Can Mike Portnoy Execute Mike Mangini's Drum Part ?
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Can Mike Portnoy Execute Mike Mangini's Drum Part ?
In this video, we dive deep into the epic journey of Dream Theater, one of the most iconic progressive metal bands. We explore the band's history, from its early days as Majesty, to the influence of its founder and original member, Mike Portnoy.
Discover the reasons behind Mike Portnoy's departure from Dream Theater, his desire to explore new horizons, and the Grammy-winning era under Mike Mangini's drumming expertise. We discuss how "The Alien" earned Dream Theater their first Grammy in the category of "Best Metal Performance."
The main question we explore in this video is whether Mike Portnoy, after 13 years away from Dream Theater, can perform Mike Mangini's drum parts. We emphasize that this is not a competition or comparison between two drumming legends, but a celebration of their unique talents.
Join us in this musical journey and share your thoughts on the incredible contributions of Mike Mangini and Mike Portnoy to Dream Theater.
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I think he'd be able to play them for the most part, but there are specific sections of certain songs that he'll probably need to dumb down a bit. While I prefer Portnoy's drumming by a mile, it's undeniable that Mangini has the edge in terms of technical skill. His limb independence and accuracy are on a level above not just Portnoy, but 99% of all drummers.
Yea absolutely not.
Mike Portnoy has more technical skill on the drum kit than Mangini.... without question.
Let's not forget that Dream Theater obviously felt that they needed a great technical drummer to replace Mike Portnoy.
@@castle6660 You're obviously not a drummer yourself 🤣
@@castle6660 hahahaha NO!
@@castle6660big question lol...I've been drumming a long time, I can play Honor Thy Father easily but Not The Alien lmao; you just looked like an idiot there.
They better not ignore songs from Mangini era from their tour setlists. So many epic songs to just forget ever happened.
Yes, I agree. I"ve been watching and listen Mangini's drumming skills in the last 13 years and I can tell you this (on my opinion), he has more speed / complex on the top on the drums. I've always thought, Portnoy's a liitle under on the top (i.e., toms, etc.), while he uses more double kicks as a supplement than Mangini. So...I don't know if Portnoy can copy Mangini's songs during their albums through 2010 - 2023 for the more explicated stuff. We'll never know until we hear it.
They won't do that, and all these guys are friends. Portnoy is more than capable of learning any part out there, by MM, or anyone else! Everyone is acting like there's some huge gap between them, and there's not. Anyways, if there's really a trick part, he can call him up, or go jam with him and go over it ..
Every Musician puts their own stamp on things no matter what. I am not a fanboy of DT, Mangini, nor Portnoy, but I have been listening to some of their stuff again recently, and they both bring something the other doesn't have, and they both can perform at a very high level, but yes there are some things Mangini did that Portnoy will do differently. And after listening to a few tunes from both again, man Mangini is top 1% in tightness and ability...I am thinking if RUSH ever wanted to do something again, Mangini would be the perfect fit to replace the late great Niel Peart
I hope he'll play MM part with his own style, groove and fun touch.
He most probably won't, He will played it exactly like on the album. DT said that's the way they expected MM to play MP part because it's what's on the recording and or record! each composition are arranged and agreed upon by ALL members of DT so they said they like to keep the integrity of the songs they created.
@@veger2001HAHAHA! Do you really think Portnoy is going to even THINK about practicing MM songs? He'll just RLRLKKRL everything. It will be sad to see and hear 😢
@@rubenfe91Well I guess we will know soon enough..
Portnoy is more than capable of learning any part out there. I didn't see what all the balking is about
My thoughts on this: as a technical mangini is far beyond portnoy, so do I think portnoy will do manginis parts as is.. no. An example, when portnoy was playing with Derek Sherinian they did Atlantis which Virgil donati did drums on the recording, the way some of the drum parts are crafted are not in portnoys comfort zone, so he redid them in a way to make them comfortable to his style and still work for the song. I think he’ll do the same with manginis parts, anything that is outside his comfort zone he’ll redo in a way to make sense with his playing. Nothing wrong with that though.
