Designing a Mega Drum Set with Mike Mangini - EP 230

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • Mike Mangini is famous for being an incredibly talented drummer and teacher, but also for creating some of the most elaborate and breathtaking drum sets of all time. He breaks down his first kit, which he used with Extreme, consisting of RotoToms in an 'Apex Shape.' Then, we jump to his 2010s Dream Theater kit, which was a modern marvel of drum set engineering. After that, we discuss his current kit, used for his great new album, 'Invisible Signals,' and learn about the WHY and HOW he creates the design and shape of these kits.
    Mike also shares how his passion for science, math and the human brain influences his choices when it comes to building his kits and performing.
    Mike will be doing a Masterclass tour across the USA in February and March 2024 - check out his site to learn more about that and all things Mangini!
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Комментарии • 72

  • @OliKember
    @OliKember 8 месяцев назад +5

    Incredible that Mike used maths and programming to create his unique style. Thanks for having him on! Such an inspiration.

  • @modmlot
    @modmlot 8 месяцев назад +12

    Excellent interview Bart. I was fortunate to be Mike’s drum tech for a handful of drum clinics in early 2000’s. Great all round guy, hilariously funny,….but sharp, laser focused when he sat behind the kit.

    • @IraSiegel
      @IraSiegel 8 месяцев назад +1

      That's awesome.

  • @Stoovey24
    @Stoovey24 8 месяцев назад +7

    I see people online complain about others drummers having bigger kits, as if it's not necessary. It kind of bothers me, both the audacity of telling someone else what they should or shouldn't do, plus the lack of imagination in thinking outside of the box as far as kit design.
    I have a huge kit and like to set it up in different configurations to test my ability and creativity.

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  8 месяцев назад +4

      I agree with that, I think everyone should only care about what set that have and be positive about other folks drums. I used to have a 12 piece Ludwig setup and I loved moving it around and experimenting. That is half the fun!

    • @Tryggvasson
      @Tryggvasson Месяц назад +1

      absolutely agree. i never got the flak mangini took for this kit, i think it's the best kit in the history of drumming. it's like they were envious that portnoy was outdone or something. i've watched many a mangini performance, and he judiciously uses every single piece. not that it's anybody's business what somebody decides to play, like you've said. i didn't like it that he took after those comments and changed his kits. i think this too much modesty is something that works against him sometimes.

  • @kspocketngroove3973
    @kspocketngroove3973 8 месяцев назад +7

    i love how Mike restrains himself from saying "dream theater" or talk about it😂, still hurting

  • @robertdirocco1885
    @robertdirocco1885 8 месяцев назад +17

    I felt that big exhale from Mike when he heard Dream Theater in the band listings

    • @dawnshaw101
      @dawnshaw101 8 месяцев назад +8

      It hurts inside still😢

    • @crusher0427
      @crusher0427 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@dawnshaw101, he should still be there.

    • @nickentros
      @nickentros 5 месяцев назад +1

      He didn't do anything wrong, it's similar to the Red Hot Chili Peppers kicking Josh Klinghoffer out when Frusciante wanted back in. Mangini was the best fit for when Portnoy wasn't an option....but Portnoy IS Dream Theater

    • @shanegriffin2215
      @shanegriffin2215 Месяц назад

      @@nickentrosmoney and popularity is what happened when Portnoy returned. Let’s be honest. But that said, Portnoy is great.

  • @jamesryan5499
    @jamesryan5499 8 месяцев назад +10

    I went to school with Mike..Good for you Brother..AMAZING DRUMMER..

  • @josephgiarraffa6379
    @josephgiarraffa6379 8 месяцев назад +6

    A very special being is what I get out of Mike Just deep !! Like the greatest Buddy Rich said “You can’t get inside my mind”

  • @aZeddPrattFilm
    @aZeddPrattFilm 8 месяцев назад +2

    What incredible timing. Just talked about him on the podcast “SNARE’D”. I also can’t help but laugh about the fastest drummer in the world played for Extreme😂

  • @shanegriffin2215
    @shanegriffin2215 8 месяцев назад +7

    One of the most incredible players to ever live. Great interview!

