WHY YOU SHOULDN'T CARE IF WHEEL SPACERS VOID YOUR WARRANTY
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- Опубликовано: 1 сен 2023
- If you've watched our channel for a long time, you've seen us talk about wheel spacers. There are some differing opinions on using them on your tractor, and we'll give you ours again. Ultimately, don't be safe tomorrow on your tractor. Be safe today!
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I needed spacers for my Deere 2032 to clear the backhoe frame when installing chains.
I had a 33hp John Deere with 90 hours on it and traded it in because the dealer wouldn’t put wheel spacers on it.
I live on a mountain side property. When I bought my SCUT stability was a BIG concern. While talking with my dealer I asked him specifically if putting 2" spacers on the rear axle would stress the axle seals or void the warranty on that part. He said "Absolutely not, in this region we put spacers (and loaded tires) on the rear of almost every tractor we sell. Never had an issue from it."
I put Bora 2.5” on my 2025R and the stability is 100% better and it also improved the ride.
I put my Kubota cab tractor on it’s side no warning going through high brush first thing I did 2” spacers 👍
Thanks for sharing. Blessings to you and your family!
Very good timing on these as I was having one of those “pucker” moments on a new mowing job. Reminded me that I WAS going to put these on…ugh!
Some great information on spacers. Appreciate you knowledge on this and your videos.
Ordered rear 3” bora’s for a B2301. Incredibly easy install and helped tremendously.
Great review of wheel spacers. Although I don’t have them on my 3039R, I did have the rear wheels flipped to the wider width. Much more stable than my 1026R
I just bought an "old" 1979 JD tractor - 2040 - and wow! the construction quality difference is huge compared to my 2021 tractor. The old ones are HEAVY and wide. The new ones are light and narrow. There really is no comparison. In 40 years which ones will still be around? I think that's pretty easy to determine. The 2040 can widen or narrow the front set of wheels as standard with numerous settings (different crop row widths).
Great video! Tons of good info here.
Greetings from Reno, Nevada.
Great information as always.
I use Bora spacers on rear axle of 1023e. Drive over mower does not work with front spacers. 2 1/2 or 3 inch spacers cause an issue with right rear gauge wheel adjustment for attach/detach operations. I have adapted the process; less convenient but workable Better safe than sorry; I don’t want to make headlines for a rollover
I put 1.4 inch spacers on all 4 corners of my 1025r. The spacers on the front are needed for tire chains to clear the tie rod ends when I'm using a snow plow. With the spacers on the front, you need to be careful making sharp turns as the tires can rub the loader frame.
Absolutely agree with this video.....great job.
Thanks for watching Jeff!
I appreciate the video very much. As a physics aficionado (but not an engineer), here’s where I’m pretty certain you’re underestimating the need for front spacers:
Yes, the front axle pivots freely… but only so far - perhaps 15 degrees. In a tip-over event, the uphill tire can’t leave the ground until well after that point is reached since a tractor begins to flip at perhaps 30(ish) degrees or more. At that moment, the front axle play is well past its stopping point and the downhill tire is applying counterforce. THEN the extra width/leverage from wider wheels applies to keep the tractor from going over.
Absolutely. I'm an engineer so I drew up some free body diagrams to look at it. In certain situations, a pivoting front axle will actually see more of a benefit from wheel spacers than a fixed axle. Basically as the tractor tips (or the suspension pivots, depending on your frame of reference), the CG gets closer to the axle, and the angle between the the standard wheel location and the spaced wheel location widens.. Probably the biggest impact would be seen when the height of the CG is roughly equal to half the wheel spacing. I'd have to look at some actual tractor CG data to know how much of a difference it makes in the real world, but I believe front wheel spacers will always add at least a few extra degrees of safe angle.
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Thanks for the input. I’ve asked about this on a Facebook tractor page and received some similar input. One guy (also an engineer) was discussing the relationship between angle/traction and the forces that change as you’re making a turn facing downhill and then across the slope. A significant portion of the tractor’s weight is transferred onto the front outside tire such that any increase in width has a solid influence on stability (and traction). Couple that with 4wd engagement and it could be the difference between tipping… or not. 😬
Very informative, good & safe information......
You're right!! Measure from the center of each tire and see what it is.. I would add spacers to the tractor!!!!😊
Have a b26... went with rear only love the difference that and tire ballast has made... also took a 55 gallon drum welded internal supports together and some 3pt attachment points filled with concrete. Makes a world of difference when moving heavy stuff.. prolly 900 lb or so
Installed 2" spacers on my 3046R all around. I had the same logic: safety>machine. Borrowed pallet jack from work and it made the job simple. Jack up tractor with small bottle jack and come in from the side with pallet jack for the wheel.
Glad to hear it went smooth!
When I bought my property there was an abandoned pallet jack in the shed that the seller said didn't roll anymore. A little elbow grease and it rolls fine now and is incredibly useful when I need to move material around especially gawd awful heavy tractor tires filled with ballast! The pallet jack forks keep the tires upright, stable and not rolling around unintentionally.
I Put BORA 4" on front and back.!!! And its Rock Solid.!!! 2022 JD 3046r cab Tractor.!
You brought up so many GREAT points on this video. That said, I am told that (for the Kubota tractors, anyway) the Jeep wheel spacers are a perfect fit, and way better priced.