Thanks for writing this. Interesting. (Plus, it does not devalue any current or ex band member - that is a great personal value...)
plus Portnoy has mentioned a couple of times that he is not that kind of drummer to play something as it is, to replicate drummings as it is, he'll do what he does best, to play in his own style that's as close as possible to the original.
So what? He'll do his interpretation. That's what a musician does, and is supposed to do. He's more than capable of learning any part out there.
The most likely scenario for DT’s future is that they will put together a setlist with the classics and a few of the tunes from the new album they are recording right now, unfortunately the mangini era will be hardly performed live because the fans want nostalgia and at the same time the band is getting older so it’s financially better for them to live off of their classics like most big bands do nowadays.
It's true. I'm a huge Megadeth fan, have been since 87. Seen them a couple dozen times, at least once on every tour since then. But, that slowed down drastically since they essentially play the same set of songs on every tour. They are playing all the songs casual fans know, with a couple of newer ones. Many fans stopped listening after the 90's, even though they've put out great albums since.
But, to appease a newer audience, they have to play a set list of their "hits." And being that they only play a hour, there is no room for songs for the hardcore fan. They ignore 3-4 albums completely and its ashame.
Like you said, Dream Theater will play everything pre-2010, along with new material and ignore most of the last 13 years.
Well said.
In my opinion, when fans get nostalgic it usually becomes very toxic.
@@humptydumpty109 I completely agree. "Nostalgia fans" usually hold bands back.
My guess is theyll avoid MM hardest drum parts/songs on the first tour. MM is a superior drummer, whereas MP is a better artist.
Both Mikes are great but all I know as a drummer myself is it is easier to play Portonys material compared to Mangini probably because I have played MP material for a longer period of time. Regardless I am jacked Portnoy is back and am looking forward to their new material. They are both great and please dont compare them because they have different styles. Dream Theater for life... music with substance!
Like others have said MP could do MM parts , but in his own way. From purely a technical point of view MM is on another level. His speed and coordination is very advanced , especially when you consider that he constantly executes his fills and grooves exactly, night after night when on tour. That takes some serious skills. Mike Portnoy is a fantastic drummer, (i actually prefer his playing over MM) but lets be real, whether you like MM or not, he is an absolute machine.
Jason Rullo is much more technical than Portnoy and much more groovy than Mangini. Jason Rullo is The Winner!!!
He is friends with Mangini, so yes if he needs help, Mike can help Mike play Mikes parts that Mike created to fill in for Mike, while Mike was out of the band, who Mike helped found. Then Mike wanted to come back to his roots where Mike had to blend Mikes ideas and theory’s with Mikes original style to fill the void the Mike left, when he left.
Hahaha
Your taking the Mick..aren't you 😊
The game turned to Mike Portnoy. If before it was Mangini who needed to wear the shoes worn by Portnoy for 25 years, now it is Portnoy who needs to wear the shoes worn by Mangini for 13 years. Unlike Iron Maiden who only had 2 albums recorded by another musician until the return of the original singer, the same happened with Judas Priest, Dream Theater had 5 studio albums recorded, all of them excellent and one Grammy-winning song. It's a lot of history to ignore, so Mike Portnoy will certainly have to learn a little from Mike Mangini. It will be very interesting to see The Alien played by Mike Portnoy.
EASY
@@glockmaster77you're joking?
"Unlike Iron Maiden who only had 2 albums recorded by another musician until the return of the _original singer..."_
Wait, when did Paul Day returned to Iron Maiden? Or Dennis Wilcock, or Paul Di'Anno...?
