You couldn't have asked for a better tech to come out and do this! He was perfectly at ease in front of camera. Explaining everything so nicely, not all people are at ease, or willing to talk to you as if nobody was recording!!! Good video Tim!
Great video. I had RimGuard in my 4 series Deere, and It made a huge difference in the capability of the tractor. As you mentioned, I still liked doing heavy loader work with a rear attachment to offload the front axle.
I've been putting off getting Rim Guard in my tractor tires due to the transportation needs to get it to the dealer. Knowing you can get someone to come to your place is a game changer!
I am the only person I know of that uses Rim Guard in the front tires of my 1025 R I find that it helps with keeping them properly inflated. Been doing this for 5 years and the front tires never lose pressure. I don't do it for the weight, only the benefit that I worry less about front tire underinflation.
“It’s what works well for us”... I was thinking that this may not work well for me as you said that Tim. Great video as always... always look forward to them! 😊
A good thing to reiterate as he kind of glossed over it is that once Rim Guard in in there, you have to check the pressure with the valve @ 12 o'clock.
Good work and an interesting video. You converted me on one of your earlier videos to Rimguard and I find this ballast solution to be very effective. As you mentioned, the weight is as low as possible. My first go with Rimguard was on a set of HDAP tires used for plowing snow with a loader mounted blade. I filled the fronts to provide as much steering traction as possible. Seemed to help. Now have Versa Turfs with Rimguard in the rears only. We have some gooey clay and they excel in that stuff.
I had my 3035d filled when I bought it, I like the way it handles loads in the bucket, the only time I’ve drove the tractor without the rim guard was around the lot at the dealership. At around 400 pounds per tire it has to be helpful!!
I do have liquid ballasst in all 8 wheels of my Ventrac. No local beet juice, so I used the ever popular winter concentration winshield washer fluid. Super easy to do since the Ventrac rims have 2 valve stems 180 degrees opposed. 7 gallons eash tire. My slopes are severe and this helps and it is a huge help with the boom arm mower. I tried threading the outer tires of the dual pairs as one normally does and what a royal PIA! Then I wised-up and removed the lugs of the outer wheels to make the changes or to check torque of inner -- that is easy!
HEY! You jinxed me! I got my "J.D." out this afternoon and its ballisted front tire had this little shiney spot with dampness about it. A bee hive frame nail! So I jack that tire off the ground, pull the little cigar box nail, use a drill to enlarge/freshen the hole and a solvent cement sticky rope plug to save the day. No ballast lost. J.D. is a 1983 650 with the big Pillow Diameter turf tires. Great tractor and runs like new.
i put washer fluid in mine myself with a pump. i understand its not as heavy as the beet juice but i got a 55 gallon drum of it for free. it works really good.
Another great and informative video. Your statements on the use or not, especially between lawn only vice loader,etc has help steer me in a better informed direction. Thank You
When we were tractor pulling, we made a plate that bolted to the lug nuts and a pipe welded to it. We then slid 50lb lead discs onto the pipes. We could make a 300lb mini modified tractor, into a 1500lb tractor. We had to do it that way because there were 4 weight classes, 800, 900, 1200 and 1500lb and had to switch weight classes constantly. Cool video Tim.
We are lucky here,straight water works. People will say it will rust the rim, but even if it does, it takes forever. My family has had water in the tires for 50-60 years and the rim hasn't rusted.
Very informative video and thanks for explaining why you didn't put Rim Guard in Vinnie. All these tips help us make better decisions. Jason did a good job explaining too.
Great video Tim. I absolutely love the versa turf tires on my rwd Bolens ht23. Good friend of mine was looking to buy a new compact tractor. He asked me my advise on what to get. I told him easy choice, 1025r, and to check out your videos. He just took delivery of his new johnny. He loves it. I told him to see if he could get the versa turf tires when he was ordering it, but they told him they were not an option.
Thanks for responding back I asked tractor Mike the same thing I didn't get a response but I like the way that I asked the question better than the way that I did to you. Maybe that would have gotten the wheels turning in a different direction you might say no pun intended. Sorry for it seeming like I was being a smart tail.
I'm still a believer in the front being filled Tim. Next time I mow I'm going to add weights to the front too and see how that goes. I need the front to be planted as much as possible just like the rear. I'm noticing it even more now that I have the Terra Trac tires on.
Anyone in Ontario, Canada: There is a dealer in Ingersoll that has it. I got mine done there. The fill process was knock the tire off the rim, and pour it in the side. We didn't use the valve stem. This was on a Massey GC-1720.
I recommend greasing the valve stem external threads before putting the cap back on. Otherwise, the Rimguard can sort of glue the cap to the stem. Never thought to check valve stem caps for rubber grommets. Cheers.
@@Dan-oz4qb Amazon product info uses different language: Airtight Rubber O-Ring Seal - These cap tire valves provide an enhanced seal to help prevent air leakage and to properly keep out dust, dirt, grime and road debris.
