I use cacl for dust control and collect some from tire dealers that changed out calcium for bio ballast due to ease of use and large distribution network, never worked on a tire but tire guys don’t like beet juice.
Salesman advised me right up front you need something on the rear with that loader bucket, pulled out the spec's figured out max load on the rear axel and total tractor load ect. and ordered the tires be filled before I took the tractor home, was lucky to have a great dealership who cares about there customers.
Using rough numbers, rim guard is about 1.5 lbs heavier per gallon. That could make the difference overall in being able to lift max loader weight or not. 100 gal would be 150 lbs difference in ballast weight. But no doubt if Bio Ballast is available locally, it's a no brainer. Tire ballast really does help.
Bio-Ballast and Rim Guard Beet juice and not available in Arizona and shipping is out of the question. So my three choices were plain water, window washing fluid, or RV & Marine Anti-Freeze. Water & air make rust, plus it freezes at +32 degrees so that is out. WWF & RVA were the same price at Walmart so no cost advantage either way, but WWF cannot be made non-toxic and is lighter per gallon. RVA is made for RV & Marine potable water systems so it is non-toxic, non-corrosive, is heavier than WWF, and is good to -50 degrees (it does start getting slushy at 0 degrees but we are no where near that cold here). 96 gallons gave me just over 800 lbs. of additional weight in the tires plus I have a pair of 80 lb. weights, and I leave my 530 lb. box blade on the 3 point when doing heavy loader work on my compact Kioti DK4520 tractor; it is very stable!
Forgot to ask: is it true that you need to change your valve stems when filling tires w/ any liquid ballast? If true, seems to me you’d want to do that up front, before filling the tires. Please confirm - or bust - this “word in the field.” Thanks again Mike.
Thanks Mike. Nice to know about this alternative to RimGuard. If I listened properly, it sounds like EnviroTech’s product has a lower freezing point than RimGuard. I suppose now it comes down to which product is cheaper, and how far i need to haul my tractor from Wisconsin’s north woods (~15 mi. South of Lake Superior). Very rural, and very cold in winter, sometimes early spring too. Thanks for covering this important topic!
So according to the salesman..... The only disadvantage of beet juice or "Rim Guard" is that you can't mix it with other fluids. Why would you want to? If I do a tire repair tomorrow, I put Rim Guard right back in and wouldn't have a thought of mixing something else with it. It's messy? So is engine oil, transmission fluid and coolant. This smells of a product endorsement kick back to me. Is this a better solution than beet juice or Rim Guard? Maybe, but in my opinion it doesn't seem like there's that much difference to me.
I agree, they mention a few times that Beet Juice is messy LOL. Well, when you are careless I'm sure it is, just like that other brand they're trying to sell in the video, its quite messy too when you are careless about handling it. However, they're "proprietary" ingredients they won't tell you what's in it leads me to just use beet juice, I know what's in it, and well there's a beet factory about 30 miles from where I live, pretty easily obtainable anywhere in the country actually regardless how far away you are from a beet factory, they ship that stuff all over the country. This video was nothing more than an ad trying to claim that new product is the fix all for everything. Its not, and I bet its more expensive than beet juice.
It's messy ??? When it is inside the tire , where is the mess ? And if i have a flat , any product can be a mess ! And bett juice weight more and cost less and dont freeze ! What is the advantage of your product except the smooth talking ?
@@jamieebersole6755I don’t know S from shineola on this topic, but I do know my local tractor dealer refuses to use beet juice, claiming it’s a big smelly mess. 🤷🏼♂️ They use windsheild washer fluid ( I think) and claim they won’t change a tire with beat juice in it. Incidentally I am pretty sure it’s NOT a money play on their part. Kentucky is very hilly, so pretty much everything they sell gets loaded tires and wheel weights standard.
Great alternative to see. Dad never did want calcium chloride. Some other you tubers really push beet juice. Glad to hear how messy it is. Wouldn't want that.
The "beet juice" RimGuard is not that messy. It is stinky and sticky but no big deal. You only get a little bit from the valve stem when you clear it before checking tire pressure. That's it.
It’s not messy for you at all. You call the dealer and he puts it in. It is water soluble so the little spurt when you check your pressure wipes right off with a damp paper towel. You’ll ever know it’s there unless you burst a tire. Then you call the tire guy to change it hose the tractor clean and get back to work.
If it is so easy to use and nonhazardous why can't I buy it and install it myself? The reason some of us use things like windshield washer fluid or RV antifreeze is; 1) It's cheap. 2) We can install it ourselves. 3) We are not concerned about the nominal weight difference (55.5 pounds more according to video on a 420/70-24 tire that I have on my small tractor) over water. 4) The SDS has the same hazards as Bio-Ballast 5) It works.
Given the huge number of people with fluid in the tires I would guess there is more than one 'right way'. And a lot of smaller tractors can't hang weights on the wheel.
in the manual of my 2019 john deere it says to use liguid ballast wheel weights and 3 point hitch weight to achieve proper ballast for front end loader work. there is a chart that shows how much weight to put where for proper ballast.
I use cacl for dust control and collect some from tire dealers that changed out calcium for bio ballast due to ease of use and large distribution network, never worked on a tire but tire guys don’t like beet juice.
Salesman advised me right up front you need something on the rear with that loader bucket, pulled out the spec's figured out max load on the rear axel and total tractor load ect. and ordered the tires be filled before I took the tractor home, was lucky to have a great dealership who cares about there customers.
Using rough numbers, rim guard is about 1.5 lbs heavier per gallon. That could make the difference overall in being able to lift max loader weight or not. 100 gal would be 150 lbs difference in ballast weight.
But no doubt if Bio Ballast is available locally, it's a no brainer. Tire ballast really does help.