They have a huge enough library already with Portnoy-drummed songs. So the setlists will probably contain majority songs he knows, with the addition of a few Mangini songs which Portnoy will play comfortably handle with enough practice. (in his style of course) Not to mention they will tour off a fresh batch of brand new songs on top of it. It's not like he's going to precisely try to play his parts note by note anyway. MP is a very smart and capable drummer, so all the haters can criticize all they want. I guarantee he will gel as if he never even left.
@@glockmaster77 fanboy detected
I'm very accustomed to Mike Mangini in DT - Got really mixed feelings about their decision to move forward without him 😕
My personal opinion, Mangini makes DT new while Portnoy makes DT old, they accept them because they just want to maintain there popularity with Portnoy
Nothing but love for Portnoy. His DT/Liquid Tension drum VHS was how I learned to play drums, but does anybody else think it’s weird that after 13 years Port wants back in the year after they won their first Grammy?
It's fair to wait for that album and the live performances and then start what the "fans" did to MM for 13 years in reverse, right? Justice for MM.
No. As good as Portnoy is, He does not has the abilities to play Mangini’s parts note for note. They are very different players and their approach to drumming is very different. Dream Theater to my ears became a better band song wise with Mangini, but that is my opinion. I never was really into DT until he got into the band. But that is because I have always preferred Mangini’s playing over Portnoys. Everyone had their own opinion on this subject, but as a drummer myself, from a purely technique side of the drums, Portnoy is in for a lot of woodshedding. But, maybe he will play the material in his way. I wish him and the band the best.
Both drummers are at the very pinnacle of drumming excellence and virtuosity. Personally I prefer the musicality of Mangini's drumming. Just my opinion but there it is. 😀
He can do it, but in his own style. As well as Mangini played Portnoy's songs in his style. I acknowledge the technical virtuoso that Mangini is, but when I saw him play the old songs...it seemed too robotic for my taste, Portnoy has some feeling in the way he plays.
I was thinking about this topic the last couple of days. I have some Mangini favorite songs, Illumination Theory, Pale Blue Dot, Awaken the Master...brilliant tracks...only time will tell how will Portnoy print his style on them.
In the end it is not possible to fairly compared them both. Each of them has his own druming, artistic and musical style, both great.
It only seems robotic bc they used a click track live. Mangini is a way better drummer any real musician knows that.
@@treefrog3560 Yes, but the better player was not always the better fit. Besides, Mangini’s been playing with much more life since he departed from DT.
@@treefrog3560no it’s the way he set up his drums. Heck he need two hi hats because the way he assemble it didn’t allow it to be fully closed so he put another one next to it and lock it tight, and he put it so far up there it’s to unergonomic to groove it with dynamic close level or hit strength level. It’s the missing dynamics like this that made him sounds like a midi track. The mixing and the tuning didn’t help either, even if all of these are fixed, he still need to fix his monotonous ride/hi-hats stroke
His timing is impeccable, not robotic.
Jason Rullo is much more technical than Portnoy and much more groovy than Mangini. Jason Rullo is The Winner!!!
Everyone knows that Portnoy cant play Manginis drumparts (except Portnoy fanboys...) The more interesting question is in what key they are going to play all the old songs since mr LaBrie is having a really hard time singing live. "Pull me under" in drop C?
Mike Portnoy is a great drummer. But if you listened to him playing even after leaving DT and playing with other projects or band, in terms of of drumming there's nothing new he's bringing nor has evolved in his playing.
Whereas if you have listened Mike Mangini even from way before Dream theater, he was always adapting and evolving to each band or their style and bringing creativity.
Everyone loves the flavor Mike Portnoy has with the band, his role is beyond being a band member and hence able to express freely.
Whereas for Mike Mangini, it's only in the last 2 albums he got to play and express freely, which turned out to be brilliant. The drumming for "The Alien", it's something still I haven't seen any drummers cover perfectly.
Looking forward to what's in store ahead for DT, wishing the best
Mangini is a complete alien when it comes to independence and I feel Mike will struggle, but will put his own feel to it.
I enjoy the detail that you get into, speaking about these various Rock scenarios.