@@Formulabruce If you don't grease, then trying to get the cap off can break the stem. Which creates an expensive puddle in the driveway. Which is why I changed to another product for refill.
As soon as i heard you got a 5 series tractor that saying at the end of the vid is exactly what came to my mind. Lol. Johnny 5 is alive no dissassemble! Lol.
TY, nice video. I filled up my air pig that I pressurized and was filed with winter washer fluid then transferred that into the rear tires on my mower, it added 62 lbs per tire. This method is best because filled tires and wheel weights don' t add any weight to the wheel bearings load the way rear hanging weights do.
WOW over 700 lbs/tire on the first tractor, that tire didn't look all that big. Because of a flat tire a couple years ago I have Rim Gard in one and Ballast Star in other. Good informational video with excellent narration.
How much does the rim guard expand or contract with temperature? I know air will, and it will do a lot. Does the rim guard help prevent the tires airing down when it gets cold?
@@TractorTimewithTim fluids are much less susceptible to volume & pressure fluctuation due to temperature than gasses are. Rimguard also has a much lower freeze point (-35) than water due to the sugar solution dissolved in it, but, because it is water-based, when it does freeze, it will expand like water does and can cause issues. lots of physics involved, but, with the smaller air volume left in the tire and the majority of the fluid being less dynamic, you will not notice much difference between a 110 degree day and a -30 degree day.
All 4 of my 2032r tires are filled. It really has made a big difference. Highly recommended. The only problem is if you drive down the road at a high speed, you can feel it sloshing around and makes it bumpy.
I think you may need more fluid. From what I read, if you are planning to run at higher speeds, you want to fill above the rim (valve stem). This will help prevent sloshing, but will make a rougher ride as liquid doesn't compress like air. Another reason to use R4's rather than radial - you loose the flex a radial would provide. So cheaper and once filled not much different in flex/ride quality. BTW: this is what I'm hearing "on the street", so maybe Tim could chime in?
I have a JD 4100 that I had fluid put in all four tires when new. I recently replaced the front tires and did not add fluid. What a difference. The front tires will not turn on hills and only scoot forward when turned sharply. I AM INSTALLING FLUID NEXT WEEK before I get in trouble.
On garden tractors filling steer tires helps even if you only add 20lbs per tire every little bit helps with a front snowblower that sits on the ground in operation since they like to go straight when you loose the added steer tire traction from the snowblowers weight as soon as the blower is lowered to the ground (I run tri and quad Rib steer tires on my garden tractors in16x6. 50-8) and my 23x10.50-12 v bar rear tires both front and rear loaded to 80%... My steer tires were factory 2ply on all my machines but I upgraded to 4or 6ply (depending on which tractor tire was installed).
Interesting, I heard of people around here putting wind shield antifreeze fluid in their rear tires for weight but never a specific use product. Check your tractor with the forks attached at 20:10 of this video. Looks like your radiator is packed with debris. Best Regards, Jay
Back in 2006 when I bought my tractor they wanted to fill my tires with calcium chloride. I told the the dealer no. As I knew it would rot the rims I have gotten by without weight in the tires as it does double duty as a lawn tractor and garden duty. The only time I notice the lack of weight is using the plow. If using the bucket for heavy lifting I will hang the tiller off the back as it is heavy and behind the rear axles like Tim mentioned for weight and taking some load off the front. Besides I have free ballast every time I sit in the seat LOL.
I feel like I read in the manual not to load front tires with liquid balast. I just loaded my rears with ww fluid and it cost about $45 to get it done for me. I used the jack method to get it done. What do they charge to fill the 1025 tire?
Watching this again, tomorrow morning the tire service is coming out to such out calcium and put a new tube and rim guard in our Oliver 550 tires tomorrow morning. We went to fill them up, they were low, and the tubes broke, on both sides.
Advantage of living in Florida, we just fill tractor tires up with a garden hose. You just have to keep letting the air out to prevent over-pressurizing the tire. Haven't had time to do my new 1023E.
Well done info on the Rim Guard, and the alternative installation of it on site, instead of taking the tractor to dealer. Just curious as if tire pressure changes more in extreme (summer vs. winter) temperatures? Nice job Tim and Christie, and blessings to you.
I'd assume the pressure would change less since there's much less air in the tire. Or maybe the smaller volume of air makes it more sensitive to temperature change? Great question!
No effect; because the weight is all going direct to the ground. If the ballast weight were attached to the frame of the tractor, it would be resting on the bearings and you would want to keep an eye on how much the axle is rated for vs how much you have on it.
Effectively, in automotive terms, sprung vs. unsprung weight (the reactors don't have springs but...). What does have an effect is moving the tires in/out as tim mentioned, but probably not enough affect to cause premature wear unless MAYBE one was ALWAYS carrying the max load off the ground on the 3 pt. hitch and the tires were spaced out as far as poss.
Yep. It's the same as people that say "chimley" for chimney. Others will say things like "chester drawers" for chest of drawers. "Supposebly" for supposedly, along with the normal "their/there/they're" and "or/are," etc. Drives me nuts.