    • @vincegedeon6583
      @vincegedeon6583 8 месяцев назад

      So incredible that I've never heard of him lol

  • @PowerTom_kyle
    @PowerTom_kyle 8 месяцев назад +9

    Mike looks great! Keeping large kits alive! Sometimes bigger kits are just better. :)

    • @jeetlahkar894
      @jeetlahkar894 8 месяцев назад +1

      Bigger *its are ALWAYS better!

  • @gsprta
    @gsprta 8 месяцев назад +2

    Whew! I bet his mind never rests.

  • @jazzban
    @jazzban 8 месяцев назад +4

    Using this great platform just to kindly ask, What happened to DRUMHEAD magazine? Mangini was on the cover of the Superdtummers issue and now myself and all the subscribers or those who have bought issues are not able to access this greet source of information. I know they stopped making the magazine but still I am very much onto old Modern Drummer issues which I absolutely LOVE. So we need all of the issues back. I have contacted the digital platform and they answered it is down because it is not paid for the app maintenance or something in that sense. If we are to make donations, buy the magazine or whatever let Mover say so and we will help. But this is really not correct. Thank you Bart for doing a really sophisticated content in the years of insta drumming❤

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hey man, that is a very good question and it seems like a common theme with magazines these days. I wish I had an answer on DRUMHEAD specifically - I did an episode on drum magazines with Earl Bennett and he may have mentioned something about it but that episode was from last year so things may have changed. I’d check that out and maybe find his channel and see if he has any updates. I wish I could be more helpful - thank you for the kind words!

  • @DWRhythm
    @DWRhythm 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is awesome! Mangini and I have more in common than I realized! Great stuff, my man!

  • @thexman007
    @thexman007 8 месяцев назад +2

    Loving the intertwining of science/maths and music. Talking about thinking out of the box. Looking at things from a different perspective.
    Is Mike Mangini the all-rounded-musician?

  • @academaciated7466
    @academaciated7466 8 месяцев назад +4

    And Mike says: “I was good enough...” Classic ❤

  • @drumdiscussion7776
    @drumdiscussion7776 8 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks Bart and Mike for an inspiring view of the musical creative thought process. It begins with the brain, the training and the tools for your percussive performance. Our instrument is unique personally as an extension of the music we interpret.❤

  • @drummerdan95
    @drummerdan95 8 месяцев назад +2

    Didn't know you were a fellow Cincy resident! Lol. Already secured my spot at the Badges masterclass, I can't wait.

  • @GeMannAlois
    @GeMannAlois 7 месяцев назад +1

    👍👍❤❤

  • @SPACEMAN_fkYT
    @SPACEMAN_fkYT 8 месяцев назад +1

    When you're at the top of the mountain you can roll boulders down on your haters.

  • @JackNiles
    @JackNiles 8 месяцев назад +4

    Wow man. This is awesome!

  • @joelcarrier2088
    @joelcarrier2088 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great episode. Because of this interview I found out about Mike’s masterclass tour. Just bought a ticket to his Pittsburg class. Can’t wait. Btw, Bart you have in the description of this video as Mike touring in Feb, March of 2022. Just a heads up. Love your channel.

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hey Joel! Good catch man, thanks for letting me know about the typo. Have fun at the Master Class my friend!

  • @trafalgerdavis7839
    @trafalgerdavis7839 8 месяцев назад +19

    This will be considered a knock against Portnoy - because we're all thinking it - but Mangini is hands down a better technical drummer then Portnoy. I have to say, I have lost more respect of Portnoy and DT as a whole a long time ago; Portnoy can't solo to save his life (meaning they have no depth or real veracity), though his sense of time and some riffs are really good. But Mangini is a real drummer, who lives and breathes it and can play anything. I think Portnoy will be afraid to play most of what Mangini put down with DT, simply because he does not have the facility for it. It is a shame how he got booted out the group for an obvious nostalgia bump by DT. Guess old dogs need bones too.

    • @asabovesobelow2299
      @asabovesobelow2299 8 месяцев назад +6

      Men.... Mangini is miles away from portnoy and so much many drummers. He is so good!

    • @IraSiegel
      @IraSiegel 8 месяцев назад +3

      This is true and I'm a longtime Mangini fan but don't forget it is Portnoy's band. Totally different feel with MP.

    • @crusher0427
      @crusher0427 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@IraSiegel, just because his father suggested the name doesn't make it "his band."

    • @IraSiegel
      @IraSiegel 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@crusher0427 He was part of the founding of Majesty which became DT. Was Mangini in the band in ‘85?

