Studio One 5 - Multiple instruments in a single instance of Komplete Kontrol with full Light Guide!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this tutorial, I will show you how to instantiate multiple instruments in a single instance of Komplete Kontrol with full Light Guide Support on your KOMPLETE keyboard! So if you want to save every bit of PC/Mac resource you can while working in your session but don't want to give up your keyboard Light Guide feature, then this video is for you!
I just got my S88 MK2 yesterday and It was one of my question, I found your video at the right time very useful, Thank you
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THANKS SO MUCH !!!!!! I've thought of this so many times seeing that KK have multible outputs but never found out how......aaagain THANKS !!!
Thanks for sharing, great help for understanding how Komplete Kontrol works and how to set it up.
Glad it was helpful! Hope you support my channel by subscribing and liking the video! Cheers!
Thanks! I’ve had an S49 MK2 for around a year and moved up to Komplete 13 CE in June and honestly I had zero idea how to get all of this to work outside of just running separate instances of KK or Kontakt for each midi channel 🤦🏻♂️ or that there was even a Kontakt view within KK to utilize the light guide.. I should read those manuals at a guess. My CPU likes me now. Thanks again!
Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks. Tony... One of the best instructional video on the subject. Very clearly articulated!
Wow, thanks!
I am glad you found it helpful!
Thank you! I would have never figured this out in a million years. lol.
You're very welcome! Happy to help!
Even though I use an arturia keylab, this is very helpful, thanks. I had tried this before but now I can select the channels and tracks at the same time with my controller buttons!
Great to hear!
Very useful!! Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Tony for the tutorial it was really helpful for me. keep up the good work my friend.
Thanks, will do!
Niiice thank u I just ordered Komplete 13 Select for my Studio One V. 5. This is helpful
Call me BIASED but Studio One and Komplete Kontrol are the ultimate combination, in my opinion for whatever that is worth! Enjoy.
@@tonylukashuk4965 yes I completely agree!!
@@tonylukashuk4965 i use both and theyre a match made in heaven.........
i recommend to upgrade later to the standard komplete 13 as this way you get full kontakt rather than kontakt player
incredibly informative sweet!!! Thanks Tony...
Glad it was helpful!
Very clear instructions, Been a good help ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Glad you think so!
THANKS A LOT !!!
ITS FOR KONTAKT INTUMENTS ONLY
BUT WHAT ABOUT OTHER KOMPLETE KONTROL VSTI INSTANCES
If the VST loads into Kontakt, you should be able to do it as shown but there are plenty of exceptions when it comes to 3rd party plugins. Could you be more specific?
He is referring to adding multiple instruments such as Serum on midi channel 1, Omnisphere on midi channel 2, and Massive X on midi channel 3. Quite honestly, I wouldn't load an instance of Kontakt in Komplete Kontrol. It's pointless. Kontakt is it's own host for Kontakt plugins. Komplete kontrol is supposed to be a universal plugin host. Nice video my dude. But adding multiple instruments in Kontakt is elementary.
What if I want to use Diva and Serum?
This didn't show anything most Kontakt users didn't already know.
I don't own these plugins, but if they are nks supported and have light guide support, then it should work as shown in the video. Sorry I can't be more helpful!
Hi, very helpful video. But I didn't understand how to activate the lightguides for my workflow: the lightguides are functioning with highlighted instruments in Kontakt. But when I move to the next instrument in Studio One the lightguides are not following. So have I to activate the lightguides in Kontakt separately for the instrument tracks?
Yes, that is an unfortunate side effect of the fact that Komplete Kontrol is not really well setup for "multi's" (several instruments in one instance of KK) and so I would have to call this method somewhat of a "workaround". Fact is that if you want the keyboard to follow your track selection you really need to stick to one instrument per track. Normally, I don't use multi's for this very reason and I don't have an issue with resources. Cheers.