I have a subcompact tractor that i use in the summer months for mowing. Do you recommend rim guard if I use the tractor to mow? My yard is mainly flat. I do use the tractor for snow removal in the winter.
I do, yes. It will improve the ride (less vertical ‘hopping’). The only possible time you will have negative issues is very early in spring when it is muddy. Even then, with subcompact, I don’t see issues. Overall, you will have a ‘stronger’ feeling tractor with the extra weight.
Thank you for the quick response! I am going to set up an appointment and get the tires filled with Rim Guard. Do you recommend changing the valve stem out or keeping the rubber? I know your video said the rim guard doesn't hurt the rubber valve stem, but I wanted to ask now that some time has passed.
I liked the front tires on my Ford 2000 filled with ballast because the front end was so light when I lifted the bush hog and drove on a bumpy road I had better control. The Ford 5000 had no issues. But all my tractors had the rear tires filled.
The rimguard solution is a great product in and of itself. The Rimguard company itself: They suck! They won't sell you the liquid itself, no you have to go to a dealer and pay to have installed. Which means you have to either take the tractor or the tire/wheels to get them loaded. Secondly, their so-called "Dealer Locator" on their website - isn't. To find a dealer you have to e-mail them, and then they only send you one dealer instead of choices. Hey RG: How about putting a real "Dealer Locator" on your web site like Kroger, Walmart, McDonalds, AutoZone, O'Reillys etc. etc. etc. like virtually every other American company does. You know, for the convenience of your customers.
Thanks for the comment, we are happy to hear you like our product. Also, thanks for the feedback, we are currently revamping our website, set to launch this summer. We are taking your comments about our dealer locator into consideration for the new site. We should suck less with the new site launch!
we have brush guard on the back of our tractor and no FEL so we need to put all the weight we can on the front of the tractor. Wheel weights, front weight bar, and ballast the front tires
Just a FYI... Recommended minimum ballasting requirements for specific tractors/FELs can be pretty astonishing. Ballasting, per Deere's own on-line manuals for the 520M MSL FEL on a 5075E Cab tractor (AKA Johnny 5): Option 1) 3-pt hitch only ballast @ 3,197 lbs(!). Option 2) 3-pt hitch @ 2,756 lbs AND rear axle @ 882 lbs (assuming that’s a total for both tires). The new Rim Guard put 738 lbs per tire on the rear axle (1,476 lbs total), so that is around 2x the recommended minimum axle ballast requirement. Even with the new Rim Guard, you'll still need something really heavy on the 3-pt. I have no idea what kind of 3-pt implement weighs 2,756 lbs, let alone 3,197 lbs. One thing not mentioned in the Deere manual is where that 3-pt hitch weight number is actually located. I'd have to assume its out at the "24-inch behind the balls" distance normally used when specifying the 3-pt hitch lift capacity. In the case of the 5075E, that 24" behind spec is 3192 lbs. Like I said, astonishing!
Tim the only place near me for RimGuard is in Memphis. That’s about 2 hours away. I had already been considering it, but sure hate to haul Little John that far...
Did you happen to weight one of Johnny 1's tires to do a comparison and see the real weight. It would be interesting to see if the chart is close or not.
Unlike other dealer locators, RimGuard website doesn't have a map with closest dealer,only a "contacts us form" I plan on calling the tractor dealer i bought my Kioti from and see if they did load my tire already, and if not, if they can it, or know who can. I don't understand why rimguard can't do a dealer map like everyone else pn the web.
Right, that's what I did just call my locals to find which one uses RimGuard. Turns out that they all do and their pricing is Very close to same. My JD 2305 now has all 4 tires filled 👍YAY maybe it'll save what life I've left at 72 👦😎🙄
Martha....seems to be doing ok now. After running over him, he decided to run under the garage door while it was coming down....got smashed again!!!! Seems to have recovered. ....but he is more scared of noise now.
I am having the rear tires of my new 2032R tractor being filled with Beet Juice..... I haven't taken delivery of the tractor yet....is Beet Juice ok? Will it rust out the wheels?? And..... if you cannot use a loader without a ballast box, I am wondering why adding these liquids to the rear tires is beneficial?? Thanks for your thoughts.
Beet juice, formally known as Rimguard will not rust the rims. Huge value for these small machines. They need the extra weight for traction, stability, and ballast. You will find it improves the ride quality as well, since the tractor doesn’t bounce as much. Rimguard is the best ballast because it is inexpensive, and it is ‘hidden’. It doesn’t take up space which could be used by something else. You need the weight to hold the rear end down. Yes, you also need 3 pt ballast, such as ballast box. Both are needed. In my opinion, I would go a step further and get rear wheel weights in addition to Rimguard and a ballast box. Your loader is WAY out front, and makes the rear end light. We have LOTS of episodes discussing rear ballast with Rimguard. Maybe we should do another one!
