues with spoilage or fermentation or excess pressure?
Here in the deep South, no dealer offers Rim Guard. Since we seldom get long-term freezing, we just use water.
Nice video, I have Rim Guard in mine too, I also lower my Heavy Hitch weights to keep the center of gravity low.
Im enjoing your videos. They are so chill and relaxing😊
Thanks for watching, and thanks for your comment!
As you fill the tires with the beet juice how does the air pressure that builds up due to the reduction of volume in the tire as it is filled bleed off? It almost sounded like the pump had a bleed off cycle in between each pump cycle? Is that how it works?
This is fascinating! Thanks for sharing! Why is it called Ballast?
Ah, because it is weight to hold down the tractor.
I am currently running washer fluid for ballast in my CK2610. Works very well.
You'll like wheel ballast Tim.
its not that nice if it leaks all over your crops :) beet juice is okay
@@nekoroms Don't have croos, just some grass and wooded 5 acre.
When I bought my tractor back in 2006 the dealer wanted to fill the tires with calcium chloride said I needed ballast I told him no way stuff is corrosive and don't want to have to put new rims on in 5 years. He sold me some cast iron weight to hang on the tractor really have not used them at all. Heck when I sit on the tractor I have 300lbs of ballast for free LOL.
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I hear ya, we both are self ballasting lol I did buy wheel weights and rear weights for my 3046 as I figured I needed it for snowblowing, but I did the first half of last winter without it as I had been mowing prior and didn't get around to installing it until around January but honestly didn't see much difference. If I did more loader work I probably would appreciate it a lot more.
Important for loader, not so much for more setups
How would you go about changing a tire that has been filled if needed?
any benefit to adding Rim Guard to the 1025R front tires, while I'm at it???
My valve stem broke off the other day and I lost some of my liquid ballast (1025R rear tire). I'm not sure how much I lost but I can hear it sloshing around in the tire. I weighed it and it weighed 122 lbs. Anybody know how much it should weigh with liquid ballst?
I have to do something. I have a big ballast box but it don't work right with loader the front end gets light but have to have a lot of weight I just used it to move concrete in the loader bucket I made a shut for the bucket to pout concrete.
I love your Channel and the Very Informative Episodes you Provide
Thanks for watching!
Just had rim guard added to my rear tires. Tremendous difference, for the better.
Just today? Did this episode encourage you to do it?
@@TractorTimewithTim actually had it done week before seeing this.
Have kioti ck2510 , needed better stability.
Hey tractor time with Tim how do I go about finding a tire shop that puts ramguard in my tractor tires for my 2025r
rimguardsolutions.com/ttwt
In another UT video, I saw where the valve stem and core itself needs to be changed to a "air-liquid" valve type vs the "air only type that is standard with most tractors. Evidently the components in the replacement are more compatible with RimGuard and longer lasting. Ever heard this?
We discussed this with a tire expert in our more recent Rimguard video. He said no need...and explained why, but I have forgotten. Check it out.
We grow a lot of sugar beets in my little corner of Montana. We feed beet pulp to our cattle as well.
Just loaded my 3033R with washer fluid. 39 gals/tire. 300lbs per side.
Couldn’t find a rim guard dealer near me. Rim guard would have added another 120lbs per side. Oh well.
I noticed you had rubber valve stems and I heard rim guard eats away at the rubber valve stems though. Hopefully you’re not having any issues.
Hey tim, after watching nearly all your videos, i purchased a 2019 1025r, love it. however after watching this beet juice video, i took mine in to the dealer to have mine filled. i have the mauser cab so i figured i had enough ballast but i dont. the dealer said they could barely fit 8 gallons in each tire, yet in the video you and the shop worker mention 10 gallons. i went to the rim guard website and sure enough it says only 8 gallons. any ideas, or is it just close enough? i just hope the -35 temp rating is enough, i live in west yellowstone where we can hit -50 easy.