Dear Tony, this is kostas from Greece. Many thanks for the usefull tutorials you made. I have just took a S61 MK2 and trying to find out how it works.
I have a question for you , you may have the answer. There is a lady spiking every time i make a change in the control buttons of the keyboard. How can i turn this off?
Thanks for reaching out. Not sure what you are asking me when you say, "There is a lady spiking"? This is a typo i guess?
Thank you! very helpful! Now I'm your follower))
Thanks for the sub!
I tried to add a Massive voice/track to my Kontakt instance by clicking on Massive under the grey library tab in my Komplete Kontrol instance to follow your video adding keys but Studio One will not let me add it. I can create other keys voices/tracks but for some reason not Massive. Any idea why? Do I have to create a Massive instance? Also, I do not see a batch window. I am running Studio One 5.4.1 on an iMac.
Wondering how to use the 8 large white opaque oblong buttons...and also colour the mixer LEDs as they follow the DAW..thanks
hey Jono, thanks for the support! Just as context for your questions, are you a Studio One user? Also, do you own an MK1 or MK2 keyboard?
Hi, thanks for a very good and informative video! Good for the CPU. Do you know how to enable the on-screen controls on the Komplete Kontrol keyboard? The lightguide works nice, but the normal instrument controls from the keyboard screen seems to disappear in my screen (it only says Kontakt). I expected the screen to change according to the instrument selected, just as when you have one instrument in Komplete Kontrol - but it doesn’t.
Thanks for reaching out. Sadly, the keyboard controls (assuming you meant the pots/knobs) ONLY work for the first instance and there is no work around such as there is for even updating the light guide. KK was just truly made for single instances it seems. It is the price we have to pay for using multi's in terms of keyboard funtionality.
Thanks for the quick reply! That is what I suspected. At least, I will save time not exploring options that are impossible😀 Thanks!
Was not able to activate the light guide for each instrument. Got it to work only for the initial instrument.
Unfortuneately, you have to manually switch the light guide with the mouse as I showed in the video. It can't be done from the DAW or the keyboard as the keyboard only recognizes the instrument on MIDI 1. It is a workaround really.
@@tonylukashuk4965 How do you get the s49 to change and recognize midi 2,3 ect? I have not found a way to run dif instruments on different mid in komplete kontrol? I can get multiple instruments on it but all on midi 1.
Not sure I follow, So, when you duplicate the tracks, it creates multiple instances of Komplete Kontrol each with the 4 instruments and I'm wondering, why not create 4 instances of KK with each one having only 1 instrument. This way, when track is focus the lights would follow and work as intended. Not sure this is really making KK work in the way I had hoped - i.e. supporting multiple instances and working with my KK S61 with the lights and all. Please help me understand.
True that that each instance could have midi channel changed to listen for any of the 4 instruments assigned by Kontakt multi. But the point of the exercise is to have each instance preconfigured for each of the 4 instruments. So when you change tracks you get the instrument you want without having to mess around. As far as the lights go, the way I show is the only way they work (changing manually). KK was not made for multi's because KK only created integration features to work with midi channel 1. So if you have an instrument you know you need to use knob controls, do that one first! The other 3 will not work. But at least there is the workaround for the light guide which is the most important one for me.
That said, I only did that video as a service to others. I always have separate instances for every instrument and never use multi's for reasons just mentioned. Too much features lost for not enough resource gain to make it worth it.
@@tonylukashuk4965 Thanks Tony, I think your video is useful, but I'll do the same (separate instances). Starting to move away from Kontakt inside DAW and use mutli-Komplete Kontrol Instruments with my S61 keyboard seems to make more sense now ...
SO !! What if you want to use non Kontakt instruments ???
If it isn't a Kontakt instrument, you are out of luck.
Thanks.
You're welcome!
Hi, thanks for the video, is this the only way to do a multi-instrument track with Komplete Kontrol?
I see you open the Komplete Kontrol and then you open a Multi-Instrument Kontakt inside it.