Thanks so much for the clarification, Tim! You are the Man!! I was over today checking on the progress of the new 2032R and they have already added the 'Beet Juice' aka RimGuard. Much appreciated. @@TractorTimewithTim
Hey Tim got a question. I’ve been told that filling tractor tires with fluid can rob some power from your tractor is this true? I got a 1949 farmall cub I’m thinking of filling with fluid on the rear but unsure if I should seeing it’s only a 10 hp tractor on a good day and don’t want to rob to much power. Thanks.
Tim, what are your thoughts about putting four tires on compact tractor as shown on Good Works Tractor? Not trying to pit the two of you against each other but curious to learn your thoughts? Are dual tires front and rear a good idea? Is there too much stress on front axle? Do dual wheels on compact tractor increase stability on slopes? Seems a bit like Ventrac lite, but what are your thoughts? Thanks.
There is some disagreement on that point. Some say to replace them with steel. Others say the rubber valve stems are fine. Rimguard (the company) does not have an opinion on this. I have asked them.
My quick question is, what’s the shelf (inner tire Life) of the beet juice? Due to heat it has to expand, even if by a little bit, and since it was an actual product of a living 🌱 which means it will eventually decompose. I think I saw a previous video you did that the tech said it smells really bad.
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You couldn't have asked for a better tech to come out and do this! He was perfectly at ease in front of camera. Explaining everything so nicely, not all people are at ease, or willing to talk to you as if nobody was recording!!! Good video Tim!
You are right. However, we can usually get folks to relax and not worry about the camera.
Great video. I had RimGuard in my 4 series Deere, and It made a huge difference in the capability of the tractor. As you mentioned, I still liked doing heavy loader work with a rear attachment to offload the front axle.
I hope you tipped him well for taking the time to be such a good source of info and participant during his busy day
Uh, yea. He was well paid.
Jason is a professional, great job. Thanks for the video, this helped a lot.
I've been putting off getting Rim Guard in my tractor tires due to the transportation needs to get it to the dealer. Knowing you can get someone to come to your place is a game changer!
i keep reading about game changers,,,,and no one ever mentions the game,,,,what game are you talking about??
Had mine filled when I bought the tractor and I'm glad I did.
You always make it so interesting to learn about different aspects of tractor ownership & use so interesting and entertaining!
Tim best video we have ever seen good for all tractor owners so much information
God Bless All
PaK
Talked to Jason a couple weeks ago and does tire work on our work truck. Great guy!
I am the only person I know of that uses Rim Guard in the front tires of my 1025 R I find that it helps with keeping them properly inflated. Been doing this for 5 years and the front tires never lose pressure. I don't do it for the weight, only the benefit that I worry less about front tire underinflation.
“It’s what works well for us”... I was thinking that this may not work well for me as you said that Tim. Great video as always... always look forward to them! 😊
A good thing to reiterate as he kind of glossed over it is that once Rim Guard in in there, you have to check the pressure with the valve @ 12 o'clock.
Good work and an interesting video. You converted me on one of your earlier videos to Rimguard and I find this ballast solution to be very effective. As you mentioned, the weight is as low as possible. My first go with Rimguard was on a set of HDAP tires used for plowing snow with a loader mounted blade. I filled the fronts to provide as much steering traction as possible. Seemed to help. Now have Versa Turfs with Rimguard in the rears only. We have some gooey clay and they excel in that stuff.
Have a good day Tractor Time with Tim
I had my 3035d filled when I bought it, I like the way it handles loads in the bucket, the only time I’ve drove the tractor without the rim guard was around the lot at the dealership. At around 400 pounds per tire it has to be helpful!!
I do have liquid ballasst in all 8 wheels of my Ventrac. No local beet juice, so I used the ever popular winter concentration winshield washer fluid. Super easy to do since the Ventrac rims have 2 valve stems 180 degrees opposed. 7 gallons eash tire. My slopes are severe and this helps and it is a huge help with the boom arm mower. I tried threading the outer tires of the dual pairs as one normally does and what a royal PIA! Then I wised-up and removed the lugs of the outer wheels to make the changes or to check torque of inner -- that is easy!
Good info.
HEY! You jinxed me! I got my "J.D." out this afternoon and its ballisted front tire had this little shiney spot with dampness about it. A bee hive frame nail! So I jack that tire off the ground, pull the little cigar box nail, use a drill to enlarge/freshen the hole and a solvent cement sticky rope plug to save the day. No ballast lost. J.D. is a 1983 650 with the big Pillow Diameter turf tires. Great tractor and runs like new.
i put washer fluid in mine myself with a pump. i understand its not as heavy as the beet juice but i got a 55 gallon drum of it for free. it works really good.
Another great and informative video. Your statements on the use or not, especially between lawn only vice loader,etc has help steer me in a better informed direction. Thank You
When we were tractor pulling, we made a plate that bolted to the lug nuts and a pipe welded to it. We then slid 50lb lead discs onto the pipes. We could make a 300lb mini modified tractor, into a 1500lb tractor. We had to do it that way because there were 4 weight classes, 800, 900, 1200 and 1500lb and had to switch weight classes constantly. Cool video Tim.