Tim, curious why you didn't do the front tires? I've been considering doing mine for a little extra weight out front with the snow blade.
Only 30lns each tire, and I have had significant issue with punctures in those tires.
I just bought a 2025r and have scheduled to have the beet juice ballast in the tires. Not sure if it will be enough for the hilly terrain here in Western PA. Have you dealt with wheel spacers at all?
Levi on greentractortalk.com has spacers. He has the biggest hills of anyone I know with a 1026r. Lots of photos of his spacer install
Had my tires filled when I bought my tractor. A while back I was working along side a guy with only air in his tires. His machine seemed a LOT less stable. I've still had a rear wheel come off the ground a time or two, but for the most part my machine sticks to the ground.
Were valve stems replaced (per rim guard recommendations)
They were not. Lots of discussion on this that day. In fact, I was on the phone with Rimguard during a portion of the fill discussing this topic.
Keep us updated. I think they may be over cautious. Good luck 👍
Gonna be nice with the extra weight 👌
How much does it cost to fill with Rim Gard Tim?
We're can I order some to fill my own tires from I had no luck finding anywhere to order it from real don't want to refill mine with windshield washer fluid again
contact them via rimguardsolutions.com/ttwt they might have it available in 5 gal buckets. They had been talking about this approach.
I literally just got done having beet juice put in my rear tires on my 1025R and I can tell u ppl that it woeks wonders and makes one heck of a difference in all aspects of tractor function !! Tires weigh 51 lbs empty but 140 lbs with 8 gallons in each tire. The best $75 spent on ballast ever !!
Yep! Congratulations!
I heard that if you put ballast in your tires you should take out the rubber valve stems and put it the metal ones. Did they say anything about that?
We discussed extensively. I had heard the same thing. I called Rimguard to get their input. They say they have no evidence that rubber valve stems are a problem. So, they wanted me to leave them. If I have issues, I will let them (and our viewers) know.
Thanks Tim been watching your channel in northern Wisconsin from the start. You are the main reason why I bought my 1025r a little over a year ago. Your videos gave me a lot of knowledge about the tractor before I spent the money. Thanks again. Would love to meet you guys someday.
I bought a brand new 2019 1025r in February. $10,999 plus tax. Came with 120r loader, 59" bucket and 60" rear blade. Was a winter special. What a steal! Also came with rim guard tire ballast included. I love my 1025r. The rim guard makes it a mountain goat, and it has great traction. For my 15 acres, my 1025r is perfect. I bought it to upgrade from my x300 which has 901 hours with no problems. The original k46 is still running strong. i I have 52 hours on my 1025r as of today, and most of it is from mowing 10 acres every few weeks. I also bought a 60" autoconnect mower deck used, in April, only for $800, and the dealer was so nice, that he included a new autoconnect pto. Do you think I got a good deal on the tractor? Your channel is amazing, truly one of my favorites.
Thanks, Dan
Tractor are so cheap in usa. Im from denmark and a tractor like yours will set you back atleast 20000 dollars plus tax...
Congrats on your tractor.
Greetings from denmark.
@@Marc006006 mine wouldve been 17,000 but they had a clearance winter special for 2 days only for in stock tractors. I got about 6000 off.
@@danielcrown1084 thats a nice offer!
Tim, does the extra weight cause any issues with using the 1025r for mowing? Just wondering if, with all the rain we've had, you see any ruts or damage to your yard.
Well, with all the rain we’ve had, I make ruts when I walk on the yard!
I really don’t notice any difference. In other words, I can’t tell that the ruts are worse with fluid. I had fluid (and wheel weights) on the old Johnny. ...mowed for 4 years with it at our old house.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thank you, Tim! I had forgotten about the wheel weights on the old Johnny.
Hi Tim, I just recently purchased a John Deere 2025R from the dealer. I haven't received it yet. Would you recommend getting the tires loaded with fluid right now? Or wait and see If I really need it? I'm new to the whole tractor life and I'm just not sure if I need to load my tires or not. Thank you
Fill em!