    • @crusher0427
      @crusher0427 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@IraSiegel, you know the answer to your question, so I don't know what you are arguing about. Was he a founder of the band? Yes. Does that make it his band? No. Remember, he walked away in 2010.

  • @RandyHanley
    @RandyHanley 8 месяцев назад +2

    Incredible interview.

  • @markr.devereux3385
    @markr.devereux3385 2 месяца назад

    I first saw Terry Bozzio and his proto type super-sized kit at a 1985 missing persons concert. I thought it was a great gimmick and Terry was ripping some serious fills on the amazing kit. He seemed quite proud of his creation and I see now what it takes to enter that level of design. It's a project that must make a drummer more neurotic than they already are❤

  • @user-mw3mb2uv8n
    @user-mw3mb2uv8n 6 месяцев назад

    Mr. Mangini, I watched you in the video “A Drummers Dream” and on one drum kit you are playing on. By the high hit pedal you also had about 6 pedals in total. I’ve asked others and they either never noticed or don’t know.
    So Mr. Mike Mangini, I am not sure if you will answer the question for all the pedals? Thanks for the info, really enjoyed that video.

  • @Noteven0
    @Noteven0 Месяц назад +1

    Mike, was that Methusela or Malthusia?

  • @kiplingtturner
    @kiplingtturner 8 месяцев назад +1

    You could say I have a “mangini”, just kidding love this pod cast be cool

  • @gordonhorn554
    @gordonhorn554 8 месяцев назад +1

    This was awesome.

  • @carbonc6065
    @carbonc6065 8 месяцев назад +1

    Cool!

  • @HoustonRoad
    @HoustonRoad 8 месяцев назад +1

    I wish you could have asked him why his kits got smaller and smaller. The last tour he had a single KD, two rack toms, 3 floor toms and if I remember correctly just 2 or 3 Octabans on a stand near the hi hats. Not a big kit at all. Was it more about cost or something else?

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 8 месяцев назад

      If I remember, the band asked him to do that.

    • @HoustonRoad
      @HoustonRoad 8 месяцев назад

      @@danlc95 why would they do that? Will they ask Portnoy to play a small kit? I don’t think so. Wtf, I play what I want and need, if the band doesn’t like it, they can step off. Thanks for the info!!

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 8 месяцев назад

      @@HoustonRoad - Something about them thinking it would be a bit of a gag.

    • @blastbeatsincorporated7875
      @blastbeatsincorporated7875 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@HoustonRoad It was John Petrucci's request specifically. I kinda wonder if it had something to do with touring and recording because having a smaller kit means less work overall but idk. John hasn't had the best track-record with Mike Mangini's drum production, so maybe it was another weird decision in a sea of weird decisions.

  • @zenos.5315
    @zenos.5315 8 месяцев назад +1

    Gonzo size kits are just so impractical.

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 8 месяцев назад

      Not really.
      It's just sound sources. Not sure what the crime is against them.

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 8 месяцев назад

    I live this guy but he reminds me more and more of an Italian mother.

  • @matthewpaluch777
    @matthewpaluch777 7 месяцев назад

    😎👍♥️🇺🇸🥁🔊🎼VIC SALAZAR ROCKS!!!

  • @totigerus
    @totigerus 8 месяцев назад

    Is this the Psychic Friends Network?

  • @gutorov362
    @gutorov362 8 месяцев назад +1

    He's definitely not the humblest one

  • @whitneyryan-ng1cq
    @whitneyryan-ng1cq 2 месяца назад

    He talks in this condescending, weirdly defensive tone. Also, no one ever asked a drummer to follow the melody. A lead vocal shouldn't just follow a guitar melody, so why should a drummer? Orchestral, I get it. What about counterpoint harmony then? Mangini is all about what he can play, not what he should play, which is ultimately why he lost his gig. Phil Rudd is a better drummer.

  • @whitneyryan-ng1cq
    @whitneyryan-ng1cq 8 месяцев назад +8

    I'm sorry, but Mike "God's Gift" Mangini is just insufferably pretentious.

    • @asabovesobelow2299
      @asabovesobelow2299 8 месяцев назад +2

      What?

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 8 месяцев назад +1

      I can't see where.
      I got to hang with him and Doug Smith (Pearl) back in 2001.
      Mike was the coolest guy we ever had come through the shop.