We are lucky here,straight water works. People will say it will rust the rim, but even if it does, it takes forever. My family has had water in the tires for 50-60 years and the rim hasn't rusted.
Yep, thats what I use. No problems. Way cheaper and easy to do yourself just pick up the adapter valve at your local hardware store
Hey Tim...I just got a air ride seat installed on my 1025r...works great so far. Thanks for sharing...
Very informative video and thanks for explaining why you didn't put Rim Guard in Vinnie. All these tips help us make better decisions. Jason did a good job explaining too.
Another commenter mentioned that he uses Rimguard in his Vinny due to extreme slopes.
Great video Tim. I absolutely love the versa turf tires on my rwd Bolens ht23. Good friend of mine was looking to buy a new compact tractor. He asked me my advise on what to get. I told him easy choice, 1025r, and to check out your videos. He just took delivery of his new johnny. He loves it. I told him to see if he could get the versa turf tires when he was ordering it, but they told him they were not an option.
Great info and content. Interesting to watch a md learn! Thanks for sharing this Tim!
Thanks for responding back I asked tractor Mike the same thing I didn't get a response but I like the way that I asked the question better than the way that I did to you. Maybe that would have gotten the wheels turning in a different direction you might say no pun intended. Sorry for it seeming like I was being a smart tail.
I'm still a believer in the front being filled Tim. Next time I mow I'm going to add weights to the front too and see how that goes. I need the front to be planted as much as possible just like the rear. I'm noticing it even more now that I have the Terra Trac tires on.
Anyone in Ontario, Canada: There is a dealer in Ingersoll that has it. I got mine done there. The fill process was knock the tire off the rim, and pour it in the side. We didn't use the valve stem. This was on a Massey GC-1720.
Hey Tim 🇺🇸 🚜 great information 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Another good informative video. Thanks for sharing Tim.
I recommend greasing the valve stem external threads before putting the cap back on. Otherwise, the Rimguard can sort of glue the cap to the stem.
Never thought to check valve stem caps for rubber grommets.
Cheers.
yup, after all Rim Guard IS made from "Sugar Beets", which is why it doesn't freeze, sticky Sugar..
Sounded like gromlets. I guess that's an Indiana thing. 😆
@@Dan-oz4qb Amazon product info uses different language: Airtight Rubber O-Ring Seal - These cap tire valves provide an enhanced seal to help prevent air leakage and to properly keep out dust, dirt, grime and road debris.
@@Formulabruce If you don't grease, then trying to get the cap off can break the stem. Which creates an expensive puddle in the driveway. Which is why I changed to another product for refill.
@@Dan-oz4qb I heard Grom-let as well lol
As soon as i heard you got a 5 series tractor that saying at the end of the vid is exactly what came to my mind. Lol.
Johnny 5 is alive no dissassemble! Lol.
I ended up going with -20 degree rated windshield washer fluid from Sam's Club for my 1025r tires. It made a huge difference.
That is much cheaper the RG. Plus you can install it yourself. I have a funny feeling it was not inexpensive.
I use it on my 2032R. Good blast that take no extra space. Well worth it.
TY, nice video. I filled up my air pig that I pressurized and was filed with winter washer fluid then transferred that into the rear tires on my mower, it added 62 lbs per tire. This method is best because filled tires and wheel weights don' t add any weight to the wheel bearings load the way rear hanging weights do.
Very informative. This technician was very knowledgable.
I had all tires on my Yanmar sc2400 filled with foam 10 years ago never had a flat and enjoy the extra ballast.
What a great idea!!
I never imagined you could rig a sprayer like that
THANKS
WOW over 700 lbs/tire on the first tractor, that tire didn't look all that big. Because of a flat tire a couple years ago I have Rim Gard in one and Ballast Star in other. Good informational video with excellent narration.
Good informative video. It was good to see Mary at the end.
How much does the rim guard expand or contract with temperature? I know air will, and it will do a lot. Does the rim guard help prevent the tires airing down when it gets cold?
Good question. I do not know.
@@TractorTimewithTim fluids are much less susceptible to volume & pressure fluctuation due to temperature than gasses are. Rimguard also has a much lower freeze point (-35) than water due to the sugar solution dissolved in it, but, because it is water-based, when it does freeze, it will expand like water does and can cause issues. lots of physics involved, but, with the smaller air volume left in the tire and the majority of the fluid being less dynamic, you will not notice much difference between a 110 degree day and a -30 degree day.
this is why I am getting agri-lim in mine, winters can be pretty bad here, will support -50 celcius (agri-lim.com/en/product/)
oh wow you got some rearfenders on the 5E, looks really good!:D
Yea, they look nice!
All 4 of my 2032r tires are filled. It really has made a big difference. Highly recommended. The only problem is if you drive down the road at a high speed, you can feel it sloshing around and makes it bumpy.