But no one seems to be speaking about the DAY AFTER Mangini was out of DT, he releases two fully realized, sublimely produced tracks with players from some of the most elite Rock Acts in the Business, playing more accessible, radio friendly Rock. The whole album will be released in early November.
Plus, from a Production perspective, I've never heard Mangini's drums sound so epic. Coincidence? You're the Music Journalist; inquiring minds want to know.
Loved MP since I was a kid, but his attitude man.. his departure reason was way more than that but this is when his ego is bigger than anything. Meanwhile DT appointed MM, I'm starting to love this guy event though it's hard to move on. ADToE, self-titled and The Astonishing album was "okay", but MM technique really slaps me on Distance Over Time. Plus he has this nice-genuine-friendly attitude. I really feel sorry for what happen to MM, but there's no way DT will going back to the glory days even they brought MP back. He is done.
He will make the tunes his own, and sprinkle his own nuances in the songs, with his splashes, max stax, octobans and signature fills, there is some drummers here on RUclips, who play the new songs, but as if Mike portnoy wrote them. The answer is yes! He will make these newer songs tasty in his own fashion 😊
Hell yeah ! some of MM parts are mere gimmicks (with all do respect) bc hes a world class musicians but he also a showman.
Don't forget MM struggle to play some Portnoy parts like the 6 O'Clock intro and many others .
I feel like Portnoy is good enough to where he could easily figure out unique takes the mangini era songs. I can see Portnoy playing Bridges in the Sky, Breaking All Illusions, The Looking Glass, Surrender to Reason, Our New World, At Wits End, The Alien, and Transcending Time.
He can't play the Alien exactly!?
He doesn't have that level of skill
Jason Rullo is much more technical than Portnoy and much more groovy than Mangini. Jason Rullo is The Winner!!!
@@aarondiaz1433 i mean he could probably come up with a new way to play it that fits his style.
I think Mike Portnoy's only weakness is that he can't do blast beats.
For me mangini still the best for DT, because in Mangini eras DT have a grammy which is in portnoy era DT doesn't have
I believe mangini really love play for DT but unfortunetly, they kick out him
Both are outstanding musicians and this is a new chapter for the band take it or leave it . I am honestly very happy to know that Portnoy is back ,Is because of him I became a fan of DT, can’t wait to see them live !!
I heard this analogy about these two great drummers and I think it is absolutely perfect. Portnoy’s drumming is poetry while Mangini’s is grammar.
No way in the world can Portnoy play Mangini's parts. Just not possible. Mangini is on another level technically. You will see.
After MIke P creates his next album with the band I would like to see a calibration with Both drummers Mike P on main drums and Mike M on percussion with the band Backed up by an orchestra!
I don't think he'll have too many issues. He's completely capable of execution of the parts. People quickly forget what Portnoy is capable of because he's a different type of drummer where he can be quite restrained at times and play in service of the composition over playing chops for chops sake.
I think the technical challenge he faces is not whether he can play the parts or not. (frankly it's stupid to assume he couldn't, he's been doing this sort of thing since most of you were still spunk in your daddy's ball bag) Rather , I'd imagine the difficulty arises from the way he likes his kit setup Vs the way Mangini has his kits setup .
So there's logistical complications you might say. This was also a challenge Mangini had to navigate coming into DT.
So he'll do what both of them do which is to do his homework and work through the problems and setup a new kit that allows him to tackle Mangini's parts as faithfully as possible while allowing him to remain comfortable to perform in the way he likes to play .
I think he'll love the challenge to be honest. It'll be fun. That's the sort of Conditions these sorts of players thrive in.
Of course he can, he fucking Mike Portnoy 🤘🔥❤️
They should take a page out of the late great chris ledoux. His band, Western Underground, had two drummers. They called it the "two headed monster" Can you imagine what the DT guys could come up with having both Portnoy and Mangini on the stage at the same time and the rythm patterns they could come up with?!