Bio-Ballast and Rim Guard Beet juice and not available in Arizona and shipping is out of the question. So my three choices were plain water, window washing fluid, or RV & Marine Anti-Freeze. Water & air make rust, plus it freezes at +32 degrees so that is out. WWF & RVA were the same price at Walmart so no cost advantage either way, but WWF cannot be made non-toxic and is lighter per gallon. RVA is made for RV & Marine potable water systems so it is non-toxic, non-corrosive, is heavier than WWF, and is good to -50 degrees (it does start getting slushy at 0 degrees but we are no where near that cold here). 96 gallons gave me just over 800 lbs. of additional weight in the tires plus I have a pair of 80 lb. weights, and I leave my 530 lb. box blade on the 3 point when doing heavy loader work on my compact Kioti DK4520 tractor; it is very stable!
nice alternative. Not as heavy as beet juice but cleaner and won't freeze.
Forgot to ask: is it true that you need to change your valve stems when filling tires w/ any liquid ballast? If true, seems to me you’d want to do that up front, before filling the tires. Please confirm - or bust - this “word in the field.” Thanks again Mike.
Thanks Mike. Nice to know about this alternative to RimGuard. If I listened properly, it sounds like EnviroTech’s product has a lower freezing point than RimGuard. I suppose now it comes down to which product is cheaper, and how far i need to haul my tractor from Wisconsin’s north woods (~15 mi. South of Lake Superior). Very rural, and very cold in winter, sometimes early spring too. Thanks for covering this important topic!
So according to the salesman..... The only disadvantage of beet juice or "Rim Guard" is that you can't mix it with other fluids. Why would you want to? If I do a tire repair tomorrow, I put Rim Guard right back in and wouldn't have a thought of mixing something else with it. It's messy? So is engine oil, transmission fluid and coolant. This smells of a product endorsement kick back to me. Is this a better solution than beet juice or Rim Guard? Maybe, but in my opinion it doesn't seem like there's that much difference to me.
I agree, they mention a few times that Beet Juice is messy LOL. Well, when you are careless I'm sure it is, just like that other brand they're trying to sell in the video, its quite messy too when you are careless about handling it.
However, they're "proprietary" ingredients they won't tell you what's in it leads me to just use beet juice, I know what's in it, and well there's a beet factory about 30 miles from where I live, pretty easily obtainable anywhere in the country actually regardless how far away you are from a beet factory, they ship that stuff all over the country.
This video was nothing more than an ad trying to claim that new product is the fix all for everything. Its not, and I bet its more expensive than beet juice.
It's messy ???
When it is inside the tire , where is the mess ?
And if i have a flat , any product can be a mess !
And bett juice weight more and cost less and dont freeze !
What is the advantage of your product except the smooth talking ?
@gilb6982 some tire guys hate dealing with beat juice and refuse to sell and install it because it's such a sticky mess.
@@jamieebersole6755I don’t know S from shineola on this topic, but I do know my local tractor dealer refuses to use beet juice, claiming it’s a big smelly mess. 🤷🏼♂️
They use windsheild washer fluid ( I think) and claim they won’t change a tire with beat juice in it.
Incidentally I am pretty sure it’s NOT a money play on their part. Kentucky is very hilly, so pretty much everything they sell gets loaded tires and wheel weights standard.
Great alternative to see. Dad never did want calcium chloride. Some other you tubers really push beet juice. Glad to hear how messy it is. Wouldn't want that.
The "beet juice" RimGuard is not that messy. It is stinky and sticky but no big deal. You only get a little bit from the valve stem when you clear it before checking tire pressure. That's it.
It’s not messy for you at all. You call the dealer and he puts it in. It is water soluble so the little spurt when you check your pressure wipes right off with a damp paper towel. You’ll ever know it’s there unless you burst a tire. Then you call the tire guy to change it hose the tractor clean and get back to work.
Opinion on drilling for a second valve stem 180 out, to make putting in and removing liquid ballast easier?
Can this be purchased direct by an end customer? in something like 5 gallon buckets or 55 gallon drums?
Let us know where you are located and if you are close we can help or direct you to a dealer who may sell it to you.
I'm in Shelton, CT
I would try MLCR LLC website I switched to them I didn't like calcium chloride because it rust every out
Sounds like a good product. How do you know how much weight to add to a tractor?
Have the valve stem turn to the top of the tire and fill with liquid until it reaches the valve stem. Then add air. About 96% of the tire.
Envirotech Services who produces Bio-Ballast has a filling guide on their website
If it is so easy to use and nonhazardous why can't I buy it and install it myself?
The reason some of us use things like windshield washer fluid or RV antifreeze is; 1) It's cheap. 2) We can install it ourselves. 3) We are not concerned about the nominal weight difference (55.5 pounds more according to video on a 420/70-24 tire that I have on my small tractor) over water. 4) The SDS has the same hazards as Bio-Ballast 5) It works.
The perfect tire fluid is water and antifreeze it preserves your tires and rims
Is there a link for a dealer locator?
MLCR, LLC has a dealer locator on their website under the Tire Ballast tab
Thr right way is to use weights.
Given the huge number of people with fluid in the tires I would guess there is more than one 'right way'. And a lot of smaller tractors can't hang weights on the wheel.
@@earlyriser8998 Yes i suppose your right about that , I mostly have rowcrop tractors.
in the manual of my 2019 john deere it says to use liguid ballast wheel weights and 3 point hitch weight to achieve proper ballast for front end loader work. there is a chart that shows how much weight to put where for proper ballast.
Horrible acoustics inside that building, hard to clearly understand everything that was said.
Agreed. I turned on closed caption so I could understand some of it.
I fill my tires with possum spunk