@@TractorTimewithTim Yes Sir!
I've filled a few sets of tires now with Winter windsheild washer fluid. works good. Not made just for that purpose obviously but it works and is readily available. I don't know if Rim Guard is something we can get around here or not.
Great video!
Did the Service Technician offer to remove the plastic off the seat for you?
Ha! I'm gonna leave that plastic as long as I can. Why? Because I know it bothers you :-) . Just kidding. ...well, somewhat. My dad always leaves the plastic on ...so...of course, it seems natural to me!
Sounds like a perfect reason to me!
Reminds me of Minnie Pearl.
So funny
Was going to say you needed extra rear ballast but you "Beet" me to it. That stuff is a bit funky if you get it on you.
I remember those commercials, and yes I’m old.
I got this in my BX and man it adds some serious weight, I took my tires off and wasn't expecting the weight.
Ha! Yea, you gotta be ready when you take those tires off!!!
I foam filled the tires. 1023e now they are about 200# per tire.
Great job enjoyed that!!!
What's the cost per tire on this thanks Tim 🇺🇸🚜 🚜
They sell it per gallon usually. Price varies by dealer.
Will it freeze in cold weather ?
-35F
What happens when it leaks out?
With reducing the amount of compressable air, is the ride quality affected at all?
Tom Cianci no the acting pressure is still the same.
It works very well.
Brings value up when reselling also
Tim,
What is the cost for the two tires?
Bill
Depends on the dealer, but you should be able to get both done for less than $100
Tim,
Thanks. My nearest local dealer wants me to just bring the tires.
Bill
How much does it cost to fill both tires?
Varies...but should be safe to say "less than $100"
Tim, I do remember the part of a balanced diet. some still do say it
Thanks Phil ...at least someone is sticking with me :-)
So if my fuzzy math is correct, it was only about $30ish per tire to fill it with beet juice. Is that correct?
Just say ‘less than $100’ for the pair and you would be safe. Each dealer prices slightly differently.
Does Rim Guard shorten the life of the hydrostatic transmission?....cause it to overheat?....void warranty?
No, no, and No. shouldn’t have any negative impacts.
how much did it cost.?
Different places charge differently. Some straight ‘by the gallon’ $4 gal or so. Others are cheaper by the gallon with a ‘per tire’ fee.
Anyway, should be less than $100 to have both rears done on a 1025r.
@@TractorTimewithTim thanks....I have purchased a Kubota B3350 and was wondering if it was something I needed.
Yes, I recommend for ALL compact and subcompact tractors. Hard to get enough ballast. ...and any extra weight provides stability and extra traction for pulling/pushing.
@@TractorTimewithTim There is my quandary......I will have a bucket/grapple but will mostly be used for grass cutting with a belly mower and R4 tires and was concerned about the extra weight
You won’t notice negatively when cutting grass. At least that is my experience. When it is too wet to cut, you will make ruts. When it is dry enough, you will be fine. ...with or without Rimguard.
Got my tires filled with rim guard today. Wish I weighed them before. They now weigh 200-210 each.
You’ll love it!
@@TractorTimewithTim I run the 1025R on hills both at home and at camp. I hope the rim guard improves the stability. I also have a set of 1.5" wheel spacers on order. Really enjoy the channel.
Reynolds in muncie is where i got my 2038r really good place and good people
I asked about beet juice when I had my tires done. The dealer told me that they don't use it anymore because it degrades rubber and makes a mess. The beet juice just decays inside the tire and has a horrible smell. Some people just replace a tire rather than trying to repair a beet juice tire.
Thanks, good informative video !
Beet juice like we call molasses for mixed with kow feed??
It's not molasses. It's a byproduct of sugar production from sugar beets.
@@lowercherty that's what molasses is.... made from suicker beets..