I first saw DT live at the Brixton Afadamy on the Awake tour. This was back in the Derrick Sherinian days. Instantly fell in love with Portnoys drumming. He has always been an incredibly musical drummer. When he left DT, i was gobsmacked and wondered how anyone would ever fill those rather large shoes. I had heard of Mangini from the world record attemps etc. Fast forward to 2024 and it's obvious that Mangini is a more technical drummer than Portnoy. Less musical, but more technical. I think Portnoy will struggle on songs like Pale Blue Dot and The Alien. I hope I'm wrong but they don't call Mangini the human drum machine for nothing.
Whether Portnoy can execute Mangini's drumming - frankly, I don't think so. I expect a DT that is more sloppy and with a Portnoy that is more concerned with his own show than getting the band to sound their best. In other words... I will very much miss Mangini in DT
Portnoy is more than capable of learning any part out there, by mm or otherwise.
The alien drums by mangini is hard to learn
0:00 - 2:29 contextualisation
2:30 "In my opinion -->" proceeds to dodge the question
Honestly, I don't want him to play those songs as played Mangini. I'd prefer if he played them in his own Portnoy style, which is a million miles way better.
Who plays drums on DT’s latest album, who did the studio work
DT is great with both Mikes. There are some bands where it doesn’t feel right with new or returning members, but both Mikes felt right to me as a listener of 20+ years. Mangini is a god of drum set playing. Portnoy was and kind of still is the beating heart of DT. It’s impossible to dismiss any of his contributions as founder and showman. I’m looking forward to the next few years. They’re still not old. They still have plenty of life left.
Mangini is a god of drum set playing. A deaf who never heard Thomas Lang. Even MP is better than MM in all-around drumming.
Can Mike Portnoy Execute Mike Mangini's Drum Part ? - Hold my beer.....................sorry I meant tea.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how MP spares the parts written by MM, as MM kept skimping on the best parts of MP's drumming, such as classic fills, the use of certain effect plates, etc., thus often completely gutted the tone in most of the songs that MP felt perfect.
People really acting like he sat on his thumbs the last 13 years, or that he forgot how to be awesome.
He was busy the last 13 years but his playing, unlike Mangini, hasn't evolved in decades. Just watch Portnoy's most recent solo with one of his bands...same stuff from the 90s - even with all the availability of new styles and techniques behind the kit he hasn't introduced anything new.
Whatever he was playing, in those years, called for what was needed.
He's not some intermediate drummer, by any means. And he's more than capable of learning any part out there. There's not some huge gap between the two. They are both world class.
IMO - James Labrie's vocal range does not go as high on their latest albums (Mangini era), so I think that he (Labrie) would opt to not pick the older stuff when he did have the ability to go as high. Then again, the setlists are not entirely up to one man alone. Portnoy will just put his spin on Mangini's pieces. This will be interesting
Literally NOTHING in this video could even remotely be called a "deepdive" into DT's histoty let alone did you discuss or try to answer the leading question (seriously, title and description are beyond misleading if not straight up lying). What an absolute waste of 3min.
Yes
Yes, it also will be fun to hear.
tbh as much I love Mangini, there are not many memorable parts he created. Dramatic turn of events and self-titled albums were the only ones I truly enjoyed Mangini's drumming, still complained about how weak the drum sound is, which was not a drumming issue it was recording or mixing issue. The albums released after these 2 albums, I think I'm going to blame Petrucci for that, it felt way too repetitive and very difficult to memorize. Portnoy, if he plays these songs live, he'll probably address this issue and attempt to create engagement with the songs.