In this case why not opening directly a multi-instrument track with Kontakt?
Thank you
Using KK if preferable for those who own Komplete Keyboards like I do since the light guide doesn't work in Kontakt standalone. But no need for sure otherwise!
@@tonylukashuk4965 Thanks for the answer.
I'd like to know if is there a way to have the lights and all the others features of the mapped instrument on the KK with the multiple tracks.
I explain: if you do a multi-output channel with the KK Instrument, only the first track will have the lights and mapped button as you said but the next (2nd, 3rd and so on) no.
They look like a simple instrument like in Kontakt standalone, no features, no mapped buttons, no lights.
Do you maybe have a solution at this trouble?
Thank you very much
Edoardo
Tony, I searched for you from the NI forum. You seem to be on the ball. Can you help me please with 2 issues. How can I use my new S88 to change articulations of an orchestral library - Say using the buttons on the S88 to change the Abbey Road Foundations? and two, could you from scratch teach us how to use the new "sound variations" in S1 and how I can change articulations in that method? There are no tutorials for beginners on this subject. Just subbed, hit the 🔔 and liked. Thanks
I have BBC by spitfire and the GUI is the same and so I will endeavor to create a tutorial combining S1, BBC and of course my S88 MK2. As for sound variations, I am just wrapping my head around it myself but I am excited about it for sure. Thanks for subbing and the like!
Also just have the S88 a few days...and interested in this requested sound articulations, thanks
Here is a great introductory video done by Presonus on the subject of the new sounds variation feature. I learned a lot. Hope you guys do as well. Cheers.
@@tonylukashuk4965 Hi Tony, the Presonus video (which you never referenced) is the reason I contacted you in the first instance. I didn't quite grasp the numerous sequences and features that Presonus assumed we all knew but didn't. Thanks.
@@citizenworld8094 I understand. It was pretty involved for sure. I will surely get to it sooner or later and will share once I get it vroken don't into more bite sized chunks. Take care.
Perhaps it's user error, but I'm having difficulty routing multi-outputs in a single instance of Komplete Kontrol.
My Specs:
Logic Pro 10.7.7
Late '21 16" MacBook Pro M1 Max.
Komplete Kontrol 2.9.4
Akai MPK-261
It seems like Kontrol, itself, doesn't have a routing menu or the ability to do so. Do I have to perform this through Kontakt? It's very confusing. And I can't find anything online after a couple hours of searching.
What I'd like to do is, for example, while using ONLY ONE instance of KOMPLETE KONTROL, have multiple instruments routed to separate tracks for me to manipulate individually. Is this possible?
Did you not watch much of the video? This is exactly what demonstrated, albeit with Studio One.
@@tonylukashuk4965 haha, yes. I did watch the video but get confused after you selected the drums and you began searching for your bass. How do you let KOMPLETE know that you're switching to the next output? Every time I do this, the first instrument (drums, in your example) changes.
@@tonylukashuk4965 Apologies for the confusion. Also, the question: "Can KONTROL rout multi-outputs on its own, or does it need KONTAKT?" still haunts me. Like, what if I open BATTERY 4 in KONTROL for my first instrument? Can I open KONTAKT in the 2nd and still have them routed to individual tracks?
@@adrianolesnyckyj Seems like you don't have a clear idea of how KK and Kontakt work together and their strengths and weaknesses...This video should clarify for you...
ruclips.net/video/RaU_ad5OUWY/видео.html
@@adrianolesnyckyj ahh. i see. you need to drag the new instrument into empty space below the drums. You are loading on top of the existing so to speak. try minimizing each one as you load them (top right of plugin window). That leaves lots of empty space for you to drag new ones onto/into.