I think you may need more fluid. From what I read, if you are planning to run at higher speeds, you want to fill above the rim (valve stem). This will help prevent sloshing, but will make a rougher ride as liquid doesn't compress like air. Another reason to use R4's rather than radial - you loose the flex a radial would provide. So cheaper and once filled not much different in flex/ride quality. BTW: this is what I'm hearing "on the street", so maybe Tim could chime in?
Great video Tim really good information. Have a great day
Hi Tim so he did not replace valve stems on your 1025 just kept the rubber ones?
Discussed later in the video.
I have a JD 4100 that I had fluid put in all four tires when new. I recently replaced the front tires and did not add fluid. What a difference. The front tires will not turn on hills and only scoot forward when turned sharply. I AM INSTALLING FLUID NEXT WEEK before I get in trouble.
How wound
the rim guard in John five is going to effect the transport
of the tractor on the trailer. Are you still going to be under that 26000 pound.
Let’s hope.
On garden tractors filling steer tires helps even if you only add 20lbs per tire every little bit helps with a front snowblower that sits on the ground in operation since they like to go straight when you loose the added steer tire traction from the snowblowers weight as soon as the blower is lowered to the ground (I run tri and quad Rib steer tires on my garden tractors in16x6. 50-8) and my 23x10.50-12 v bar rear tires both front and rear loaded to 80%... My steer tires were factory 2ply on all my machines but I upgraded to 4or 6ply (depending on which tractor tire was installed).
Interesting, I heard of people around here putting wind shield antifreeze fluid in their rear tires for weight but never a specific use product. Check your tractor with the forks attached at 20:10 of this video. Looks like your radiator is packed with debris. Best Regards, Jay
Front Grille sure does have debris !
Back in 2006 when I bought my tractor they wanted to fill my tires with calcium chloride. I told the the dealer no. As I knew it would rot the rims I have gotten by without weight in the tires as it does double duty as a lawn tractor and garden duty. The only time I notice the lack of weight is using the plow. If using the bucket for heavy lifting I will hang the tiller off the back as it is heavy and behind the rear axles like Tim mentioned for weight and taking some load off the front. Besides I have free ballast every time I sit in the seat LOL.
Very educational video. Thanks Larry
I feel like I read in the manual not to load front tires with liquid balast. I just loaded my rears with ww fluid and it cost about $45 to get it done for me. I used the jack method to get it done. What do they charge to fill the 1025 tire?
Haven’t got the bill yet :-)
An excellent video packed withnknowledge and options. Thanks!
Watching this again, tomorrow morning the tire service is coming out to such out calcium and put a new tube and rim guard in our Oliver 550 tires tomorrow morning. We went to fill them up, they were low, and the tubes broke, on both sides.
Nice info on the 3R mowing- that's what I have 3039R
Advantage of living in Florida, we just fill tractor tires up with a garden hose. You just have to keep letting the air out to prevent over-pressurizing the tire. Haven't had time to do my new 1023E.
Well done info on the Rim Guard, and the alternative installation of it on site, instead of taking the tractor to dealer. Just curious as if tire pressure changes more in extreme (summer vs. winter) temperatures? Nice job Tim and Christie, and blessings to you.
I don’t know, Kenton.
I'd assume the pressure would change less since there's much less air in the tire. Or maybe the smaller volume of air makes it more sensitive to temperature change? Great question!
Yes this is what an expert said in response to another same question.
How that effect on rear wheel bearings/hubs
No issues
No effect; because the weight is all going direct to the ground. If the ballast weight were attached to the frame of the tractor, it would be resting on the bearings and you would want to keep an eye on how much the axle is rated for vs how much you have on it.
The other answers are correct. This is the safest ballast on the axles. Same with cast iron weights on the wheel itself.
Effectively, in automotive terms, sprung vs. unsprung weight (the reactors don't have springs but...). What does have an effect is moving the tires in/out as tim mentioned, but probably not enough affect to cause premature wear unless MAYBE one was ALWAYS carrying the max load off the ground on the 3 pt. hitch and the tires were spaced out as far as poss.
💥 I’ve been thinking of those versa turfs. I think they would provide better overall seasonal traction than the new R14’s
*Keep on tractoring!* 👍
I prefer the Versa Turfs to the galaxy garden pros.
Did he say grommlet? 🤣 I never considered someone could come to me to put in Rim Guard. I might try to find that. My BX23s could use it.
Several times :-) oh well, he knew what he was doing!!
Grommlet rhymes with omlet which makes me hungry. Other than that it's OK new word!
@@glenbreaks5448 LOVE IT!, for 40 years I have been looking for an excuse!
Yep. It's the same as people that say "chimley" for chimney. Others will say things like "chester drawers" for chest of drawers. "Supposebly" for supposedly, along with the normal "their/there/they're" and "or/are," etc. Drives me nuts.
@@CarrotDugTooDeep ... How bout Brand Clean ? I've used all those words my whole life as our 200+ family members all have. Suppoubly🙄😁
what is the info on that jack, like cost and availability?