Good video Tim beet juice learn something every day thanks Tim
Did you go to Reynolds
How is beat juice not corrosive?
Contact them to discuss. I am not a chemist, can’t provide a good technical answer.
We use both calcium chloride and rim guard. Rim Guard is less corrosive not completely non corrosive. Calcium chloride isn't really a problem if your tubes don't leak.
Truly a no brainer. Any compact tractor is useless without ballast. Weight is work!
I wish beet juice was available locally. Actually I wish there was a DIY kit. Why didn't you do fronts too?
Levi did the fronts. I didn't see the need. 30lbs each side. ...and I have had significant issues with front tire punctures. I think those front tires are not very strong.
im using windshield washer in my tires as ballast.
In my area, we use RV Antifreeze in lift truck tires. RV Antifreeze is 9.44 lbs per gallon vs 10.65 for beat juice so not much difference, it will not harm animals or the environment if it leaks plus, unlike beat juice, it will not stain, is good to -50F vs -35F for beat juice and you can do it yourself without the equipment shown. Remove stem valve, insert small tube, let gravity do its work. Oh and you can get it anytime for $3/gallon at Fleet Farm or buy 5 get 1 free after the fall rush. I wonder why tractor owners choose beat juice over RV antifreeze?
My search showed 8.4 lb/gal for rv antifreeze.
Tractor Time with Tim thank you for taking time to rely. I will need to grab a jug and look again when I’m at our storage locker, or just weight one. I can tell you I was winterizing the fresh water, Vacuflush, air conditioning and generator systems on my Sea Ray Sundancer boat when I was still in the slip. Loading the jugs from the dock to the boat, I dropped one jug into the water. It sunk so its heavier then water, unlike dropping a jug of gas which will float. I did some Googling, trying to find something I could link to and verify my 9.44 lbs per gallon memory and found conflicting information. Using your number of 8.4 vs 10.64 x 20 gallons for a 1025r’s tires, we are talking about a 45 pound difference. I guess that may be significant, or not, depending on how close someone is pushing it. Even 8.4 lbs per gallon x 20 gallons ads 168# at $60 or under for a Do-it-yourself person. Again, I thank you for taking the time to reply Tim.
A bit late, but the cast iron wheel weights with all three on one tire maybe sticks out 2 or 3 inches.
We use beet juice in our area for the roads in winter to prevent freezing and black ice.
not sure what the difference in weight is but i use windshield washer fluid in the tiers on my tractor and protected to about -20 i think it is
my friend did the same thing ...... i wonder what the difference is pro's vs con's ........
I wonder if it will eat the metal or not. I know it has alcohol in it or something similar for freezing resistance.
It is significantly lighter than Rimguard, and environmentally unfriendly. Check out the chart in the video. (Or on the Rimguard site)
@@FishFind3000 i was told by my tire store here that it would not eat metal my tires are tubed they said that it would be ok and cheaper than rim guard with me just doing tillage with small plow and tiller with no loader that i should be just fine and as of right now it has done perfect for me
Johnny will be happy with his new balanced diet and be stable on his feet!
I bought a used tractor and the previous owner had calcium in the tires and I didn’t know it, it ruined my air pressure gauge, I had to pull the pressure gauge apart to clean it flush it out.
Another option would be to use waste or new antifreeze, which would also be very useful in a lawn roller.
Whatever liquid you use it will wind up in your pressure gauge when you check the TP.
Even when the valve stem is at 12 o’clock
Except antifreeze is not good on the environment either if spilled, etc. Rimguard will not cause harm to people, plants or animals.
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In the tire is better than how some people dispose waste antifreeze.
Also RV antifreeze is safe, it’s used in boat engines and is non toxic.
I'm gonna have to investigate that stuff. We have calcium fluid in our tractor tires. Love the extra weight but do hate the corrosive nature of the stuff.