Bro didn’t even answer the question 😂
I don't think Portnoy able to execute Mangini drumming parts
After all those songs that Mike Portnoy had made,no doubt for him
I think Portnoy is going to surprise a lot of people by how well (and accurately) he'll play Mangini's parts. To be fair, Mangini didn't play Portnoy's part 100% accurate, so even if there is some alteration, I'm okay with that. But only time will tell and Portnoy has stated he'll play whatever songs DT wants him to play. They're not about to leave out 5 albums of material because (Portnoy can't play it right), I'll keep the faith until I see otherwise.
i think all we will see in the future is a "Dream Theater-Tribute" Band with nothing but the old songs. MP is too lazy learning all the new ones
Na, it's alread on record that he's willing to play whatever the other guys in DT want him to play. If it's one thing that Mike Portnoy is not, it's lazy.@@keysersoze9511
Not going to matter. They will play their Portnoy classics plus their new album. And If they do play any songs from Mangini period he will be able to play most of the parts and adapt his style to what he cant. Going to be cool 👍
To answer the title question. Yes! With his eyes closed and a beer in his left hand.
it would be cool to see them both at portonoys big monster 2 throne kit at the same time
Probably the only one to match Mike Mangini note for note on the drums has to be Marco Minnemann. In fact he was the drummer chosen to replace Mike Portnoy after the auditions, not Mike Mangini. Minnemann refused since he wasn't really keen on joining the band. He did this purely to test and have fun during the whole thing. Mangini was the second choice and the third choice was Darkane's drummer Peter Wildoer. As much prolific and highly technical as Mangini is, I would still rate Marco on a slightly higher level and it was evident that Dream Theater members thought so too. The man can play anything ranging from Carnatic Jazz to Death Metal (he toured with Necrophagist). He is also a multi-instrumentalist and a composer. No wonder James LaBrie remarked about Marco as being an absolutely phenomenal drummer. He has the same technical proficiency as Mangini while he plays with a lot of feel, soul and dynamics as Portnoy.
I always jokingly thought his cookie monster shirt at the "audition" was a clash of personalities.
Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Vinnie Colaiuta, Bobby Jarzombek, el stepario siberiano, Jason Rullo. ALL of this drummers can play Mangini stuffs
Mangini is a special case in drumming. I believe Mike's mind just works different when it comes to drumming. I don't doubt Portnoy is up to the challenge, though. Have you seen Mangini's solo from 15 years ago though? Insane. ruclips.net/video/Oe8XKgOuNtk/видео.html
I'm just wondering how many more years, and how many more albums Dream Theater has in them. I mean they're certainly not spring chickens anymore. Pretty much every member is 60 (heck Jordan Rudess is almost 70)...then again the Rolling Stones just released a new album and the members of that band are 80, so maybe, hopefully DT still has "plenty of gas left in the tank"
They dont have to play those songs
They wrote history with Portnoy
They survived with MM :D
Yes, absolut👌👍
Why is this even a question?! Even with a Grammy win the Mangini years were not that good. If they were, he'd still be in the band. They (DT) shot themselves in the foot when they fired Portnoy and everyone knows it. Mangini's good but when it comes to creativity, he's not in the same league as Portnoy. Again, if he was, he wouldn't have gotten the boot. I'm going to miss the Winery Dogs, That band created music you want to listen to every day.
He will not be able to duplicate them. Remember Portnoy was a Berkeley student, Mangini was a teacher.
Dangerous waters. The band had to be careful not to be hypocrites. Thet told all the auditioning drumners that MP's parts need yo be played pretty much the same as the records vecause they argued that is what cans expected to hear. If that argumebt remains true, then MP needs to be held to that same standard if considering playing MM's parts.
I wonder. What song is the most difficult Grooves that MM create in DT?
Man they just all want to get the band back together while they can. MP and MM both one of a kind players enjoy.
First of all, there is a lie in this video: Mike Portnoy left DT not because he wanted to play in several other bands - he played quite successfully in many side projects before his departure from DT. He left because he felt that the working climate at DT had become far from perfect and the band should take a break, and also because he felt that the previous 10 years of intensive work in so many areas of the band's activities had brought him personally to the verge of burnout.