Just wanted to compliment you on your presentation, as it made a lot of things simpler for me as I'm just starting to use NI Instruments, etc. My only question is.. using this method, My kontakt bass is mono and only comes out of the left ear.. I tried adding a mono channel in kontakt routing but guess I just don't understand it all yet.. any help would be appreciated, Thanks
Glad to hear you found it informative. I see what you are saying but I would need more info to help. Are you in a DAW (which one?) or KK standalone? And could you give more more detail on which plugin you are using? I am assuming you have assigned to a track in your DAW?
@@tonylukashuk4965 Thanks for getting back to me. I'm using Studio One 5 Pro, and the plugin in question is the Kontakt Rickenbacker Bass.. Thanks
Hey Rick. So I loaded Rickenbacher Bass and created an output using the batch configuration method I showed in the video and it created a stereo output in the output section of Kontakt. I am assuming this was the case for you as well since you said you later tried to create a mono output (which can be done of course), presumably thinking that would fix your issue with the sound in only one ear. So I am guessing the issue is in S1. But was it a multi you created and it all worked as expected and ONLY the bass was playing in one ear? Or was it just a single instrument in one instance of Komplete Kontrol?
But I can confirm that the instrument does work as expected (both ears) in Studio one when sent from Kontakt a stereo output. So now that I know it works fine in general, I would need more detail to recreate what you are trying to do, exactly, if you want to provide. Cheers.
@@tonylukashuk4965 I thank you very much for taking the time.. I had several instruments working off of the same instance of KK, all of them Kontakt instruments, and the bass was the only one that came out mono, even though on a stereo track, so i downloaded a free plugin called (Mutility) which let me pan it in the center... fixed the problem.. Thanks so much
so glad you got it sorted! And if you have subscribed, thank you kindly for your support.
Tony, I subscribed. Do you know why when I use KK or Kontakt as a plugin within S1 I cannot use my "From % To %" feature in Kontakt? (bottom left of GUI) I make the % smaller but still my parameter in the performance view of Kontakt/Komplete Kontrol still goes all the way to 100% even though I inserted a smaller number. It works fine for me when I use Kontakt as a standalone but I feel my setup is wrong somewhere. I use an S88 Mark 2, and Komplete 13 Ultimate. Couldn't find anything in manual. Would be grateful.
Hi Philip, thanks for subscribing! Could you send me a screenshot of what you are talking about in the bottom left of Kontakt? I am unsure what you are describing at this point!
@@tonylukashuk4965 Tony, I could not find a way to send you a screenshot here on YT so I hope you dont mind that I sent them to you on FB. I am trying to learn automation in Kontakt. Many thanks my friend.
Not a big deal to do that but I don't see anything from you there on my FB page. Wrong person maybe? Do you use Google Drive, One Drive or Dropbox or something like that? You could upload them there and then post a link here in the comments.
Also, you might benefit from joining Native Instruments Community Forum. There is a whole area dedicated to Kontakt where people can ask questions or just keep an eye out and pick things up that way. It is a good resource for all things N.I.
One last thing...if you are describing a scaling issue, you might want to try turning off High DPI in your S1 Preferences and see if that helps. I suspect doing that will make the plugin behave/look just like the standalone version. I had to because of scaling issues in fact.
is it possible to do this with massive, or only kontakt instruments?
Absolutely. The trick is to always open everything from within KK. So you can audition sounds and open Massive or Massive X in KK. Then put KK into edit mode (Kontakt GUI) and then you are off to the races like on my video, Stefan.
Cheers.
@@tonylukashuk4965 so, the trick is to open Kontakt first?
Seems like that's the only way to resize Kontrol's window as well.
@@kiillabytez Hi there. To clarify, you need to open Kontakt from within KK in order for light guide to work. Kontakt standalone doesn't support light guide. And for sure opening up Kontakt view is one of my ways to get a lot more viewing real estate for auditioning sounds in Komplete Kontrol. But check out the video on making kontakt window bigger if you aren't afraid to get under the hood a little bit. ruclips.net/video/IiY0vJ7EmQE/видео.html