Yes, I’ve had this in my prior 1025r for years. Surprised big Ag isn’t using it more. Those cast iron weights are crazy expensive!
@@TractorTimewithTim what's the price comparison between the two? I wonder if the calcium cheaper. Farmers are cheap. lol
I think $3-$4 per gallon.
For traction on ice pop a hole in the tire and beet juice will melt ice
I wanna get my 13.6 x 36 tires loaded but $300 for chloride and a lot more for rim guard and the extra wieght to pull when hauling tractor when im 22k going down the road and i dont do much heavy work. 1 pair wheel wieghts current 1 more eventually will give me 480 lbs total
Wheel weights much more expensive, right?
@@TractorTimewithTim $120ish a pair for about 200 lbs vs $300 for 500 lbs in each tire of chloride and not sure on rim gaurd price but more for sure. The wheel wieghts i double stack on left for plowing but normal single on each side. Get another pair then ill do 3 left 1right as the first one is a 2 person job. 1 to hold the bolts from falling out the rim and the other picking up the wieght
Well, Rimguard should be less than the $0.60/lb you have stated for calcium.
$3-4/gal would be roughly $0.30/lb. much cheaper than the $1/lb for cast weights.
@@TractorTimewithTim big thing is hauling my tractor when im grossing 22k all ready and its a 250 mile round trip that i take pulling some nice hills in northern michigan
I have this same issue with Johnny 5. We are very near the 26k CDL cutoff.
I would think a little air would be added as well.
Does the fluid expand and contract like air does with the temp change? How easy is it to add and remove air once filled?
Fluid does not expand/contract. Adding air is trivial...but it can ‘shoot back’ some of the fluid. Always have valve stem at the top when checking / adding air.
Tim another thing about filled tires it helps prevent the rim from rusting and having condensation to cause the rust and having a more consistent tire pressure
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I tell you what though, if you blow a tire, you have a big sticky mess on your hands lol. Had that happen this winter. 50+ gallons all over the tractor and the ground.
Beet juice is what they are using here now. Much better than the calcium chloride that they used to use. I'm waiting for the neighbor to add beet juice to his tires that way the tire company can come and fill the tires in both our tractors and we can lower the cost by splitting the delivery fee.
Anyone else having issue with find a dealer link from rimguardsolutions.com/that?
Jim, it is rimguardsolutions.com/ttwt
Dealer locator link is working for me. ...it takes you to a contact us type form where you can ask directly.
@@TractorTimewithTim it's now working for me thanks. The above comment was an autocorrect typo. "/that"
Just a thought...cheeseburgers would help hold you down too. Great video.
I keep trying that!
Now you can make marks in people's yards when you mow them I guess that'll give you more work cuz then you got to roll the yard.
My Ford 7700 has had 400 pounds of Calcium Chloride in each rear tire since 1980 with no corrosion, just use a tube.
Yep. Our Oliver 1950-T has had calcium in it since 69. However, we have some tractors on the farm with rusted rims. It happens. No use denying it.
Why not pull the wheels off, bring them in. Have the wheel filled on it's back to get it fuller?
Can't fill them all the way must keep a decent air pocket in them for compression and cushion for ride
Nice one: His burden is light, but beet juice in your tires is heavy.
Tim Christi we have been looking at blast sence the F E L was put on now know what all involved
God Bless All
PaK
Yep beet juice isn't corrosive and it will go to pretty cold - minus degree when the sodium chloride will eat up a rim fast.
We’ve had beet juice in our 4720 for a few years now. Much better than calcium.
weight in the tires is better than weights on the tractor. The weight is on the ground and not on the axles.
yep! Also doesn't take up any useful space! Many advantages to fluid filled tires.
Does beet juice freeze?
-35F
Yes Beat Juice!!!
Does this Reynolds dealer have the cafe and irrigation system demonstration outside
Yes.
@@TractorTimewithTim I've been there before for FFA. Kinda jealous of their shop