I run Bora spacers(2.5F, 3" R) on my 2025R Gen1. I don't mow with it but did try to put the 54" mmm on and it did't line up to drive over, and it rubbed on the left rear tire when we finally got it attached. So to actually use the 54" mmm you would have to remove the left side spacers. Since I don't mow with the tractor the deck went back in the barn and I put the spacers back on. The added stability is amazing and it is surprisingly easy to install the chains in the winter with the additional 3 inches of room !.
I put Bora 3” spacers on my L4060 rear axel to ensure room for my tire chains in the winter. The R4 Industrial tires take up too much of the wheel well otherwise. With that said I love the extra stability that this setup gives, especially since I added the beet juice in the tires…
Good point on the axles, Courtney. I bought some 2.5" spacers from bora, and now I realize I should have just bought them for the rear instead of all four.
Why questioning your decision on 4 spacers
I agree with you. The safety is or important than the risk of equipment damage.
I don't know about tractors, but in the automotive world they are always looking for excuses to deny a warranty claim. I just found out today from the local Bobcat dealer that adding any wheel weights or tire ballast voids their warranty. What???
Is there a study to show the increase of stability? Like angle of tipping point with and without spacers? Also the different size spacer would give a difference angle vs the added stress on the axle and bearings?
I had a kioti ck2610. I put 6in spacers on and the housing broke. They would not stand behind it so when it got fixed that tractor went to a new home. I bought a full size tractor. I miss having the smaller tractor for doing things.
Which tires do you recommend for traction on a 2025r?
Planting with a 4066r popcorn 😊
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I already have trouble when brush hogging with the loaded R4 tires crimping down the grass when I run over it wouldn't spacers just increase the width of the grass that stands up the next day?
My only question is if adding spacers is such a great benefit, why doesn't the manufacturers just widen the axle? You can say cost (which is probably a big part of it) but wouldn't them advertising a safer less tippy tractor also be a great marketing tool?
Seems like it, but I’ve never seen an industry slower to change than the Ag industry. They seem to lag behind everything else.
Depending on the tractor, some wheels are reversible, thus changing track width.
On front reverse rims.
I don't have spacers on my ck2610, I don't have any issues. I have loaded tires ,wheel spacers just give you a false security. I also live in cape breton nova Scotia which is quite hilly.
I think just adding liquid helps a lot. And you could do that until your warranty runs out.
I added rim guard to my tires on my 4010 compact. It made an incredible difference in pushing snow.
@@PhillipDavis830 is that rimguard high?
Anyone know the mahindra max26xl lug pattern, are they all the same as a deer or kubota?
what do you think i need on my 3025e i live in the ozarks very hilly area
Rear duals + liquid ballast + wheel weights + training wheels + winch + ........
Would you recommend putting them on the summit?
I've put them on everything. 4 wheelers, Side x Side, tractor, skid loader.
Does 1,5 or 2 inch spacers hinder the use of ramps on a trailer?
It would make sense that wider wheel spacers -- 3-plus inches -- would be an issue with trailer ramps if the spacers were only installed on the rear.
There are a lot of variables to consider for each individual situation. However, the overriding consideration has to be, what is your life worth?
I agree, that's priority 1.
If it’s a warranty issue just remove them before taking the tractor in for service if your concerned about that.
I can tell by your comment you never put wheel spacers on. I say never by a tractor that has Aluminum housings. Nuff said.
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Honestly just be careful. I have a BX2380 and I work on some definitely not ideal slopes and angles. No spacers. Go slow and if you feel a wheel going off the ground just stop. I think many just send it and end up with a tip over or dead or both. To me a tractor roll over is easy to sense. You are going slow it is not like a car.
I have a question for ya every time I see your rim guard commercial on every video you’ve published. Why are they putting it in a summit tractor when they come stock with rim guard from the factory. Just wondering if you could elaborate thank you for all your videos really has helped with purchase of my first tractor.
Mine was a prototype, so didn’t have it
I Would try to not use spacers on the front. Doing so moves the wheel centerline out, altering the load on the front wheel bearings. It also alters steering geometry. The spec that changes is called scrub radius and can cause accelerated wear on tires and bearings.
Good info, thanks for sharing!
Depending on the type of work you’re doing with the tractor I feel the trade off is worth it. Running on steep slopes is murder on tires and bearings anyway, you might as well be as safe as possible.
@@coryfoley9519 I can agree with that. Not like wheels spacers in the front will cause some Immediate Catastrophic failure. Most likely reduced lifespan of. Certain parts like bearings.
John Deere use to sell wheel spacers, not sure about now.
The dealer will use the spacer as a lever to not warranty your unit. Weigh that one out carefully.
Do you have spacers on your summit?
2 in on rear ,no isdues with drive over deck on massey 1723e. I see no advantage fir front spacers. Its a floating axle.
5 or 6 inches is not much? 😅
An extra few inches is very noticeable.
@@brianhillis3701that's what she said...
@@brianhillis3701 that's what I've heard
That's what the ladies say....
Not tractor related, but you sir are physically fit!
take them spacers off before taking the tractor to shop to get warranty work done. here no evil see no evil sad but they may pull crap over a totally different issue needing work