My dad put calcium chloride in the rears of our Oliver 66 back in the early fifties. Still going today with no rusting of the rims.
i bet those tires had tubes in them??
Did Jason come from Greencastle? Fun fact the Greencastle shop is in an old John Deere dealership.
Yep. Cool.
Did it also help with traction as well as ballast?
Yes, of course. That is one of the main purposes of ballast.
Did u endup getting versa turf tires on 1025r I guess I should watch the whole video I see u put them on
How you replace the tires do you drain it or just go for it and let go every where
They can ‘reclaim’ the fluid by pumping it back into a tote.
I'd love to know where to get that pump and fancy valve stem tool. Hmm....
I have a subcompact tractor that i use in the summer months for mowing. Do you recommend rim guard if I use the tractor to mow? My yard is mainly flat. I do use the tractor for snow removal in the winter.
I do, yes.
It will improve the ride (less vertical ‘hopping’).
The only possible time you will have negative issues is very early in spring when it is muddy. Even then, with subcompact, I don’t see issues.
Overall, you will have a ‘stronger’ feeling tractor with the extra weight.
Thank you for the quick response! I am going to set up an appointment and get the tires filled with Rim Guard. Do you recommend changing the valve stem out or keeping the rubber? I know your video said the rim guard doesn't hurt the rubber valve stem, but I wanted to ask now that some time has passed.
@@tmonk001 yes. Change out the valve stem.
Thank you!
I liked the front tires on my Ford 2000 filled with ballast because the front end was so light when I lifted the bush hog and drove on a bumpy road I had better control. The Ford 5000 had no issues. But all my tractors had the rear tires filled.
The rimguard solution is a great product in and of itself. The Rimguard company itself: They suck! They won't sell you the liquid itself, no you have to go to a dealer and pay to have installed. Which means you have to either take the tractor or the tire/wheels to get them loaded. Secondly, their so-called "Dealer Locator" on their website - isn't. To find a dealer you have to e-mail them, and then they only send you one dealer instead of choices. Hey RG: How about putting a real "Dealer Locator" on your web site like Kroger, Walmart, McDonalds, AutoZone, O'Reillys etc. etc. etc. like virtually every other American company does. You know, for the convenience of your customers.
Thanks for the comment, we are happy to hear you like our product. Also, thanks for the feedback, we are currently revamping our website, set to launch this summer. We are taking your comments about our dealer locator into consideration for the new site. We should suck less with the new site launch!
we have brush guard on the back of our tractor and no FEL so we need to put all the weight we can on the front of the tractor. Wheel weights, front weight bar, and ballast the front tires
Do you have to install a tube to install rim guard
No. I run rimguard in all of my rear tires. ...and no tubes in any of them.
Just a FYI... Recommended minimum ballasting requirements for specific tractors/FELs can be pretty astonishing. Ballasting, per Deere's own on-line manuals for the 520M MSL FEL on a 5075E Cab tractor (AKA Johnny 5): Option 1) 3-pt hitch only ballast @ 3,197 lbs(!). Option 2) 3-pt hitch @ 2,756 lbs AND rear axle @ 882 lbs (assuming that’s a total for both tires). The new Rim Guard put 738 lbs per tire on the rear axle (1,476 lbs total), so that is around 2x the recommended minimum axle ballast requirement. Even with the new Rim Guard, you'll still need something really heavy on the 3-pt. I have no idea what kind of 3-pt implement weighs 2,756 lbs, let alone 3,197 lbs. One thing not mentioned in the Deere manual is where that 3-pt hitch weight number is actually located. I'd have to assume its out at the "24-inch behind the balls" distance normally used when specifying the 3-pt hitch lift capacity. In the case of the 5075E, that 24" behind spec is 3192 lbs. Like I said, astonishing!
Yep! Extrapolating from the numbers above, 1500 lb on the axle plus 2000 lb on the 3 point should work. That is what we’ll have.
Tim the only place near me for RimGuard is in Memphis. That’s about 2 hours away. I had already been considering it, but sure hate to haul Little John that far...
Ugh! Maybe lobby your local tire dealer to become a Rimguard dealer?
Couldn’t you just take the wheels off and just haul them? I thought I’d do that and I have a dealer pretty close.
RVJimD I could do that but I just don’t know if I could then handle them back home with so much weight.
How many lbs of rimguard did the 2038r tires hold?
I’m guessing 25 gal each...~600 lb.
But this tire size is not in their chart. So, not sure.
I have my fronts weighted on my small loader 2wd. it helps with front end weight when digging into material. all around feels more stable.
Did you happen to weight one of Johnny 1's tires to do a comparison and see the real weight. It would be interesting to see if the chart is close or not.
I’m a bit concerned about the accuracy of the fill. I did not weigh a tire.
Unlike other dealer locators, RimGuard website doesn't have a map with closest dealer,only a "contacts us form" I plan on calling the tractor dealer i bought my Kioti from and see if they did load my tire already, and if not, if they can it, or know who can. I don't understand why rimguard can't do a dealer map like everyone else pn the web.