As for his ability to play all those Mangini's drum parts, I'm sure he can, but to be honest, I don't give a shit: Mangini didn't really respect Portnoy's legacy and easily changed his parts as he wanted, including such significant ones as the final drum solo in "Finally Free", which Mangini I would say "ruthlessly murdered". So I will be very happy if Mike Portnoy will play the songs of the Mangini era with completely his own parts created from scratch.
Sounds about right!!
Facts about why many long time fans despise Mangini. Everyone was excited and very positive until they saw him live and how he plays in records. Nobody questioned Mangini’s skills but the way he “deliberately” oversimplified grooves and overplayed the others that made the musics so disjointed unlike usual which is probably one of the biggest hook/appeal of the band’s musics. Whoever does that, backlash is the only response. Rudess does that in few occasions too toards Moore’s keyboard part and I hate that too
@scylla4342 I tried to give mangini a chance in dt but i watched some live stuff and heard album work and it feels soulless and live he and his kit sound awful.
The picture at 1:24 is creeping me out!!! Wtf!!!
is MP going to put his cymbals 8' from the ground now?
He will play with it's own style, less robot, much more feeling
Yes.
There is no comparison Mike Portnoy will never succeed in playing MM’s parts even he will have 10000 lives. Mangin is alien being perfect metronome Portnoy came from Earth with his personality and showman attitude. That’s my humble opinion God bless you all
Well, I'm sure he's not playing all the Mangini albums back to back on his return... They'll likely incorporate some songs little by little... The song catalogue is too inmense to just focus on learning all the Mangini songs. That said, I cant wait to hear his take on those songs.
Mike or mike? Yes. I like mike
Play the best off the new album, play the classics, and play just the “hits” from the Mancini era. . I don’t even like the Alien. Pick off these three albums only, ADTOE, Dream Theater self titled and Distance Over Time
I don't think it'll matter. I doubt they'll be playing many songs from the Mangini era. just my feelings
Portnoy is like an excellent student but Mangini is always the TEACHER, I can’t wait to watch how Portnoy approaches the crazy homework….NO WAY to avoid!
P.S. I watched a lot more of Mike Mangini after Portnoy announced to rejoin the band.
I would say yeah he will be able to. Although we are talking to different types of drummers and in neurology. If you don't use, you could loose it. NOt sure how that's going to go. Only time will tell now; when the perform again. Hope it's not so. All the Best Mike Portnoy. Glad you threw it all; as water under the bridge.
No way he can pull off the one handed stuff Mangini did but I’d rather hear Portnoy’s spin on those songs anyway.
Of course he can play them,there are drum covers on you tube of those songs.The thing is will he want to sit down and learn them so he can reacreate them faithfully?I dont think so because he is not that guy..He does that with his own drum parts as well....He almost never plays them exactly like the album version,apart from some iconic fills,the rest are pretty much improvisation with each performance
MP is Dream Theater and he knows how DT create music. So there´s no reason to be worried abt it.
Portnoy being able to play Mangini's parts note for note is so unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Being able to play his classic DT tunes and create new ones of a similarly memorable stature.... that's what counts.
Exactly! What most of its fans loves about the band was classics like those from Images and Words and epics from Scenes from a Memory, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Octavarium, In The Presence of Enemies, Ministry of Lost Souls, Counts of Tuscany, etc.
But Mangini was expected to play Portnoy parts correctly so why not the other way ??
@@aarondiaz1433 yea sure but you forgot the fact that after more than 10 years he still failed playing Portnoy’s parts note for note
@@aarondiaz1433because all their hits and best songs are co-written by portnoy.
This headline can't be serious!!
Portnoy ditched the band for his only personal endeavours. The band was very very sad to be betrayed after all those years just for personal gain. Now he shows up and they immediatly boot Mangini just to get their old flame back? Portnoy is iconic. But he screwed them. They should have said no. They went for money and fame rather than loyalty.
Agree 100%.