Right, that's what I did just call my locals to find which one uses RimGuard. Turns out that they all do and their pricing is Very close to same. My JD 2305 now has all 4 tires filled 👍YAY maybe it'll save what life I've left at 72 👦😎🙄
Is that the beet juice?
That giant claw on the truck is insane
Going by my old memory. My manuals with my 2025r say 120lbs wheel weight, filled tires, and 600 or 800lbs rear weight(ALL 3).
Is there any need to put the Rim Gaurd in the front tires?
I don’t think worth it. 30 lbs each.
I use my 2610 koiti for cutting my grass and doing all my other jobs I don't make ruts or tear up my yard with r4 tires but I do wana fill them
have tried both r4 and old school ag tires and the r4 tires are junk as for traction where i had them any way
Yes, no comparison to R1’s! I agree!
How is the cat (can't remember if it was Mary) that got run over a while back?
Martha....seems to be doing ok now. After running over him, he decided to run under the garage door while it was coming down....got smashed again!!!! Seems to have recovered.
....but he is more scared of noise now.
@@TractorTimewithTim aw... poor kitty☹. They are tough though.
She's down to 7... maybe 6 lives left!! :)
Tim, what are your thoughts on inner tubes for 1025r?
No need for tubes.
Agree. Tubes are so last century. 😀. You also cannot plug a tube. These machines seem to pick up punctures that usually can be easily plugged.
What valve stem is on the 1025r??
I had my tires foam filled. It was worth the money.
Ugh. THAT would ride rough!
Cool video Tim thanks for sharing buddy
Did y’all have any derecho damage?
Sparks tire are great people. They do a lot of work for our dealership.
Good video, I still need to find someone to do this same thing to my new Johnny soon
I am having the rear tires of my new 2032R tractor being filled with Beet Juice..... I haven't taken delivery of the tractor yet....is Beet Juice ok? Will it rust out the wheels?? And..... if you cannot use a loader without a ballast box, I am wondering why adding these liquids to the rear tires is beneficial?? Thanks for your thoughts.
Beet juice, formally known as Rimguard will not rust the rims.
Huge value for these small machines. They need the extra weight for traction, stability, and ballast.
You will find it improves the ride quality as well, since the tractor doesn’t bounce as much.
Rimguard is the best ballast because it is inexpensive, and it is ‘hidden’. It doesn’t take up space which could be used by something else.
You need the weight to hold the rear end down. Yes, you also need 3 pt ballast, such as ballast box. Both are needed.
In my opinion, I would go a step further and get rear wheel weights in addition to Rimguard and a ballast box.
Your loader is WAY out front, and makes the rear end light.
We have LOTS of episodes discussing rear ballast with Rimguard.
Maybe we should do another one!
Thanks so much for the clarification, Tim! You are the Man!! I was over today checking on the progress of the new 2032R and they have already added the 'Beet Juice' aka RimGuard. Much appreciated.
@@TractorTimewithTim
Hey Tim got a question. I’ve been told that filling tractor tires with fluid can rob some power from your tractor is this true? I got a 1949 farmall cub I’m thinking of filling with fluid on the rear but unsure if I should seeing it’s only a 10 hp tractor on a good day and don’t want to rob to much power. Thanks.
No, it will not affect hp. Our Farmall cub when I was a kid had filled tires.
RimGuard and IsoTunes being represented here in this video.
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And by the way, I believe the description is quite open about these sponsorships.
This is the first video that you have fender flares on Johnny 5. Reviews? Model number? Average price?
Good questions..I’ll have to look them up. Quick review...VERY easy to install. I think they will help keep the mud from getting the cab dirty.
Tim, what are your thoughts about putting four tires on compact tractor as shown on Good Works Tractor? Not trying to pit the two of you against each other but curious to learn your thoughts? Are dual tires front and rear a good idea? Is there too much stress on front axle? Do dual wheels on compact tractor increase stability on slopes? Seems a bit like Ventrac lite, but what are your thoughts? Thanks.
Impractical. The benefit of a subcompact is its maneuverability. The duals defeat most of that. He does it just to get views, and to sell the kit.
Tim, thanks very much for your honest reply. You've saved your many viewers money and future frustration. God Bless you and Christy for all you do.
Are the factory 1025R valve stems compatible with RimGuard? I was told they are not!
There is some disagreement on that point. Some say to replace them with steel. Others say the rubber valve stems are fine. Rimguard (the company) does not have an opinion on this. I have asked them.
what are better for my 1023 versiturf of the industrial tires
for witer use and digging
Probably Versa turf
What size disc is that at the end of the video? Is it a perfect match for the 5075?
8’
My quick question is, what’s the shelf (inner tire Life) of the beet juice? Due to heat it has to expand, even if by a little bit, and since it was an actual product of a living 🌱 which means it will eventually decompose. I think I saw a previous video you did that the tech said it smells really bad.
I have never heard of a ‘shelf life’. I doubt it can decompose much since it is not exposed to ‘fresh air’.