Well it's not like they have anything else going for them. Rudess, Petrucci, and Myung have been going through the motions for years, and LaBrie sounds like a pig being tortured. The ONLY move Dream Theater had left was to pull at the nostalgic heartstrings of their older fans.
There are a lot of questions that come across by fans and youtube influencers who do not know the history of DT. I will finish with this, Portnoy has 10 long play albums, with songs averaging 20 minutes in length each, plus, they intend to write a new album, and then tour. To ask if he will be able to play the Mangini era of music, THEY DONT NEED TO! With Portnoy, just with his catalog spanning from 1989-2009, they have far too much music to worry about that even within one show, even without new music coming up next year. The reviews that I have seen on the net are mind boggling. Trust me, if they did choose Mangini era music, Portnoy could handle it no problem, he has a photographic memory, anyhow, I find these to be silly questions. Think of it like this, David Lee Roth rejoined Van Halen in the mid 2000's, they played NO Sammy era music live, they didnt need to. cheers!
I think many of the fans would want to see Mangini era music. It would be an odd decision to just erase 13 years of DT history. They have played music from all of their albums, despite changing band members, so why would they stop now?
Of course Portnoy will be able play the songs of Mangini, and like Mangini, I am sure he will interpret them in his own way.
But fans loves the songs fro. mm era, aren't they going to satisfy their fans then?
Silly question, asking it is don't kwowing the guy... Is Mangini execute well Portnoy's parts ? Well, every musician is different, you always play better something you create yourself. Portnoy will improve by learning songs from the last 13 years, i'm really curious to listen to his play on that.
There will be a very limited space during Dream Theater future livesets for Mangini-eran songs I'm sure. And The Alien will most likely not be one of them, Grammy Award or not! I'm hoping that they focus on legacy and new music!
I wouldn’t put it past portnoy to learn mangini’s free hand technique. Don’t count him out.
DT might not evolve with potnoy's comeback. Also, MM is on a different level with DT latest songs.
It’s a good question specially winning there 1st Grammy !!
I believe that Mike will practice what mangini has recorded!! But I saw the band and I’m a huge fan and mangini didn’t play 110% on 80% of Portnoy recordings !!! They are both amazing artists and have a lot of respect towards each other!! Personally, what mangini has done since portnoy left , definitely was a big shoes to keep the band going!!
Everyone has their own journey in life!! It’s like in the 80’s glam pop world when a singer does 1 or 2 albums and toured around the globe!! And now it’s a Solo career!!
Few years pasts and , next the return to last band !!
I definitely think that portnoy will smash it with ease because it’s Mike Portnoy!!!
2 of the most amazing musicians in this genre who can play anything and 110% perfection!! Iv seen it happened in both artists with past projects and current!!
Mangini with his incredible limbs speed that most drummers have trouble with 2 hands !! So what practice practice and more practice nothing is impossible for any artists in any type of instrument!!
Keep on rocking and ❤
actually him cannot.. for sure, mangini's part it's to hard for duplicate.
I love both of them. But as Mike Mangini took over, the three part harmony vocals were lost
Do not underestimed HIM behind the scène is follow DT all this years this is the best drummer On Earth
Of course, he can. Portnoy hasn't stopped playing the drums since he left. He's still an amazing drummer whether he's in Dream Theater or not.
Cause He hasn't stopped playing Drums makes him able to Play manginis parts? Of course He can't. Mangini is in a another universe
Mangini played Portnoy's music with his own flair. I'm sure Portnoy will do the same with Mangini's music.
They should keep both drummers.
That's not actually the reason he "left". Lol At least, that's not what his interviews have said that I've watched.
No, but he’ll play them his way. You can see where he got with Derek Sherenian and Tony McAlpine and played some Planet X covers. Could he play Virgil Donati parts as recorded, fuck no! Did he hold it down and make it sound good, yes! MP is a pro
Question should have been could Mangini play Portnoy's drum parts? Barely 😂
Portnoy is gonna make the Mangini stuff even better...because he is not a robot metronome...prepare to be amazed.